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On this special Valentines six Nations weekend, Paris may be the

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city of love. And he scores! France will take the lead.

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Rome may well be eternally romantic... Is it going to be a

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hattrick? Three tries for Jonathan Joseph. And Cardiff... Well, we love

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it! It is Gareth Davies, all the way to

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the corner. The scrum-half scores. Wales... All the way, what a try!

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What a game we are seeing. The turnaround...

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A very good evening to Scrum V: Six Nations Special. Happy Valentine's

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Day. If you are a rugby romantic you are going to love the show tonight.

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We have three of the smoothest operators in world be. Ali Williams

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is here, Martyn Williams... And we needed a happy Scott on the panel,

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so we invited Mr Andy Nicol! The star at the bar, is Gareth

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Jenkins... And we will hear how the Welsh women are doing and the Welsh

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under 20s. A very good evening. Welcome to a very noisy clubhouse. A

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warm welcome, ladies and gentlemen, his first appearance... Ali

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Williams! During macro good to have you. Martin, you were there

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yesterday, George North said after the game you have to win ugly. It

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was a strange one. I enjoyed the game, but Wales played very badly in

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the first half. They are a resilient side, said side, they overpowered

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Scotland for a 20 minute period. At the end of the day, undefeated in

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the six Nations, if they win the next three games, they win the

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championship. What is the view from New Zealand, the coach said they

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have to dig deep to win matches and that is what they did. We are not

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that natural, Head Coach is, being Kiwis? I thought it was a great

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match. At the start, it was a bit messy, they started getting into the

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rhythm, both sides. I thought the Scots picked up from where they were

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last week. But, they still have that attacking player, it doesn't seem to

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be there really, from bull's-eyes. Go for it, back yourself a bit more.

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What is the Scottish view? Do you feel Wales got lucky yesterday? No,

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I think we were the better side, no doubt about it, Scotland were better

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than they were before. It feels there were more positives from that,

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I know it's picking the bones out of the carcass but there was a lot more

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attacking flair, it was actually back to what we saw in the World Cup

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and that is what was disappointing about last week against England.

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Scotland seemed to regress back into having a lot of ball and not knowing

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what to do. They had attacking intent yesterday and was good, they

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needed to play the full 80 minutes, they dropped for 20 minutes in the

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second half, Wales were able to get their power game and that is

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ultimately what one then the game. If they can play 80 minutes, they

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will be OK. We get stuck into the talking point shortly but first, the

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best of the action, Wales against Scotland from

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This was a tournament meeting between the sides and Wales had won

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the last eight. Warren Gatland kept faith in an unchanged team. With Dan

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Biggar making an rack plus return from his Dublin injury. Scotland

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arrived on the losing streak with two changes. Duncan Taylor in at

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centre and Sean Lamont, called up on the wing. Stuart Hogg made more

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metres and he was red carded. Trying to find his man. Clutching

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it, despite the attentions of Denton. The number eight is coming

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together. Davis, gives a dawn. Rob Evans... It comes to Biggar. Bid

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goes, delicate chip, how does it work? Here comes Davis. And it is

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Gareth Davies! Over the corner, the scrum-half scores. What a try for

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Wales, what a try for Gareth Davies. It came from nothing, it came from

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chaos. 17 phrases for Scotland, great continuity, handling, Richie

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Gray... Laidlaw flips it to Ross Ford.

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Heading towards 20 phases. Up to within five metres, Johnny

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Gray... His brother lends a hand. Russell... And it is a try for

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Scotland! Tommy Seymour! Into the final minutes. The cries

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from Wales... It is a penalty to Scotland and again, very similar

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position to the last one. That is even closer. A chance to lead at the

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break. Laidlaw... Into the red, the last kick of the first half. The

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kick, the Scotland captain, gives the visitors the lead at half-time.

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He delayed and delayed, and was touched on flights, Wales... George

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North, takes the opportunity, he has support. Swerving and weaving. Big

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Art racing up... -- Dan Biggar. Carried on...

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Charteris goes to ground... Tries to get the pass away.

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Wales with the first points of this second half. We are level again,

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inside the principality stadium. And away comes John Hardy. Sneaking

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down the blindside, loses the ball. James... Into the open. Kicking back

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his heels, he is being hunted down. Covering defence... Still but

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Wales... The ball is out. Bradley Davies hazard. Got to go wide. They

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are crying for it out wide. Gareth Davis moves it. A crossfield kick...

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George North... And he can't quite get his hands on a dime out of goes.

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What a chance for a break. What a chase and covering tackle by Duncan

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Taylor. Scotland with a big shove on. Clancy

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having a long look. Wales still have it. Wales still worth a wonderful

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opportunity. Bradley Davies... Crashing through... Wales looking to

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open a gap... And it is Jamie Roberts who gets down. Wales have

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the lead. Wales with the attack again, George

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North... All the way... For the try. Wales surely have it now?

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Tired figures on both sides, trying to find something. Jackson... A

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chance here. Duncan Taylor... He will score for Scotland. They have

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not won the match but they finished with a flourish.

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CHEERING Well Dunwells, we are off the mark.

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Let's get the verdict. -- well done Wales. A good game, I think Scotland

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take credit, they defended very well. Quite a few loose kick chases

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and they put us under pressure. We would keep the ball, I thought Tom

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James running the length... It would have been nice to score that. A win

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is a win, fair play to Scotland. Sometime in Test match rugby you

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have to grind out a win. I said to the boys, you did that. We have

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weathered the storm. The breakdown was a fight. But you know... We got

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a win. It is great, the guys like George and Jamie have in key

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players. Playing great games, the big backs doing well. Massive for us

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going forward, it is good that the top layers are stepping up at this

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level. Overall, we rate Scotland high, it is a great home win. We

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have played a lot of rugby together and we see things. They are patient,

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they waited and when they got their opportunity, they grabbed it. Things

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to be taken from that. You have scored plenty of tries in your

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career but I imagine that felt pretty sweet. A little bit of a

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wait. Yes. It has been a while, so to speak. Nice to get back in, the

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game itself was quick. The first half, it was early turnover

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dominated. The second half, we needed to come out strong, we had 15

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minutes of pressure. We got the points we needed, at the end of the

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day, you have to win ugly. You focus one game at a time but the

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championship is almost back in our hands. We don't have to rely on

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other results, if we win three out of three, it is ours. A little

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chuckle here in the studio. Maybe he thought the question was a little

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bit catty but good to see him on the scoresheet, but Martin, fantastic to

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see Jamie Roberts showing why he is world class. He was immense against

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Ireland. Yesterday, his physicality, he runs his weight, he has six feet

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four and 17 stone and he runs every pound. With the ball, you know the

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damage she does. He is the defensive captain. He sits down every Monday

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with Shaun Edwards and discusses tactics, when you are doing that, he

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lifts the entire team. He has stepped up. In the last year, Jamie

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has become one of the leaders. A lovely touch, the BBC cameras...

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Jamie Roberts at the end of the game went over to Blair Cowan to make

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sure he was OK. He was feeling it. Once a doctor, always a Doctor?

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Maybe he was trying to get some here? What is your view on the Welsh

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backline in general? Look, they have definitely got the skill and talent.

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From an attacking point of view, I don't think George North is 100%, I

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still think his head is playing with him but it's a step in the right

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direction. How do you mean, following his concussion? It takes a

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long time to get over that, subconsciously, it is at the back of

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your mind, last night was a great game for him to step up at

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international level. Defensively, they are taking it at line speed. He

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is the one that is creating the line speed, that is what he is doing,

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leading it, easier for the rest of the team. They are trying to evolve,

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trying to go wide. Against Ireland, they created lots of opportunities.

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They went back to type in the second half, very direct, scoring two

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tries. A little bit confused, with the World Cup in the southern

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hemisphere teams... They are trying to evolve but it will not happen

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overnight. Andy, one of the frustrating things Welsh rugby fans,

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Shane Williams on our side, we had someone who could score a try when

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we needed it, a little of magic. One of the stations is in Welsh rugby,

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where is Shane Williams, the matchwinner. When you saw George

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North yesterday did you think... He is back on form and that is what

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Wales need? You were very lucky to have Shane Williams, they be once in

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a generation player but this break... In the second half, it gave

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George North confidence. He has not had a lot of ball for Northampton.

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Last week in Dublin... He took the try very well. When he gets full

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pace, he is so balanced, he sidesteps, very subtle but I have to

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say, bad defensive structure. As a second row, a back row, you come out

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of the scrum and you have to take the channel. He was expecting to be

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hit by someone and no one laid a finger on him, he too have in stock.

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Tom James, should have scored? It will be disappointed. He had the

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angle. I thought he was in, in the box, at the other end, I thought he

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was in, but he didn't tighten up in the last ten metres. That was a big

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turning point, Scotland were attacking deep in the 22, knocked it

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on, the field possession that led to Jamie Roberts tried but Duncan

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Taylor against Jamie Roberts, Man of the Match, Taylor had a great game.

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The one big change that Scotland made, brilliant for Saracens all

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season and he translated that. With Shane Williams, you had a winger who

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came up wherever he was needed. George North... They are staying on

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the wing, not coming in and looking for work. That is probably...

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Whether it is for Warren Gatland is saying, the coach saying I want you

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to stay out there... Giving them more... You think it might be a

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coaching thing rather than intuition? Potentially or he is

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thinking I will stay out of bed and start coming back in. That is for

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you see the difference, between a world-class... Once in a generation.

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When a bag is not there, those type of players create space. When he is

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not feeling the best, perhaps I will pick on him... LAUGHTER let's get on

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to the Gareth Davies try. I know you boys were in the studio yesterday

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and you watch this a number of times. Different angles. We show you

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an angle that we had, but talk us through it. You were adamant this

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should... A lot of friends... I might not get out here alive but

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this is not a try for me, Gareth Davies is offside, irrelevant what

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happens after. Gareth Davies, C is in front of the kicker, he has two

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stand still... His movement is forward, straightaway, the rest of

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who goes up first... That is irrelevant, he should have been

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penalised. As a foreword, how many times have you watched the game, a

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guy... It goes back to the tent... Doesn't Jamie played on? He may do,

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but it's irrelevant, the penalty should have been given for Scotland

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because... It was a brilliant finish. Interesting, you often hear

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referees... Seven, eight... Stay... He did not do that, great finish,

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Gareth Davies, the pace he showed to get around Tommy Seymour. Martyn

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Williams said this... I am getting slaughtered on social media for...

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And you want him to get slaughtered? Yes! We have got the PM over for a

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reason, George Clancy, it went upstairs. -- the television match

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official. The answer to the first question, no, it wasn't a knock-on.

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We have the official to make the tough decisions and it was tough...

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And there are certain people, we have looked at the world rugby read

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website... Bear with me, the offside player runs behind the team-mate who

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last kicked, touch to carry the ball, the player is put to the

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side... There are lots of people debating this. Is that in English? I

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did say, bear with me. APPLAUSE

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I read the rule book for the first time in 15 years after I retired!

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It's the most cobbler kidnapping in the world and it's ridiculous, and

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they ask us, let's crunch under us, support the game, if the players

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don't understand it, how the hell is anyone else supposed to? What I

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would like to see, but as real confusing but what is wrong with a

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coach challenge? That the onus back on the team that is affected and let

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the coach say, I disagree. Otherwise we are putting it in the hands of

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the referee and we are all just saying, referee, it's your fault. It

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doesn't work. We move on, we accept the fact that Wales won it and we

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move on... Sorry, Scotland. We are going to send Andy home! Let's get

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the view from Sian hurry. Wales had just a little bit too much for a

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Scotland team that played well for large parts of the game. The stepped

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up when it mattered, of the wood was the required result, there is more

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to come from Wales. There was a great deal of pressure in the

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Scottish line-out. He got in front of the jumper in the air, Luke

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Charteris did the damage on the floor, not the greatest technique

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from Alun-Wyn Jones, Charteris and his long limbs and back, through the

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Scottish malt and catches hold of the ball, making it difficult for

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possession. An improved player, the driving maul is a huge threat, he's

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invaluable in the middle, looks how he wraps up the ball with the aid of

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Sam Warburton. He stays in there, putting his body on the line. The

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pressure told on Scotland, this resulted in a set of important

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scrums, they have the opportunity in the wider travel. We need to take

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these a little bit better. But we got a penalty, credit to Sam

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Warburton for going for the scrum. The decision paid off, the doctor

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brought his slide rule to work. The awesome angle picked by the Man of

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the Match gave Wales their second try but there is still homework for

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Wales. Do we need fly half Dan Biggar catching these at the risk of

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injury? We have lost a kicker and there is a lot of bodies on the

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floor and out of the chase line. Gareth Davies needs wider blockers

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for protection. Johnny Gray has a clear run for a charge down here.

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When we come to play England, Steve Borthwick, knowing him as I do, they

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will target this area for a charge down and who could forget after the

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Lloyd Williams kick, what happened in Ireland. Enter George North, the

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movement of the Welsh backs causing a heavy drift from Scotland, he

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comes on a different angle. Greig Laidlaw has to cover the inside if

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the channel is left, John Hardy is flanker, gets on the outside of

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George North and makes a weakened side tackle. The overcook it,

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instead of filling the inside, where Cameron on the blindside, taking

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full advantage of this. The master blaster was back to his best.

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According to Sean Holley, but more work on the finer detail. Martin,

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over the past two years, one thing we learned from Wales, they are

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quick to defend the ball well at the break down. Why are we conceding too

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many turnovers? It's an attacking issue, we are not attacking well,

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Scotland are very hard and Hardy was brilliant at spoiling the ball. An

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area we haven't been as good in the first two games, in turnovers and

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stealing the ball, it used to be our strongest point. What is happening?

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Probably not quite working. There are two guys not in the starting 15.

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The number six, Dan Elliott... Other guys, they have the ability to get

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the ball and then there is Gethin Jenkins, the last decade, how many

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crucial turnovers has he won? We had taken two guys who are crucial out

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of the starting team. He needs to keep playing the starting line-up,

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but definitely, we need to sharpen up, especially against France, the

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French guys, we are looking ahead, they are lazy and there will be

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opportunities. I expect them to go back. You make a great point about

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Gethin Jenkins, many times do we see him trying to win the ball? So many.

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The interesting thing, other countries who play with two

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sevens... It is working for them so why not Wales? It has to suit what

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you are trying to do, the tactics you adopt. In the northern

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hemisphere we follow what they do in the south so often, Australia have

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Pocock and Hooper. It has to be suited to what you are doing. That

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game yesterday, it was right, that there were four sevens in the pit in

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Hardy and Berkeley for Scotland. And with Warburton and to be, that is

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what they are trying to do but against France, that might be

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difficult. It is all about the balance. Too much sometimes, it is

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made about the shirt number, 1-15 you have to be strong over the ball

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and how many terminals come out in the centre? -- how many turnovers.

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It is not just the domain of seven, it used to be but it's no

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across-the-board. Ali, what would you do? I would go further back and

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the style you are playing and defending... If you notice, Southern

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Hemisphere, we will chop tackle, goal, that gives you opportunity to

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turn over. If you are riding high in taking the fiscal contact pie, you

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are eliminating the turnover opportunities, when you talk about

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picking the team and things like that, pick your style in terms of

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how you defend. Watch Australia, they chop tackle, they don't take

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you on physically up top, they take you on so they can get Hooper and

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Pocock. To me, it doesn't matter what your players is, the make-up of

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your players, it's how you want to tackle, do you want to be a turnover

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team are a team that confronts them and forces them back? Look... To

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number sevens, number six is, I dump it makes a difference. Half the

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front row was probably the best at turning it over. There's been a

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really positive move to get Justin Tipuric and Sam Warburton in the

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team in an attacking sense but I don't think it's working. And it has

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worked in the past, 30-3 against England, the front five were

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dominant in that game. When it is an arm wrestle like it was yesterday,

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perhaps they don't stand out as much as we would hope. Andy, can I ask

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you about Scotland, Vern Cotter pooed on a brave face in the post

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match interview, said I don't like losing but what I see is a lot of

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bravery but we need to stop conceding points. No championship

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wins for him, he must be frustrated? Very much so. Nine on the bounce. --

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Vern Cotter put on a brave face. You have to back your process and the

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tactics that you have and that's why it said earlier, yesterday was much

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better. There's a lot to build on for two weeks against deadly, if

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Scotland played like they play yesterday, consistent throughout the

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entire team and game, not have a drop-off, I think the next two games

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are winnable against Italy and France but not only to keep it at

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this level and get better, go back to what they did last week, it could

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be a while until they get their first win. I will take a little walk

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to the bar... I am not having a beer. I want to introduce you to

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this man, Garin Jenkins. What have you got? Good to see you.

:26:19.:26:23.

CHEERING I would say happy Valentine's Day

:26:24.:26:26.

but people will start talking. Have you had a good day? Pretty good,

:26:27.:26:33.

yes. It's never quiet. Let's talk about yesterday. So important that

:26:34.:26:38.

Wales got the win. Immensely important, as the boy said, a great

:26:39.:26:41.

game and I enjoyed being part of it, watching it, it was a great win. And

:26:42.:26:46.

one that we deserved to get in the end. Fantastic newspaper article

:26:47.:26:53.

last week about Scott Baldwin, how impressed have you been? He's played

:26:54.:26:57.

well. The World Cup, he was fantastic. I think... But is if you

:26:58.:27:04.

little things we need to tweak, the boys talking about the contact. I

:27:05.:27:10.

feel that... You know, it's an area, maybe, that the front five can

:27:11.:27:16.

contribute a little bit more. I know a lot of the debate is about the

:27:17.:27:20.

combination on the back row but as Martin said, I think it's a big onus

:27:21.:27:26.

on one, two and three, in that area, especially that France are

:27:27.:27:30.

especially strong, we need to get boys up to do the primary role, and

:27:31.:27:36.

outside the primary role. Very often we talk about strength in depth, and

:27:37.:27:41.

it cost us in the World Cup, let's be honest when we lost players, we

:27:42.:27:45.

found ourselves out of the World Cup so how fantastic is it that we have

:27:46.:27:51.

someone like ones? I'm a believer, it may be simplistic, but it's

:27:52.:27:55.

horses for courses. Ali talks about the chop tackle, it's about

:27:56.:27:59.

processes not personalities. Martin mentioned Gethin Jenkins, you might

:28:00.:28:05.

think I've had a lot of bombs on the head, Rob Evans... He nearly hit me

:28:06.:28:09.

down into Caernarfon from clinically. Condolences another one.

:28:10.:28:18.

He may come in to start. It is a 23 man squad. Gethin Jenkins he will

:28:19.:28:26.

make it messy. He did immensely well to come back. But we have been on

:28:27.:28:30.

the back foot for the first 30 minutes, Conor Murray had an

:28:31.:28:35.

armchair ride at the Aviva Stadium. Laidlaw yesterday... We cannot

:28:36.:28:38.

afford to get that far behind against good teams that will put us

:28:39.:28:43.

to the sword. Maybe there is a train of thought from myself, start with

:28:44.:28:48.

Gethin Jenkins... He is world class. A fantastic surname as well extra

:28:49.:28:53.

mission mark LAUGHTER but what I am saying, look at Rob Evans, Kendall

:28:54.:28:58.

once, when he came on, the Scottish back five yesterday, carried very

:28:59.:29:03.

well. You had Berkeley, hardy... And they carried and they caused us

:29:04.:29:09.

problems. I am not a statistical man. You can get wrapped up in

:29:10.:29:13.

statistics but I think people like Ken Owens... They get us going

:29:14.:29:21.

forward. Horses for courses. England got off to a winning start at

:29:22.:29:25.

Murrayfield last week, could they match that in Italy? England rocked

:29:26.:29:30.

up in Rome having never lost a Six Nations match to Italy. Eddie Jones

:29:31.:29:36.

made three changes, Mako Vunipola coming into the starting line-up.

:29:37.:29:46.

This man caught the eye in the first round, becoming the first Italian to

:29:47.:29:52.

score a try, conversion, penalty, and drop goal in the single match.

:29:53.:29:57.

COMMENTATOR: Again England go high. Mike Brown got a hand in. Italy are

:29:58.:30:13.

under real pressure in front of their posts. England have the

:30:14.:30:17.

advantage, they have a turnover opportunity as well. Billy Vunipola.

:30:18.:30:25.

Owen Farrell on the switch, George Ford. Jackson text with the touch

:30:26.:30:37.

judge, try awarded. Parisse controls it and picks up and charges at Ben

:30:38.:30:45.

Youngs. Penalty advantage Italy. Robshaw with a strong tackle. He

:30:46.:30:51.

goes on his own. Do not show me that or I will

:30:52.:31:02.

penalised you for a high tackle. Delicately puts over the penalty.

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The gap narrows. That is a good kick by Jack Nowell.

:31:13.:31:38.

Bellini gets the pass away and it's a simple gift. He won't score an

:31:39.:31:49.

easier try than that for anybody. Good control in the maul. An arty

:31:50.:31:58.

advantage for England. Care comes away with it. Jonathan Joseph with

:31:59.:32:00.

try number two. Overthrown. Parisse comes away with

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it. Instantly involved. Leave it! Knock-on. Excellent work by Joe

:32:23.:32:30.

Launchbury. Paul Hill comes away with it. And now the backs. Joseph.

:32:31.:32:38.

Will it be a hat-trick? Three tries for Jonathan Joseph.

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Advantage, offside. That is a penalty advantage for England.

:32:49.:32:55.

Getting over the advantage line. Beautiful off-load. This is more

:32:56.:33:04.

like it. We got the result and it was satisfying. We knew we would

:33:05.:33:10.

open them up in the last 20. No doubt it was always going to be

:33:11.:33:13.

difficult at the start, we let them back into the game with a few silly

:33:14.:33:18.

errors and discipline is a huge thing to work on. We have been with

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the BBC out in Rome many times, Italy against England, Scotland,

:33:24.:33:29.

Wales, Ireland, they start well but then they fall apart. That was a

:33:30.:33:35.

competent performance by England which got better as the game went

:33:36.:33:41.

on. Italy had the chance to take the lead and they missed it and that has

:33:42.:33:46.

been symptomatic of their play. His kicking leaves a lot to be desired.

:33:47.:33:50.

Two minutes later they threw a horrendous pass for Joseph's first

:33:51.:33:56.

try. Then England got confidence, Danny Care had a good influence and

:33:57.:34:01.

so did the bench. Ultimately they finished it off. That's a great win

:34:02.:34:05.

away from home and the confidence that will give them, scoring those

:34:06.:34:10.

tries and the impact of the bench, two games without conceding a try.

:34:11.:34:16.

That is worrying when they have that strength in depth. Unfortunately

:34:17.:34:23.

they did look good. They seem to have signed a shrewd coach in Eddie

:34:24.:34:28.

Jones. The bench looked really strong, similar to Wales yesterday,

:34:29.:34:31.

the bench makes a massive difference. They tried to play open

:34:32.:34:36.

and expansive rugby. I think we will get a lot of joy out of that. I

:34:37.:34:43.

think they looked dangerous. Watson was phenomenal on the wing. There is

:34:44.:34:52.

a balance issue in the back row. You played against Eddie Jones and his

:34:53.:34:56.

sides, was that an astute appointment? What have you made of

:34:57.:35:01.

the opening couple of weeks? It's a decision that they went within terms

:35:02.:35:04.

of going out of the national pool and they have good coaches in

:35:05.:35:12.

England. You can see what he has done, both of the victories were

:35:13.:35:18.

defence orientated. Not by the back row, as much, more by the props.

:35:19.:35:25.

That's where their points are coming from. That is the easiest thing for

:35:26.:35:29.

a coach to implement straightaway. He has got a huge part to play, the

:35:30.:35:34.

defensive coach. They looked good. They can only get better. He is

:35:35.:35:40.

bringing some depth. Like any southern hemisphere coach, they want

:35:41.:35:44.

time, they are used to having time to build and develop the culture,

:35:45.:35:49.

structure, and mindsets within their players. Vern has had it for a few

:35:50.:36:01.

years and they are used to having chance to develop things and that is

:36:02.:36:05.

what he is looking for. The English press won't give him that time,

:36:06.:36:11.

trust me. Our reporter has had a busy weekend rounding up the under

:36:12.:36:14.

20s and the women. The under-20s had a storming win

:36:15.:36:24.

last weekend, scoring four tries in Dublin was Marco Donadel Stadium.

:36:25.:36:28.

Here in Colwyn Bay this week, the Welsh coach has made three changes

:36:29.:36:30.

to the team who went out in Ireland. The driving line-out has proved a

:36:31.:36:42.

potent weapon for Scotland and it is proving so again. Rumbling towards

:36:43.:36:47.

the touchline. A try is surely inevitable. They get over the line

:36:48.:36:51.

and Matt Smith urges down for the men in blue. Wales are going to

:36:52.:36:56.

Scotland what Scotland have done to them, pushing closer to the Scottish

:36:57.:37:02.

line. They sprint over, and it is Shaun Evans, the Welsh openside. The

:37:03.:37:07.

Scots powered over again just before the break, McCullen was the scorer.

:37:08.:37:15.

Wales hit back just after half-time. COMMENTATOR: Jones, out to Millard.

:37:16.:37:22.

Lovely pass. The youngster cuts back inside. Joe Thomas, inches away from

:37:23.:37:26.

the try line as Scotland's defence desperately. Who wants it? Surely

:37:27.:37:33.

the try is inevitable. There it is, Tom Phillips bundles over from close

:37:34.:37:43.

range, the captain. Showing a clean pair of heels to the defence, Wales

:37:44.:37:45.

are back on level terms. A penalty two minutes from time by

:37:46.:37:53.

the replacement Billy McBride was the clincher. He had been on the

:37:54.:37:59.

pitch for less than a minute. The courage and the character that the

:38:00.:38:04.

players showed, particularly in the second half in difficult

:38:05.:38:08.

circumstances, lots of inexperienced players tonight did themselves

:38:09.:38:11.

proud. For Billy to do that with a minute to go is testament to him,

:38:12.:38:17.

you know. That win puts Wales second in the table behind the leaders

:38:18.:38:22.

France. The only sides with a 100% record in the championship so far.

:38:23.:38:30.

Les Bleus Will be the visitors to Wales in a few weeks' time.

:38:31.:38:42.

The Welsh women were looking to bounce back from their defeat in

:38:43.:38:47.

Ireland last weekend, the Wales coach Rhys Edwards has made four

:38:48.:38:52.

changes to the starting 15 and Phillips was the captain for the

:38:53.:38:56.

first time in the absence of the injured Rachael Taylor. Scotland

:38:57.:39:01.

took the early lead, and Wales hit back with a converted try. The Welsh

:39:02.:39:05.

pack showing their strength with a driving maul. Harris crossed for the

:39:06.:39:11.

opening try. Wilkins added the extras. The centre Wilkins put the

:39:12.:39:17.

home side further ahead with a penalty and despite Scotland

:39:18.:39:21.

crossing for a try just after half an hour, the conversion would prove

:39:22.:39:25.

to be their last points of the game with Wales going into the break with

:39:26.:39:29.

a 15-10 lead after Hannah Jones making a great run on the wing to

:39:30.:39:36.

cross-border second. Wilkins increased the Welsh advantage to

:39:37.:39:39.

eight points before they celebrated their third try of the day. -- to

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cross for their second. A much-needed win for the Welsh team.

:39:47.:39:50.

Very pleased and obviously disappointed about last week 's

:39:51.:39:54.

score. Do come back and bounce back with a win is massive. No change in

:39:55.:40:00.

the table as Wales remain fourth. Their next opponents in a fortnight

:40:01.:40:02.

France stay at the top. APPLAUSE A clean sweep for Wales, the under

:40:03.:40:19.

20 team, and the men and women winning. Good evening. Is it true

:40:20.:40:25.

you have come out of the ice Bath? We had four minutes. Just four? It

:40:26.:40:33.

was so cold this week. You have won today, has there been much

:40:34.:40:36.

contemplation in the week in the camp about the defeat and getting

:40:37.:40:40.

off to a winning start? We absolutely had to win and we are

:40:41.:40:46.

chuffed with the result, 23-10. Just really happy, we could improve our

:40:47.:40:50.

performance in places and we have to improve going to France in a few

:40:51.:40:57.

weeks' time. What sort of improvements off the top of your

:40:58.:41:02.

head from today? We gave away too many turnovers, and we made a few

:41:03.:41:06.

handling mistakes. We still played some really nice rugby out wide. We

:41:07.:41:11.

got a few tries as well. Wonderful. We wish you the best. Jason Strange

:41:12.:41:19.

was on that report and he is back here. A fantastic end to the team?

:41:20.:41:24.

Fantastic for the team and for Billy, I'm pleased with the wins

:41:25.:41:28.

against Scotland and Ireland, and it sets it up nicely for the French

:41:29.:41:32.

game. Players deserve a lot of credit for performing really well in

:41:33.:41:36.

the first two games, and we need to take that forward for the rest of

:41:37.:41:40.

the tournament. Great that Robbie was there as well. Yes, Billy,

:41:41.:41:46.

making his debut was a fantastic moment and that is something he will

:41:47.:41:50.

remember for a long time. Did you invite the BBC cameras into the

:41:51.:41:55.

dressing room? You might regret it. Amazing scenes. You do have a

:41:56.:42:00.

remarkable team spirit? It's important that the players enjoy

:42:01.:42:03.

those moments and we encourage that, we want the team spirit to be very

:42:04.:42:10.

good. It was epitomised on Friday evening. You are worried about what

:42:11.:42:16.

we have got! Yes. You are wondering what on earth the cameras picked up.

:42:17.:42:19.

Thank you for joining us. Let's round up the Pro12 action. The lead

:42:20.:42:28.

changed hands six times at Rodney Parade on Thursday. They temporarily

:42:29.:42:33.

went to the top of the table. The Dragons went into the break with a

:42:34.:42:37.

1-point lead thanks in part to this try from Ashton Hewitt. The Connacht

:42:38.:42:45.

's foreword power told in the end. They came away with a narrow win.

:42:46.:42:50.

The Scarlets kept their hopes alive on Friday and they looked in control

:42:51.:42:53.

Eoin Morgan Alain Prost after five minutes. -- crossed. That will be so

:42:54.:43:07.

disappointing. Very welcome. They came from 19-6 down to take the lead

:43:08.:43:11.

and they needed a late penalty in another close finish. He succeeded

:43:12.:43:17.

with three so far. That is the most important of the lot. It puts the

:43:18.:43:28.

Scarlets ahead. Another tight finish this weekend as Treviso celebrated

:43:29.:43:31.

their first win of the season which came at the expense of the Blues.

:43:32.:43:38.

There is a man over now. Scully in the corner. It's a try for the

:43:39.:43:43.

Blues, finally. The Blues failed to take several chances in the second

:43:44.:43:46.

half and the referee finally lost patience with their scrum. That's

:43:47.:43:50.

enough to win them another penalty. The referee is gone beneath the

:43:51.:44:01.

posts. That is a penalty try. Sam Davies scored 16 points for the

:44:02.:44:06.

Ospreys as they celebrated a fine win in Cork this afternoon. This try

:44:07.:44:09.

gave them the lead for the first time. There is something on here.

:44:10.:44:16.

Sam Davies plays it to Watkin and he stretches into the corner. Rhys Webb

:44:17.:44:22.

made an appearance off the bench but his return was cut short after an

:44:23.:44:28.

accidental clash of heads. The Ospreys now close the gap on

:44:29.:44:32.

sixth-place Munster but the top is still incredibly tight with a point

:44:33.:44:38.

separating the top four. The Blues and Dragons remain ninth and 10th

:44:39.:44:41.

respectively. Great to see Rhys Webb back and we hope his head injury

:44:42.:44:47.

isn't too bad. Let's get back to the Six Nations, Paul O'Connell retired

:44:48.:44:50.

from international rugby this week and Ireland went to Paris looking

:44:51.:44:54.

for their first win of the tournament. Ireland arrived in the

:44:55.:44:59.

City of love in rude health with fit again Sean O'Brien and Rob Carney

:45:00.:45:04.

returning to the starting 15. And the talismanic number ten Jonny

:45:05.:45:08.

Sexton recovered from his knock against Wales. Four changes upfront

:45:09.:45:12.

and two behind. Still advantage Ireland. O'Brien.

:45:13.:45:20.

Murray looks out towards Sexton. That is a safe catch. No advantage.

:45:21.:45:33.

We will go back for the penalty. They drop the ball, so we will go

:45:34.:45:57.

back to the penalty. That is a completely late cheap shot. Yes, and

:45:58.:45:59.

right in front of the referee. Straight by Sexton. Sexton, coming

:46:00.:46:23.

Dave Carney's way. Here he is again. He has been stripped and has lost it

:46:24.:46:27.

forward. It's advantage being played. Henshaw sets it up.

:46:28.:46:35.

Sexton, very safely... He slid delivers it and Tommy O'Donnell

:46:36.:47:08.

heads for the French midfield. There is the switch. O'Donnell has worked

:47:09.:47:15.

well. A Wacom France. Here is Fekitoa. Did that go forward? It

:47:16.:47:26.

did. But at last France break loose on turnover ball. Nearly up to the

:47:27.:47:35.

70 minute mark and France have their best opportunity. It comes out

:47:36.:47:43.

quickly. Maxime has scored and the conversion is easy and France will

:47:44.:47:50.

take the lead. Is that the championship defence over for

:47:51.:47:55.

Ireland? It leaves it very hard, obviously. No wins in the first two

:47:56.:48:01.

games. We may have to reassess but I think if we look at the second half,

:48:02.:48:05.

we just did not quite get the dominance that we had in the first,

:48:06.:48:09.

and we could not turn the dominance of the first half in two more

:48:10.:48:15.

points. It's hard to know the answer to that question but we look at it

:48:16.:48:20.

as a massive missed opportunity. Yes, that's exactly what Joe Smit

:48:21.:48:23.

said after the game, they had chances and they should have taken

:48:24.:48:27.

them. This is how the Six Nations table looks. Scotland and Italy are

:48:28.:48:39.

still looking for their first wins. England are unbeaten and looking

:48:40.:48:43.

formidable. Decimated by injuries, Ireland, and Joe Smit said in the

:48:44.:48:47.

second half they were isolated far too often. And the French, that was

:48:48.:48:52.

pretty physical? They targeted Sexton illegally on some occasions,

:48:53.:48:58.

pretty old school. That is just a cheap shot. Hopefully he will be

:48:59.:49:03.

banned for that. That is dangerous. It is physical and that's what you

:49:04.:49:07.

get from the French. The Top 14 is attritional. Ireland have lost many

:49:08.:49:12.

players before the tournament and key players as well. Its last man

:49:13.:49:16.

standing for them going forward. They are in a tough place. The

:49:17.:49:21.

French are an emotional side and that's what we love about them. The

:49:22.:49:27.

physicality purely comes from emotion. They know Jonny Sexton and

:49:28.:49:31.

they have seen him and played against him and they targeted that.

:49:32.:49:36.

But I think they just really lifted themselves physically. They are

:49:37.:49:42.

excited and they want to do something under their new coach.

:49:43.:49:45.

Whether he is the right option, I don't know, but they want to do

:49:46.:49:50.

something. He has been around for a long time and he had success while

:49:51.:49:53.

back, probably not much current success. But it's a beautiful place.

:49:54.:49:59.

LAUGHTER You are happier talking about the

:50:00.:50:03.

geography and the landscape and the red wine rather than the rugby.

:50:04.:50:07.

APPLAUSE Given what we have seen there, that

:50:08.:50:12.

bit of tape where you see the French brutality, will they be lining up a

:50:13.:50:18.

few of the Welsh boys? You always get that physicality but there is

:50:19.:50:22.

legal and illegal physicality. That was obviously illegal. They were

:50:23.:50:26.

very abrasive and you are going to get that, but so are Wales. It will

:50:27.:50:31.

be a big physical encounter week on Friday. Going back to Ireland, a bit

:50:32.:50:37.

like Wales and Scotland, Ireland don't have the same pool of players

:50:38.:50:41.

of England and France. As soon as you get a few injuries you are

:50:42.:50:45.

digging deep into your resources and they are finding it difficult. They

:50:46.:50:49.

had huge success, winning the Championship the last few years.

:50:50.:50:55.

They are not going to win from this stage. They just need to get people

:50:56.:50:59.

back onto the field of play, Sean O'Brien should have given them a

:51:00.:51:05.

lift. The provinces are not playing great at the moment, so none of them

:51:06.:51:09.

have got into the quarterfinals of the Champions Cup. There are a few

:51:10.:51:12.

questions about Ireland and they have not had these questions for the

:51:13.:51:16.

past few years. It will be interesting to see how they react.

:51:17.:51:20.

You have some battles with the French over the years? Just a

:51:21.:51:25.

couple. Will they try to rough them up? They are very physical but I

:51:26.:51:31.

really believe that if we get messy and the contact area they are good

:51:32.:51:35.

on the front foot. Was that really you?! APPLAUSE

:51:36.:51:43.

You didn't see the changing room after. I think if we make it messy

:51:44.:51:52.

and test the temperament, on the front foot at the set piece, they

:51:53.:51:56.

can be effective, but if our front five carry in the first 25 minutes,

:51:57.:52:01.

get the French on the back foot and step outside the threats from the

:52:02.:52:05.

defenders, we can get them on the back foot and test their

:52:06.:52:10.

temperament. Did you edit that? Was that really you? I have my own

:52:11.:52:12.

production firm! Very good. Now, here on the Six

:52:13.:52:26.

Nations special we like to look at the off the wall moments. This is

:52:27.:52:32.

Did You See That? There are still fire breathing Dragons in North

:52:33.:52:37.

Wales. Wales is still the land of Song, but only just. Before

:52:38.:52:41.

attempting a solo, make sure you know the words. He has just ruined

:52:42.:52:52.

Neil Diamond's Sweet Caroline. We know that Edwards had a Chinese last

:52:53.:52:56.

night, there he is, putting his order in. Anyone spot Gavin Henson

:52:57.:53:05.

running the line? Nice legs. Jake Ball takes a penalty for Italy

:53:06.:53:10.

today. And love was in the air at the stadium is this young man

:53:11.:53:14.

proposed, we don't have your names, but get in touch and we will offer

:53:15.:53:25.

your congratulations. APPLAUSE How cameras are watching you and it

:53:26.:53:30.

could be you next time. We are here after Wales versus France.

:53:31.:53:33.

Interesting talk about discipline, that is the thing that Shaun Edwards

:53:34.:53:37.

has drilled into the side. It's a big thing, when he first came in, I

:53:38.:53:44.

can remember a few guys like Alun Wyn Jones and Lee Byrne getting

:53:45.:53:47.

yellow cards and they were hung out to dry. You can give the odd

:53:48.:53:52.

technical penalty away but they won't put up with ill discipline.

:53:53.:53:58.

Jonathan Davies and Luke Charteris are currently heading back to France

:53:59.:54:02.

where there will be matches. Do you think they will play them, the

:54:03.:54:07.

French clubs? They'd every care that Wales have a match. No, that is the

:54:08.:54:11.

structure. -- they don't really care. The French word really care. I

:54:12.:54:23.

have alliances with Racing. You have to look at who governs and owns the

:54:24.:54:27.

players and the control you have over them. The French Top 14 and the

:54:28.:54:31.

French league is a runaway train at the moment. Somebody has to do

:54:32.:54:35.

something. We will see what happens. This is the week that Gatland wants

:54:36.:54:44.

his players in Wales so that they don't go off to play for the French

:54:45.:54:48.

plebs. That is what the national coaches want but only certain ones

:54:49.:54:57.

can get it. -- the French clubs. We will have the same in Scotland,

:54:58.:55:00.

players will go to England and France and have to play. These have

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been two really physical weekends. The rugby has not been fantastic but

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really physical. Have you seen Luke Charteris, has he improved since

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going to France? I think so. In the past two years he has got a bad

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book. He now has confidence when running with the ball which is

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always a sign of when a player feels his body, so to speak, in terms of

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his body. He is running with the brawl which is an amazing sight,

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like a drunken giraffe! -- with the ball. It's also the set piece that

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has really developed, in the line-outs he is probably one of the

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most destructive in the defensive line. Especially in the French

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league. In the all on the scrum, the line-out, those arms are getting

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into places that should not really be there. He causes havoc. I think

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Gatland is concerned that the guys are playing away, to be honest. He

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will vouch for this, they don't train as well as they should in

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France. He can vouch for this! They are not as professional off the

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field and that is where they fall down and he is concerned about the

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Welsh players because it's a big part of the well set up. I think

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Luke Charteris is the one player whose game has definitely developed.

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-- the Welsh setup. We have just seen that head injury, if he is fit

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would Gatland bring him back in? Fairly soon, he had 20 minutes today

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and he will probably get a game next week. Probably on the bench. Davies

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has been in a good period since Rhys Webb has been out. Rhys Webb needs

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longer. We will reassess after the French game. It is like a David

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Beckham metatarsal worry for the Welsh public about Dan Biggar, are

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the Welsh too reliant on him? We saw in Dublin that Rhys Priestland can

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still do a good job. He has been much maligned over here for some

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reason. I always rated him highly. Dan Biggar was quiet yesterday. What

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you saw yesterday was great, while Britain and Alun Wyn Jones and Dan

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Biggar were quiet but Robbins stepped up. He is a class player. I

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need three country titles, who will win? Just pick one! The Welsh. One

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country to win the title. England. BOOING

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What?! Can sell his BBC contract! I said before the Six Nations that it

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would be Wales and I will keep saying Wales. CHEERING

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Thank you very much indeed. Thank you for joining us. That's it from

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us, we will see you after France. Happy Valentine's Day. Love is in

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the air!

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