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This is BBC World News Today with me, Zeinab Badawi. Two days before | :00:00. | :00:11. | |
the referendum in Crimea that could see the region breakaway from | :00:12. | :00:14. | |
Ukraine and re-join Russia, Moscow ignores US calls for it to respect | :00:15. | :00:20. | |
Ukraine's territorial integrity. A handshake but no common vision on | :00:21. | :00:23. | |
Ukraine, says Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov during talks | :00:24. | :00:25. | |
in London with his American counterpart. | :00:26. | :00:33. | |
We do not have a common vision of the situation. The differences are | :00:34. | :00:35. | |
there, but the dialogue was definitely constructive. | :00:36. | :00:49. | |
We believe the referendum is contrary to the constitution of | :00:50. | :00:52. | |
Ukraine, is contrary to international law, is in violation | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
of that law and we believe it is illegitimate. | :00:56. | :00:57. | |
We're marking the third aniversary of the start of the conflict in | :00:58. | :01:01. | |
Syria. We ask what hope is there of a diplomatic solution with the | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
different sides showing little appetite for compromise. | :01:05. | :01:06. | |
An automatic signal from the missing Malaysian airliner suggests it flew | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
on for five hours after air traffic control lost contact with it. | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
And remembering one of Britain's political giants: Tony Benn - | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
towering figure of the radical left - has died. | :01:16. | :01:28. | |
Hello and welcome. The Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei | :01:29. | :01:37. | |
Lavrov, and the US Secretary of State, John Kerry, had six hours of | :01:38. | :01:41. | |
talks today on Ukraine - including a walk together in the sun in the | :01:42. | :01:44. | |
grounds of the US ambassador's residence in London. But even with | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
the threat of extensive US and EU sanctions hanging over it, Moscow | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
was not budging on its support for the referendum on Sunday in Crimea, | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
which will allow the region to break away from Ukraine. Washington says | :01:56. | :02:01. | |
it is regrettable that Russia has chosen not to de-escalate tensions | :02:02. | :02:03. | |
in Crimea. An intensive six hours of talks in | :02:04. | :02:19. | |
the sunshine of the US Ambassador's London garden. At stake, the future | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
of relations between the West and Russia. At the end of it, no | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
narrowing of the gap over Ukraine's future. The urgency is the | :02:28. | :02:34. | |
referendum planned for Sunday in Crimea. The region could either | :02:35. | :02:39. | |
break away from Ukraine even opt to join Russia. People in the West are | :02:40. | :02:45. | |
saying this would be illegal and a violation of Ukrainian sovereignty. | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
With preparations under way, there seems little chance of it being | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
called off. John Kerry flew to London for one last attempt. And to | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
warn his Russian counterpart that if Crimea is effectively annexed by | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
Russia, there will be serious consequences. We believe that the | :03:02. | :03:10. | |
decision to put for word this by Russia and to ratify the boat, this | :03:11. | :03:16. | |
would be a back door annexation of Crimea and would be against | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
international law. Sergei Lavrov said that | :03:21. | :03:23. | |
disagreements remain and indicated that if Crimea votes to join Russia | :03:24. | :03:34. | |
in Moscow will not stand in its way. Do you expect Crimea to become | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
independent or to become part of the Russian Federation? TRANSLATION: As | :03:39. | :03:45. | |
for the referendum, I and President Putin have said that we will respect | :03:46. | :03:49. | |
the choice of the Crimean people and will make clear our position once | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
the outcome of the referendum is known. | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
It is clear that these last-ditch talks have gotten nowhere and | :03:57. | :03:59. | |
there's nothing that the West can do if the Russians because of Crimea | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
were to break away and join Russia. The stage is set for new western | :04:04. | :04:06. | |
sanctions against Russia next week and a deterioration further | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
East-West relations. Who knows what the consequences will be? And, | :04:11. | :04:20. | |
immediately a further worry. Violence in eastern Ukraine last | :04:21. | :04:23. | |
night. Sergei Lavrov said that Russia has no plans to intervene. | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
But his Foreign Ministry warned that Russia reserves the right to protect | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
its compatriots. A worrying hint of possible things to come. | :04:33. | :04:43. | |
Bridget Kendall joins us now. Presumably people are waiting to see | :04:44. | :04:48. | |
what the results are? In particular, whether Russia may wish | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
to annex Crimea? Sergei Lavrov said in public and | :04:53. | :04:58. | |
private to John Kerry, that would meet its nuclear ones the referendum | :04:59. | :05:02. | |
has happened. I do not think that is a sign that there could still be a | :05:03. | :05:06. | |
way out of this. That is simply Russia being procedural. It does not | :05:07. | :05:09. | |
want to pre-empt what the people of crime yesterday. I asked him, as you | :05:10. | :05:15. | |
heard on the report, what will happen? He said that they would | :05:16. | :05:22. | |
respect the Crimean people. Crimea is lost to Ukraine. It will join | :05:23. | :05:28. | |
Russia and the West sees this as annexation. Russia sees it as the | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
Crimean people exercising their right to self-determination. If that | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
happens, if the referendum goes ahead, then there will be more | :05:37. | :05:41. | |
sanctions. EU ambassadors will be gathering on Sunday to prepare for | :05:42. | :05:45. | |
the talks on Monday which may trigger these abounds for officials. | :05:46. | :05:53. | |
-- bans on visas. That also includes Germany. It has | :05:54. | :06:01. | |
strengthened its position. Yes, Angela Merkel has toughened her | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
position. She has previously been a peacemaker but she clearly has an | :06:06. | :06:11. | |
arrangement, a relationship with President Putin. She has spoken to | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
him on the phone. She speaks in Russian and he speaks | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
in German, apparently. Yes, they have the languages and a | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
relationship but you have seen that Germany has no hard its position. | :06:26. | :06:34. | |
Europe is very alarmed. Russia sending its troops into Crimea and | :06:35. | :06:36. | |
training taking place on the border with eastern Ukraine, as he saw in | :06:37. | :06:44. | |
the report, is a sign of trouble. This will be seen as a pretext. A | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
new statement from the Russian Foreign Ministry said that they | :06:50. | :06:51. | |
reserve the right to protect compatriots. That is worrying. | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
Although, Sergei Lavrov seems to have reassured John Kerry that | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
Russia does not plan to intervene. But things change quickly. | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
Do you see any potential for movement on either side? There was a | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
change in tone with John Kerry. He said that Crimea has a special | :07:09. | :07:15. | |
status for the Russians. John Kerry came with a proposal | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
which was that if you do not annex Crimea then maybe Kiev will allow | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
greater autonomy. The new Ukrainian Prime Minister, the interim Prime | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
Minister, was in Washington yesterday. But I think what was | :07:30. | :07:36. | |
interesting was that it took six hours today for these talks. It was | :07:37. | :07:46. | |
fairly congenial also. They had different visions but they did shake | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
hands. They both do not want to stop the diplomatic track. 's the body | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
language is good. They are smiling at each other. Shaking hands. | :07:56. | :08:02. | |
Yes. This is not a break-up of a relationship. Even a personal level, | :08:03. | :08:09. | |
between Russia the West. But once the sanctions that chicken, Russia | :08:10. | :08:15. | |
will retaliate. They have said there will be reciprocal actions. That | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
will ratchet up the tension. Whether schools now, is well... | :08:19. | :08:28. | |
They said it was regret regrettable. We are going to be | :08:29. | :08:46. | |
asking where diplomacy is in the Syrian situation. To mark this grim | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
milestone, we have gained rare access to a new front in the war, in | :08:53. | :08:57. | |
the north-east of Syria. The Kurdish population they are clashed daily, | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
not with the regime, but with Islamist and other rebel groups. | :09:03. | :09:09. | |
Killed by a suicide bomber. Another gunfight is given an emotional | :09:10. | :09:16. | |
funeral. This person is among more than 500 who have died in the | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
struggle with Islamic extremists, not the Assad regime. This part of | :09:22. | :09:29. | |
Syria is controlled by the cards. We have rare clips of women fighters. | :09:30. | :09:37. | |
-- this part of Syria is controlled by the Kurdish people. | :09:38. | :09:44. | |
You cold-blooded British, you are sending us the scum of Britain and | :09:45. | :09:47. | |
Europe. And all in the name of Islam. They grow their beards but | :09:48. | :09:54. | |
they have nothing to do with Islam. This Islamic group is more extreme | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
than Al-Qaeda and are on the offensive here. This mosque was | :09:58. | :10:03. | |
virtually demolished when the attack a village recently. It belonged to a | :10:04. | :10:10. | |
sect of Islam they do not like. This was not random damage, this was | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
wholesale and absolutely systematic destruction of the mosque. There is | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
virtually nothing left. For most Muslims it is the ultimate insult to | :10:21. | :10:27. | |
burn the Koran. The Kurdish people are back in control of that village | :10:28. | :10:34. | |
but it is still problematic. The struggle is also about the oil that | :10:35. | :10:38. | |
abounds here. Gangs fight over it at night. By day, home-made mini | :10:39. | :10:44. | |
refineries pumping pollution. This nearby village was occupied for six | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
months last year by an official Al-Qaeda group in Syria. Kurdish | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
forces got them out. The villagers say they were glad to see the back | :10:56. | :11:04. | |
of them. TRANSLATION: When we were attacked, the village fled. If they | :11:05. | :11:11. | |
were here, you would not last five minutes. | :11:12. | :11:18. | |
The Kurdish people showed us a jail for captured militants. A group of | :11:19. | :11:24. | |
prisoners paraded for cameras. They were all Syrians from ices or | :11:25. | :11:27. | |
Al-Qaeda and we were not allowed to speak to them. But we were shown | :11:28. | :11:35. | |
people with papers from several countries. They found on the bodies | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
of Islamist fighters. Evidence of outside involvement in Syria's war. | :11:40. | :11:47. | |
This is a war with any words. Kurdish people fighting Islamic | :11:48. | :11:50. | |
extremists while the regime watches on. Like the wider war, it shows no | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
sign of ending, as Syria moves further deeper into conflict and | :11:57. | :12:06. | |
disintegration. We can now speak to Andrew Tabler, a | :12:07. | :12:10. | |
Syria specialist at the Washington Institute for Near East policy. On | :12:11. | :12:19. | |
this grim anniversary, I would like to ask you where we are at | :12:20. | :12:27. | |
diplomatically in trying to find a resolution? | :12:28. | :12:32. | |
Were at a dead stop. The recent peace talks in Geneva and Montreux, | :12:33. | :12:40. | |
came up with no solution. The deal was between Russia and the United | :12:41. | :12:46. | |
States that the United States would deliver the opposition and the | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
Russians would deliver the regime and they would hammer out a | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
transitional Government, based on the Geneva communique. The regime | :12:55. | :13:02. | |
refuses to discuss it. It only once talk about fighting terrorism. | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
Therefore, the talks broke down. Special representative Dave a top to | :13:08. | :13:14. | |
the Security Council yesterday and his words back that up to stop why | :13:15. | :13:20. | |
do you suppose the international community has lost the momentum a | :13:21. | :13:26. | |
bit in trying to bring the Geneva talks back to any kind of meaningful | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
pathway? Is it because of Ukraine? Is the | :13:31. | :13:38. | |
situation simply too difficult? The regime simply will not discuss | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
it. It is a strange situation where everybody realises that the only way | :13:44. | :13:49. | |
to peace Syria together again is through a transition, the bona fides | :13:50. | :14:00. | |
transition. Unfortunately that is simply not happening. Particularly | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
for the Russian side, there has been no pressure placed on the Assad | :14:05. | :14:11. | |
regime to comply. And that, I think, has led to the current breakdown in | :14:12. | :14:13. | |
talks. Is there also a sense, which some | :14:14. | :14:21. | |
people in Washington have expressed, of concern about certain elements in | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
the opposition being Islamist? Even jihadist West were hanging on? | :14:26. | :14:38. | |
Yes. I think that particularly among the Sunni opposition it is extremely | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
chaotic. Not just on the extremist side, but there are literally | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
hundreds of groups and I think that in the absence of a coherent | :14:47. | :14:52. | |
structure, but people can trust, the height next to a very brittle leader | :14:53. | :15:01. | |
like President Assad. -- a very brittle leader. It is one that is | :15:02. | :15:11. | |
not easily rectified. Thus far, the only programme that President Assad | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
has put forward to try and change this is his transition, his third | :15:15. | :15:23. | |
re-election as president of Syria. I have observed a number of elections | :15:24. | :15:32. | |
in my life and really, the elections there are just a big joke. President | :15:33. | :15:38. | |
Assad won the last election by 97%. Quite overwhelming. Do you see the | :15:39. | :15:50. | |
friends of Syria, perhaps, using military force in some shape or | :15:51. | :15:55. | |
form? I do not mean in the way of boots on the ground, but perhaps a | :15:56. | :16:02. | |
no-fly zone? Unfortunately, I do not see that. I see consensus where, the | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
regime is behind on delivering chemical weapons and there is | :16:08. | :16:12. | |
international agreement if they do not comply, there could be military | :16:13. | :16:17. | |
strikes, but until now, we do not have the strong arguments for direct | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
military intervention. People are suffering in the meantime and we | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
will see how much the international community can stomach this. We still | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
have a way to go before intervention is likely. Thank you for talking to | :16:31. | :16:40. | |
us. And now some of the other news in | :16:41. | :16:46. | |
brief. The police officer who initially investigated the death of | :16:47. | :16:49. | |
Oscar Pistorius' girlfriend was cross-examined again today at the | :16:50. | :16:51. | |
athlete's murder trial in Pretoria. He told the court that Pistorius had | :16:52. | :16:55. | |
blood on his arm after shooting Reeva Steenkamp. Photos from the | :16:56. | :17:02. | |
night, of the athlete with blood and of the gun were also shown in court. | :17:03. | :17:05. | |
Pistorius denies intentionally killing his girlfriend. | :17:06. | :17:12. | |
The president of Bayern Munich Uli Hoeness says he will not appeal | :17:13. | :17:15. | |
against his conviction for tax evasion. He's been sentenced three | :17:16. | :17:18. | |
and a half years in prison, for defrauding the German tax | :17:19. | :17:21. | |
authorities out of more than $35 million. A former star player, | :17:22. | :17:24. | |
Hoeness is stepping down immediately as president of Bayern Munich. | :17:25. | :17:32. | |
Information has emerged that the the Malaysian airliner that has been | :17:33. | :17:35. | |
missing for seven days sent routine automatic signals for several hours | :17:36. | :17:38. | |
after the aircraft was reported lost. 239 people were on board. | :17:39. | :17:42. | |
There is still no trace of the aircraft, and still no idea of what | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
happened to it. The search area has widened again. That search began in | :17:47. | :17:53. | |
the South China Sea. The authorities have since expanded that area | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
several times. First to the Straits of Malacca, then they shifted focus | :17:58. | :18:00. | |
toward the Andaman Islands. In the latest development, the search has | :18:01. | :18:03. | |
stretched further west to include the Indian Ocean, as well as deeper | :18:04. | :18:06. | |
into the South China Sea. Rupert Wingfield- Hayes sent this report | :18:07. | :18:16. | |
from Kuala Lumpur. In Beijing today, but hostility | :18:17. | :18:19. | |
towards Malaysia Airlines officials was palpable. One of the most | :18:20. | :18:26. | |
important things Malaysia Airlines has been doing is not speculating. | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
Nobody here is satisfied. How can love ones have simply disappeared? | :18:32. | :18:37. | |
It is incomprehensible. Astonishingly, a week later, there | :18:38. | :18:48. | |
is no trace of the flight. Today, the BBC confirmed the aeroplane | :18:49. | :18:52. | |
continued sending out a signal, via satellite, for several hours after | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
radar contact was lost. In the past 24 hours, we have seen a shift of | :18:58. | :19:03. | |
resources, ships and aircraft from the original search area, in the | :19:04. | :19:09. | |
Gulf of Thailand, over here, to the Straits of Malacca, and even far out | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
into the Indian Ocean. The latest to join this shift has been the U.S. | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
Navy, which is sending a destroyer to the Straits of Malacca today. | :19:19. | :19:26. | |
What remains unclear is why. This captain was a Malaysia Airlines | :19:27. | :19:31. | |
pilot for 35 years and says there is no way they are starting to search | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
the Indian Ocean on a hunch. I have a feeling. This is not your own | :19:37. | :19:43. | |
property. You are telling America, give me a ship, send it there. The | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
British, probably, have you any ships around the area? Can you | :19:49. | :19:54. | |
please send it now? It is our own property, we can do what we want. | :19:55. | :19:59. | |
There must be a level of strong conviction that something has | :20:00. | :20:05. | |
happened. Malaysia 's prime minister joined prayers for the missing. Many | :20:06. | :20:12. | |
think is government knows much more about the fate of the flight than it | :20:13. | :20:18. | |
is letting on. Our science correspondent has | :20:19. | :20:24. | |
conducted his own research, looking at satellite systems on the flight. | :20:25. | :20:30. | |
One of the systems was operated by the big London telecommunications | :20:31. | :20:36. | |
company who confirmed their system was on board and they received | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
automated signals. I understand they received the signals for up to five | :20:41. | :20:46. | |
hours after the aircraft went out of Malaysia and S space. It is probable | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
the information was automated, it does not really carry any real | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
information. But the fact they received the signal means the plane | :20:56. | :21:02. | |
must be intact and powered. It cannot have crashed. | :21:03. | :21:09. | |
Jonathan Amis. -- Amos. The veteran British Labour | :21:10. | :21:17. | |
politician Tony Benn has died at his home in London at the age of 88. | :21:18. | :21:21. | |
Tony Benn was one of the most influential left- wing figures in | :21:22. | :21:24. | |
British politics, and was a popular public speaker, anti-war campaigner | :21:25. | :21:26. | |
and political diarist. He was a life-long Socialist and in a moment | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
we will be discussing how relevant his kind of politics is in today's | :21:31. | :21:33. | |
world, first Iain Watson looks back at his life. 100% support to those | :21:34. | :21:40. | |
who do not, cannot, or, will not pay the poll tax. For much of his career | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
he was seen as a left-wing firebrand, indulging in what he | :21:45. | :21:48. | |
called extraparliamentary to the tee, or put simply taking the | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
argument for socialism into the streets. -- activity. As Anthony | :21:55. | :22:02. | |
Wedgwood Benn, he refused to inherit a title to become an MP. You have | :22:03. | :22:14. | |
defeated the House of Lords. As a minister in the Wilson government he | :22:15. | :22:17. | |
was seen as a modern eyes and technocrat and help to clear the | :22:18. | :22:21. | |
supersonic Concorde project for take-off. He later said that Tony | :22:22. | :22:36. | |
Benn later immature -- immatured with age. His critics say the | :22:37. | :22:43. | |
deficiency highlighted help get labour from power the two decades. | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
He argued the nationalisation of the Big Bang is and the withdrawal from | :22:48. | :22:54. | |
the European Union. The Humphrey Applebys have got together. You | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
cannot do this, Minister, because we agreed with the Dutch, and the | :22:59. | :23:03. | |
Belgians and the Italians, and so the minister has no power anyway. In | :23:04. | :23:09. | |
2001 he said he was leaving Parliament to take up politics. He | :23:10. | :23:13. | |
was a leading figure in the campaign to stop the Iraq war. People paid to | :23:14. | :23:24. | |
hear his thoughts. Confirming he had completed the journey from radical | :23:25. | :23:27. | |
to national institution. He chronicled contemporary events. Last | :23:28. | :23:32. | |
year, he told the BBC he remained convinced politics should not be | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
about shoddy compromise. My mother said to me that all decisions, | :23:38. | :23:41. | |
including political, are basically moral, is it right, is it wrong? He | :23:42. | :23:48. | |
often declared politics should be about policy as not personality. | :23:49. | :23:53. | |
Today, Westminster lost one of its most distinctive and distinguished | :23:54. | :24:00. | |
figures. With me is Hilary Wainwright, | :24:01. | :24:03. | |
founding editor of the magazine Red Pepper, and an author and | :24:04. | :24:06. | |
commentator on left-wing politics and social movements. Looking at the | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
political beliefs Tony Benn had, socialism. A bit out of date today? | :24:13. | :24:20. | |
I do not think so. His socialism was about people collaborating, acting | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
collectively. It was not about the state. He believed in workers' | :24:25. | :24:31. | |
control and industrial democracy. It was going back to original ideas of | :24:32. | :24:38. | |
socialism as a form of collaboration and cooperation rather than the | :24:39. | :24:45. | |
market ethos of individualism. Even countries who have socialist | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
somewhere in their title, such as Cuba, with the socialist system, | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
China, if you look at them now, especially the economic systems, | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
they have embraced capitalism. I would not say capitalism. Market | :25:00. | :25:08. | |
forces. It is a particular kind. The state still plays an important role. | :25:09. | :25:13. | |
On the other hand, you have coming from the people, whether it is next | :25:14. | :25:19. | |
to Wall Street, or the City of London here, all the squares of | :25:20. | :25:25. | |
Spain and Greece, you have the emergence of incredibly strong, | :25:26. | :25:29. | |
youthful movements, wanting a different system, which are clearly | :25:30. | :25:33. | |
against capitalism and the kind of experiment with new kinds of collect | :25:34. | :25:39. | |
to democracy, which is what Tony Benn would have looked towards and | :25:40. | :25:48. | |
been inspired by. Is the term socialism an albatross, and people | :25:49. | :25:54. | |
espouse socialism but the term is a bitch... ? I | :25:55. | :26:03. | |
-- the term is a bit... It is the worship of capital. It is worth | :26:04. | :26:19. | |
keeping alive. It is important to distinguish the social from the | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
state. There have been many different forms of social and that | :26:24. | :26:27. | |
should not be overwhelmed by simply the notion of the state. Tony Benn, | :26:28. | :26:34. | |
he said the older he got the more of a socialist he was and that is | :26:35. | :26:39. | |
unusual. Because he radicalised in office. He had a vision. He was | :26:40. | :26:46. | |
blocked by business and the state. He was looking all the time for | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
alternatives. That is it. Enjoy your weekend. | :26:52. | :26:59. | |
With more of a breeze picking up, we have lost the risk of fog in the | :27:00. | :27:07. | |
morning. Into the weekend, it is looking pretty decent the most. | :27:08. | :27:11. |