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A small step in the peace process. Israel prepares to release 26

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Palestinian prisoners ahead of direct talks on Wednesday. The move

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has angered many in Israel. Demonstrators are gathering outside

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the jail from where the prisoners will be freed in the coming hours.

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was forced to take these bags in my luggage. The two British women

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arrested on suspicion of drug smuggling in Peru, claimed they had

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no idea they were carrying cocaine. Also coming up: We meet the couple

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who used Facebook to help them adopt a child. We'll discuss the ethics of

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And the Vivaldi classic then gets a Middle Eastern makeover. Nigel

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Kennedy teams up with the Palestinian Youth Orchestra for the

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A very warm welcome to the programme. Israeli authorities are

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preparing to release 26 Palestinian prisoners from jail, ahead of direct

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peace talks in Jerusalem on Wednesday. The inmates were all

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convicted of attacks carried out before 1993. Their release has

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angered many in Israel. Well, tonight a small group of

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demonstrators have gathered outside the jail from where the prisoners

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will be freed. But ahead of the talks, there is angst in the West

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Bank and Gaza, too. Palestinian negotiators have accused Israel of

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trying to sabotage negotiations by announcing new settlement

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construction. Kevin Connolly has more.

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Another new dawn in the search for peace between Israel and the

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Palestinians. But at this early stage, there isn't much warmth in

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the light. The two sides are agreeing to take a few small steps

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down a road they have travelled before. The Israelis and the

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Palestinians have taken on a dramatic step towards a just,

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lasting and comprehensive peace that is going to lift the lives of the

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people of the Middle East. The optimism that characterised

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earlier stages. Long process has largely disappeared. The talk these

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days is more of the danger of breakdown, than the hope of

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breakthrough. In the past, key political prisoners

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have been released. It is now doing the same thing again, on a much

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smaller scale. One of the men released back then - he was charged

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withrd reunited with her cub orderering the killing of an Israely

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informer - says it is a necessary step to build peace -- he was

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charged with the orderering the killing. TRANSLATION: Those who

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speak about real peace and coexistence should be ready to pay

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the price. I miss him very much. For the

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families of Israeli victims, the release re-opens old wounds.

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This man's brother was abducted by Palestinians when he was 18, died up

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and then stabbed to death. He says his killers should be freed only in

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exchange for a peace deal, not just for the start of peace talks.

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I think my parents they are - from the outside you can see they are

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alive, they are family, grandchildren and children but

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inside, the second it happened, they are dead. Don't let them go out.

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Don't let them educate another generation of terrorists.

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Please, I'm begging for our government - don't let them out.

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In disputed territories like Jerusalem, it is easier to see the

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problems than the opportunities. The long, grey wall here is Israel's

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barrier that separates it from the Palestinians. This week's talks will

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establish if the two sides have the will to overcome the issues that

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Well, we will be speaking to someone from the Palestinian Legislative

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Council in a few moments but let's cross over to other news now. Police

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in central Cairo have #2350ird tear gas to end clashes between -- fired

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tear gas to end clashes between supporters of the oust ousted

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president and residents. Demonstrators back backing Mohamed

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Morsi were protesting outside government buildings and tried to

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enter them. The two sides began throwing bottles at each other. As

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fears grow in Egypt that there might be more bloodshed, the country's

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Coptic Christians are dreading further backlash. Since the Muslim

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Brotherhood President, Mohamed Morsi was ousted, extremists have targeted

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Egypt's Christians holding them partly responsible. Coptic

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Christians make up around 10% of the population of Egypt. The Coptic

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Church say 103 Christians have been killed since January 20011. Their

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churches have been burned and individuals targeteded. Attacks

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include this one on Cairo Coptic Or the docks Cathedral in April. Our

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correspondent spoke to the distraught parents of a girl killed

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last week. She was just ten. This mother's life changed forever

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This mother's life changed forever last Tuesday. Her only child,

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ten-year-old Jessi was shot dead as she walked home from Church in

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Cairo. She says her daughter was just

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becoming a young woman and that she'll miss her calling her "mum."

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Phoebe and her husband, Egyptian Christians, believe Jessi was

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targeted because she was a crustian. -- Christian.

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-- Christian. SOBBING

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TRANSLATION: Jessi was everything to us. Her killers didn't know that

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Jessi was my life, my future. I Jessi was my life, my future. I

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lived for her. I'm it willing you in the West that your -- I'm telling

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you in the West that your taxes and Government aid go towards the

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problems here by funding the Islamist parties. Though Muslims and

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Christians stood together in Tahrir Square, radical Islamists have

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blamed Egypt's ancient Coptic Christian community for helping to

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move Mohamed Morsi from power and Jessi and others are paying the

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price. Coptic and other Christians make up 10% of Egypt's population,

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over 8 million people but are feeling increasingly vulnerable.

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Jessi was one of several Christians killed in the last few months and

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churches, homes and other properties have also been targeted. Many

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Christians have left already. Who is Isle messages written -- hostile

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messages written on the church walls where this church is luckier than

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some. Others have been burnt down in places like this. Up until now, we

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have every day sectarian problems, burning churches, killing people,

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killing just a small child. She was ten years' old. It is not only the

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Christians. It is everybody who receives this message of terror from

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the Muslim Brotherhood and all the Islamic counterparts. As Jessi's

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family and friends mourn her loss, many here hope and pray the current

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violence will end soon and that the darkness of sectarian strife will be

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lifted. Let's go back to our top story. We

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are expecting in the next few hours the release of 26 Palestinian

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prisoners from a prison in Israel. This is the scene live now, where

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preparations are being made. We can speak to Mustafa Barghouti, a member

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of the Palestinian Legislative Council and leader of the

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Palestinian National Initiative. He joins us from Ramallah. Thank you

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very much for your time. We are talking about the release of 26

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prisoners out of 104. Compared to what was happening in the 1990s, the

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figures are small. But in your opinion s this the right step

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towards starting up those peace towards starting up those peace

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talks? It's a very small step and it relates to a very sensitive issue.

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Of course, 26 families will be happy today but 4,800 other families will

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not be happy because their children and their brothers and fathers are

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still in jail and some have been there for more than 25 years. So, it

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is a very, very little step in comparison to what should happen.

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Let me remind you that these 26 people, out of the 104 that will be

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released, should have been released 20 years ago when the Oslo agreement

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was signed and they were left in prison and they have lost 20 years

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of their life. What about the Israeli families who are very

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unhappy, they see these people as criminals, as murders, in some

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cases? They speak about people who fell in a fight. But you can also

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call so many Israeli generals and soldiers as even worse criminals

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because the number of people killed by their hands is even bigger than

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this number. But that's not the issue. The issue is if you want to

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make peace, you have to close down that chapter and that means the

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release of the prisoners but also the release of 4,800 prisoners and

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also not to arrest more people. The problem is, that they would release

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26 but the total number of people arrested in this month alone is more

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than 100. The other problems, of course, are the continuation of

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settlement expansion which is undermining the very possibility of

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reaching an agreement. We want to see peace and we want the

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negotiations that lead to an end of the conflict and not interim and

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small deals that lead only to partial agreement. But, are you

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willing to overlook those settlements and the comments now

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that the tenders have been issued for further settlement buildings?

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Are you willing to overlook that in the hope of finding peace? How could

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we? Peace and settlements don't meet. The whole world, including

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Europe and the United States, is saying that settlements Rhyl legal

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and contradictive to international law. -- really illegal. Everybody

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knows that with each expansion of settlement, the possibility of a

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Palestinian state is being killed and that's the whole option of

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two-state solution, going to be awe is as nated by the growth of these

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settlements. -- assassinated. It is either peace of settlements.

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You cannot combine both. That's why it was a mistake n my opinion, to

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start negotiations on this fragile base, without first guaranteeing

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that Israel will immediately stop and suspend all settlement

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activities. If this Israeli government continues to build

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settlements, they will be undermining the very peace process

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that everybody was hoping for. I hope the United States and the

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international community will immediately exercise pressure on

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Israel to stop settlement expansion, if they want to save the peace

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process. Otherwise we will see a repetition of what happened in Ywe

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River and Camp David and a repetition of what happened in the

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negotiations of Oslo, another peace process that fails because of the

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Israeli expansionist policy. What about getting Hamas back to the

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negotiating table? Ultimately their charter is the destruction of

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Israel. With those kind of beliefs, it's very difficult to see how they

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can be brought forward to any kind can be brought forward to any kind

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of peace solution? A wise approach would be to support Palestinian

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effortsed to bring back unity -- efforts, and have a unified

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Palestinian leadership and to bring back the democracy that was lost

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because of the internal division. We all know and understand that the

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best peace that can survive and can be durable is the one between

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democracies. Of course, today we have a divided Palestinian camp.

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Unfortunately, many countries, including the United States, are

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opposing the possibility of unity between Palestinians. I think unity

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will help the progress towards peace and not the opposite. There is

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already an agreement, which was signed in Cairo more than two years

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ago, which says that Palestinians accept two-state solution. All of

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them, including Hamas. The issue here is how to have a unified

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Palestinian camp that uses democracy as an organiser of its internal

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relationships and thus have a unified Palestinian position. I

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think this would be conducive to peace. But unfortunately, some

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people who want a peace process, want also to keep the Palestinian

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internal division, including Israel which keeps saying we should keep

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the Palestinians divided so they can stay week. What Israel and the world

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needs is a strong Palestinian camp so we can have a strong peace.

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Unfortunately peace will not happen as long as Israel continues to build

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settlements. I apologise in advance for interrupting you. We are out of

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time. We have to leave it there. Thank you very much for sharing your

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Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts with us. We'll continue to

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monitor the release of the monitor the release of the

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suspicion of drug smuggling in Peru, say they were forced to carry

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cocaine discovered in their luggage. Michaella Connolly from Belfast and

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Melissa Reid from Glasgow, were stopped and leave more last Tuesday.

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Police say they were carrying drugs worth more than $2 million.

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Appearing fairly calm considering their plight, this was Michaella

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Connolly and Melissa Reid being questioned on arrest in Lima

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airport. What is your name? Michaella Connolly. What is your

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nationality? Irish. But the next and is by Miss Reid makes it clear she

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is aware how serious the situation is. I was forced to take these bags

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in my luggage. You know it contained drugs? No. These are the banks that

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police claim were found in the women's luggage. It is alleged they

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contain a total of more than 11 kilos of cocaine, with a street

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value of �1.5 million. As far as their friends and family were aware,

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the peer had been spending the summer working in a beta. They had

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not been heard from since the 27th of July. Last Tuesday they were

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arrested as they try to check in for a flight from Lima back to Spain.

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Peru has become the biggest exporter of cocaine in the world offering

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rich pickings for would-be smugglers. As authorities are making

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a huge effort to wrest the tide. Even before these arrests there was

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concern here about the extent of drugs more going in Peru. There are

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currently more than 30 nationals -- British National is in jail there

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for that offence. I was found with one kilo of cocaine in my stomach.

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This video was made specifically to warn of the potential dangers.

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arrested with 1.9 kilos of cocaine. I regret the day I said yes to the

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supplier. Today Melissa Reid's father said there was no way has not

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would get involved in smuggling drugs. The family -- family of

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Michaella Connolly said the work distressed but few she will be

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exonerated. The two women will make their first court appearance

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tomorrow. The leader of Nigeria's militant

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Islamist group Boko Haram denies the killing of 44 people at a mosque on

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Sunday. Abubakar sheik who blamed the attacks on Nigeria's security

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forces. -- Abubakar Shekhar. Is there limits to how we use social

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media? A new trend appears to be emerging in the United States, where

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would-be adopters are turning to Facebook to try and find a child.

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Jane O'Brien has been to me one couple who used it to make initial

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contact with a pregnant woman. Afterwards they drew up a legal

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contract with the local adoption agency. We will talk about the

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ethics of this in just a moment, but here is the story of how one little

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boy was adopted. The two Brads and their son Tyler.

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This is Tyler's mother. They met on Facebook. We created an ad that

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appeared on the page of friends of friends. Six are sad and we put that

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on Facebook, Tyler's mother contacted us. We e-mailed back and

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forth and that led to phone calls. That also led to Skype chats with

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her. After a few months, she was seven or eight months pregnant at

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the time, she decided that this was what she wanted to do and we moved

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forward. Once the decision was made, a licensed adoption agency drew up a

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legal contract. But social media is changing the way parents of children

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connect. We have friends who are in the adoption process as well and

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they are doing the exact same things. They have their own website

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setup, the Facebook, Twitter, to show the world they are open to

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adopting and looking for a family. Technology is also crucial in

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helping Tyler forge a relationship with his mother who are several

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hundred miles away. Tyler lives and another state, I have been able to

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be involved in his life through technology. Tyler does not know any

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different. He has been growing at seeing videos of himself, pictures

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of himself, the iPhone and the iPad. It kind of is his world right

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now. The Brads share almost everything through social media,

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even the disappointments. Two mothers change their mind about

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releasing their children at the last minute but the Brads online

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community help the couple recover. We were in the process where we had

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to field adoptions. When we found out the news, the tragedy of both

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were they did not end up coming home with us. It was part of healing,

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too. It is not for everybody. Others would not do that we, they would be

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more private and that is completely fine. We are choosing to be a little

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bit more open some people have a better understanding of adoption

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son Tyler. With us to talk about the ethics of this is a lean Devon from

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the British Association for Adoption thinking of adoption, there is a lot

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of things to think about. They get the opportunity to meet with a

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social worker to think through what the implications of adoption are

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going to be for them and for their child. They are supported through

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the pregnancy to the point where the child is born and then they have

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continued support in making decisions that point about whether

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they are sure adoption is what they want to do. If it is then we would

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support them thinking about how much contact me want, how often they want

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to hear about the child and later life. I think it is important there

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are those systems around four people because adoption as a lifetime a

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dish -- commitment to all of those involved. We had the woman is they

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are saying that she was actively encouraging the couple to use social

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media. Is that not something that could be encouraged? Interestingly

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what we are doing in the UK, we are looking at using online websites to

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advertise some of the children who we find harder to place for

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adoption. So we would profile children who are needing to be

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adopted. Often that is an important start. But it is... I suppose the

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vetting process four people in Boldon adoption, we would expect to

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have through a social worker. So adopters are prepared for all

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possible things that might happen along the way, before they are

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linked up with particular children. We saw with the two Brads, the twice

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had a child... The mother changed their mind. It shows how difficult

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the decision is. In the UK, four people who had children and mothers

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placing children for adoption, they cannot give consent to that adoption

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until six weeks after the child is born. That is a difficult time, a

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lot of emotions. People need to think about the long-term

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implications as well as the short-term ones. Thank you very much

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for coming in to share that. It is prom season here in the UK -

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the summer classical music festival at London's Royal Albert Hall. This

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year the world-famous violinist Nigel Kennedy has returned with

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Vivaldi's Four Seasons, and he is accompanied by a user artist from

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the Palestinian territories. Wissam Sayegh of BBC Arabic met the

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musicians and Nigel at one of their rehearsals.

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This masterpiece is known to millions around the world. But here

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it has been given very different musical dialogue between East and

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perspective on Western classical music, at the same time as still

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having contact with the roots from music of their forefathers which is

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so wonderful to hear. I am giving space for some of the kids to play

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their own music as well as the classical format, to show what is a

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call -- you to call Saul these musical -- classical music festival

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in the world. The aim is to give a platform to these news issues from

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the Palestinian territories. This is the first time the Palestinian

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string orchestra will perform live in front of an audience the size,

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not to mention the millions watching at home and online. To participate

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in the Proms is an amazing experience. It gives even Palestine

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a boost. We are showing people that we are not like what they think we

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are. It is an opportunity for us to perform in front of people. It

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builds a connection between us and it helps them to see what is

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happening in Palestine and what the music is that we play. This

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orchestra was formed two years ago. We are bringing something very

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positive up from Palestine. We are seeing this as Palestine, these are

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young Palestinians. We have something wonderful to share with

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you. Nigel Kennedy's unique ambition is opening up new doors for these

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musicians and breathing fresh life Great stuff. A reminder of our main

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story: Israel is set to release 26 Palestinian prisoners in the coming

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hours ahead of direct peace talks. Tomorrow we will continue to monitor

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that and all of the day's news. From of us again tonight will get a

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chance to catch clips of those shooting stars. An eastern parts of

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the UK there will be some clear spells. The clouds are increasing

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and in fact some areas will not get any clear whether this night. That

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is across western parts of the UK. These areas will be cloudy through

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the course of the night and tomorrow that is how it will be as well. The

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East will have the best of the weather. In some areas up to 25

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degrees. The further west you go, the further south west you go, you

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get under that cloud, drips and drafts of rain, some mist around the

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coast as well and the hills. Despite that, the temperatures in one or two

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sports hovering around 20 degrees. It is a humid air mass that is

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heading our way in this direction and it will be here to stay for the

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next couple of days or so. There is a big difference between the Western

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