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This is BBC World News Today with me, Philippa Thomas.

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John Kerry says there is no military solution in Iraq - the US Secretary

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of State tells Iraqi leaders there has to be a unity government.

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On the ground, Isis-led fighters are repelled by

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the Iraqi army west of Baghdad but continue their advance elsewhere.

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Prime Minister David Cameron apologises for employing as his

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communications chief Andy Coulson - today found guilty of conspiring to

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hack mobile phones while editing Britain's best selling newspaper.

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President Putin talks peace on Ukraine, calling for a longer

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ceasefire, but reports are coming in of a Ukrainian army helicopter shot

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And we'll have all the latest World Cup news from Rio.

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I will be live from Rio de Janeiro bringing you the World Cup today.

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Iraq's biggest oil refinery is the subject of intense struggle between

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The Sunni militant group Isis says they've taken it.

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But the Iraqi airforce is also reported to have launched

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The refinery has been under siege for ten days with militants

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The rebels say they're allowing local tribes to oversee

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the complex which supplies a third of Iraq's refined fuel.

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The Isis-led fighters have been strengthening their positions -

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after taking over key border crossings with Syria

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and Jordan - tightening their grip on the north and west of Iraq.

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And that's the focus of crisis talks between the US Secretary of

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State John Kerry and Kurdish leaders in the city of Irbil today.

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including the President of Iraqi Kurdistan, Massoud Barzani.

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Mr Kerry has promised 'intense support for Iraqi security forces'

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But as Fergal Keane reports from Irbil,

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the government's challenge might in fact be on a far bigger scale.

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In the shadow of its ancient citadel,

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And it was here that we met with Sunni fighters who travelled to

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They very rarely talk to Western media

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Baghdad will soon fall, they told me.

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It is a matter of time, less than one month.

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Now they are asking young Shia to fight against us, but we will

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be there very soon and Baghdad will fall under the revolution.

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And they say that Prime Minister Malachy will be

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Sharia law says the killer must be killed.

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The fighters are from Sunni tribes, spurred on to radicalism

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by a government crackdown in their hometown of Falluja.

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One reason they may have decided to talk to us is a drawing resentment

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A feeling that the Sunni revolution has been taken over.

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I want to say to America and the world that this is not

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We ask the EU and America to support the Sunni people.

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The Iraqi army is still striking at insurgents

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Latest reports suggest the country's biggest oil refinery

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Now America is pressing for a new Iraqi government,

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Without an adequate transformative decision

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by the leaders of Iraq, anything that the US for others or allies do

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to try to fight back is going to be limited, if not impossible.

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John Kerry was speaking here in Irbil where Iraq's ethnic groups

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coexist peacefully under the Kurdish majority.

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It is a dream, but only that, of what

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Iraq is a complex catastrophe and the idea that there will be one

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outright winner to control the whole country is a fallacy.

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What we've heard from the Sunni fighters suggests

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a growing resentment of their Isis allies, so even if the insurgents

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win it could only be the first phase in a much longer war.

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With me is Harlan Ullman, senior adviser at the international affairs

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He was the principal author of the military strategy of

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"shock and awe" employed during the opening stages of US action

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Wellcome. What can John Kerry achieved in Iraq? He can be an

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instrument to try to resolve some of the various factions. He is talking

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to the currency were very important because they will continue to

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understand their opposed Isis militants, so having them onside is

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important. The interesting issue is that we talk about the militants. It

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is a mixture of TNT and nitroglycerin. Various groups get

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together because they oppose the Sunni governments. They are army

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people who were thrown out and present the government. And there

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are also the tribal Sunni who want revenge against the governments. You

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have this horrible mixture which is not coherence. At some stage they

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will turn against the really radical jihadists.

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This push towards Baghdad does not make sense to me.

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You think they've gone as far as they can get?

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I'm not sure. But they have been able to do with a small number of

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troops is to rally the Sunni who are opposed to the administration. It is

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a mass grouping of people. Lawrence of Arabia in 1947, 2% of men led the

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98%. I think that is a good formula. 2% of the insurgents are then

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rallying the Sunni and then that becomes the issue. It becomes an

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seeding -- exceedingly difficult for the government to deal with this

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because it is a people's revolution, more than just jihadis trying to

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take over and establish new rule. What about the currents? If one of

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the reasons that John Kerry is talking to the Kurdish people to

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say, hold on and have Iraq as a state, as an entity? We have to rely

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on the international community. Talking to the Saudis, talking to

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the Israelis, and even the Russians, as difficult as that may

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sound. This is connected to Syria. Iran, he was opposed to Isis and

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militants, who are favouring basher al-Assad in Syria. Secretary John

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Kerry is very sophisticated, very knowledgeable and the United States

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could not have a better man in the job.

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John Kerry me know that Iran and Iraq have to be dealt with, but look

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at Congress where Republican congressmen have said that in no

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circumstances do we deal with Iraq. I would remind people that in 1972,

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Richard Nixon went to China and I dare say if he was a Democrat, the

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Republicans would have been up in arms.

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Republicans have to take hold of themselves and take a breath.

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Resolving that issue is far more important than resentment against

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Iran because in 1979 they held hostages and because they support

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Hezbollah and I ran my Israeli. These are bigger stakes. -- anti-in

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Britain -- anti-Israeli. You are talking about the importance

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of talking. You are of course very well known for formulating shock and

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awe, the military strategy. Do you have any regrets about that US

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emphasis on the military 's sustained regulation?

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People are talking about shock and awe as a slogan, a sound and light

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show. The shock and we developed is far away from the shock and awe that

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was used in March 20 -- March 2003. Shock and awe was entirely

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different. Starting from the outcome, what did you want to

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achieve? Did you want to achieve a stable Iraq? That is where you

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start, not just with the Iraqi army. We never used shock and awe, we used

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to Desert Storm and then left. Thank you.

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The British Prime Minister David Cameron has apologised today

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after his former director of communications, Andy Coulson,

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was found guilty of conspiring to hack mobile phones.

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The offences took place while he was editor of the News

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of the World, once Britain's best-selling newspaper.

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The phone hacking trial at London's Old Bailey heard 130 days of

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evidence about allegations relating to hacking dating back 15 years.

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Mr Coulson - who went on to become the Prime Minister's official

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spokesman - was found guilty of conspiring to intercept voicemails.

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The former News International chief executive, Rebekah Brook,

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who was also Coulson's former lover, was cleared of 4 charges, including

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hacking voicemails, and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

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The court case resulted in Rupert Murdoch having to shut down News

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of the World - after 168 years of publication The Prime Minister has

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said he took "full responsibility for employing Andy Coulson".

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David Cameron said he was "extremely sorry", and admitted it

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A warning that there is flash photography in this report.

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It started with the hacking of a murdered schoolgirl's phone. It

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became a wider scandal about the power of the media, it's cosy

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relations with senior politicians and it even close the News of the

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World, which had been around for over 150 years. It has ended in a

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differing fates for the two main characters. Rebekah Brookes, a

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house, friend and body of an assortment of prime ministers,

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walked free from court. Andy Coulson, her former colleague and

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lover, was convicted of hacking, prompting an extraordinary apology

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from a man who once employed him. I take full responsibility for

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employing Andy Coulson. I did so on the basis of undertakings I was

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given by him about phone hacking, as does turn out not to be the case. I

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always said that if they does turn out not to be the case. I

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always said that if turned out to be wrong I would make a full and frank

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apology, and I do that today. I am extremely sorry that I employed him.

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It was the wrong decision and I am very clear on that. You must have

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had suspicions -- he must've had suspicions and yet he refused to

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act. This taints David Cameron's governments because we now know that

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he put his relationship with Rupert Murdoch ahead of doing the right

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thing when it came to Andy Coulson. The damage to the British by

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Minister is likely to be limited to short term embarrassment. It will be

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soon be seen as old news. Rupert Murdoch offered his apologies when

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the scandal first broke in 2011. He somehow feels less of a force here

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in the UK badly once was. The whole hacking scandal has shaken Britain,

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quite literally in the case of the old headquarters of the News of the

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World. Damaging the reputation of tabloid journalists, newspaper

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owners and politicians alike. The Ukrainian authorities say

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a military helicopter has been shot down near the rebel-held eastern

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city of Sloviansk, just a day after pro-Russian insurgents said

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they had agreed to a ceasefire. The news came just hours

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after the Russian president Vladimir Putin took

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a step to reduce tensions - asking parliament to REVOKE the power it

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had given the Russian military to intervene in Ukraine, the power that

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was used to annexe Crimea. But he urged Kiev to hold

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substantive talks with the rebels Cancelling the mandate to use troops

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in Ukraine does not mean we. Paying attention to what is going on. It

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will always defend the rights of ethnic Russians in Ukraine and those

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Ukrainians who have ethnic, cultural and linguistic connections to

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Russia. We will be following events closely and we will react

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accordingly. I hope that the use of force won't be necessary.

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Joining me from Moscow is Dimitry Babich, political analyst

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I wanted your opinion on what President Putin had to say. How

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significant is this? It just shows one more time that Russia is not

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going to occupy eastern Ukraine, these two regions. Sloviansk and

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.net. Which are part of this insurgency and obviously at least a

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big part of the population there once these regions to become

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independent of Ukraine. Russia sympathises with this people and

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understand they don't want to live under the new government in Kiev but

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Russia is not going to go as far as deploying troops there. And yet we

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have heard today from the self-declared Prime Minister in the

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Donestk People's Republic saying that he thinks that President

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Putin's words do not apply to his republic. He said he is still

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appealing to the Russian republic to sending peacekeepers. It is not so

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easy for the separatists to stand down. That is true. Unfortunately,

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despite the announced cease-fire from the government side in Ukraine,

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you heard that the helicopter was shot down near Sloviansk. It was

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obviously not an attack by the separatists, there was another fight

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going on near the scene. This helicopter brought some

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paratroopers, that is what the authorities in Sloviansk say. And it

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was shot down by the separatist fighters. The fighting continues.

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President Putin reiterated it during his trip to Vienna today and

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certainly it would be much better if Russia helped militarily. Even if

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Russia does not, it is quite clear already that hundreds of people in

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the east of Ukraine where killed by the Ukrainian troops, millions of

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people herd the Ukrainian planes bombing there are cities or towns

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nearby. So I am afraid the scars of this war are going to last for a

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very long time. Civil wars are very painful and the scars the safety of

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the nation much deeper than with foreign countries. Is a key positive

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move that any new Ukrainian president has talked about giving

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the East Timor autonomy? -- is it a positive move. Yes. He stopped short

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of saying they will be able to elect their own governors without

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influence from Kiev. He said Kiev would recommend head of the

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elections in the next and that is not going to reassure a lot of

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people. -- the elections in Donestk. There was a positive this

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signal yesterday when there was the first negotiation between the

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president and officials from the republics. The former president of

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Ukraine acted as a representative of Kiev in this negotiation is all that

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is a very important first step. Talks have begun. Thank you for your

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time. Egypt's President Abdul Fattah

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al-Sisi has said he won't intervene to cut or quash the jail sentences

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given to Al-Jazeera journalists Today, BBC journalists were joined

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by colleagues from other news organisations in a one-minute

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protest outside this building, Similar protests have been

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staged around the world. Peter Greste, an Australian reporter

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who used to work for the BBC, and Cairo bureau chief Mohammed Fahmy

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each received seven year jail terms. Producer Baher Mohammed was

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sentenced to ten years. They had all denied the charges

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of spreading false news, and aiding Expressing outrage in silence.

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Outside New Broadcasting House, journalists from the BBC and other

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news organisations united in protest. The ECB hajj prison

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sentences on the al-Jazeera team as a fundamental attack on freedom of

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speech. Many of the journalists here identify closely with the jailed

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men. Some know them personally. Others feel they could easily be in

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the same predicament. -- they feel the prison sentences. There were

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silent protest as well in Islamabad and other BBC offices around the

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road from Johannesburg to Baghdad. In Australia, Peter regressed's

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family are still reeling from the verdict. I know Peter has been very

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strong. Sorry. -- Bela Horizonte. -- Bela Horizonte. Journalism is not a

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crime, it is as simple as that. This man, our son, Peter, is an

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award-winning journalist. He is not a criminal. -- Peter Greste. Even

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after the international outcry, the Egyptian president is refusing to

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intervene. I called the Justice Minister and told him in one

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sentence that I would not interfere in the judicial matters because the

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Egyptian judiciary is independent and solid. We should not harm or

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pass comment on the state institutions. If we are serious

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about building state institutions, we have to respect judiciary

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rulings. I'm not condemning them. Saw no immediate pardon for Peter

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Greste and other journalists. The feast at least seven years in jail

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while there are legal teams scramble to launch an appeal.

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We brought you the news yesterday of the release of Sudanese woman

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Meriam Ibrahim, who had been sentenced to death for converting

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Well in an extraordinary development it's been reported that

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the 27-year-old mother has been detained whilst trying to leave

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With me is James Copnall, author and former BBC Sudan correspondent.

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The Foreign Ministry has told the BBC she will be released soon. Do we

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think she is free? Not yet. That is what the Foreign Ministry appears to

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be saying. There is a lot of confusion. That comes from the

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competing elements within the Sudanese ruling elite. You have the

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military and security. The national security team to have reacted in a

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lay-by area resting Meriam Ibrahim and her family members that have

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surprised the Sudanese government. One senior politician did not know

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she had been arrested. Or what she had been arrested for. The Foreign

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Ministry is saying she will be released soon but we have to see

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what the national security are going to do. There is pressure from her

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own family, from her brother. Yes. Her brother brought the charges

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against her. That is what the Sudanese officials keep stressing

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when they want to defend the rule of sedan in all of this because they

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think sedan has been unfairly criticised. The judiciary has done

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its bit. A lot of people will be sceptical about that. There is

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pressure and competing pressures on that Sudanese government also.

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Religious conservatives who would have been in favour of the original

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sentence against Meriam Ibrahim and will not be happy about the fact

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that she was released. There is pressure within society, there is

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different pressures within the Sudanese ruling elite. It is a

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contributed situation. If they thinking that she will try to leave

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the country? Perhaps then is a US citizen? That's right. They were at

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the airport when they were released. There is some suspicion that

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national security objected to the documents they were travelling with

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and that has to be confirmed. Certainly the intention seems to be

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for the family to get out of sedan after they are released and that is

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being thwarted by this dramatic rearrest. How closely had this been

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followed within sedan itself? There has been interest, because this is

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the great debate within Sudanese society, how do you want the country

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governed? A strict interpretation of Islamic law, something that human

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rights campaigners and women's activists have been against? It is a

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broad debate in Sudanese society and is being followed closely.

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Time to update you on the football World Cup, and two of today's much

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anticipated matches are over - but there's still more to come.

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Italy have been knocked out of the tournament after a controversial

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incident involving Luis Suarez. Let's go to Peter Okwoche in Rio -

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what news? Thank you. It was a game that both

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sides needed to win if they were going to progress to the round of

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16. In the end, Uruguay triumphed. 1-0 with a goal scored late in the

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second half. Two major incidents and that game. A red card for an Italian

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defender earlier in the second half meant they played most of the second

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half with ten men. There was this alleged biting incident I Luis

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Suarez on the shoulder of another player. After that, Uruguay quickly

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went to the other end and scored their goal from a corner. The player

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who had been bitten try to show the bite marks to the referee who waved

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him away. But you remember that two seasons ago, Luis Suarez served an

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eight-week ban in the Premier League for biting Chelsea's divan of it. --

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Ivanovic. FIFA might want to look at this. The referee did not see it and

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waved their Italian player away. The family want to look at it

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retrospectively and if they define Luis guilty, he makes be in a spot

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of trouble. There has been another match of course involving the

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England team. Some more to come as well? That's right. It has been a

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woeful World Cup so far for England. It had ended for them. We thought

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they might restore some of their prey to the West may be a good

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performance against Costa Rica. That game ended in a drawer, it meant

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Costa Rica progress as winners of that group and England just confirm

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their flight back home. Later tonight, two more games, Ivory Coast

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will be bidding to qualify or the red of 16 for the first time in

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their history, they require a victory against Greece. If Greece

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win the game, they will progress to the next round. In the other match,

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it is Colombia versus Japan. Colombia have already won that

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group. Just briefly, we are getting down to the final 16. Now we are so

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far into the tournament itself, you think the key thing problems are

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over? That Brazil is coming out of this pretty well? You would have to

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say that. At the beginning of this tournament, we kept on saying that

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the authorities were hoping that once the football started, there

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would be no more protests. We have seen a couple of protest. Today

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there was a small protest before the Brazil game, but I think the

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authority so far will be happy with the way the World Cup is going at

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the moment and they will hope it continues that way. Caregiver

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bringing us up to date. For more on the World Cup, you can

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join the conversation on Twitter You can also talk to me

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about this or any other Iraq's biggest oil refinery is the

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subject of intense struggle between the Iraqi military and rebel forces.

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The Sunni militant group said it had taken it but the Iraqi air force is

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also reported to have been in action.

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across some parts of England. Tomorrow, a slightly fresher feel to

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the day will stop quite cloudy but with continuing sunny

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