18/10/2013 World News Today

This is BBC World News. One month after that deadly siege in Nairobi

shopping mall, detectives discovered two more bodies, believed to be

gunmen responsible for the attack. One of the men suspected of carrying

out last month's attack on a shopping centre in Kenya has been

identified as a Norwegian national. Protection from police. A group of

leading British Muslims are threatened for attacking a video by

Al-Shabab. We hear from one of those targeted. Also, the battle to

contain one of the worst wildfires in a decade in the Australian state

of New South Wales. And the ancient skull found in Georgia that is

prompting a rethink on our early evolution.

Four weeks after gunmen stormed the Westgate shopping mall in Nairobi,

new details are emerging as to who was behind the attack which killed

at least 65 people. The BBC has learned that one of the suspect has

been identified as Hassan Dhuhulow, a Norwegian National of Somali

origin. He was recognised in CCTV images, which show him, along with

three other gunmen, roaming the shopping centre with guns. As the

investigation continues in Nairobi, another three bodies were pulled

from a burnt out section of the shopping centre. We've been told it

is highly likely they are the remains of two attackers, while the

third is a Kenyan soldier. The moment of sheer terror, when the

gunmen strolled into the Westgate Maule, firing at shoppers. Men,

women and children running for their lives down the aisles of this

supermarket, hiding wherever they thought they'd be safe. Here, one of

the gunmen calmly shoots a man. Another gunman returns to fire a

second shot. Traces of bullets can be seen as shoppers cower for

safety. Intense fear can be seen on the face is caught up in the havoc.

Even injure children are taken away at gunpoint to be held hostage. As

they meted out their terror, the gunman appeared totally composed.

They also took time to lay down their guns, when it was time for

Moslem prayers. Part of the building collapsed during the siege, in which

at least 67 people were killed. Even now, almost four weeks on, charred

bodies are still being found will stop the BBC has learned that during

the past 24 hours, three bodies have been pulled out from under the

rubble. The MP who heads the committee investigating the Westgate

attack told me that two of the bodies were highly likely to be

those of the gunmen. The third, he said, was probably that of a Kenyan

soldier. Investigators believe that one of the gunman was Hassan Abdi

Dhuhulow, a 23 a-macro man whose family fled Somalia's conflict in

1999 and settled in Norway. A BBC investigation found out that after

becoming radicalised, like other jihadiss, he returned to Africa to

join the Somali militant group, Al-Shabab. It is not surprising that

someone who lived in the West took part in the Nairobi attack. Now you

are seeing that people from different nationalities are joining

Al-Shabab. These are migrants, people who have left Somalia, going

to the west, some going to America. But now you see them coming back and

joining Al-Shabab, to wage their war against Kenya and other nations The

Kenyan government said between ten to 15 government were inside the

Westgate shopping mall when it was under siege. TV footage so far has

only shown four men. It's still not clear how many were killed and how

many escaped. We are joined on the line by an officer with Norway's

Security Service. Can you confirm for us that one of those suspects in

that Nairobi attack was indeed a Norwegian of Somali origin? Yes

that is correct, based on information we had about a week

ago. That is the reason for opening up an investigation. Are you

actively involved in an investigation that is going on now

in Nairobi? We have our own investigation case, trying to find

out if there was a Norwegian involved in the attack. But during

the investigation, we also cooperate with several police and security

services in other countries. What would be the implications of all of

this, the fact that one of the suspects is a Norwegian of Somali

origin, for your counterterrorism strategy in Norway? That is a little

hard to line out right now. As far as I know, it will be the first

major terror attack with a Norwegian involved ever. It will open up a new

era for us. What kind of reaction has there been to this news in

Norway, both in the security forces and just in the wider public? This

is a top story in Norway. It has been for about a week now. Regarding

the Security Service, it is hard to say that we are surprised. We have

seen a development now for the past two or three years, with more and

more people leaving Norway to join different groups in different

conflict areas around the world That is one of our great concerns

for the moment. It has been for the past couple of years. But you must

also be concerned in the Norwegian authorities that you don't want to

in any way see a backlash against the Norwegians Somali community

Terrorism is a crime. I don't believe that this will affect the

quite big Somali population in Norway. I think the majority of

Somalis and other immigrant groups in Norway consider terrorism to be a

crime, just as we do. In the UK a number of British Muslims who spoken

out against extremism are being protected by the police come amid

concerns about their safety. They've been warned they could be targeted

by members of the Somali group, Al-Shabab, after they were named in

a video which encourages others to carry out attacks against them in

a video which encourages others to the UK will stop in a moment, we

will hearing from one of those targeted. First, June Kelly has

more. Those who'd been at Friday prayers at one central London mosque

today heard the message that terrorism has no place in Islam The

Imam here preached that as a direct response to the news that he has

criticised in the video -based - juiced by the Somali-based terrorist

group, Al-Shabab. He's been visited by the police because of concerns

for his safety, but he is defiant. I'm not worried about this death

threat. I'm going to continue with my work, speaking against extremism

and terrorism. I will speak for justice and fairness for everybody

in the world. The Al-Shabab video focuses on Islamist attacks and the

people who have spoken out against them. The Imam, here on the left, is

one of a number of leaders criticised. Also depicted as a

traitor to Islam is Mohammed Ansar, a film-maker and journalist.

Mohammed Ansar has recently been filming this BBC documentary with

the now former leader of the far-right English Defence League,

Tommy Robinson. Tommy Robinson also appears in the Al-Shabab video. And

now both these men have been told there is a threat to their safety.

So what precautions has the film-maker put in place? We have had

security people round, we've had lots of briefings. We've had to

change locks, reinforced the security, we've had a police car

stationed at our premises and have regular patrols checking in on us.

We do take it seriously. In the propaganda video, a masked man

speaks about jihadiss who have trouble from the UK to Somalia to

fight with Al-Shabab. They were accompanied by many from London

Liverpool, Cardiff, Bristol and Birmingham. Al-Shabab have not

brought their fight to the UK. But the individuals he seen as targets,

the threat they pose is being felt by some in this country. As you

heard and just saw in the report, one of those targeted is an imam who

is a Bangladeshi born Briton, who, as well as being an imam in London,

is broadcast on TV channels across the UK, including the Islam Channel.

He gave us his reaction to being named as a target by Al-Shabab. I

don't know whether I was angry, upset or frightened. I wasn't

frightened, for sure. I was worried about how Al-Shabab had brought down

its fight to the streets of London. In other words, they were targeting

individuals as well as they were making people like me a legitimate

target for the hate propaganda. I was angry at the fact that such

lunatics were hijacking Islam, maligning the face and putting all

of us at risk. Most importantly destroying any prospect for

stability and peace in the future for Somalia. I was very upset that a

young Muslim from Britain was actually in Somalia doing that nasty

work. It sounds like this threat to you is in no way going to act as a

deterrent to prevent you from speaking out against extremism in

the future. It's going to keep me constantly busy. Louder and clearer.

I will be more vociferous in my condemnation, in my articulation of

saying that Islam is about peace, stability, moderation. Either you

are in it or out, there is no halfway house. Those who have done

or perpetrate such terrible crimes, threats or attacks against people,

they attack Islam and the Muslims as well as the civilised world. I will

keep at it. It is not going to frighten me or silence me. It is

going to make me more vigorous in my work. Have the police said they will

give you any protection? They did ask but I said I don't want any

personal protection at this stage. I don't see why I should change my

life. One choices you hide after a threat and hope for the best, all

you go and take it on. I wish to fight on. What about your family,

are you putting them at risk? No, my family is very supportive of me We

believe there is a message here I'm British, I Muslim, we are all

together in this and we have to fight it together. I believe British

people, as well as Muslims and non-Muslims altogether, I've been

receiving endorsement and support from all walks of life throughout

the day. Most members of the Dyas broke Muslim communities condemn any

kind of islands or any acts of terror. However, give us an outline

of how jihad -- had as defined sympathisers all over the world I

think they do feed on the double standard from the government when it

comes to foreign policies. On one hand they sleep with dictators, on

the other hand they preach to the wild democracy. They orchestrate war

in countries. Young people do find frustration and anger in it, but

that's not a licence for people to carry out violence and extreme

activities. There are lots of issues, but grievances don't give

licence for anybody to break the law or take the law into their own

hands, as well as perpetrate crimes. I gave a sermon today at my mosque.

100% of the people who came were in support of what I said. They've all

said, you know what, enough is enough, no more in our name. We

would like to tell the terrorists that this is not Islamic. We will

fight on until terrorism and any extremism that is in our communities

is completely eradicated. Let's bring you some news now that is

breaking from the United States President Obama has nominated Jay

Johnson as the new head of the US Homeland Security Department. If

confirmed, J Johnson will replace the former secretary, Janet

polytunnel, who stepped down in September. During his time at the

Pentagon, J Johnson worked with the defence Department. A leading member

of the African-American community will be the new homeland security

secretary. Police in India have arrested the crew of US owned ship

on charges of illegally transporting and ammunition. The seamen guard

Ohio was intercepted last Saturday. Officials say eight crew members and

75 security guards, including six British national, have been

detained. On land and under arrest. Indian police take almost three

dozen men into custody in the southeastern state of Tamil Nadu.

Eight crew members and 25 security guards were arrested. They were all

on board a US owned ship, and now they face charges of illegally

transporting weapons and ammunition in India's coastal waters. The

vessel was stopped by a coastguard, relating to the presence of arms,

ammunition and armed guards on board, without the necessary

authorisation. The ship was intercepted by Indian authorities at

the weekend. On board, as well as the security guards, police found

weapons and ammunition. The ship's owner said it was an armed escort

for merchant ships against pirates in the Indian Ocean, and that it

only entered Indian waters to shelter from a recent cyclone. The

arrests reflect India's sensitivity of armed merchant vessels.

Leicester, Italian marines protecting a cargo ship shot dead

two fishermen. They facing trial. In France, schoolchildren have again

turned out in the streets in protest over the expulsion of an immigrant

teenager and her family. Police used tear gas to disperse the protesters.

It follows the deportation of a 15-year-old girl, taken by police

from her school field trip and deported to Kosovo with her family.

The second day of a growing student revolt against a Socialist

government. Last year, young people flocked to the square to celebrate

the President's election, today before battles with police,

demanding the resignation of his Interior Minister. They accuse him

of betraying Socialist values. At the centre of it is 15-year-old

Leonarda Dibrani, of Roma dissent. Last week while on a school trip she

was arrested on the bus in front of classmates and returned the same

date to her father's native Kosovo. This is not my home, she said. My

home is France. That is where we family live, where my teachers

live. I do not have anything in Kosovo. Those who irritated some 45

schools in Paris today say it is not the law they oppose, it is the blunt

manner in which it is being applied. To stop her in the middle of her

studies, she is 15, she is in our country. In mind of the student

demonstrations in the 19 sixes, this kind of protest is hugely symbolic.

If you look at the service, 70% of French people side with the hardline

approach of the Interior Minister. It calls for the upcoming municipal

elections, it is the far right party who lead the way. Which perhaps

explains why it is Manuel Valls out in front, taking fire from his own

party, while Francois Hollande is conspicuously absent from the

debate. The debate has called for a review of Leonarda's case. The

outcome is unlikely to heal the splits.

Protests in Paris. Now, they are the worst bushfires for ten years in

Australia's state of New South Wales. Firefighters have witnessed

flames ready to 30 metres high, the smoke was even seen over the

landmark of Sydney Harbour Bridge. It blanketed the city skyline.

Nearly 100 wildfires have raged in the country's most populous state,

and many are still burning. Many of the worst affected areas are in the

Blue Mountains, 70 kilometres west of Sydney. From there, our

correspondent reports. For a second day, much of New South

Wales continued to burn. These are being called the worst of fires the

state has seen for a decade. -- bushfires. Over 2000 firefighters

battling to bring them under control for stop some, the damage has

already been done. This is all that is left of some of the homes in a

small community of Springwood in the Blue Mountains. This is one of the

worst affected areas for fire, swept up through the bush which surrounds

this small committee in probably a matter of minutes. -- small

community. For the families who live here, they have been left with

pretty much nothing. I heard my next-door neighbour get out, get the

dog and a few items. Two doors down, and expulsion, a gas cylinder,

possibly. -- an explosion. It came up pretty quick. My neighbour told

me to get out. I had the cats in the car and I couldn't find my keys I

left my front door open. It is a bit devastating, but it is all insured.

We are all here, that is the main thing. Is still a pretty major

operation going on here to try and put out the fires. We have relays of

helicopters, coming in, sucking up water, they are going to dump that

on the fires a few kilometres to the right of where I am standing. The

firefighters have a bit of a window today, Ted Rogers have dropped, the

winds are less strong and they're trying to get as many of these fires

out before the weekend, when the temperatures are forecast to rise

again. -- temperatures have dropped. I still has seen bigger fires than

these, but the fact they have come so early this year, it is still

spring here, means there are fears of a difficult and dangerous summer

to come. Saudi Arabia has refused to take up

its seat on the UN Security Council, despite being elected as one of the

council's ten nonpermanent members. Saudi Arabia says the body as double

standards and is incapable of resolving world conflicts.

Let's take you back a bit in time, 1.8 million years ago, in fact.

Scientists are saying that the skull discovered in Georgia suggests that

early humans were a single species. And that would mean rethinking our

understanding of human evolution. Researchers say the skull shares

characteristics with early human fossils found in Africa, like a

small brain case, large teeth and a long face. Other scientists say

there is insufficient evidence to abandon the theory that at least

three distinct species of human coexisted at that time. I have been

joined by evolutionary biologist Fred Spoor. Someone who knows a

great deal about this kind of thing. Long face, big teeth, anyway, you

have come in with these three specimens, please tell me they are

not real. They are not. They are replicas. I am guessing you do not

believe in this one... These are the three skulls that represent the

three species that we think left in Eastern Africa at the same time

more or less in that area. -- we think left. -- lived. You are

sticking to what you believe. The discovery of this skull is not

impressing new coup the discovery is extremely impressive, it is the most

complete specimen found from that area. The indication that they make

from some analysis that these skulls should all be included in one single

species, I think that is certainly not proven yet. The evidence is

weak. These three skulls are the kind of free stands of how humans

evolve and developed. -- three strands. They are slightly different

sizes. This is the ugliest one, that was probably ancestral to this one.

This is the same home practice, the seams PCs as the ones you get in

Georgia. So the one like this is the one that was found. You can see the

well-developed brow ridges. And it is a longer skull. Not so round at

the back. Completely opposite is this skull, a very famous one, found

in the 1970s. We know it by the name 1470. It has this very flat,

distinctly flat face. It is the opposite. We do not think this is an

ancestor of humans, it is a sideline. She went ancestor is often

behave like any other mammal, not species developed, side-by-side So

this is the ancestor of humans. Homo sapiens eventually evolved from home

or directors. So it does not overturn our theory of how we

evolved. I am afraid not. No to some research on some of the

youngest humans on our planet currently. Researchers at the

University of London launched a survey of what makes babies laugh

and smile. He is not even four months old, but

Dominic cannot help but laugh at his dad, who's tearing up uses of paper.

So, what did Dominic's chuckles tell us about the infant brain?

Researchers at the Babylab at Birkbeck College are studying the

laughter of babies to learn more about how our understanding of the

world develops during those first few months. Dr Caspar Addyman

launched an online survey, which has so far been completed by more than

600 people all around the world He thinks what babies laugh at can tell

us a lot about what we understand. Laughter and smiles start incredibly

early in life, which makes us think that laughter is a form of

communication for stop that it is a way a mother and baby can

communicate with each other well before the language of years.

Christina and Will are some of the parents who filled in the survey.

Charlie and Lois are seven months old. Even though they are twins

they laugh at different things. The first time lowest smile, there were

five weeks old. We put them together in the Moses basket and they saw

each other. And they really had a big smile on their faces. Lois is

very smiley, she smiles with her eyes as well. Charlie is a bit more

serious, but he will get there. He will have a little chuckle. They

also laugh when you play peek-a boo. They really giggle. Across all ages

and in all countries surveyed, people are amused by the most

favourite games. The best, nation of all the best things about laughter.

It is the surprise, it is a nice surprise, mummy has gone away, now

she has come back. Suddenly, -- certainly, it is very sociable. The

doctor is still analysing the results, but it is clear that

developing a sense of humour is part of growing up.

Those babies, especially those twins, were so cute. Let's remind

you of the main news. One of the men suspected of carrying

out last month's attack on a shopping centre in Kenya has been

identified as a Norwegian national. In a separate element, two new

bodies pulled from the rubble are believed to be those of attackers.

That's all from World News Today. Next it is the weather. From the,

Zeinab Badawi, and the rest of the team, goodbye and enjoy your

weekend. Good evening. There will be some

sunshine this weekend, but you might have to look hard for it. There will

also be some lustre and showers even some longer spells of rain If

you dodge the downpours, there is some warm sunshine to come. Low

pressure in charge at the moment. Do not expect that to change very much.

An active set of weather funds and in some pretty heavy rain. That

rainbow push north, setting him across Scotland. Then slowly moving

across Scotland during the day. Some persistent rain across parts of the