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This is BBC World News Today with me Geeta Guru-Murthy.

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We have special live coverage of a news conference with Theresa May and

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Francoise Arman. I speak in English about cooperation. Obviously we have

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just talked about the issue of the invocation of article 50 and the

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length of time and, as the president said, we both recognise the

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importance of preparing for that so that the negotiations can be as

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orderly and constructive as possible. We have had excellent

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discussions, very constructive and very open discussions that I have

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just had with President Francois Hollande and I look forward to

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working with both him and Chancellor Angela Merkel in the future. I have

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had very good working relations with my French counterparts as Home

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Secretary both the previous interior minister and the current one and we

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have always worked very openly and constructively in a way that is to

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the benefit both countries and that is the spirit in which we will

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continue to work together the future. I had very precise

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information about Theresa May through both of the interior

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ministers who told me how much they both appreciated the work conducted

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jointly on very difficult issues that relate to our own security and

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the fight against terrorism and controlling migrated -- migration

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and how much France and UK have been able to achieve the necessary

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compromise to deal with the most tricky human issues and I knew that

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we would have a relationship. As to individuals and to countries it

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would be commensurate with our history and the friendship between

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us. On the issue of negotiations, it is not a matter of doing legally,

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engaging in legalese, you can do it, how to proceed, it's really all

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about having in mind the interest of our two countries and the interests

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of Europe. It is true that tomorrow the UK will no longer be in the EU

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but as the Prime Minister indicated the UK will still be in Europe.

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Geographically, there is no doubt, politically to the destiny of Europe

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will always be of interest to the UK as Europe will always be interested

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by what the UK can achieve on a global scale, so the opening of the

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negotiation to my mind must be consistent with our interests and

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reduce as far as possible uncertainty, doubts and questions.

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That is the sense of the French position. It is not possible to say

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to the British people you voted, you must draw the conclusions from that

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and you must, there must be a penalty applied to you in terms of

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your boat. It is not up to us to judge. The British people have

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decided. It has decided to leave the EU. Its freedom and its sovereignty

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and we must draw the conclusions of that. It is possible to obtain from

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the EU and from Francois Hollande both participation in the single

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market and restricted freedom of movement for your country? Well, the

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message that the British people gave in their vote for the UK to leave

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the EU also had a very clear message that we should introduce some

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controls to the movement of individuals from the countries in

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the European Union into the UK and obviously it will be part of the

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negotiations. I am clear that the government should deliver and will

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deliver on that for the British people but we also want to get the

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right deal on the trade in goods and services and I think this is

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important, economically not just for the United Kingdom but for other

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countries in the European Union as well. Obviously those matters will

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be matters for the negotiation process that we go through in

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determining the relationship for the UK with the European Union after

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we've left. That is the point that will be the

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subject of the negotiation. The UK today has access to the single

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market because it respects the four freedoms. If it wishes to remain

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within the single market it is its own decision to know how far it

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would have to abide by the four freedoms. None can be separated from

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the other, there cannot be freedom of movement of goods, free movement

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of capital, free movement of services if there isn't a free

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movement of people. With David Cameron, prior to the referendum,

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there had been a number of limited opt outs that in no way hindered

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freedom of movement of people and it would be the choice facing the UK,

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remain in the single market and then assume the free movement that goes

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with it, or to have another status, that will be the subject of the

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negotiation. Prime Minister, you suggested during the referendum that

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the UK border controls in Calais could be in jeopardy of the UK voted

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for Brexit and the French economy minister made a similar claim. This

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is a question to you both, is that completely wrong, or is there still

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any possibility at all that this agreement may be revisited? Well, we

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have discussed the agreement and President Francois Hollande and the

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interior minister have been very clear from their point of view that

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they wish the agreement to stay. I want the agreement to stay and I

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know there are those who are calling for it to go, there are those within

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France who are calling for it to go. I believe it is an important

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agreement. We have developed it in recent times and we have been

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putting more resources to the security around the area and I am

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grateful to the efforts that the French government have made in the

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increased numbers of police that they have put in to Calais in order

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to deal with issues around the juxtaposed controls there, from the

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migrant camps. The agreement is of benefit, I believe, to both the

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United Kingdom and France and I think we are both very clear,

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Britain now having taken the decision to leave the EU, but we are

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both very clear that this agreement should stay. The UK has never been

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in the Schengen area, so it was necessary to have an agreement

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between the UK and France, notably to address the issue of these

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migrants, these refugees coming to the borders of France and the UK in

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Calais and today is the Prime Minister indicated this agreement we

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applied because it is useful to both our countries and it allows us to

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address cases that otherwise would not be addressed and notably the

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case of Minos and it is also the case that we could say to migrants

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that they cannot come to Calais, there is no point coming to Calais,

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because they won't be able to cross because the UK will not accept them

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and the border security must be watertight so that there is no

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crossing at the risk of their life. It is in the interest of these

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people that we wanted to apply this agreement, let me remind you that it

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is another government that did this and we consider it as our duty to

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apply it and to apply it in the best spirit and also to improve it. Thank

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you. Thank you very much. The press conferences just breaking up there

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with the British Prime Minister Theresa May and Francois Hollande,

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the French president. This is a special live coverage for BBC world

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and the viewers here in the UK. Theresa May and Francois Hollande

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started off by paying tribute, of course, to the victims and those who

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lost loved ones in the Nice attack last week and they say the talks on

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Brexit got off to a very positive start. Theresa May said that the

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deal on British citizens living in the EU and French and other citizens

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living in the UK, they hoped it would continue. President Francois

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Hollande also said in terms of when Brexit should happen and in terms of

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a deal, the sooner the better, because uncertainty is very

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difficult. Also talking about the deal on Calais and is Theresa May

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said that the French wanted the deal to continue. Some uncertainty here

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about the status of that deal but both leaders basically were saying

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that they had had a very positive and constructive opening to talks

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but Francois Hollande said that if the UK wanted to stay in the single

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market it needed to abide by all four freedoms, goods, capital and

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services cannot continue if there is no freedom of movement for people.

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We will now get some reaction to that from the former political

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editor of the French newspaper Liberation. Give us your thoughts on

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this first public statement from the leaders. I thought that the reaction

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and the attitude from President Francois Hollande was a little bit

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more conciliatory tonight than it had been in previous statements,

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including this morning in Ireland when he was visiting in Dublin. I

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found that he added one small sentence when he said that article

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50 should be started as soon as possible, he said, but I understand

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that the newly formed British government needs time to prepare.

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This is something that Angela Merkel said yesterday in Berlin, but the

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French had not accepted this idea that Britain needed some time to

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prepare before activating article 50 and I thought this was a little bit

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more conciliatory than the official tough line that the French had put

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before. Why do you think that is? Is it that the reality of meeting the

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British leader and accepting that the opposition has got to be worked

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through, because it is obviously incredibly complex, isn't it? I

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think it is realistic. You cannot expect a massive negotiation such as

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the one that will take place between the UK and the EU to be just

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starting out of the blue and this is just plain realism. Also I think

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President Francois: this trying to follow a thin line between looking

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tough because he doesn't want to give the impression that it is easy

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to leave the European Union, he doesn't want to show other countries

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or French voters that this is something that can be done just

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overnight and in an easy way because as you know there are temptations

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elsewhere in Europe and in some sections of the French electorate to

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follow what happened in the UK. That is one point, and the second one is

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also that France is very keen, particularly one week after the Nice

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terrorist attack, to keep strong friendship relations with the UK.

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France and the UK have very strong the literary and intelligence and

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police cooperation dealing with terrorism or the Middle East issue

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and I think this is also very important at this stage, probably

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more than just politicking. We're just looking at the leaders shaking

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hands there and there were smiles and laughter at one point from

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Theresa May. I don't know what you thought of the body language. Had

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you think they got on? We saw Theresa May paying very warm tribute

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to the interior ministers and she said she had had an excellent

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relationship with them because she was the Home Secretary in Britain

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until a week ago. There was a lot of mutual tribute and also some light

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moments when Francois Hollande said that he had been improved by the

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interior ministers that she was somebody they could work with and

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that he could probably work with as well. I think they made their best

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to show a nice picture, some understanding but deep down the

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positions remain quite far apart. Many thanks indeed for your time. Of

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course both leaders did talk about the Nice attack at the start of that

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press conference. Today we heard more on that. The man who murdered

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those people down in the attack could helpers and it had been

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planned for months. This is according to the French prosecutor.

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Mr Molins said the investigation so far showed that the attacker

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Mohammed Bouhlel had plotted the attack for months

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From the investigation, based on those various photographs,

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it appears that Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel had

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premeditated his criminal attack several months before

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Some of the contacts of previous weeks and

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months with the individuals individuals that are appearing

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before the court today are confirming this theory.

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Let's speak to our Paris correspondent Lucy Williamson.

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What more did we learn about the Nice attack?

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We learned that when investigators went through the phone of Mohammed

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Bouhlel and other places they found evidence that the interior minister

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had thought might be that of evidence of radicalisation. There

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where text messages between Mohammed Bouhlel and one of his suspected

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accomplices that describe them as the soldiers of Allah, which seemed

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to support the attacks on the offices of Charlie Hebdo here last

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year and really supported the theory that some in the government had put

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forward, that Mohammed Bouhlel might have been very quickly radicalised

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and now the big question is, this group of accomplices, if it turns

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out that they are indeed implicated in this attack, what sort of role do

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they have in the wider jihadist network, how plugged in was this

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group to those wider links for the jihadist network around the world?

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We saw the response of people in Nice just a few days ago to the

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French government, the feeling of a loss of control in France, can they

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trust their security services? What is the mood now with these new

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revelations coming out? Of course it is quite recent, these

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new revelations, but I think it will turn the pressure up on the

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government even more. You will remember at that time when the Prime

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Minister turned up on the promenade in Neath and was booed by the crowd,

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it wasn't really known what caused the attack and now there is more

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evidence suggesting there is a group with a more violent Islamist and

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jihadist motivation and if that turns that to be true the government

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will come under even more pressure, far more than if it were perhaps

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just a random attack. I do have to say that the mood in France after

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each one of the major attacks here, and there have been three now, has

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been slightly different. After the Charlie Hebdo attacks in January

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2015, that sense of real unity, of the country pulling together in

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grief as disintegrated to a large degree and people are very angry and

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divided and a lot of people are criticising the government for not

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being tough in terms of what it does to prevent attacks like this.

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Thank you very much indeed. We will move now to the United

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convention in Cleveland, Ohio which hasn't been short of drama.

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Former Presidential hopeful Ted Cruz was booed off stage yesterday

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after he refused to endorse Donald Trump, while Mr Trump has

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himself come under fire for comments regarding NATO.

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Our correspondent Gary O'Donoghue joins us now from Cleveland, Ohio.

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it has been an extraordinary few hours.

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Yes it is one of the things that keeps giving. We had Ted Cruz here

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in the wall last night refusing to endorse Donald Trump and getting

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roundly brewed offstage for doing that. This morning he has been

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giving some explanation about what he's thinking was an effectively he

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said he was not going to be a servile puppy dog to people who

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disrespected not just his wife, but his father as well. Here he is

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speaking at a Republican breakfast this morning.

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I'm not going to get into criticising or attacking Donald

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Trump but I'll just give you this response.

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I am not in the habit of

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supporting people who attack my wife and attack my father.

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And that pledge was not a blanket commitment that if

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you go and slander and attack Heidi that I'm going to nonetheless

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come like a servile puppy dog and say thank you very much

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for maligning my wife and maligning my father.

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And for those who have forgotten, those attacks, effectively he

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accused, Donald Trump accused the father of Ted Cruz about being

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involved in the assassination of Ted Kennedy and he also suggested that

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his wife was not very good looking, so pretty personal stuff. Later

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today we will have Donald Trump in the all behind me giving his keynote

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speech become pension, a much bigger speech than he is used to giving

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previously and it will be along the speech and more structured. We hope

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to hear more detail and more predations -- positions that out

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more clearly and notably we will see if there is a reference to the idea

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that Nato might not be able to rely on the United States to come to the

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aid of individual countries if they don't pay their dues and he has been

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setting that out this morning but it is a very big moment for him here in

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the arena. Brazilian police have arrested ten

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people who were allegedly planning a terrorist attack during next

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month's Olympic Games The arrests occurred

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in the border state of Parana, which borders Paraguay,

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from where members of the group were Police say the group is sympathetic

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to the so-called Islamic State. This is tagged man and a warrant for

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further two who have been arrested in the southern state of Parana,

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which is significant because it is a pretty open border with Paraguay and

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the allegation is that these people looked into the possibility of

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getting weapons, particularly AK-47 assault rifles from Paraguay into

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Brazil. The group been communicating with each other over Internet terror

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of -- Internet messaging services and they had celebrated, in the

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words of the police, the recent attacks in France and there wasn't

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enough information according to federal police here in Brazil to

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suspect these men of being in the planning stages of a possible

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attack. It is important to point out there is no specific information

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about an attack, a target, but because of the heightened security

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situation now in Rio and wider in the Brazil, with two weeks to go

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until the Olympic Games, the authorities are on an increased

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alert level which was increased again after the recent attacks and

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there have been lots of information and allegations across the web that

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an attack was imminent but the authorities are very clear to point

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out they have no specific evidence of an attack but this group of men,

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some of whom were known personally to each other and others had met

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over the Internet, were in the preparatory stages of planning an

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attack. Back to the Republican convention

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now, Jay Newton-Small is TIME Magazine's Washington correspondent

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and she joins me now Our news bulletin here in the UK is

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really dominated by so many unsettled events right around the

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globe so the leadership of the United States seems never more

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important. We will see Donald Trump today, but he has had a very

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extraordinary last few hours, first of all the Ted Cruz incident. Talk

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us through the significance of that and the prospects of unifying the

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Republicans? It is an incredibly important speech were Donald Trump,

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perhaps the most important of his life because two out of the last

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three days zone party at his own convention has been split over

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whether or not they want him as the nominee. He is yet to solidify his

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hold on the Republican party which makes it incredibly difficult to

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take on Hillary Clinton without the full backing of the party behind

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him. With the world being in such chaos and turmoil, with attacks

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happening all over the place, people are looking to America for

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leadership and they are looking to Donald Trump tonight to get a sense

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of gravitas and is to be presidential and disciplined

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candidate and to bring his party all together on one page.

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Is there a sense in terms of the polling that Donald Trump can become

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president? Well, the polling in some swing states remains close but in

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most states Hillary Clinton leads at least buy a little bit and that is

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reflective of the fact that she has led many commercials already against

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Donald Trump and he has yet to begin airing any television commercials

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against her so it may change as he goes up on air and the summer

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progresses and the general election starts but if the election were held

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today are certainly looks as though Hillary Clinton would win but a lot

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can happen between now and November. As you can see, a lot has happened

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already in the last few weeks so it is constantly changing in this race.

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What are you hearing about the speech, has there yet been any

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briefing about what he is going to say? Do the last few incidents

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actually matter? Have a dented his support?

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He certainly has to address it and talk about why Republicans are not

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choosing him and he hast to make his case to them about why they should

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support him. It will be focused around his campaign slogan which is

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make America a great again and it takes on the campaign slogan of

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Ronald Reagan which was let's make America a great again. He will talk

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about why America is not good and in the doldrums right now and the

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failure of leadership from Barack Obama and what that would mean and

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therefore Hillary Clinton as well because she was his secretary of

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state and he will talk about how he will take the country into a

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different path both in terms of his relations abroad and you saw that a

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little bit in his interview with the New York Times yesterday, talking

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about how he would re-evaluate Nato and a lot of our treaties which

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would certainly be a novel and a very new way of governing America.

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It is different from anything we have seen in the last few years, if

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ever. He will talk about the economic plan to bring jobs back to

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America so it will be a very sweeping speech and it is going to

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bring in all of the challenges and also all the strength that he has to

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overcome those challenges and his challenge here is really too sore

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and inspire and show people that he can be presidential and be a

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commander-in-chief and to lead. Thank you very much indeed. It will

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be very interesting in the few hours ahead.

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Don't forget you can get in touch with me on Twitter,

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website and a lot more details. Very difficult day here in the Newton

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Abbot I hope you are having a good day ever you are.

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