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'I'm on a journey through South America. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
'In this programme, I'm on my way through Colombia and then to Venezuela. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
'My purpose is to get behind the headlines | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
'and beyond the stereotypes - | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
'find out what these two countries are really like, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
'from life on the range'... | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
This has about a one-in-a-thousand chance. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
..'to fishing in the Caribbean'... | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
Wow, what a catch! | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
..'from the most dangerous slums'... | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
I'm with the police on patrol in a barrio | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
which is notorious for gang warfare. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
..'to the toll exacted by terrorists.' | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
'But I also find happiness, hope and confidence'... | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
LATIN-STYLE MUSIC | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
..'houses that cost a fortune'... | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
..'and inspiring leaders who are genuinely transforming the quality of life'... | 0:00:56 | 0:01:01 | |
This is basic democracy. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
..'a guerrilla fighter who left the jungle | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
'and is now training to become a chef'... | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
..'an orchestra which exchanges violence for violins'... | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
THEY PLAY CLASSICAL MUSIC | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
..'and a guide who naturally knows it all.' | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
'One discovery after another.' | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
ORCHESTRA PLAYS STIRRING CODA | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
HELICOPTER ROTORS THRUM | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
I'm flying over a country which has become synonymous | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
with words like "kidnap", "murder", "terror" and "drugs", | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
the cocaine capital of the world, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
much of which, until very recently, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
was virtually a no-go area, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
a country that you visited at your peril. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
This is Colombia. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
For decades, Colombia has been stricken by a civil war | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
which has devastated the nation. Only cocaine barons thrived. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
'But over the last decade, after a merciless campaign by the government, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
'Colombia has changed dramatically. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
'There are still gangs. There's still terrorism.' | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
'But an economy that had virtually collapsed | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
'has started to thrive. Today, Colombia's growth rate is promising, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
'almost five percent last year.' | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
I'm going to meet an estate agent. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
Gracias, senor! | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
-Hi, Nancy. -Hi, Jonathan. Welcome to Colombia. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
-Thank you. -OK. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
It's nice to be here. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
'Nancy Prieto used to sell property for the likes of Donald Trump | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
'in North America. She returned to Bogota six years ago | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
'to set up on her own account.' | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
Nancy, I notice when I open the window of the car, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
it doesn't open all the way. It doesn't open... | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
Ah, no. It's impossible to go down... | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
-Why? -For security. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
-It's an armoured car? -Yes. It's an armoured car. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
The capital, Bogota, has yet to lose its murderous reputation. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
But while Nancy wants to make fearful foreign clients feel safe, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
the risk of kidnap or worse is, in fact, diminishing. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
Combine this with a strong economic growth, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
and you get a property boom. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
And compared with the other countries in South America - | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
-This is the most expensive. -More than Brazil and Chile? | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
-Yes, in South America. -So you have a very good business. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
Yes, it is a boon for me. Yes. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
'This is one of the houses on Nancy's books. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
'Designed by an eminent architect, it's on the market for 6 million.' | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
Nancy, I want you to treat me as a client. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
-Yes. -OK. Persuade me | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
I want to spend 6 million. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
And look at this. It is a big space. It's very comfortable. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
SHE SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
'In Colombia's aggressively free economy, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
'this mansion will probably be bought by a rich Colombian | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
'or a foreign tycoon lured here by tax breaks for big investors.' | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
I like to have the drapes. This isn't good for a study. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
And what about the lighting at night? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
-Six million... -Dollars. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
'No wonder Nancy's happy. In less than a decade, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
'house prices have gone up fourfold. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
'But there is another Bogota. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
'In a city with more than seven million inhabitants, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
'half live below the poverty line, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
'which in Colombia is less than seven dollars a day.' | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
But London tends to have rain that is not so torrential. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
Yeah, sure. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
'To the poor, Enrique Penalosa is a hero. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
'As mayor of the city a decade ago, he was an innovator, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
'transforming daily life in much of Bogota. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
'This year he's on the campaign trail once again.' | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
It's difficult for you to have a ride on a bike. They want to stop you all the time. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
What was it like here before you started this whole project, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
if you were a poor person living in this part of the city? | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
Well, in this part of the city, was horrible, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
first of all because it used to flood. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
There were not the pumping stations. Every time it rained, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
it would flood, and there was no pavement. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
Of course, in the city there were no bikeways. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
'The former mayor is a visionary planner | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
'of international repute. His overriding priority | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
'has been transport, notably bikeways.' | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
What difference has it made to people's lives? | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
The bikeway not only protects the cyclist | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
but it raises the social status of the cyclist. It became a symbol | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
that shows that people on a bicycle were not inferior. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
They were, er, citizens who have rights. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
'Cycling is cheap, so the minimum wage goes much further. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
'But Penalosa also put public money | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
'into new libraries, parks and schools.' | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
And instead of new roads, he established a bendy-bus network | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
to compete with city-clogging cars. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
I believe in a city where 80 percent of homes don't have cars. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
What it shows is respect for human dignity. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
Democracy's not just defined that people go vote. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
The first article in every constitution says | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
that all citizens are equal before the law. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
If that is true, for example, a bus with 100 passengers | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
has a right to 100 times more road space | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
than a car with one. This is basic democracy. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
'You have to be wary of politicians promising a better tomorrow, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
'especially when they're after your vote. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
'But Penalosa does seem to be the real deal.' | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
-Hello. -Gracias. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
Has life changed a lot since ten years ago? | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
MAN REPLYING IN SPANISH | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
'Fans they may be, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
'but Bogota's voters are refreshingly free of deference.' | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
WOMAN SPEAKING SPANISH | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
I didn't expect that at all. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
I was expecting we would see the route, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
see what's been happening to the infrastructure. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
We stop and people rush around, and the imploring looks on their face. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
"Can he solve the problems we have now?" Some have been solved, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
but there are a lot more. Oh... | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
I wouldn't want to be a politician here. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
Bogota is something of a home from home. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
It rains and it rains, which doesn't stop people making the most | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
of the city's newfound security and its nightlife. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
When things were really bad here, when kidnappings were rife | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
and it was the murder capital of the world, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
those who could afford to fled the country in their thousands. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
They started to come back, and some came back | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
before it was really safe, determined to make a go of it. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
And one of them is the guy who owns this restaurant here, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
which is part of a chain which is now very, very successful. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
This is the hot kitchen, the wok section. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
-Right. So, when did you open this? -This restaurant opened in 2003. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
-And you've got how many now? -Nine restaurants in Bogota. -Nine. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
We went up from 120 covers | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
to, like, 2,000 covers a day. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
-Wow. From 120 to 2,000? -Yes. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
Ben Villegas' restaurants offer a gourmet feast | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
to Bogota's newly prosperous middle class... | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
..the best Asian food for £12 a head. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
And instead of importing his ingredients, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
he pays poor farmers to grow them locally - | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
good for the environment, good for jobs. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
This is a project that they substitute cocaine cultivation | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
for green peppercorns. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
Because they can make the money out of the peppercorns | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
-which rivals the money they would get from the coca? -Exactly. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
'Ben belongs to a new generation | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
'helping to rebuild Colombia's broken society. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
'He's helping run a charitable project | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
'which offers an escape from his country's endemic conflict. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
'Once part of a guerrilla army of global notoriety, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
'Nixon is training to be a chef.' | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
'Nixon is 23. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
'He was wounded in a gun battle and captured by the army.' | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
Once you'd been captured, did you want to try and get back to FARC, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
back to the guerrillas again? | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
What's your own ambition now? | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
To reach my next destination, I had to fly. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
It was not only the rainy season, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
but the longest and wettest in living memory. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
A huge swathe of the country was under water. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
This is Colombia's coffee country, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
where, in these hills, they produced some of the very best in the world. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
'Don Roja's farm is so remote that you can't get there by road, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
'even in the dry weather. This is the only way up. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
HE SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
-Ah, the coffee bean. -Si! | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
Si. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
'It has rained almost every day for a year. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
'Climate change or not, this unprecedented deluge | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
'has devastated the harvest and caused a slew of avalanches.' | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
'And then, for me, an unexpected sight. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
'A reminder that guerrillas are still at large | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
'on almost a third of Colombian territory.' | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
THEY CONVERSE IN SPANISH | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
The soldiers patrol this part of the valley | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
to protect it, and to prevent any possible incursion | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
from across the other side, which is in another department | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
and apparently slightly less secure than this is. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
'What was once an ideological conflict between FARC | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
'and an equally murderous gang of paramilitaries | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
'has gradually degenerated into a crude struggle | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
'to run the cocaine traffic.' Gracias. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
'Caught in their crossfire, some five million people | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
'have fled their homes - | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
'one in eight of the population.' | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
'Only Sudan now has more displaced people than Colombia.' | 0:14:52 | 0:14:57 | |
-MURMUR OF CONVERSATION -How long have you been here? | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
And why did you move from there? | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
And what did it mean to your daily life? | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
'This region is renowned | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
'for producing some of the very best coffee in all Colombia, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
'the third-largest exporter in the world.' | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
'Don Roja uses traditional methods | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
'to grow, dry and mill the beans'... | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
..'a process that has won an international reputation | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
'for the cooperative to which he belongs. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
'The price of coffee globally is soaring, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
'but this small farm still provides an extremely modest living | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
'for Don Roja and his family. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
'Coffee-tasting is a ritual which his daughter Yemi explains with touching pride.' | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
Oh! | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
HE INHALES APPRECIATIVELY | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
I think you should be in charge of sales. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
It's very, very good. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
THEY LAUGH AND CHATTER | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
'The region's coffee capital is the town of Genova. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
'By chance, I arrived in time for a fiesta - | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
'the entire community strutting its stuff. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
'Not very long ago, until they were driven out by the army, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
'this was a guerrilla stronghold, the birthplace of FARC's first leader.' | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
LIVELY LATIN-STYLE MUSIC PLAYING | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
It is quite extraordinary to think that, ten years ago, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
this would have been quite impossible. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
People, as soon as it was dark, went home, locked their doors, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
and didn't go out. They were much too frightened. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
Total transformation. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
By road, the journey from Genova to Colombia's second city | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
is six hours. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
'This is Medellin, a name that still sends a shiver down the spine, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
'though by all accounts it's changed dramatically | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
'over the last few years. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
This city was once the fiefdom of Pablo Escobar, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
the world's most notorious drugs baron. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
When he was killed in the early '90s, the FARC, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
the guerrillas, moved in and controlled large parts of the city. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
They were then driven out by the paramilitaries, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
and about eight, nine, ten years ago, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
the paramilitaries were disbanded, and in their place, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
a large part of the city was given over to gangs. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
And I'm here to see what it's really like now. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
# Politic need votes... | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
-GUNFIRE SOUND EFFECT -# Politic needs your mind | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
# Politic needs human beings | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
# Politic needs blood # | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
I'm meeting a guy called Camillo who happens to be an undertaker, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
and he said I'd recognise him by his car, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
-but I didn't expect this. -HE LAUGHS | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
-Camillo! -Hi. How are you today? -Very nice to meet you. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
-What an amazing vehicle! -Glad you like it. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
-Can I get in? -Yes, absolutely. -Thank you. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
-It's the first time I've travelled in a hearse. -Good. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
-THEY LAUGH -Wow! -Like it? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
Is this the only vintage car in your fleet? | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
-No. Actually, we have 24. -24 of these?! | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
-24, yes. -Wow! -The oldest is a 1938 Packard. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
And do people like the thought of their loved ones going to their rest | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
-in one of these? -Yes. It is becoming very popular. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
'Too many of the corpses his firm has carried to the cemetery | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
'are of young men and women killed in violent gun battles. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
'Camillo himself was nearly one of them.' | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
I almost got killed 20 years ago. I was shot nine times. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
I was in a nightclub, sitting with some friends of mine, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
and a group of gunmen came into the place, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
and they shot everyone in there, and they shot me nine times. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
I'm so lucky I survived. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
'The gangsters shot 27 people. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
'Camillo was only one of four to survive.' | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
The Colombian government and the Americans | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
-have the so-called Plan Colombia. -Mm-hm. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
Billions have been spent on weapons, training, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
attempts to eradicate the coca. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
Yes. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
Has it worked? | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
If they keep on investing only on the military side of it, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
it will never work, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
because it's a business, and as long as there's people in the world | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
who buy drugs, there's going to be a supplier, all the time. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
And that business makes a lot of money. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
CHURCH BELLS TOLLING | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
The cemetery offers dreadful testimony | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
to the human price exacted by Colombia's drug wars. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
-Lot of young men you see here. -Yes. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
There. He can't be - what, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
-more than about... -Probably he was a gangster. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
I can tell by the clothes and how he wears. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
And it's very common, especially in this cemetery. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
With all that long history of killing and dying, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
how do people now regard the fact of death, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
the fact of the end? | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
Well, for some reason, people are trying to avoid rituals, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
trying to stay away from funerals. So now, you see, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
-the ritual is fading, actually. -So a kind of denial? -Yes. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
And is that because... In significant measure, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
is that because people have just seen too many people dying, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
-too much violence? -They have seen so many funerals, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
so they are just fed up with that. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
'Last June, an international commission | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
'led by Kofi Annan, the former US Secretary of State George Shultz | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
'and the former president of Colombia itself | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
'concluded that the global war on drugs can never be won, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
'and that their use should no longer be a criminal offence.' | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
Maybe perspective gets distorted, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
but when you are aware of the horror and misery | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
that's been perpetrated in this country | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
because of the cocaine habit of those in the West, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
those millions of people, you have to wonder | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
whether there is not a better alternative, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
that radical alternative. Why not say to those people | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
who want to stuff their noses with coke, "Well, do it." | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
It's no different than alcohol or cigarettes. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
Immediately that would liberate the people of this country | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
from the grip of the drug barons, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
and these graveyards then would not be filled | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
with people killed young through violence, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
but with more of them simply dying in a natural way. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
Most of those who die violently in Colombia are poor. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
Many of them live in slums, the barrios | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
that hug the hillsides around big cities. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
The barrios became no-go areas - isolated, lawless and dangerous. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:42 | |
But in Medellin, they're doing something about it. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
This is not any old cable car. It was built as a public service, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
the first in the world, and it's part of an extraordinary experiment | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
to try and solve a grave economic and social problem | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
in this city - extreme violence in the barrios up here. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
Has this cable car made a difference to your lives? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
The cable car is notably clean and cheap, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
and, as you reach the barrio, you pass an impressive landmark - | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
a new cultural centre. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
The barrio also offers a great view over the city. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
'A tourist spot in the making, it provides a new opportunity | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
'for enterprising tour guides.' | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
Oh, buenos. Hola. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:52 | |
Si. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:54 | |
Goodbye. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
In English, goodbye. Hasta luego. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
-Hasta luego. -Hasta luego. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
-Hasta luego. -Hasta luego. -Hasta luego. Bye-bye. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
-HE LAUGHS -So enchanting! | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
Santo Domingo has changed. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
But the past is still very much alive in the present. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
There's a mural here which tells the whole ghastly story, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
a cartoon that says, "We must stop taking the lives | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
of so many of our innocent people." | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
And then, further down, "an end to sexual violence", | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
and above that, the landmines. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
Apparently this country has more landmines than any other | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
except for Afghanistan. And then right here, the centrepiece, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
a homage to the victims of the conflict in this commune, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
the dove of peace, and the lives that have been lost | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
between 1992 and 2001. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
And then, at the end here, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
the continuing problems of the kidnappings. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
"I was born free," she says. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
And above that, the displaced people - three million, four million, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
maybe five million people, and the whole thing is called | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
"a story that must never be repeated". | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
Unhappily, Santo Domingo is an exception. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
Other barrios are still no-go areas, controlled by gangs and drugs. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:07 | |
'But here at least, the atmosphere is easy and calm.' | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
A splash of paint, new walkways, cafes and shops, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
the building blocks of civic life. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
And then there is music and dance. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
THEY RAP IN SPANISH | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
The Crew Peligrosos in rehearsal - | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
20 breakdancers who are stars here in the barrio, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
and downtown and abroad. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
They're the ones who painted the mural, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
and their leaders run dance workshops for schoolchildren as well. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
LATIN-STYLE RAP MUSIC PLAYS | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
-Oh! -THEY SHOUT AND CHEER | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
JONATHAN LAUGHS | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
Senor... | 0:27:54 | 0:27:55 | |
JONATHAN LAUGHS YOUNG MAN SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
-I'm watching this... -HE SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
-Boom! -THEY LAUGH | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
Tell me about this place. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
LATIN-STYLE RAP MUSIC | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
THEY CHEER RAP MUSIC CONTINUES | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
Flow, flow, flow! Flow. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
-HE LAUGHS -I am far too brilliant, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
-far too young, to be in your class. -THEY LAUGH | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
-I... I must go. -OK. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
Gracias! | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
It's progress, and it's impressive. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
But Colombia is still violent. There are still killings, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
and that won't stop until the drugs war is over. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
As yet, there's little sign of that. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
Over the Andes and across the border from Colombia is Venezuela. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
'Like so much of South America, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
'Venezuela is blessed with an entrancing landscape - | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
'and in this case, a landscape that conceals untold wealth.' | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
Its capital is Caracas, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
where, once again, the best view is from the cable car. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
If Colombia is defined by cocaine, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
then, Venezuela is defined by oil - | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
unbelievable quantities of it, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
the fifth-largest exporter in the world, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
and reserves that rival anywhere else on the planet. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
Caracas was once a cosmopolitan city | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
much favoured by European travellers. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
An oil bonanza half a century ago led to rapid growth, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
a magnate capital, in South America. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
At first glance, Caracas still seems to be booming. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
But the appearance is deceptive. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
The slogan promises "socialism or death" - | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
on the face of it, a rather stark choice. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
Politically, Venezuela is about one man - Hugo Chavez, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
who was elected in 1998 | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
and says that he wants to run again and again until 2030. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
He's a man of extraordinary charisma, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
a magnetic personality. He's funny, and he uses a rhetoric | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
that really reaches out to the masses. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
LIVELY MUSIC PLAYS THEY SING IN SPANISH | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
'A rally of the faithful - public-sector workers, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
'beneficiaries of what Chavez calls socialism for the 21st century. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:36 | |
'In the last few months, however, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:38 | |
'their leader has started to modify his rhetoric, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
'talking less about socialism and more about success. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
'Nonetheless, the United States is still in the firing line.' | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
THEY CHATTER AND SING | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
It's a measure of Chavez's political genius | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
that he can inspire his loyal followers | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
to come out here to protest against Yankee imperialism | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
at a moment's notice, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
while at the same time, Venezuela's main trading partner | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
is...the United States. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
LIVELY MUSIC | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
By now, oil should have made Venezuela rich beyond compare. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
Instead, the economy is sluggish, and the nation is crippled | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
by inflation at almost 30 percent. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
'There are free schools, free universities, free hospitals | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
'and subsidised food for all, which have made a real difference | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
'to millions of people. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
'But though there's greater equality than a decade ago, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
'the government's own statistics show that quarter of the population | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
'still lives below the poverty line.' | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
The president's revolution seems barely to touch the lives | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
of those two million citizens who live in the ever-growing barrios. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
Caracas is at the top of an unenviable league table. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
With over 17,000 homicides last year, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
it's the murder capital of the world. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
In this barrio, Ojo de Agua, the police patrol in force. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
I'm with the police on patrol in a barrio | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
which is notorious for gang warfare and a very high rate of murder. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:58 | |
And they're coming through here, sweeping through, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
checking people, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
seeing if they can find anyone who's got drugs, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:08 | |
who's got guns. The place is filled with guns | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
and filled with drugs. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
It's also pretty dangerous for the police. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
Here? | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
SHOUTING AND CHEERING | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
There is a history - I'm right, isn't there - | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
of the police being very brutal in this country. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
-Yeah? -Yes. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
The problem is knowing who is and who isn't a criminal. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
THEY CONVERSE IN SPANISH | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
The police stop-and-search neglects the niceties. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:27 | |
SHOUTING | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
SEVERAL VOICES PROTESTING | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
In this case, the couple was released without charge. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
It looks pretty heavy-duty, mob-handed, pretty fierce. | 0:35:55 | 0:36:02 | |
But you have to remember that, in this area last year, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:07 | |
eight police officers were killed. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
'Many of them died in these almost impossibly narrow alleyways, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
'which are death-traps in a gun battle.' | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
'Commander Enrique Rodriguez, who runs this patch, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
'is himself lucky to be alive.' | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
How many times? | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
-Seven times? -Seven time, yes. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
'The commander is not a cardboard-cut-out cop. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
'He seems genuinely to care about the predicament of the barrios. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
'Though international statistics show | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
'that the proportion of those living in poverty | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
'has fallen sharply over the last decade, | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
'he is unconvinced.' | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
Poverty and gangs - it's a lethal combination. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
What else to expect? | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
No jobs, no money, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
no hope. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
It doesn't say much to me about the success | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
of socialism in the 21st century. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
It was something of a relief to leave Caracas | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
for the space and grandeur of Venezuela's vast rural hinterland. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
When Christopher Columbus reached Venezuela, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
he said, "This is an earthly paradise." | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
And he was right. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
This country is massively blessed with wildlife of all kinds, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
plants, flowers, trees, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
insects, birds, mammals. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
It's a biodiversity, shared with much of South America, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
that is of vital importance to the planet. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
In Venezuela's case, that's because the topography and climate | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
ranges from the high Andes to the Amazonian rainforest | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
to the Caribbean, and that's where I'm heading now. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
'Venezuela's Caribbean coastline runs for 1,700 miles. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
'It's not only dazzling, but productive as well, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
'which matters greatly to Dixon, | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
'a fisherman from the village of Chuao.' | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
As on so many other coasts, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
the great industrial trawlers used to come in here | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
and literally scrape the bottom of all the fish in the sea, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
with the result that fishermen here, like Dixon, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
were virtually on the floor so far as their own business was concerned, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
because there weren't any fish. And then Chavez, the president, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
said, "Right, we're going to stop that," | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
and he's actually banned all industrial fishing boats | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
from fishing inshore - with the approval of the United Nations. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
Has the fishing for you got better recently? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
Goodbye! Hasta luego! | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
'That may be a touch exaggerated, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
'but these fishermen certainly do bless the president. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
'Thanks to him, they've got new boats and gear worth 35,000, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
'all bought with soft loans from the government - | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
'a largesse which, according to the critics, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
'is often wasted on idlers.' | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
Chavez has spent a lot of money. Does it all go to the right people? | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
The fishermen of Chuao belong to a cooperative, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
and they fish as a team, encircling the shoal, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
their nets strung between the Chavez boats. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
MAN SHOUTS IN SPANISH | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
It's a delicate operation. The fish often break free of the noose | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
and escape. Dixon went in to check progress. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
What sort of catch? | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
A thousand kilos is worth, on average, 1,600, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
a haul which they share out between them. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
It's not a bad living. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
No wonder the fishermen of Chuao are Chavistas to a man. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:26 | |
Wow, what a catch! | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
Good God! | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
It's refreshing water, because the temperature here... | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
I don't know what it is. It's very hot and very humid, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
so I'm up to my knees like a granddad, and it's wonderful. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
'With subsidies bestowed like manna on this community, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
'you might expect every voice to be as one.' | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
But at the beach cafe, there was a distinctly discordant note | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
from the boss, when I asked him about the president. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
What do you... What do you think of Chavez? | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
Why? | 0:42:38 | 0:42:39 | |
Really? But this is a free country. You can say what you like. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
You think if you speak freely... What will happen? | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
If you want to do good business and have your livelihood, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
you have to be careful that you don't make unnecessary... | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
er, enemies, with those who have power or authority in the area? | 0:43:05 | 0:43:10 | |
-Senor, could I have something to eat? Pescado? -OK. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:17 | |
Gracias. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
That is so interesting. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
On the surface it's all easy, free. You can say what you like. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:27 | |
But in reality, you have to be just a little bit careful | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
if you want to get on. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
And in this very complicated country, | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
which is so difficult to penetrate, | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
I think that's one of the key factors. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
'Chuao is not only known for its fish. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
'The surrounding jungle is no less precious and productive | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
'than the sea.' | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
This land all round here is famous for producing | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
what is said to be the very best cocoa in the whole world. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
The cocoa bean in question is the Criollo, | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
and it's only found in this unique microclimate. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
And because it produces chocolate to die for, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
it costs four times as much as other, lesser cocoas. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
This plantation is unique in the entire world. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:22 | |
This is a quality of cocoa | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
every fine chocolate-maker dreams of. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
'Kai Rosenberg has spent the last 20 years | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
'recovering the original rootstock of the Criollo bean. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
'It's been his passion. But his vision is now in tatters. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
'His land and his house have been seized by the government.' | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
It's a truly Kafkaesque Venezuelan story. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
Kai bought this land, has the property deeds. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
He was given permission to grow the cocoa. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
But it's on the national park, and so he grows on a little area, | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
and there's the wild jungle beyond that up into the mountains. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
20 years on, suddenly the state says to him, | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
"You shouldn't be growing cocoa there. It's national park." | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
He says, "Well, actually, it's mine." | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
"You gave me the permission." No good. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
He's told the land is confiscated. "You must leave." | 0:45:14 | 0:45:18 | |
What was your feeling about that? | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
Well, absolute disbelief, | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
because we fulfilled every condition to be protected by the government. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:29 | |
We have agricultural activity, we create employment, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:33 | |
we respect the environment. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
My impression is that the state | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
systematically confiscates emblematic enterprises | 0:45:39 | 0:45:44 | |
because they cannot allow that good things come from the private sector. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:49 | |
'On another side of the mountain, another side of the cocoa story. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
'In Chuao village, there's a cocoa cooperative.' | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
Like the fishing, it's been subsidised by the state. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
-Few doubts about Chavez here. -WOMAN SINGING | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
SHE SINGS IN SPANISH | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
Can you tell me what your song was, | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
while you're preparing the cocoa bean? | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
And how many days do you have to leave it out here to dry? | 0:46:25 | 0:46:30 | |
Let's see whether I can. OK, so... I do it like that first? | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
SHE SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
It is satisfying. I want to now get a perfect circle. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
Uh-huh! | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
Si. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
They look like stone sculptures, but in fact... | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
..this is pure cocoa bean. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:04 | |
Aha! | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
-Shall I try it? -Mmm. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
Mmm, it's immediate! | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
Rich, deep, dark... chocolate flavour, | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
with a slight bitterness. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
Amargo? | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
What you would have to do with this is take the shell off, | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
put it in a very fancy box, and it's the best chocolate you could buy. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
I believe you. I really do. Do you eat chocolate a lot? | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
-Si! -THEY LAUGH | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
Where do I go, Leila? Leila, tell me where to go. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
'The story of cocoa in this community | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
'reflects the deep divisions provoked by Venezuela's president. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
'One thriving cooperative, one dispossessed entrepreneur.' | 0:48:07 | 0:48:12 | |
'You are never far from the presence. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
'The president permeates the life of the nation. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
'And you are constantly reminded of how he does it. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
'Just pull into a service station and see what you pay for. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:32 | |
'Yes - subsidised fuel. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
'Petrol in Venezuela costs about two pence a litre.' | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
So, I'm full up. 39 and a half litres. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
3.8 bolivars. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
Senor, gracias. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:56 | |
'That's about 55 pence to fill half a tank - | 0:48:56 | 0:49:01 | |
'the cheapest petrol in the world.' | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
I'm driving down into a region of Venezuela known as The Plains. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:14 | |
It's a vast area, roughly the size of Italy. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
But for many Venezuelans, it contains the soul, the essence, | 0:49:17 | 0:49:22 | |
of the nation. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
This is cattle country on the grand scale. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
'The llaneros, real-deal cowboys, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
'herd their animals from pasture to pasture | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
'on vast ranches in a wild land.' | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
For me it's very enjoyable doing this, but it's your job every day. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
What's it like for you? | 0:49:58 | 0:49:59 | |
-HE LAUGHS -That's kind of you. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
But there's a lot of skill involved too, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
because you have to get in exactly the right place. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
THEY SHOUT AND WHISTLE | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
If they break through, they're gone. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
'This way of life has barely changed for generations. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:59 | |
'The llaneros are tough. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
'That great liberator of South America, Simon Bolivar, | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
'was in awe of them. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
'They work on low wages for big landowners, | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
'but remain proudly independent, | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
'handing on their skills from father to son - | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
'but, er, not to me.' | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
-Si. -Si? | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
OK. This has about a one-in-a-thousand chance. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
LLANERO SHOUTS | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
JONATHAN LAUGHS | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
I told you one in a thousand. It's actually one in ten thousand. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:39 | |
CALF MOOS | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
You get a flavour of a life. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
You're not living the life, but you do get a real flavour, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
because it's hot and it's humid, and you're doing this every day, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
out there rounding up cattle. It is a very harsh life. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:55 | |
No wonder Simon Bolivar said that the llaneros, | 0:51:56 | 0:52:00 | |
the people here, were his bravest, toughest fighters, | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
as he drove the Spanish out. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
I wouldn't have been much good. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
Land reform is at the heart of the socialist revolution in Venezuela. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:14 | |
To this end, millions of acres have been forcibly expropriated - | 0:52:14 | 0:52:19 | |
ostensibly taking from the rich to give to the poor. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
'In parallel, however, | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
'though Venezuela should easily feed itself, | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
'two thirds of the nation's food is now imported from abroad.' | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
You've heard about the farms that are being expropriated. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:37 | |
So what do you think will happen | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
if more and more of the land is expropriated in this way? | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
What will happen? | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
That seems to me to say so much about Venezuela - | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
apparent tranquillity on the surface, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
seething underneath. Uncertainties, fears, resentments, | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
frustrations, no sense of what the future's going to be like. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
And absolutely no feeling that there's any harmony. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
Come on, then. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
But you can find harmony, and in the most unlikely places - | 0:53:58 | 0:54:03 | |
for example in Guarenas, an impoverished township | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
outside Caracas. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
Nor can any politician claim the credit | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
for a remarkable project for which Venezuela is renowned | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
across the world. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
El Sistema was established in 1975, | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
its purpose to offer music as an alternative to violence and crime. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
Today, the programme embraces 350,000 children | 0:54:26 | 0:54:31 | |
in a nationwide network of music schools. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
Sujasis is a teacher at the Guarenas music school. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
She began there as a young child playing the viola. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:42 | |
Has El Sistema made a difference to your life? | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
Sujasis teaches the very youngest children. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
THEY PLAY "TWINKLE, TWINKLE, LITTLE STAR" | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
Some of these little ones will go on to become fine musicians, | 0:55:36 | 0:55:40 | |
and all of them will benefit from the social harmonies created by El Sistema. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
El Sistema is now envied and copied by those in other countries | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
who know the power of music to heal wounds and restore hope. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
It's wonderful that everywhere there's something happening, | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
in all these rooms. It's a very energetic place, isn't it? | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
Yes, because here we have kids from maybe three years old, | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
till maybe 28 years old. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
They study the whole day, the whole week. They have classes. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
'Andres Gonzalez is the musical director.' | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
And also right now we have about 2,600 kids studying here. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:20 | |
-That's a lot! 2,600? -Yes. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
Are many of them from very poor backgrounds? | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
Yes, a lot of them. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
Here they have the possibility to be someone important. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
Do you feel that you're helping people escape the gangs, crime... | 0:56:32 | 0:56:37 | |
Yes. You know, there was a kid - maybe he was just nine years old, | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
-so he came with a gun. -Bringing his gun with him? | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
Yes. And we say, "You know, you cannot bring the gun here." | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
"No, but this is my gun. I have to take it with me." | 0:56:48 | 0:56:52 | |
And, after maybe two month, | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
he just stopped bringing here the gun, | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
and, you know... | 0:56:58 | 0:57:00 | |
Because he felt he didn't... By that time he felt he didn't need | 0:57:00 | 0:57:04 | |
to have the gun in order to demonstrate that he was a big man. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
And right now he's playing a lot. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
ORCHESTRA TUNING UP | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
'Andres created this orchestra by bringing together the young | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
'from two hostile neighbourhoods - a remarkable achievement.' | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
THEY PLAY STIRRING CLASSICAL PIECE | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
'It is at once clear, as they rehearse Tchaikovsky's Serenade For Strings, | 0:57:44 | 0:57:48 | |
'that they play with all the panache | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
'of the world-famous Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra, | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
'which is itself a product of El Sistema. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:56 | |
'For me, this was a glorious moment'... | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
..'a vivid reminder of the talent, the energy and the humanity, | 0:58:02 | 0:58:07 | |
'which, whatever the challenges and tribulations, | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
'reverberate across this continent.' | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
Next week, the South American giant, Brazil. | 0:58:33 | 0:58:37 | |
THEY PLAY LIVELY CLASSICAL PIECE | 0:58:37 | 0:58:40 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:58:53 | 0:58:57 | |
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