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The party has lasted a all week and a feel-good factor has ignited the

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pro at 12. Welsh rugby remains on a Good evening and welcome to Scrum V.

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I am joined by a triple Grand Slam winner Jones. We will be looking at

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the Friday night at rugby and the match against Leinster. The Ospreys

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were able to call on a number of Grand Slam winners. Leinster were

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That is a nice angle from Biggar. A second go at it but offside. The

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crowd are hopeful of... And now they can cheer or right. That is

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some picture by Fergus MacFadyen. - - Fergus MacFadyen. Madigan does

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very well. Bounces friendly. James's to ring a loose job there

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for the Ospreys. -- James is doing. They needed that, didn't they.

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well read by Andrew Bishop. It has got to be... On its way back. No

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player and, says the referee, and the support is there from George

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Stowers. That is a magnificent try. Lovely link-up. Still a lot to do.

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And he times the pass wealth. -- well. He has done well controlling

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Leinster. Desperate stuff for the Ospreys. Again, a great difference

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by the Ospreys. How long can they hold out? A nice little slip! And

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this time, the players think the try might have come, and this time

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the referee does go to the t M O. don't think he is complaining about

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the grounding. That is a brilliant bit of defensive work by Ashley

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Beck because the evidence is inconclusive and the disappointment

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on the lens to faces... -- Leinster. Woo! Interesting. A penalty is

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coming now. Was that a tip tackle? A card as well. Basics-point

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deficit to try to close down. -- force the ball. But a slow ball for

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Richard Hibbard. But he has got there! He has got to the try-line.

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Has he got the ball down? It is a try. And the Ospreys have a chance

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to win later on. The crowd us stunned. -- are stunned. A chance

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to put the Ospreys ahead, and it is not easy. Hit the top of the post

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and it is there! It hit the top of the post and it has gone in! And

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the Ospreys have, incredibly, gone ahead! Congratulations on the

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winning try. Just talk us through it? I thought I may as well go for

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it, from a rest on the wing. I thought my parents were coming

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The travellers must have fancied their chances at Murrayfield,

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having won three of their games. If Dragons of three down. Tom Brown,

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nosing forward. Can he get the ball down? The Dragons have to reset.

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Lewis Evans is the runner. Jones, and with this kick, he is looking

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for Chavhanga. And he has it down wind. A sidekick from Jones and

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Chavhanga did the rest. Edinburgh will go through the phases.

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Advantage being played again by Mr Lacey. The penalty is given.

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Another chance for Harry Leonard. No problem for the fly half with

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that, and the Dragons that lead by a point. Tom Brown on the fall-back

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position, on his own on the ten- metre line. Dragon's taking it up

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through the forwards again. -- the Dragons, taking it up. That was

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meant for Adam Hughes and this is for Chavhanga. Another brilliant

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try by the wing and that is what happens when you have the biggest

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man in world rugby. And through the gap goes Scott, almost up to the 22

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of the Dragons. A quick ball would be handy for Adam Brown. This will

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 43 seconds

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it will be difficult for Adam Brown The result everybody is talking

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about is your boys at the weekend. To go up to Edinburgh and do that?

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Yes. Some stuff have been written about it, players leaving and that,

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but the first game back. And the Europeans on their own patch?

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It is tough. A great result. How did the Ospreys to it on Friday?

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think they showed great character in their defence. I put some clips

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together and at times, they were under the cosh and some of the late

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defence into attack. Often on the back foot, the Ospreys, often the

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line break, but central to it. A great tackle there. Under pressure,

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defending, turning the ball back into the Ospreys' favour. The

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Ospreys in great trouble after this. The pressure is taking off. This is

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what won then the game. We see the European champions five metres from

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the Ospreys' line. No chance. Paul James, great scrum. No platform to

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play it off. Scrum, five metres from the try-line again. The 74th

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minute. Another scrum. Then the 79th minute. The Ospreys in the

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lead. The Ospreys have the dominant scrum for the most part of the

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night. But at times, they got What happened there? When you

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looked at the video, I don't know. You ask them, are you going to ref

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this, are you going to ref that? And when you ask them certain

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questions, they don't referee. But they came back in the second half

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and dominated. All season we have heard about the Ospreys'

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concentration on a youth policy. And that is why I guess we saw

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Shane Williams on the sidelines. That result is indication that this

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policy is working? Yes. I guess they have had to do it to a certain

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extent with the Budget. But it is good. They are all good players. It

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seems to be working and doing the right thing. The same with Wales.

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They go out and play their rugby. They don't care who they are

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playing against. They just enjoy a bit of rugby. So they come through.

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And you announced a few weeks ago you were staying with the Committee

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for a few years. We have seen a lot of Welsh players going overseas.

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What was in your decision to stay? As a young player, going out, the

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support network. I hadn't won much with the Ospreys and I would like

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to see it through. We have good players in these boys coming

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through so I am happy there. It is my region, my team. I might go to

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France in a couple of years but I would like to see it through for

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the season. An interesting development this week, and we have

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heard developments in the New Zealand press a couple of players

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might be joining Treviso? Yes. They have done a bit in Japan. It might

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be good for Treviso, generate some interest. It is great for the whole

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pro 12 if you can get those sorts of names associated with the League.

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It is great. Thank you for that. A week has passed until the Grand

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Slam was won. We caught up with Sam Warburton to see if it was sinking

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The fireworks and the music and the lads screaming their heads off. It

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was one of the best feelings I have had. Sam Warburton, walking around

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here. Looking at the applause and the adulation. You marry and -- ran

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Slam winning captain. I am so glad that I said yes to the captaincy

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otherwise I would have missed out done so many great up opportunities.

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To the captain of the Welsh team, I am privileged. You were 23-year-old,

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do you go to the senior guys and asked them for advice? Ryan has

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been a massive help fund the. He has been a big influence on me. A

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lot has been said about the younger players in the squad but the senior

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players have been phenomenal and supporting them. Brian has been

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playing great, Gething, Mike, Adam. They have been great. There were

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many people at half-time who would have awarded you man-of-the-match.

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Than was phenomenal. He has played like that in the past it has never

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had recognition for it. He wasn't so much pain. He doesn't feel pain

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in the game and the heart the size of the lion. Afterwards, he is

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always in a mess. You mentioned in your usual humble way that you felt

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Warkworth lifting the trophy because you had not played in all

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the games any last Warren Gatland to lift it with you. If you look

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again time, I played about two four games. There were players who

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started every game and I felt they deserved to lift the trophy more

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than I did. Warren Gatland told me I should do it. I asked Ryan Jones

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in Gethin Jenkins and they refused. I appreciated that jester from them.

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Before we go, I was hoping to give this to you. A bespoke chocolate

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rugby ball! It is phenomenal. It is on fire. That is or San! It is

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almost as good as winning the Grand Slam!

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Job colicky maybe Betty has not eaten it all just yet. What about

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an outsider's perspective on the Welsh Grand Slam. We travelled to

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London and spoke to an Englishman, an Irishman, a Scotsman and another

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Welshman! It was recently a in Twickenham. --

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it was a sunny day. Despite an invitation to get stuck in, Scrum V

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stayed on the sidelines and asked the questions. Wells played to

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their strengths. They have some very big boys in the back line. --

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Wales. They got through a lot of work. They were reloading with the

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forwards. It they have powerful backs. It worked for them. I can't

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deny them their victory. We came close to beating them but they

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stuck to it. They took the victory. We are disappointed we lost to them

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that fair play is a them. I think Wales played the best

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attacking rugby. Some of the tries they scored and the way they guys

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play it was great to watch. They are very strong. They are playing

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some great rugby. They can get their backs to regroup in attack.

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It is a very tight group. It is great for them as a team.

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They have been developing in getting better. They have really

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come on leaps and bounds and have got quality players. When we looked

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at the game we knew it was going to be at a gas gannet to take a

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massive effort to be done. -- hard game. We knew was that game was

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lost, they had this spring in their step. They did it in style with a

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grand slam. After that Ireland game, we knew we had a chance. We had two

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home games. To play Scotland and after that result, Twickenham. It's

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started building. Everybody makes an effort. You did not want to lose

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at this level. It is the critical moments that count. The boys were

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ready to put their bodies on the line for each other.

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We have got the Australians next. Do you think they can kick on from

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here and sneak a serious us when series victory? They probably feel

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a bit hard done by with how the World Cup ended. The group were

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guys they have is encouraging. I don't know why they should not go

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down there with high hopes. Wales have a mission going down there.

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They are playing gun rugby and they will try to break Australia down

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which will not be easy as a sliver three games. You learn so much off

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each other. There is nowhere to hide any more. They need to get off

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to a good start. Wales will know what they will want to do. They

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have a good chance of getting a series when. It will not be easy.

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It will be very, very top. northern hemisphere had definitely

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in there. Wales have massive confidence going in there. England

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went over their previous eight. I expect the Welsh boys to be looking

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forward to going out there. One of my wife's favourite moment was a

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what she knew wearing a pink Catt. I thought I would appeal to men and

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women worldwide wearing that! I have taken a bit of stick for

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wearing it but I thought it looked good! They are all very gracious,

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the did concede Wales was the best side of the tournament. For you, it

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was a milestone. You very Triple Crown Slam winner. Quite a lot had

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been said about it beforehand. It is an honour. There are Rowley six

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others who have done that. In terms of the tournament itself, there is

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a feeling this one was a bit more unexpected than the ones in 2005

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and 2008. We were on a bit of a right after the World Cup. We got

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to the semi-final. And Sam was sent off after 20 minutes. The first two,

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it was close. Everybody knows the quality of the squad now. We need

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to continue with the performances. Equality of us what everybody has

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been commenting on. People have been picking their Lions team.

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Warren Gatland has been heavily tipped to close the Lions team. One

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newspaper report claimed he had been offered the job and we believe

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it is true. I think one of the present he is the man to lead the

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team. I think the majority of the Welsh squad will be going on that

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tour. There is no better person, really, to know how those boys

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operate and get the best out of them. Rob Howley, Shaun Edwards

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worked together really well. They have been on a Lions tour already.

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Robin McBryde might be the one who misses out. I can see that being

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the coaching staff. Good stuff. Let's return to the PRO12 for the

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moment and the big Welsh derby yesterday at the Cardiff City

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Scarlets. Alex Cuthbert and Lloyd Casey Laulala. And he looked around

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for support. A good tackle by Alex Cuthbert should get there. He

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has made a mess of it. Gift for Andy Fenby. Just before half-time.

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The Cardiff Blues can't believe they conceded like that. Alex

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Cuthbert should have gone down on that one but instead he fumbled and

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a gift for Andy Fenby. Lloyd Williams gets the ball away

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and missed by Alex Cuthbert. It is through again for the Scarlets.

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Andy Fenby. Alex Cuthbert is back there, he has learned his lesson.

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That is what he should have done up the first time. He has saved the

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day for the Cardiff Blues. Does a tied up under -- just got tied up

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and Andy Fenby's feet. You wonder what Jamie Roberts could have done

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comes Dan Parks. What a mess by Dan Parks! Another simple try for Andy

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Fenby. The Cardiff Blues will be kicking themselves. And the hen --

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Andy Fenby with the heart through. Dan Parks had all the time in the

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world. Thank goodness he has signed by sure Lamond. -- Sean Lamont. A

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yellow card for him. No doubt at all about that one. 10 minutes to

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and he is clear and a wave. Alex Cuthbert makes amends for the

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earlier mistake by getting the Cardiff Blues's first points of the

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evening. Nigel Davies can't believe it. Aled Thomas's past tipped off

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by Alex Cuthbert. You can go one handed and still intercept without

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Michael Paterson is there to recover. The Scarlets should have

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had a fair try there. The break was made that the final pass was not

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delivered. The Cardiff Blues get a chance to clear the decks. They

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Scarlets have it. Back inside to Gareth Davies. He has gone over.

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The Scarlets do have a third try. The Blues did not clear. Number for

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turns it over. Lovely work by Dominic Day. The Cardiff Blues

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desperately pressing forward. It is going to come back on the Blues

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side. Macaulay Cook leaves his for Lloyd Williams. The head down

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charge comes from Scott Andrews. A penalty coming for the Blues unless

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something better comes. It is a try for Casey Laulala. If anybody is

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going to create, it is going to be him. The Cardiff Blues are still in

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this game. There is defend and Casey Laulala get a well deserved

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George North gets the first round. He is into the 22, a superb offload.

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Dominic a guest the Scarlets a bonus point. What a night for them

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at the Cardiff City Stadium! This is what George North does at his

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best. Fantastic offload out of the tackle. That is a great win for the

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It was a huge win for us, a great game of rugby, and it puts us in a

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very strong position. We have four games left in the league and we

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have to win this one. We have everything to play for. We know we

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have errors in our game that we have to get to grips with on Monday.

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The players know that themselves and we will make sure that, as we

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go through the week, we will put them right. So let's ground but the

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This is now the table. The Scarlets are now a solitary point from the

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That was the Scarlets' third bonus point victory in a row. They are

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rarely timing of their running to these play-offs well. Yeah. It is

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worrying, really, because they are a team that can cause anybody

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problems. We need to watch our backs. The coaches would be too

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happy because there were many errors, weren't there? Yeah.

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Particularly the first half. You see the start of the game, Scarlets

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ball to play-off. Throws it too high, lost the game. It wasn't just

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Llanelli. But it was for Scarlet, the Blues. Fantastic break there.

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The Scarlets were in all sorts of trouble there. Tom James was the

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first to pick up. Maybe he shouldn't have picked up. And then

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the knock-on. Could break and of course, Alex Cuthbert, who has had

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a great Sixsmith -- Six Nations... He is a big man and that is a soft

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try. The Scarlets capitalise more on the Blues' errors. I do not know

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what damn Parks was thinking here. That is such a soft try. -- Dan

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Parks. We don't you want to have the ball at the moment? This man,

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George North! Great offload, it has had to be said, from North. And

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then a finish from Day. But I am sure both coaches will be

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frustrated. The Blues more so because the Scala has capitalised

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on some really silly errors. then Stephen Jones pulled out with

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an illness and that was a hell of a cameo of? Yes. They would be a bit

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more worried about George coming Thank you for that. Sam Warburton

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doesn't require surgery on his injured shoulder so he will only be

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out for six weeks. He will miss the European quarter-final against

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Leinster but he should be fit for the Australian tour to lead Wales

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Down Under. You are all familiar with the Brian Moore challenge. We

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have a new challenge coming your way, so stay tuned. The first rule

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of kick club is that you do not talk about kick club. The second

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rule is that you do not talk about kit club. The third rule of kit

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club is our forwards only, no backs allowed. The 4th forties, when you

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are asked to kick, New kick. -- the 4th rule is. Intriguing. Stay

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tuned! As well as the Cup Finals this

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weekend, we also saw Neath at Pontypridd other favourite cup

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holders but it is always a tough place to come. How are you? Can I

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have a quick word? How are you looking forward to the game? We are

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all excited. Obviously a fantastic game down at Neath. We don't get

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too many wins here but we will take confidence and hopefully get a

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victory and a place in the semi- finals. I can see the chief over

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there. How are you? A beautiful day out there. You are the favourites.

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Are you looking forward to it? Absolutely gorgeous day. A winner

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favourites? I don't know about that! -- are we the favourites? It

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is a matter of taking what we know out onto the pitch. Last time we

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got a better result than we thought and the time before that, we could

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-- Dan Godfrey. That is the first try for Pontypridd. Beautifully

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worked from the scrum-half, Lewis Jones. Jones gets that little dart

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in again. And it must be a score for Matthew Nuttall. Beautiful work

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by then. -- by them. Chris Morgan, standing off the scrum-half. He is

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up to halfway... And running to the posts for Neath's first. Lee Evans,

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charging... In the shadow of the Pontypridd posts. A drop goal, and

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but it was there. Congratulations to Bronte Bridge.

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Here are the other quarter-finals played. -- congratulations to

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We're still celebrating the Grand Slam and earlier this week, we went

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to see the special schools Six Nations.

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It is Thursday morning. The Six Nations finished last Saturday but

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not for these kids. What do the kids get out of this? Social skills,

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confidence. You haven't you got to look at their faces to see the

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enjoyment. -- you have only got two. You have supported this tournament

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for the last four years. Why do you keep coming back? You only have to

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watch a few of the games to see people enjoying themselves and we

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get so much out of it as well. The enthusiasm they show is second to

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none. It is very important that as professional rugby players, we put

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something back into the community. We really enjoy it. We have had the

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skills session in the morning and the tournament has just started. It

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is Wales against England. Let's He is a way! Look at this!

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Fantastic! What a great trier! This is Daniel Pritchard, the

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captain of Wales. How have you enjoyed beating England? Fantastic,

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thank you. Who was your best player? He scored the two tries?

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Yes. What did you think of the Six Nations? Be it was awesome. Good

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luck in the next game. You better go and see your team.

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Great stuff. Well done to all the players and the schools. We have

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had our fair share of rugby dynasties and Wales over the years.

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Now we have got the Williamses. will long remember those incredible

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scenes from the weekend, as Wales celebrated their latest Grand Slam,

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and the joy we felt as a nation, but imagine the pride he would feel

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if your boy was playing for Wales last weekend. Well, Scrum V's very

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own Welsh international and British Lion, Williams. His boy was playing

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for Wales at the weekend, so let's It was a very special occasion. I

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had to say that. How you feeling? mixed emotions, really. I was

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excited and nervous but the game was over before rain you it. It has

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a great feeling at the end when the ball went out of touch, it was such

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relief. It was very fantastic, we are proud of him. There is a long

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way to go on the lot of things to learn. But as a special moment for

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our hosts or! You have got a lot to learn! I still get that! Does it

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get on your nerves? When I come home we don't talk about rugby. It

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is good to have that there to bounce ideas off. Do you think he

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was helpful to you in the early days? I always played a lot of

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football when I was younger and enjoyed that. I gradually went to

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high school, and their gang of boys I got on with was the rugby boys.

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Once Dad realised my heart was set on rugby he gave me the help I

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needed. He is doing well but he is starting his journey. He has got

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more caps than his father already! I was a Lions Test player. But you

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haven't got any Lions Test caps yet! But that counts for 15 caps!

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The party on Saturday night, Sunday was Mother's Day and no doubt you

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were here. There was a bit of a I listen to his stories from the

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World Cup. There seems to be a lot of mutual respect bellbird. They

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pull together and pour out in the right direction. It is not a

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coincidence, the Six Nations, it is due to what has happened on the

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training field and off the field. I don't know much about his, he does

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not share a lot with me! There seems to be a lot of mutual respect

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between the lads and that is part of the reason why the are so

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successful and hopefully they will confront the challenges ahead.

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lot of the boys in the squad have done that. The average age is about

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24. The boys have done a lot in a short space of time. They are hard

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workers. The boys are happy playing rugby, really. There is a lot a --

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a little cold hot that you call the Wolff Park. I see on message boards.

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It is something that we will keep close to our chests! It all sounds

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very secretive and intriguing. But you know anything about it?

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haven't got a clue. They don't speak to us all the fellers! We can

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confirm that Adam Jones is not in the wolf pack. Something we can

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talk about is the Australia tour. It is at the end of a gruelling

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season for you. Are you up for it? A yes. You get breaks throughout

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the season. Funny, touring Australia is fantastic. It is going

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to be extra-special because not many of us have done it. I am

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looking forward to the trip. We will go out there were a bit of

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confidence. You mentioned it is an old school to have. We don't often

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see the summer to us now. We a three-Test series and some

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provincial games. I was lucky enough to go one in 1996 to

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Australia. We played seven games. The likes of the Brumbies, won a

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tart, the reds all those teams. You bond together. They are tough Test

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matches but it will be a great trip. Everybody will be itching to go on

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it. A great place to tour and a number of Welsh players sticking

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their hands up. He has had a lot of trouble with injuries. He came on

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the scene and scored on his debut and things were looking up. But he

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has had a lot of bangs and bumps. Knowing him personally, he is such

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a strong character but he has been down quite a bet. He is good fun

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and a good man to have on tour. bit of a character? Yes, yes!

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stuff. This Australia tour will be very tough opponents. They're

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second in the world. If anybody knows how to preach that defence it

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is a man like yourself. Their game is based, they are not strong on

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the set piece. Their game is based on turnovers. The error side with

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one of the least possessions and the World Cup. A -- they are

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Raeside. Wales and can upset them. One tis your prediction? I think

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