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lightning can strike twice between Ross County and Celtic in a cup

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semifinal, it certainly did. Live on Ross County and Celtic in a cup

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network viewers, watching the English FA Cup tie, between Norton

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canes and Chelsea, English FA Cup tie, between Norton

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from the scoreline, visiting's side are well in control at the moment.

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from the scoreline, visiting's side As that shot goes over the top.

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Hat-trick from Oscar is the headline Hat-trick from Oscar is the headline

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from that. 4-1, Chelsea. MK Dons' corner. Hall himself is

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going to take it. He played once in the Premier League for West Ham

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where he began his career. the Premier League for West Ham

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Murphy... Goalkick. No, no. They might have got away with it, I don't

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get was a foul. -- I don't think. Hazard on the run. Support arriving,

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Traore! That's not bad for an introduction! The substitute has his

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first Chelsea goal. And he makes it five. The Burkina face so

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international has his first goal, and it has gone from bad to worst MK

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Dons. Chelsea are making two more substitutions. Which one? Bats

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Willian. It was a good strike, he did well to keep it nice and low,

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the only way he could have stuck it in of the net. Again it was so easy,

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no pressure. It bobbled slightly. He has only been on the pitch five

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minutes. He has only played 73 minutes for Chelsea. He has got 17

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goals on loan. He was in Holland last season. That is a big smile,

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big moment for him. 5-1 Chelsea. As we touched upon earlier, Guus

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Hiddink is determined to give the mikes of Traore and Loftus-Cheek the

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opportunity to see what they can do. -- the likes. They haven't had it

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before, what is the problem with that? They may as well bring on some

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of these younger players, until you play them come you're never going to

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know, are you? Loftus-Cheek scored in round three, Traore scored in

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round four. They are about to bring on the best Player of the Season so

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far. That is the cue for the Chelsea

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change. Job well done. The second and third goals were

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sheer class. Again, this is such a good finish.

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Willian comes on in his place, and Pedro has come on for Hazard after

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his return to the first team. Willian incidentally has taken part

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in 31 of Chelsea's 33 games this season, more than any other

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first-team player. And he has been their best player by far. Pedro, we

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are not quite sure about him yet, are we? More questions than answers

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with his performances. Since his debut at West Brom, he has only

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scored twice in all competitions. He won 16 trophies with Barcelona.

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Fabregas, given away by Traore, straight to Hall, he has only got

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Bowditch in support, Carruthers joining as well. Here is Samir

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Carruthers, Ivanovic coming, he didn't see him. Didn't see him,

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didn't hear him, didn't get a shout. It could be worse, you could be 5-1

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down! Damage limitation for MK Dons. It is horrible if you are playing

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for MK Dons, you feel like you are chasing shadows, but you have to

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keep doing it, I'm afraid. And you have to keep your

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concentration, you don't want to concede seven or eight here is an MK

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Dons player, do you? Not only that, stupid red card, anything, you are

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trying to limp over the line. There are 20 odd minutes left yet. Such an

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impressive arena. It is the highest football crowd inside it today. They

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certainly want to try and enjoy the day as much as possible. At least

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enjoy the experience, I am not sure they will be at this moment in time!

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He is introducing Jonny Williams, on loan from Crystal Palace at the

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moment, the Welsh international, he made his debut last weekend at

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Bolton. I bet he is delighted to command. Do you think Karl Robinson

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said to him, go and change the game, Jonny here is -- for Chelsea. --

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here is Baba for Chelsea. You are impressed with the

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facilities here? I think they are great, it is a great shot.

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Fantastic. It takes ages to get out the car

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park, but apart from that it is great! The helicopter couldn't get

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into it! It could land on the training pitch!

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That was given straight to Carruthers by Fabregas. The flag is

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up on this nearside. Why don't they just let Chelsea play on? Chelsea

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safely into the fifth round draw, which is a reminder follows this

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game, stay with us, you can see it on BBC One at 6:15pm. Tomorrow night

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there is a transfer deadline day special with the round-up from

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11:15pm on BBC One, 11:40pm for our Welsh viewers. On Tuesday night we

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have a bumper Match of the Day, eight Premier League matches and all

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the title contenders in action, 10:45pm on Tuesday on BBC One. Over

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21 minutes remaining here for MK Dons. And at this stage, the second

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is don't take quickly enough. The return from Traore, Jordan

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Spence with the sliding challenge. Jordan Spence has been chasing

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Hazard most of the game, and now Pedro has come on and he is just

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running at him as well. Diego Costa has heard that Chelsea

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have scored again, he has come back out to see if there are any more.

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You would very much doubt that under Mourinho he would have come out,

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would he? It is not just Costa, there is a

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very different feel about Chelsea, isn't there? You said at the start,

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they have a spring in their step. It just feels like a different team,

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different culture, different club. Different results.

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This will now be nine unbeaten for Chelsea. They look to add to their

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record of 13 trophies in the last 11 seasons. Only three seasons without

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any silverware in that run. Matic, who made his 100th appearance

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Pedro, fantastic ball to find more challenging than this one.

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Pedro, fantastic ball to find Ivanovic, who has three options in

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the middle. Out by Joe Walsh. Willian, chased by Williams, chance

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for Ivanovic to set himself. Martin under pressure from Traore,

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he is not walking, she is keen to impress. -- he is keen to impress.

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Williams, straight to Fabregas. Four in the centre here for Pedro,

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reverse pass for Fabregas. Almost. in the centre here for Pedro,

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Run by Fabregas. -- good run by Fabregas.

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Loftus-Cheek caught by Walsh, free Dons here.

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Loftus-Cheek caught by Walsh, free kick to Chelsea. It might even be a

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booking. I kick to Chelsea. It might even be a

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saw the run and was going to flick it round the corner to him. It was a

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good give and go. It is a soft free kick, but it is a

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free kick. It is a yellow card for the Welshman Joe Walsh. It means a

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free kick opportunity for Chelsea. As they search for a sixth.

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He has scored a few this season. This is certainly his range.

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Straight up the wall that time. -- at the wall.

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MK Dons, as planned, are going to introduce their striker Nicky

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Maynard. For Dean Bowditch. He injured his hamstring in the warm up

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of the replay against Northampton to earn this tie. The former West Ham,

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Bristol City and Cardiff striker. He has been a goal-scorer down the

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years, hasn't he? I'll tell you what, Fabregas had a

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swing at Carruthers there. I'm not quite sure what the referee spotted.

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Carruthers pointing that out. Have some of that!

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Lillington couldn't keep that in. Their supporters have done well,

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albeit rather quietly. They certainly haven't harangued the team

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for any reason. Pedro knew exactly where Baba was.

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Traore was in the penalty area, couldn't find him. When Chelsea

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played us give and gos, the Milton Keynes players just can't live with

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them. Tempo Mac was in total space, and

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Traore. We pity they didn't wait for

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Ivanovic, who had made a great run. Don't think he was spotted. The kid

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wants to score a second goal, fair play to him. Ivanovic makes a

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fantastic run at the top of your picture. Into the box, he would have

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been on. Split the two defenders with the ball, it would have been

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six. Traore has been with the ball, it would have been

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getting minutes for Chelsea. Loic Remy is injured at

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speculation about his future. Alexandre Pato has arrived on loan.

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It will be an interesting one. What a ball that is. Baba was in

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again but pulled back by Jordan Spence. It will be a booking.

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Luckily he started the polling before he was in the box. Tactical

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Just had enough of chasing everyone down that spot. About five different

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players throughout the day. It has been a long day for MK Dons.

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Ten and a half minutes still to go. David Martin organising his two man

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He was looking for Chelsea.

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He was looking there wasn't one. Know, a little bit

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too close to the keeper. Long from Fabregas and Loftus-Cheek

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was onto it. Long from Fabregas and Loftus-Cheek

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cross. Jordan Spence with the header.

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Fabregas dispossessed, by Forster-Caskey. Trying his luck

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again. Not a bad effort. Just found a bit of space. The MK Dons change

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is to take of Samir Carruthers, and introduce a man they've produced

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themselves, Daniel Powell. The 24-year-old has been at the club

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since the age of 14, debut at 17, and he's going to get at least eight

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and a half minutes experience playing against Chelsea. Or chasing

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the ball, which ever way you look at it. In all seriousness, something

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they are very proud of and continue to work at MK Dons. Producing

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players. You have to do at this level, it's imperative. We will come

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back to some of those names in a moment. Pedro is on the side, and

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it's a good block by McFadzean. -- is onside.

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Dele Alli is the obvious one in recent times, but they have also

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produced shale Jo at Liverpool and Brendan Galloway of Everton. The

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Merseyside pair look like they have a real chance at Liverpool and

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Everton respectively. A little over seven minutes to go. Former Chelsea

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FA Cup winner Graeme Le Saux has been watching pitch side. You

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probably enjoyed this performance from your former club. Despite the

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obvious gulf in class, the Chelsea players have impressed me with the

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standards they set themselves. Hardly any mistakes. The tempo has

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been capped the same, kept moving the ball and kept trying to score

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goals. You see the standard they are setting among themselves, and that's

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what makes them look so comfortable and makes life difficult for MK

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Dons. MK Dons waiting for the minutes to tick by. They will be

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back to the day job next weekend when they go to Cardiff in the

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Championship. Powell, a good save from Courtois.

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Positive run from the substitute. Rob Hall is dispossessed.

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Confirmation coming through that the crowd is over 28,000 today. It is

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larger than the night they beat Manchester United. Forster-Caskey's

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cross headed away by Cahill and Willian. That beat the World Cup

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rugby game that was held here. Challenge from Traore, MK Dons

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corner. His team have 18 games to play in

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the Championship, one point above relegation at the moment. Cardiff,

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and then back here next Tuesday to play second placed Middlesbrough.

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Lillington was trying to get on the end of that corner. -- Lewington. MK

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Dons throw. Decent ball in from Lewington, good

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defensive header from Terry. Unlike the fifth round draw from

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last year, Chelsea will be in it. They will be ball 16 in the draw

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that follows. Some big hitters left in. Most of the top ten in the

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Premier League. West Ham still have to play Liverpool again, but nearly

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all of them. Willian just has a knock. Stood on his foot, those

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silver boot is. Yeah, stood on his toes. In

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fairness, it is sore, especially when you've got carpet slippers on.

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As opposed to what, the steel capped boots you wore? Yeah, Dixie Dean and

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all that. Hope this isn't too serious for the man you describe as

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their best player this season. Easily, head and shoulders. Eight

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goals already this season, twice as many as last season.

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It's always the innocuous ones. didn't look particularly happy for a

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Chelsea fan, couldn't have told it was 5-1. Talking of which...

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He will just be surveying the scene, looking at the crowd. It's

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fantastic. The standard away chant is, your ground is too big for you.

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Not today, it hasn't. He might just be taking it all in. They are doing

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Not today, it hasn't. He might just things the right way. The team with

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the lowest budget in the Championship,

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the lowest budget in the fight to stay in it. Which would be

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an achievement in itself. It's just been a very professional

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performance from Chelsea with lots of dashes and splashes of class

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along the way. Milton Keynes have done the best they could, but

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there's a massive gulf between the sides.

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The hat-trick hero set the tone. In that first half. I'm guessing he

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would be your Man of the Match today. He would. The baby faced

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assassin, look at him. Taking his tally to eight goals for the season.

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Already more than his tally for a mass campaign. Just one minute of

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time added on. That will certainly please MK Dons. Yeah. The crowd have

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stuck with them though, generally. Pedro Leal EBT himself. -- nearly

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beat himself. Pedro doesn't have time to progress, unlike 12 months

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ago, Chelsea's name will be in the hat for the FA

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ago, Chelsea's name will be in the Guus Hiddink picked a strong side

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and they have responded. Never a hint of upset on MK Dons big day.

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Oscar's first half hat-trick will take the headlines and set the tone.

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Eden Hazard's penalty and then a first Chelsea goal for Traore

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rounding things off. Thoroughly professional performance from the

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reigning Premier League champions. They are safely through to the draw,

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which is up-and-coming. It has finished MK Dons 1-5 Chelsea.

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STUDIO: Are very comfortable afternoon's work for Chelsea. Oscar

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gets the match ball, the third person to score a hat-trick in the

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FA Cup this season, compared to seven in the whole of 2014-15. He

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takes away the match ball, Chelsea go to the next round, Guus Hiddink

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protects his record of never having lost an FA Cup tie. It was a bit of

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an exhibition. You still have to go out and do it and be professional.

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Otherwise, as we have seen over the years come you get slip-ups. Never a

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chance of it today. They were excellent and did what they had to

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do in the second half, passing the ball around and looking comfortable.

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Very thorough and professional job, well done. All MK Dons can take out

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of it is a few pounds through the turnstiles, some television money,

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and move on. Without a doubt. When using the got one of the lowest

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budgets in the Championship, the money they get will be fantastic for

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them. But they kept trying to do the right things. Their heads never

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dropped. Kept trying to play the right way. They have bigger fish to

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fry, they have to stay in the Championship and Karl Robinson will

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be thinking of that. Great day out, and they have Cardiff away. Chelsea

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look like daffodils at this time of year, small shoots? They are playing

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well. Their re-professional. I loved it, I loved the fact, when they play

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like this, and the players they have, you should play every time

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like this. That's what I saw in the second half, still trying to play

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their game and score goals. I like Loftus-Cheek. I'm a fan of this guy.

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I hope Guus Hiddink will play him more often. I think he has a real

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talent. I think he's an asset for the team and the national team of

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England. So many good young English players coming through, and he looks

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like yet another. I will come to you shortly, but we can go down to pitch

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side. Oscar, many congratulations, your first hat-trick in English

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football. Yeah, my first hat-trick, so happy today. It felt like a

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really big performance today, John. You were all absolutely up for it

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from start to finish. Right from the word go. The majority of the squad

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know what the FA Cup is about. The manager and Steve Eddy made it clear

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it would be tough today. We came out of the blocks and it could have been

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a few goals early on. This man was different class with his finishing.

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Do you have a favourite goal from today? I think my first goal is a

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very important goal because it was a big game. The second and third, good

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goals. In fairness, you could have had five. There was the one Diego

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Costa took from you. It was a huge performance. Eden Hazard with the

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penalty. It was a strategic decision for the team to get him off the

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mark. It's great for him to get off the mark, and he's just come back

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from injury. Great benchmark for him and he can kick on, back fit. The

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team is playing well, creating chances and scoring goals. It's good

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at the moment, so hopefully this can continue. You have this FA Cup in

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your sights. It would be number six for you. We hope so, we've had a

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good run in the last few years. The purpose of travelling here, away

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from the families, and away from home, you want to go unbeaten when

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you are in it stop the unbeaten in nine games now, what's made the

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difference? We need to continue to win the games and play well. We have

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lots of important games to come. You are in the draw. You born 16, tell

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the boys. -- you are ball number 16. The draw is coming up at about

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quarter past six. We can look at the matchwinner's hat-trick. Man of the

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Match Oscar was terrific today. Could have had two or three more.

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The first one was very important because they were missing chance

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after chance. A terrible error, but Costa deserves some credit because

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he could Costa deserves some credit because

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Put it on a plate for Oscar. This one was a superb run behind

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defence, the defender should be tight with him but across the

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goalkeeper who has no chance. Williams finish. Superb all

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afternoon. A gifted footballer, Paul. He is, when he plays like that

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and he is on song, use a world beater. I think this is the best

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goal, using the defender as a shield, and guides it round.

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Top-class player when he plays like that. Happy when you can get this,

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you can express yourself. You can see that, they are doing that. Also

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the results that bring happiness, it's a chicken and egg thing, which

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one comes first. You talk about things that turnaround morale,

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allowing Hazard to take the penalty gets him off the mark. It's a nice

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gesture from the team as well. You saw after the goal how happy they

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were that he scored. Maybe that will bring him some confidence. He played

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well. He does what he normally does, the only thing is that last year he

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was so important and vital in all the goals that they scored, winning

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goals. It's clever to give him that. He has missed this last two

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penalties. When you have been on a dry run as a forward, anything will

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do, whether it comes off your backside, a penalty, anything to

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give you confidence and belief that you can hit the back of the net. I

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know it's only a penalty but it want to help him. Doesn't even look at

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the ball. -- it won't half help him. Looks up, looks at the goalkeeper,

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and you could quite easily missed the ball altogether. He's missed his

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last two. Doesn't always work. There's been a lot of talk about him

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leaving at the end of the season. I don't think he wants to go. Because

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he's got that penalty, Traore came on and scored his first goal.

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Everything went well. Fabregas can't tackle, but he can surely pass. Only

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80 yards, superb. Superb ball. MK Dons were ball watching. Yellow mac

:38:45.:38:58.

it's a good finish, not easy. -- it's a good finish, not easy. MK

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Dons will be knackered. It was a great finish. They haven't had the

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ball for a long time, chasing all the time. We own the, if you are a

:39:07.:39:13.

club from a lower division playing against the big boys, you need them

:39:14.:39:16.

to have an off day, and Chelsea didn't have anything like that. You

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thought after 20 minutes it would be one of those, riding their luck and

:39:21.:39:24.

nick something, but you need the goalkeeper to be outstanding and for

:39:25.:39:27.

them to miss chances and win by a set piece. The way this club has

:39:28.:39:36.

come on, and where it is now, it's a fantastic vision that Pete Winkelman

:39:37.:39:39.

has. To have Chelsey Jay, a full house, he will take that all day

:39:40.:39:47.

long. -- to have Chelsea here. Graeme Le Saux has been watching all

:39:48.:39:50.

afternoon. Everything rosy in the Chelsea garden? It certainly is at

:39:51.:39:54.

the moment. The two words that summed up the performance were

:39:55.:39:57.

purpose and urgency for Chelsea. They didn't lose the purpose and

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urgency through 90 minutes. As Paul Ince was saying, there was the

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chance MK Dons could ride their luck with the chances Chelsea missed, but

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they kept plugging away and equality oozed out of them all game. All

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credit to MK Dons, they try to play attacking football against Chelsea.

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So much space for Chelsea to exploit, and in that form I think

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Chelsea would have taken most teams apart. Wonderful performance, and I

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think the MK Dons players will sleep well for the next couple of nights.

:40:28.:40:31.

Where do Chelsea go from here? Are they back to the side they were last

:40:32.:40:36.

season or just one step at a time? I think they are back, absolutely. On

:40:37.:40:40.

a fantastic run, and the atmosphere is so different at the club. John

:40:41.:40:46.

Terry has said that between the players they are so happy to be

:40:47.:40:49.

playing with a bit more freedom. They look like they are back on

:40:50.:40:55.

again. This last stage of the season could prove to be a to finish the

:40:56.:41:03.

season our role, get to the end of what has been a start of the season.

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-- been a disastrous start of the season. You hear stories of Eden

:41:10.:41:17.

Hazard going, I think there's a good chance they can keep hold of him.

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Get warm and get inside. We can hear from MK Dons manager Karl Robinson.

:41:24.:41:29.

Li you are still smiling. I said to you before the game it was a free

:41:30.:41:33.

game for us. I'm disappointed, I thought we were poor. A bit harsh

:41:34.:41:38.

because of the quality of the opposition, but certain elements of

:41:39.:41:42.

what we did today, we almost caused our own problems at certain stages.

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The group has an amazing mentality. Some of my players could play at the

:41:51.:41:54.

top level, and there's a reason they could at a consistent basis. Some of

:41:55.:41:57.

the younger players can learn lessons. What is it like to face

:41:58.:42:02.

that bamboozling array, that first half when they were coming from

:42:03.:42:07.

every angle. I thought it was scary. I've not had that before. When they

:42:08.:42:11.

are on it, they are unplayable. Whoever they were up against, they

:42:12.:42:16.

would have played in the same style. Quality all over the pitch.

:42:17.:42:19.

Disappointed in a couple of my players, one or two have let

:42:20.:42:22.

themselves down a bit. That's the reality of the industry. Some

:42:23.:42:26.

haven't performed today, some have gone missing, hiding, and I expected

:42:27.:42:30.

more from some of them. I have a team to pick for next Saturday away

:42:31.:42:34.

at Cardiff, and one or two who have been waiting in the wings for their

:42:35.:42:38.

opportunity, today has given them that at Unity and some people have

:42:39.:42:45.

hid. -- that opportunity. It's important to learn. It can be easy

:42:46.:42:52.

to point fingers, but it's hard to point fingers and then learn and

:42:53.:42:56.

grow. The players need to grow, technically we need to be better and

:42:57.:43:01.

faster and we need to be quicker in rotation. Defensively we got carved

:43:02.:43:06.

up too easily, looking way to open, and too many passes got between the

:43:07.:43:08.

lines of the centre-backs and full-backs. But we have things to

:43:09.:43:15.

take away and work on. Commiserations. Thank you. STUDIO:

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Great that he's kept his sense of humour. You know him well, you are

:43:23.:43:27.

laughing, Paul. Ruud Gullit has just left us. He's not had another

:43:28.:43:31.

fallout with Alan Shearer! Just to make that clear. He's gone to do the

:43:32.:43:35.

draw for the fifth round in about ten minutes time. Stick with us for

:43:36.:43:43.

that for. What will Karl Robinson take from that? I think he might

:43:44.:43:48.

have been overcritical with his players. They are not going to play

:43:49.:43:55.

Chelsea every week. They got cut open, but the gap between the teams

:43:56.:43:58.

was massive, so it was always going to be the case. It's disappointing,

:43:59.:44:02.

because when you play these teams, you want to put on a show and make

:44:03.:44:07.

it closer. It's a great occasion for everybody. Some players freeze out

:44:08.:44:16.

there. I've done it. You see top players and freeze. It was only for

:44:17.:44:24.

a couple of seconds. As a player, you want to perform against the best

:44:25.:44:26.

players in the world. I can't believe you just admitted that. Did

:44:27.:44:32.

Alan Shearer ever freeze? Don't think so. Not that you would admit

:44:33.:44:39.

it. The one thing he can say about his players, they worked hard

:44:40.:44:45.

enough, at the end of the day you have to hold up your hands and say

:44:46.:44:48.

you are not good enough and the other team was better. Unfortunately

:44:49.:44:52.

that was the case today. When you play that attacking, passing type of

:44:53.:44:57.

game, if the other team is up for it and you are not defensively

:44:58.:45:00.

astute... Two months ago they would have had a chance against this

:45:01.:45:04.

Chelsea team, but they now have their belief back, passing and

:45:05.:45:07.

enjoying football again and they have caught them on a bad day.

:45:08.:45:13.

other fourth-round match played today when League 2 Carlyle

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other fourth-round match played five times winners Everton to

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Brunton Park. Martin Fisher is your commentator.

:45:20.:45:32.

Leonard is in behind Carlisle year... He scores! A dream start for

:45:33.:45:43.

the Premier League side. Carlisle caught cold in the opening

:45:44.:45:48.

exchanges. Leonard certainly an side and got his head up swiftly here.

:45:49.:45:58.

Kone with an intelligent run and he couldn't miss. That will ease any

:45:59.:46:02.

early anxiety for the Merseyside team.

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This was a horror moment for the Argentine. He was going for gold,

:46:15.:46:23.

when maybe the cross would have proved more beneficial. The manager

:46:24.:46:28.

once played in an FA Cup proved more beneficial. The manager

:46:29.:46:31.

with Wolves back in 1998. 2-0 Everton! He set up the first and

:46:32.:46:37.

scored the second and already this 2-0 Everton! He set up the first and

:46:38.:46:47.

time it is going the Premier League side's way. Pienaar, Oviedo John

:46:48.:46:54.

Barkley all involved. Lennon found space -- Oviedo and Barkley. It was

:46:55.:46:58.

Barkley, and too strong for

:46:59.:47:13.

Barkley, and could be a wonderful goal.

:47:14.:47:20.

Carlisle not out of the woods just yet. Goalkick given. Ross Barkley

:47:21.:47:30.

Carlisle not out of the woods just in the Capital One Cup

:47:31.:47:35.

Carlisle not out of the woods just against Manchester City, I thought

:47:36.:47:37.

A bit of space for Ross Barkley... another one here.

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A bit of space for Ross Barkley... What a finish! What a finish

:47:47.:47:49.

A bit of space for Ross Barkley... Ross Barkley. Not many goalkeepers

:47:50.:47:52.

in the land would have a chance of keeping that one out, his ninth of

:47:53.:47:56.

the season. Already, his best tally in a season. The deflection of Mark

:47:57.:48:04.

Ellis didn't help the goalkeeper. Everton stride on with real purpose

:48:05.:48:11.

into the last 16 of this season's FA Cup. A potentially tricky obstacle

:48:12.:48:13.

successfully negotiated. Not far wide from Tom Cleverley.

:48:14.:48:31.

Trying to beat Gillespie at his near post here. Of those Barkley again.

:48:32.:48:37.

-- of those. Kone flashes across the face of

:48:38.:48:47.

goal. How close was this going in for number four? Against the post

:48:48.:48:50.

and away to safety. It has got away from

:48:51.:49:05.

Jagielka with the important intervention. The outcome of the tie

:49:06.:49:12.

has long been settled, but Jagielka determined that Everton would keep a

:49:13.:49:16.

red clean sheet today. The fourth round of the FA Cup can always been

:49:17.:49:20.

tricky, it was a terrific atmosphere and I thought we dealt with the game

:49:21.:49:24.

and a good man and we can look forward to the draw and see where

:49:25.:49:27.

the fifth round will take us. -- in a good manner. It was good after the

:49:28.:49:32.

feeling of disappointment on Wednesday. We knew how good they

:49:33.:49:36.

were and we wanted to try and contain them as long as possible, we

:49:37.:49:40.

were 2-0 down and thinking it was going to be a long afternoon. Credit

:49:41.:49:44.

to the players, we changed our shape and formation. We saw you talking to

:49:45.:49:51.

the referee, what was said? The referee said there had been a

:49:52.:49:54.

complaint made by one of the players about racist board. It is not

:49:55.:50:00.

accepted, not acceptable, -- racist board. The football club does not

:50:01.:50:04.

want anything to do with racism. We have done what we can do and I will

:50:05.:50:10.

be very disappointed if there are any Carlisle United supporters

:50:11.:50:13.

associated with that. Well said. In the highlights show later this

:50:14.:50:17.

evening they will be covering that more closely. At the moment we can

:50:18.:50:22.

go back down pitch side where Guus Hiddink is waiting for us, the

:50:23.:50:26.

successful Chelsea manager. You must be delighted with that performance,

:50:27.:50:31.

great stuff? Yes, we are delighted because if you play this game than

:50:32.:50:35.

it is always difficult than if you played in the big, big games,

:50:36.:50:41.

Arsenal, Man City, the concentration is always high automatically. But

:50:42.:50:45.

these games you have to be well prepared mentally. I think we did

:50:46.:50:48.

well in the first half, although we were not finishing it off in the

:50:49.:50:53.

first 20 minutes. Then they got even with the equaliser, but we reacted

:50:54.:50:59.

very well. The first half it was all down to the missed opportunities,

:51:00.:51:02.

but you must be delighted with Oscar's format the moment? That is

:51:03.:51:09.

true, -- form at the moment. He is playing with a smile on his face and

:51:10.:51:12.

that is what I like, when they know their obligation what to do, and

:51:13.:51:16.

also defensively, these guys they know they have their job to do and

:51:17.:51:21.

they do it. If they can play it by nature they can play it, it is good

:51:22.:51:26.

to see. Another bonus for you must be the fact that Eden Hazard scored

:51:27.:51:29.

a goal from the penalty spot, encouraged by his team-mates. Where

:51:30.:51:34.

you came for him to take that penalty? -- where you keen? They

:51:35.:51:40.

decide themselves. Oscar is the first one to take, but he gave it to

:51:41.:51:45.

Eden Hazard because everybody knows that, he himself knows as well, that

:51:46.:51:49.

he hasn't scored for a long time due to injuries and not having scored.

:51:50.:51:54.

What do you put the change of fortunes in the manner that Chelsea

:51:55.:51:58.

are now playing, unbeaten since you have taken over, the side were

:51:59.:52:01.

really struggling before that. What you think the main difference has

:52:02.:52:07.

been? Well, it is to say. What I asked in the beginning of the

:52:08.:52:11.

players, when they made a contribution to the championship

:52:12.:52:14.

last year, when they were champions, the contribution was they did.

:52:15.:52:20.

Normally the result was a reaction after being champions, yes, people

:52:21.:52:24.

get a little bit complacent -- normally there is a reaction. I

:52:25.:52:28.

asked the players, hey, guys, what did you do when you were successful?

:52:29.:52:33.

Let's try to go back to what your basic skills are. And clearly they

:52:34.:52:38.

took that on board. I suppose also the fact that you get together a few

:52:39.:52:42.

results, even if it is only draws, and stop the habit of losing, that

:52:43.:52:47.

makes a difference. So much of footballers between the ears. That's

:52:48.:52:52.

true, we or unbeaten now. -- so much of football is between the ears. It

:52:53.:52:57.

is good to have some results. For the standard of Chelsea, you can

:52:58.:53:03.

lose every now and then again but if you go on an unbeaten array of games

:53:04.:53:07.

then you need also victories, and that is what we do in recent years.

:53:08.:53:12.

How have things changed since your first spell in charge of the club

:53:13.:53:16.

some six or seven years ago? Well, totally different players. The only

:53:17.:53:22.

one is John Obi Mikel, John Terry, not many, not many are there, it is

:53:23.:53:26.

a different group and different qualities. But, yeah, it is

:53:27.:53:32.

difficult to compare the players we had then and what we have now, that

:53:33.:53:36.

is difficult and I don't want to go too much in the past. It was a

:53:37.:53:40.

beautiful time at that time with a lot of personalities. And now

:53:41.:53:43.

they're different guys, but there is a nice quality. You have never lost

:53:44.:53:51.

an FA Cup tie, you won it in 2005, can you do it again? That is a big

:53:52.:53:55.

wish, this club has to go somewhere, and try to get himself aware. But,

:53:56.:54:00.

you know, we have to make it first. That is the next step. Well, keep

:54:01.:54:05.

your eye on the draw, it is coming up shortly. Thank you for talking to

:54:06.:54:09.

us, and congratulations. He is doing a good job once again. He's doing a

:54:10.:54:20.

fantastic job. What it tells you is how important man management is.

:54:21.:54:22.

Yes, coaching, but to get the best out of the players, to manage the

:54:23.:54:25.

players. Particularly nowadays with the vast sums of money involved, the

:54:26.:54:27.

sums of money that players are on. To get the best out of them, to

:54:28.:54:32.

scratch their egos and tell them how great they are. I mean, it sounds

:54:33.:54:37.

simple but it isn't. Most players Risse Sloper respond best to an arm

:54:38.:54:45.

around your shoulder... -- respond best. I never got one from Fergie!

:54:46.:54:50.

That is what it means, you can see they enjoy their football. They

:54:51.:54:54.

always seem to be getting on. They have got a great chance of winning.

:54:55.:54:58.

They certainly have. Stay with us, the draw is about come these are the

:54:59.:55:02.

team that will be in the draw for the fifth round. The holders Arsenal

:55:03.:55:06.

ball three. Time for that draw with Mark

:55:07.:55:18.

Chapman, your host. What could go wrong?!

:55:19.:55:28.

Hello and welcome to the draw for the fifth round, we live at

:55:29.:55:35.

Stadium:mk, where a few moments ago Chelsea beat their hosts five goals

:55:36.:55:39.

to one. Thereafter 16 balls to be drawn out, eight ties in total, and

:55:40.:55:45.

in charge of the draw today we have two former cup winners in Ruud

:55:46.:55:55.

Gullet and Mark Lawrenson. Ruud won the FA Cup back in 1997. That final

:55:56.:56:02.

is remembered for Roberto Di Matteo's goal after 42 seconds, the

:56:03.:56:08.

second fastest in cup history, it led to Chelsea's first major trophy

:56:09.:56:13.

in 26 years and Ruud was the first non-British manager to lift the FA

:56:14.:56:18.

Cup. And Mark was an integral part of the successful Liverpool team

:56:19.:56:25.

from the 1980s that included an FA Cup victory in 1986. The club

:56:26.:56:33.

completed the double that year, pipping their nearest rivals Everton

:56:34.:56:36.

to both league and cup success at Wembley. He hasn't changed a bit!

:56:37.:56:45.

Mark is in charge of drawing the home team, Ruud the weightings.

:56:46.:56:49.

Mark is in charge of drawing the Mark, if you would like to put the

:56:50.:56:53.

ball into the bowl. -- Ruud the way teams. Hilariously in the rehearsal

:56:54.:56:59.

you left one in the bag deliberately, I have only just

:57:00.:57:00.

laughing! OK, green light? Yes, everything has

:57:01.:57:13.

gone. This is the fifth round of the FA Cup. 16. That is Chelsea, who

:57:14.:57:22.

have just won here against the MK Dons. They are at home. Number

:57:23.:57:28.

seven. Chelsea will be at home to Manchester City.

:57:29.:57:33.

APPLAUSE Chelsea will play Manchester City.

:57:34.:57:40.

It's all going well. Number five. Reading have lost just one of their

:57:41.:57:45.

last nine FA Cup matches. Number one. And Reading will be at home to

:57:46.:57:53.

West Brom or Peterborough. Those two sides need a replay after drawing at

:57:54.:57:58.

the Hawthorns. Number nine. That is Watford who have lost two Premier

:57:59.:58:01.

League opposition in each of the last four seasons of the FA Cup.

:58:02.:58:09.

Number two. They will be at home to Leeds United of the championship.

:58:10.:58:12.

Only the second time in 13 seasons they have got through to the fifth

:58:13.:58:18.

round. Number eight. Shrews brew town. They will be at home, having

:58:19.:58:21.

knocked out Sheffield Wednesday yesterday. Number four. They will be

:58:22.:58:32.

at home to Manchester United. Who haven't lost in the fifth round for

:58:33.:58:38.

ten years. Shrewsbury are going to Manchester United. Number 12.

:58:39.:58:44.

Blackburn Rovers knocked up Oxford yesterday. Paul Lambert's side will

:58:45.:58:50.

be at home. Number six. They will be at home to Liverpool or West Ham

:58:51.:58:54.

United. Premier League opposition for Blackburn. Number 14. Number 14,

:58:55.:59:02.

Spurs, comfortable winners at League 1 Colchester yesterday. Number 11.

:59:03.:59:08.

They will be at home to Crystal Palace. There is a London derby.

:59:09.:59:15.

Number three. Arsenal or at home at the Emirates, unbeaten in 14 rounds

:59:16.:59:26.

at the FA Cup. Against number 15. Hull are not going to be happy, Hull

:59:27.:59:32.

again for Arsenal! Arsenal against North these micro.

:59:33.:59:35.

Hull. Bournemouth or at home in the fifth round for the first times is

:59:36.:59:47.

as 1989. Number ten. They will be at home to Everton, who put Carlisle

:59:48.:59:52.

out this lunchtime. There you have it, that is the draw for the fifth

:59:53.:59:56.

round of the Emirates FA Cup. The ties will be played across the

:59:57.:00:00.

weekend of the 19th to the 22nd of February. Let's take a look at some

:00:01.:00:10.

of the ties in the fifth round that Mark and Ruud have drawn. Chelsea

:00:11.:00:17.

against Manchester City. If you want to win it, you have to knock out the

:00:18.:00:25.

big ones, this is an opportunity. Blackburn will be happy, they have

:00:26.:00:33.

got a Premier League side. The chief executive will be absolutely

:00:34.:00:39.

delighted, Mr Derek Shaw. It was pure chance, of course! And Shrews

:00:40.:00:44.

Brewery as well, the lowest ranked side left in, they have Manchester

:00:45.:00:50.

United at home. I think they will be thrilled. The crowd will love having

:00:51.:00:54.

Manchester United there, I think it is to the big club. You have drawn

:00:55.:01:00.

some remarkable ties -- it is still a big club. Hull are going to

:01:01.:01:10.

Arsenal again, unlucky. It is Chelsea-Manchester city, Watford

:01:11.:01:17.

versus Leeds, Shrews bree against Manchester United. -- Shewbury

:01:18.:01:25.

against Manchester United. And Bournemouth versus Everton. Ties

:01:26.:01:29.

will be played the 19th to of February. -- to the 22nd.

:01:30.:01:38.

STUDIO: That is the draw, fascinating fixtures to look forward

:01:39.:01:40.

to in the fifth round of the red survey cup. You will notice that

:01:41.:01:46.

grey so has joined us. -- the FA Cup. -- radium Rossouw. Let's start

:01:47.:01:52.

with Chelsea-man city. We were talking about the fact that it is

:01:53.:01:57.

further down the line but it is going to be a fantastic game and the

:01:58.:02:04.

fact that the other teams have a bit of confidence. The pig of the draw,

:02:05.:02:09.

Alan? What a draw for Shewbury -- the pick of the draw. Spurs will be

:02:10.:02:16.

delighted with the game against Palace. Arsenal always seem to have

:02:17.:02:18.

a home draw, it is quite remarkable. There are a lot of clubs in there

:02:19.:02:39.

fighting. It is very that you see those teams in there, that makes it

:02:40.:02:44.

fantastic games, you know, that we are going to see. I'm looking

:02:45.:02:52.

forward to it. I mean, I'm not sure, Shewbury, for me, to get Man Utd

:02:53.:02:59.

out. ... It is what the FA Cup is all about. The reward for the

:03:00.:03:05.

hardware gets today. Looking back at the game here, Chelsea will be one

:03:06.:03:10.

of the favourites, a tough game against Manchester City, it is at

:03:11.:03:14.

home, though. Whole new feeling at the club now. We said when we were

:03:15.:03:18.

watching the game and afterwards that the atmosphere at the club is

:03:19.:03:21.

totally different, they have had a fantastic run of form, I think they

:03:22.:03:25.

are the team to avoid, to be honest. If they continue momentum they will

:03:26.:03:30.

finish the season very strongly. Manchester City comfortable and when

:03:31.:03:35.

yesterday. I suppose you can say it about all the sides, possibly with

:03:36.:03:38.

the exception of Leicester, they have been inconsistent. Certainly

:03:39.:03:42.

when we are talking about the big clubs. I was looking at the league,

:03:43.:03:46.

with Leicester being at the top, if they continue with the points they

:03:47.:03:50.

are getting they will finish on 72 points which would be the lowest

:03:51.:03:54.

point score for a title winning side. So actually that inconsistency

:03:55.:03:59.

has been what has happened all season and it will probably continue

:04:00.:04:03.

until the end. What is your take on the Chelsea players? As in the

:04:04.:04:06.

difference between the players we saw three or four months ago to now.

:04:07.:04:10.

It is only staggering, and I can only think they were not enjoying

:04:11.:04:14.

going to work. We have all been in dressing rooms where you are not

:04:15.:04:17.

enjoying yourself so much and you just can't get the motivation,

:04:18.:04:20.

particularly the creative players, I don't think they have had the chance

:04:21.:04:28.

to go and express themselves and they were not playing with a smile

:04:29.:04:31.

on their face, they looked like they were having to think about what they

:04:32.:04:33.

were doing defensively. Now you are seeing a totally different Chelsea

:04:34.:04:36.

side. Booking ahead to Man City, we have seen seven hat-tricks in the FA

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Cup this season, one of them was yesterday, I and a choke, young

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talent, what you make of him? He has shown a lot of promise, right place,

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right time, great confidence, he has got a lot of time to think about it.

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He's lots that away superbly well. I heard Pellegrini saying last

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He's lots that away superbly well. I or two strikers go in the summer was

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because they think so much of this young man, Ianacho. He has got

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composure, he is powerful and he has got a nice left foot. He doesn't

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seem to be fazed by the players that he plays around, they have got some

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big stars, and he seems to come off the bench, doesn't moan, gets his

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time and his goals. Here's one for the future. Good and quick as well.

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The two big teams going head-to-head, Chelsea in full form.

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Playing attacking football, they could be entertaining. The players

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like getting behind, you have seen a rejuvenated Costa, the guys -- the

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guy that is making those runs. Plenty more football coming on the

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BBC. Highlights later followed tomorrow by a round-up of all the

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transfer deadline day deals in a special Football Focus at 11:15pm.

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On Tuesday night we have a midweek Match of the Day with a Premier

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League games and all the title challengers in action. That is

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10:45pm on BBC One. If that's not enough, from 6am tomorrow you can

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download this. What a goal! Chelsea have been

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dumped out of the FA Cup! What a goal! Chelsea have been

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stunner, beautiful, superb goal. This is Wolters... Who is this? Has

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he played? The last few seconds, I suppose

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Chelsea are back, that is the message? Yes, a professional

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performance, scored very good goals, should have been a bit more, but

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they will be absolutely delighted with the performance, I'm not sure

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they will be delighted with the draw, albeit it is at home, but they

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are back. We are just about out of time, Wray, thank you

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are back. We are just about out of interventions today, Paul, great to

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see you, thank you, Alan. That's it from us. Not too many surprises in

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the fourth round but plenty of big names still left in the cup micro-,

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it is all brewing up rather nicely. Goodbye.

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