13/03/2016 Scrum V

England, in such control. It's a penalty against Wales. Wales will be

on the scoreboard at last. Wales score! Six minutes to go. A third

try. What drama is left. England survive the late challenge by Wales.

Hello, good evening to you. Welcome to the Six Nations special, yes it

is defeat but if you are looking for therapy, we have a doctor in the

house. And that was it himself. Also joining us, Wales's under 20s.

Wales's women are here as well. Only one place to start. Sadly it at

Twickenham, the ultimate game of two halves. Fast Eddy was focused on the

draw, firing shots off about the legality of Wales this progress, gin

but both coaches were conservative and confident when it came to

selection, naming unchanged teams. Who would win with the unstoppable

force met the immovable object? There was an appointment in the

midfielder waiting room. Gareth Davies and Dan Biggar left Darren

Brown in a foul mood last time but who would be heroes and villains of

this time around? Brown for the line! Wales scurry

back, it is loose. Rob Evans got back, did he get a hand on the ball?

That's an knock-on, isn't it? Or is it a rolling along the ground?

Hartley... Roberts with the tackle. The defence has recovered. Paul

Clinton could work, I think that was legal. Jamie Roberts gave away the

penalty. On the lake there, doesn't roll

over? I think that such right. -- that is a try. Inconclusive. Held

up, five metre scrum. You have been overruled again!

That wasn't so smoothly than by England.

Anthony Watson! And England, in full control, just after the half hour

mark. The referee lets England counter

rack. And it's a penalty to England. Everything going their way.

Wales will be on the scoreboard at last! A gift from England. Great

work from Dan Biggar. More worry, Warburton does not look

good. Thank goodness for that, thumbs up.

The referee's puzzle has gone, it won't count. It went off and England

player, was it forward out of Jonathan Davies's grasp?

Faletau for the line! Wales, a third try! Is their time? After the

conversion there will be a couple of minutes left.

England's defence around the fringes, solid. George North for the

line! He is in touch. That's it, think. Ten seconds to go, the

referee's whistle has gone. They should take the line-out.

Danny Care kicks it into the crowd and England survive the late

challenge by Wales. We will get the views of our guests

soon. We just didn't turn up, unlike us, I

said in the box after 25 minutes, do I need to make some changes? Make

some replacements to get some energy, because it was very unlike

ask, very disappointing and it cost us the game. It was one game for 60

minutes and another game for 20, the cubicle at knife-point in the first

60 because the last 20 belong to Wales. A funny performance by us,

times we were immaculate, really sharp, intense, but then be dropped

off at the end. We weren't at the races first off, I'm not sure what

it was, then they were too far ahead of us and we gave away some soft

penalties as well in the second half, it has cost us. I was happy

the way we played the first 40 minutes, we were aggressive, played

on the front foot, it's a shame we didn't replicate the first half in

the second half but that's something we can work on. You always believe,

which just wished it went on for another couple of minutes but

England played well, then you the work how to slow it down and stuff,

credit to them but we were second at the races. I don't know what the

answer is, I will be honest and say you have to begrudge goal of

yourself and say we didn't have enough energy in the first half,

very unlike us. Wales have been together for eight years, we have

been together for six weeks so to put in a performance like that shows

where the team is going, we have work to do and we're not the

finished product. Congratulations to them, they have won the Triple Crown

and they deserved to win today. Not only that but also the Six

Nations title after what happened at Murrayfield. Good evening to you.

Must be a pleasant drive across the Severn Bridge for you? A bit easier

than last time! Was it Wales absolutely terrible in the first

half or working and that dominant? It's a combination, England were

smart, they attacked the fringes of Sean's defence, they went short side

against Cuthbert and they just start Wales of traditional reference

points to get them into the game, and for 40 minutes, they had nothing

to feed on, they couldn't get a collision, penalties within leaking

field position and you ally that to an uncharacteristic Wales 40

minutes, they have been big occasions before because the coaches

will think, what did we get wrong? This is a side that has gone to

Twickenham and was successful there, they nailed the game in the World

Cup with the experience they have, you wouldn't expect them to see what

turned up for 40 minutes. Sometimes there isn't a straightforward

explanation for those performances. In theory could have been looking at

30 points in the first 40 minutes because there was no foothold for

Wales at all, just a couple of glimpses of chances, that scoreline

could have really been bigger. Take yourself back to the 2011 Rugby

World Cup quarterfinal, Wales getting off to a blistering start

against Ireland, that is something we have seen under Gatland, they

were so ordinary in the first half. Not a lot to add to what Dean said.

It was and characteristic. We pride ourselves on our defence, these are

some of the missed chances. I thought we kicked poorly as well.

This is the back three, and in fairness to England, they are

grasping the initiative of the new game, you see in the Southern

Hemisphere, when they get the ball, they think, how can I score a try,

how can I eat the guy, get pace into the game? The back three just

embodied that. -- how can I eat the guy.

It came from a kick in the first half, we didn't chase as well as we

normally do, it was uncharacteristic but I think we were flat, every time

we came into their half, gave a penalty away or whatever it was,

that was unusual, we were flat, slow, ponderous, and we offered

nothing, it's the worst performance under Warren Gatland, the first

half. Do you endorse the behaviour of coaches, publicly saying that the

players were showing a lack of enthusiasm yesterday? It's

difficult, but anyone who watched the game would say that tactically,

Wales knew what they have to do to beat England, the performance wasn't

there by the players. The players will be hurting more than myself or

the fans because it was a poor performance and it affects them,

they just lack intensity from the start. Defensively, like we have

mentioned, the worst defensive record under Warren Gatland. If he

had any hair, you would have pulled it out at half-time. But there are

positives, the way they came back in the final quarter, goes to show they

were frustrated, they weren't happy with their performance, but a lot of

work to be done, it was a strange game to what is a Welsh man because

you look for your big players, the one to have consistently played well

for Wales over the years and unfortunately they were second to

the English players yesterday. We hear of Wales wanting to play a more

expansive game but in attack they looked like they didn't know what

they were doing. He has earned the right to play wide, but the options

off then big, they weren't options. He has gone for a switch, Jamie

Roberts has run straight into Dan Biggar but he was the only option.

There was no blindside option, no inside option, it's really not much

that he can do there. That wasn't the only incident, there were times

when they took the ball flat, there weren't any options. If you look at

those instances, if you were going to galvanise that side, you would

want a line-out, get it off the top, put Jamie Roberts... They didn't

have any of that. So any ball they had, they were playing in broken

field which suited the English team. There are times when Care -- Biggar

looks, where is the... The scrum was under pressure, so the traditional

Gatland start point, that get everything in behind, attrition,

direct, weren't there. But Wales were gifting England opportunities.

England looked dynamic in attack, they were very smart at getting the

outside edge. I think the mayhem he would have caused going to the

caller would have created an opportunity. This was there all the

time for England. He should have nailed his man and put Watson over.

But we had some star points, we had a line-out after 37 minutes, it

wasn't great position, and then we had a series of 11 rocks or phases

and we passed the ball five times, we're playing against England, with

the muscle heads they have got in their back row and we pick and

drive, that's our choice, then we had a series of scrums at about 55

minutes in their 22 and we did exactly the same, pick and drive.

Four months ago we were playing against Australia, desperate to

spread the field, look what they did in the last 20 minutes when we did

throw the ball about, its place in rugby. We have just had the World

Cup, the lessons of the Southern Hemisphere, they are getting

lighter, the game is faster, they are passing the ball more and it's

only high risk rugby if your skills on good enough to catch and pass and

you can't control in wide areas. We have two up skill ourselves because

unless we do, playing three tests in the summer, we will be miles behind

them. That is coming from the coaches? They are in a position

whereby they are being told to play a certain brand of rugby. They are

being encouraged to undergo back to the point you asking shame about, is

Warren Gatland right to call them out? He has done it before. It might

be a tactic he might want a response. He does that when he is a

bit angry. He did it in 2010, he threw Ryan Jones under the bus... So

he has to lead before and it might work, personally I don't like it

because I think they should have loyalty and they win together and

lose together, but it's a fair tactic to use but he has got to get

a response. What about the coach's response? Do you rate your players

publicly? If it is so obvious, there is no point spreading a line

everybody can see through. There are times when you say, I don't know

what happened in the first 40 minutes. You have to take some

responsibility for stop there is no point saying, we were competitive

and everyone just slams you for not being transparent. You have got to

get the balance and it's the balance of hanging someone out to dry at a

time when the -- they are feeling vulnerable, but I think he's trying

to get a response for next week, get some emotional... He could have said

we were poor, let energy, not they were poor... Without a doubt, but

sometimes you've just watched the side you have invested so much into,

that's quite an emotional moment. side you have invested so much into,

couple of years ago side you have invested so much into,

really talented individuals can do. He has got done

really talented individuals can do. came on... It was good to see Rhys

Webb back, he has been chomping at the bit, we'll know he's deadly

around breakdown, he brought a bit of speed to his distribution. He got

caught once by Itoje but every other Welsh player did as well. He was

dangerous on the breakdown and was creating gaps for others. Rhys

Priest and I think did well, he took the ball going forward, took it to

the English line, created problems and George North and Wales scored a

great try from a simple move. Why don't we play rugby, why do really

bit so late, the game was finished? Possibly because Wales didn't start

well. It's just a simple pass when you look at it but the off-load by

Liam Williams, the follow-up play by Jonathan Davies puts George North

there. At times Wales tried forcing things when it wasn't on, under

pressure by England, they made a lot of mistakes and errors, when they

put it together, they have really creative players. I thought I

wouldn't was really good as well. The most shared image last night on

social media was full of George North and the foot in touch. What

was your view? It's quite clear! Split-second decision, there is no

TMO, it's the call from the line to 20 is not in touch. Who is to blame?

The touch judge. Would it have made a difference? Craig Joubert, last

player began, does he not have the jurisdiction to say, can we have

another look at that? The touch judge puts the flag up and the play

stops. Do the rules need to change? The studio seems to think so.

There's got to be something. Trust me, this is not from a bitter Welsh

man, impartial BBC broadcaster. Imagine that is the rugby World Cup

final. Surely will rugby needs to look at... It's a bit is being used

for all sorts of things, a key moment like that, the TMO has to be

used? If it is about a rugby World Cup trophy being handed the one

country and not the other, surely it. Every time the ball goes next to

touch you have to go back and have a look or wasn't in touch, start the

game began. It's unfeasible to do that. Lots of the disciplinary

issues to clear up. Let's take a look at this one. There is Joe

Marler, Rob Evans, here comes an elbow smack in the face. I knew you

would come to me first! You look at it, if we're looking at every single

thing, he is guilty of striking him, realistically. How many weeks? I

think about for days. Realistically, think the referee had seen that he

might have had a word in his is at best. We're in danger of putting

every incident, analysing it, we'll never get on with the game of rugby.

A couple more disciplinary issues. This is one I want to get your view

on, this is Thomas Francis. Wales had a penalty at this point,

overturned. That for me is frustratingly forgot to look where

you are on the field, it is Wales's ball. You mean stupidity? Your five

meters from the try, you need points on the board, he has caught him in

the face, end of story. There is a bit of frustration. You're not going

to get away with it, so it's just stupidity. Reckless, he will get a

band because world rugby are strict with anything around the eyes and

face and so they should be. There was one of the big issue to discuss

and that was when Joe Marler was allegedly making a racial slur at

Sampson low. Samson Lee. Samson Lee has in the past spoken

about how proud he is of his gypsy heritage. Clearly you could hear Joe

Marleau calling him gypsy boy on the ref Mike. What should happen next?

Society takes a dim view, all walks of life, without any territory term,

I suppose this falls into that category. If it was a different

racial term, people would be in no less doubt what should happen. They

are a recognised community, the travelling community. I think he has

two accept the responsibility. This situation has happened, there are

ref Mike 's, the responsibility of playing international rugby now, you

are fully aware of what is said across open mics and he needs to

take that sponsor ability to stop we don't quite know how this gets.

With, in which direction. -- take that responsibility. The RFU want to

draw a line under it, that's what you do, they have said that Joe

Marler apologised and was later reminded of his responsibilities as

an England player by Eddie Jones. The British and macro officials are

aware of the incident and Welsh rugby union says they are pleased

about the apology and that Joe Marler was reminded of his

responsibilities as an international rugby player. Rugby union pride

itself on being a gentlemanly game, it is hard, ferocious, but when you

get issues like this, surely they have to act? I think they will they

do. I don't think there is any debate, but just don't really know

in which direction it's to go. You can't brush it under the carpet. By

apologising, he has accepted it is him, he had to deal with what was

said in the context and it will be interesting to see what they do.

Round of applause for our panel. Wales's under 20s are here. We will

talk to Tom and Dan, that show the highlights of this weekend first.

The England women are on the brink of a Grand Slam. Wales travel to

Ashton Gate, Bristol, looking of a Grand Slam. Wales travel to

their first ever under 20 Triple Crown. Coach Jason strange made

three changes to the team that beat France. Harry Millard moved to

outside centre. Reigning champions England have won just one of their

three games this season but have never lost to Wales on home soil.

COMMENTATOR: Driving towards the line for Wales, Shaun Evans, has he

got it down? A try is awarded. Wales are on the board. The forwards coach

will be delighted with what he has seen so far, and this line-out. Here

is Giles, to Harry Mill ard, what a score, a second try for Wales.

Beautifully conceived. Morgan Williams again directing things at

the base. Getting over the advantage line again. Morgan Williams, Dan

Jones, the ghosts his way through, a third for Wales. A bit of a

paramedics pass that George Perkins did well to take and Wales have

space on the left hand side. A little chip. And it bounces kindly

for him and Giles is over. Expect a grant and shunt from England. A

little bit lateral but now they have some forward momentum. Over the

line, Sam Smith was at the bottom of it. Lovely strong scrum by Wales

again. Harry Kenney for the posts. Great score by the number eight who

has been outstanding to night. What have England got in these closing

stages, it is Giles and this is officially a rout for Wales. A sixth

try, a second for Giles. Dreamtime is for the Wales under 20s. The

metronomic Dan Jones. That is six from six and a first ever away win

in England. A lot of the boys have come back from last year, 13 or 14

of us with an extra year of experience. The unity and the bond

is excellent. Everyone gets on really well. It makes for

performances like that. We know we have each other's backs. Wales go

for the Grand Slam next week. It is live on scrum V.

Well played Wales under 20s, our stars at the bar this evening are

Tom Phillips and Dan Jones. Welcome. How proud are you of not only the

performance but the squad atmosphere you have right now? It is a massive

win for the boys. From the start we have been on food and, the

togetherness of the team epitomises the performances we put in. The

first three games, they were close. But we knew we would come up with a

performance like we did against England. I don't think there is a

better time it could have come really, against the Auld enemy. The

togetherness of the boys, the coaches making us buying fast rugby

came to tipping point and it paid off. Can you describe what it was

like to score some many points with the boot against the Auld enemy? I

suppose the forwards gave me a platform to work off. A lot of

credit goes to them and their hard work during the week. The whole

squad really made my job a lot easier. Tom, it will be a fantastic

week, on the verge of creating some Grand Slam history? Yes, that is the

idea. Had you keep your feet on the ground? All of us have bought into

keeping our feet on the ground. It is in the back of our minds but we

still have another game. We have to put it in place, look at Italy and

put a platform on how to beat them. And hopefully take the Grand Slam.

We wish you the best. Let us move from the bar, the Wales women are

also here. Unfortunately, no win for them against England. I was looking

at the official RBS website and they said you were completely blown away

by England, did you see it like that? Not at all, we put ourselves

on the back foot in the first half, we slipped off a couple of tackles

which put us on the back foot but we had a kick before half-time but then

came out in the second half and we were in the game. To the 80th

minute, we played as if we were in the game. If we had scored in that

last five or ten minutes, we were in a position to win. Definitely a step

forward from a couple of years ago. You have made such big strides? We

showed good defence against France and good defence in the second half

yesterday against England. Going forward and into the last game next

week, it is a definite positive for us. Lovely to see you, thanks to the

Wales women. Let us bring you up-to-date with what happened with

the under 18s, a close one as well. Meeting at the Tolbert athletic

ground, a pretty jer Matic finish. Will Jones scored from a well worked

driving line-out with just two minutes left. Crucially, Wales

missed the conversion. England outside-half James Grayson dropped a

match-winning goal to seal it with the last kick of the game. It

finished 26-27. Let us get the views of Jonathan Davies on Wales and

England and Scotland against France. I thought the first 15 minutes that

England were very good. They created a lot of opportunities. And they

missed those opportunities. Wales were very passive in defence. The

kicking game did not work because they lost the aerial battle. They

lost a few crucial line-out so they had no possession, no field

position. It was a very poor performance. In saying that, they

still created a lot of opportunities. No matter how badly

they play, they snuck in and they could have won at the end. Very

disappointing overall and it showed what they can do in the last 15

minutes when they spread the ball about a bit. Very disappointing, the

performance. But they could have lost by more. Scotland today, it has

been coming for a while with Scotland. The crucial thing today,

they kept going forward and playing and kept the errors out. Because of

that, I thought that got them home. They took their chances well, Hogg

was superb. But France, individually they'd looked good but collectively,

not so good. I can see England beating France next week to win the

Grand Slam. That will go down well in the studio. Thanks to Jonathan

for taking time to talk to us before we came to a, impressive from

Scotland? Impressive today and throughout the tournament. They had

against Italy, I said if they beat them, I could see them beating

France. They play with tempo and pace. And Hogg gets involved in the

game and he has been superb for Scotland. They play with a lot of

width and created a lot of problems for a lot of teams. Against Wales

force huge parts of that game they were the better team. Really

impressed and France today drifted in and out as they often do in the

Six Nations. But the best team certainly one. What did you think of

France post Philippe Saint Andre? I was quite optimistic, I was a big

fan of the replacement after being on the sidelines for some long, he

missed the first couple of kicks and because of that, the shrinks a bit.

France look like a side, I know people will hate the word but

structure. There are a lot of good players in that side, very physical

players but nothing underpinning it. When they move, they are all moving

in different directions. At times they look awful, for a side with so

much ability. In the back of your mind, as France turned up back in

Paris and ruined England party, I cannot see how. It gives the

credibility to do that. Sadly, I agree. What French team will turn

up? You always have to say that with France. I can't remember the last

three or four years a decent French team turning up. 30 or 40 matches

where they have lost structure. Their coach was wonderful for

Toulouse tenures ago, he has got the job too late. The French league is

dominating French rugby thinking. I think international rugby is well

down the pecking order for them. Will the French stop England's Grand

Slam juggernaut? Not a chance. No chance. No. That us turn our

attention to Wales's death team. -- def. No big day than Wales

against England. He will go for the line. And there have been bad days.

It must be a try for England. Today, this greatest of days kicks off here

at the Arms Park where the Welsh deaf team take on their English

counterparts. There are very few national teams. New Zealand, South

Africa and Australia. The English team have improved in the last

couple of years. We are Welsh. They say the medication is sick the 70%

of the game, much of that is hearing, that is the challenge, so

it is a disability and a difficulty and it affects people on the pitch

as well as off it. What level do you need to qualify? To say whether

someone is deaf enough? There is a 25 decibels average, that means

moderate hearing loss, it is surprise and, some people could very

well they might never know they have a hearing loss. Some struggle with

the 25 decibel average, you'd be surprised how many qualify. The

punching, the passion, whatever. We have to keep our focus. That is all

I am going to say. Playing rugby helps me a lot. It helps me interact

with a wider range of people. It makes me feel like I am part of a

genuine community. Quite a few years ago, 2005, I was with the Welsh

Guards, when I returned from tour, I had a few incidents and found I had

hearing loss. I took it badly and did not play rugby for four years,

then came back into it. To find out there were deaf teams, days like

today, Cardiff Arms Park, Wales against England, it raises

awareness. Facebook groups, twitter, anyone who is hard of hearing or

death, please get in touch. -- or who is deaf.

Wales were the better team today. Yes, absolutely convincing. They

were the better back line and overall, the better team. Wales did

what they had to do and we didn't stand up to it. It would have been

nice to win. They were competitive but at the end of the day, the

result went our way and I think we deserved it.

Many congratulations to our deaf team. No Pro12 this weekend but not

long until the big one. Those games live on BBC Wales and S4

C. Back to the RBS Six Nations, Ireland have been very poor in this

year 's championship and yesterday they met Italy. Yellow macro to

score 58 points in a Six Nations game, you have to be happy with your

finishing. That is one thing we haven't been happy with. Especially

in the opposition 22. Today, we were a lot better they.

in the opposition 22. Today, we were will help them. Putting it in the

context of Italy losing players early in the game, some second rows,

that will cause disruptions that make it more difficult to compete.

We were afforded more time and space than in recent weeks and that is a

luxury at Test match level. At least I felt we took advantage of that

luxury and put some good scores together. Being back here

luxury and put some good scores little bit of pressure,

luxury and put some good scores performed well in the championship.

luxury and put some good scores competitive group and they always

want to try and produce their best. I think you saw that today and that

will be the driving factor next week.

will be the driving factor next in situ a year passed the World Cup

and it feels like that. You can feel the story coming to an end, no

catalyst for looking forward. They missed that opportunity against

France and you almost felt, they have to fire above their weight

anyway to compete with the other sides, when they lost that emotion.

No journey, no future about what happens next, you can feel it

windowing away. Today was the end of it already full and Ireland side

that desperately needed a win and to win well. Some of the criticism of

Ireland is how restrictive they have been. Italy were gone in 20 or 30

minutes. They have nothing to hold onto. Bizarrely in this game you

need something to hang onto. Italy next for Wales and Sean has been

taking a closer look. Let us not forget Wales full-back emphatic

victory in the last round of last year 's tournament. Italy have

strength and nothing to lose but this is surely the game where Wales

unleashed their full attacking potential. Traditionally, the Italy

set pieces strong, particularly the maul and Wales's defence has been

improved. An effective long wall which is difficult to defend and

Wales will have to be careful of giving penalties await. If Italy get

close to the line, it is a potent weapon for them. The Italians are

also developing a foil to that as well, a very dangerous ball catching

ability of Sergio pre-season to either run the ten channel or two

fill the void created closer to the ball. Bringing interest runners like

scrum-half 's and Windows. The captain aside, their star has been

Campagnaro, it could be a threat to Wales and his defensive tackling is

very abrasive. He has had some success against Wales. Taking

advantage of loose play behind the defence and spotting an interception

to score a double at the Millennium Stadium. It is going to be eight I.

It is the exploitation of the forward players where Wales can get

some massive plusses. In the mid-channels after long defensive

sets, they get tired and if Wales can build phases they can be

exploited. Look how they have to push off and Finn Russell takes full

advantage. Wales have these runners in abundance. The inform scrum-half

will take full advantage if the Italian front row leave this much

space between them around the fringes. Any line breaks could be

crucially finished off by the potent back three of Wales. Cast your way

back to last years final round of championship, while's -- Wales's

tactics it out perfectly. Great support play from the forwards. This

leaves Italy vulnerable and disorganised. If Wales can play with

tempo and pace, the Italians will drop off after a long championship

and it could be an enjoyable day in Cardiff for the men in red.

That was a great game in Rome last year, I cannot think of a time where

Wales have been involved in a dead rubber on the final Saturday. It has

been a while, that is how competitive they have been in recent

years. But not this time. What would you do? Give some fringe players an

opportunity? I would not drop down bigger, a few month ago, he was BBC

Wales sport personality of the year for his relics in the World Cup.

APPLAUSE He is not perfect and he is not as

good as Rhys Priestland in the things that Rhys Priestland does

well and there are not many people as good as Rhys Priestland -- Rhys

Priestland doing that. He is likely to be our future ten for some time.

We beat England by 30 points with him at ten and 50 points Italy with

him at ten. It is a mindset. When we need to go out and scored tries like

we did and the last ten minutes, we play differently. We need to grab

some of that in our plan. I do think we need a new right wing, I will say

that much. We were in Rome last year and that second-half, when Wales

play, they can play. Do we need an ex-factor? Matthew Morgan had a

great 30 minutes against Fiji, would you go with him? You are probably

fed up of me saying his name, you have a player in your midst, I have

trained with a lot of players, he is one of the most attacking players

Wales have at the moment. A fantastic talent. Why put him in the

squad if you are not even putting him on the bench? It has been

frustrating. I know what he is capable of doing, he gives Warren

Gatland a heart attack at times with what he does but especially for this

game, there is nothing on it, give a guy like Matthew chance and he will

create things. Lots of debate in Rugby clubs around the country over

whether Rhys Webb should start in place of Gareth Davies. We would not

have won at Twickenham without Gareth Davies, fantastic energy

levels but do you think this is the perfect opportunity to bring Rhys

Webb back in? Spoilt for choice, they are quite similar. They both

make a lot of line, they are good around the breakdown and Italy are

very poor at defending that. Rhys Webb has from injury, great to see

him back on the part, he definitely made an impact. A lot quicker in the

breakdown and getting the ball away quicker than Gareth Davies. What a

headache to have, maybe we will see Rhys Webb involved and he could

bring tempo into the game. When Wales are on the front foot, they

are good. I love coming down, you have to remember what has created

this level of expectation, it is the way Wales play, the amount of wins

in the 6-nation. It is about evolving that forward. You cannot

jump to everything being about the last ten minutes. You have to try

and find that balance. That is the challenge, Warren Gatland will be

aware of that challenge. He will start to move the game, they will

just give a different slant on the game. We are out of time but I do

need to say that Tomas Francis has in the last unit -- few minutes has

been cited. My thanks to you all. Also to the Wales under 20s, bring

that Grand Slam home, and to the Wales women. Very disappointing at

Twickenham, no wins but now the nation has to get behind the under

20s, I grand slam is up for grabs, come on boys. Here is their anthem.

Harry Miller ard. That could be a killer blow for Wales.

What a score. He ghosts his way through. England have been

obliterated.