21/09/2011 The League Cup Show

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Good evening. It is round three of the Carling Cup, and that means the

big boys join the competition, including those in Europe this

Those a hideously expensive. It is seen as a way of keeping get off

the public balance sheet. It will season. Birmingham City began the

be interesting to see the debate on defence of their trophy this

evening against Manchester City. It that tomorrow. It will. And we are

has been a busy few nights in the talking about 60 hospitals, caring

Carling Cup and there is plenty to for 12 million patients. That is

talk about. Brighton already have a one-fifth of the population.

Premier League scalp but in this that is Chris Huhne on the front?

competition but having seen off Sunderland, they face stiff

Not happy. The Daily Mail. Another competition from Liverpool.

We have a West London derby to NHS story. Yes. Ministers are to

bring you. Chelsea and Fulham know finally act. This disastrous

computer system. We have known this each other fairly well. They've re-

Kindle their acquaintance at for a long time. There was a

Stamford Bridge this evening. -- stranger sense of deja-vu when we

saw this story but it is now they rekindle their acquaintance.

Leeds United are against the Reds officially going. Some people say

of Manchester United. it has cost us �12 billion. Some

people put the figure higher. It And under pressure, but this was a

has never worked properly and will game that Arsenal had to win

be replaced by cheaper at regional solutions. Hospitals choosing

against Shrewsbury Town in League 2. whatever IT system they need. That

We begin tonight where Albion are would have been a good idea in the

enjoying a real renaissance. Gus Poyet's team faced a real test

against Liverpool. There are a club first place.

synonymous with this competition, Two other papers go for Nick

Clegg's wife who stole the show in having won it a record seven times.

her 46 pound dress. And they are Watching was Jonathan Pearce.

right. She looks terrific. That is a difficult colour for a patient

skinned people to wear. But a good colour for a lead Dem conference.

Brighton and Hove Albion's lovely ground, and they would love a piece

of history to be played here Yes. And also if you are keen to

with that dark hair. -- Lib Dems conference. But she looks lovely.

And a full length shot there. And that leads to our third NHS story.

Many new nurses are arriving in hospitals, incapable of caring for

patients because they spend too much time in the classroom and not

Liverpool frame for the first time since March. Seven changes on the

enough time of the -- on the wards. There are 6,000 people working in

bench. It is Bellamy's first start such positions. A spokesperson says

they have been to hospitals where nurses who were incapable were

doing complex interventions and were only toured locally on the job,

which he thinks is entirely unsuitable. OK. And the Guardian?

That goes on an economic story we just heard about. On both sides of

the Atlantic, the plans to save the economy. We are entering a global

soft patch which must be stopped from entering into a full-blown

slump. They are doing stuff in inside seven minutes. It was well

America. A recent meeting revealed its nine-member committee came

worked. Brighton what caught not watching. It opened up a gap behind.

close to implementing a second -- Brighton were caught. It was

round of quantitative easing. So serious times ahead, no doubt about

that. And this is an amazing story. An unauthorised autobiography.

tucked in very neatly. They have Absolutely. It is true. Julian

arrived on the end of the box. And Assange who was going to publish,

this is the Wikileaks guy, his that is a good reflection. The

on goal! It was not over the line. Where was the goalkeeper there?

What a mess! And they played in Suarez, and that would have been a

beauty. Lovely, patient build up. Suarez in. You could bank on him

scoring there. A good decision by the referee. And it is Suarez!

Tackled from behind. It was a foul and actually came from around the

side. He has driven it. Whoa! What an effort that was! Off the bar.

The ball wobbling in the air. The keeper stood absolutely rooted to

the spot. And now driven back and anchored with a lovely touch onto

the post. That it is a lovely savour. It looked a bit jittery

early on but they really made up for it with this one. Fingertip off

the post and away. He will probably tell them they showed Liverpool too

much respect earlier on. Sometimes they have dropped too deep in the

defence between midfield. But when they have got their challenges in

and started to create... Noone was in and it was scrambled away. A

desperate clearance. This is a really good opportunity. Smith has

worked so hard. Not a bad strike. Lower but it lacked power.

terrible mistake! Noone! And off the bar. What is the tall Uruguayan

doing there? It hits the bar. Here's Noone coming off the wide

positions. They have gone through a couple of challenges but can be

finished? This is much better now from Brighton and Hove Albion. They

are really making a contest of it. Sparrow had an option to go wide,

thought about it and then delivered. This man has been Brighton's most

dangerous player so far. This is the moment that Liverpool fans have

waited to see. It is the arrival of Steven Gerrard 2002 seat season

2011-12. Steven Gerrard is now back on the field of play with the

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but it was not yet cleared. Bellamy needs to hold all alone and he has

been joined on the right hand side. It is 2-0 to Liverpool, and they

are heading through! In the 81st minute, Kuyt makes sure of that. In

the end, shot trickled in off the post. It is enough to break

Brighton hops and send Liverpool penalty. It has to be! Carragher

glares at Spearing. Having left it to be hung out to dry by the

youngster whose mistake it was. Carragher now whipped across. Here

that hard and true. What a lovely penalty. -- he hit that hard and

true. Is it no more of a consolation? Certainly a goal they

deserve. Brighton pushing up to the championship but go out of the

Carling Cup. That goal proves to be I think the reaction to what

happened on Sunday, they deserve great credit for that because they

were so determined. They were trying to make it a bit more

comfortable tonight. The boys did that and I think it is a reflection

of how much respect they have for the football club and a player they

have themselves. They gave opportunities away but in the

second half it was the opposite. It doesn't matter who is in front. We

want to play, pass the ball and create chances. I have got a good

feeling even if we lost. We certainly do but it was Kenny

Derbyshire was happier after the contest. You were at Spurs at the

weekend. That was so much better performance? Yes. You need to

restore pride in football so your next game is the most important.

But it was not convincing. I thought Brighton were a bit afraid

in the first half but in the second, they gave a good account of

themselves. They have got a strong side - six first-time players. In

the end, it is the result everybody wanted. Kenny got the result he

wanted. But in the end, you have to go through. It was all Liverpool to

begin with and they got off to regret start. Craig Bellamy looks

at home in a Liverpool shirt? He is a class act. A lovely pass

here from Suarez, just down the side. Bellamy knows whether goal is,

keeps it low and across the keeper. What happens is, you are playing

away from home and it is a potential upset on a championship.

You score first and it quietens the crowd. The pre-match build-up was

the most talked about roofer I have ever heard about. He said he worked

on Steven Gerrard's house! Yes! A lovely left foot. He just gets a

little touch before it is powered in by Pepe Reina. I was impressed

with him. The shot goes over and as I said, lovely left-foot Maghreb.

You can see how close that is. When you play against your heroes, your

team, for him, I was quite impressed. And to do a bit off, a

good night for Liverpool with the return of their captain, Steven

Gerrard? 6 months out. Carragher and Gerrard are not guaranteed a

place but they need Steven Gerrard and it is welcome for England as

well as Liverpool. Birmingham City must look back of this competition

with a real sense of pride after that compelling victory over

Arsenal back in February. But it was a success that came at some

cost when the Blues were relegated from the Premier League. In defence

of their trophy, it will be difficult from the off as they are

changes for this one. Owen Hargreaves was making his debut. He

scored after 70 minutes. Chris Hughton made eight changes himself.

One of the survivors, Curtis Davies, almost levelled just before the

break. Just before half-time, City made it 2-0. The goal came from

Balotelli. As Birmingham pushed on in the second half, they were

vulnerable to the counter-attack. Carlos Tevez should have opened his

account for the season. But he was Goodison Park in the first half,

but after the break, it was better. Jan Mucha's foul brought a yellow

card for the Slovakian goalkeeper, before Chris Brunt scored from the

spot. West Brom's leader had been established 12 minutes into the

second half, but one minute before time, Marouane Fellaini raised the

roof. Now, the home side had the momentum, and just seconds after

the 90 minutes, Jacques Rogge will rose highest. Only for the chance

to flash past the post. Extra time, but Everton did not wait long to

complete the turn around. New boy Royston Drenthe found old boy Phil

Neville, who relishes his rare Neville, who relishes his rare

appearances on the scoresheet. Indeed, that is Phil Neville's

first League Cup goal in 17 years. The papers will be all over this

one in the morning, Owen one in the morning, Owen

Hargreaves... Yes, no-one can deny him his moment in the limelight.

Two starts in three seasons. By all accounts, he played 60 minutes or

so, and he was a class act. Many fans would say he deserves a break.

It is incredible, he put himself on YouTube, almost signs of

desperation... You have got to have great inner strength we have been

through what he has been through. He has always been injured. To

believe you can get back to that level. It has been tough for him.

He was just unlucky at Manchester United. Hopefully he can build on

this. And who knows where he could end up at the end of the season?

Next stop, west London, and the derby game at Stamford Bridge

between Chelsea and Fulham. Chelsea, still smarting from that defeat to

Manchester United on Sunday. Fulham will be buoyed by their comeback

against Manchester City. Just over one mile separates the two clubs,

and Guy Mowbray travelled a bit further than that to get there.

Just how far will Andre Velasco as Just how far will Andre Velasco as

going the Carling Cup? It is the competition that brought Jose

Mourinho his first trophy, seven seasons ago, with a victory against

Fulham on the way. With one eye on the future, talented prospects

Lukaku, Romeu and Josh McEachran all play for Chelsea. For Fulham,

there are debuts for Orlando Sa and He went for power. Saved by Mark

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with Orlando Sa, he should have squared it. His teammate was

waiting all on his own, six yards from goal. Good work from Orlando

Sa, in combination with Bryan Ruiz. If he had just got his head up, the

in by Sturridge. But the flag is up. It is not going to count. Ever

wonder, did Sturridge have to touch to his right. What a! And Solomon

can see why a few people thought it was in. Bryan Ruiz... Gets it

through to Kerim Frei, and it is a penalty to Fulham! Alex contests it,

but the referee is not in the mood for arguing. Fulham have the chance

to take the lead, and it is a red card for relics. It is a clumsy

You do not get many chances away at Chelsea. The best of them all has

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wonder how many chances as good as Briggs goes past Kalou. What a save

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by Ross Turnbull. Brilliant from understudy. Bertrand once again...

John Terry! What a save, Mark Schwarzer! It just will not go in

at either end. Another chance for Kerim Frei. But Turnbull guts in

the way. Goal-kick. There was a suspicion of handball from Kerim

looks increasingly like we are heading for penalties. Another 15

about the shot. Not matching up to the one that he got against

It was Sidwell who came thundering a penalty shoot-out. Two of the

most experienced players out there - Frank Lampard versus Mark

Schwarzer. It is captain against captain. Lampard's effort is saved.

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Zamora keeps it low, and Fulham penalty, you think of that mess on

that night in Moscow in the Champions League final. But no

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time tonight, Chelsea have the lead. death. I think we could have

guessed that this man would be at next for Chelsea. Top corner, no

doubt. The Costa Rican player who has only just arrived in English

football and spent most of extra time hobbling around, barely able

to jog. He was suffering from cramp in his hamstring and his groin. How

strong is the? How ready is the? Chelsea are celebrating. What is

the decision? No goal. Chelsea are through. It hit the bar and it hits

the line. It does not go in. That tells us by the finest of margins.

Did the chance to win it come in the regulation 90 minutes?

course. The keeper, even the little fellow, 17 years of age, played

well and created chances. But if you play it away against Chelsea,

you have to take your chances and we didn't do that. Have you shown

tonight that this competition matters to Chelsea? I think so. All

competitions matter. All of the boys did fantastically well tonight

and it was good for us to put them on the pitch. It was even better

because they played 120 minutes of a good Intensive game against

Premiership opposition, so I am pretty happy throughout.

That was an entertaining 0-0 draw, as ever you are likely to see.

It was end-to-end, and you know what, they had ten men to play

against all over an hour, and you have to say, if you don't take

advantage of that, you don't deserve to win. Chelsea have this

opportunity just after half-time... This was a clumsy challenge. I

It was a golden opportunity but it was a red card. So a great

opportunity here. The bar gets rattled. And a fabulous chance for

Fulham? Yes. It is an opportunity to take advantage and punish them

for that challenge. I think some Fulham fans thought they would

score when it came to the penalty shoot-out at the end? The Costa

Rican, it is the bar once, twice as stop you can clearly see it bounces

on the line. That was the bit of luck that they needed. And again,

Chelsea celebrated as though it was the semi-final of a competition.

the weekend, Chelsea were carving up opportunity after opportunity.

Yes. Many missed such good opportunities but when you create

those chances and they are not taken, you are quite pleased

because you are creating but it is when you don't create any chances.

On another night they might have scored two or three.

We have had two other games played separate these two. Until

penalties? Yes. Both teams came on good form. They had both made a big

changes. That is the goal from Steve Howard, with the equaliser.

Awful passing from the back there. You think there, right, get fed.

The answer is no! But once again, it is two teams looking to bounce

back, get back into the Premier League. And that there was a

fantastic strike. Just outside the box, all square. So not much to

choose between the two, as we have seen. This is the first miss.

Fernandez belying his experience that he has played there with

Manchester City. He does not matter. It is about composure.

Congratulations to them. And a good win for Southampton against Preston.

Plenty of changes in each. South London's great start to the season

goes on? Yes. They have won six out of their first seven league games,

so they will be very pleased. They obviously need to build on that

success four-match and that is what they are doing, right at the top of

the table. And Preston? Yes, they made something like 10 changes as

well so they were looking to get back into the championship after

the relegation. This man is a quality player. Arabia like him. --

Everybody is playing their squad team. As for the other games on

Tuesday, both Manchester United and Arsenal were in action and it is

safe to say Arsene Wenger was in pressure going into the third round

Hyde against Shrewsbury Town. The Gunners slipped -- slipped to 4th

bottom after Sunday. But it had been claimed that Arsene Wenger's a

job was safe at the beginning of the week. They took a gamble

against a side that knocked out Derby and Swansea in previous

sand -- the left-hand side with Gibbs coming in. A great save there.

The goalkeeper making a great save to tip the ball over the bar.

Arsenal taking the lead at the that has gone in towards the side

netting. Martin Morgan is happy. Turner's side come amazingly close

to breaking the deadlock at the Emirates. He looks the happier of

the two managers so far. Here come of the League 2 side once more,

over on the right hand side. The cross comes in and Collins with

their double stop there is the opening goal! Shrewsbury Town have

scored! It was Morgan who cross the ball in from the right hand side,

left-footed delivery and there's Collins breaking into space and

heading past. Shrewsbury Town lead at the Emirates. What must Arsene

Wenger be thinking now? In deep conversation with his number two,

Pat Rice. Arsenal attacking. And it is Karl Jenkins son, were pinned

the ball into the box. There is Gibbs, 12 yards out, head in the

ball home. The goalkeeper will have been disappointed not to save that

one. It was the left-back who headed the ball home, his first

goal for Arsenal, though the keeper will be very disappointed. The

Premier League side are back on counter-attack but Arsenal win back

possession. Ainsworth came in and Collins was close to scoring a

second goal. Inside the six-yard box. It doesn't get any easier for

him, does it? Turner, by far the happier of the two managers.

Picking up the position midfield and working forwards. It is

Chamberlain with the shot and the Premier League side are in front.

From all of 25 yards, drilling the ball Under Ben Smith. And the

goalkeeper looks disappointed. Is this a taste of what is to come?

Chamberlain, a bright young player, and Arsenal are now in front.

Arsenal on the attack once more. Here's Gibbs working the ball

forwards. He is keeping hold of possession of. There's the third

goal and game over. A great finish there. Making no mistake with the

man on loan from Chelsea. Unfortunately for the League 2 side,

Arsenal are going to find their passage into the next round and

Batman looks on and must be far We were tested and we were

dangerous in the second half and took over and made all the

difference. It was a good mixture of some young players and

experienced players in the game. The most important game for us and

more important is on Saturday. We want to get promoted this season.

We got close last season. We want to play eight the players we can

play when we have the confidence to do so. We gave it a good go but it

wasn't to be. We weren't quite good the middle. This is Michael Owen

and he scores! You can see Owen in the space. And it just crosses the

line inside the post. And Manchester United lead in this

third-round League Cup tie at Elland Road. And now 2-0 from Owen!

And Michael Owen has got them both for Manchester United. 8 poles in

his last eight appearances for Manchester United. It is his second

goal of the night and Manchester United's second goal of the night.

Giggs with the corner and short 2 Park. It has gone to a deflection

and it is in. Ryan Giggs makes it 3-0 at stoppage time in the first

half. Easily getting past White. And then stabs it towards goal and

it is deflected. But it is Giggs' A huge credit to what they did

tonight. They gave us a footballing lesson. We didn't do the simple

things well enough and we found ourselves three ravens 0 down at

half-time. It is incredible. He is fantastically professional. He is

so good wickets. I would love to play her more because there is

always a goal in him. We hear so many statistics about

Michael Owen. Now it is in the papers, Owen for England. Should he

give him a chance? He is the 5th choice striker and among players

who should be played more often. Michael Owen, great career. He

cannot play the amount of games that Ryan Giggs played last year.

Ryan Giggs is 37, Michael Owen is 31. He is great coming off the

bench. I think there's better players. As for Arsenal, when we

thought things could not get any worse, I suppose the Gunners fans

is thinking, oh, no. He has made major signings, and I think most of

the firms are happy with those earnings. It is about making them

Gill. For me, this boy is a future star, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, he

can do everything. You played with his father. Yes, future England

player, no question of about it. Let's have a look at the remaining

games from the third round, starting with Nottingham Forest,

expect excitement. Peter Lovenkrands got the first, with his

head. It sparked off another thrilling night. Forest drew level

straight after the break. It was Robbie Findley who got it. But

Newcastle restored their advantage after Sylvain Marveaux had been

dragged back. Peter Lovenkrands converted. Steve McClaren's men

have lost their last three games, but they refused to go quietly,

earning praise from the manager. Matt Derbyshire got the equaliser,

to take the match to extra time. Three minutes into that, Danny

Simpson got lucky. He could have claimed he meant it, but the smile

suggested it was a fluke. But for the third time, Forest macro

dragged themselves back into the game. Miller eventually teed up

Marcus Tudgay. Newcastle maintained their unbeaten record this season,

with victory pinched just as the game was about to go to penalties.

Fabricio Coloccini killed off the changes for the trip to Aston Villa.

Bolton took the lead early in the second half, through Chris Eagles.

Now, Villa had an unbeaten run to defend, and came close to

equalising with 15 minutes to play, but Gabriel Agbonlahor could not

reach the cross. A few moments later, Gael Kakuta got the decisive

weekend, and Stoke conceded the same number, goals were hard to

come by in this one. Thomas Sorensen made this early save to

help take the match to extra time. Jonathan Walter's spurned a

glorious chance. So, to spot kicks. three matches, but they made up for

it in double-quick time, going ahead to Edwards after just three

minutes. Adam Hammill then scored a fine free kick. It was 3-0 before

half time, a simple tap-in for George Elokobi, following a fine

run from Adlene Guedioura. 18-year- old James Spray was making just his

second appearance for the club, and he scored the fourth 13 minutes

from time. Wolves then went on the prowl for a fifth, and they got it

two minutes before the end. It was Adlene Guedioura who went from goal

provider to goalscorer, in some the first time since January. Steve

King made eight changes from the side which beak Arsenal at the

weekend. Leyton Orient are bumping along the bottom in League One. The

Cup has provided the only successes of the season so far. But they were

dreaming early on after David Mooney was left unmarked. But just

seven minutes later, Roberts bulldozed through and Rochina was

ready to pounce. Then there followed a thunderbolt from summer

signing Simon Vukcevic. There was a link flurry from Leyton Orient,

from what Fraddon -- from Dean Cox, but it was too late. Blackburn were

unbeaten run in nearly 25 years after winning at Crystal Palace in

the league at the weekend. The home side had revenge on their minds.

And Wilfried Zaha opened the scoring. One goal was enough to win

this fixture at the weekend, but tonight, Crystal Palace were

pushing for a second. Calvin Andrew was credited with it, although the

final touch came off McManus. Almost immediately, Boro made sure

there would be a nervy finish. It was Merouane Zemmama who got the

finish. But that was to be the end of the scoring. Tony Mowbray's side

suffered their first defeat of the season. A test of Burnley's nerve

at Turf Moor, as they fell behind inside the first six minutes. It

was a typically slick this is from the MK Dons. But the Championship

players pulled themselves together at the break. After that excellent

free kick, Burnley took charge. Just before the finish, they got

Carlisle in the two previous rounds, Aldershot are well-versed in taking

on higher legal position, but they fell behind just before half-time.

At the break, Dean Holdsworth asked his players if they wanted to

create history. Aldershot have never been beyond the third round.

They responded just two minutes into the second half. Michael

Rankin showed agility with both goal and celebration. With just

over 10 minutes remaining, Rossouw and rifled home and the turnaround

was complete. As for Aldershot, they are in uncharted territory.

You have got to give them their due, they are doing fantastically well

this year, Aldershot. We have got to have another look at that goal.

Terrific strike. Yes, worthy of winning any game. Dean Holdsworth,

the manager, former Wimbledon player. He asked the players at

half-time to create history for the club. They knocked West Ham out in

the first round as well. It is fantastic for them. Hopefully the

draw will be kind for them. suppose no top-flight club would

want to go to Aldershot. Well, with 11 Premier League clubs left in it,

I bet you they will choose to go there, rather than play Manchester

United! Let's have another look at this Wolves match. Yes, that was a

fantastic strike. Lovely strike, pick of the bunch. Having been

beaten much so for at home to Crewe PR, Mick McCarthy will have been

delighted. -- at home to QPR. about your favourites for this

competition? 11 of the last 16 are Premier League teams. Yes, all the

big guns. You have got to look at Manchester United. When you come to

the quarter-finals and semi-finals, everyone wants the big names to be

in there. Last year, we had Birmingham City. But I would love

to see Arsenal win something. But the way they are playing at the

moment, I don't know. Who was your money on at the beginning? I think

it was Man City. I will stick with that. They have got the squad, the

determination. Owen Hargreaves as well. It is a terrific story.

Before we go, a quick reminder, the teams are back on league duty at

the weekend, and there is gentler football on the BBC on Saturday

evening, as Watford take on Nottingham Forest. As for us, we

will be back as usual on Saturday night with The Football League Show.

And by the way, we will also bring you news of the draw for the fourth

round, which takes place on Saturday. That's it for tonight. So,