22/09/2013 Scrum V Sunday

After two weeks on the road, the Ospreys celebrate their homecoming.

But the Blues have their fortress stormed. We have been into the layer

of the Dragons to find out how they masterminded their win over the

Scarlet. Was that deserved? Were we the better side? To write about we

were. In history is made for the wrong reasons. It was the biggest

defeat in the history of the sport. Welcome to Scrum V. Plenty of

talking points as usual. Kingsley Jones and Jonathan Davies in the

studio tonight. We start with the action from last night's game at the

liberty Stadium. Alan Lyn Jones is making his first

start for the Ospreys is leading the Lions to victory down under. He was

one of four Lions in a formidable looking front five. Mickey Walker

lined up against his old side as part of an international back three,

along with Tim Visser and Greg Tonks. Controlling the ball and

getting man behind the ball. Turning his back to the enemy. It is there.

It is the first score. Morgan Allen back there again serving defensive

duties. Smacked Tom Smith somewhere on the face and Smith is still down.

It does not look good again. It looked like a swinging arm there.

The short arm tackle probably caused more pain than the smack. Tom Smith

is being taken off. Bishop into midfield. This is better now. The

Ospreys are on the front foot. What my past that should do it. Walker,

driving over. -- one more path should do it.

Ian Evans climbed high. Hey Bart dives in at the corner. -- Hibbard

dives synaptic corner. That is the man from Georgia.

Edinburgh have to tie in some Ospreys players. If they do not,

they are just running against more numbers. Tim Visser! There he goes,

celebrating 50 tries in his Celtic league career.

It has been threatening to boil over for quite some time. These are rugby

teams, aren't they? Was that a dangerous tackle? I do not think

that is at all. I think that is fine. The yellow card for Justin

Tipuric. I know everyone will have their own opinions. They are echoed

by the crowd. And Lyn Jones, ball tucked under his right arm. -- Alan

Jones. Just make sure you do not die with the ball. Hibbard! A second try

for the hooker. Looking to maintain the tempo now, knowing that they

have that 20 point cushion. A second for Eli Walker. The Ospreys

are running away with this one. Matthew Morgan. There he is. Go all

the way here. What have we got? There he goes. Really gets caught?

-- will he get caught? That sealed it in style for the Ospreys. We had

two tough games this year. We got six points out of it. It really does

start. Richard Hibbard was the double tried hero. Could Ospreys

fans have asked for more? ) the start, they showed intent. The way

they -- right from the start, they showed intent. They dominated every

facet of play. They scored some lovely tries as well. Just a very,

very powerful, dominant performance. Of course, lovely tries by Walker,

and then that brilliant strike at the ends by Matthew Morgan. --

brilliant try at the end. Sometimes you can get too much ball. I think

their pack is so powerful, right, that you have to show a little bit

more creativity in midfield, I think, and bring people like Beck

and Walker into the game a little more. They need to expand their

game. At the moment, a couple of games into the season, their pack is

absolutely immense and they will go far and be strong. They just need to

act creativity behind it. The Lions were back en masse yesterday. That

can sometimes have a disruptive influence on the players. To look

around that's changing room, seeing Alan Lyn Jones back in the team,

that must have been a massive boost. -- Alan Lyn Jones. They have taken

it onto the field. Tibaldi brings the Canadian and that

is a good finish for him. They know what they are going to do. Edinburgh

try to get the drive going. Take away the lifter, as they should. A

couple of minutes later, they are on the attack again, Edinburgh, still

early in the game. Kennedy is looking to bring in this or into the

game. A key player. -- Tim Visser. It is the reaction from Tim Visser.

He is not happy at all with Kennedy. The likes of Tim Visser,

these guys are big players. Great tactic. Highball. Fallback. Make the

error. A lot of this credit goes down to the scrum. Denton was taken

out of the game early. Guys like him, if they cannot carry, they

sometimes go missing. Last year, another big player, Nikki Walker, he

passes to Denton, who is more concerned about the defence than the

ball. Tim Visser is trying to tidy up. The attitude of the Ospreys in

the first ten minutes is really what's sets the tone of the game.

They are all clued in and aggressive. They all play with a big

intensity. You have been singing his praises, but has -- but he made a

brilliant try. He steps up and then blows past the fullback. Look at

him. Just forget about it. Walker comes across. They crashed on the

ground. You have got to give that a try. That was amazing. But the

afterburners on. A brilliant try. Lightning beat, is that reminiscent

of someone you know? -- lightning speed. The grounding might not have

been entirely clean but it made no difference on the outcome of the

game. When you have 30 points, it is fine. Fantastic. Your team were up

against Edinburgh last week, a narrow defeat. You put things right

before the Derby. We has spent a week inside the layer

of the Dragons. After defeats against Edinburgh, the

Dragons return to base. We're trying to get it out of our system, really.

Let's get started, guys. Arms up. A triple extension every time. Try and

miss each other. Lyn Jones has returned to Wales after a year of

coaching London Welsh. You have doubts as a coach. You take your

thinking up. The challenge is to set about to make people better. Did we

achieve what we set out to achieve? How was the spacing on the centre?

There was never any change in the position. Everyone needs to realise

we have got to get out that extra bit. After the morning session, it

is time for lunch. Today it is feel-good Monday, where the players

are treated to comfort food. Two sausages of stop -- two sausages.

Former Blues scrum half Richie Rees has joined the team recently. Shane

about the result on Friday night. We had a good start to the season. --

shame about the result. It is time to go over the defeat against

Edinburgh. Hour to first point man sets where we will stand. We always

have to stand behind them. We have to remember that at all times.

Another good faith is -- another new face is Kingsley Jones. Democracy

how it is going. -- see how it is going. I think the players felt like

sitting ducks at times. It is new for everyone.

The attention now turns to the starlets. The Dragons are the

underdogs and have not beaten them in six years. -- the Scarlet. It is

going to be a scrum festival. Wait for us to make a mistake or wait for

a lease kick and then just counter the attack from that. -- a loose

kick. We have to make sure we are as good as we can be and keep the game

nice and clean and tidy. Building understanding, building habits and

being very, very effective in defence. We're got to be found. --

we have got to put it right. We cannot paint over the cracks, guys.

We have to expose them, gouge them out and fill them improperly.

Captain Andrew Coombs goes over the line out. Last-minute line outs, oh,

my God. We need players that can make their own decisions on the

field. They need to expand their thought process. Catch it, Tom!

Darren Edwards now has more time to focus purely on the rugby. I am a

coach, a head coach, and the most important thing to me is dealing

with the organizational issues. My time is out on the field and

preparing the team. It is a good possibility that you will play

better than your opposite number in local Derby is. Does putting it out

there, guys. It is that they heavy build-up, but that is what happens

in these games. -- just putting it out there. It is time to brave the

elements. Friday 's game is looming and every

session counts. Can you create time and space for other people? We have

a lot of work to do and a lot of improvements to do. We need that

work tomorrow when we are fresher. Nice haircut. After the lane, the

Dragons start analysing the Scarlets. What do we know about the

work of the coach? How can we avoid this tackle? Go low. Carrying the

ball high makes you an easy target. After the play has been addressed,

it is back to the brain trust. Match day. After a week of

meticulous preparation, it is down to the players.

The Dragons are in command at the moment. Options are open the Jason

Tovey. I do not know if Tom Prydie got it down or not. It was a very

close call. It is all about the feet. We will wait and see.

A lovely ball over the top two Phil Price. Phil Price has got there. The

forward still work at it and Phil Price gets the Dragons the reward

for all the pressure. Almost up to the try line. They are

within striking distance. It is still on. Daniel Evans arrives and

the former Scarlett gets a try. They could be an overlap out wide.

It has worked out for the Scarlets. Dan Evans. Another great corner

cover tackle by Rob McCusker. He Scarlett get up to halfway. They

are just a pupil of meeting shocked -- metres short. -- they are just a

couple of metres short. So close for the Scarlets.

This is the best period for the Scarlets. He has done well. Scott

Williams dances his way through and all that pressure from the Scarlett

is finally is turning into points. Their first try of the evening. Boy

did they need it! That is four from four five Rhys

Priestland. -- from Rhys Priestland. Tries to go all the way himself. He

slept. It might still be on. Desperate defence from the Dragons.

Phil John gets within three metres. The scrum-half has a look again. The

Dragons have held their ground and managed to clear the decks. How

close was that? It is on. Good play again by the Dragons.

Penalty. He Scarlett have their hands on it. That is superb defence

by the Dragons. Tom Prydie struck it well. That is

great. That could just be a matchwinner.

Very well taken by Liam Williams. Rhys Priestland gets on the outside.

He could not get the ball in. Plenty for Danny Wilson, nearest the

camera, and Simon Easterby and Mark Jones to be discussing.

Here we go again. The Scarlett drive again. It is motoring towards the

try line. It was last at a crucial time. The Dragons are away. Toby

Faletau puts the ball of the pitch. Tremendous celebrations at Rodney

Parade because for the first time in 11 games, for the first time in six

years, the Dragons have beaten the Scarlets.

Boys. Just a minute. As I say, make sure we celebrate our victories. Was

that hard fought and deserved? Will we be better side? To write we were.

It is important. It is important to be accurate and to be honest. We

were technically good. Our breakdown was superb today. Our understanding

and taming and tackling technique was outstanding. It is about belief

now. It is about confidence and turning up and knowing you are going

to win but being respectful to the opposition. Can you handle the next

step? Can you handle it better Mac we still have things to work on.

They are not habits at the moment. The harder you work, the luckier you

get. S maintained that was up cheers for the Dragons exhibition Mac --

for the Dragons! Inspiring. Did you allow yourself a celebration? I did

have a beer. The players deserved it. The attitude they showed was

exceptional. Six months ago, they would not have won those sorts of

games. Full credit to them. It was a fantastic result. It was great to

have the access behind the scenes as well. What were you most pleased

with and what do you need to work on? Our breakdown work was pleasing.

We did not lose the ball in contact too often if at all. The defensive

shape was still there. We have developed our attacking game in the

last few weeks. We felt the wings were biting in a little bit. We had

some off-loads there. Jordan Williams is a danger that young

player but we tested him a little on the wing. I thought our kicking game

was excellent on occasion. We knew Jordan and Williams would punish

us. We wanted to have that line and occasionally they damaged as with

that. A little bit tired announced defence and there are loads of

things we can put right. The confidence they showed in the first

half, the ball out of the tackle created a lot of space. Some lovely

tries. I thought Richie Rees played exceptionally well. I do not way he

was taken off. He asked me at the end of the game. That was one thing.

He had a lot of experience and he was very calm. A simple game plan

and they played with more confidence this year. I thought the Scarlett

kicked badly was up they will actual and did not know when to pass and

went to kick. Jordan Williams was great and then he targeted the

centre. Then you have the international is there. If he

straightens up and takes Toby Faletau out, then it is two against

one. But it is a poor kick and they are back down in their own half. I

felt in the second half, they played a territorial game a little bit

better. The key thing for me was the scrum. If Italy became an issue at

the end. The Dragons did not make many mistakes. Unfortunately,

Llanelli did not have enough in the opposition 22. Confidence is the big

thing. The Scarlets did not play with the same confidence. Talking

about the scrum factor, we were lucky to have possibly be best filly

in the world. There were 14 times advantage was played in the game and

we only came back for four of those. He contributed massively to

that game. We will come back to the scrums at the end. If you have any

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premiership now. Another east to the West battle.

Pontypridd were hoping to secure another victory this week. They kept

their nerve despite two yellow cards. They have had a clean sweep

so far this season. Cardiff were hoping their second

away game would be more successful. Aberavon faced tough opposition.

Carmarthen had another great trick today. -- Picadilly. -- Picadilly.

Land every the worthy deserved winners.

The blackened numbers were at home yesterday. They were hoping to carry

on their success. -- the Black and Ambers. The home side were leading

against Llanelli at half-time. But it was a case of second-half blues

for the home side. The continued have draft was rewarded again as Dan

Thomas scored this try in the corner. Both sides were littered

with handling errors throughout the match. Neither capitalised and the

good trading conditions. A penalty try was awarded to Newport.

Man of the match Stephanie Evans sealed the victory right at the end

of the game. So the victory over Newport when they have -- means they

have won two out of three games. They put the bit of pressure on

themselves and felt they had to do something today. Earlier today, it

was Derby day. The home side were down to 13 men after the yellow

card. Back twofold strength, Liam Davies but ever the try line. --

back to full strength. A try here from Dan Biggar. A late surge was

not enough, and Swansea picked them.

Friday night because my game between Zebre and the Blues. Let's go to

Arms Park. The visitors arrived at the Arms Park having never won a

game in their professional history, but with a sense of optimism. Leigh

Halfpenny was one of 11 internationals on the Blues side.

Lewis Jones using cooked on the narrow side. Quick back for Lewis

Jones again. a pearl of a past to Hewitt. -- pearl of a past. No

prizes for guessing what will come here. On comes the drive. That is

Bergamasco in the pilot seat. Still going, Zebre. That is good enough,

says the referee. Zebre are really giving it a go here in the second

half. You cannot get better than that from

the fly half, and Zebre have taken the lead at the Arms Park. Luciano

Orquera with a chipper meet picked up by the hooker. A score for Zebre.

Great driving forward play. The fullback, inside to the

replacement. He is over. It is a third try for Zebre! And they extend

their lead. Do or die now for the Blues. Lloyd Williams, and it is all

a little bit slow. Surely offside. Will he get a yellow card? It is

Redolfini who is going to go to the bin. The referee is in a bit of

bother here, because Zebre have still got 15 on the field. Now it is

sorted. Last chance saloon for the Blues. Brilliant chainsaw tackled by

Leonard. It is a penalty. That is it for Zebre! Tonight we did not get

the rewards for the possession because we did not control things as

well as he should have. You have got to give credit to Zebre for the way

they played. Congratulations to them for getting this result. Total

disaster for the Blues. Here is a look at the other results from the

weekend. The best start to a season for 11

years of four Treviso. The Dragons are in the top four. Blues are in

seventh. Scarlets are in ninth. Total disaster for the Blues. They

had 11 internationals on their site and they lost at home to a team that

has not won a single game until then. How did that happen? Disaster

for the Blues. I think they dominated possession and dominated

territory, but when they got into good positions, there were mistakes,

handling errors. They had a soft turnover in crucial areas, which

takes momentum off of you, and defence has been soft. They lose

concentration. They fought well against Glasgow, and then all of the

setting, they switched off and they lost the match. You've got to focus

and concentrate. You've got to be a aggressive defensively and you have

got to work together. At the moment, I do not think that their

application and attitude is good enough to do it for all 18 minutes

of the game and that is why they are losing. If you are the all Blacks

and you switch off, you know you are going to lose. Cardiff are a young

side and they've got to do the best they can. They have got to win

everything. The first try, how easy was that? You are not playing

against a South African pack. There is a naivety at the moment in the

whole squad, a nativity of thinking they will win matches. -- naivety.

They have got to cut out the mistakes and grind wins out. They

will get the results. Their competence could take a further

knock. They are a way to the defending champions, Leinster. What

hope do fans of the Blues possibly have? That is the fixture you will

want, really. There will be a lot of pressure on them next week. There is

a lot to gain by putting in the right performance. On the back of

the challenge, I am sure that everybody will want to see that

game. The selection for that game, I would have gone with the best Blues

team. I am not in the Blues camp. You feel the want to give the

younger guys a go. I think it would have been a big statement to make.

Matthew Rhys, for example, get him in the changing room. Leinster, next

week, well, they have got the opportunity to put their hands up

and put it right. Things cannot get too much worse, and talking about

the worst kind of record, what is it like to be beaten by nearly 200

points? That is what happens to a team up in North Wales last week. We

have gone to meet the team that is in the record for all the wrong

reasons. Something unusual has happened. Something so strange that

it made headlines all over the world. I am trying to track down the

team who suffered the biggest defeats in the history of Welsh

rugby. I have come to Holly had, 18 you kicked off this season with a

181- Mill defeat. It is not every day that you can say that a team in

this division would make headlines, but they have, and I have come to

find out why. But how exactly does a couch -- coach motivate his team for

that kind of defeat question but let's find out. -- defeat? Let's

find out. Just go for it, guys! , and! Tell me now about that a

bidding game. -- that opening game. Only 11 turned up when we got

there, then another two turned up. They were quite a strong side that

day. You are in the record books as Holyhead, the biggest Welsh defeat

in Welsh rugby. That is not the kind of thing you want to be remembered

for. Will take it in our stride. We have had loads of encouragement from

other parts of the country. The Saracens have invited us to go down

and have a training session, and they have offered us tickets to

watch the game in the afternoon. Were -- where were the other boys?

They were out. Some of them go to university. I have gone down two

games with only 12 men and did being 121-0. We all knew it was going to

be a hard game. We played for the club, we play for our shirt. That is

all we could do. A result like 180 120 -- 181-0, that is not good for

anybody. Ultimately, they want to get themselves sorted first, and we

will help them out with regards to senior coaching, but we also want to

sustain them to make sure that there is a sustainability to what we are

doing. I commend those lads for going in there and playing. The fact

that they come in and do it again and again, that tells you a lot

about the Holyhead boys. They deserve praise. I am in tears! OK,

so it is another defeat for Holyhead, but I think reports of

their demise have been greatly exaggerated. Far from the worst team

in Welsh rugby, I have actually found the spirit amongst these boys

here to be pretty inspiring. Their play to them. Far more respectable

score for Holyhead, and would love to them on their road to recovery.

As it got you here in the studio, it has been at a drag and beam. -- a

Dragon theme. What do you expect Mister Mark I do not know what to

expect. -- expect? I do not know what to expect. I hope he can in the

bottom things. We will keep improving our performance. We must

wish the very best to Tom Smith. He had a very nasty looking injury and

was taking oxygen on the page and was structured off and taken to

hospital by ambulance. We have heard today that he has a Spitz --

suspected dislocated knee. He missed last season with a injury -- and

injury. We wish times that a speedy recovery. That is it from us in the

studio. We are going on air with Holyhead -- Scrum V extra. That is

all for now. Thank you for joining us.