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Hillsborough campaigners welcome today's referral of 23 cases

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Today is a momentous day. Through every stage we've been

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through, with had no one to tell us that there are now potentially 23.

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It's the biggest ever investigation into alleged police wrongdoing.

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Firefighters from two counties tackle a huge fire that has

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destroyed one of Barrow's most historic buildings.

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He'd stop fracking, but he won't budge on immigration -

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we put your questions to Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn.

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Celebrations for Kitty - 106 today and still going strong.

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It's been announced this afternoon that 23 individuals

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and organisations could face prosecution

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Files from two criminal inquiries into the tragedy

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and its aftermath have been passed to the Crown Prosecution Service.

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96 Liverpool fans died as a result of a fatal crush

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at an FA Cup semifinal in Sheffield in 1989.

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Last year, an inquest jury found that they'd been unlawfully killed.

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Our Merseyside reporter, Andy Gill, is at the Hillsborough Memorial

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Andy, just how important is this decision on possible prosecutions?

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It's certainly an important day, although by no means the end of the

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Heswall story. One family member to me as a

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momentous day. Other families are disappointed as what they see as a

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low number of possible prosecutions over Hillsborough. These two

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criminal enquiries have been running for four years, since the report of

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the Hillsborough Independent panel. A massive undertaking, 335 million

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words in the reports. Since those inquest ended, they've been

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concluding their work, gathering evidence about possible

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prosecutions, and they pay a lot is in the Court of the Crown

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Prosecution Service. -- the ball is in the court.

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Two separate criminal investigations have been running side-by-side.

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Operation Resolve has been investigating possible crimes in the

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run-up to the disaster. Today, they handed over files about 15

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individuals and organisations to the Crown Prosecution Service.

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The investigation has been as thorough and impartial and

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independent as it could be. Out of that, 15 people we've been able to

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identify through evidence. Hillsborough campaigners say it's an

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important step. Today is a momentous step to be told

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that the papers have been handed over. Relatively please, actually,

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for the simple reason, when we look back over all the years and every

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stage we've been through, we had no one at all. And to be told now that

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potentially 23. The names of individuals and

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corporate bodies in the operation resolve and IPCC files have not been

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made public. But the new Hillsborough inquest jury came to a

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verdict of unlawful killing on the families' deaths, and said the match

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Superintendent David Duckenfield was responsible for manslaughter by

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gross negligence. A finding by an inquest jury is not a finding of

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criminal guilt. Possible offences considered by Operation Resolve

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include most negligence involving manslaughter, and offences under

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health and safety laws. The second run at enquiry into Hillsborough has

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been run by the police watchdog, the IPCC. It's looked at allegations of

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a cover-up in the aftermath of the disaster, and considered possible

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offences like misconduct in public office and perverting the course of

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justice. Today, the IPCC said eight files to the Crown -- Crown

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Prosecution Service. They have been consistently saying

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it will take up to six months to make charging decisions after they

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have received the evidence files. Recognising the frustrations for the

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families about how long this is taken.

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We have taken a long time to get to this, and we feel they should be

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doing more now. We needed to be hurried up, basically. We need them

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to move on a more quickly than they are.

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Former Merseyside Chief Constable, Norman Bettison, who was an

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inspector in Yorkshire in 1989, said in his recent book, he was being

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treated as a potential suspect. He told the inquest he was not part of

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a black propaganda unit, set up to blame Liverpool fans for the

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disaster. But it is not knowing if his name has been put forward for a

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charging decision. It could be another six months before the CPS

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decides if there will be prosecutions or not.

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Joining us now is a solicitor who represented 20 of the families at

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the recent inquest at, and distal representing them. Overall, what do

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your clients think of the news today that 23 files have gone to the CPS?

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A mixture of some relief that at last things look like they are

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starting to move, and a sense of disappointment that that number is a

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small as it is. In particular, the number eight, where the IPCC were

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looking at what we call a cover-up. Webby disappointed in that figure?

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What sort of numbers did they think might be referred to the CPS?

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The IPCC are telling us there are over 250 statements, and if 250

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officers altered their statements, why are only eight files going to

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CPS? There might still be a number of

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police disciplinary cases under investigation, might that not, some

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of those cases? -- cover some of those cases?

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It might, but a number of those officers have left the force, so

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this disciplinary investigations will have no practical outcome.

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You are keen that they CPS gets on with this, and want to keep them

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under scrutiny to make sure they reach a decision as fast as they

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can. Very much so, they are talking

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three-six months, but we know they have been working alongside other

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organisations for the last three years, so this should be on top of

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this evidence and able to turn it over fairly quickly. That said, we

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do want the job to be done properly. Thank you very much indeed. From the

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Hillsborough memorial here at Anfield, back to you.

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The body of a soldier from Greater Manchester -

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who died on duty in Iraq - has been returned to the UK.

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Lance Corporal Scott Hetherington from Middleton served

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with 2nd Battalion - the Duke of Lancaster's Regiment.

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He died as a result of shooting accident.

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Four of the five candidates to become Metro Mayor

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of Greater Manchester have rejected controversial plans

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to build thousands of new houses on green belt land.

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Both the Liberal Democrats and Ukip says they would scrap

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the proposals completely, but councils insist the homes

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More protest marches against the plans will take

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I think it needs a complete fresh start, frankly.

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More important issues need to be taken into account,

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I mean, the consultation process seems to be with developers rather

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than what is actually needed within the communities.

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Five people have been charged in connection with allegations of

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physical abuse at a boarding school in Cumbria.

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It follows a lengthy investigation into Underley Hall

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in Kirkby Lonsdale, which closed some years ago.

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Stuart Flinders is in our newsroom with the latest

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What other policing about the men they have charged?

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There are five of them, they are from Lancashire, Cumbria and

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Yorkshire, and all charged with ABH, actual bodily harm. One of them

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Errol Questa Mayer is charged with child cruelty. Mr Mayer is in his

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70s, the youngest of the men is 50 years old. The allegations date back

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to the 1970s, 80s and 90s. This investigation has been going on

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for some time? Yes, it's Court Operation To Eat, it

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began at Cumbria police in July 20 14. It investigates a school,

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Underley Hall in Kirkby Lonsdale. Police say in the time it took to

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take this investigation to a conclusion, it is described as a

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complex investigation, involving people across the country and

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involved. -- abroad. The school closed in 2012, five men have been

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charged with this investigation, they will appear at South Cumbria

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Magistrates' Court on February 15. Thank you.

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Firefighters from across Cumbria and Lancashire have been tackling

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The blaze broke out at the listed Lords Tavern in the town centre just

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There were no injuries, but people were evacuated

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from nearby homes, as Beccy Barr reports.

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It took more than 90 firefighters to tackle this blaze at a pub in Barrow

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town centre overnight. The Fire Service was called at 9pm to the pub

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in Abbey Road. There were several units in attendance, as well as

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support from Lancashire Fire and rescue.

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The building's listed, where it is working to determine the way for it

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to make it safe so the people can utilise the back streets, which are

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currently prohibited due to the risk to themselves. We will look with

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building control to find a way forward.

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No-one was injured, but 14 local residents were evacuated overnight.

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Several stayed in a nearby community centre, there are back home now. The

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fire is under control and an investigation is underway to find

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out exactly what happened here. For those who had to leave their homes

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overnight, there was help from the clothes bank in nearby St Margaret's

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Church. -- Saint Mark's church. We offered toiletries, clean close

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anything they might not have been able to pack when they left last

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night. Barrow always pulls together, whenever there's in incidents,

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always. I have never known the community to fail when something

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like this goes on. The building has partially

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collapsed, and Abbey Road is likely to remain closed for some time.

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Plans have been approved for Manchester's new

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The building, costing ?110 million, will become the permanent home

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of the Manchester International Festival.

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Steven Gerrard is to receive the freedom

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Mayor Joe Anderson says he'll be given the honour

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for his contribution to football and his charity work

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Starr has blanketed Upland areas of the North West, making driving

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treacherous. Drivers are advised to avoid the main road between Cheshire

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and Derbyshire because of the snowfall.

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Dianne will have a full forecast at the end of the programme.

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Greater Manchester Police has apologised for its

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response to a string of sex attacks in Levenshulme.

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Three people, including two children, have been attacked

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More than 100 people attended a public meeting last night,

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Detectives have now promised to do more.

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Police worked to reassure the public following a series of sex attacks in

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Levenshulme. A violent attack, a sexual attack,

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particularly on children, is just horrific.

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People are taking their own steps, they are walking to school in

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groups, walking dogs in parks together.

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Don't walk around on foot as much. I tend to use the car more than I used

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to. Just because it's saver. Everybody looks out for everybody

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else, that's a massive help. There have been three rates in the

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area since September. The first sort someone assaulted in a Crow Croft

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Park, then a nearby Cringle Park someone was attacked in broad

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daylight. Just days later, it is well was attacked from behind on

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Chapel Street. All attacks took less than half a mile apart. Despite

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this, detectives insist they're not being linked.

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We're going to be visiting local schools, providing reassurance

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messages, I worried the inner dialogue with community groups.

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The police response has been criticised by some, and last night

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the force apologised for not doing enough.

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We managed to get answers out of the police, who also apologised for

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their lack of visibility in Levenshulme over the past months and

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years. We can only hope they continue to be proactive rather than

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reactive now. Hundreds turned out as a show

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support for the victims are in November. And while the offender of

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each attack is still at large, the community insists it will still

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stand united. We will not stand for this, we will

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reclaim our streets, our parks and make sure we are safe.

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Sheridan returns to Oldham, as Latics show Robbo the door.

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# You make me happy when skies are grey

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# You never know, dear, how much I love you

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# Please don't take my sunshine away #.

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We're going to meet the stock warrant songbird, she is 106 today.

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That was the intention of Jeremy Corbyn and his team

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as they planned a people-friendly relaunch this week.

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But new starts don't always go to plan.

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On Tuesday he was criticised for delivering a mixed message

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on immigration and for suggesting a salary cap.

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Can our political editor Nina Warhurst get to the bottom

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of his policies, and what they mean for the North West?

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I'd like to start by asking you why do you think you're faring so badly

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15% of northerners - one-five - see you as a Prime Minister?

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We've got to get our message out there, we've got to campaign,

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The issues of inequality in Britain, the issues

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of the National Health Service, of opportunities for young people

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We're campaigning very hard to get our message

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across about the kind of country we could be.

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Our viewers who got in touch, I'll give you a couple of examples -

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Eilidh, from Tameside, said, I agree with Jeremy on lots of things,

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but he's out of touch with northern Labour voters

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What I want to do is end the undercutting

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of existing pay and conditions, the explotation of people in awful

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The northwest of England told you in the Brexit vote,

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You're assuming that all those who voted Brexit voted on one issue.

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There are many issues people voted on.

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We need to have an economic relationship with Europe

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in the future, that's what Labour's committed to.

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That's what we're working with colleagues across Europe for.

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Paul Nuttall, who is the new leader of Ukip, he's a plain-speaking

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northerner, and his message is clear on immigration -

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Why shouldn't those voters in the North West turn to Ukip?

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I think what we have to do is ensure that there is no more undercutting

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No more people being brought in by agencies...

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That sounds to our viewers like you're more worried

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about the rights of immigrants then you are about their concerns,

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about the impact of immigration on their communities.

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It would have a big effect, because it would mean people that

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who've got agreed working conditions in this country wouldn't then be

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We know you're not a supporter of it, it's already been

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If you were Prime Minister tomorrow, would you say, sorry,

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Cuadrilla, put the brakes on, we need you to leave.

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We have announced a party conference that we want to put

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We're very concerned about the effects on the environment of it

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and of the pollution of ground water supplies because of it.

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You don't like fracking, you don't like Trident,

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you don't like larger pharmaceuticals - they're three

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areas that generate enormous wealth in the North West.

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What jobs would you give those families?

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Well, I'm not against pharmaceutical industries,

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what I'm against is some of the pricing systems operated

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by big pharma companies, which isn't the same thing at all.

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What we want to do is develop a diverse energy-generation

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system in this country, there are many jobs to be created

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through renewable energy products and energy development.

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As we want to see a diverse energy production.

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We want a pharmaceutical industry that works in the interests

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of the NHS, and that is what we're going to do.

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Can I quickly ask you a question - Chris from Merseyside has been

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in touch, he's worried about your cap on salaries.

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He says we have four massive football clubs in the North West,

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if you were to cap salaries at a certain cut-off point,

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that would mean footballers leaving England, that would destroy

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What we're talking about is CEO levels of payment, that

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are ludicrously out of kilter with the levels of pay

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Is that not the same with a footballer?

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No, a footballer is not a chief executive.

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A footballer is an employee of a club.

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And finally, final question, this has come from Elaine

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in Blackpool, she's 12 years old, she says, when - not if -

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you become Prime Minister, will you shave your beard?

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I'll keep the beard on, thank you very much, Elaine.

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Thank you very much for talking to BBC North West.

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There's a touch of the new and old at Oldham Athletic after the club

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made their sixth managerial change in under two years. At the Stephen

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Robinson after a few months in charge, and the club rock bottom of

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League 1. And so... Sorry, we going to face

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thing? Oldham fans will be surprised who is replaced him, John Sheridan.

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Third time lucky for John Sheridan? In many ways, this is as football

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spiritual home, he was a very ocular player, backed his third spell. Very

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in that third spell -- first spell. Almost a year ago today, he returned

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to Oldham, managed to keep them up, clearly, the thinking here is that

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if you did then, you can do it again.

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So, it's good to have him back. Steve Robinson, just a short period

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of time in charge, but he didn't quite cut it, did he?

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No, there has been a transfer embargo in place here, that it

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didn't help. I understand that will be lifted by the latest, next week.

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You have to say, yeah and experienced manager, he was

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assistant manager for Northern Ireland at Euro 2016, but he just

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didn't reduce results. They haven't had a win here in the league since

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October. If you look at the League 1 table, it really doesn't look good.

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Rock bottom, three points from safety. The chief executive told me

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here he's sure things will turn. John comes in, he knows the club,

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knows the position we're in, but there will be the opportunity to

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make signings very quickly. It's well-publicised we had the transfer

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embargo on us, that will be sorted, players will come in and we hope the

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king because the lift we need. John Sheridan were need to improve

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-- improve the co-scoring tally, they had the lowest in the whole

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football league. His first match in charge will be against Chesterfield.

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We do know it's not snowing at boundary Park, traditionally one of

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the coldest bubble grounds in the country, they're perhaps isn't much

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around. We will have the weather with Diane

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in a few moments. There's an old saying about not

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asking a lady about her age, but we're going to make

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an exception in the case of Kitty Wiley from Stockport,

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who today is celebrating Which meant getting another card

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from the Queen and the latest in a very, very long line

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of birthday parties. Our reporter Ian Haslam

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was among the guests. This was 1911 -

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the year of King George V's coronation. There was in at the

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so-called siege of Sydney Street, whilst Sunstar one horse racing's

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derby. And Katie Wylie was born, so what was it like growing up in the

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early 20th century? We went to school, we went home from

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school, and life went on quite smoothly like that. Why do you

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expect me to say? It was lovely? It was bloody awful.

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Fair enough. And at the residential home, they have been celebrating

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Kitty's hundred six birthday in style. 106 birthday in style. She

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married Bob, he died, leaving Kitty with treasured memories.

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I wouldn't know what my favourite memory would be, but walking ten

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that church aisle in a lovely wedding gown, with my husband to be,

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it was a great joy. The couple had a son, David.

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Her mother was one of 15 children, of which four of them were over 100.

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Sergei definitely comes from a good stock?

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Think that's why she's so old! And one thing his mum especially

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loves doing, singing. Happy birthday, Kitty, 106, great

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genes! She is such a character, were watching through that interview as

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well, she gave Ian a run for his money.

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Let's find out about the weather, there has been slow on higher

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ground, has better? Not that much in the major population centres?

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I did say this time last night, there would be snow showers

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anywhere, they haven't turned up at all.

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We were getting excited about it? Down south, they have got trains

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cancelled. For most of us, we have managed to escape it. Sticking with

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the wintry conditions for the next couple of days. White band, it was

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around, a light covering this morning, just because you didn't see

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it, some places have. -- Blackburn, it was around. Look at the contrast

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between Saturday and Sunday. Saturday very cold, Sunday at less

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cold. Temperatures around 9 degrees. We are still under our Met Office

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warning for slow. The yellow warning is the lowest level of warning, so

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knows it never did impact at all. Showers continued to move across the

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North West. Many us saw heavy bursts of rain earlier on. That

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northwesterly winds will start to pick up towards the early hours of

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the morning. As it meets the cold air, snow showers are a possibility,

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but the one expires around midnight, and the next warning is for eyes, on

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untreated surfaces in the morning. The air temperatures is low under

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the blue parts of the map. Wintry in nature for some, and anything fallen

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on untreated surfaces could cause slippery conditions tomorrow

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morning. Even on the coast, conditions might be brilliant for

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you. It's not about the snow in particular, that working its way

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through in the early hours, ice will be the bigger problem. 0 degrees in

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towns and cities, minus figures in rural areas. Once we get rid of that

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early line, the day looks very good indeed. However, if you look at the

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numbers on the wings, very strong wind first thing tomorrow. Very

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cold. That change in direction benefits us, because it comes from

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true north, Scotland takes up most of the showers. Scotland make sure

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they showers don't get west action. It is going to look good, with that

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very strong wind it will feel utterly cold. Once that went eases

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down, you may get four on paper, but in reality probably feeling about

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one. Called! But we should be grateful to

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the Scottish hills? That's kind of them.

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MLS you're a youngster hoping there will be lots of school -- snow and

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school because of? A very icy, very cold.

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We will update the weather tonight at 10:30pm.

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Good night. ..and keep telling yourself

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over and over, "This will end." Ladies and gentlemen,

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the bride and groom. So what if I forgot

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our poxy anniversary? Er, I think this year

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was copper. 14th is poxy. Marriage is a marathon,

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not a sprint. Like a marathon,

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you have to keep on going... ..drink as much as you can... Please

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tell me you can see them, too. ..and keep telling yourself

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over and over, "This will end." Ladies and gentlemen,

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the bride and groom.

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