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Expectations... Pressure... Duet from Merv the Swerve. It was

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pulsating... At times, brittle. A nerve-racking finale to a Grand

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A Grand Slam goes to Wales! Good evening, welcome to this Six

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Nations special. A weekend of high emotion as Wales win their third

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Grand Slam in eight seasons. This time last year, who would have

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thought that in the space of five months we would be World Cup semi-

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finalists and Six Nations champions? I will be chatting to

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the old guard. First, let's hear from a man of the match, Dan

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Lydiate. You have got to do it to win a Grand Slam. I'm glad it is

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over. And joining us tonight, Jonathan Davies, Kingsley Jones and

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Chamakh -- CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Welcome back. What a date! And

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Knight... It was an incredible day. I am just wondering how many people

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will turn up for work tomorrow. fitting tribute to a man much loved

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by Welsh Rugby? The crowd was superb yesterday. It was at its

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that to start, in memory of Mervyn Davies, and the minute's silence

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was impeccable. The team winning the Grand Slam, several players

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said this morning that they do it for Mervyn. Three Grand Slams in

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eight seasons, what an achievement? Fantastic. The thing I enjoyed

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boast was when the boys did a lap of honour. Everyone just stood and

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applauded. It was fantastic. When did you watch the game? -- where

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did. I watched it in a restaurant in Georgia. There were 17 plasma

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screens, all showing Wales. Everyone was congratulating me as

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if I had played, it was fantastic. It really made you proud to be

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Welsh. Everybody was over the moon. How did you get on? I don't want to

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

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tell you! It began with a minute's Lovely pass by Priestland. Beware

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

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the French are more! -- the French gear. WHISTLE BLOWS. Wheels have

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used all of their back row. The a magnificent finish! That is what

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you have to do, you have to get the ball through a hands and turn it

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WHISTLE BLOWS. The Welsh have a penalty. France always under

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

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was. WHISTLE BLOWS. It is just a again and his work is rewarded.

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Leigh Halfpenny... It is long Lydiate makes what may be the

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

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tackle of the match. France inside the scrum. -- hurling at the scrum.

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Yash belly with a simple three Leigh Halfpenny sprints away. Great

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the ball away! Leigh Halfpenny extends the lead to

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16 points. Wales are inching their way, second by second, to their

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third Grand Slam and second years. We have turnover ball. Penalty to

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Wales. Wales have won the Grand Slam! It

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What a game, what an atmosphere. Let's hear from the team. I put my

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body on the line. You have got to do it to win a Grand Slam. It was

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the first chance for a lot of us. We are just over the moon. Last

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match of the Six Nations at home, what can be better? Honour those

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ridiculous sessions we did, I guess it has paid off, brilliant. It was

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just one of those games, you think, it can be a draw. At least it was a

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draw we would not lose. But you want to go for gold, don't you?

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What was the feeling walking round the stadium with 70,000 people

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applauding you? It was so real, to be honest. I remember thinking how

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proud I was of a team in the past and to be part of a Grand Slam

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winning side is something that for me personally, I never dreamt of

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Avon playing in the Six Nations but playing in the Grand Slam is very

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special. As a team, we haven't played that sort of match in a long

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time. It was pretty simple. We scored some pretty special tries.

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That was a game for kicking and chasing and it was hard work.

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boys had to dig deep and show some toughness and character and

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hopefully, it is their real turning-point for Welsh rugby. They

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have shown some great courage in this tournament. They have come

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through. It was an incredible atmosphere on

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that page. It has been a privilege to allies

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this. 75% of the squad are probably three or four years of their best.

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They said the World Cup was a It was all about territory against

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France, playing in their own half. France were under pressure, 17

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kicks. That reflects their under pressure. Let's look at the

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comparisons. Comparing with England they were second in the

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field, and that is reflected. Every time they visited the 22, a try

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every four visits. Really confident in having ball in hand. A team

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offloading usually wins. Look at the comparison. If you want to win

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in the Six Nations you have got to tackle strongly. Defence and

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territory when the impressive things that caught my eye. They

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talk about being clinical in their game, clinical pulls not -- doesn't

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necessarily mean tries. They are talking to each other and keep on

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They are composed. France are going nowhere. The Welsh team guard their

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line. But they have done so throughout the tournament. France

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are going to get frustrated, because that line is not going to

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be broken. Jamie Roberts advancing. That makes a difference. Lloyd

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Williams getting stuck in. Look at Adam Jones! Giving 110%. The

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kicking game was so instrumental. Graceland and Halfpenny while world

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class. -- were world class. This is a long kick. It's about keeping the

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ball in play. Leigh Halfpenny, he had a superb Grand Slam. Wales have

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done us proud. There are no stats for commitment to the cause, but

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all those elements were there. They have done their coaches, their

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family, and their coaches, and the greater Mervyn Davies, proud.

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Wales showed great guts and determination. The rout the

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tournament, to be fair. -- throughout. The England performance

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typical that their defence. They have had to work hard. What have

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you made of their desire? In it has been brilliant. I have enjoyed

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watching them. France were always going to be negative. They wanted

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it to be a dogfight. They have been magnificent all the way through.

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The defence, as we saw in the stats, it has been amazing. We saw a great

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bunch of lads. One man put his body on the line, than litigate -- Dan

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Lydiate. He is old fashioned type of player. He is hitting people

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around the ankles. A big part of the Welsh game is the turnover. He

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puts the defender in a position, I'm sorry, the attacker, he puts

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them in a position that they don't want to be in. For me, the player

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of the tournament. You sat there in October, you picked him out, a

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great performance. I was a flanker as well, he's the type of player

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that they coach once. -- that a coach would want. The number of

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tackles, the carries, he is worth his weight in gold. Let's talk

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about Rhys Priestland, there was some critics against Italy, but he

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controlled the game well yesterday. He could have let his head drop.

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Warren Gatland was very wise. The captain on the field. Yesterday,

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there was the odd radio kick, but generally kicked long. He put the

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French defence under pressure. He came good in the second half. He

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kept a Wales down there, where they wanted to be to win the game. He

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played very well. I thought he put some lovely passes on for our

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players. He orchestrates the defence. He brings people into the

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game. I have been impressed with him, he's going to get better and

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better. Australia is coming up, that will be a hard test. There are

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so many players you can pick out. - - we were worried about Alex

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Cuthbert, when you have up your boots. -- when you hung up your

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boots. It doesn't make me look good, does it! He is much bigger than

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you! He is coming on leaps and bounds. This is his first season. I

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had helped him. He has been outstanding, I have enjoyed

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watching him. He has developed into a good player. He can read the game,

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he works hard off his wing. He has shown that is up there with the

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Best. His story is a great. In the Ireland game, they're all great.

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That is the whole thing, the squad have come together. That is a sign

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of a great team. When some players are not have the Best, the other

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stand up and be counted. -- are not on the top form. You have to give

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Warren Gatland a huge amount of credit for bringing these young

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players through. 100%. The guys he has brought in, he has given them

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confidence. The young fellows coming in, they are at a great age.

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Ryan Jones, what a man. He was dropped as captain, but he has come

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in and got better and better. He has done a great job. I think the

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balance they have, with the young lads, the front-row experience,

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it's a great balance. I wish we could play the All Blacks next week.

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I do, as long as Dan Carter is still injured!

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There is tremendous strength in depth. Yes there is. I spoke to

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Sanne yesterday, he had mixed emotions. To come off injured, he

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was desperately disappointed. Ryan James came on, he was outstanding.

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-- Ryan Jones. I have never seen a depth like this before. You have

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three players in the squad who have won Grand Slams, is that just luck,

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or something special? I think it is something special. They are bad

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injuries coming to the tournament, they have come back without much

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gain time. They have shown their class. It shows how much faith the

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coaching staff having them. Ryan Jones equalled the record as

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captain, and he has come on and played superbly well. You have Ian

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Evans, a team-mate of yours, he has won every Six Nations game he has

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played in. He is a super player. He is unsung, he has been brilliant

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every time. We will hear more from you later.

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We are celebrating a Wales grand- slam, but it was a day of mixed

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emotions. Words like legend an icon are

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bandied about far too easily. Not in the case of Mervyn Davies. His

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incredible skills and athleticism made him one of the all-time greats,

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in world rugby. Had his career and not -- had his career not been cut

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short, he would have added to his caps. He had 30th for Wales, and

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two successful Lions tours. He was instantly recognisable. He was a

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natural leader. Quietly spoken, not a man to waste his words. He did

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his talking on the field. Rugby fans the world over will talk about

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It's fair to say he was quite a character. I had the privilege of

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going to East Africa with them -- going to South Africa with him. We

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drank l'art! -- we drank a lot of beer! We have a Sunday school, we

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went on a boat trip. We were dying before we got on the boats, when I

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saw the sea, I didn't think I could go on. DEC got rather than offer. -

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- of the waves were getting bigger and bigger. I could see laughter.

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Mervyn Davies was there, a pint in one hand, and some boiled eggs in

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the other. He called us pansies! Wonderful memories. We talk about

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your period, do you think we are looking at a new golden period for

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Welsh rugby? They have some great men in charge. Shaun Edwards is

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unique, they have brought a winning element into the Welsh side. They

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are the fitter side in world rugby. If they can get those fitness

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levels going, the strength in depth, they can go down to Australia and

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put their hand up. They need to be those kinds of sides. There is no

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limit to what they can achieve. Let's get some more action for you

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Let's get some more action for you now. Wales' women took on France.

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The French side ran in five tries. They have a top point lead at the

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break. The one-way traffic continued in the second half. This

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try was the pick of the bunch. England's dominance of the women's

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game continued. Scotland Tacoma the wooden spoon, like the men. -- took

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home the wooden spoon. It was also disappointing result

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for the Welsh Under 20 side. The French ran in a two tries. wails

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ran in a late consolation. There is still a a lot of work to do.

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England made a back-to-back title. -- ing and made it a back-to-back

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-- ing and made it a back-to-back title.

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The rugby continues. It is the business end of the Pro12.

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Munster take on the Ospreys. On Saturday, stand by for the Cardiff

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Italy and Scotland were battling it out to avoid the wooden spoon and

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England and Ireland were battling comes the day. -- Morgan comes away

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once more. Penalty to England. Owen Farrell with relative ease the

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BLOWS. They near side penalty try. The forwards have their reward.

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England dominating territory and possession. Keith Earls is the way

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and frees himself. Looking around... Taking down by Strettle. Or nearly

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-- Tomas O'Leary goes for the Cross food kick and it goes into touch.

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WHISTLE BLOWS. Penalty to England. Youngs has gone for the try. Quick

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thinking by a scrum-half. That must have been close to being

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a forward pass. There's a gap for Venditti. Venditti on his 4th

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international appearance. This is what the Italians are good at. This

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into the runners-up spot. On familiar territory for France, 4th

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place. Scotland have a Six Nations whitewash when first time thinks

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There is not much more Stuart Lancaster can do to get the job,

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what do you think? I think he has got a good work ethic and as a

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coach, they are playing well. I was talking about this last week. We

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said that Farrell is a very good man. That combination, and we were

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saying maybe they would go for a Nick Mallett. Why go for a big name

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when a bloke is doing his job. He cannot do any more. They have got

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to put faith in him now. Saracens will want to keep Farrell. I think

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they should give him the job and carry on. What do you think, should

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they give the job to Stuart Lancaster? The reaction of the

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players, he has brought them back down to earth. They are now very

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humble, they are very back to the fans. He should be the man for the

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job. What worries me is that the big names in England are shedding

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Nick Mallett. I would go for it Stuart Lancaster. Is he the man to

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see it through? To be fair to Andy Robinson, I think he could probably

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walk out of Scotland and walk into a very good job. He hasn't got a

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great pool of players. He has brought some good players through.

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Unfortunately, international rugby is about winning and his record is

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not good enough. He may be feeling on the fact that he wants to play a

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similar style to Wales but everyone is saying about the cutting edge of

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midfield. Unfortunately sometimes you have to play to the strength of

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the team. The only thing I would be critical of his is he playing to

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the strength of the Scottish team? The back row was impressive?

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scrums are not bed -- bad and the back row is not bad and you have

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got people who can kick the ball. You do not build your game unless

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you get some wins. They have got no balance in midfield. They cannot

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get the ball to them so it is a waste of time. They had two yellow

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cards yesterday. It is not the coach's fault when they are doing

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stupid things on the fault. -- on the pitch. If you are a man short

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you are very lucky to score a point. If you can score points, you are in

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trouble. Let's get more reaction to the

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Grand Slam. Earlier we spoke to a legend and Scrum V favourite...

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Wales have won the Grand Slam. Next, a three-match Test series in

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Australia. I have been given the responsibility of getting some

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action from that neck of the woods. We have a time delay and my brain

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delay, which could be interesting! Let's see who we all speak to this

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morning. It is... The maestro himself, welcome to Scrum V. Good

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morning, or good evening for you guys. Who cares what time of day it

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is, lovely to see you. Wales won the Grand Slam. How has it been

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received on the other side of the world? About time, a lot of people

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were thinking. The Welsh from last year have demonstrated they have

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got a side that can go further in the competition. I was disappointed

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with the way they finished. Alex Cuthbert is coming up quietly on

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the rails? I get abused by a lot of Welsh people on Twitter. Someone

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said, get ready for this young very coming through, he is 7 ft 1 or 4

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never. He has grown a few inches. That's great try-scoring. A lot of

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people round the world will be worried because the Welsh are going

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to come to Australia this year. So, three Tests and they could be in

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good stead when the Six Nations and showing under pressure that they

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can play good rugby. So you are saying there you are worried about

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his in Australia, worried that the latter coming?

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It is about time that they have got a great team together and are being

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competitive. In previous years, you had one-off Tests and Wales were

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always hard to beat at home. But then they travelled and his

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struggle. Let's see who as we can find on the

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way. We were clearly the victim of a New Zealand-island flat during

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the World Cup to make sure that Wales did not get in the final. The

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real best team in the world were denied in Auckland. We are just

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going to have to wait until 2015. This Welsh team are officially

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acknowledging three Grand Slams in eight years. This is a golden

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period for Welsh rugby. When they held that trophy aloft, it looked

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good. Let these guys just play rugby. Don't panic, don't get

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nervous, just get right behind the Alliance and push them through to

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2015. -- behind the lads. Playing against Australia is a opportunity

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for Wales to prove their credentials. Fans have been gagging

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for a proper rugby. We need more line scorers. We are a competitive

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outfit. We are going to crush the criminals in their own backyard!

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is always a great pleasure to see you. It is much more fun to have a

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beer with you. Enjoy this fantastic Grand Slam.

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Getting very excited about Wales's tour to Australia. What do the boys

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It is massive. We need to get out their anger to resolve. This is a

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new era, a new side. It was a real tight Six Nations, if you look back

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at it. They know, when the chips are down, when things are tight,

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they can go out and win it. I think they'll be looking forward to going

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to Australia, take the spoils. have to send a message, that we up

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for it. I think so. Everybody will take notice. It is time to deliver.

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A great staff. -- great staff. The you think Warren Gatland is the

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favourite for the British lines job? I think so. -- British Lions.

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He has a great record. Semi-finals of the World Cup, three glans lambs.

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-- Grand Slams. To Wales wanting to be the -- would Wales wanted to be

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the British Lions coach? I think so. If he wants the job, they should

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let him have it. Thanks very much. Would you like to see Warren

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Gatland in the British Lions job? think it is a definite. He has a

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great coaching team. I can see Graham Rowntree being the forwards

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coach, there will be a lot of Welsh players on the tour. It makes sense

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for Warren to get the job. Summer tours after their chance to bring

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young players in, but this is different. We have won a Grand

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Slams before, and fallen short on tours. It is tough down there. You

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are playing them in their backyard. The Best teams in the world, the

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Best players in the world. Now is the time to go out there, we are

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full of confidence. What Wales are known to have to learn to do, is to

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come back when they are losing games. The squad they got, now is

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the time to go there. I would much rather go to Australia Banner New

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Zealand also paprika. -- than in New Zealand or South Africa. It is

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all about the world rankings, getting up as high as possible?

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There is nothing like beating the Australians. That is the only way

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you get respect of them. -- off Ben. Sometimes they don't show you

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respect. It is a great opportunity. Hopefully we won't have too many

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injuries. It is not a one-off, you have time to adjust to the country.

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I want to talk to about Warren Gatland. He always impresses me

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when he gives an interview. Is he the greatest Welsh coach we have

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ever had? There have been some great coaches. He has won 50 caps

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for the All Blacks. They have been some great coaches. He has I

:45:55.:46:05.
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fantastic job. -- done a fantastic job. A few years ago we didn't have

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the strength to compete with the Australians. This time he has a

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great chance of taking the lads out there, and pinching some results.

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There has to be a succession policy if he takes the British lines jobs.

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-- British Lions. I think Rob has enough experience to takeover. I

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would leave it as it is, even if he has to take a sabbatical. You're

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watching it in a studio, had about feel? It was tough. -- how did that

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feel? I was on pins and needles. The way they have won the Games, it

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has given me bonkers. It has been brilliant. I have really enjoyed it.

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I find it difficult when they are singing the anthems. It has been

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fantastic. I'm a lucky charm, five games commentating, five wins.

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Thank you very much. Thanks to my guests. It began in Dublin, it

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ended in Cardiff with 250,000 people letting loose in a Grand

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