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This is BBC World News today with me, David Eades. Cold and come,

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powered by drugs, pursuing his own revolution. It portrait of Anders

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Behring Breivik by his lawyer. is in a war. He sinks that the rest

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of the world cannot understand his point of view. -- she thinks.

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happens if nobody blinks? The deadline looms on the US debt

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crisis with growing signs of antagonism between Republicans and

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Democrats. The Palestinian solution for

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statehood, a negotiating chip or a genuine bid for UN recognition?

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And new art but with a traditional Islamic influence, we look at the

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shortlisted works for the Jameel Welcome to the programme. The

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lawyer of the man who has admitted carrying out the mass killings in

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Norway on Friday has said everything about the case suggests

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his client is insane. He said it was too early to know whether

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Anders Behring Breivik would pleasing sanity at his trial. He

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said that he had used drugs before the attacks and expected to be

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killed during the operation. He believes himself to be at war with

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democracy. -- pleading insanity. The official naming of Norway's

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debt is underway. A shocking reminder that most victims were

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children or very young adults. Among them, Ismail Haji Ahmed, a

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Among them, Ismail Haji Ahmed, a 20-year-old model and dancer. The

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youngest, Johannes Buo, just 14. Among stores tipped as future stars,

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Tore Eikeland, 21, and described as one of the country's most promising

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use -- most promising youth politicians. Among those missing

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trying to swim away was Hanne Kristine Fridtun, who addressed the

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Labour Party conference in April. And Monica bowside, who had run the

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And Monica bowside, who had run the summer camp for years. This is

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their self-confessed killer, Anders Behring Breivik. Today, the lawyer

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defending him described him as insane. This whole case, he has

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indicated he is insane. What does he say? He says the rest of the

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world does not understand his point of view. He thinks that in 60

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years' time, we will understand him. He was asked if he showed any

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remorse. He says that he is sorry that he had to do this but that it

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was necessary to start the revolution in the Western world.

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An exchange a text messages between a 16-year-old girl and her mother

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at a height of the attack has been released by the family.

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teenager believes that private is a The girl survived the massacre. And

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this is part, just part of Norway's response to that. AC of flowers

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outside Oslo Cathedral. -- A C. Norwegians say they are determined

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to prove the killer wrong in every way. Wrong for what he did, and

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also wrong if he really believed that the massacre would destroy

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Norway or start some kind of revolution. But some Norwegians are

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critical of the police and the Government. The police, for taking

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too long to reach the island, and the Government for failing to

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provide helicopters for a rapid response. I do not think this could

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have gone faster. I cannot see how that could have been possible under

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these conditions. By we will always try to be better, but I cannot see

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how we could have done this faster. For now, Norway's focuses on the

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dead and those still missing. Each evening, the police release more

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names as the terrible process of identifying all of -- all who have

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been lost goes on. As the days pass, events will be

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seen with an ever more critical eye in Norway, hence the focus on the

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speed with which the police reach the island where Breivik went on

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that run page. The father of one young man who died spoke today of

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the phone call he had with his son as the killing started. "Dad,

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someone has started shooting", those were the last words he heard

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his son utter. Gavin Hewitt has been talking to some of the

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rescuers. Across from the island were so many

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died, there are people still waiting with young people still

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missing. What is emerging here is the story of those rescued and

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questions about the police response. The heart of the rescue was a

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campsite and small boats. This couple launched their boats to help

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people swimming from the island when a man dressed as a policeman

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was hunting down their friends. first thing was that they did not

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trust us. They shouted from the water, "Can I trust you?" And we

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had to give them some comfort, to say that yes, they could trust us.

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The gunmen roamed the island for over an hour and many of the young

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people were using their mobiles to call for help. So one had to call

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the police and then some of the girls said that they had already

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but they did not believe them. injured were driven to the nearby

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town, where the police were waiting for assault units. The robot -- the

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road block terrified those rescued. There was a police woman with a

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black suit and a gun. And all the seven people in the car were

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screaming. They shouted at me, don't stop, don't stop! Because

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that is how the guy was dressed. When the Swat teams arrived, they

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used a local police boat but it was too small for them. It quickly to

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corn water and broke down so they have to turn to private boats like

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this. This was the boat eventually used by the Swat teams. They

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captured the gunman after just two minutes. It was a press helicopter

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that took this picture of Breivik on the island. But the police

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helicopter was to the south and the police team travelled by road. The

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local community is reluctant to criticise the police response, but

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it is the people of a small campsite who were the rescuers of

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shivering and injured young people. I have seen things that nobody

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should have to see. The overriding problem was that the gunman had

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calculated that by setting off an explosion in Oslo, he would draw

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the police there while he had time to massacre young people at a

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summer camp. Aslak Sira Myhre is the former

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leader of the Red Electoral Alliance Party who has often warned

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about extreme right-wing sentiment in Norway. I put it to him that

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this kind of violence was on a different level from the far right

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debate that has been going on in recent years. This is extremely

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special, rare and horrible in awe way. But the question of right-wing

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terror is not new, neither in the world nor in Norway. We seem to be

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starting to think that the act of violence against innocents is

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something with the characteristics of the other, something that

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fundamentalist Muslims, the other, not Europeans, have within them.

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But if we look at our history, especially in Norway, the few acts

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of terror that have been perpetrated in Norway have been

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from Neil Nazis, racists and the extreme right. -- neo-Nazi is.

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D Maycock you're fellow countrymen and women, who by and large

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probably did think this was some sort of Islamic fundamentalist

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attack. That is what Western Europe has come to expect. There are many

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lessons to be learned from this and one of the lessons is that we all

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fought in the beginning that this had to be Muslims. Some of us

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because of the war that Norway has participated in in Afghanistan and

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in Libya, but all too many because we think it is them, it is always

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them. Secondly, it is interesting to learn from how we reacted. It

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seemed to be a fundamentalist Islamic attack and probably does

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said they would stand by Norway in the struggle and used the same

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rhetoric as they used after 9/11 and as they have used in the war of

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terror. And when it seems to not be a fundamentalist Muslim attack but

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the opposite, it is not a Muslim butter muslin 80, then it changes

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and it becomes storm back sorry to interrupt but you have a level of

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criticism there of the knee-jerk response to a major event like this.

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What about the proper response, the ways that Norwegians have come out

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in hundred some -- in their hundreds of thousands and expressed

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the need for greater openness and tolerance? I am extremely proud to

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be Norwegian these days. It is fantastic to see how our country

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has reacted and stood together, how people want to share the grief of

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the wounded and the families of the dead, how people react as a nation.

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There is only one thing to say, I am proud and hopefully we can use

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this to change the way that we speak and discuss things in the

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future. Unfortunately, I am not certain that we would have reacted

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the same way if this was a Norwegian Muslim boy with

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connections to Al-Qaeda. I am not certain that we would have been

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able to react in the same collective way, but we should be

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able to do that. I think this is one of the things that we can take

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out of this tragic catastrophe, that this is the way that we should

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act on all kinds off charges -- national tragedies.

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To the story that everyone said was bound to end in a deal and yet,

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like a classic thriller, the American debt crisis is moving ever

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closer to the precipice. In seven days' time, the US government could

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default on its debts if Republicans and Democrats fail to settle their

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differences and raise the debt ceiling as required by law to allow

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further borrowing. Seven days may sound like one enough but the two

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sides are drifting further from a compromise.

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-- like long enough. Six days and counting before the world's biggest

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bore a were risks defaulting on its debts and a new global economic

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crisis. -- borrow or risks. President Obama

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and his opponents are at a stalemate.

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Unfortunately, a Republican House met -- house members has said that

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the only way they will vote to prevent the default is that if the

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rest -- is it the rest of us agreed to... The battle is being fought

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out on television with of Republican leaders saying that

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Obama is holding up the deal. President wanted a blank cheque six

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months ago and he wants a blank cheque today. As the threat of

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meltdown draws closer, opinion poll numbers just favour Obama. More

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Americans prefer his next of spending cuts and tax rises. With

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world stock markets down, fears are growing that the US could actually

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do fault and see its credit rating downgraded. -- actually default.

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have a default or to have a significant downgrading of the

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United States signature would be a very serious event, not for the

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United States alone, but for the global economy at large. Behind

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these windows, politicians are feeling the pressure. Four lines of

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the US Congress are jammed after President Obama called on Americans

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to lobby their representatives to get a deal done. -- form lines. For

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the first time, there is the smell of panic in air. The inconceivable

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could happen and America will be unable to pay its bills. After that,

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no one is sure what will happen. Time for a look at some of the

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day's other news. New figures suggest the British economy

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achieved only feeble growth in the three months to June as output rose

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just 0.2%. Experts think it may have been affected by one-off

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factors including a bank holiday for the royal wedding in April.

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Observers say the figures may increase pressure on the Government

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to take steps to boost the recovery. 78 people were killed and three

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seriously injured when a Moroccan military transport plane crashed

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into a mountain in the south of the country. The Hercules C-130

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aircraft was attempting to land near the city of Guelmim. The army

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blames poor weather for the crash. There were nine crew, 60 troops and

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12 civilians on board. NATO bombing raids in Libya are

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putting the health service in Tripoli under strain according to

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the United Nations mission in the country. They say that medical

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supplies are running low and most foreign medical staff have left the

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city. The mission has highlighted shortages in food, electricity and

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petrol with power cuts rising prices and the queues at fuel

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stations. China has ordered a rail safety

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campaign amid public outrage following a train crash that killed

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nearly 40 people. The cause of the crash is not yet known. Chinese

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media say the government has begun to compensate victims' relatives.

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The funeral has taken place in London of Amy Winehouse, found dead

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at her home on Saturday. The service included prayers in both

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English and Hebrew. It ended with the congregation being invited to

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sing Amy Winehouse's favourite song, So Far Away, by Carol Kane. The

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cause of her -- has not yet been Palestinians have the support of

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the Arab state, but Israel and the United States to oppose the move.

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They want peace talks to be be entered. Jon Donnison reports from

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Ramallah. Palestinians. A people without a state. They conflict with

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Israel, the Middle East's most difficult problem. Negotiations

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have failed. President -- President Obama launched the most recent plea

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for peace. But talks collapsed after less than a month. Now the

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Palestinians have changed tack. territory has been occupied for 63

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years now. We need best solution based on international doors like

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other countries. We want to be represented in the United Nations

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other country. The President is threatening to go to the UN's

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general Assembly in October to pushed to become a member state.

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Some in the international community are of similar mind. I want to get

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Inigo see Asian restarted again at some point -- a negotiation. But at

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a vote, Pallister -- Israel has a key ally in the United States. In

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has the power of veto and can block the Palestinian move. But the

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Palestinians say they are pushing ahead regardless. Most Palestinians

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here know that the UN bid in September will not change reality

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on the ground. Good will not end his role's occupation. But for the

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Palestinian leadership, it is about putting pressure on Israel.

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To discuss this some more I'm joined here in the studio by Manuel

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Hassassian, the Palestinian ambassador to the UK, and from our

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New York studio by Akram Baker, a Palestinian political analyst and

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former advisor to Faisal Husseini, First Minister of Jerusalem Affairs

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under Yasser Arafat. The Israelis will not take this. The Americans

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don't want it. What is the point? Is well should understand that by

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us going to the UN, it is a serious thing for it is rare to understand

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that they have to have engaged back in the political process. But the

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message coming back from the other side is that you must re-engage.

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Our first and second and third options are negotiations. But we

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have no option to go to the United Nations. But they should not be

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understood that it is a substitute for negotiations. If the United

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States is going to be towed this, we are going to pursue it in the

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General Assembly -- if they are not going to allow this. Given the

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situation at the moment, given the general state of operations with

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the Palestinian Authority, are you in any position at all to declare

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yourself the state? First of all, Hamas and feta are in the process

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off peace talks. It has nothing to do with negotiations, this is our

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right. It has to be about negotiations, doesn't it? We all

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know you cannot get a solution and left -- unless everyone is in on it.

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But we have to protect it from action by Israel. As soon as we get

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recognition as a member of the United Nations, the whole ball game

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will be different. In a political discussion, you have to end the

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permanent status. Thank you for joining us. Do you see a genuine

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purpose to pursuing this in the UN? I see there is no other alternative,

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because the entire peace process is stalled. It doesn't even exist.

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it is better than nothing? I don't think they have a choice because

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they have not been any kind of progress, nothing on the part of

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the United Nations or the United States government. -- there has not

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been any kind of progress. Americans don't want it, let's not

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be too surprised, the Israelis don't want it either. If the

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Americans don't want it, it is not going to help. I think that the PA

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should be dissolved any way. If they don't want a peace process,

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nor do they want this thing, then throw them back the keys. If this

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does not work, you have shot your bald. We have tried this, you have

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further alienated the United States in Israel. First of all, this

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process of going to the United Nations is not to do with the

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United States. We still believe that United States should be the

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broker for peace. You can't have someone who should be the broker

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that you're not going to play it their way. The process has been

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stalling for a long time. We have done our share. We haven't seen the

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Israeli side doing anything and we haven't seen any pressure from the

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United States against Israel. do seem to exude a sense of

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frustration? 20 years ago, before the Oslo process, when I was a

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spokesman, they had a Palestinian negotiator. All the meetings, we

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were saying, stop the settlements. 20 years later, we're saying the

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same thing. Nothing has gone forward. What do expect the

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Palestinians to do? We have to end it on that question. Thank you are

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very much for joining a. Some of the finest new works

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influenced by the Islamic tradition and design are on show at the

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Victoria and Albert Museum in London. They're all nominated for

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the �25,000 Jameel Prize. The winner will be announced in

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September and contenders come from countries as diverse as Iran, the

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USA, Iraq and Pakistan. We had a There is a real relevance with all

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of these traditions. A lot of artists are gradually being lost in

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society, so by including this in their work they give it a new

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meaning and celebrate its importance. We have an Arabian

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artist best in the States and we have shortlisted to have her works.

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-- based in the States. And another woman inserts her own fare -- a

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photographic images of life in Iran. And we have the theme of fashion

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Week, a fashion spectacle where she has used images of a woman walking

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down the street. We have another Iranian artist, again one of the

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youngest artists in her late twenties, based in the States. Her

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practice over the last 10 years has involved hand writing and printing

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the word -- love. We have another artist based in Canada, Iranian,

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who has produced a new work for the prize. He has used the patterns of

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the met -- nomadic carpet as a blueprint but architectural models

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that sit on top of this. -- With all of the 10 artists and

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designers, they show a real knowledge of Kraft and design and

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the material itself. Some of these materials like brickwork have

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traditionally been used as decoration, but now they have

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become the subject for the work and not just as important as the

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concept. What is great about the prize is that it really broadens

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people's minds about what they think Islamic work entails. More

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than anything, it shows that these traditions are very much alive,

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very much relevant now. By integrating that in their work,

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they give it new meaning and show that in -- interaction is really

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Some powerful designs bear. I just want to remind you of our main news.

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The lawyer for the man who's admitted carrying out the mass

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killings in Norway on Friday has said everything about the case

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suggests his client is insane. Meanwhile, police have defended

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their handling of the event in which 76 people died in the bombing

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in Oslo and a shooting spree on a nearby island. We have got the

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There has been some unusual snow across parts of South Africa, but

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things quieten him down throughout the day on Wednesday. Quite cloudy

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skies at times in Cape Town. More hot sunshine as we would expect at

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this time of year across much of North Africa. Some sunshine to the

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east and West of the Mediterranean, but in the -- in between some brain.

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Things cold and cloudy on Wednesday. But things tanning warm at the end

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of the week. It is a drier forecast for the next couple of days. Across

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