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This is BBC World News Today with me Geeta Guru-Murthy.


We have special live coverage of a news conference with Theresa May and


Francoise Arman. I speak in English about cooperation. Obviously we have


just talked about the issue of the invocation of article 50 and the


length of time and, as the president said, we both recognise the


importance of preparing for that so that the negotiations can be as


orderly and constructive as possible. We have had excellent


discussions, very constructive and very open discussions that I have


just had with President Francois Hollande and I look forward to


working with both him and Chancellor Angela Merkel in the future. I have


had very good working relations with my French counterparts as Home


Secretary both the previous interior minister and the current one and we


have always worked very openly and constructively in a way that is to


the benefit both countries and that is the spirit in which we will


continue to work together the future. I had very precise


information about Theresa May through both of the interior


ministers who told me how much they both appreciated the work conducted


jointly on very difficult issues that relate to our own security and


the fight against terrorism and controlling migrated -- migration


and how much France and UK have been able to achieve the necessary


compromise to deal with the most tricky human issues and I knew that


we would have a relationship. As to individuals and to countries it


would be commensurate with our history and the friendship between


us. On the issue of negotiations, it is not a matter of doing legally,


engaging in legalese, you can do it, how to proceed, it's really all


about having in mind the interest of our two countries and the interests


of Europe. It is true that tomorrow the UK will no longer be in the EU


but as the Prime Minister indicated the UK will still be in Europe.


Geographically, there is no doubt, politically to the destiny of Europe


will always be of interest to the UK as Europe will always be interested


by what the UK can achieve on a global scale, so the opening of the


negotiation to my mind must be consistent with our interests and


reduce as far as possible uncertainty, doubts and questions.


That is the sense of the French position. It is not possible to say


to the British people you voted, you must draw the conclusions from that


and you must, there must be a penalty applied to you in terms of


your boat. It is not up to us to judge. The British people have


decided. It has decided to leave the EU. Its freedom and its sovereignty


and we must draw the conclusions of that. It is possible to obtain from


the EU and from Francois Hollande both participation in the single


market and restricted freedom of movement for your country? Well, the


message that the British people gave in their vote for the UK to leave


the EU also had a very clear message that we should introduce some


controls to the movement of individuals from the countries in


the European Union into the UK and obviously it will be part of the


negotiations. I am clear that the government should deliver and will


deliver on that for the British people but we also want to get the


right deal on the trade in goods and services and I think this is


important, economically not just for the United Kingdom but for other


countries in the European Union as well. Obviously those matters will


be matters for the negotiation process that we go through in


determining the relationship for the UK with the European Union after


we've left. That is the point that will be the


subject of the negotiation. The UK today has access to the single


market because it respects the four freedoms. If it wishes to remain


within the single market it is its own decision to know how far it


would have to abide by the four freedoms. None can be separated from


the other, there cannot be freedom of movement of goods, free movement


of capital, free movement of services if there isn't a free


movement of people. With David Cameron, prior to the referendum,


there had been a number of limited opt outs that in no way hindered


freedom of movement of people and it would be the choice facing the UK,


remain in the single market and then assume the free movement that goes


with it, or to have another status, that will be the subject of the


negotiation. Prime Minister, you suggested during the referendum that


the UK border controls in Calais could be in jeopardy of the UK voted


for Brexit and the French economy minister made a similar claim. This


is a question to you both, is that completely wrong, or is there still


any possibility at all that this agreement may be revisited? Well, we


have discussed the agreement and President Francois Hollande and the


interior minister have been very clear from their point of view that


they wish the agreement to stay. I want the agreement to stay and I


know there are those who are calling for it to go, there are those within


France who are calling for it to go. I believe it is an important


agreement. We have developed it in recent times and we have been


putting more resources to the security around the area and I am


grateful to the efforts that the French government have made in the


increased numbers of police that they have put in to Calais in order


to deal with issues around the juxtaposed controls there, from the


migrant camps. The agreement is of benefit, I believe, to both the


United Kingdom and France and I think we are both very clear,


Britain now having taken the decision to leave the EU, but we are


both very clear that this agreement should stay. The UK has never been


in the Schengen area, so it was necessary to have an agreement


between the UK and France, notably to address the issue of these


migrants, these refugees coming to the borders of France and the UK in


Calais and today is the Prime Minister indicated this agreement we


applied because it is useful to both our countries and it allows us to


address cases that otherwise would not be addressed and notably the


case of Minos and it is also the case that we could say to migrants


that they cannot come to Calais, there is no point coming to Calais,


because they won't be able to cross because the UK will not accept them


and the border security must be watertight so that there is no


crossing at the risk of their life. It is in the interest of these


people that we wanted to apply this agreement, let me remind you that it


is another government that did this and we consider it as our duty to


apply it and to apply it in the best spirit and also to improve it. Thank


you. Thank you very much. The press conferences just breaking up there


with the British Prime Minister Theresa May and Francois Hollande,


the French president. This is a special live coverage for BBC world


and the viewers here in the UK. Theresa May and Francois Hollande


started off by paying tribute, of course, to the victims and those who


lost loved ones in the Nice attack last week and they say the talks on


Brexit got off to a very positive start. Theresa May said that the


deal on British citizens living in the EU and French and other citizens


living in the UK, they hoped it would continue. President Francois


Hollande also said in terms of when Brexit should happen and in terms of


a deal, the sooner the better, because uncertainty is very


difficult. Also talking about the deal on Calais and is Theresa May


said that the French wanted the deal to continue. Some uncertainty here


about the status of that deal but both leaders basically were saying


that they had had a very positive and constructive opening to talks


but Francois Hollande said that if the UK wanted to stay in the single


market it needed to abide by all four freedoms, goods, capital and


services cannot continue if there is no freedom of movement for people.


We will now get some reaction to that from the former political


editor of the French newspaper Liberation. Give us your thoughts on


this first public statement from the leaders. I thought that the reaction


and the attitude from President Francois Hollande was a little bit


more conciliatory tonight than it had been in previous statements,


including this morning in Ireland when he was visiting in Dublin. I


found that he added one small sentence when he said that article


50 should be started as soon as possible, he said, but I understand


that the newly formed British government needs time to prepare.


This is something that Angela Merkel said yesterday in Berlin, but the


French had not accepted this idea that Britain needed some time to


prepare before activating article 50 and I thought this was a little bit


more conciliatory than the official tough line that the French had put


before. Why do you think that is? Is it that the reality of meeting the


British leader and accepting that the opposition has got to be worked


through, because it is obviously incredibly complex, isn't it? I


think it is realistic. You cannot expect a massive negotiation such as


the one that will take place between the UK and the EU to be just


starting out of the blue and this is just plain realism. Also I think


President Francois: this trying to follow a thin line between looking


tough because he doesn't want to give the impression that it is easy


to leave the European Union, he doesn't want to show other countries


or French voters that this is something that can be done just


overnight and in an easy way because as you know there are temptations


elsewhere in Europe and in some sections of the French electorate to


follow what happened in the UK. That is one point, and the second one is


also that France is very keen, particularly one week after the Nice


terrorist attack, to keep strong friendship relations with the UK.


France and the UK have very strong the literary and intelligence and


police cooperation dealing with terrorism or the Middle East issue


and I think this is also very important at this stage, probably


more than just politicking. We're just looking at the leaders shaking


hands there and there were smiles and laughter at one point from


Theresa May. I don't know what you thought of the body language. Had


you think they got on? We saw Theresa May paying very warm tribute


to the interior ministers and she said she had had an excellent


relationship with them because she was the Home Secretary in Britain


until a week ago. There was a lot of mutual tribute and also some light


moments when Francois Hollande said that he had been improved by the


interior ministers that she was somebody they could work with and


that he could probably work with as well. I think they made their best


to show a nice picture, some understanding but deep down the


positions remain quite far apart. Many thanks indeed for your time. Of


course both leaders did talk about the Nice attack at the start of that


press conference. Today we heard more on that. The man who murdered


those people down in the attack could helpers and it had been


planned for months. This is according to the French prosecutor.


Mr Molins said the investigation so far showed that the attacker


Mohammed Bouhlel had plotted the attack for months


From the investigation, based on those various photographs,


it appears that Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel had


premeditated his criminal attack several months before


Some of the contacts of previous weeks and


months with the individuals individuals that are appearing


before the court today are confirming this theory.


Let's speak to our Paris correspondent Lucy Williamson.


What more did we learn about the Nice attack?


We learned that when investigators went through the phone of Mohammed


Bouhlel and other places they found evidence that the interior minister


had thought might be that of evidence of radicalisation. There


where text messages between Mohammed Bouhlel and one of his suspected


accomplices that describe them as the soldiers of Allah, which seemed


to support the attacks on the offices of Charlie Hebdo here last


year and really supported the theory that some in the government had put


forward, that Mohammed Bouhlel might have been very quickly radicalised


and now the big question is, this group of accomplices, if it turns


out that they are indeed implicated in this attack, what sort of role do


they have in the wider jihadist network, how plugged in was this


group to those wider links for the jihadist network around the world?


We saw the response of people in Nice just a few days ago to the


French government, the feeling of a loss of control in France, can they


trust their security services? What is the mood now with these new


revelations coming out? Of course it is quite recent, these


new revelations, but I think it will turn the pressure up on the


government even more. You will remember at that time when the Prime


Minister turned up on the promenade in Neath and was booed by the crowd,


it wasn't really known what caused the attack and now there is more


evidence suggesting there is a group with a more violent Islamist and


jihadist motivation and if that turns that to be true the government


will come under even more pressure, far more than if it were perhaps


just a random attack. I do have to say that the mood in France after


each one of the major attacks here, and there have been three now, has


been slightly different. After the Charlie Hebdo attacks in January


2015, that sense of real unity, of the country pulling together in


grief as disintegrated to a large degree and people are very angry and


divided and a lot of people are criticising the government for not


being tough in terms of what it does to prevent attacks like this.


Thank you very much indeed. We will move now to the United


convention in Cleveland, Ohio which hasn't been short of drama.


Former Presidential hopeful Ted Cruz was booed off stage yesterday


after he refused to endorse Donald Trump, while Mr Trump has


himself come under fire for comments regarding NATO.


Our correspondent Gary O'Donoghue joins us now from Cleveland, Ohio.


it has been an extraordinary few hours.


Yes it is one of the things that keeps giving. We had Ted Cruz here


in the wall last night refusing to endorse Donald Trump and getting


roundly brewed offstage for doing that. This morning he has been


giving some explanation about what he's thinking was an effectively he


said he was not going to be a servile puppy dog to people who


disrespected not just his wife, but his father as well. Here he is


speaking at a Republican breakfast this morning.


I'm not going to get into criticising or attacking Donald


Trump but I'll just give you this response.


I am not in the habit of


supporting people who attack my wife and attack my father.


And that pledge was not a blanket commitment that if


you go and slander and attack Heidi that I'm going to nonetheless


come like a servile puppy dog and say thank you very much


for maligning my wife and maligning my father.


And for those who have forgotten, those attacks, effectively he


accused, Donald Trump accused the father of Ted Cruz about being


involved in the assassination of Ted Kennedy and he also suggested that


his wife was not very good looking, so pretty personal stuff. Later


today we will have Donald Trump in the all behind me giving his keynote


speech become pension, a much bigger speech than he is used to giving


previously and it will be along the speech and more structured. We hope


to hear more detail and more predations -- positions that out


more clearly and notably we will see if there is a reference to the idea


that Nato might not be able to rely on the United States to come to the


aid of individual countries if they don't pay their dues and he has been


setting that out this morning but it is a very big moment for him here in


the arena. Brazilian police have arrested ten


people who were allegedly planning a terrorist attack during next


month's Olympic Games The arrests occurred


in the border state of Parana, which borders Paraguay,


from where members of the group were Police say the group is sympathetic


to the so-called Islamic State. This is tagged man and a warrant for


further two who have been arrested in the southern state of Parana,


which is significant because it is a pretty open border with Paraguay and


the allegation is that these people looked into the possibility of


getting weapons, particularly AK-47 assault rifles from Paraguay into


Brazil. The group been communicating with each other over Internet terror


of -- Internet messaging services and they had celebrated, in the


words of the police, the recent attacks in France and there wasn't


enough information according to federal police here in Brazil to


suspect these men of being in the planning stages of a possible


attack. It is important to point out there is no specific information


about an attack, a target, but because of the heightened security


situation now in Rio and wider in the Brazil, with two weeks to go


until the Olympic Games, the authorities are on an increased


alert level which was increased again after the recent attacks and


there have been lots of information and allegations across the web that


an attack was imminent but the authorities are very clear to point


out they have no specific evidence of an attack but this group of men,


some of whom were known personally to each other and others had met


over the Internet, were in the preparatory stages of planning an


attack. Back to the Republican convention


now, Jay Newton-Small is TIME Magazine's Washington correspondent


and she joins me now Our news bulletin here in the UK is


really dominated by so many unsettled events right around the


globe so the leadership of the United States seems never more


important. We will see Donald Trump today, but he has had a very


extraordinary last few hours, first of all the Ted Cruz incident. Talk


us through the significance of that and the prospects of unifying the


Republicans? It is an incredibly important speech were Donald Trump,


perhaps the most important of his life because two out of the last


three days zone party at his own convention has been split over


whether or not they want him as the nominee. He is yet to solidify his


hold on the Republican party which makes it incredibly difficult to


take on Hillary Clinton without the full backing of the party behind


him. With the world being in such chaos and turmoil, with attacks


happening all over the place, people are looking to America for


leadership and they are looking to Donald Trump tonight to get a sense


of gravitas and is to be presidential and disciplined


candidate and to bring his party all together on one page.


Is there a sense in terms of the polling that Donald Trump can become


president? Well, the polling in some swing states remains close but in


most states Hillary Clinton leads at least buy a little bit and that is


reflective of the fact that she has led many commercials already against


Donald Trump and he has yet to begin airing any television commercials


against her so it may change as he goes up on air and the summer


progresses and the general election starts but if the election were held


today are certainly looks as though Hillary Clinton would win but a lot


can happen between now and November. As you can see, a lot has happened


already in the last few weeks so it is constantly changing in this race.


What are you hearing about the speech, has there yet been any


briefing about what he is going to say? Do the last few incidents


actually matter? Have a dented his support?


He certainly has to address it and talk about why Republicans are not


choosing him and he hast to make his case to them about why they should


support him. It will be focused around his campaign slogan which is


make America a great again and it takes on the campaign slogan of


Ronald Reagan which was let's make America a great again. He will talk


about why America is not good and in the doldrums right now and the


failure of leadership from Barack Obama and what that would mean and


therefore Hillary Clinton as well because she was his secretary of


state and he will talk about how he will take the country into a


different path both in terms of his relations abroad and you saw that a


little bit in his interview with the New York Times yesterday, talking


about how he would re-evaluate Nato and a lot of our treaties which


would certainly be a novel and a very new way of governing America.


It is different from anything we have seen in the last few years, if


ever. He will talk about the economic plan to bring jobs back to


America so it will be a very sweeping speech and it is going to


bring in all of the challenges and also all the strength that he has to


overcome those challenges and his challenge here is really too sore


and inspire and show people that he can be presidential and be a


commander-in-chief and to lead. Thank you very much indeed. It will


be very interesting in the few hours ahead.


Don't forget you can get in touch with me on Twitter,


website and a lot more details. Very difficult day here in the Newton


Abbot I hope you are having a good day ever you are.


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