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Good afternoon and welcome once again to the Barclays ATP World

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Tour Finals. Group B is back in action today and coming up this

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afternoon we have Mardy Fish against Jo-Wilfried Tsonga. It is a

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must-when match if they want to get to the semi-final. That is in a few

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minutes, but yesterday at this point we were talking about Andy

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Murray having his best season to date. 24-hours later, it is a

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different story. He has an injury that could end his season

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prematurely. He had the trainer on at the end of the first set. He

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battled on, his movement was hampered and his serve was not at

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the usual high standard. He was beaten in straight sets by David

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Ferrer. He was just too good yesterday. There are questions

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about whether he will carry on because, in the press conference

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after the match, he mentioned that he may have to withdraw from the

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tournament. The managing director of the event joins us. Chris, what

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is the latest as far as Andy is concerned? I thought he was hitting

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the ball might really well. Some of the shots that he hit were the

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hardest forehands I have seen. He was not as good as he has been over

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the last six months. David Ferrer is the worst player to play when

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you feel like that. It was a very tough match. He is not in the top

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four, but he is a player that none of the top players want to play. It

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was much tougher than people thought. I spoke to him this

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morning, he is going to wake up and see how he goes. He can inform us

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right up until tomorrow. I have a feeling he will play, but we will

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wait and see. The fact that he said it was asked drain that he picked

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up over a week ago does not bode well, does it? -- a strain. I think

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you cannot read anything into any comments or what happened in the

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past. You have to take today and see what happens. We hope he comes

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out to play. The advantage of this event is that it is the top eight

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players in the world. Every match up his brilliant, but obviously we

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want him to play. With the top eight There are no

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easy matches, are there? If they were to withdraw, what is the

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scenario? We have an Alternate, Janko Tipsarevic has had his best

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season. He is waiting. If Andy pulls out, Janko Tipsarevic will

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play. If Andy pulls out in the match, which I don't think he will,

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but if he did, Janko Tipsarevic would play their last match on

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Friday. Tim, you have been in this

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situation, haven't you? Yes, in Hanover in Germany. I do not think

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I was necessarily the first quarter net. -- alternate. I happened to be

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in London, I got the call at lunchtime, flew straight to Hanover

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and ended up playing one match. There are a lot of unknowns at this

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stage. Andy will obviously want to take as long as he can and give

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himself the best opportunity of retiring, and then make his

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decision at the last moment. That is not ideal for Chris and the

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tournament, or for Janko Tipsarevic if he is coming in, but he has to

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give himself that best chance if he is fit. Luckily, he is still in the

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tournament. Also, the way he played yesterday, he will need to be

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better than that to take on the likes of Tomas Berdych and Djokovic.

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Obviously, but that will be dictated by his injury. He was up a

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break of serve, but we focused a lot on his first serve percentage.

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That was down all the time, and I think that was related to the

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injury. We can see him arriving today. He does not really benefit

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from going out and hitting balls. He has had enough balls in his life

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and enough this year. -- he has hit enough. You do not think he would

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even try to practise today? I don't think so. What does he have to

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gain? He could test the injury. think he could tested tomorrow. --

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test it tomorrow. You have at a 24- hours ahead of you, haven't you?

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The yes. But it is just a brilliant atmosphere here. We have this match

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coming up, Mardy Fish and Jo- Wilfried Tsonga. Tsonga was a

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finalist at Queen's, played against Andy Murray, beat Federer at

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Wimbledon. Hugely charismatic French player, the best season he

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has ever had. Both players need to win this match so it will be

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competitive. Tonight we have Nadal and Federer playing. We have a long

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way to go. Every match is a great match in

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this format. This arena is lovely. And you have a great crowd.

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Incredible crowd. I have friends who have come here who have never

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seen live tennis before. The one thing they do not realise, in this

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setting, is how dynamic and physical the game is and the

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loudness of the ball being hit. It is attracting not just tennis fans

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but sports fans. I think it is definitely the best the rat in

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men's tennis we have ever had. -- the best period. Four top marquee

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names in one period. It is great. We appreciate your time coming up

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here. You are a very busy man. I hope it works out for you and Andy

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tomorrow. Tim, we have this match to look forward to and the players

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are getting ready. It is a must- when match if they are going to

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make it to the semi-final. Very much so. That is the beauty of this

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format. They both lost in their opening matches but they have both

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had opportunities to win. There is nothing wrong with their games but

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they know they have to come out and keep the tournament alive. I enjoy

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watching both of these guys playing. They both have an attacking element.

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They are both a little unpredictable. I am sure we're

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going to see a lot of exciting tennis has up it has been the end

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of an era with Mardy Fish being the top right American. It is no longer

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a Andy Roddick. It is a reflection of what a great

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here he has had. It is a great achievement, certainly, at this

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stage. Agreed couple of years, in a way,

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for Mardy Fish. He has reassessed his approach to the game. He has a

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new fitness trainer, he has lost a lot of weight.

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We will just pause for the introduction.

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MUSIC: "London Calling" by The Clash.

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 54 seconds

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Ladies and gentlemen, Jo-Wilfried SUE BARKER: The players are on

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court and about to get under way. This is group be in action today.

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Tsonga against Fish. And then tonight we will have Rafael Nadal

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against Roger Federer. They both came through in three sex from

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their matches on Sunday. -- 3 sets. Novak Djokovic went right down to

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SUE BARKER: That was a nice point. It is not really much different -

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there is no wind to worry about. Djokovic came through against Tomas

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Berdych yesterday. We can see how he saved that match point against

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Berdych. It happened at 6-5 on the He missed what look like an

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elementary forehand. He got the shot that he wanted and then just

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do it really did not pull the trigger. And you do not get many

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chances, do you, against the world No. 1? He won that game and totally

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dominated the match. You can see by Djokovic's reaction at the end.

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There was a huge amount of relief. Djokovic has struggled with his

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shoulder, his game was a little patchy at the start. It is the sign

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of a great champion, he won when he was not at his best. From birdied's

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point of view he will be frustrated. His game is in good shape, he is

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playing Murray. He will believe that he is still very much in the

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tournament. Talking about Murray's injury,

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Djokovic has had a massive problem with his shoulder. It is like a

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scene out of Casualty. It is. If you can play three tough sets

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against Rafa Nadal and end up losing 7-6 in the third, I am sure

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that will help with a few of his doubts. He will really have to be

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fully fit today. Tsonga is not someone you can take lightly so it

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will be interesting to see who comes out on top. This surface is

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tough to play on. It is impossible to play if you have a significant

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injury because the surface is quite sticky, you really have to pick up

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your feet. The rallies are not always going to be short. Most

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importantly, you're playing against the other best players in the world

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and you really have to be firing on all cylinders. I think Fish will be

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slightly disappointed because, again, he had an opportunity

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against Nadal. That was probably one of the toughest matches of this

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group. This is one where he will feel he has chances.

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We talk about Tsonga and his flair, when he is good he is really good.

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That is right. He did not really sure up in the first set against

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Federer, but Federer played very well. He got a break of serve early

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in the second then dominated. Then it was nip and tuck in the first

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nine games. He was playing some great tennis. Then he missed a very

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easy forehand volley, makes an unforced error and then suddenly he

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is 0-40. That is not a good position against Federer. The

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person who wins this match is right back in contention.

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Federer and Nadal have won in three sets. Is there a danger that either

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of them might not make the semi- finals? With this format, we have

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had our calculators out in the past, and this year will be no different.

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Tsonga won so many fans at Wimbledon during the summer. His

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match with Federer was in lots of ways the match of the tournament.

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Federer was up two sets. Tsonga is one of the very few players where

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Federer does not miss his family feel in control because of his

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explosive power. He can make life difficult for you with his serve

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and his forehand. When he has those hot streaks, as he did at Wimbledon,

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the final three sets, Federer did not do a lot wrong. He did not have

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a break point in the final four sets. It could be a close one today

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if they head to head is anything to go by. Tsonga must also be tough to

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Tough to coach, so much so that he does not have a coach! I think it

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is a balancing act. Who could take him on? I think again it is one of

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those scenarios where probably working and travelling with

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somebody part-time, I don't think he would react so well if he had

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somebody there 24-7. He has to be looking to hit the first serve,

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keep an eye on his first serve percentage, then looking to

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dominate with his forehand. His backhand is not the best,

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technically, and he does not want to hit too many of them, he wants

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to use his athletic ability and dominate with his forehand. S years

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ago when Andy Murray did not have a coach, everybody said, he has to

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find a coach, but Tsonga, do you think he should have a coach?

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Probably not at the moment. There is no right or wrong, it is about

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what the individual wants, and there was a Swiss player that did

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not do too badly without a coach for about four or five years! It is

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finding what works best for years. He won indoors, he won in Vienna,

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in the final in Paris, so he has been playing very, very well. He

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did not play badly in his first match in. As far as Mardy Fish is

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concerned, we talked a few years ago about this, he made a

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commitment to tennis, got a super fit, lost a lot of weight. That is

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right, and look at the impact on his game. He is moving so much

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better, and I think it has made him more explosive moving forward. He

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is looking to finish the point at the net. He has a good volleying

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technique, a good first serve, and I think when you look at the match-

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up, Fish has got to make sure that he is explicit in his game. If

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Tsonga is dominating him and he is doing the running, that does not

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suit him. Absolutely. As far as world rankings go, it is the top

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eight that are here. Janko Tipsarevic is the world number nine,

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he will be sitting, possibly practising harder today than he

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would... With all due respect he is probably hoping a few people to

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list their ankles and smack he is ready to go out and play. He is

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itching to get out if he can. is your money on? I would go for

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Tsonga. We will see. It promises to be a great match. Enjoy it with us.

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Andrew Castle is already in the commentary box.

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ANDREW CASTLE: Good afternoon, this is an intense match, as you said.

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Some of the afternoon crowd will be disappointed not to see one of the

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big four, if you well, Djokovic, Nadal, Murray, Federer, but I think

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this has the makings of a match well worth watching. There is a lot

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on the line, not least the $120,000, about �70,000, for each match win

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in the round-robin stages. But it is not about that for these guys,

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it is about keeping alive the chances of getting to the semi-

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final of this event. Just the top eight in the world, every match is

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a top one. Mardy Fish serving to Jo-Wilfried Tsonga. Must-win for

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 54 seconds

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A bit of a war mob drill, wasn't It should be an attractive match to

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watch, people should be at the net, it is not so much a Murray-Ferrer

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contest, with both of them grinding from the back of the court. That is

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right, there is definitely an unpredictability about both of

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He has showed a lot of variety this year, Tsonga, on the backhand side.

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If he has enough time to get both hands on it, that is his favourite

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shot, but he has been hitting a lot of one-handed backhand passes as

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well. A couple of break points here, this would not be a good start for

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 54 seconds

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That is a donation from the racket Certainly a donation. I would

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question his strategy early on in that rally, always going to the

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Fish backhand. Fish has a great two-handed backhand, but something

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of a suspect forehand so I would be looking to target the forehand side

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It was the forehand side that let Mardy Fish down in the final tie-

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break against Rafael Nadal putt days ago has. Just in the tie-break

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at the end, it went -- two days ago. Third break point in his opening

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 54 seconds

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Got a relatively short reply off that second serve, and getting good

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Fish's game-plan he has to be looking to end the point at the net,

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take time away from Tsonga. If they get into this baseline exchanges, I

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Well, it wasn't a bad location for the serve, they had a bit of work

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on it, he elected to get the first serve in, but Tsonga had enough

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time. Just picking him off down the line. A nicely played point. For a

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point to finish a first game, that is as good as it comes for Tsonga.

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It emphasises the fact that, in most events, you have got to come

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out firing, but when you are playing against the best eight

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players in the world to have to be ready to go, and Fish lost his

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first service game against Nadal, and lost his first service game

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here, so he will look to break back Tsonga has got that same sort of

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touch and feel from the old days, really. He reminds me a little bit

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of Nastase, the way he walks around slightly pigeon-toed, it's sort of

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roles around the court. A fabulous athlete to watch in real life -- he

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He does not like a coach in his life, as you were saying in the

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studio. He does not want the structure, somebody put in anything

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into his head. There is probably a lot going on in there anyway, he

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likes to keep his like simple, play with flag, his own flat. And it has

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been working. He is up to six in the world -- he likes to play with

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That is the sort of drop shot that would give a coach a small kitten!

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He does not need a coach to tell him this was the wrong shot, and it

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was poor execution as well. When you have a guy that volleys well,

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you do not want to give him too He lost his last service game out

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here in the first match, Sunday afternoon against Roger Federer,

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with a double fault, a Mr volley and a couple of other things, and

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it was over quickly. -- a missed volley. This game has not look too

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UMPIRE: Game, Fish. Since March of last year, Mardy

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Fish has gone from 108 in the world to No. 8. At the age of 29, 30 next

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 54 seconds

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I think Fish was reluctant to challenge the ball in the middle of

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the rally because he felt he was in control of the point. It was only a

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split-second later that he was hitting a half volley into the net.

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You can never criticise an umpire for not calling a ball. That is

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That wasn't good again, was it? It was too high. With these strings it

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is quite hard to control the ball. You don't get a great deal of touch

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and feel. Tsonga is not a field Double fault. The first one was out.

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Why can't anyone hold serve? don't think really the server is

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imposing their style on their service games. His Fish trying to

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serve and volley, looking to come in on his second shot? Too many

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Just to put this event into perspective, this is the top eight

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in the world. Two groups of four, the play a round robin. These are

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the big ones on the regular ATP World Tour. These are the masters

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1,000 see these events. It starts with Indian Wells in Miami --

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Indian Wells and Miami. Nadal beat Ferrer in Monte Carlo. Djokovic

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beat Nadal on clay back-to- back in Madrid. Then it was Montreal and

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the hard courts. Fish has seen action in the final at this level.

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So does Tsonga. Andy Murray won in Cincinnati on the hard court. It

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was against Djokovic, who was not at his best. Was it a retirement?

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No, it was a capitulation I think. It has been an absolute domination

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this year from the top four players in the world at the big nine events.

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 54 seconds

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Everyone has been in a final as Certainly some good tennis. If I

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were Mardy Fish I would want African match hitting me with his

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backhand rather than his forehand. His backhand can be more

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inconsistent. Once he gets his nose in front in a game, especially when

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he is serving, he is likely to He chose tennis when he went to a

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local club at the age of eight. There is Tim Phillips, the former

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chairman of the All-England Club. Tsonga gets so much of his athletic

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ability from his dad who was a brilliant African handball player

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who went over to France in the 70s A good illustration of how Fish's

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movement has improved in the last couple of years. A lot more

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attention to his diet, lost a lot of weight, quicker around the court.

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Cutting the cakes out always helps as well. He never eats anything

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after his evening meal. None of this having a ploughman's before

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It is terrible - no food after your evening meal. No ice cream or

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We already have our first gluten- free Grand Slam champion with Novak

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Djokovic. I spoke to Venus Williams last week, she is on the steamed

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vegetables as well. She is looking Mardy holds to keep himself in it.

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Venus Williams is totally up for next year. She is ranked 101 in the

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world. She says that her body and her have been fighting each other

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for so long and she has not understood why she got so tired and

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was losing concentration. She thinks she has got to the bottom of

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it. She is very happy off court with her business and her fashion

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design house that she is very involved with. The women's game has

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lacked a little identity, I think, in the last 12 to 18 months. It was

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dominated by the Williams sisters. It was great to see Kim Clijsters

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coming back and winning more Grand Slams. I think it will be a great

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challenge for the Williams sisters to see if they can get back to the

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top of the game. It will also be a great challenge for the other women

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players to see if they can keep them away from the top of the game.

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Petra Kvitova had a fantastic end to the year. She looked stunning.

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Wimbledon champion? The way she is hitting the ball, she looks like

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one of the greats. This year just this event and the Davis Cup final.

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Spain against France and it is in Seville. Spain and Argentina.

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do I always get things wrong? It is a brilliant serve. You look

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where Tsonga throws the ball back up. It is very difficult for the

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Just amazing strength and athleticism from Tsonga, to go for

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What a boost it was for him to beat Federer from two sets down in the

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quarter finals of Wimbledon, because at his own Championships,

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the French, three weeks earlier, he lost a two set lead and was so

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disappointed at the end of that. A nice touch at the net from Fish

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I think win or lose I would like to see Fish finish more points at the

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net. If he is at the net, he is at least play the match on his terms.

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Tsonga must be difficult to play against. You never know what he

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UMPIRE: Game, Fish. New balls, That was Fish's wife, the architect

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of the weight loss programme. the one to achieve your potential,

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the way to do it is to get fit. When he was asked why she had never

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set it before, he said, well, she loves me and love 10 the way he was.

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But she is smart and said, this is the way you can improve -- and she

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loved him the way he was. I'm sure he wishes he had done it a few

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years earlier because it has transformed his results, improved

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his movement so much. At the end of your career, you want to say you

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have achieved everything you could achieve, and I feel that he has

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done that now, and there is plenty more to come. Who are you playing

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at the Albert Hall next week? not quite sure. Greg Rusedski has

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pulled out? He has pulled out, I was training five times a day

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getting ready for him! I am sure they will find a replacement.

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Perhaps Jo-Wilfried Tsonga or can hang about for a week? That would

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be fun, wouldn't it? I'm looking for someone with a bit more power

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than him! I think McEnroe is going to be there as well. It's fabulous

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event has a slightly different turn to next week. -- this fabulous

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He talks about the ball toss on the last point of this service game,

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there he throws it up in the same place, hits it 135 down the middle.

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This is what Federer was talking about, sometimes Tsonga can win

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I think I am right in saying in the match with Federer at Wimbledon,

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Federer broke Tsonga in his first service game of the match and did

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not have another break point for the whole of the rest of the match.

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UMPIRE: Tsonga leads by five games There is another one you could play

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Sebastian Grosjean beat me at Queen's and Wimbledon in the same

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They are just confirming the call. UMPIRE: Mardy Fish has challenged a

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Two challenge is allowed over the course of a set. If you are right,

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You get no credit for your good calls. You make one mistake, the

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cameras are on you. At least you don't get Paul off the court! --

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pulled. It sounds like Mardy Fish is having

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a bit of a go at the umpire. could say, but it is your answer.

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They are having a bit of a dig at teacher there, aren't they? -- a

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There is no doubt that some of the umpires and players, there is

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different chemistry on court. They find themselves in the same arena

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in a lot of different places in the world in a stressful environment,

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and some light each other more than And actually the umpire is the only

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person, he's still having a bit of a go at him... Instead of just

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saying it was too close to call, Challenger 2 not, you say it was

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out? -- challenge it all knocked. For me, it is out. So you think it

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was out? Yes, but I can be wrong. Umpires get stigma from the players

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that you cannot trust them because you say something like that. How

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can I be sure you are right there and there if I know for a fact you

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are wrong there. All the time we say to you guys, it is players,

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from here, it is difficult to see. It is easy for me... But if you are

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not 100% sure, why would you say that? That is why I said I can be

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wrong, like I was wrong in that. You could be wrung every time.

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could be wrong every time. -- you could be wrong. It is just honest

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answers. I will not call anything, I will not answer anything to use.

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You are not calling anything. soon as you ask me, I am calling.

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You are wasting energy, Mardi! -- Mardy! Time out! Handbags, please.

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The players' only real outlet on the court is the umpire. I think

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Mardy Fish got up and said, I still think you are a great guy. At the

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end of the day, the umpire admits he made a mistake. He said he

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thought it was out, and he got it wrong. But I think Fish just

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looking for an outlet for some of He has played a good first point.

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He just needed to have a chat with somebody it. From the umpire's

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point of view, they are between a rock and a hard place because if he

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always says, I am not quite sure, you feel he's just sitting in the

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chair calling the score and the players want more than that. But he

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has made a decision and got it A bit of tension out there now

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after a heavy first serve. The volley got wrapped around that

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frame and it was a way. The right Now it is a choice for Fish, does

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he go down the middle or throw one That was a wonderful return of

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He picked the direction of the Tsonga serve, and he was rarely on

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Biggest serve of the match so far, maybe of the tournament so far. 140

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That's the break. And that was a bit of a lapse from the Frenchman,

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but credit to Mardy Fish. He learned it all from me, that is his

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dad. I tell you, Fish should argue with the umpire more often! It has

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fired him up for the game. What is that? Four breaks of serve in this

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That was a good first serve from Fish. That is a volley, isn't it?

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You don't see that very often these days. The racquet head went through,

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It is like watching a Tim Henman match out there, all the volleying.

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You would have to see a couple of drop volleys, if that were to be

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That is very strong play and good concentration from Mardy Fish, who

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was clearly downhearted and upset with a couple of things only five

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minutes ago. How quickly it can turn around. What is right about

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this forehand, Tin? -- Tim? What is right about it? I think it has

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improved because it foot work has got better. -- his footwork. The

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most important aspect is where he is finishing. If he can use that to

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get himself in position at the net then he is going to make his game

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plan a good one. There is a natural TV person! Performing when the

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camera is on. Why aren't you at school? There is some excellent

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tennis to be seen here. Two more years here for these finals after

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this. I guess a decision will be made about where it will go next of

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whether it will stay here at that point back. It really could not be

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more impressively staged at the O2 Arena. It will have to be a good

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bid to get it away from here, isn't There are some tax considerations.

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Some of the guys are not happy I think we will have that debate at

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the change of ends. Change of ends After the disappointment of serving

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for this set, he has done well to settle down. Look how we see that

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game was. He will be thinking, why could I not have done that a couple

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UMPIRE: Tsonga is challenging the call on the right hand baseline.

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I thought Fish's serve was out. It did not get cold. -- it did not get

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It is so difficult, isn't it? You cannot just floated. Coming to the

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net is the right plan. -- you It is why people are not following

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so much these days, isn't it? The power that can be generated a --

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generated towards a target, it is Devastating serving in this tie-

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Please support to be continuous, but everyone always stops, don't

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they? -- play is supposed to be. A crucial point, this one. If he

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loses this, suddenly it is only 4-3 with Fish to serve. A very

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At great effort from Mardy Fish. -- a great effort. He was always

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chasing here, wasn't he? He was never in control. That actually

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Well, we will argue about that some other time. Fish needs the next two

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79 mph and he hasn't moved his feet and he puts it into the tramlines.

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It is a donation that will be Tsonga has failed to make a Mardy

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Fish player ball con los two points. If he wins these two points, Tsonga,

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he wins the set. Fish is just one good hit away from getting back

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into this. Tsonga is two aces away That is just what you want to see

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going around the place, isn't it, UMPIRE: Game and the first set,

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Tsonga. SUE BARKER: Are a reminder of the

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format of how these finals work. The top eight players in the world

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are split into two groups of four, this is group be in action. --

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Group B. Group A tomorrow and we all hope that Andy Murray will be

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fit enough to play his match against Tomas Berdych. Yesterday he

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had the trainer Ron court, he was hampered by a groin strain. He has

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had some treatment, then popped out for some lunch. This is in a few

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moments ago, going into the locker room. Tomorrow's match will be live

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on BBC Two and on the BBC H D channel. If Murray does pull-out,

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there is a chance that Federer could overtake him again in the

:14:11.:14:17.

world rankings. There is plenty of motivation to get back on court

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tomorrow. He will have to be better than yesterday. That groin strain

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really hampered his movement. That is what has been happening behind

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the scenes here with Andy Murray, but let's get back out on the court

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and rejoined his entertaining match. -- and rejoin this entertaining

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match. Thank you, Sue. That was not a

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double bounce, that one. I thought, from the other wrangle behind the

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court, it looked like there was a double bounce. There might have

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been. I would trust you rise more Some people have elected not to

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play in the United Kingdom next year because of the tax situation.

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Foreign players are being taxed when they play in this country on

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their worldwide income and it is being done, I think I'm right in

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saying, on the number of tournaments that you play worldwide

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and it is related to the number of tournaments you play in this

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country, so there is a scenario where Nadal comes and plays Queen's

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and will be receiving an appearance fee, prize money, and he would end

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up making a loss even if he won the tournament. So that is a percentage

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of worldwide endorsement and promotional and sponsorship income?

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Down as a pro rata on the amount of tournaments played in England?

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is right, and therefore the guys are always going to come and play

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Wimbledon, and again this tournament is another?, but the

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incentive for them to play Queen's will be less -- another question

:16:23.:16:27.

Mark. It is not all about money, but I think we have to be looking

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to support those events, and in the scheme of grass-court tennis, we

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want to promoted and make it as appealing as possible. Ongoing

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dialogue between Revenue and Customs -- Revenue and Customs and

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the tournament organisers. Tim's boards are exempt, so if Barcelona,

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over here, they are exempt -- team There is an exemption for the

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Back to the tennis, Tsonga played a great tie-break to get the first

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set under his belt. The last thing he wants to do is give Fish any

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encouragement at this early stage Now not finding the mark with his

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He is prone to lapses in concentration, isn't he? But he is

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as likely to serve dismay -- his way out of this situation as he is

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UMPIRE: Tsonga has challenged the call.

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You never really want to challenge on your own serve because it can

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disrupt your rhythm. It was just out, now he has had to wait. Second

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A strong response from Mardy Fish, 30 next month. I guess we should

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wish Boris Becker a happy birthday today. Born in 67, so what is he?

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44. Looking good on it. Apart from his broken ankle. He has got six

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screws in that angle. There is She came in today looking of it,

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signed a few autographs, a lovely It saw Todd emphasises the point

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why you don't feel in control of the match, because indeed previous

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game, Tsonga missed four shots, four unforced errors, suddenly in

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It is one of the most frustrating things that can happen. You get a

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0-30 opportunity, second serve, the third time he has missed one in

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this match, it is one of those things a professional hates to give.

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Getting closer to Christmas, but UMPIRE: Game, Tsonga.

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Just amazingly lucky on the return. Saw it was short, followed in, and

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then look at the grip. Just got enough of the strings. That is a

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lovely shot, isn't it? So graceful. 16 stone of honed athlete, that. No

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wonder you retired after you lost It was your last match, wasn't it,

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2007? My last match on the tour, yes, at the US Open, when I lost to

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Tsonga in two sets. Were you done by then? I had the Davis Cup to go,

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Looking forward to hanging up my UMPIRE: Game, song there. -- song

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there. GNU balls, please. -- New There were 14 regional trials house

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during the spring for the Barclays Ball Boys. They came down to a

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selection in it may in London. Boris Becker was one of the people

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who hand-picked the final furtive. If you fancy having a go at this,

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you can -- the final 30. You can It is a funny match, this, isn't

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it? Now and again it catches fire. I think it is very unpredictable.

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You see that from the first service game in the second set, Tsonga

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makes four errors and in the next two games he regains his

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consistency, his explosive power, and his back hitting the ball well

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It is a must-win match for both players. These two in their groups

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lost that first ones. Federer beat Tsonga, and Nadal defeated Mardy

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Fish in a final set tie-break. Later on here it will be Federer-

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Nadal. 5 Live Sports Extra for that But the loser of this match knows

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they will probably be going home. I don't know what the exact masses,

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but it is almost guaranteed. -- Amazing to get this angle with this

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If you had to pick a nationality based on a playing style, you would

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say French, wouldn't you? In most sports! It is true, isn't it? So

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7 Briton minutes ago, Fish was up a break-in Miss set. Three games like

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this and he is just a passenger. -- Seven or eight minutes ago. Now he

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has two points to walk a break. -- UMPIRE: Tsonga is challenging the

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call. Fish is putting a lot more top spin

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on it to get the ball sure to rock the court. It is wider. That is

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amazing. He just missed it. Now he has to hit a second serve when he

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is down break point. That was lovely. The deck was everything on

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that. He looks a bit cross now. -- Fish may be using that a wide one a

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Mum and dad are smiling a bit more now. This is poetry in motion, this

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one. He has picked his target in Oops! No real choice there from the

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umpire. It slipped 0 with the sweat. He is a lucky boy. If that bounces

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up and hits the line judge he is It is overwhelming tennis, isn't it,

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from Tsonga? So control. -- If you were trying to help Tsonga,

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you would show him the first game of the second set and say, do not

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do this, then you were shown in the next four games and say, do this.

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And then you would show him the This determination has

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characterised Fish's season. You never know what is going to happen.

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That is what has taken him up into SUE BARKER: The Frenchman is in

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charge. While the players changed ends I will take this opportunity

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to remind you that our coverage on BBC Two ends in about ten minutes.

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You will still be able to follow the match on the BBC HD channel.

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You can also continue on the red button. About ten minutes to go if

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At the moment it is difficult to see how Fish can get back into this

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match. He has had a hamstring problems but he has been getting

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treatment in London and seems to have been enjoying himself in this

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tournament. If he loses this one, he has only one to play and that is

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against Roger Federer. Tough, isn't it? Tsonga will feel that, if he

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can get this one out of the way, he can make it to the semi-finals.

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Just two from each group to go through. Nadal and Federer have one

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of the best rivalries in sport. I think, on present form, court

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conditions, I would favour Federer. But you can never write off Rafa.

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They have played a lot more on clay That is one of the shots of the

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year. That is unbelievable. He just hooked it back. There is an ability.

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And when you hit a volley as good as that, you cover the line because

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you say to yourself that you cannot get across the court. A phenomenal

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Tsonga is just content to soak up the pressure there. He is probably

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a better player when he is going for it. He looked like he was

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This time the error does come. He is that a set and 5-1. -- he is at.

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Remember that Nadal beat Fish in three sets. It would seem that

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