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We are one week away from the game that never needs extra space. It is

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England against Wales. It is going to be a massive game. Do you want me

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to say something outrageous? One man who is desperate to feature is

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Jonathan Davies. He is back Andy helped the Scarlets to victory over

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the league leaders. That was the one bright spot in a weekend to forget

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for the rest of the Welsh regions. Good evening and welcome to the

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programme puts up that England game as seven days away and it will be

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huge. It is a preview coming up. We will kick off with the RaboDirect

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Pro12. Munster brought a strong side to

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Llanelli. Simon Siebel was at full-back. Jonathan Davies returned

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to the Scarlets in a bid to prove his fitness before the Twickenham

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showdown. Can they get this one rumbling?

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Bodies on the floor. Emyr Phillips still has it. He feeds Gareth

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Davies. Gareth Davies goes for the line himself. Beautiful. He looks to

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have got it down for the first try of the night. Very solid indeed.

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Impressive from the Scarlets. Linking up with John Barclay. That

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is a chance on the counter attack. Munster breakaway with a try. Just

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as we thought Munster strike on the counterattack. Casey Laulala as the

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first receiver. Kristian Phillips just get him into touch. Great work

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and good hands. Simon Siebel looking sharp. -- Simon Siebel. Has he got

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the speed to go all the way? John Barclay is going to get there. A

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remarkable breakaway try from the Scottish flanker.

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Casey Laulala has nobody outside him. He waits for the support.

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Williams is in there. Fantastic. Munster really stringing the passes

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together. They are making up the metres upfield. Could there be an

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overlap? A try scoring chance goes begging. The drive from the

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forwards. Pick and go. One more might do it. The Scarlets getting

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bodies in there. They could have an overlap outright if they use it. In

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at the corner. Or is it? It is one for the TMO. That is a potential

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knock-on there. The ball is lost forwards. We go back for the scrum.

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Duncan Williams comes blindside. A good tackle.

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Duncan Casey found a scarlet boot coming through. It is a yellow for

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Josh Turnbull. Munster scramble away. Duncan Williams with a flick

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up. It could not get much closer than that. Munster trying to force

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their way over. This could be another one for Tim Hayes to have a

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look at. Penalty. Duncan Williams puts it in. Munster again looking

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for the drive. The Scarlets have come away with it. Rhodri Williams

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breaks out. The crowd reacts. Let us have a look. That does not look

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good. Duncan Williams away. Munster have

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not given up this chance. It is spelt forwards. It is back into

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midfield. It has gone forward and the Scarlets have done it. We are

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continuing to claim the table and we are still in the hunt. As long as we

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are still in it, we will keep working hard. The boys were

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fantastic. Very happy. Munster were going for a clean sweep over the

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Welsh regions home and away but they were denied by a determined Scarlets

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side? They great try. How they helped them out, I have no idea.

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Sometimes, you have to look at the decision-making. I thought the

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referee was poor and it did not help either side. The Scarlets were

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fortunate. So many chances went begging in the second half. But you

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impressed with the physicality quit Iraq -- physicality? They certainly

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brought a tough edge. They went forwards. Jonathan Davies went

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forwards for them. They looked good. It was a good scalp to beat Munster.

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Jonathan Davies played just over an hour. Has it done enough to get his

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Welsh shirt back? The defensive role he plays is important. We are

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talking about it being the most difficult position to defend on the

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field. When you have more numbers coming up hard and closing people

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down, he is top class at that. Liam Williams has been fantastic. I think

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he controls it. Either you go up and in all up and out. I think Jonathan

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Davies has put his hand up to get selected. I think England will have

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options. Let us move on to the big game. Jonathan Davies will find out

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if he is picked on Wednesday when the squad is announced.

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The pressure is well and truly on at Twickenham next Sunday for both

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teams. It is win or bust. The cabin chip is up for grabs. Both teams

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have everything to play for. -- championship. England were blown

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away last year at Cardiff. It was getting. But at the same time, you

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learn most from games like that. You take the learning out of it and you

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move on. We have moved on and got better because of it. I am not

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wanted by what happened. It was a day that Wales were outstanding and

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they played really well. They took their chances when they got them .

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It was a dream day for them and was a nightmare for us. It is still the

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game all Welsh fans went to win. Has the animosity settles after the

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British and Irish Lions talk? I have spoken to them a few times. It will

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be good to see them again. You have revealed that a couple of players at

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one Direction fans. The kickers would have the windows down and the

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music blaring. Any friendships have been set aside as both sides set

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their course for championship glory. Wales stuttered in their opener

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against Italy and fell to pieces a week later against Ireland. The game

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is done. A fortnight later, redemption arrived. France travel to

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be Millennium Stadium and were destroyed by a Welsh side with a big

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point to prove. Jamie Roberts, straight through. He is going to

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score. It has been a huge recovery for Wales. I felt the pressure going

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into the game. A lot of the players felt the same . That brings the best

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out of a lot of players. The journey for England has been more

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consistent. They appeared to be heading for victory in Paris. But

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they were undone at the death by some classic French flair.

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They did not panic. A pensive drubbing of Scotland followed before

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heroic rearguard action V E over a strong Ireland. We react to things

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like that and do not dwell on it. You have to take your chances

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against a team like Ireland. The resolve shown in the victory over

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Ireland, you must have taken something from taking them out --

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keeping them out in the last ten minutes? It is great, it drove us

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through to get the win. With all four title contenders winning their

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home games so far, it could be a factor. Add a member the sound

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surrounding the whole stadium. I could hardly hear. I have never

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heard the Twickenham crowd as loud as they were. It was definitely a

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factor in getting back against Ireland and getting the win.

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Sometimes, a little reverse psychology can work. It is a great

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feeling to play away from home and the home crowd are pretty silent.

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You know you are playing well. A lot of your colleagues have been

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diplomatic, saying it is like any other game. You don't believe that,

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do you? Do you want me to say something outrageous? ! All we can

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control is ourselves. Wales have got some big, experienced players and

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they know how to win the games, so we will have to play very well for

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the full 80 minutes to beat them. Out for revenge? I wouldn't say

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revenge, but we are looking to the next game and we want to be better

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than we were against Ireland. England have performed well under

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Stuart Lancaster. They have taken the scalps of New Zealand,

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Australia, France and Ireland. But one significant scalp remains...

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Not only have Lancaster's England never beaten Wales, they have never

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scored a try against them either. I know you have been studying this

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campaign. We mentioned their consistency so far in this

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tournament. What have you found out? Are there any areas Wales can

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exploit? If you look at the attacking patterns, the same old

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England, in many ways. A lot of the attacks start with a drive, they

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like to drive, to suck in defenders. Care they're carrying. Positive

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play. They split the field, forward runners either side. Playing off

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ten, this time it is early Twelvetrees. Again, just two players

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to win the ruck. Options either side, they can play off Twelvetrees,

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Farrell. But we are looking at is the weaknesses. One man in the ruck,

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we are looking at a wind and a fallback winning rucks. The ball

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comes out eventually and we see here again playing off ten, this time

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Farrell using Courtney laws. This is a common theme, options both sides a

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game for Danny care. Twelvetrees popping up, only one player

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supporting the ball and the turnover eventually came for Ireland. It

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shows the way the attack. This from a drive, from a restart. They are

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not played -- not afraid to play drives. Here we see positive play,

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they want to off-load, poor body position from Wilson, who is

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tackled, another Irish turnover. This one, Best, they want to play

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positive, a lot of attackers on their feet and another penalty for

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Ireland. It could be a good day for the likes of Lydiate and wore button

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if they carried their form from the last much into that. -- and

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Warburton. And Warburton was back to his best against France? We saw how

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many tackles he made, if you get Lake tackles, effective ones, with

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Sam going over the ball, and the others, Toby Faletau is becoming

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good at this as well. Those turnovers could beat the difference

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in the game and I can see Wales creating a few turnovers and

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exploiting them. We know that games are won and lost upfront, but if

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England get parity and plenty of possession they have got some

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dangerous runners right now. Danny Care and Mike Brown have been key

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for them. This guy has been on fire. Deceptively strong, left footed. He

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has just got great balance and he is confident, he has waited a long time

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for his opportunity but he is confident, it is a very, very good

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finish. Our kicking game can't be loose. This is a guy that just

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controls the tempo of the game. Taps and goes, taps and goes. Just watch,

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this is a Harlequin strike. Good support by Brown. The hand goes up,

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quality play by Brown. A very, very good finish. I was at Twickenham, a

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great place to play, and even better placed to win, but it is a fast

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track and it will be a very fast game. They have got a lot of

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ball-carriers. They have got believe I'm a pilot out. That could be

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significant. If we can play with the intensity we

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did against France and the defensive structure, I'm not sure, on the back

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of lusty, what they have the confidence. At the defensive line is

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crucial for us. The breakdown will be significant. On form, we have to

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look at England. Kind against Ireland, they got the confidence

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back -- kind against Ireland. How they lost to France, they will be

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kicking themselves. They go in as slight favourites coolly because of

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their consistency, and then the home advantage as well. But if Wales play

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as they did against Ireland, they won't win. They like they did

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against France, I would expect them to win. I think they will win as

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well. We always used to kick to Brown's left, he struggles to kick

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off his right foot. He is dangerous when he runs. Those breakdowns in

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the wide channels, the likes of Cuthbert, North, Jonathan Davies,

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those are the guys who need to contest and they have got the power

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to do that. Actively PRO12 and the Blues were in

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action facing bottom of the table Zebre.

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Revenge was on the Blues group of mind but to claim it they had to do

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something they have failed to do so far in the league this season, win

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away from home. Zebre's team contained five players on loan.

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Leonard completes what he thinks is a try. Did it go forward from

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Filippo Ferrarini? Knock-on. No, it is trite. -- it is a try. And a try

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is awarded to the scrum-half. The Blues can consider themselves a

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little bit unlucky. He does well with the reverse pass to get himself

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out. Leonard opting for the blind-side this time. Luigi Ferraro

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on the outside. A second for Zebre. Can the Blues get something before

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half-time? Lewis Jones to Gareth Davies. Lovely outside break by Tom

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Williams. Just forced out. Lewis Jones... Tom Williams on the

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perpendicular, great angle from the fallback and a deserved score for

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Williams. Blues needed to attack from deep. Five minutes ago. Dan

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Fish on the outside, get around his man. Very intelligent cross kick.

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Will it land for Ellis Jenkins? The vagaries of the bounce take it away

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from Jenkins but it could still be on for the Blues. Copeland at the

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back. The referee saying to use it. It forced upon Davis. He is over the

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line. Obstruction, says the referee, and it won't count.

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Lewis Jones, caught at the base but does well to make it available. Fish

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has got space on the left-hand side. There is the equalising try for the

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Blues! But the referee going to the TMO. I'm not sure what he is looking

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for. No try, obstruction. No try. Obstruction, and the Blues have

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conceded the double to Zebre. A dreadful result for the Blues, but

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it was mired in controversy after that tribe was denied by the TMO.

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Dale McIntosh said he had no idea what he called that decision.

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Bizarre. Give us your thoughts, try or no cry? For me, it is a try. I

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watched it without volume last night and I thought it was given for a

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forward pass. I can freeze-frame any minute of all in play and show you

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clips where players are close to other players, bumping other

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players, and it's fine. That, to me, is an offside position but he does

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not interfere with the play. Ellis Jenkins is being penalised for

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obstructing... For obstructing the defender. Once the TMO is brought

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in, if you watch things in slow motion, back and forth, it is matter

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of fact, but the referee has got to be able to feel that. It is the

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worst decision I have seen by a TMO. Just watch, what is the TMO looking

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at? You can judge on a try scoring decision, on a tackle. Look at the

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players, that is the one allegedly blocked. He does not even put his

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hand up, you doesn't think he is being blocked. The assistant referee

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is an Italian comedy TMO an Italian... I don't have to say any

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more. That is the worst decision I have ever seen on a rugby pitch. It

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is a dreadful decision and if it comes down to putting new assistant

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referees, because of that decision, they have to look at it. If I was a

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player there, losing a game on that, I would be utterly distraught

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and have to have a word with the TMO and referee. But, the bullet is that

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the Blues should not have been in a losing position against the bottom

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side. I don't know if that is right, at the moment. They are not sure of

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their finances, there are a lot of players not knowing whether our next

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year, and also then, are they going to put more money in? Is there more

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money coming in? Unless someone puts more money in, if anyone thinks the

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Welsh regions are going to win the PRO12 all the European cup, they are

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deluded. That is the situation. The national team is doing very, very

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well. Regional rugby is at that position at the moment. Dragons, if

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they went to Zebre, you would be worried. They lost to Edinburgh last

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week. The four regions should be looking at top four with finances

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but unfortunately it is not happening and the longer it goes on,

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the worse it is for the region. I don't care who it is, they have got

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to sort it out. That is the situation the region is at. We can't

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buy overseas players, the youngsters coming through are not good enough

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yet to play in the PRO12 and we cannot have overseas players...

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Looking at the Blues specifically, a miserable season, four wins in the

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PRO12 and conceding more than any other points than any other team.

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There is a meeting tomorrow to review Phil Davies' position. A

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couple of runs of defeats over the years, do take responsibility and

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you get a situation like that, but ultimately there are a lot of things

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going on. There has been a lot of change. Two years ago, three years

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ago, a lot of top players left the Blues, let's not forget that. Phil

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came in and try to put things right. It has not gone as anyone there

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would have wanted it, I'm sure, but Phil is a director of rugby with two

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young coaches route at Premiership level, particularly Paul John, but

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that was, what, five, six weeks ago? That has to be given time.

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Sometimes people change things for the sake of it. Hopefully this group

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will be given a chance to show what they can do as a group. We will have

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to leave it there, thanks for your thoughts. Let's check out the rest

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of the PRO12 fixtures now. Edinburgh faced the Ospreys, we will have

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highlights of that in a moment, but first it is all stuff against the

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Dragons. -- it is also. Bruce Douglas made his first start since

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signing. Tommy Bowe it is written after injury. -- made his return

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after injury. Lovely stuff. Roni piano goes all the way. -- Pienaar

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goes all the way. That was not straight. Tommy Bowe gets away. What

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a return for Tommy Bowe excavation Mark -- for Tommy Bowe! . Pienaar

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again. Here comes Tommy Bowe. Can you believe it? Sensational stuff

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from Tommy Bowe. Here comes the secondary shirt. The

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Dragons are trying to bring it around. Penalty yet again the and a

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nap. That is three in a row. Somebody could be going to the sin

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bin. Evans has gone to the bin for deliberately standing up. It is a

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penalty try. It collapsed straightaway.

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Pienaar had to readjust. Scholes is through. Has he made it? It is

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short. The Dragons are there. Sean Doyle gets his second try. Taken

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quickly. Good defence once again. Lovely hands on the giant prop.

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Peter Ferguson says it is good. They are now only 30 point adrift.

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Wales squad members Dan Biggar and Justin Tipuric started for the

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Ospreys against Edinburgh. The match was moved from Murrayfield because

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of the worm infestation there. Lovely play by Justin Tipuric. Still

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going and still moving. An excellent drive from Edinburgh. They moved the

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point of attack. That was one for the forwards. Dan Biggar. Trying to

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put the ball behind the winner. Sam Beard goes over in the corner.

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Brendon Leonard does not try to force it. In the end, it is as easy

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as that for Grayson Hart to get a second. The replacement trying to

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get an impact on the game. The kick goes through. They go down together.

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It will be one for the TMO to sort out. A try is given. Jeff Hassler.

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Not a happy dressing room and not a happy group. It is disappointing.

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You cannot concede sloppy tries when you are away from home. We had to

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chase the season more now. We will rely on others. It was

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disappointing. We have to regroup and we will probably need to win the

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next five or six games to get a top four finish. The other results of

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the weekend: a great night at the office for your

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boys on Friday. We were outclassed. To travel to Northern Ireland and

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play a side of that quality, they were too strong at front. We have

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Duncan Bell and Bruce Douglas coming out of retirement more or less. That

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is not an excuse, it is a fact. We have to be realistic as to where we

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are. -so pleased the Scarlets beat Munster last night. Without our

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front line players, it is a big ask to go and compete. We played

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Leinster a couple of weeks before. 17,000 fans turned up. The Cardiff

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Blues had the same thing. When the players are away, it is exaggerated

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even more. The girls in between the Welsh regions and they are the

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regions that is. It is something very depressing. That is a lot to do

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in recruitment. Somebody has to sort it out. It is just pathetic. Let us

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finish on a positive. Everyone tries to be dramatic and say it is another

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game. Twickenham is a great place to go and play. You walk through the

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car park now. You can see the cars and picnic baskets and champagne.

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You do not need motivation. It is on. The England game is just seven

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days away. The players are trying to play it down but we are not. Good

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night.

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