Six Nations Special Scrum V Sunday

England and Wales, both played three and won two. The title was still up

for grabs but Wales were caught napping. Danny Care takes it quickly

and scores. Penalty. Puts it behind Halfpenny. Deflection.

With poor execution and errors mounting, Wales pay the ultimate

price. What now for Wales? Good evening. Welcome to the Scrum V

Six Nations Special. It was a dark day for Wales at Twickenham this

afternoon. Now the inquest begins with Jonathan Davies, Robert Jones,

Lyn Jones and Gareth Llewellyn. And, that ladies and gentlemen, may well

be the biggest Welsh cheer we have had all day. Jonathan Davies, where

did it all go wrong? The best side won. I think we hung on the first

half. We should have been further behind. Nothing really went well for

us. Our kicking game wasn't great. We didn't counterattack. You know,

the wingers weren't brought into the game at all. We weren't creative.

The biggest thing for me, Ireland worked us out. England did the same.

There was one example today we highlighted after the game, when

they were wrapping around in the second half, after 60 minute, they

had four defenders waiting for us and two attackers still went and

went through the system. You know, you can't do that any more. What was

happening was they were able to tackle the ball, rather than ball

carriers, one went low, one ripped the ball and from a good position in

the 22, we weren't attacking the ball. You were at Twickenham, Rob,

you were talking about the experience Wales had. You thought

that might give them the edge over England. Where were our big Test

Match players? Warren Gatland said that before the game. I spoke to

him. They were talking about the experience they had and the lack of

experience England had. But England today, they beat us in every

department. They were sharper than us. Probably more physical than us.

I think they were more imaginative than us. They created a lot. They

were prepared to play from deep and they played with pace and momentum.

I think Stuart Lancaster has a side there who he allows the fwree dom to

express themselves. That came through today. I agree with

Jonathan. I think we have been found out twice this season. They had done

their homework and I think, as a result, sides are starting to work

us out and starting to compete in certain areas which we have

dominated in the past. Another disappointing performance on the

road, Gareth? It is. As well as England played, I think a lot of our

problems are self-inflicted. We are making a will the of mistakes. As

Jonathan said, we are losing poorly, making too many mistakes. We fell

off the tackles today. We talk about big match players. At the moment we

are sfrugling to implement a game plan which has served us well and

we've louts. We all the et if we were struggling against the southern

hemisphere sides. Now we are struggling to implement it and we

don't have an answer. More from you later.

Now let's bring you commentary from the big match. Your commentators,

Martyn Williams, Brian Moore and Eddie butt letter.

-- Butler. Still the penalty advantage. Farrell

wrapped up by Sam Warburton. We go back to the first penalty.

Danny Care takes it quickly and scores.

Courtney Lawes. Rhys Webb with the tackle and Lawes didn't lease.

Penalty to Wales. -- didn't release.

Safely landed. Wales are on the board. Jonathan Davies.

Oh, the pass surely would have done it.

No immediate challenge on May. He runs around Jonathan Davies, Jamie

Roberts tracks back with the tackle. Good counter-rucking by Wales. It's

gone scrappily and illegally for England.

And we say it all the time, it is a superb strike by Leigh Halfpenny.

Oh, Wales are in real trouble here. Twelve fwefl twelve comes away with

it. A pass to Jonny May. Leigh Halfpennier to across. May still

goes. Care has the ball. Twelvetrees puts it behind Halfpenny. Burrell.

A penalty, England are offside in front of the knock-on.

Same result as ever. Five penalties for Leigh Halfpenny.

North still going and delivers the pass into space. Danny Care, though,

in trouble. Good covering by the England scrum-half. They have earned

themselves a penalty. . That went towardses are Reece

Priestland, oh and Priestland drops it.

Penalty to England from in a scrummage. England's lead goes and

now Wales will have to score at least twice.

It is difficult to bring George North down. Now Wales do have a

chance leer. Cuthbert - the speed of Cuthbert again. He gets the ball to

Priestland with Faletau in support. He gets the ball to Leigh Halfpenny.

Danny Care back with a tackle. Wales, though, through Jamie

Roberts. He tries to kick and that's not going to work. Owen Farrell has

the simple task of touching down for the 22.

A penalty to England. This could be a yellow card as well. It is. Yellow

card, Gethin Jenkins. 26-18. It's gone horribly wrong as

Billy Twelvetrees comes away with it. England, through Jack Nowell,

and Faletau gets back. He finds Courtney Lawes. Burrell, four caps,

four tries is it? Or is he out of play. Four caps, three tries.

Mike Phillips can't get the ball away cleanly.

The front rowers, they have such an appetite for contact and tackling.

Cuthbert drops it. That will be it. Romain n Poite blows for half time.

It is smiles all round for those wearing white. England have beaten

Wales here at Twickenham by 29-18. So, a Triple Crown for England,

their first since 2003. Let's get reaction from both camps.

This is the Verdict. I mean, the cloud were fantastic

from the off. They gave us the energy prior to the game. We We set

out from the start. We didn't get it all right. Leigh Halfpenny punished

us. Overall we were deserved winners. I thought they put our

kicking game under pressure. When Danny Care got the first try, we

didn't rely. It is a lapse in concentration, from the forwards, as

soon as the penalty is given, we should get back up and get back into

it straight away. We failed and there were a couple of crucial

turnovers. Little things like, that it was, seven, 10, 13 points in the

game and suddenly you are chasing and it makes it difficult in this

tournament we have been inconsistent. At times we play

exceptionally well and at times we haven't been as good and capable as

we have been. I think we have to lack at one or two guys. Players

coming off the bench have done a good job. Maybe they deserve that

opportunity or the reward for good displays. It is important we have a

look at the game and sit down and then we make what we think is a

prudent judgment about the selection for next week.

Really disappointing, another poor performance for Wales away from

home. Sean Holley is here. Sean, for you, what happened? I don't think

Wales looked like winning either of their away games. If you look at the

general statistics. It was a 50/50 game in territory and possession but

England carved out two crucial tries. The metres game is where

England won. Their back three carried twice as far as ours but

after the 50% of potential Wales had, they kicked it 30 times, 60%.

It is not necessarily how much but how accurately. The kicks were

aimless, too far. They often found the England back three who were

very, very dangerous. They were cute. Watch again, the kick is too

far, it gets to Jonny May. And Launchbury subtle but enough to

distract Richard Hibbard from tackling Jack Nowell. England

surprised Wales from kourntd attacking from deep in their own 22.

They picked and wented up the middle, scuppering Wales' wide

defence and in Courtney Lawes, in the game in his own 22. Ben Morgan

in for Vunipola. Looked dangerous from deep. When you do that it

brings the Wales' win wingers up. Owen Farrell knows this and sees

Cuthbert is out of position. This times he goes over his head and pins

them back further in their territory. When they were deep in

their half they couldn't get out. England pushed them back as close as

their own line. Time and time again they were caught. England were on

their game. Basic skills let England down. 24 missed tackles. Poor

presentation was poor from Wales. You see Hibbard and Owen Wilson. All

day long they presented long and clean, England, so Danny Care could

have an armchair ride. The basic kicking tactics was there. This was

a good tactic from Jonathan Davies. He saw the space but the execution

was really, really poor. Contrast again the defendant skanl touch of

Billy Twelvetrees putting it on his foot -- the defendant skills. There

was some coaching decisions on the day. Should Reece prees land have

been on as long as he did? And did Paul Jones come on a bit late? . In

a release from last year's scrummage, England won the day.

Gethin Jenkins disappointed with a yellow card. Paul James, when he

came on, it was a different story but was it too little, too late? We

make these coaching decisions on the field. Were they do late, what did

you make of the substitutions? Well, damned if we do and damned if we

don't. The thing with Wales, we were still in the game. We were still

there and you know as a coach you have to give faith to your players.

You have made your selection, and, you know, it is a tough call.

Certainly Dan Biggar came on and steadied the step. The error count

and skill levels were poor throughout. A lot of players for

Wales were playing very well. Some didn't play well at all. When you

take that into consideration, it is quite a simple game, rugby. If you

make mistakes, time and time again, you won't win matches. Jonathan in

the studio, you called T you said the half back parter inship wasn't

working. And it was said that's why the coaches are paid big bucks. It

wasn't working. We saw the stats. You know, there was a lot of

mistakes during the match. I think we all know, Reece Priestland is a

confidence player. He wasn't confident. Sometimes he seems as if

the world is on your shoulders. You don't want that from a halfback. He

is the one dictating the game for you. They were far more creative

than us. It was difficult. They worked our system out to defind T

they put pressure on it. Tackles in. They played with pace. Their second

rows were brill yanted but they hit midfield a lot. Danny Care and Owen

Farrell and Mike dictated which way they were going. They were asking

questions from us all the time. It was difficult to work out what

exactly we were trying to do. Gareth, to be fair, we were talking

about Reece Priestland and were those kicks bad execution or is it

what we are trying to do? For so long we have kicked the ball long

for territory. We have two big guys in the centre, we have two of the

biggest wingers in world rugby, we never kick for pressure and for the

guys to compete. We saw nierld, Rob Kearney catching the ball, putting

it up in the air and compete competing Leigh Halfpenny for the

ball. It puts pressure on us. If we recover, we have to get 14 boys back

behind the ball to do something with it. As much as it is easy to point

the fingers at players and some didn't play well but we have to

question our tactics. The chase wasn't good then. If you are chasing

distance, the chase has to be good. If you are kicking, the form

fullback, and if you are going to kick long, the chase has to be spot

on. The chase is reasonable. You are allowing Mike Brown, 20 or 30

meeters to run back. Is he has it make up that ground and then put the

kick in. England kicked Wales and you thought - here we g two pairs of

hand over the field. I this I think it was north.

There was a change of tactics. Then, I thought - here we g a fresh

impetus, a different tactic. Another thing we didn't do well. As Gareth

said with the Irish fullback is take the ball right up to the line, to

the defence. Get everybody up and drag your chasers right through that

to get in the air and challenge. Although we have our back line, I

think everyone is scared of playing against them. They

think everyone is scared of playing brilliant and the wingers are

dangerous. We need them to have ball in hand. We don't

dangerous. We need them to have ball If you look at the selection issues,

maybe later, we are not going to go outside of the squad. Whatever

people think, we haven't got the strength and depth in Wales in the

countryside. With the players we have, we have time before the next

World Cup. You look at the New Zealand centre. He was told three

years ago - listen, mate, if you don't work on your handling and

distribution and kicking skills you won't be playing for the All Blacks,

look at him now, he is a brilliant distributor. He has a hand in

kicking the ball. Why don't our centres work on that. There should

be more dummy running and kicking options and put the ball through the

hands because Jamie attracts so many people. Just off loading and bring

the wingers in. The owners comes back in the regions. I'm in chanch

one of. It is the skill development we all need to have a responsibility

for. The direction comes from Warren as head of our national side to give

us a little bit more direction as well, so we can keep out. We have a

day-to-day touch with all the players. Today's performance is a

reflection on our regions as well and all community clubs right

throughout Wales. Can I just say on what Sean was saying there, he

mentioned the 60% kicking statistic. You know what, when Munster was at

their pomp, they kicked away 60% of their possession and they were the

best team in Europe. The statistic, as Sean rightly said, is not bad, it

is how accurate you are. New Zealand kick more than anyone else. We don't

play the way we play because of the limb takeses of the players. It

comes back to the limb takeses of the players. It

there is more than the Welsh group than they are showing at the moment.

We can play more expansive rugby. But we are playing the way we are

because that's how we are being asked to play. We need to look at

the strengths of the players and adopt a game plan to allow them to

come through. We are not getting the best of Cuthbert and George North.

Jamie Robert, he is one-dimensional when he does a job. There is a

couple of things that Sean picked up on and you were talking about

accuracy. I'm thinking back to the last couple of seasons in the World

Cup in 2001 #1, everything was coming off. In the Grand Slam

following that and also last year, can you remember a time where Wales

were this sloppy in the Six Nations Championship? No. I think the Lions

probably has a part to play on T we have come back and looked tired and

jaded. We talk about fitness levels. Normally the last 10 or 15 minutes

is very important to Warren Gatland. He believes his side are fitter than

other teams and we'll come through. I don't think that was the case. Do

you think some players were struggling fitness-wise? Looking on

the park. Do you buy that? Or is it a lame excuse It is a fast track.

Twickenham is very fast. It is the best international surface in

northern hemisphere. It is brilliant. It is going to tire youed

out. But, again, the way we played, if you are on the front foot and

everyone is coming around the corner and steaming over people, then it is

easier and it is easier to execute your skills. When waiting for you

and put the pressure in the tackle area and you are not going over the

advantage line then it is harder to execute it. We have to vary it and

ask questions of the defence. That's what they have to do and change the

gym differently. Again going back to what they have to do and change the

Reece, he is there to do a job. -- Rees. The play is maybe more in the

face and he is kinds of more adventurous than Dan Biggar. If that

is he at case and you want to stick with that stand-off, give James Hook

a go to see how he goes. If you want a more controlling influence and a

bit of arrogance, you give Dan Biggar a G these are the decisions

they have to make now. I think Dan Biggar Fitzwarren Gatland's

became-plan more so than Rees Priestland at the moment. It will be

interesting to see how plays fullback -- than Rhys.

One big plus for me was Leigh Halfpenny's goal kicking, it waented

just fantastic. I thought he struggled with those distances in

the Australian tour in the summer with the Lions. Today he had four

kicks from ten yards to half way. He was nailing them with distance. I

would imagine he has been working on them. That was a lot to do with the

surface. As I said, Twickenham, it is a brilliant place to play rugby

and a brilliant surface to kick. In Australia, it was slightly, you

know, wet underfoot and he didn't get the distance. Here is the thing

about the game plan. How many sometimes have we talked about the

game plan when we have lost and it has come to nothing because we have

won the Championship or the Grand Slam. Now we are left empty handed

and now people will say Wales are too one-dimensional, what happens

next? Very much so. You know, although the Six Nations is probably

the best-supported tournament in the world bes, it is still second rate

it the Try Nations and we are well down the pecking order. Things are

not going to plan for us and where we need to be. You looking for small

improvements all the time. It is not coming through, those small

improvements. You don't mind losing a game as long as you see certain

aspects getting better. The whole game plan replies on quick ruck ball

and going forward and when it all kicked off in 2008 obviously there

was a whole bunch of Ospreys went up there to Wales and this was the game

plan and we don't step out of it. This is what we do, we adhere to it.

Don't step out of plan, get work and workern harder arounds the corner,

etc. They found it enjoyable but then obviously restructured as well.

What do you think? And very successful Absolutely. Players don't

turn bad overnight. They don't turn into a bad side. Maybe they are

tired but they have been worked out and they have to, you know, if

people are working us out we have to think about it. You have South

Africa... We have done it before and won Championships, so we keep on

doing it but if you don't keep evolving you will get worked out.

Every time you play you have weaknesses in your game. You need to

find out what they are. It takes a brave man and coach to work at and

and say - where are we weak? Where are teams looking at us where they

will exploit us the next game? A quick word to Rob, if I can, about

England. Do you think in many ways, Wales, and the rest of the Six

Nations have underestimated what has been happening at Twickenham.

Something is changing under Stuart Lancaster? Last year I think there

were signs of improvement, they were getting better and over the last 12

months they've improved enormously. Luther Burrell is a good player in

midfield. They have players to come back. They have more depth. They

have a lot more rugby players than us and more depth. What is

impressive with England they beat Ireland under pressure on the set

piece. We scrummaged strongly but not smartly. They were winning

better. And let's face it, in the autumn

they were 15 minutes away from beating the All Blacks. Had it not

been for a little bit of brilliance they might have beaten them? Since

last year's defeat from Wales, they have been consistent, in their tempo

and in the way they have played. People will find it difficult,

teams, to play against them because they are difficult. They don't have

the struck true we play to. They hit midfield and when they hit midfield,

then the ball plays in. Have a look at which way to go. The fullback

stand-off comes in and says - look, you have a prop in there and they

attack. Also, they have got, very, very athletic second-rowers. Those

two today were phenomenal. You rated them. The second row is withdrew win

games and number 10 decides what the score is going to be as Gareth

rightly says, you know. I think the selection policy at England has been

consistent. They haven't suffered too much from injuries and likewise

they have got two excellent second rows. And at least they have found

Courtney Lawes and given him a bit of time. Thank you very much. #we8

#' talk about Wales he v Scotland later. Wales' under-20s and Wales

Women both in action this weekend. #12k3w4r in the second half, a

breakaway from Kibirigy knocked more wind out of Wales' sails. There were

breakaway from Kibirigy knocked more no let-up as the home side added

four more tries. Gus Jones led the scoring charts with four of

England's 10 on what was a miserable evening for Wales.

Despite that impressive victory, the Championship is still out of

England's hands and it could be a Grand Slam for France having so far

won all of their four games: Wales Women were still seeking their

first win of the Six Nations campaign, but despite initially

enjoying the greater possession, England eventually cut loose to

torment Wales with their lethal finishing, Emily Scarratt scuttling

over for the first of two tries in the 23rd minute.

Five tries in total wane Scarratt scoring 20 points for England, it

was the fourth defeat in four games for Wales. So, England keep the

pressure on France, the favourite and it is between Scotland and Wales

for the Wooden Spoon. Well, it has been a pretty miserable

weekend. Back to the RBS Six Nations. Ireland and France. Both in

with a chance of winning the title, along with England, after wins in

Dublin and Edinburgh. Sexton, O'Driscoll, Sexton on the

loose. Sturdy Sexton. The Leinster parter inship works. O'Driscoll and

Sexton try. -- partnership. Luke McLean, a

chance here. He was smashed in the tackle by

Andrew truly trim. Oh, Subtle for the line. Oh, one try for Ireland

and now one for Italy. Some interference from the medics.

Not quite. Andrew Trimble. Yes, Ireland's second try. O'Driscoll

again. A great off-load. Rob Kearney. To Johnny Sexton. Oh, a

sweet try. MacFadden against the prop.

MacFadden scores. Scotland are making a little bit of

ground. A lovely little opener. He goes for the corner. Wonderful

hands, a wonderful pass. A glorious try for Tommy Seemore.

Scotland in now with a chance with the ball. The men out wide.

Interception and it maybe a try for Yoann Huget. He is galloping down

the pitch. He is in. Yoann Huget will go the length of the park to

score. A try for France.

The replacement scrum-half looks again. Carried on now. Turnover

ball. A penalty to France. So Ireland, England and France all

locked on significance points. Ireland have the edge because of

points. England beat Italy and Ireland loose, then stew the a

Lancaster's men will take the title. But for you, Gareth,ing given the

mazing atmosphere yesterday, it is for Ireland's to lose.

I cannot see how France can win it. If they do, I'm giving up, I said.

But, they are an enigma. You don't know what they are going to do but

they are awful. They shouldn't be in with a sniff of winning the

Championship but they are. What a story. What an incredible tale, if

Brian O'Driscoll wins it in his final game. They are capable. They

have been the best side overall. I think. As good as England R as we

said, France are poor. They were poor against Wales. They were worse

yesterday. I think Philippe Saint-Andre has real problems. Why

they persevere with some of the players, I don't noe. They are not

playing with French flair. They are playing a fairly organised. Well it

is suppose #d to be structured but I can't see a the pa earn. I think

Ireland will go there. They have everything to go for now and for

Brian O'Driscoll obviously a great swansong. And what did you make of

that emotional farewell yesterday in Dublin? Oh, he is just, you know, an

absolute legend. Dublin? Oh, he is just, you know, an

just incredible. You know, he's done it all. You know, he is great with

the ball. He is great without it. You know, he causes a lot of

turnovers. It takes it in. You know, he kicks if you want to. He is a

kicking option.er he has adapted his ga. When he started he was sleight.

He scored a hat-trick against France. As it evolved, he put weight

on. He coped. He had an injury for the Lions and went back. And the

day, just before the last Test for the Lions last year I had to

interview him because he had been dropped. The measure of the man, he

got up and spoke eloquently. He was bitterly disappointed but was very

supportive. He is a top, top bloke. For me, I agree with Rob, Ireland

have been the best side but England have pushed them but for me it would

be, you know, great if I could see Brian O'Driscoll going out as the

champion. Absolutely. And Lyn, there aren't many sportsmen, whichever

sport you look at, in the world, where you are widely acknowledged to

be the best in your field. That's what Brian O'Driscoll is. You ask

any rugby follower, they have a lot of praise for him? You can't

disagree with any of that. As a real rugby enthusiast. I enjoyed his play

over the years much it is inventive. Good thinking from him on every

aspect. He is up there with Gareth Edwards as the best player either it

play in the Six Nations or the Five Nations as it was before, without

doubt. He is fantastic. Well-said. So, for the first time since 2010,

Wales are involved in a dead rubber next Saturday against Scotland. Sean

holly, sell it to us. next Saturday against Scotland. Sean

-- Sean Holley Warren Gatland will not want it take his team on a

summer tour on the back of a loss. If you look at it, it is not a happy

hunting ground for the Scots. Will Scott Johnson factdor? Under

pressure. Only won five of 15 in charge. There is a lot of pressure

on Scott Johnson but they know how to break down. Look out for strong

centres looking to block the Welsh midfield and bring in their wing

runners. This is something they will look to do. I like this boy Hogg

when he comes N you find him coming in at 10 channel. Will he look to

put the ball in the air and behind Wales and exploit the blitz. If they

go toe-to-toe with this fellow, which was poor then this guy has the

boot. He can do it. The wingers come in, he is inventive and sharp. As

you see here, very creative. Giving a nice pass for one of the two

tries. They are still suspect in their defensive system. Some are

drifting, some shooting out of the line, Sean Lamont. Jumping out of

the line against Italy. Noor terms of numbers in organisation on drift.

Wales score on average, three tries a game against Scotland. Does Warren

Gatland change his team? Is this the time to bring a few new faces in? It

is easy on the back of a performance to point of the finger at players

and call for change. History has gone, we can't win the Championship,

so there is an opportunity to look at other players. I think we have to

realise that we will not solve some of the problems by team selection.

We have to change what we are doing. And, we have talked about

We have to change what we are doing. James, Dan Biggar, there are

We have to change what we are doing. who will come into the equation.

We have to change what we are doing. Maybe they will bring a new energy

into the team but we've still got to look at the way we are playing the

game if we are really going to improve and compete in the World Cup

and in the southern hems spheres. Rob, what will you do next Saturday?

I think he will make some changes. Leigh Halfpenny is out. I think he

will slot Liam Williams into that fullback position. I just hope as

Gareth said, we tinker with the way we play. We have to be more

creative. Our kicking game has to improve enormously, I think, in

order that we can compete te. I think there will be a couple of

changes. Interesting who he will pick at nine. I'm assuming Rhys Webb

will be out. It is the measure of success that Warren Gatland and we

have enjoyed and he has had over the last couple of years that it is the

first time in four years, where we are going into a final Saturday

where there is no hope of winning the title. Yeah, and on the back of

poor form against Ireland and I thought enlads play exceptionally

well today. It wasn't our day and we were totally outplayed. It is a

difficult call. I don't think he will make wholesale changes, because

it is very difficult in a short turn around. It is a Sunday, we are

playing a Saturday. A short turn around, to get people gelling

together. If he makes changes, it will be people from within a squad

already. There is no-one from the outside. I don't think he will make

many, many changes. As Gareth said, whether they change tactically a

little bit but they will know the way that Wales play and Scotland are

little bit but they will know the solid. They are solid at the scrum.

They are solid at the line you. Defensively they are good and new

they are getting a bit more confidence. How they lost yesterday,

I still don't know, you know. It was a dreaded mis-pass again when they

had that three-man overlap and the Frenchman intercepted. That's how

they lost. They are they will be coming very confident down to

Cardiff because they played well. Team selection will be interesting.

And team selection doesn't help changing game plans. It is about

recovery and building confidence and hoping that you can play a little

bit better next week. I'd like to think that there is a

scrum-half down at the Scarlets who will be given an opportunity to show

what he can do. They have good scrum-halves down there. It'll be

nice to see what they can offer. Wales need an attacking game off

nine. It is an international match. You

have. It is about winning. Scott Johnson said they want to win

pretty. If I was Scott Johnson I would try to win first. Yes. Hang

on, calm down a bit. Lets anticipate win first and win pretty afterwards.

O they haven't got creative halfbacks. They have up and down

players in midfield. A little bit of talent. If we win the kicking game

next week, I don't think Scotland will score from distance. To get it

back on track they have to work on it. Let's get the coaches' view.

What do you do? Tinker with selection? Some selections are

enforcedual esure Charteris will come back and Liam Williams will

start. Leigh is a big loss for our kicking game. So somewhere along the

line there has to be a good kicker selected somewhere in there. You

know, am the improvements in the game, I thought our blitz defence

was up and stop. We he had into the confidence to follow right through

on what we are trying to do. It was good against France but today we

were but today we were stopping as if we were scared of what was in

front of us. England are a very, very good side. We didn't play well

and we lost by 11 where seven was a disaster in the fourth minute. We

are not a million miles away. At the end of the day I think our skill

levels were off today. If you pick better players who don't make as

many errors, you play better. I think the props will be an

interesting selection. Will he give the youngsters an opportunity? But

then again, you don't want to weaken the platform. Will he pick Tipuric

and Warburton and maybe bring the two wings into the game a bit more

by carrying the ball. Those are the questions. Fullback, you know, Liam,

I know he picks at 10 He was alluding to change in his post-match

discussion. You know, it will be interest. You can't make too many

changes. He needs to win, unless he feels that he is in a strong enough

position to be able to... It is fine us picking a stand-off who is going

to tinker with the props and they'll figure a bit because the stand-off

will be uneffective. Join me in thanking our guests.

We were hoping that Wales would be going for a third consecutive Six

Nations title but they had a very bad day at the office. From all of

us here, nos da.