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This is BBC World News Today. The trial opens in Norway's worst crime

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in modern times. A far right salute, and an admission to killing 77

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people, but Anders Behring Breivik claims he's not guilty of murder.

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TRANSLATION: I acknowledge the acts but I do not plead guilty and I'll

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claim that I was doing it in self defence.

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Tears as his manifesto is read out in court, but no sign of remorse

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for the killings themselves. UN observers arrive in Syria, but

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just six of them. We have a special report from inside the northern

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province of Idlib where the guns are still firing.

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The way it's always been. America's choice of Jim Yong Kim is picked

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for the Presidency of the World Bank.

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Also coming up in the programme: Claims that a multi-billion dollar

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company is profiting from child workers. A BBC investigation

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uncovers evidence that children as young as ten are working in mines

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Welcome. There were tears but not apparently of remorse today from

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Anders Behring Breivik, the man accused of killing 77 people in

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Norway last July. Let's get the latest from Jon Sopel in Oslo.

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Thank you. Welcome to Oslo over proceedings have finished for the

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day. Tomorrow will be an uncomfortable day for Norwegians as

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Anders Behring Breivik takes to the stand and gives to estimate that

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could go on for four days. Today was not very comfortable with

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Anders Behring Breivik arriving in court, release from his handcuffs

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and giving an extreme right-wing salute as his opening. He sat

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impassively throughout a list of names being read out, killing them

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without any apparent feeling when he put bullet after a bulletin to

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those poor people on the island of Utoeya. He pleaded not guilty but

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he said that he was not responsible because he was acting in self-

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defence. Let's get this report now from our correspondent.

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The mastermind of Norway's suffering was a lead in with his

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hands in Hancock's. He seemed relaxed, eager. He always wanted

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the chance to present his views in public. He started with a salute to

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the far right. No remorse. For the first time in court, we heard the

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voice of the killer. TRANSLATION: I acknowledge these acts but they do

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not plead guilty, I will claim to have done it in self-defence.

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the first time, he shed a tear, but not, it seems, for his victims. The

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court was shown a video that he had made. The motion, most likely, for

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his own warped believes. -- emotion. He says the bomb that killed eight

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people in Oslo and his killing of 69 people on the island of Utoeya

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were the opening shots in a war, a war against multiculturalism.

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Against political parties that supported immigration. Each of the

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people murdered was named. Two shorts to the head, another in the

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back for money. Orders were hit as they tried to escape. -- others.

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This trial is being carefully managed, the most disturbing and

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sensitive evidence will be given only was the television cameras had

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been switched off. Anders Behring Breivik's appearances on camera

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will themselves be limited, so was not to give him a platform for his

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views. He says this amounts to courtroom Popper grander. --

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propaganda. There was access to the car that he drove to get to the

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island, the uniform that she was wearing on the island and his

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steady progress across the summer camp, each redstart, another death.

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And there was this telephone call Wenger, for just a few moments, his

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lawyer spoke and defended his client's rights to have his say in

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court. TRANSLATION: It would be difficult for the victims to hear

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him, but it is his right, and it would be the most important

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evidence in deciding if he is legally sane. Among the survivors

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in court was this woman. It is good to see him now when you're

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surrounded by police and in a safe place, because it gives a little

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bit of closure. Are you still afraid of them? No, because he

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would be locked up no matter what for the rest of his life. It would

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be a long process, and he takes the stand tomorrow.

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There is no question about whether Anders Behring Breivik did or did

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not commit the 77 murders last July, he said that he did, he admits that

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and he says that he wishes he had killed more people. The key

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question is if he is sane or insane? Mad or normal? I am joined

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by a psychiatrist, how do you charge if somebody is mad or not

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mad? This is a question of using the law, because there is one

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paragraph in the law. It is one paragraph that says that you are at

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the same, it means that you are not psychotic and if you're insane,

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then you are psychotic. Which you could easily argue that to kill

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that many young people in cold blood shows that you have to be

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mad! Yes, but not according to the law, because if you are mad

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according to the law, then you have to be psychotic, and that is

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different from being mad to as people think of mad. But it is very

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difficult for somebody to think that this is a legal definition,

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because we think that people judging if somebody is the same or

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insane at people like yourself, psychiatrists. Yes, but we have to

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follow the law because this is the question that has to be decided by

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the law courts. What would be you're key guide? How would you

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determined? I would have to see if he is a psychotic or unconscious as

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they say, and that he can understand what is the reality in

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this case, what is the reality of his relation to the people in

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general? Explained to us, there are two reports, one saying that he was

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mad or insane and the other that he was normal? Yes, it is very strange

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because we have not had this situation before at all, we have

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always had two people and be used to be agreeing with what they say,

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and sometimes they do not agree, so they have to report and the court

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needs to decide, and they take what this applies just say. But it must

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be very hard for the Norwegian people to accept when you have had

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one group of sight cries just saying that he is mad, he is a

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nutcase, and another group saying that he is normal. -- one group of

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psychiatrists. Yes, but it depends on how you read the law, actually.

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It is only a recommendation to the court. A final question about the

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people themselves, the people that have survived on Utoeya, they must

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have been going through terrible psychiatric difficulties after

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having witnessed something like that. I wonder what sort of

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problems they will be suffering? The victims, yes, but they will, of

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course, they will have all of these kinds of... They were new to death,

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they knew somebody that was killed, something like that, that is a very

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big strain for them. Now we're talking about the man that did this,

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which is different. OK. Thank you. As we had been hearing, Anders

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Behring Breivik takes to the stand tomorrow and his words will not be

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televised, but people will be able to report exactly what he says, and

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another very uncomfortable, difficult day for Norway, but now

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back to the studio. Thank you.

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The truce has been in place for five days and is still very fragile,

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but the later stage of the Syrian peace plan continued today with the

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arrival of international observers in Damascus. The advance party of

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just six members is setting up the mission in Syria and trying to

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liaise with both sides of the conflict, but with more fighting

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today in Homs and Idlib, what are the chances of an enduring truth?

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Access to journalists is restricted but our correspondent and his, man

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sent this report from inside the province of Idlib.

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This is meant to be a truce in Syria, in parts, it doesn't sound

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like it. At best, the clamour here feels uneasy. The ground remains

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highly dangerous. We moved with rebel fighters into a rehab, a

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northern town Fergie under the grip of President Assad. -- firmly. The

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Free Syrian Army relies on stealth and they knew this rich well, and

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to abandon flats the battles of the war here. But they were unable to

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resist the ferocious government offensive that swept through this

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region days ago. The international community talks of ceasefires and

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peace plans, but the view from the ground is very different.

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TRANSLATION: They are buying time. The Government lies to the people.

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It lies to the whole world, so it is not surprising that they lied to

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Kofi Annan also. They have not stop shooting. Down below, you can

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clearly see not all government forces have withdrawn. Every few

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minutes, there are short bursts of gunfire. We do not know which side

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his shooting, but whoever is responsible, it leaves the peace

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plan looking shaky. We're just overlooking the town which is

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pretty much a ghost city, and there is some traffic moving in the

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distance, but the Government is controlling this area. They have

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set up checkpoints and we can see a tank moving and in the last 60

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minutes we could hear the sound of gunfire. This is a few days after

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the ceasefire is known to have taken place. We sold government

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road blocks on the road into town, stopping and checking vehicles.

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They were looking for the man they call terrace, the soldiers of the

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rebel army. -- called terrorists. Perhaps the rebels had been beaten

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and bloodied but they have not bowed. And the fighters admit back

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in. The bypass roads and cities and they call the same mission to

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protect their homes and families. - - the call this mission. The

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struggle is about their future. The girls at the family may be young

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but they already know the language and the loss of the revolution.

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Last week, this area was under attack. But today, women and girls

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dare to leave their homes once again. They come back onto the

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streets with a call for change that perhaps is louder than ever.

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It is a mistake to think that all Syrians share their view, as some

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people see this as an Islamic threat, but if there is to be peace,

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it needs to be made in places like this and that does so much death,

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positions have only hardened. And fear is never far away. President

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Assad's army is slaughtering us, this man says. When Kofi Annan left

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last time, they attacked us, says this woman. She has no faith that

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the UN monitors will make the difference. After the bloodshed of

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the last few weeks, the truth is that these people have simply come

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too far and lost too much to give up now. In the words of one, we

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will carry on protesting until the last man is standing.

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Some of the other news, the Afghan President has said that deadly

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attacks by Taliban insurgents across Afghanistan on Sunday

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revealed a failure by the intelligence services are both the

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Afghan and NATO-led forces. The last of the insurgents that

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infiltrators Kabul and launched attacks on the Parliament, NATO Wed

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quarters and other embassies had been overpowered. We had been to

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one building where militants orchestrated the attack.

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This is the scene of one of the fiercest attacks on Kabul, this

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half-finished building which is one of the highest in the area are. It

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is a building that insurgents be used as a firing position to attack

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the nearby British and German embassies. The President is calling

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it a huge intelligence failure by both NATO and the Afghan security

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forces. But insurgents were in effect able to repeat the same

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tactics that be used to lay siege to the American embassy last year.

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Again, that was just a short distance away. Afghan security

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forces eventually brought things under control here and also at the

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Parliament and it was an Afghan lead operation and they have won

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praise in some quarters for doing much better than in the past, and

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yet, NATO back-up was still essential. Behind the scenes, and

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also, directly in the fighting. Sudan's Parliament has voted to

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declare south Sudan and enemy after troops captured the main while Phil

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last week. Last Tuesday's attack on the wide field has shut down

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production there. South Cezanne became independent last year after

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a civil war. A female model in Milan Segers paid personally by

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Silvio Berlusconi when she attended one of his bunga bunga parties.

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Imane Fadil senior arriving in a green jacket said he had seen two

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women dressed as nuns stripping off for Mr Berlusconi. He denies

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knowing that women at his parties were prostitutes wore a sleeping

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Two protesters have climbed onto the roof of the Bahraini em's in

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London. -- embassy in London. Activists say the authorities are

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withholding treatment from Hassan Mushaima.

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Fabrice Muamba has been discharged from hospital after having cardiac

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arrest during a game. He was left fighting for his life last month.

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In a statement, Muamba thanked the staff who took care of him.

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In the end, it went the way it always has done, the World Bank

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announcing in the last hour or so that its next President will be the

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US nominee Jim Yong Kim. The two remaining candidates were from

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Nigeria and America. The US has held the World Bank presscy since

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it was founded in 1944. This year there was real pressure to open up

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the job to outside competition. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala was Nigeria's

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candidate. She lost out to Jim Yong Kim, America's candidate. He's a

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leading figure in the global health. He's the current President of Ivy

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League Dartmouth College in New Hampshire. Uri Dadush has

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previously served as the World Bank's director of international

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trade and director of economic policy, and he joins us from

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Washington. Did the best candidate win? I personally don't think so.

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Dr Kim is certainly a remarkable individual, but Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala

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has broader development and economic policy experience as well

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as a deep knowledge of the organisation. So why didn't the

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best candidate win? Because it is not an open and competitive process.

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It is the subject of enormous amount of horse trading, much of

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which happens behind-the-scenes and is guided by the United States,

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which is the world's economic and military superpower. The irony is

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it was only last year when all 187 members said it would be an open,

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transparent decision. Yes, it is ironic. We went through something

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that looks like an open process, because differenting candidates

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were nominated and interviewed etc, but in practice, it remains a

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highly guided process. What are Mr Kim's faults then or failings for

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this job? And will it lead to problems within the World Bank in

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the future? I dofpbt have a critique of Dr Kim. He is a

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remarkable man, who has done quite a lot for development. I tried to

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compare the qualifications that you need to have broad based

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development institute like the World Bank and I find that the two

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other candidates that were put forward fit that job description

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much better than does Dr Kim. Now, that's my view. It happens to be a

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view of a lot of other development professionals, but you never know.

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I can only wish Dr Kim good luck in his very, very important job.

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just that Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala had the backing of the the Eeconomist,

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the New York Times a lot in the World Bank itself. Should she feel

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right to be aggrieved of this process. She didn't even get Russia

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backing her, when Russia perhaps as a developing nation, could have

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thrown its weight behind her. has an important job as Finance

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Minister and economics minister in nigh jeer ya. She's hardly going to

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be unemployed. I think she has done the world a service by accepting to

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be put forward and by fighting for the job. With respect, that wasn't

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quite the question was it. We interviewed her last week and she

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was very diplomat nick what she had to say. Should she feel aggrieved?

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This is another US block sich up, isn't it? I think she should feel

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aggrieved. I suspect she does feel aggrieved. Those of us who want

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this to be an open and competitive process and reflecting the

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realities of the world economy, where the developing countries are

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playing an absolutely fundamental role in driving growth and

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prosperity, feel bad about what has happened. We hope that by

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interdueinging -- introducing, supposedly introducing a more

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competitive process this time, at least there was a discussion, that

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we are setting the stage for opening up both the International

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Monetary Fund to a non-European and the World Bank to a non-American,

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whoever the best person might be. Do you think, though, that this is

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probably the last time this is going to happen, that they can't

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keep this monopoly going forever? hope so. I cannot tell you that I

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am certain of that. But I certainly hope. So I think it's going to be

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very important for the viability of these institutions to be seen as

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representative of the broader world. It is odd, isn't it, that you now

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have the new President of the World Bank appointed in a pretty

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untransparent sort of way, perhaps going round and lecturing African

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countries about democracy and transparency, when it comes to

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their own government bodies? Yes, yes. I agree. That's going to make

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it more difficult for Dr Kim. There is going to be a legitimacy issue

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right from the first day, but again, you know, people will rally around

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the new President. Should he feel embarrassed? I don't know if he

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should feel embarrassed, after ul, he was called to this job by the

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President of the United States, his leader. I'm sure that he sees it as

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doing the best he can to serve his country. Very good to speak to you.

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Thank you for joining us. A multibillion dollar commodity

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giant stands accused of juxping raw acid and profiting from children

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working in a copper mind in Democratic Republic of Congo. An

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investigation by BBC panorama found children as young as ten working in

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a mine. John Sweeney has this report.

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Have you heard of Glencore? It may not be a household name but

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it trades a tenth of the wheat that comes onto the world market, a

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quarter of barley and half of the copper wh. It was floated on the

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London Stock Exchange last year, five of its partners became

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billionaires. Chief executive -- the chief executive's stake is now

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worth �4 billion. He says it's an ethical business. We care about the

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environment, we care about the people. We care about all these

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issues in the environments in which we operate. But their copper

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refinery in the drk -- Democratic Republic of Congo tells a different

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story to. Reach the copper the rock is burnt with sulphuric acid, the

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result is an acid water fall. You can see the pollution. You can see

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how bad it looks, but you can't smell. It I promise you standing

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here it stinks to high heaven. This whole place stinks of acid.

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Glencore say the pollution started long before the company took over

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the refinery and it has now been stopped. Here's some water I took,

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would you like to wash your hands with it, Sir? I can see what it is.

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I can see it. Would you like to wash your hands with the water?

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I've seen it. I've been to that river. That's what has been dumped

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into the river for 50 years. So far the company has made no commitment

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to compensate the villagers for the acid this their water. That's not

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the only complaint they're facing in the Congo. This is Glencore's

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copper mining concession, the company closed the mine four years

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ago. Secret filming revealed hundreds of miners working on site,

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after a local firm started working there. Some of them were only

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Under interNational law it's illegal for anyone under 18 to work

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an a mine. Glencore says this is going on without its permission and

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that the mine has been taken over by freelance miners. After tracking

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lorries and paper work, panorama found strong evidence that some of

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the copper ended up in a Glencore smelter. If the material is

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arriving at Mupani, we are profiting from child labour. But I

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am, with the systems in place, I am sure, unless people can prove

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otherwise, how any material came other than our own material can be

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arriving at Mupani. If the material is arriving there, I have no idea

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how it can be getting there. Glencore is about to become even

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more powerful. It's announced plans for a merger with Xstrata another

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mining giant. Serious questions remain about how one of the world's

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most powerful companies puts ethics into practice.

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Our main news: Anders Behring Breivik, who has admitted killing

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77 people in two acts of terror in Oslo last July, has gone on trial.

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He formally pleaded not guilty for the twin attacks. He showed no

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emotion as the prosecuter described in graphic detail how the victims

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died. But he did cry when his own propaganda video was shown in

:26:45.:26:55.
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evidence. Hello there. For many of us today

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we had the sunshine, but it's all change for tonight and tomorrow's

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weather. There's a band of rain moving through, leaving behind

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plenty of heavy and blustery showers for much of the afternoon.

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It's all courtesy of this low. Weather fronts move in through the

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night. For tomorrow, they slowly clear their way eastwards. They are

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bumping into cold air across northern Scotland. Here we could

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see snow, particularly above higher ground. For the afternoon the

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showers are likely to be widespread. They could be heavy and thundery in

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a few places. Where we get sunshine in between the showers,

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temperatures for the south-east will climb to about 13 to 14. The

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wind's gusty as well. Taking the edge off the temperatures across

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south-west England, highs of 11 or 12. There's a high chance if you're

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heading out tomorrow afternoon you're likely to get caught in a

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downpour. Showers scattered across Wales. Temperatures 11 to 12. For

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Northern Ireland, we'll see a few showers with temperatures at nine

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to ten degrees. In Scotland it's fairly cloudy through the afternoon,

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still with this band of rain across northern areas. Again we could see

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snow across higher ground. Through the night then that band becomes

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quite suburn to clear northern Scotland. The showers tend to fade

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