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Childhood holidays... Oh, ho! The anticipation seemed endless. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
The holiday itself...well, it was over too quickly. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
So, in this series, I'm going to be reliving those wonderful times | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
with some much-loved famous faces. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
THEY SCREAM | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
Every day, I'll be arranging a few surprises | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
to transport them back in time. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
Oh, look! Ha-ha! It's just as I remember! Ha-ha! | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
We'll relive the fun... | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
..the games... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:32 | |
-BOTH: Yes! -We got them! | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
..and the food of years gone by. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
Yummy! | 0:00:37 | 0:00:38 | |
Welcome to 1959. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
-Total happiness. -Yes. Perfect. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
..to find out how those holidays around the UK | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
helped shape the people we know so well today. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
Bruce Forsyth. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:51 | |
IMITATING BRUCE FORSYTH: "Len, you're still my favourite." | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
So, buckle up for Holiday Of My Lifetime. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
You know, Len, I'm quite enjoying being on my holidays with you. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
Today's holiday has brought me across the Irish Sea | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
to Northern Ireland, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:07 | |
where I'm steaming towards my special mystery guest. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
The holidaymaker who I'm meeting today is a woman of many words. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
She's a real smooth talker. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
Here she is before she got the gift of the gab. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
She was born in Northern Ireland in 1940 and as a small girl, she | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
had aspirations to set the stage alight as a professional singer. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
This little pocket rocket released a single in 1969, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
which got to number SEVEN | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
in the Ulster charts. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
Ho-ho! | 0:01:41 | 0:01:42 | |
And this set the wheels turning on a glorious career | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
in broadcasting. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
In 1992, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
she became the first woman to have a daily show on Radio 2. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
But you will also know her as a busy TV presenter, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
working on a Sunday Sunday, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
inviting guests to her Open House. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
Come on, you must know it by now. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
She's been on Loose Women, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
she's been on Strictly, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:13 | |
and now she's stopping us from getting ripped off. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
Oh, yes, it's that Irish lass with plenty of class... | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
It's Gloria Hunniford! | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
Born Mary Winifred Gloria Hunniford | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
in a small terraced house in Portadown, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
Gloria was raised by her mother, May, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
and her advertising manager father, Charlie, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
who was also a part-time magician. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
Growing up alongside her older sister, Lena, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
and younger brother Charles, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
Gloria remembers her strict religious upbringing as a happy one, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
where she loved nothing more than performing for whoever would watch. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
All good training for the long career in broadcasting | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
that lay in front of her. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
At last you have come to God's own country, you see? How are you? | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
-Lovely. -You're looking splendid. -And yourself. -Obviously that tan | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
-is from the Irish sunshine, don't you think? -Of course it is. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
It's like a scene from Brief Encounter here. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
I'm absolutely gobsmacked at the steam train. This is fabulous, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
-isn't it? -Isn't it gorgeous? -Lovely, really lovely. -Now, where were we | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
-off to? -We are off to a place called Newcastle. -Right. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
Where the mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea, literally, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
-so you're going to love it. -Oh, gorgeous. -Lovely. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
And what's the year? | 0:03:27 | 0:03:28 | |
I hate to say it - it's late '40s. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
-Ah! -Don't say it! | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
-No, you're supposed to say, "You're too young..." -Well, you are! | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
-I can't believe it. -Well, I like to kid myself, but it's the late '40s. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
-Right. -But exciting for me. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
-Oh, well, look, your carriage awaits. -And my man awaits, as | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
-well, so off we go! -Off we go. Lovely. -Into this one? -Yes. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
I'll tell you what, this is nothing the 8:30 from Sevenoaks. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
So it's back to 1948 we go. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
Less than an hour's drive from Belfast, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
on the coast of the Irish Sea, is the pretty town of Newcastle. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
Known for its sandy beach and stunning scenery, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
Newcastle lies at the base of the Slieve Donard, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
the highest of the majestic Mourne Mountains. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
Newcastle was anciently called Ballaghbeg - | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
the word ballagh is generally accepted to mean mountain pass | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
and beg is small. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
Today, I'm taking Gloria back to re-live those happy days | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
she had in Newcastle... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:26 | |
You know what? I'm going to start with the jelly. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
I know that's not the way you should start, but I love jelly. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
-I'll go with you. -I love jelly. Mm! | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
..enjoying the sights, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
tastes and smells of her favourite vacation destination... | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
-Could be the Grand Canyon, for all you know. -Yeah. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
-Well, yeah, it's better than the Grand Canyon. -It's lovely. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
Now, Len, come on, we've got that mountain to climb. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
..and remembering what made Gloria's holidays glorious. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
# A, you're adorable | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
# B, you're so beautiful | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
# C, you're a cutie full of charm! # | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
Before any holiday truly begins, first you must set out on a journey. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
We all remember that rush of excitement as you head | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
towards your dream destination. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
For Gloria in 1948, the journey would have started in Portadown | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
where she boarded the train | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
for around an hour's journey to Newcastle. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
So, who would've been with you on your journey? | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
On my holiday journeys, it would have been my mum, of course. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
Strange enough, my dad didn't come on a lot of these holidays. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
I was the middle child, so my sister was seven years older than me | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
and my brother, seven years younger. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
And was you well behaved or were you running up and down? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
Oh, I was probably running up and down, never well behaved. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
And she would've been saying, "Gloria, come back here!" | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
But anyway, it was so exciting | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
because really we were kind of localised, we never went very far. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
-I mean, I didn't know one person who went abroad on a holiday. -No. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
So the excitement, you know, coming on a train like this to go to | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Newcastle for one week only was just marvellous. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
-Did you take all your best clothes? -Well, my mum, she was great. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
You always had your new sandals. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
And my aunt made a lot of clothes, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
so you would have had a lot of summer clothes made. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
My mum's suitcase, funnily enough, instead of her packing all her | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
clothes, her suitcase would've been mostly full of food. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
Talking of that, I've got something here, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
while we're stationary, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
that might bring back happy memories. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
That's a brilliant case, isn't it? | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
-Isn't it gorgeous? -Oh, my goodness. -Let me just turn it so you can see. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
Not family treasures, are they? | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
It is full of family treasures. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
-Oh, my goodness! -Now, is this the sort of thing your...? -Totally! | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
Absolutely correct, because potato farls, which I lo... I still love. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
This is my treat | 0:06:42 | 0:06:43 | |
sometimes on a Sunday - fried, with egg and bacon. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
And she would have made that on the griddle. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
Then, you have, of course, a scone, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
which either would have been plain or currant. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
This is wheaten bread, because you have the lovely wheaten meal. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
And this is...a soda farl. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
I might have a little go at something. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
The scone is lovely. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
I like the currant scones. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
-Go on, then. -Are you going to have one? -I'll have half of yours. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
Yeah, exactly. You need a bit of butter, ideally. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
Yeah, but let's just try it, see if it's up to... | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
Well, it won't be up to your mum's standard. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Nothing is up to my mum's standard. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
On a Saturday, she would have made 14 different kinds of bread. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
-Never! -14. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
That's a whole lot of bread! | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
It was back in the year 1948 that saw the end to post-war flour | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
and bread rationing. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
And it was also the year the UK's first supermarket | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
opened in Manor Park, London, by the Co-operative Society. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
1948 was a big year for the Royal Family, as Princess Elizabeth, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:42 | |
gave birth to her first son. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
Prince Charles was born at Buckingham palace | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
at 9:14 on the 14th of November, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
weighing in at a healthy 7lb 6oz. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
The proclamation was posted on the palace railings | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
just before midnight and the Prince went on to be christened | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
Charles Philip Arthur George. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
A huge hit that year was Nat King Cole's Nature Boy. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
It went on to sell a million copies. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
Billboard DJ's listed it as the greatest record of that year. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
# The greatest thing | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
# You'll ever learn | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
# Is just to love | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
# And be loved. # | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
Our Gloria would have been just eight years old in 1948, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
so her trip to Newcastle would have come during her school holidays. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
So, education. Was you a good student? | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
Well, I went to school when I was four, which was pretty unusual then. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
And I think the reason being that my sister, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
who was seven years older, she had great dreams of being a teacher. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
So this is true. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:54 | |
Every Saturday morning from when I was like this size, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
she would put up the easel and the board and she would give me | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
my homework to do and teach me X, Y and Z. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
And I had to know it by the next Saturday. She had a little cane. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
She used to wallop me if I didn't get it right. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
She did! So therefore, I learned fast. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
So by the time I actually went to school, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
I pretty well knew how to write and I knew a couple of my sums. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
So as I went through my school years... | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
Of course, we had in Portadown a very good college. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
And I suppose, you see, my mum and dad would have said, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
"We don't have the money for you to go to college." | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
In fact, they did say that. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
And so when I got my 11+, as it was then, and I wanted to go to that | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
college, they said, no, they didn't have the money for books, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
didn't have the money for the uniforms. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
Now, because I was a bit of a singer from when I was eight | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
and making my own money, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
I remember saying to them... | 0:09:41 | 0:09:42 | |
I don't know why, I fought for the right to go to that grammar school. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
And I said to my mum, "I will buy my uniform." | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
-Wow. -So I did. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
My grandchildren are amused | 0:09:50 | 0:09:51 | |
when I say that I had to fight for the right to go to school. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
Yeah. Well, you know, to quote an old song, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
"Things ain't what they used to be." | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
And unfortunately, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:00 | |
this train no longer goes all the way to Newcastle. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
You're going to tell me we're going to walk the rest? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
-No, we're going to magic our way from here to there. -Marvellous. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
-Shall I lead the way? -Sure. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
-Absolutely. -"Things ain't what they used to be." | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
# There's Teds in drainpipe trousers | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
# And Debs in coffee houses | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
# Oh, things ain't what they used to be. # | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
They certainly aren't! | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Trains stopped running to Newcastle in the 1960s in favour of buses, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
and the track was taken up. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:31 | |
This beautiful train is now run by volunteers from the Downpatrick | 0:10:31 | 0:10:36 | |
and County Down Railway. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
They've put back most of the track, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
but sadly, it hasn't quite yet reached Newcastle. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
The old train station is now a supermarket, but there's | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
still lots of other things to tickle Gloria's memory banks, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
from the many years of happy holidays | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
she had at a caravan park nearby here. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
-Ho-ho-ho! -What about this, eh? -Eh? | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
Does this bring back some memories? | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
I have to tell you, this is a sight that I never ever get tired of. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
As a child, of course, this is where we came every year for our holidays. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
It was just wonderful when we arrived. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
And the excitement, I could hardly contain it. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
-Has much changed since you came? -Well... | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
-I know the railway station is now a supermarket. -That was changed. -Yeah. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
This view, as I stand here, is just the same. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
Where would you have stayed? | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
Well, this is the strange thing | 0:11:23 | 0:11:24 | |
because although we always went to the caravan, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
my dad must have had a particularly good year | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
because one year he said to us, "We're going to go to a B&B." | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
Well, I couldn't believe it. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:33 | |
It was the most exciting thing that had ever happened to me. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
It was fab. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
So I don't know what he did to earn the extra cash, but anyway, we went. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
So, you didn't stay in this lovely hotel back then? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
You see, here's the point. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:44 | |
My mum and I, we'd be down here every day | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
and we'd walk along the beach. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
And I'd say to Mum, "Look at that marvellous hotel. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
"Could we not just go in there, you know, just for a cup of tea?" | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
And she'd say, "No, darling, that's only for posh people, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
-"so we'll never be in there." -Ha-ha! | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
So coming here now, does this bring back all the memories? | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
All the memories, and they are glorious memories. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
There is not a bad memory amongst them. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Do you know what I mean? It just whisks you right back. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
Newcastle is one of the most magically positioned seaside | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
resorts in the British Isles, with its great mountains and sandy beach, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:21 | |
but it hasn't always been known for its tourism. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
In the mid-19th century, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
heavy gales caused several boats to be lost at sea, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
killing many of Newcastle's residents and wiping | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
out its fishing industry. The town then began to make a living through | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
mining granite, and then tourism became a bit of a money maker. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
Which local lad Tom Walsh knows all about. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
Newcastle became popular in the 1800s | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
because it has seawater baths, it had | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
spa water and this was the practice | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
of the time, encouraged by possibly the medical people | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
to indulge in seawater bathing and drink spa water. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
In 1869, the Belfast and County Down Railway arrived in Newcastle. And | 0:13:00 | 0:13:06 | |
we're told that on the first day from Belfast, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
there were 30 carriages and 800 people were left behind in Belfast. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
I'd have been well cheesed off if I hadn't managed to squeeze onto | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
the train, I can tell you! | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
Now, someone that did manage to get here on holiday | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
back in 1948 was Bernard Davey, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
who was just five years old at the time, but he remembers it well. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
We'd come down onto the shore | 0:13:30 | 0:13:31 | |
every day and, as long as | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
it wasn't blowing a gale, we'd be in. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
And quite often the summers here | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
are pretty good. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
There's no reason why you shouldn't get into the water at some stage. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
And, yes, basically on a daily basis. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
So that was probably 14 good baths before we headed back to the city. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
Part of the magic of any childhood holiday is | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
the excitement of staying somewhere different - the sights, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
the smells and the thrill of having a new bed to lie in. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
Most years that Gloria came to Newcastle, they holidayed | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
in a caravan, but in 1948, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
her father treated them to a week in a B&B. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
The Avoca Lodge has changed a bit since then, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
but it's still in business, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
so I'm taking Gloria to what is now known as the Avoca Hotel. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
Gosh, this definitely feels like the original hall. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
With the stained glass window at the top. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
As a kid of eight, to arrive here with our suitcases, even that, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
-like, that was posh to me. -Yeah? -And I just couldn't wait to get here. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
-It was amazing. -Well, I've spoken to the manageress | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
and we're going to have a look, see if we can find the bedroom. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
I don't remember too much about the bedroom, I have to be honest. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
I've been told on good authority that this is the room, 18. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:51 | |
-I know it was on the front. -Well... -I know that. -Let's go in... | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
-Wow. -..and have a look. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
Oh, my goodness. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
-Oh, look at the view and everything. -Isn't that perfect? -Wow. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
-Let's have a sit down. -First time being on the bed with you. -Oh, yes! | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
-Up until now, you'd stayed in the caravan. -Yes. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
And now, the thing is you've now come to, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
-as a kid is a posh hotel. -This is like a palace. -Yeah. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
Cos our house was two-up, two-down, small, obviously. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
So, did you all stay in this one room? | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
That's what I'm trying to remember. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:28 | |
Because I don't think all five of us could have stayed here. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
My brother would've only been a year old at this point. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
So he would have obviously stayed in here with my parents, who... | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
Or maybe my sister and I. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
We certainly shared a double bed anyway at home, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
so we definitely would have shared the double bed. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
And do you think it was here, you know, staring out maybe at that | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
wonderful view, was that when, you know, as a little girl... | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
Did you know what you wanted to do when you grew up? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Oh, I was going to be a singer. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
Because down at the pier, I would've been down there, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
entering the competitions, strutting my stuff. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
And with my dad being that amateur magician - | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
he was good but he had a daytime job, so he did that in his spare time - | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
so that showbiz thing was in my blood. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
And although I didn't realise it then, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
but from a broadcasting point of view, of course, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
it got you used to the sound of your own voice introducing your songs. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
-Yeah. -And the songs I would've sung would've been... | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
# A, you're adorable | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
# B, you're so beautiful | 0:16:24 | 0:16:25 | |
# C, you're a cutie full of charm | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
# D, you're a darling | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
# And E, you're exciting | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
# And F You're a feather in my arms | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
# It's fun to wander through the alphabet with you | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
# And tell you what you mean to mean to me, ah-ah! # | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
No holiday is complete without sampling the local food, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
those new tastes and textures transform our palette forever. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
For Gloria and her family in 1948, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
they would have started their day by tucking into a famous Ulster fry. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
Do you know how many calories it is? | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
-I'm sure it's not many. -1,700 calories. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
-Look out, here it comes. -Wow! | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
Look at this. Look at that! | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
-Oh! You can see why it's 1,700 calories, can't you? -Yeah, I can. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
Well, as we used to say as kids, "Yum, yum, pig's bum!" | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
Every Ulster fry would obviously have to have the bacon, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
egg and sausage and the tomato. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
But then it is the bread that makes the difference. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
Because you would always have the fried soda bread. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
You would have the potato bread. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
-But it's delicious. -Yes, it is. -It's worth the 1,700 calories, isn't it? | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
My mum would never have let us go off to school without a cooked breakfast. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
-Really? -Not as much as this, of course. -No. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
We'd always have to have a hot breakfast. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
-Well, even in the summer? -It was always cooked breakfast. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
You're marvellous and trim, are you a careful eater nowadays? | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
I am more nowadays. I mean... | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
I was thinking back, I was seven-stone-two when I was | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
living at my mum's house, eating the equivalent of five meals a day. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
But what I forget, or did forget until recently, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
is the fact that we were on the bicycles all the time, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
so two miles to school in the morning, two back at lunchtime, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
two back to school, two home in the afternoon, there's eight. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
Then our life was on bikes. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
So maybe each day, we were doing 15, 20 miles on a bike every day. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
-So no wonder I was seven-stone-two. -Yeah. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
-So now I spin forward. No way could you eat all of this. -No. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
Everything just tastes gorgeous. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Fabulous. Lovely. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:32 | |
It really is very tasty and is definitely on my list | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
of things you must see and do when in Newcastle - | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
in my Top Ten From Len. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
The Ulster fry is famous for setting up millions for a day of hard | 0:18:44 | 0:18:50 | |
work, or play. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:51 | |
And while it may be pretty calorific, thankfully, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
there are plenty of outdoor pursuits to work off the excesses! | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
Oh, yes! | 0:18:59 | 0:19:00 | |
The Silent Valley Reservoir was built to gather | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
water from the Mourne Mountains | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
and is the main water supply source for most of County Down. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
It's an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
with glorious parkland, lakes and a pond. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
Around 50,000 visitors flock here every year. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
And who can blame them? | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
As we all know, British weather can be a tad temperamental, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
but a rainy day can still be a holiday highlight | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
thanks to the Newcastle Community Cinema. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
Based in the beautiful Annesley Hall, overlooking Dundrum Bay | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
and run by six volunteers with a passion for film, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
the cinema shows movies for all age groups. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
In a relaxed atmosphere, the cinema puts old fashioned excitement | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
back into "Saturday night at the movies". | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
Now back on her trips here as a young girl, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
Gloria spent most of her days playing on the sand by the sea. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
Well, here we are, we're on the beach. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
I'm not really prepared for going on the beach, but still I'll be fine. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
But you see, for a child living in the middle, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
right in the middle of Northern Ireland, to come to the | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
beach and see the sea, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
while I have lots of memories of the weather being atrocious... | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
I mean, today, we're blessed with gorgeous weather. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
-But sometimes it wasn't so good. But we'd still dig and play anyway. -Yeah. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
"We've come to Newcastle, you're going to enjoy the beach, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
"so get on with it!" | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
So, what would you have done? Would you have played some games or...? | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
We would have played things like rounders. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
You would have teamed up with other people on the beach. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
That was all part of your holiday, meeting new friends | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
and things like that. So it was lovely. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
It's a lovely day, we're on the beach, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
-do you fancy a game of rounders? -With you? -Yeah, just... -I'm useless. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
I'd be useless, but I'll do it. Yeah, why not? | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
Right, time to work off some of that Ulster fry! | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
I've even managed to round up some local kids to give us a game. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
-I'll try batting, but I'll probably miss it. -Come on. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
-Don't laugh! -No, but... | 0:21:09 | 0:21:10 | |
Watch out, Hunniford, I don't like to lose! | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
Rounders has been played since Tudor times | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
and the first formal rules were drawn up | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
on the Emerald Isle in 1884. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Hey! Ha! | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
Very good! | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
Ready? | 0:21:51 | 0:21:52 | |
Catch it! | 0:21:54 | 0:21:55 | |
-Ah-ha-ha! -Out, out. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
-Do you know what? I'm kind of glad. -I'll bet you are! | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
Somebody else can take over now. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
Surely that worked off most of the calories - | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
at least that's what I'm going to tell myself. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
The central promenade here in Newcastle has been | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
modernised in recent years, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
so the sea front would have looked a little different back in 1948. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
Then again, so did I. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
Here we are, this is the promenade. But I guess it's not as it was. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
No. It is and it isn't | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
because the basic format's the same. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
Obviously this big globe behind us, that wasn't there. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
A bit more sort of sculpture and things around. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
But this, I think, is where the main bandstand was. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
And what was lovely was that | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
-there would be deckchairs all out the front. -Yeah. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
You paid a very small amount of money to go in | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
and then, everybody would sort of sit at the front. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
And then the big bandstand... It was a very | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
luxurious bandstand really. It was lovely. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
The bandstand, which dated back to the early 1900s, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
was removed from the seafront when it fell into disrepair. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
It's since been restored and relocated | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
at a National Trust property 20 miles away | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
but Gloria still remembers all the joy it brought. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
And, although they had set entertainers to come | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
and you'd pay to see the entertainment, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:14 | |
but always, they had that talent competition. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
-Yeah. -And, of course, with so many tourists coming into the town, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
the talent competition changed all the time. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
Even if you were here for a week, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:23 | |
you'd still get different people entering. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
-Of course, muggins here would always be entering. -Yeah. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -You must have been a very confident young lady, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
-I've got to say. -Well. -To stand up there | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
with all these people and sing your heart out. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
I suppose because there was entertainment in my family | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
and, in a way, in Irish households, you have to do your piece | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
inasmuch that you've got a gathering, they'll say, "You have to do a bit now." | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
-Yeah. -You always had to sing, or do a dance, or something. -Yeah. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
You had to do your bit, in other words. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
So you kind of got used to performing. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
And I guess I must have been reasonably confident, yeah. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
But then, at that point, I was just about to go | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
and do semi-professional entertaining all around the country | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
-with my dad. -Yeah. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
So, of course, I wanted to do it, didn't I? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
I've got a bit of sheet music here. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:24:09 | 0:24:10 | |
Did you used to go out and buy sheet music? Because... | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Well, I wish you'd told me about that | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
because at home I have got drawers full of sheet music. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
And what used to happen is... It seems crazy. ..we had a music shop | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
in our town of Portadown, and every Saturday morning | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
I would queue up - queue up - to get the sheet music of the day. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
Whatever was in the charts. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
You know, it would be... What was it? Donald Peers with Shady Nook | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
-and Jimmy Young singing Too Young. -Yeah. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
-But you went to get the sheet music cos that's all you had. -Yeah. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
-We didn't have record players and things like that. -Yeah. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
We didn't at that time. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:45 | |
Gloria clearly had a love of performing from a young age, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
so it seems she was destined to go on to become a star. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
How did you go from being this little girl who was singing | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
and dreaming of being on the stage? | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
How did that go into broadcasting? | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
I made a record in Northern Ireland that went to like number seven | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
in the Ulster charts. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:09 | |
-HE ANNOUNCES: -Number SEVEN! -Number SEVEN! | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
Yeah, seven, lucky number for me. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
So I was brought in on the equivalent of the Today programme | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
to be interviewed about Lisburn. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
By this stage I had two children. Lisburn housewife, two kids. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
How are you going to manage being in the charts? | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
You know, singing, housework. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
And the producer... And you've got to remember, at that point | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
there were virtually no women up front in television or radio, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
certainly in Northern Ireland. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:33 | |
And the producer of this programme thought | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
I wasn't short of a word or two, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:37 | |
rang me up and said, "Have you thought about broadcasting?" | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
Which I never had. And so, he offered me a job. How lucky was I? | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
-Yeah. -And he said, "When can you start?" I went, "How about tomorrow?" | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
And that was it. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:48 | |
-And off you went? -And off I went. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:49 | |
In the end, I, of course, broadcast in Northern Ireland | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
for quite a number of years before I went to England. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
During the '70s and early '80s, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
Gloria presented Good Evening Ulster. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
This was Ulster TV's main weekday news programme. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
At this time of the year, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:05 | |
children everywhere are busy collecting conkers. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
But, here in Atkinson Avenue in Portadown, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
the children may not be able to collect conkers for very much longer. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
-And then you went to Radio 2. -I did. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
It's a funny story about that really because I went to London | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
with my LPs under my arm to try and get airplay in Radio 2. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
And the controller, whom I'd just phoned up out of the blue and said, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
"Can I come and see you?" | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
He said to me, "Do you listen to Radio 2?" | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
I said, "I do, all the time." And I did. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
He said, "What do you think is wrong with it?" | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
The first thing I said to him, cos when you're not looking for a job | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
you'll say a lot more than you might ordinarily. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
I said, "Well, for a start, you don't have any women on Radio 2." | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
So I really dealt it out what was wrong with Radio 2. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
And, three years later, he came looking for me and offered me a job. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
In 1982, Gloria became the first woman | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
to host her own daily radio show on BBC Radio 2. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
And she hosted for 13 years. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
While I was doing Radio 2, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:57 | |
along came the offer to do Sunday Sunday, my own chat show. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
Gloria hosted the ITV talk show Sunday Sunday from 1982 until 1990. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:06 | |
APPLAUSE Well, a very good afternoon to you. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Welcome along to this week's programme. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
And I can tell you that it really is a show | 0:27:15 | 0:27:16 | |
which is top-heavy with star names. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
How they did it, I'll never know, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:20 | |
but they got every wonderful Hollywood name | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
that you could imagine. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:25 | |
Ranging from Audrey Hepburn, Kirk Douglas, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
-Charlton Heston... -Yeah. -..and Jimmy Stewart. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
I mean... And I had... In our town, in Portadown, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
there was nothing to do but go to the movies. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
So I had watched all these old Hollywood icons on the films. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
Little did I think that I'd be sitting there one day. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
If I could relive a broadcasting period, that would be the period. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
Over 55,000 visitors come to Newcastle every year, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
enjoying what this part of the world has to offer. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
A wander along the prom is a must. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
And what seaside stroll could be complete | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
without sampling some ice cream? | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
At The Strand cafe, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
the Nugent family have been making vanilla ice cream | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
since 1930, and have not changed the recipe since. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
The ice cream here has won national awards | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
with vanilla the most popular flavour. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
Ooh, yum yum, pig's bum. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
I love a lick of an ice cream. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
If you're after a bit of culture, then just down the road | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
is the Annalong Corn Mill and harbour. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
Built in the 1800s and operated until the 1960s, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
it was one of the last working water mills in Northern Ireland. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
The building contains many of the original components, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
and is open to the public to view the fascinating inner workings. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
It has a grain-drying kiln, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
three pairs of millstones and a 15ft water wheel, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:59 | |
a form of technology that's over 2,000 years old. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
And, if it is old things you're after, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
the Down County Museum has plenty of them. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
Located within the historic buildings of the 18th century | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
county jail, it has artefacts from the earliest times | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
right up to the present day. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
The jail was opened in 1796 | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
and housed thousands of prisoners up until its closure in 1830. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:26 | |
The museum restored the buildings, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
and you can now see the conditions in which the prisoners were kept. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
You can't come to Newcastle, particularly the promenade, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
without talking about Percy French. And obviously, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
this was not here in my day. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
The memorial statue was erected in 2008 | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
in memory of Irish entertainer Percy French, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
who was famous in the late 19th century | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
for composing and singing humorous Irish songs. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
One of his most famous songs was The Mountains Of Mourne. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
# In the place where the dark Mourne sweeps down to the sea. # | 0:29:58 | 0:30:04 | |
He wrote this song about Newcastle itself. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
You know, where the Mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
-And really, it's known worldwide. -Yeah. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
They've actually, luckily for us, put the words on the sign. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
Yeah, shall we have a go? | 0:30:14 | 0:30:15 | |
-BOTH: -# Oh, Mary, this London's a wonderful sight | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
# With the people all working by day and by night | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
# They don't sow potatoes, or barley, or wheat | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
# But there's gangs of them digging for gold in the street | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
# At least when I asked them that's what I was told | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
# So I just took a hand at this digging for gold | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
# But for all that I've found sure I might as well be | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
# Where the Mountains of Mourne sweep down to the sea. # | 0:30:42 | 0:30:48 | |
Yay! Lovely. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:49 | |
# There's beautiful girls... # | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
CROWD APPLAUDS Thank you. Thank you very much. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
You can put the pennies in the tin. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
Even 66 years on, | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
Gloria's singing still entertains the crowds in Newcastle. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
Now, the famous Mourne Mountains that Percy sang about | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
are the most dramatic mountain range in Northern Ireland, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
with the highest peak being the Slieve Donard. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
Crisscrossed with paths and treks, they're a walker's paradise | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
and a firm favourite with Gloria. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
Now then, here's the test. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
After that Ulster fry, will we get through or not? | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
-Oh, yes. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
-That is what is called a true test. -Yeah. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
I'd only do it sideways. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
Ooh. Oh-hoo. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:33 | |
Do you know, I'm not convinced I burnt off all that fry up earlier. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
I think a brisk walk should do the trick. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
Now, as I understand it, | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
this is the main pathway to climbing Slieve Donard. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
You can't stay on the beach all the time. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
-No. -So, obviously we used to love coming on walks, and climbing trees, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
and playing hide and seek, all the things that kids like to do. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
Look at that. Do you know, I love also the sound of the water | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
-over the rocks. -Yeah. -It's great, isn't it? -Isn't it? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
-Could be the Grand Canyon for all you know. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
-Well, yeah, it's better than the Grand Canyon... -It's beautiful. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
-..cos we're in Ireland. -It's lovely. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
-Len, come on, we've got that mountain to climb. -No, no, wait a minute. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
Look, I've come a good hundred yards. Let's have a... | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
-Let's take a selfie. -OK. Good. -Yeah? | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
Yes. And pretend that we did the mountains. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
And I'm going to make out... Yeah. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
Now. Uh-oh. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:28 | |
Uh-oh, here we go. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
Let me get it well away. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
It's a bit close, Len. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
Look, I'm not a Harlem Globetrotter. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
That's about as far as I can get. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
-There you go! -Hey, we did it. We did it. We did it. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
Lovely. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
So, is it true then, you're giving up at this point? | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
-Well, yeah, but I'm going to look like the big wimp. -No, you won't. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
-No, you won't. -Come on. -I'm going down this way. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
-Come on, we'll go down. -OK. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:56 | |
But I'm thanking heaven you've said that | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
-cos it was quite a hike. -Saved your bacon. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
Not only did Gloria holiday here as a young girl | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
but she took her three children on trips to Newcastle too. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
Her daughter Caron Keating followed in her mum's showbiz footsteps | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
and was a presenter on Blue Peter for four years. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
Sadly, after a seven-year battle with breast cancer, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
Caron passed away in 2004. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
What is wonderful about your career and your life, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
you know, there's been plenty of ups but, of course, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
-there's been some downs and some tragic downs... -Yes... | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
-..with your daughter Caron. -Yes. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:33 | |
Was it your faith that helped you to get through that? | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
I'll be honest with you, I don't know. Because the worst thing, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
singularly for any parent, is the prospect of losing your child. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
And so, when your child is ill, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
you're so used to doing, "There, there, there," | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
and putting the sticking plaster on and, "It'll be fine," | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
that when something hits you like cancer with Caron, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
as a parent you're lost because you don't know what to do. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
You want to do something but you know you can't really go beyond | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
what medically is being done, except you can be there for support | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
and all of that. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
Caron's battle against cancer went on for seven years. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
And it's not that it was all gloom and doom because there were times | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
during the seven years that she was allegedly fine. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
They would cut the cancer out and you're fine. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
And then, one day I woke up and I thought, do you know, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
I could be under a bus long before anything might happen to Caron. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
So I've got to, you know, man up as it were... | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
Woman up, in this case. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
..and be as supportive as I can, as positive as I can. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
And because Caron herself was so... | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
She was so strong that, in the end, she became a teacher. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
-Yeah. -And she taught us all to be strong. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
And I don't know where that strength comes from. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
And to answer your question about faith - | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
yes, you cling onto your faith. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:51 | |
My faith was very strong here in Northern Ireland. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
And some people lose their faith when they lose their loved one, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
lose their child, | 0:34:58 | 0:34:59 | |
but I found I really wanted to hold on to that | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
because I needed to hold on to that, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
and cos I have to believe that I'll see Caron again. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
-Yes. -So I hold on to my faith very strongly. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
-And of course you then started your wonderful charity. -Yes, I did | 0:35:08 | 0:35:13 | |
because that's my healing. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
And I think she's looking down now. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
She'll say, "Well done, Mum." | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
If she's looking down, she'll be looking down | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
in this part of the world because, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:22 | |
as a child, just as my mum brought me here, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
I brought my children here all the time. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
It's a magical area, and it's easy to see | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
it holds a very special place in Gloria's heart. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
Rain, hail or shine, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:39 | |
hordes of people make their way to County Down | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
to spend some time in the Mourne Mountains. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
With dozens of granite peaks squeezed into an area | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
only 15 miles by 5, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
there are so many different paths and treks | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
it would take years to explore them all. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
The 1,300 acres of mountains are said to have influenced | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
CS Lewis to write The Lion, The Witch And The Wardrobe, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
and have provided the backdrop for films | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
including Dame Judi Dench's Philomena. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
After a ramble, you're likely to need some refreshment. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
And you're in luck | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
because hospitality is something that the people of Northern Ireland | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
are good at. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
Located at the foot of the mountains, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
O'Hares offers the perfect mix of food, music | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
and, of course, a wee tipple. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
Make mine a sherry. Hmm, lovely. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
This area is full of history. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
And just north of Newcastle and overlooking the town of Dundrum | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
are the ruins of Dundrum Castle. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
Built at the end of the 12th century, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
it's considered one of the finest Norman castles in Northern Ireland. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
It's had a colourful history | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
that culminated in its sacking by Cromwell's army in the 1650s. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
The circular keep is still intact | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
and offers stunning views out to sea. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
There's a century-old tradition around these parts | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
of seaweed bathing. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
Seaweed was, and still is, used as a soil conditioner. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:14 | |
And farmers found calluses on their hands got better when using it, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
so it wasn't long before the tradition of seaweed bathing began. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
Soak is the only seaweed bathhouse in the UK, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
and is the perfect place to detoxify your body. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
Back in 1948, Gloria longed to go for tea | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
in the neo-Gothic Slieve Donard Hotel. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
It was built in the 1890s to cater for the middle class of Belfast. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:45 | |
The hotel has opened its doors to guests as varied as Charlie Chaplin, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
Desmond Tutu and Daniel O'Donnell. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
A cream tea would have cost around six shillings in 1948, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
too much for Gloria's family to afford. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
So I couldn't bring her here without treating her. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
Oh, my goodness. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:05 | |
It's going to be jelly and ice cream, and I love it! | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:38:09 | 0:38:10 | |
-Thank you very much. -And... | 0:38:10 | 0:38:11 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:38:11 | 0:38:12 | |
-The works. Thank you so much. -The full works. -Thank you. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
Look at that. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
Oh, my goodness, that's gorgeous. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
-That is brilliant. -Isn't this incred... | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
-Between Ulster fry for lunch... -Yeah. -..and a cream tea before we go home. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
This is beautiful. You know what, though, I'll start with the jelly. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
I know that's not the way you should start but I love jelly. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
-I'll go with you. -I love jelly. Mmm. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
-As a girl, I'm not looking for caviar and champagne. -No. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
I'm just looking for a cream tea and jelly and ice cream. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
-So I'm a reasonably cheap date, aren't I? -You are. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -What about the shows you've done recently? | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
You know, Cash In The Attic and Rip-Off Britain. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
Well, of course, the wonderful thing is | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
that for Rip-Off Britain, you know, if you gave that programme | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
to three 19-year-olds, it wouldn't have the same gravitas. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
So it's a perfect thing for Julia Somerville, Angela Rippon | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
and myself to do. We're doing 50 of those this year. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
So, when you ever get involved in ageism, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
we go, "Hey, we're still working. We're still busy." | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
-Yeah. -Also, I'm a Loose Woman these days as well. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
-Yeah. -You may have thought I was a loose woman for years | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
but I'm an official one now. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:14 | |
Then, of course, another series that I'm doing, which is called | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
Home Away From Home. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:18 | |
It's about people swapping homes within Britain. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
So it might be somebody from...Newcastle | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
going across to Cornwall, or something like that. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
So, lots of things. Lots of exciting things. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
And so, in a way, whatever programme you're doing at the time | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
-is the best, isn't it? -Yeah. Yeah, of course. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
And what I admire with you, you have so much energy still | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
and so much enthusiasm. How do you keep that up? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
Do you know, that's all to do with the Northern Ireland work ethic. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
We're taught to work. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:44 | |
I started to work when I was so young. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
I still expect to work. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:47 | |
I never expect anybody else to work for me. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
I still love my work. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:51 | |
And I always put that down to Northern Ireland | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
and parental upbringing really. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
My mother had a saying... If she saw me sitting in a chair reading, | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
for example, she'd say, "What are you doing?" | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
I'd go, "Just reading a book." And she'll go, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
"Years ahead of you to sit in a chair and read. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
"Go off and do something." | 0:40:07 | 0:40:08 | |
With a result that, these days, if I even have time off | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
that I'm sort of doing nothing, in my head I think, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
I'd better go and do something. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:15 | |
-How did you enjoy doing the old Strictly? -Well. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
Remember that I did it when it was very innocent, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
when you could put one foot past the other and you were on. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
It was about a year and a half, I think, after Caron died. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
And I thought I'd never find anything to laugh about | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
or smile about ever again | 0:40:29 | 0:40:30 | |
cos I was so much in the depths of despair really. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
And my family thought it'd be a very joyful thing for me to do, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
and so it was. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:38 | |
So, for that reason alone, I'll always be grateful to Strictly. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
-Yeah. -Not for the dancing but for the joy of it. -Yeah. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
How do you think your holiday in Newcastle back then | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
has helped to shape your life? | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
Well, first of all, it gave me that opportunity very early on | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
to go up in the bandstand and introduce my song | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
and perform in front of an audience, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:57 | |
so, I suppose if you want to go back that far, | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
it kind of helped me on the path of performance. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
That's certainly one thing because that was a big impression, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
-you know, to win the talent competition... -Yes. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
..at Newcastle, at the pier as well. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
That was wonderful. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:11 | |
What a glorious girl. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
And what a tremendous trip we've had. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
-Oh, my goodness. -I might have a little go at something. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
Scone is lovely. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
Remembering the precious times Gloria had here as a child | 0:41:21 | 0:41:26 | |
and reliving some of those special moments from happy holidays. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:31 | |
-After that Ulster fry, will we get through or not? -Oh, yes. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:41:34 | 0:41:35 | |
-That is what I call a true test. -Yeah. I'd only do it sideways. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
I tell you what, this is incredible. It doesn't get better. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
It doesn't. I do bring you to the best parts, don't I? | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
-You have brought me, truly, to one of the best parts. -Yeah, lovely. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
And, of course, I want you to have memories, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
not only from when you were a little girl | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
but I want you to have memories of our day together. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
I'll never forget this day, actually. It's been so lovely to relive it. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
-What have you got hidden away? -This is a little scrapbook... | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
-Ooh. -..of our time together. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
-Holiday Of My Lifetime. -Isn't that gorgeous? | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
As long as there's a photograph of you and me together | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
and Newcastle in sight, I'll be happy. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
There'll be loads of those. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
A special scrapbook of memories | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
from our terrific time | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
here in Newcastle, County Down. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
But the surprises don't stop there, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
as I've tracked down | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
some special sheet music for Gloria. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
Look at that. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
Oh, that's fantastic! | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
"The Mountains O'Mourne Simplified Piano Solo | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
"by Percy French." | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
-That is fantastic. -One and sixpence. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
THEY LAUGH Pity it wasn't one and "seven!" | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
Oh, that's lovely. Thank you so much. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
-I know exactly where I'm going to hang that. -Yeah? -Or sit it. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
-Or you can sit it. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
-Brilliant. Thank you very much. -I've noticed as well | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
-that it matches your... -Well, now. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
-Matches your outfit. -Talk about the accident. -Yeah. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
That's lovely. I'll really treasure that. Thank you. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
-You're welcome. -Do you know what, I give you ten out of ten. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
Well, I'd always give you a ten from Len, I promise you. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
And so, we say goodbye to the stunning shores of Northern Ireland | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
and the fond holiday memories of the wonderful Gloria Hunniford. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:16 |