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This is a BBC World News Today with me, Zeinab Badawi.

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Why on week on - a day of memorial for the victims of the Norway

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attacks. The Prime Minister says standing together is the only way

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to fight violence. TRANSLATION: We are going to answer hatred with

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lover. We are going to honour our heroes for ever.

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Time is running out - President Obama appeals to both parties to

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work together to solve the US debt problem.

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Who did it and why? Mystery surrounds the death of Libya's top

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rebel commander. And rare photographs of some great

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screen stars of the Hollywood era Exactly one week after the bomb

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attack and mass shooting in Norway, hundreds of people have attended a

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memorial service in Oslo to honour the 77 victims. The man who

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admitted carrying out the attack, Anders Behring Breivik, is being

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questioned for a second time. The funeral of the first of the victims

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has taken place. We can go live to Oslo and Our Correspondent fair. --

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our correspondent there. Tell us what has been going on.

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It has been a terrible week. One of the main squares here in central

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Oslo has a building which is the headquarters of the governing

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Labour Party. It was there that one of the main commemorative events

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took place a few hours ago. It was the Labour Party which bore the

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brunt of both attacks, one week ago. It lost so many members of its

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youth wing who were holding a summer camp on the island of Utoeya,

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when Anders Behring Breivik arrived there and opened fire on that -- in

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a killing spree which killed almost 70 people. Today, we also had one

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of the first funerals of a teenager who was killed on Utoeya. The

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funeral took place just outside Oslo a few hours ago. The coffin

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containing the body of an 18-year- old victim was brought out from

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church to be laid to rest. Her family, originally from Iraq,

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mourning the loss of a daughter who had been a leading light in the

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Muslim community here. Exactly one week ago, the woman was shot dead

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along with more than 60 others attending a youth camp on the

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island of Utoeya. She had dreamt of becoming a politician. So many

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friends and relatives came to the funeral that hundreds had to to

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stand outside. She will be missed. The youth can use her as an example

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to go into politics or to follow their dreams, because she was well

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on her way to becoming a perfect, perfect human being. This is just

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the first of at least 76 funerals due to take place in the coming

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days. And while people mourn here, thousands have been taking part in

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memorials being held in the capital, Oslo.

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Members of the governing Labour Party gathered for an emotional

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reunion. The party, the target of both attacks last Friday, this

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summer camp on Utoeya had been for The Prime Minister it said many of

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their young people were now dead. But he said they would manage to go

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on, in unity. As they mourned, the police took the man responsible for

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the atrocity, Anders Behring Breivik, for a second round of

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questioning. But so far, they have not found any evidence that he was

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part of a network for extremists, as he claims. And so far, there is

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no sign his killing spree will deepen divisions in Norwegian

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society. Into day's funeral, Christians and Muslims, immigrants

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and ethnic Norwegians, side by side. It does remain the key issue - or

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whether Breivik did have a compasses or not. He said on Monday,

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during his first court appearance, that there were two other cells. --

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whether he had accomplices. But as we were hearing, at the police say

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that they have no evidence of this. But even while it remains unclear,

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the population here cannot fully relax. In particular, the Muslim

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community here will remain afraid. Richard was in Oslo a week after

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the tragedy there. I have been talking to the Norwegian born

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journalist Martin Sandbu, who works for the Financial Times in London.

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He says the country owes a duty to explain to those who lost family

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and friends how such a violent tragedy could have occurred.

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have a duty to try to understand and explain, and not just recoil in

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horror. Horror and morning are the right reaction, but also trying to

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understand what has happened. For two reasons - we need to understand

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it as best we can to try to avoid anything like this happening again.

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The other point is that, unfortunately, if you read this

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terrorist manifesto, which I have done and many people have done in

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the last week, you will find quite a few things that have not a few

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people will agree with, even though they abhor the conclusions he came

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to and the violence he committed. There are many people who will

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agree with smaller or larger parts of the General ante Islam or world-

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view he has. -- anti- Islamic world appeal. We have this idea of Norway

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as a perfect society which adheres to social democratic principles and

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is very open. I use saying that in reality, it is quite far from that?

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It depends on what we are talking about. There are high levels of

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trust in Scandinavian societies in general. There is certainly great

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support for democracy. But I think it is true that both Norwegians,

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and many people outside Norway, like to think that what is good is

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almost perfect. They are very good societies, good to live in. A rich

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and peaceful and so on. But there are some people with frustrations

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and people who do not necessarily like the democratic form of

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governance. I think it is true that some of those have felt that they

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can't express their frustrations, even if they are legitimate

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grievances, all legitimate differences, without being vilified.

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That is dangerous. What do you say to people who say that Norway has

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lost its innocence? I think Norway lost its innocence a long time ago.

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It has never been true that Norwegians have been unaware of

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violence in the world. It was occupied in World War II by Nazi

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Germany. That is still a big part of the national narrative. Even

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today, Norway is very active in Afghanistan and Libya. But there

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has been a conscious effort to depict in Norway as a nation of

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peace, so I think there has been an invented or chosen kind of

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innocence that has been shattered. Your criminal-justice system in

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Norway is such that 21 years is the maximum someone could get. It

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beggars belief that somebody like Breivik could only serve that

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amount of time in prison. What are the options? Although it looks like

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that on the face of it, it is more complicated. Norwegian law has

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recently incorporated a higher possible term of punishment for

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crimes against humanity. That would carry up to 30 years. There has

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been talk of trying to charge Breivik with the VAT charge. That

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might not be possible. -- with that charge. Even if he gets 21 years,

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there is a provision for keeping someone locked up for five years at

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a time if they are a continued danger to society, even after they

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have served their full term. In theory, it would be possible to

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keep him locked up for the rest of his life and I think that is the

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most likely thing to happen. Our other main story to date - a US

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debt. President Obama has told Congress, "we are running out of

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time". He was speaking as negotiations continued in

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Washington to try to agree a deal on raising the debt ceiling before

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the 2nd August deadline. Mr Obama says he is confident a bipartisan

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solution will be found. There are plenty of ways out of this mess,

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but we are almost out of time. We need to compromise by Tuesday so

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that our country will have the ability to pay its bills on time,

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as we always have. They include monthly security -- social security

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checks, veterans' benefits and government contracts with

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businesses. If we don't come to that, we could lose our country's

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credit rating. Not because we didn't have the capacity to pay our

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bills - we do - but because we did not have a political system to

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match. Let's go live to Washington and Our Correspondent Paul Adams.

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Is President Obama right when he says he is confident a bipartisan

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solution will be found? He needs to sound confident because

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not that many other people are. But this does tend to happen from time

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to time in Washington. Issues are so hotly-contested that it seems to

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go down to the wire. We seem to have a situation of finger-pointing

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and acrimony and somehow, out of nowhere, a deal is struck. The

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White House spokesman said, "we have to wait for that process to

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pay out -- played out before we can get focused on solving the problem".

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There is a recognition that a Bill will need to be passed possibly

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later today. It looks like it has a better chance of passing than it

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did yesterday. In the Senate, another measure will pass. The

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Senate is controlled by the Democrats. When the two houses have

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had their say, something will be cobbled together out of the two of

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them because there is some common ground in terms of the scope of

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cuts in government spending, which will save the day. But at a lot of

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politicking has to happen before then. Obama has been ratcheting up

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the rhetoric, saying it does not look good for America and it could

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lose its triple A credit rating. There is a lot of rhetoric all over

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the place and it may be that even if a deal is done, credit rating

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agencies will decide, finally, to downgrade the United States's

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rating anyway. There are some people who argue that should have

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happened a long time ago and that it is absurd to have a triple A

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credit rating at the moment. That is waiting to unfold, but you have

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voices from all over the place pointing to the absurdity of this.

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The head of the World Bank has said this morning that this would be an

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embarrassment for all Americans, if America's politicians could not

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cobbled together a deal. The markets start to look fairly

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jittery. If nothing happens over the weekend, we could start seeing

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a rather dramatic set of circumstances unfold.

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In Libya, tens of thousands of mourners have taken to the streets

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in the rebel stronghold of Benghazi to pay tribute to their General

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Abdel Fattah Younes. His death is likely to complicate matters for

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the rebels, just as they were getting more international backing.

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In the early months of this conflict, the front lines in

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eastern Libya were constantly shifting. One morning, the rebels'

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commander turned up, boosting morale and offering some

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desperately needed leadership. He was an important defector from

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Colonel Gaddafi's regime. The rebel fighters saw him as a beacon of

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hope on that day back in April. Their general's has it is important

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to us all, one of them said. It will give us a boost.

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Nearly 42 years ago, he had helped Colonel Gaddafi over through the

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Libyan monarchy in the coup of 1969. He became Gaddafi's interior

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minister and a close aide, but he switched sides when the uprising

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began in Benghazi this February, and came to the aid of the rebels

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in what was his home city. But last night in Benghazi, it was announced

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General Abdel Fattah Younes was shot before he was due to stand

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before a judicial committee. circumstances have yet to be fully

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explained. There is plenty of room and suspicion swilling around, but

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there are plenty of leaders insisting that his death will not

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throw the rebellion of course. have to hope that this is a blow

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today revolution, but it is not detrimental. It will make the

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revolution and the people of Libya much more determined to get rid of

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Colonel Gaddafi. Amid the chaos around places like this, there is

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still something of a military stalemate in Libya. But the killing

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of General Abdel Fattah Younes has come at a critical time. More

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countries, including Britain, have recognised the rebels as the sole

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governmental authority. They, in turn, need to prove that they do

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have the ability to run the country. Let's talk a bit more about this.

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Sabri Malek, a member of the Libyan Freedom and Democracy campaign is

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in the studio with me. Who do you think would want to see General

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Abdel Fattah Younes killed? This is a very good question. The Libyan

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people, right from the beginning, they did not trust General Abdel

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Fattah Younes. He worked for Colonel Gaddafi for 42 years. The

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very loyal, very faithful to him. This man happened to be at the

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wrong place at the wrong time, so he joined the revolutionaries. But

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the suspicions have always been there that he is working for

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Colonel Gaddafi and recently, as the rebels, the Freedom fighters,

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have established that. They arrested him, they tortured him and

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they killed him. So you are sure? You have information from inside

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the country? You claim that it was the rebels themselves he wanted to

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see their commander killed. OK. He was from a very powerful tribe and

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they will not be very happy. What are the implications of that?

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that is right. The problem is that the interim council is led by

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Colonel Gaddafi's men. This is a particular situation. You claim

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that, but they are former Ministers to work for Colonel Gaddafi. Could

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it inflame the situation? This could easily turn into a civil war.

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In Libya, there is fundamentalism, there is tribalism, there is

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political naivety. The whole world is taking advantage of us. Just

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give us your over all assessment in how you think the balance of power

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is going between Gaddafi and the rebels. Good Duffy knows for

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certain that he can not win this war or -- Colonel Gaddafi knows for

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certain. He has decided to leave Libya.

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You are claiming that. How do you know for sure? He is no longer head

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of state. He is a war lord and he of to good for terrorism as usual.

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He wants to continue with the war or because he knows that he cannot

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win otherwise. He imagines that because he has a

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lot of money, he will get the civil war in Libya. The West is not

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helping in any way. We have asked the West from day one but we want

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the United Nations to take charge in Libya. This has not happened. So

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you would like some kind of neutral interim power in Libya at the

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moment. So you claim that Colonel Gaddafi is across the border and is

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conducting his can pain from their We have not had such a verification

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on that, but thank you very much for your thoughts. Now some of the

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day's other developments. Tens of thousands have demonstrated --

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demonstrators have filled the square in the Egyptian capital of

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Cairo. In is the largest protests since

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the fall of their President. These demonstrations are different -

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Islamist leaders were the insulators for the first time since

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the revolution. -- instigators. In Syria, troops are reported to have

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fired on protesters and demonstrators were beaten up. Tens

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of thousands of Syrians have again turned up for protests by across

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the country, demanding that their President resign.

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The chief of the Turkish armed forces, along with their heads of

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the navy, air, ground forces have amounts of their stepping down for

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no posts. This rig -- follows growing

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tensions over the arrests of military personnel over alleged

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coup plots. The floods in Pakistan last year were the worst in the

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country's history. Torrents of water tore through villages and

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fields, destroying everything along the way.

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Almost 2000 people were killed and more than 1.5 million homes

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destroyed. 12 months on, at the start of the monsoon season, many

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families are still struggling with little help from the authorities.

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Our Correspondent has travelled to Charsadda in North West Pakistan -

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one of the worst-affected areas. The rainy season is just starting

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again. As harmless as the water looks, it is filled with dread.

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It brought back the memory of images like these from last year -

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some of the heaviest rains ever recorded weeks have a car across

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Pakistan. Nearly 20 million people were affected. -- wreaked havoc

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across Pakistan. This village was one of the first place as the flood

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struck. People here had no warning of the disaster that was coming

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their way. Villagers say a massive wall of water came through here

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from that direction and hit the village. It destroyed a lot of the

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houses and caused a lot of deaths. One year on, they still have not

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find all of the bodies. This woman did manage to find her two teenage

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daughters. But it took days. Their bodies had been carried more than

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three kilometres away by the force of the waters.

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Her family has been able to rebuild part of the House that was damaged,

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but she remains consumed by grief. TRANSLATION: My life was shattered.

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Without my two girls, it living has no meaning any more. In spite of a

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massive aid mobilisation, many are still living in tents. This man and

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his family lost their homes. In the desperation of saving

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themselves, they lost all their belongings. They have been trying

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to get their lives back ever since. TRANSLATION: The last aid we

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received was six months ago when we got some basic food rations. Since

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then, we have been relying on charity from local people. We there

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it is through their grief or their homelessness or the loss of

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livelihood, millions are still struggling to recover from last

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year's floods. That, the United Nations warns, makes them all the

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more vulnerable as the new monsoon season starts. Pakistan's flood

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victims one year on. Screen goddesses like Elizabeth Taylor, my

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only in a deep rich, and to Audrey Hepburn are some of the most

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glamorous women of the 20th century. -- Marlene Dietrich.

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Some rare photographs of their Hollywood days are on show. The

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show at the National Portrait Gallery has original stills from

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the movie studios themselves. Many of them have not been seen for

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decades. Elizabeth Taylor. Audrey Hepburn in funny face. And Rob

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Hobson in a love will come back. Icons not only of the Hollywood

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screen, but also of twentieth- century Western culture. These rare

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photos depict a time before the paparazzi. They were distributed by

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the studios themselves and were the only form of connection between

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stars and fans. One of by favourite shots in at the show is this one -

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the filming of Gone With the wind. It is not a glamorous image. It is

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a very dramatic moment. It shows her darker side. As she

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also appeared with that in a Streetcar Named Desire. Hollywood

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used these photos to publicise films they just sent to the market.

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They had to be strong enough to encapsulate the film plot on also

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good that you to go and watch the pictures.

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This photograph of Charlie Chaplin was from the set of the 1921 film,

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the kid. Here, the antics of Laurel and Hardy. The collection spans 40

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years from the 1920s to the 1960s. But the curators spent months

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sifting through 3,000 prints for the exhibition. These are the

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original photographs taken at the time. They are basically silver

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prints, and we have made some special platinum prints for the

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exhibition. Have photographs are looking the way the photographers

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wanted them to look. We're so used to seeing the celebrity images many

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generations from the original. It was easy to do because we were

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looking for the best photographs, not the celebrity faces. Of we find

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more often than not that the best subject took the best pictures. --

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also we find. I spoke to a friend of one of Hollywood's greatest

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directors, Alfred Hitchcock. There is it very special person pictured

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here that I knew best. I have never known somebody that I thought was a

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junior SVRs in my life. But Alfred Hitchcock was. He had

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such an original mind. -- a genius in my life. The images depict the

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way they were and underline that great maxim of movie history - that

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it was not the screens that got bigger, the stars just got smaller.

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A reminder of our main story - exactly one week after the bomb

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attack and massive shooting in Norway, hundreds of people have

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been attending a memorial service in Oslo to honour the 77 victims.

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The man who admitted carrying out the attacks, Jonathan Vass is being

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questioned by police for a second time. The funeral for the first of

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the victims is taking place. - Mike Anders Behring Breivik. The country

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you's debt crisis in America is an issue this weekend. Goodbye and

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For many of us today, it has been rather cloudy across southern area

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In the North, we have had some decent sunny spells around and

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tomorrow, there is a better chance of sunshine. It is looking fine as

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we head into the weekend. That is courtesy of high pressure. It is

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trying to keep this whether from today and it will last for the

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first part of the weekend at least. For Saturday in the south-west,

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still the remnants of the weather front we have had around today.

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Perhaps a little damp at first, but big skies will brighten. North and

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it looks like we will see some sunny spells developing. On the

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North Sea coast as the breeze comes in from the sea, it will be a

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little cooler. The southern counties will have a better chance

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of seeing the brightness. Those temperatures will climb into the

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low twenties. Across Wales, it will be pretty cloudy first thing on

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Saturday morning. Through the day, the cloud should break up,

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revealing that sunshine and temperatures climbing again into

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the low twenties. For Northern Ireland, similar weather to the

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last few days. Sunny spells, light winds and dry afternoon. A little

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cooler and cloudier on northern Scotland. Inland, for Glasgow, it

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