10/08/2017 Breakfast

with Charlie Stayt and Naga Munchetty.

Police defend a decision to pay a convicted paedophile ?10,000

The payment was made as part of an investigation that led

to the prosecution of a grooming gang operating in Newcastle.

by the actions of Northumbria Police.

The force insists its priority was keeping children safe.

Good morning, it's Thursday the 10th of August.

North Korea says its plan to fire missiles towards an American

military base in the Pacific will be ready within days.

Here at the London Stadium, it was a magical moment for Makwala

Finally allowed to race in the 200m, the Botswana athlete came out

of quarantine and powered his way into tonight's showpiece.

When it comes to household bills, people with money problems

are likely to end up on the worst deals,

so says the boss of one of the UK's biggest comparison sites,

who I'll be talking to a little later.

Our very own Ore hotstepped his way to the Strictly crown

but who will be trying to take the title when the series

We'll reveal the fourth contestant in the line-up live on the programme

when they join us just after 08:30am.

Good morning. After yesterday's deluge in the south east we have the

dregs left in the far south-east corner, that will clear with a few

showers behind it, cloud and result in the north but in between a lot of

dry weather and a lot of sunshine. More in 15 minutes. Carol, thank

you. Northumbria Police has defended

paying thousands of pounds to a convicted child rapist

to gather information The force has defended

its actions after 17 mostly Asian men and one woman

were convicted of grooming Critics said it could have put

victims at greater risk. The faces of just some of those who

abused young women across Newcastle's West End. Vulnerable

girls are given drinks and drugs and passed around for sex. The gang was

caught in one of the biggest child abuse investigations the North of

England has seen. But now there are questions, outrage even, over some

of the police tactics. Was it right to pay a convicted child rapist

?10,000 to be an informant? I get entirely that for some people it

would be morally Republican, the very very thought that we would, but

if you put it in the context of we have paid money to somebody and as a

result of that we know that we have safeguarded vulnerable women and

girls and we know that there are dangerous men behind bars that would

not be behind bars for lengthy terms of imprisonment, that would not have

happened were it not for the information that we have gathered.

Still, some of those helping abused children feel it's unacceptable,

even dangerous. Perfectly reasonable to resume this individual presented

an ongoing risk and the police didn't know what he was doing when

he was out there providing information to them, he could

himself be involved in grooming and abusing those vulnerable children.

Northumbria police have stressed that the informant was not sent to

gather direct evidence of abuse. The force's police commissioner said she

was uneasy about playing the rapist but old she was satisfied everything

was done properly. Visa complex cases and difficult judgements have

to be made. Daniel Johnson, BBC News -- these are.

We're joined now by Allison Freeman, who is at Northumbria Police's

The force facing difficult questions? It does and they have

been overshadowed by the use of this informant, which you have heard has

been defended robustly by the Chief constable but the force is saying

this has been very significant in a number of ways, not least because it

sends a message that these vile crimes by evil men were simply not

tolerated. The force said the largest investigation it ever

carried out, so out, so much so it has grown the kitchen sink at it

resource wise since the first complaints were made at the end of

2013. They're saying they spoke to more

than 700 potential complainants, arrested more than 450 people and

this investigation is very much ongoing. They're also saying it has

created a cultural shift within the force and the way they deal with

these kinds of crimes. One officer was in fact sacked during the

investigation for not investigating one of the suspects correctly. One

of the girls involved in this was actually in the care of the local

authority when she was being abused, so now a safeguarding review is

going to be carried out to ensure or to find out whether these girls

could have been protected much sooner. Allison, for the moment,

thank you. We'll be speaking to

Northumbria Police chief constable Steve Ashman later

in the programme. North Korea has dismissed

President Trump's warnings that it will face fire and fury

as a load of nonsense in the latest escalation of tension

between the two leaders. Last night, Pyongyang said

it was drawing up plans to launch four ballistic missiles

towards the sea Our correspondent

Yogita Limaye has more. A show of strength in Pyongyang.

North Korean state television showed a mass of people marching in support

of the leadership in the country, even as the government made more

threats. Visa details of its plan to attack Guam. Four rockets will fly

over Japan and land in the Pacific Ocean near the island, it says. 'S

drills by US bomber aircraft like these which are stationed at once

that have angered Pyongyang -- it's. While a fierce reaction from North

Korea is expected, this time it is matched by a aggression from the US

president. After saying Pyongyang would be met by fire and fury,

Donald Trump boasted about America's nuclear arsenal, a message which

will be perceived as another threat by North Korea. It's making people

around the world nervous and many countries have urged restraint. Our

strong wish is the United States keeps calm and referring is from any

moves that would provoke another party into actions that might be

dangerous. The border is just about 50

kilometres from here, but things on the streets are not tense. This

country has dealt with threats from its neighbour for a long time now

and that's why perhaps now people here are unlikely to believe just

yet that this war war of words is likely to turn into something more.

Yogita Limaye, BBC News, Seoul. Police hunting a jogger who knocked

a pedestrian into the path of a London bus say they have

received a good response to their appeal for information,

and they are following up several CCTV footage of the incident,

on Putney Bridge, show the man appear to barge

into the 33-year-old to the quick reactions

of the bus driver. A new trial in the treatment

for Type-1 diabetes has displayed encouraging results,

according to scientists in London. The therapy aims to slow down

the advance of the disease by retraining the immune system

and so far tests show the treatment It's now hoped the therapy

could lead to a cure for Type-1 diabetes and free people from taking

daily insulin injections. A widow has spoken of her shock

and horror after a private GP who treated her late husband

admitted failings in the case. Doctor Peter Wheeler,

who was Princess Diana's doctor, has acknowledged he failed

to properly monitor his patient by not arranging the

recommended blood tests. Our health correspondent,

Jane Dreaper, has the details Stefanos Vavalidis died from liver

failure after spending the last eight months

of his life in hospital. His widow is suing the private GP

who was the family's trusted doctor over the prescribing of a drug

Mr Vavalidis took for a skin It's heartbreaking enough

to lose your partner of 45 years. But the complete shock and horror

when we found out that it had That last period of his life was

horrifying, so we'd like to prevent it from happening to other people.

Dr Peter Wheeler continues to practise at this private surgery,

which was declared safe when audited four years ago.

But he's since admitted in legal papers for this case

that there were no systems at the time for flagging up the need

for regular blood tests in cases like this, and that he failed

Had he done so, his patient could have lived up to two years longer.

The lawyer working on the family's legal claim says it is one

Private healthcare does have certain advantages over the NHS.

It's more convenient, generally, and it is more comfortable.

Dr Wheeler states in legal papers that Stefanos would still have died

from liver failure because of his diabetes and obesity.

The doctor is under investigation by the General Medical Council.

Facebook is to launch a new service that will compete with TV networks

and online platforms like YouTube and Netflix.

Social media users will soon see a Watch tab

on their feeds, which will offer a range of shows, some of which have

It will also allow people to see what their friends are watching

and start conversations with others who are interested

Can you imagine doing that, Charlie, sitting there while we're both on

Facebook, watching the same programme and commenting every

evening. I don't know but I try to keep an open mind about new

technology. We could try. It's not going to happen, though!

The Botswanan athlete, Isaac Makwala, has qualified

for the final of the World Athletics 200m after running his heat

He was unable to take part in the heats on Monday night

because the athletics authorities said he had the norovirus.

Meanwhile, Mo Farah qualified for the 5000m final.

24 hours ago his dream seemed -- tonight he could be world champion.

Isaac Makwala's remarkable evening began with a race against the clock

after the athletics authorities said he could finally run his 200 metres

heat two days after his rivals. After meeting his qualifying time he

hardly seemed to be suffering. And barely two hours later he roared

through on the inside to reach the final with Britain's athlete also

threw. Afterwards Makwala thanked the authorities for his chance but

said the crowd also inspired him. I want to thank the IAAF for giving me

another chance and the crowd is so amazing. They didn't need to

believe, the crowd being British, just want to thank this crowd, so

amazing! Also a good evening for Sir Mo Farah as he is through his 5000

metres heat in second place. He'll be joined in Saturday's final by

fellow Briton Andrew Prichard. But tonight, the focus here will be

on the men's 200 metres and four Isaac Makwala, after an

extraordinary few days, there just might be a fairytale finish. Andy

Swiss, BBC News, at the London Stadium.

It really was good to watch yesterday. All the rain on the track

and they were constantly moving it away. It might get better tonight!

Is that an official term? Squuegy? Squeegy to me means a little bit

wonky. A whole new meaning for it! This morning we are off to a fine

start, in rural areas it is quite chilly but for many parts of the UK

it will be dry with some lengthy sunny spells and where we have the

torrential rain yesterday, it's going to be much drier. You can see

this weather front in the south-east, this is the dregs of the

rain yesterday, a bit more cloud and also spots of light rain and drizzle

but that will move away through the morning. Across the far north of

Scotland, more cloud, in the Northern Isles, a bit damp with a

few showers flirting with the north and west but a lot of dry weather

and sunshine. In Northern Ireland you can see we are also looking at a

dry and sunny start to the day, as we are across the bulk of England

and Wales. A little bit of mist and fog first thing but that will lift

readily and here's our weather front, the remnants of that rain

yesterday. Through today that will continue to weaken and move away,

clearing Kent probably last. Could catch a few heavy showers around

Kent, Essex, Sussex, but they will be the exception rather than the

rule. For most, dry and fine. Temperatures, 20 or 21, what a

different day it's going to be today for the south-east compared to

yesterday and that holds true for the athletics. It should stay dry,

we should see some decent amounts of sunshine with temperatures 20 or 21.

Through the evening and overnight, again there will be a lot of dry

weather around but we've got a more active weather front coming in

across the north-west, bringing in some rain and some strengthening

winds. Move away from that and there is some cloud around and clear skies

and in towns and cities, temperatures falling to around 11 or

13. As we head into tomorrow, we start on this dry note across

central and eastern areas, you can see our weather fronts coming in,

look at the squeeze on those isobars again, telling you it's going to be

windy. The rain is going to advance from the north-west in the direction

of the south-east. It will always be heaviest in the west with height and

ahead of it the cloud will continue to build, so parts of the south-east

during daylight hours getting away with a dry day and highs once again

up to about 21. But as we go further north, still 17 to 19 so

temperatures roughly where they should be at this stage in August.

Then Friday into Saturday, we still the weather fronts cross us taking

the rain to the south-east and clearing away. Things settle down

with a ridge of high pressure across us on Saturday so again the weekend

looking pretty fine, a lot of dry weather, fair bit of sunshine, just

a few showers dotted around here and there with the breeze coming in from

the north-west and again temperatures up to 21. A very quick

look at Sunday, again a lot of dry weather with high pressure still

across us and a few showers with temperatures around 17 to 21 but

worth noting it will be chilly first thing, and surely if you're heading

out in the evenings this weekend, Charlie and Lagat.

Jacket on, jacket off. Thank you. Shall we look through the front

pages? The front of most of the papers today is our lead story,

Northumbria police's actions in the case of investigating a paedophile

gang. They were grooming young girls, and also the police's use of

an informant who was a convicted paedophile as well. We will discuss

that through the programme. And the picture you see here is supporters

of the Kenyan presidential candidate Raila Odingo protesting in Nairobi

after he said he was hacked and the election result currently under way

has been manipulated. The unsuccessful prosecution of the gang

on the Sunday mail, asking how many more lives will be torn apart. And

the summer money paid to a child rapist who was an informant to the

police, ?10,000 paid for information without enquiry. Another story is on

Korea, we have seen this escalation in words when it comes to President

Trump and Kim Jong-un as well. The trumpet -- Trump administration

warning to de-escalate. Kim Jong-un threatening his missile capability

could reach Guam, which is American territory. Sean, what have you got?

The front of the times, going more in-depth. This one here? Yes, the

hosts attacking the clampdown on Airbnb. If you own a flat in

Majorca, one of those islands, you need a licence to be able to put the

flat on Airbnb, which makes it more complicated. Those that own it are

kicking off because they say it will limit the amount of business they

can do. It is a higher standard required, that kind of stuff. Airbnb

said it has brought loads of tourism to these islands. They have helped

bring people in, more affordable, more competition, so that is

changing things are little bit. If you wanted to go on Airbnb and get

some of those things, that will change over the next 12 months.

Quite interesting. One in the FT which has been going along the last

couple of days, Disney, at the moment, on Netflix, something like

that platform, you can get Disney films, they have said no, we are

keeping it to ourselves and we will have Alan platform because content

is king at the moment. If you have content at the moment, it is worth a

lot. Charlie and I are going to start sharing thoughts as we watch

TV together in our separate places. The goggle box kind of thing. Group

watch session. What should we watch next? Sean is taking it seriously. I

am just trying to work out if he realises that is something that

won't ever happen. Come on, Charlie. We will get you a smartphone

one-day! Thank you. Tensions have been increasing

between North Korea and the US and Kim Jong-un has dismissed President

Trump's warning as a load of nonsense. Pyongyang said it was

drawing up plans to launch ballistic missiles towards Guam. Let's speak

to our correspondent Yagita Limai. Is it a war of words, or is it some

physical action that might be taken soon rather than later? Let me start

with the reaction in South Korea. Just a short while ago we heard a

military spokesman who said they are sending out a stern warning to North

Korea that if there is any provocation there will be a strong

response from the joint forces of the US and South Korea. At the same

time the spokesman said that across the border in North Korea there is

no indication of anything unusual. They say there doesn't seem anything

out of the ordinary, or any provocation. Analysts say this kind

of sharp rhetoric from Pyongyang is not new. During August the US and

South Korean forces conducted joint military drills. During August

experts studying North Korea for a long time say that you hear these

strong words coming out of Pyongyang. Now you also have a US

president making aggressive remarks. That is making things more tense. If

you go out on the streets of Seoul things are normal. People are going

about their lives as usual. I spoke to people here to ask what they

think about the situation. A couple of people said they are worried and

that this is a scary, intense situation. Others said they had

heard these threats from Pyongyang for so long now that they don't

actually think anything is going to play out on the ground. One man said

he thinks North Korea is bluffing. Yogita, I know it is difficult to

get insight into what is happening in North Korea as well. The IDE is,

as we've been told, Kim Jong-un wants to make sure that he makes it

clear that the US wants to exterminate the country -- idea is.

That is exactly right. Their defence of the missile programme, the

nuclear programme has been that it is our defence against invasion.

They have said that time and again. What has changed in the last month

is they say they have the capability of hitting the US, the mainland of

the US and that is perhaps why America is sitting up, taking notice

of it. That is why we have heard such strong reactions coming from

the US. It is in no one's interest for there to be all-out war on the

Korean Peninsular. North Korea doesn't want it - having this

nuclear programme is a defensive measure. South Korea doesn't want

it. China, an important player, does not want instability right next to

it. Obviously this is not something that the US wants as well. At the

moment, when I speak with analysts about what they think will happen in

the next few days or weeks or months, they say they believe this

is just a war of words at the moment and they don't think they are going

to see anything happen. Let's hope it stays that way. Thank you,

Yogita. Now, in an exclusive

interview with BBC Breakfast, Michael Palin has told us more needs

to be done to support New research published today shows

that prisoners who receive visits from a family member

during their time inside This is Cairo. How are you? Very

nice to meet you. Come in. Michael Pailin is a household name and Kyra

is a 12-year-old daughter of a convicted criminal. They are here to

create an animation for the support group Pact. The film you are about

to watch tells the story of Kyra. The film tells the story of her

stepdad's conviction and Howard first she didn't know her stepdad

was in jail, how much it helped to visit and how much it hurt when he

was eventually moved away. There are some bits I want to talk to him

about but I can't because I can't really choose when I want to call

him, when I want to meet up with him, when I want to go on a visit,

so it is really hard. Do you miss him? Yeah, a lot. Today in a report

commissioned by the Ministry of Justice highlights the important

link between prisoners and families. Inmates who receive family visits

are, the report says, 39% less likely to reoffend. I love the

question on their little noses. Reoffending, rehabilitation, issues

Michael Palin has felt strongly about. From what one reads in the

press, prison numbers are higher than ever, people just keep the lid

on rather than being able to do any decent work in helping these people

improve their lives afterwards. There is no point sending someone

out into the world if they are going to just be the same again, there has

to be some change either inside or with the family. The reality of the

Prison Service right now is this - funding and staffing levels down,

serious assaults and drug use up, a prison population which has almost

doubled in 25 years, reoffending rates which stubbornly hover around

the 25% mark. Children of prisoners have three times the incidence of

mental health issues, much likelier to suffer poverty, homelessness,

educational problems, one study said six out of ten boys with a father in

prison are likely to go to prison themselves in later life. The

Ministry of Justice told us this... Kyra, still a long way from her

stepfather, feels punished for his crime. Kind of upset, it gets me

wondering sometimes. How he is doing? Yeah, if he is fine and if he

is OK. Do you know when you are going to see him? No. Access to

parents in prison is clearly something that is important to

children like Kyra. The report says it is important to prisoners too.

When I saw my step that I was so happy. It is not about being soft on

prisoners. It is about a calculated social and economic benefit. Because

if report recommendations bring down reoffending rates, they also help

bring down the ?15 billion annual cost of the reoffending. How is

that, all at? APPLAUSE. LAUGHTER.

, Lovely girl. Still to come: It's TV's biggest

show, but Game of Thrones is the latest victim of hackers,

who are demanding millions Sean will be looking at whether TV

is a new target for cybercriminals. I'm back with the latest

from the BBC London newsroom Now, though, it's back

to Naga and Charlie. with Naga Munchetty and Charlie

Stayt. Headlines in a moment,

but coming up this morning: Was it right that Northumbria police

paid a convicted sex offender thousands of pounds for evidence

in a grooming case? It's not often we get speak

to a Former US Vice President, us his view of the Trump White

House. And we'll reveal the third celebrity

who'll be doing sequins and spray tans in this

year's Strictly. But first, this

morning's top stories: Northumbria Police has defended

paying thousands of pounds to a convicted child rapist

to gather information The force has stood by its actions

after 17 mostly Asian men and one woman were convicted

of grooming vulnerable Critics said it could have put

victims at greater risk. The faces of just some of those

who abused young women Vulnerable girls are given drinks

and drugs and passed around for sex. The gang was caught in one

of the biggest child abuse investigations the North

of England has seen. But now there are questions,

outrage even, over some Was it right to pay a convicted

child rapist ?10,000 I get entirely that for some people

it would be morally repugnant, the very very thought that we would,

but if you put it in the context of we have paid money to somebody

and as a result of that we know that we have safeguarded

vulnerable women and girls, and we know that there are dangerous

men behind bars that would not be behind bars

for lengthy terms of imprisonment, that would not have happened were it

not for the information Still, some of those helping

abused children feel it's Perfectly reasonable to assume this

individual presented an ongoing risk and the police didn't know

what he was doing when he was out He could himself have been involved

in grooming and abusing those Northumbria police have stressed

that the informant was not sent The force's police commissioner said

she was uneasy about playing the rapist but ultimately

she was satisfied everything These are complex cases

and difficult judgements have North Korea has dismissed

President Trump's warnings that it will face the fire and fury

of the United States as "a load will face the fire and fury

of the United States as a load of nonsense, in the latest

escalation of tension North Korea has said

it was drawing up plans to launch four ballistic missiles

towards the sea off the coast of Guam,

a US territory and a major strategic Police hunting a jogger who knocked

a pedestrian into the path of a London bus say they have

received a good response to their appeal for information

and they are following up several CCTV footage of the incident

on Putney Bridge appears to show the man barging

into the 33-year-old She escaped serious injury thanks

to the quick reactions is Everytime I see that I am still

shocked someone would do something like that!

A new trial in the treatment for Type-1 diabetes has displayed

encouraging results, according to scientists in London.

The therapy aims to slow down the advance of the disease

by retraining the immune system and so far,

tests show the treatment is safe.

It's now hoped the therapy could lead to a cure for Type-1

diabetes and free people from taking daily insulin injections.

Facebook is to launch a new service that will compete with TV networks

and online platforms like YouTube and Netflix.

Social media users will soon see a Watch tab

on their feeds, which will offer a range of shows, some of which have

It will also allow people to see what their friends are watching

and start conversations with others who are interested

There we go, that's what's going to happen! We will watch the same TV

programmes and talking to each other online. Quite a few hurdles of that

happening. We will overcome them, Charlie!

It was marvellous yesterday evening watching Isaac Makwala run alone to

qualify for the next heat in the 200 metres. Jess, you are on the track,

you are alone but at least you don't have to run 20.2 seconds at least? I

think I might do! It would warm me up! Good morning, we've been talking

a lot recently about the Botswana athlete Isaac Makwala, he's gone

from thinking his World Championships were over to being

given a remarkable second chance. It was here in lane seven at the start

of the 200 meet a line that he was given the opportunity to run a solo

time trial. Incredible, just Makwala against the clock, no rivals around

him at all to spur him on. To give you some background on this, he was

one of a number of athletes affected by a stomach bug and removed on

medical grounds on competing. He missed the chance

to run in the 400 metres but after his quarantine period

ended yesterday afternoon. He was given the chance

to run a solo time trial He had to achieve the qualifying

time and roared on by the crowd, he did and took his place

in the semi-finals. Remarkably, Makwala came

second in his semi-final, and just behind him in third was

Britain's Nathaneel Mitchell-Blake, The 400 metre champion

Wayde Van Niekerk also For Makwala though it was all

about the chance to race again and show the world

what he could do. I wish to thank the IAAF for giving

me another chance. They didn't need to believe,

the crowd being British, I just want to thank

this crowd, so amazing! Mo Farah will go for double gold

in these Championships again after he qualified for the final

of the 5,000 metres. He'll also be joined by fellow

Briton Andy Butchart after he qualified as a fastest

loser from the second heat. Farah is retiring from track racing

at the end of these championships and says he wants

to go out on a high. You can't dream of something unless

you do something about it. I've been given a chance in life and I work

hard for it and I achieve what I've achieved through hard work and keep

grafting. To all the kids out there Common youngsters, you can be like

me and we've got to start thinking about how we can get the

next-generation to leave a legacy behind.

The bad weather here in London yesterday caused problems

for athletes both on the track and field.

Particularly hard for the long jumpers and in the women's

qualifying, Lorraine Ugen was the only one of three British

athletes to make it into tomorrow's final.

Britain's Nick Miller is into Friday's final

He made the qualifying distance with his very first throw.

He'll more than likely need to better his British record

There was late drama in the women's 400m.

The Bahamas runner Shaunae Miller-Uibo looked to have the race

won but pulled up in the last 20 metres

and finished fourth, missing out on a medal.

The American Phyllis Francis won gold, her compatriot Allyson Felix

Away from the athletics, England made an impressive start

to their defence of the Women's Rugby World Cup,

a nail-biting opener against Australia.

They were leading by nine points after Sophie Spence's try

but the Australians fought back and Ireland went through 19-17.

Andy Murray looks set to lose his world number one ranking

after withdrawing from the Cincinnati Masters with the hip

injury that hampered his Wimbledon campaign.

which starts at the end of this month.

And Rory McIlory says he has nothing to prove ahead of the USPGA

Championship, which starts this evening in North Carolina.

He's among a top-class field trying to stop the American Jordan Spieth

becoming the youngest player to complete a career grand slam.

There's coverage across the BBC, including live coverage via the red

button, from 6pm and on BBC Two from 11:15pm

No morning session here today, things much drier after the weather

yesterday, more favourable conditions when they get under way

in the evening session hopefully. Yesterday, it emerged that 17

mostly-Asian men and one woman have been

convicted of targeting vulnerable girls in Newcastle as part

of a child sex gang. As part of the operation

to catch the gang, Northumbria Police paid a convicted

child rapist thousands of pounds to act as an informant,

a decision the police The NSPCC has come out clearly

saying you don't think this was the right move, to pay a convicted

rapist, paedophile, to be part of the operation? Absolutely not. We

want to acknowledge the bravery and courage of the young women coming

forward and speaking in court and helping security, this is a start

for their recovery journey but we don't support the police. We think

it was a misguided action, putting a person who had a track record

against abusing girls into this situation with other vulnerable

girls and perpetrators. And then paying for the privilege of doing

that. The police services involved have been clear about what they saw

as the difficult moral and ethical situation, they understand some

people will criticise, but if you're in the middle of an investigation

and you believe the only way you can progress that investigation to get

what you want is to do this, to pay this man. What do you do in that

situation? They presented this very clearly, they say this is what

needed to be done to get the result. We would argue it shouldn't have

been a person who has a record against children, this man was a

child rapist, had gone to court and being prosecuted for that. Putting

that man into a situation with other vulnerable girls and men they

similar ilk, we don't know what the outcome could have been for those

young people. We don't know really what happened in this situation and

why can they have used a different informant, one that didn't have a

track record. Is the issue about how they used him? We understand he was

put back... He was taking as we understand, we will find out more

later, he was taking vulnerable girls back into some of those

situations. Is it that or that he was used at all? At all, we

fundamentally disagree with the use of someone who is convicted against

sexual offences against children in this situation. Without being blase

at all, he was convicted, he did his time, he was done and then willing

to how the police in this situation. He was proven to be dishonest

throughout this case and even the judge throughout some of his

comments against the police, calling him very dishonest. Yet the evidence

was used in the case that he provided, that was used. This case

is about gathering evidence from those people who have been affected

by this abuse at the hands of those perpetrators. It's really important

those women are listened to, believed and supported. There have

been criticisms, I'd be interested to hear your view on this, about the

length of time it took to gather evidence, the length of time these

vulnerable girls were in this situation. Around 21 months for that

sequence. Do you understand what the police needed to do in order to

gather enough evidence to conflict 18 people? We absolutely recognise

how difficult it is for police forces across the country trying to

tackle the issue of child sexual exploitation. It's an absolute

nightmare and we praise the police for their tactics in bringing these

people to justice but it's never right to use a known sex offender to

go into a situation like this with vulnerable young women. Is the

payment the issue? The principle of policing would be clearly in any

investigation you need someone who has a link to the crime to get the

information. Yeah. Is it the payment or the use of someone that's been

previously convicted? It's the use. If you can't approach those or try

to get those people to give you information, who do you talk to? You

have to talk to someone involved unnecessarily, given the

circumstances here, child sex abuse... These are all people you

don't want to do business with. Absolutely, but this is not a bank

job or a drug scam, this is a robe of vulnerable young people under 16

who have been plied with alcohol and drugs and forced to have sex with

people against their will -- group of. Putting them with a known sex

offender and you can't manage the risk. We had no idea what would

happen and what the man would do. This is a different argument, you're

saying they couldn't guarantee the person they were using for

information wasn't himself perpetrating war crimes? Wasn't a

risk to those young people, yes -- more crimes. Who is to save the

victims, we are prepared to use a child rapist, by paying them, to

gather the evidence -- to say. Thank you very much. We will speak

with the chief constable from Northumbria police at 7:10am a

little later this morning. You're watching

Breakfast from BBC News. The main stories this morning:

Northumbria Police has defended paying thousands of pounds

to a convicted child rapist to gather information

in an abuse investigation. North Korea has accused Donald Trump

of being "bereft of reason" as it gave more details about its threat

to an American military base Time to talk to Carol to take a look

at the weather - there was a divide in terms of weather yesterday

because we were watching their championships in London and they

were squeegying the track and then it was glorious elsewhere. That's

right, Naga. Surrey had almost two inches of rain in 24 hours and we

have the dregs of that in the south-east, which will clear, and

for most of us we have a mainly dry day with lengthy sunny spells, and

it will feel pleasant in the sunshine with highs of around 20-

21. This is what is left of the rain, affecting Essex, Kent, Sussex

as well, with patchy rain that will clear. At the other end of the

country another weather front here is producing more clout, rain and

drizzle across the Northern Isles, also affecting northern Scotland.

The rest of Scotland has a fine start to the day. Chilly in rural

areas. Temperatures around Braemar currently four. Northern Ireland,

England, into the south-west, a lot of dry weather and a lot of

sunshine. There is the rain. This rain will slowly move away, clearing

Essex and Kent last. And in doing so it will leave a little cloud, one or

two showers, but the sun will come out and for most of the UK away from

the north-west we are looking at a dry and sunny day. Temperatures

around where they should be for this time in August with a range of 14 in

the north and 21 in the south. So, Naga mentioned the athletics

yesterday. Today it should be dry with a fair bit of sunshine around

too. So as we head through the evening and overnight period we hang

onto a lot of dry weather, some clear spells as well, and is active

weather front comes in across northern and western Scotland and

Northern Ireland. The wind strengthening about it as it moves

southwards. Some clear skies, chilly in rural areas but generally in

towns and cities we stay in double figures. Tomorrow you can see the

weather fronts and squeezed isobars, the combination tells us we have

rain and windy conditions coming in from the north-west, spreading south

eastwards. The heaviest rain with height in the west. As the front

moves south it will weaken and fragment and parts of the south-east

will stay dry until early evening, hanging on to the brightness the

longest, the sunshine across East Anglia and Kent. And then as we head

into the weekend, well, first of all, the fronts come south, we will

see rain overnight, then this high pressure builds in, settling things

down nicely, not just on Saturday but also into Sunday. So, on

Saturday, a chilly start, sunshine, one or two showers in the north of

the country and we have highs of 13- 21. As we head into Sunday it is a

chilly start with a fair bit of sunshine around, mostly dry, just

one or two showers. Temperatures 14- 21. And before I go it is worth

mentioning that although we have dry and sunny weather during the day

with respectable temperatures, if you are heading out in the evening

it will feel quite nippy, Charlie and Naga. Thanks very much, Carol. I

always think you are very savvy. When was the last time you switched

energy or insurance provider to make sure you got the best rates? Two

years ago. Gosh! I should do it every year. Most people wouldn't be

able to save two years ago. I think I was about one and a half years

ago. Sean is always telling us we should be doing this. There are have

been mixed messages with more people switching, as we have heard, then

the energy Secretary Greg Clark said he has never switched, it is too

much hassle, the industry needs to change, so what is better for

people? Despite the abundance of -

some might say annoying - adverts trying to get us to switch,

it seems a quarter of us still have never shopped around when it comes

to those household bills, like car and home insurance

or our gas and electricity. And those with financial problems

are the ones likely to end up This research was commissioned

by the comparison site Gocompare, and its chief executive

is Matthew Crummack, Good morning. Those with the most

financial distress often end up with the poor deal. Lots of us use these

deals, why can you not help those people? The report looks at why

consumers are essentially not making the most of the information

available to them, and reducing their household bills. We looked at

the amount of money on the table that could be saved, and why they

were not taking that opportunity. Some of the behaviours behind that

as well. We teamed up with a professor who looked into

behaviours. What he found was that people who could benefit most from

switching and reducing energy bills sometimes under financial stress

were not doing that. Why is that? What could you do more of? Less

information is better. People in the financial stress don't want to look

at bills. Yeah, yeah. The professor ran a test and gave people two

bills, one person under financial stress and one not under financial

stress. The person under financial stress spent half the time looking

at the bill then the person that wasn't because they don't want to

look at that. So simplifying the information. Interesting - when you

say simplify down, I did a comparison this morning, you know,

you're used to filling in the forms. I got to the end and it wanted

details that I didn't think I needed to give, my mobile phone number, and

it wouldn't give me a quote without giving it. People are worried they

will be bombarded with e-mails. Can't you simplify your website?

We're constantly looking to simplify that process. At the very heart of

it is where someone has already taken out a policy, gas and

electricity provider, car and home insurance, the three main ones, they

have done that and then they get a renewal notice, and we have set,

let's simplify the process. What am I paying today, and went away have

to make a decision? It is about transparency and comparison sites

were not be ten years ago. Now they are huge. There are lots around.

People want to know more about how you make. How much would you make on

a switch, on average, roughly? You would get a fee from the insurance

pushing people towards - what would you get from them? Let me tell you

how it works. When a person comes onto the website and does a search,

then they go through and they might choose to switch and they take out a

contract or switch provider, at the end of the process, as a rule,

people save money. Then we get paid from that. We are a business. We get

paid from that. We don't disclose the number on that. What I can tell

you is we don't have advertising on the website. We don't make money

from advertising. We don't sponsor people through the sites. We get

paid for that. When I search this morning, it was all about cheap,

cheap, cheap, that was the filter, but is there an argument to say your

industry has forced people to look at the cheapest price, when the

policy details are crucial for people? We couldn't agree more. You

say that, but everything is done according to price. Naturally,

people want price of first and foremost. They say they want

products, but they want price of. If they claim, there could be problems.

We are keen to make sure people have the content. The team who started

the business in Newport started the business because they wanted the

detail on the policy provisions, what you get for your money. We

spent a lot of time internally looking at how to present the

information simply. And that is the challenge, how to simplify this, as

we said, to make it clear for people at a good price. The balance between

cheap and detail. Thank you. Can I have a quick question, sorry,

Matthew, can you be punished for switching to much, as in, you are

not seen as a loyal customer? I don't think you can be punished for

that in the products we are talking about. I think there is a perception

that the longer you stay with someone the better it is. Certainly

the maths we have done suggest the longer you stay with someone the

more you pay. OK, good advice. Matthew, Sean, thank you very much.

As the World Athletics Championships carries on in London,

there's another huge sporting event happening in Sheffield this week,

Around 2,600 competitors are taking part in the games,

featuring athletes with a variety of learning disabilities.

Hayley Hassall has been to watch some of the action.

Yeah! This year's Special Olympics has had more interest than ever

before and more athletes have taken to the track. Kyra is the current

women's world champion in cycling for women with intellectual

abilities and she has been cycling for three years in the Special

Olympics. Not long until the race. How are you feeling? Nervous, I am

not going to lie. There are a some great writers here, so the

competition is going to be high. Do you think you're learning ability

fracture your training, does it make it difficult? Yes, I struggle with

direction and time as well -- riders. This Olympics gave me a

place where I can be myself with everybody else. It is just amazing.

Kiera's that has taken her around the world to compete, but lack of

financial support from the games makes things difficult. In terms of

funding, it is an ongoing battle all the time, it is doing whatever from

raising what you can do to help with the cost of getting to the events

and things. So unlike the Olympics you have to find yourself?

Completely. That is a lot of pressure. Yes. Is it worth it? At

the end of the date, it you wouldn't change a thing with the success and

the experiences that she has had, it you know. And, as I say, it develops

us as people. There is no age limit in the Special Olympics and Ian has

been training with the Special Olympics for the last 17 years. He

has autism, which he used to find that stopped him joining in things

like sports, but now it is the complete opposite. I used to be

nerve racked in the beginning, I would shy away and all of that. Then

suddenly I got hooked on it for life. We're not only competing, we

are also doing other things behind the scenes as well to try to make it

more accessible to the other athletes with intellectual

disabilities. But for athletes like Kiera, has all of that hard work

paid off? I have just found out the results and I can tell you that you

came second. Yay! Well done, how do you feel? Really good. Silver medal,

well done! Thank you. Plenty more on our website

at the usual address. Hello, this is Breakfast,

with Naga Munchetty and Charlie Police defend a decision to pay

a convicted paedophile ?10,000 The payment was made as part

of an investigation that led to the prosecution of a grooming

gang operating in Newcastle. The NSPCC says it's appalled

by the actions of Northumbria The force insists its priority

was keeping children safe. We'll speak to their Chief Constable

in the next few minutes. Also this morning, North Korea

says its plan to fire missiles towards an American military base

in the Pacific will be Here at the London Stadium

it was a magical moment for Makwala. Finally allowed to race in the 200m,

he came out of quarantine and stormed his way

into tonight's showpiece. As the makers of Game of Thrones

face a ransom demand from hackers. I'll be asking why TV

is a target for cybercriminals. Naga was among the contestants

tangoing their way around the Strictly dancefloor

last time around. But who will be trying to take

the title when the series Good morning. A chilly start in some

rural areas. For most of us it will be dry and sunny. There are some

showers to get rid first of all in the south-east and a bit more cloud

in the far north of Scotland, with spots of rain. I will have all the

details in 15 minutes. Northumbria Police has defended

paying thousands of pounds to a convicted child rapist

to gather information The force has stood by its actions

after 17 mostly Asian men and one woman were convicted

of grooming vulnerable Critics said it could have put

victims at greater risk. The faces of just some of those

who abused young women Vulnerable girls were given drinks

and drugs and passed around for sex. The gang was caught in one

of the biggest child abuse investigations the North

of England has seen. But now there are questions,

outrage even, over some Was it right to pay a convicted

child rapist ?10,000 I get entirely that for some people

it would be morally repugnant, the very very thought that we would,

but if you put it in the context of we have paid money to somebody

and as a result of that we know that we have safeguarded

vulnerable women and girls, and we know that there are dangerous

men behind bars that would not be behind bars for lengthy

terms of imprisonment, that would not have happened were it

not for the information Still, some of those helping

abused children feel it's We do not support the police in

doing this. We think it was a misguided action, putting someone

with a track record of abusing girls into this situation with other

vulnerable girls and perpetrators, and paying them for the privilege of

doing that. Northumbria police have stressed

that the informant was not sent The force's police commissioner said

she was uneasy about playing the rapist but ultimately

she was satisfied everything These are complex cases

and difficult judgements We will be speaking to the chief

constable of Northumbria police in just a few minutes.

We'll be speaking to Northumbria Police chief constable

North Korea has dismissed President Trump's warnings that it

will face "fire and fury" as "a load of nonsense" in the latest

escalation of tension between the two leaders.

Last night, Pyongyang said it was drawing up plans to launch

four ballistic missiles towards the sea off

Our correspondent Yogita Limaye has more.

North Korean state television showed a mass of people marching in support

of the leadership in the country, even as the government

These are details of its plan to attack Guam.

Four rockets will fly over Japan and land in the Pacific Ocean

It's drills by US bomber aircraft like these,

which are stationed at Guam, that have angered Pyongyang.

While a fierce reaction from North Korea is expected,

this time it is matched by aggression from the US president.

After saying Pyongyang would be met by fire and fury,

Donald Trump boasted about America's nuclear arsenal,

a message which will be perceived as another threat by North Korea.

It's making people around the world nervous, and many countries

Our strong wish is that the United States keeps calm

and refrains from any moves that would provoke another party

into actions that might be dangerous.

The border is just about 50 kilometres from here,

but things on the streets are not tense.

This country has dealt with threats from its neighbour for a long time

now, and that's why perhaps now people here are unlikely to believe

just yet that this war of words will turn into something more.

Miscarriages and birth defects could be significantly reduced

if women take vitamin B3 supplements.

Scientists at a Research Institute in Sydney believe the vitamin can

prevent embryos and babies' organs developing incorrectly

The discovery has been called the most significant breakthrough

in pregnancy research, and will transform the way

Police hunting a jogger who knocked a pedestrian into the path

of a London bus say they have received a good response

to their appeal for information, and they are following up several

CCTV footage of the incident on Putney Bridge appears to show

the man barging into the 33-year-old woman without warning.

She escaped serious injury thanks to the quick reactions

Facebook is to launch a new service that will compete with TV networks

and online platforms like YouTube and Netflix.

Social media users will soon see a "Watch" tab on their feeds,

which will offer a range of shows, some of which have been funded

It will also allow people to see what their friends are watching

and start conversations with others who are interested in the same

The Botswanan athlete, Isaac Makwala has qualified

for the final of the World Athletics 200m, after running his heat alone

He was unable to take part in the heats on Monday night,

because the athletics authorities said he had the norovirus.

Meanwhile, Mo Farah qualified for the 5000m final.

24 hours ago his dream seemed dashed, tonight

Isaac Makwala's remarkable evening began with a race against the clock

after the athletics authorities said he could finally run his 200 metres

After meeting his qualifying time he hardly seemed to be suffering.

And barely two hours later he roared through on the inside to reach

the final with Britain's Nethaneel Mitchell-Blake also through.

Afterwards Makwala thanked the authorities for his chance

but said the crowd also inspired him.

I want to thank the IAAF for giving me another chance

They didn't need to believe, the crowd being British,

I just want to thank this crowd, so amazing!

Also a good evening for Sir Mo Farah as he is through his 5000 metres

He'll be joined in Saturday's final by fellow Briton Andrew Prichard.

But tonight, the focus here will be on the men's 200 metres and four

Isaac Makwala, after an extraordinary few days,

there just might be a fairytale finish.

Andy Swiss, BBC News, at the London Stadium.

It is 7:10am. Returning to our main story.

Northumbria Police has been forced to defend its decision to pay

thousands of pounds to a convicted sex offender as part

of an investigation into a child grooming gang.

We can speak live to Northumbria Police chief constable

Good morning. Thank you for your time. I wonder if first, I could

read out the quote from the NSPCC, which encapsulates what many people

are thinking at this stage. This is their statement. "We Are appalled to

learn that police paid a child rapist and planted him in the midst

of vulnerable young children. It Jaegar 's belief that it would ever

have been considered, let alone approved". -- beggars belief. Can

you respond to that? Yes, it does beggar belief, because it didn't

happen. It is disappointing that the NSPCC has adopted the stance that

they have. This is an well-informed position they have taken. The fact

of the matter is that we absolutely did not plant the informant, who is

referred to as XY in this case, in the midst of vulnerable women and

girls. That didn't happen. He was never tasked to go to these parties,

all sessions, as they are being referred to in the trial. So not

only did we not asked him to do it, there is no evidence that he did, it

is if you look in detail at the judge's assessment and the legal

finding in this case, there is no evidence whatsoever he was involved

or engaged in offending against these victims or indeed anybody

else. So it does beggar belief, it didn't happen. Just by way of

clarification, is it true that the handlers of your informer asked him

to take vulnerable children to parties? Is that true? I cannot go

into detail about what we did didn't do with deployments. What I can say

is that we absolutely did not tasked him to go to parties with vulnerable

women and girls. -- task him. We are very clear and very specific about

that. Has been a drawing away from the central point here. The use of

the informant was principally about finding out who might be involved,

the cars they were driving, the addresses they were living out, who

might be using drugs and supplying dogs. It was very much the case that

this was the starting point for the investigation. It is never resulted

in XY being exposed to any offending whatsoever. Had it done so, they

would have been only one of two outcomes. He either would have in

giving evidence against the people who were convicted, which he didn't,

or he would have in the dock alongside them, which she wasn't. So

I need to be very clear about that point. It was the gathering of

information we could not get from any other source. Things like who

they were, where they lived, the cars they were driving. It was

nothing to do with him being placed close to vulnerable women and girls.

I really must stress that one. Many of those who may comment on the way

you conduct of the investigation have said that what they are

confused by this that the police's first responsibility, surely, in

these situations, is to safeguard children. What appears to have

happened is that you have prioritised gathering evidence, over

quite a long period of time, while knowing that children were being

abused. No. Charlie, that is really not true. Our primary role is to

protect, it is to preserve life and protect people from harm. Many years

ago, a more esteemed police officer they myself that the primary object

of a efficient police force is the prevention of crime. That is what we

were looking to do. This was about the protection of vulnerable people

from harm. I know this is difficult. It is a challenging moral dilemma

that we were faced with, that I was faced with, that the officers

involved had to content with and wrestle with and reassess every step

of the way. But I have to be content that what we ended up doing here was

putting dangerous men behind bars in protecting vulnerable women and

girls, and that we simply wouldn't have been able to do that if we

didn't have that jumping off point that we got from an informant who

was able to tell us who was involved, where they were likely to

be, the cars they were driving and the people they were associating

with. It is a fact that in other investigations of a similar nature,

and I understand that every investigation is different, but in

Rochdale, Oxford and Cambridge, they were able to secure prosecutions of

sex gangs abusing young children without the need to pay money to

convicted child rapists. How is it that you were not able to do that

and felt the necessity to turn to what a lot of people think is an

unacceptable practice? We were clear from the outset that what we were

not faced with here and Northumbria was a long list of people who were

claiming that public services, that the police and social services, had

let them down. That they had been making these allegations for many

years. This was not about allegations of historic abuse that

had gone unaddressed and had not indulged with professionally. This

was about pro at Ridley searching and trying to find victims of child

sex exportation. -- proactively searching. We have thrown every

single tactic and resource we have at this, and there is not a single

tactic in the book, overt or covert, that we have not employed, but we

did not have at our disposal in doing this. You know, it is not

about our satisfaction. We have to be content with what we have done,

but I absolutely understand that this is challenging for some people.

I am left with the question that a throwback, not to try to be clever

or repaid the issue, what would you do in those circumstances? -- eBay

it the issue. -- evade the issue. If by and listing a child sex offender,

paying a child sex offender, we can protect people we would not

otherwise be able to, you have to ask if you would take that risk, and

it is under carefully managed circumstances which does not expose

him to vulnerable women and girls. If you can gather that information

that ultimately might be too prosecutions, morally, is it the

right thing to do? I believe it is. You are under great scrutiny. Help

us with the process. Was part of accepting the difficult decision,

and some people have said unacceptable decision, to use this

man in this way, was it the scale of the abuse that made you choose a

path that you may not have otherwise done. I am trying to work out... You

said it was a difficult decision. Were there some people in your group

saying we cannot do this and it is too far? Did others argue a

different way? No, I think it is a professional process for the

management and the handling of any individual informant. In this case,

I will point to some milestones. In the outset, it would have been

impossible to investigate reactively and move on. We did not have to

throw resources at this that we did. We thought there was something out

there and we went to look for it and find it because it was the right

thing to do. If you move the clock forward to the next milestone,

coming forward to make the allegation, the allegations

dismissed by the judge, there was an opportunity for us then to dismiss

the cases and not reveal the identity of XY. But girls needed to

see justice and they trusted us and we respect of that and we have done

that. Why did we do that? It was the right thing to do. There are many

moral dilemmas, not just for me as a constable, but for the staff who are

committed to the efforts for those victims. And why is that? It is the

right thing to do. Some people disagree. I understand. We have to

think about it as well. But with all of my experience, we could not do

this without what we did. This was the right thing to do. I appreciate

it. But one more thought. Many people this morning are thinking

about it. One of the things we cannot know, and I am not sure you

can know, is good you have prosecuted these people without

using a convicted paedophile? -- could. You don't know it, do you? Or

are you certain it could not have happened any other way? I am

probably as certain as I can be to be one of the criteria for the

registering and handling of an individual informant would be we

cannot get that information from elsewhere. The time we registered

him, we had no idea about the sort of information he could give us and

whether we could get it from elsewhere. You have to have a

suspicion and it is a jump off point for an investigation and it leads

you to evidence. It could have taken a whole lot longer to get the

information. That would have exposed many more women and girls to

unacceptable risk. That does not sit comfortable you with me either.

Thank you so much for your time this morning. Thank you. We will talk to

Carol and find out what is happening with the weather today. I hope it is

getting better than the last week. Good morning. Good morning. It won't

be as wet as yesterday. Many parts of the UK today, sunny spells and

mainly dry. I say mainly dry because there are some flies in the ointment

in the shape of this weather front to the south. Some cloud and rain.

Patchy rain and drizzle. At the other end of the country in northern

Scotland, another weather front producing cloud and also some rain

and drizzle, especially in the Northern Isles. The rest of

Scotland, a dry start in rural areas. A bright start. In the

morning sunshine, temperatures picking up rapidly. Wales in

south-west England, the Midlands, down towards Hampshire, the Isle of

Wight, a beautiful sight to the day. In the south-east, a bit more cloud.

Splashes of rain, though light. That will clear away. Behind that, one or

two showers in the afternoon. Some of us will mist them all together

and have a largely dry day away from the finals of Scotland. The

temperatures are aware they should be. Roughly 21. The athletics today

should be dry. As we go through the evening, hanging on to the sunshine.

Through the course of the night, we have a weather front coming in

across Scotland and Northern Ireland. England and Wales,

remaining largely dry. Some clear spells. Variable cloud. Temperatures

dipping in towns and cities to 11- 13 degrees. Weather fronts coming

our way tomorrow morning. Cloud and rain. This is the first one

overnight. That will all be slipping steadily south-east. The heaviest

rain will be on the west with height. As it goes south-east, the

cloud will be old. The far south-east of England, hanging onto

the bright skies and sunshine for the longest. Getting here during the

evening. Temperatures tomorrow, 13- 21. And then as we move through the

course of Friday evening and overnight, there are the fronts.

Then a ridge of high pressure building in for the weekend. Not

just Saturday, also Sunday. That settle things down quite nicely.

Saturday, a chilly start to the day, especially in rural areas. A lot of

dry weather. A few showers in the north and the highlands in

particular. Again, not everyone will see them. Similar on Sunday. A lot

of dry weather. Chilly in the evening. In the daytime, 21 is not

too bad at all, Naga and Charlie. About time. I must confess I am sick

of the rain and I prefer the sunshine as well. You are a ray of

sunshine but even you are not enough when it is raining this much. Thank

you. Scientists in Australia say simply

taking a common vitamin could significantly reduce

the number of miscarriages The research, which has been

described as ground-breaking, has found that vitamin B3 can cure

molecular deficiencies We can speak now to the leader

scientist on this Professor Sally Dunwoodie who joins us on Skype

from Sydney this morning. Thank you very much for your time

this morning. Can you explain... Obviously, time is limited. But can

you explain how you got to the conclusion that B3 is the key to all

this. We were studying families who had multiple miscarriages and babies

with multiple birth defects, heart defects, kidney defects, a cleft

palate, club fought. We were sequencing Baird genes. We found

mutations. -- foot. This led to NAD, it is an energy source. This showed

babies born with defects had reduced levels of NAD. So then we moved into

preclinical studies and we realised we could raise those NAD levels with

Niacin, which is B3. We put it into the drinking water and then we had

babies born completely normally. B3 had bypassed the genetic mutation

were found in the human. I apologise, there is some microphone

noise. If women are trying to get pregnant or are in early pregnancy,

what is the advice with taking B3? At this stage, we would say take the

recommended amount that appears in a pregnancy multi vitamin. We cannot

advise more than that because we have not done the research. But we

are embarking on that research so we can identify women who do have low

NAD levels at risk of having babies with birth defects, and we will do

more work to see what sort of levels of the vitamin, B3, would be safe to

the event birth defects and multiple miscarriages. How can you get B3 if

you are not taking supplements? What food? You probably won't get enough

just from food. But you can get Niacin from red meat, poultry, fish,

legumes, his and lentils, and vegetables. -- peas. Supplements are

important. But for the moment, we are working towards identifying

other and better ways to supplement pregnant women with higher doses of

Niacin. Thank you very much for your time this morning.

In a couple of minutes, we'll be speaking to former US

Vice President, Al Gore, about everything from current

tensions with North Korea, to Donald Trump pulling the US out

Plenty more on our website at the usual address.

Now, though, it's back to Naga and Charlie.

Hello, this is Breakfast with Naga Munchetty and Charlie

Let's bring you up-to-date with the main news of the day.

Northumbria Police has defended paying thousands of pounds

to a convicted child rapist to gather information

In the last few minutes, the chief constable told us that while the

decision to pay ?10,000 to the registered sex offender was

understandably difficult for some people, not using the anonymous

informant could have left the 18 people convicted of grooming

Newcastle abuse victims for longer. The time that we registered him, we

had no idea about the sort of information he would give us, and

whether or not we could get it from elsewhere. So you have a suspicion,

it is a jumping off point for an investigation which leads you to

evidence. Yes, you might have got that evidence through other means,

and it could have -- but it could have taken longer, and that in

itself would expose vulnerable women and girls to an unacceptable level

of risk. And that wouldn't sit comfortably with me, morally,

either. Let's talk more about one our other

top stories this morning. The tensions between

America and North Korea. Jean Lee is a former

Pyongyang bureau chief for the Associated Press

and is in Seoul for us. Thank you for your time today. We

have obviously been talking about the tensions that are ratcheting up

between US resident Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un of North Korea. What is

your reaction, at what stage do you think we are outcome in terms of how

worried we should be? We have definitely seen an escalation in the

rhetoric between the US and North Korea. Frankly, we are used to

hearing this rhetoric from North Korea, but what we are not used is

seeing this fiery language from the US President. That has certainly

raised tensions. The question is, how much are they bluffing, and how

much will they be able to back down from some of these very strong and

specific threats they have made? I should point out nobody in this

region wants another war. But we have more than 80,000 US troops in

this region. The North Korean sub tens of thousands of troops lined up

on the border, and their forces ready to fire. Could there be a

false move I want these military 's, which would force or trigger a

military complex? -- conflict? That is what China and South Korea do not

want, they bought a North Korea and have the most to lose. It is

important to remember that this is somewhat seasonal and somewhat

cyclical. South Koreans are not too ruffled by this. But the question

is, if you keep ratcheting up attention and talk a big game, how

do you back down peacefully? For all intents and purposes, Kim Jong-un is

very mindful of the Indo and, being on the world stage and being

recognised. How much is this about making sure that North Korea stays

at the forefront of people's mines and is not forgotten or dismissed?

-- minds. Extremely important to him. He takes a lot of pride in

being such a small nation which commands the world's attention. I

have to say, for the US President to address North Korea directly is

something of a coup for Pyongyang. That is something to keep in mind.

That is something that experienced leaders understand as well, so they

try to limit the kind of attention they give North Korea. That said,

there is no denying that the acceleration of the buildup of the

nuclear weapons and blistered missile programme in North Korea

needs to be addressed. -- ballistic missile. There are competing

interests you. You don't want to give them more attention than they

deserve, but it does deserve prompt attention. So it is a complicated

dance with North Korea. Good to talk to you. Thank you.

Police hunting a jogger who knocked a pedestrian into the path

of a London bus, say they have received a good response

to their appeal for information, and they are following up several

CCTV footage of the incident on Putney Bridge, appears to show

the man barging into the 33-year-old woman without warning.

She escaped serious injury thanks to the quick reactions of the bus

Facebook is to launch a new service that will compete with TV networks

and online platforms like YouTube and Netflix.

Social media users will soon see a "Watch" tab on their feeds,

which will offer a range of shows, some of which have been funded

It will also allow people to see what their friends are watching

and start conversations with others who are interested in the same

What are we going to watch together? Really, there are so many issues

around about... At this stage, we are not at that stage. I will bring

a list of suggestions and tomorrow so we can start planning our

evenings. Some of them are purely practical things, about the ability

to do those things. Others are about whether you want to do it. There are

all sorts of bombs. We will talk about it later. But not online. We

can think of a way. Time to talk sport. It has been so

exciting. We had Isaac Makwala go it alone, just to show he was running

his race. Yes, good morning. It was incredible last night. I have come

up into the stands just to show you where the fans are sitting during

the athletics. Because so many of the athletes have raised them.

Capacity crowds here of about 60,000 for pretty much every session. They

have really been getting behind the athletes. That was especially true

for one athlete, Isaac Makwala, who was roared on by the crowd. What a

special and emotional night it was for him. To give you some

background, he was given a second chance to compete after he was one

of the athletes found to be a fact to buy the stomach bug outbreak that

happened here at the championships. -- affected by the stomach bug. He

was removed on medical grounds. So he was given the chance to run a

solo time trial in the 200 metres. He had to achieve the qualifying

time. He was cheered on by the crowd. He did it, which means he has

booked his place in the semifinals. Remarkably, Makwala came

second in his semi-final, and just behind him in third was

Britain's Nathaneel Mitchell-Blake, The 400 metre champion

Wayde Van Niekerk also For Makwala though it was all

about the chance to race again and show the world

what he could do. I wish to thank the IAAF

for giving me another chance They didn't need to believe,

the crowd being British, I just want to thank

this crowd, so amazing! Mo Farah will go for double gold

in these Championships again after he qualified for the final

of the 5,000 metres. He'll also be joined by fellow

Briton Andy Butchart after he qualified as a fastest

loser from the second heat. Farah is retiring from track racing

at the end of these championships and says he wants

to go out on a high. You can't dream of something

unless you do something about it. I've been given a chance in life

and I work hard for it and I achieve what I've achieved through hard

work and keep grafting. To all the kids out there,

youngsters, you can be like me and we've got to start thinking

about how we can get the next-generation

to leave a legacy behind. The bad weather here in London

yesterday caused problems for athletes both on

the track and field. Particularly hard for the long

jumpers and in the women's qualifying, Lorraine Ugen

was the only one of three British athletes to make it

into tomorrow's final. Britain's Nick Miller

is into the men's hammer final. He made the qualifying distance

with his very first throw. He'll more than likely need

to better his British record distance if he's to win

a medal tomorrow. There was late drama

in the women's 400 metres. The Bahamas runner Shaunae Miller

We-Bo looked to have the race won but pulled up in the last 20 metres

and finished fourth, The American Phyllis Francis won

gold, her compatriot Allyson Felix Away from the athletics,

England made an impressive start to their defence of

the Women's Rugby World Cup, And the hosts Ireland won

a nail-biting opener against They were leading by nine points

after Sophie Spence's try but the Australians fought back

and Ireland just clinched it, Andy Murray looks set

to lose his world number one ranking after withdrawing from

the Cincinnati Masters with the hip injury that hampered

his Wimbledon campaign. He's also a doubt for the US Open,

which starts at the end No action here this morning but

preparations are already under way. The lawnmowers are out for the start

of the evening session. It is the man's javelin tonight and the field

will be in pristine condition for that. -- men's Javelin.

So, day seven of the championships, three gold medals up for grabs,

including the man's 200 metres. Let's see what is in store for us

later. Britain's Laura Muir is in her second event at these

championships. She finished fourth in the 1500 metres. She won the

European indoor title in the 1500 and 3000 metres in March but has

only run twice before in the 5000 metres distance. Britain's Lynsey

Sharp will be hoping to better sixth-place finish in Rio. Also

competing in this race is the Olympic 800 metre champion Caster

Semenya. Britain's Katarina Johnson-Thompson will be competing

in this single event, traditionally her strongest event in the

heptathlon. She struggled at the weekend, which affected her chances

of winning a medal. British team captain A-League oil took one of the

fastest qualifying slots in the semifinals to make it through to the

final. It is the fourth consecutive global final. Dina Asher-Smith

breezed through her heat to qualify despite having struggled for much of

the season, after breaking her foot back in February. Also through as

the fastest qualifier is Bianca Williams. Nethaneel Mitchell-Blake

is representing Britain in the 200 metres final. He will be up against

Botswana's Isaac Mcquire and South Africa's Wade Vanni Kirk. -- Issac

Makwala. Al Gore served in Bill Clinton's

White House for eight years before becoming an Oscar-winning

documentary maker with his film about climate change,

An Inconvenient Truth. It was described as a global

warming wake-up call Now, he's releasing a sequel,

at a time when President Trump has reset America's commitments

to climate change. We'll speak to Mr Gore in a moment,

but first here's a clip. Some stuff negotiations going on.

What would it take to shift to renewables? I am talking about

breaking the impasse. Virtually every nation in the entire world has

agreed to get to zero greenhouse emissions. It is unprecedented. It

is time to put America first. That includes a promise to cancel

billions on climate change spending. Our plan will lend the EPA. -- end

the EPA. The next generation would be justified in looking back at us

and saying, what we thinking? Couldn't you hear what the

scientists were seen? Couldn't you hear what Mother Nature was

screaming at you? Joining us now from Central London

is former US vice-president, Thank you very much the joining us.

It is a pleasure having you with us on the programme. Thank you. So much

to talk to you about. We were looking at your film there. Your

passion for tackling climate change is unabashed. How do you feel now

about hazard and Trump has made clear that the US is coming out of

the Paris climate accord? -- President Trump. I was concerned

when he made that announcement but I was relieved the next day when the

rest of the world redoubled their commitments to the Paris agreement.

And in the US, our largest states and hundreds of cities and business

leaders said, we are still in the Paris agreement. It now looks as if

the US is going to meet our commitments in spite of Donald

Trump. How do you meet they are going to meet the commitments if

they are going to pull out? I don't think they can pull out until 2019,

but there are still efforts being made to withdraw the US. Yes, well,

the cost of renewable energy is coming down so quickly and cost.

Many cities are now shifting in the US to 100% renewable energy. The

first date on which the legal withdrawal could take place, in any

case, is the day after the next presidential election in 2020. More

importantly, the state governments and local governments and businesses

are moving forward with reductions in spite of Donald Trump. Do you

know what I would love to see, and I am sure many would as well, is a

conversation between you and Donald Trump. Has that happen? Is it

scheduled at all? I went to see him after the election and continued my

conversations with him after he went into the White House. I thought

there was a chance he would come to his senses, but I was wrong. Yes, if

I may, Al Gore, that is a very glib answer. People will be fascinated.

One of the phrases you use a lot in the film is "Speaking truth to

power". It is a great phrase and one that some people might hope Al Gore,

meeting Donald Trump, that is a situation where speaking truth to

power possibly might have an effect. Do you get the sense that he nods

and listens and probably shakes your hand, and you talk about the old

days, and then he ignores everything you said? Well, he has surrounded

himself with a rogues gallery of climate deniers, controlled by the

large carbon polluters. This is well known. I had reason to believe that

he might stay in the Paris agreement, but I think they control

his thinking on this. The truth about the climate crisis is still

inconvenient for these large polluters and the politicians they

control. You will excuse us for asking 12 questions about Donald

Trump more generally, and you will understand the interest we have been

hearing views. -- one or two questions. Once or twice in the

documentary you talk about your despair, to do with issues to do

with climate change. I wonder if some of that despair revolves around

the President that you now have and the way that he goes about his

business? What can you tell us about that?

This is a challenging time for my country. Congress seemed to be fed

up with him. In the next few months it may be challenging. I have no

insight as to how it might come out. We will get through this and we will

work around Donald Trump to solve the climate crisis. This new movie

shows the solutions are advancing rapidly. Sometimes we listen

carefully to what politicians say. You still are one, though not

officially. From what you are saying about Donald Trump, you think there

is a possibility he is in serious trouble to the point where he may no

longer be president? You are seeing the same developments I am, Charlie,

and I have no insight into what the special investigator is finding, but

there was a predawn raid yesterday on the home of his campaign manager.

We will all have to wait and see what develops and whether there is

fire with all this smoke. But in the meantime, we have to move forward.

All these distractions have interfered with the ability of the

US to provide the kind of leadership the world has a right to expect from

the US. But luckily, as I said, governors, mayors, others, they are

stepping up to fill the gap and move forward without Trump. That must be

very brighter -- reassuring for you. By in Donald Trump, not afraid of

increasing rhetoric and escalating tensions between the US and North

Korea, do you feel secure? Do you think Americans feel secure under

his leadership? I think he's comments a few days ago did not help

matters. -- his. But to be fed to Donald Trump, he inherited this

impasse and it is difficult to solve. -- to be fair. I hope China

will enforce the sanctions the UN authorised. It is a very difficult

situation. I would say this. His Secretary of Defence and National

Security Advisor are universally race record. There are some cool

hands around him during this crisis and I hope he listens. There are

criticisms he inherited it from administrations like your Roman and

Bill Clinton that failed to get a grip on 03. -- your own. The Obama

administration and so on as well. South Korea has a capital city just

a few miles from the border, and they are our allies. It is a very

difficult situation. Diplomacy is the best chance to resolve this. It

has not worked for decades now and they have continued with their

testing of long-range missiles and nuclear testing. I will take you

back to climate change. It is a personal film. You talk about your

family. Is that a driving force, thinking about the legacy, what will

be left behind by your generation and others? I will also point out we

are feeling the effects of the climate crisis now. You have had

all-time record downpours here in the United Kingdom in the last

couple of years. Just this week there were record fires and high

temperatures in southern Europe. You could go right around the world.

Every weather forecast is like a nature hike in the book of

Revelation. Many people might not see this as a political controversy,

it is about the survival of our civilisation. We have the solutions

now. The movie, opening this Friday, in 300 some odd theatres in England,

it everything you need to know about the crisis and the solutions to

fight yes. -- solutions. How is the view in London? I am optimistic we

are going to solve this climate crisis, but we need to move forward

more quickly. Thank you very much, Al Gore. He has an ending passion to

solve climate change -- unending. There will be some sun in the

forecast. Good morning. For many of us today, the forecast is a dry one

and one of sunny spells. As always, a few exceptions. Parts of the

south-west of England had a lot of rain courtesy of this area of low

pressure still dragging across the south-east. In the shape of showers

and patchy rain and cloud, that is. We will move away. The bulk of the

UK will be dry and sunny. Northern Scotland, a weather front producing

more cloud, some rain and drizzle, especially in the Northern Isles.

The rest of Scotland, it will be dry. Dry in southern counties of

England and the Isle of Wight to be Dorset, Somerset. In the wind,

pleasant. Call on the coast. Wales, a dry start. Some sunshine. Sunny

spells across Northern Ireland is cloud coming our way. Dry with sunny

spells. Cloud and spots of rain at times. As we come across north-east

England, north-west England, dry weather and sunny spells. The same

for most of the Midlands. A little bit of cloud and the odd showers the

south-east to be staying dry for the athletics in London today. Highs of

21 in the sun. The evening and overnight. The weather front will go

away. Brightening up in the evening. Most of England and Wales will be

dry. Scotland and Northern Ireland, a weather front coming our way

introducing rain. Also some strengthening wind. This is the

first one going south. Another one behind that. It is more week. The

space between the isobars shows it will be windy. Dry and bright with

sunshine. The rain is already in Northern Ireland in Scotland and it

goes south. As it does that, it will start to turn more patchy in nature

and it will start to bring rain to the west. This rain will not make it

to the south-east until even in time. Eventually it will. Overnight,

both weather fronts will go south. High pressure building in. That is

it for this weekend, settled and chilly in the morning and evening

with sunshine between. Saturday, showers to the north. Temperatures

getting to 21. Sunday. Almost the same thing. Dry weather. Chilly in

the morning and evening. Temperatures up to 21 in the

sunshine. It will feel quite nice. Have you started watching Game of

Thrones? No. Us either. But it is one of the most successful TV shows.

You don't want to give away the plot. They have been hacked. Scripts

are out. Ransoms are being required. Good morning.