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This is BBC World News Today, with me, Karin Giannone.

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The official verdict - Flight MH17 was downed

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by an anti-aircraft missile, moved into Ukraine from Russia.

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The disaster in 2014 killed nearly 300 people: Russia dismisses

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We cannot accept as the final truth what they have said. We have not

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seen any proofs of their statement. Families of the 9/11 victims

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could now take legal action against the Saudi Government

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as President Obama's Also coming up: Tributes to one

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of the defining figures of Middle East politics -

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Israel's Shimon Peres - And English football

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is in chaos as misconduct leads the national team coach to leave

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after just one game. Two years after nearly 300

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people were killed over the skies of eastern Ukraine,

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a team of international prosecutors have provided evidence they say

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shows Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was downed by a missile

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that came from Russia. In a news conference

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in the Netherlands, they also narrowed down the area it was fired

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from to a field in a territory And they say they've established

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the identities of about 100 people Moscow and the rebel

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groups reject the claims, Caught in the crossfire

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of someone else's war, in busy skies that were meant

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to be safe. Nearly 300 people were on Flight

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MH17, 80 of them children. It was brought down

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by a Russian-built missile. Both sides in the war have them,

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but now criminal investigators say they are closing in

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on those responsible. TRANSLATION: On the 17th of July,

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Flight MH17 was shot It was brought in from

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the Russian Federation territory This recreation from investigators

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suggests the missile launcher crossed over the Russian border

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on the morning MH17 was shot down. Here is a tapped mobile

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phone call from 9:22am. An officer tells his commander,

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it crossed, crossed the line. The line he is talking

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about is the Russian border. There's no attempt to hide

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the launcher, which is sat Lots of people took

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pictures and films and put Here, it's parked up in a lay-by

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in the city of Donetsk. The final destination was a farmer's

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field which was near a town controlled by

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Russian-backed separatists. Firing left these scorch

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marks on the ground. Locals took pictures

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of the smoke trail. It is then filmed

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heading back to Russia. Crucially, one of its missiles

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is now missing. Moscow has always fought

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claims it is involved. We have been ruling out and I have

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been ruling out the fact that any Russian weapons were shipped

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to Ukraine, that any Russian Army members, any Russian troops

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were inside Ukraine. And we are still ruling

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out that possibility. Bryce Fredericks and his girlfriend,

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Daisy, were on board MH17, We are not there yet,

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we do not yet know the names Investigators say that they are

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down to 100 suspects Even if they do eventually name

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names, it is by no means certain that whoever did this will face

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a court of law. Michael Bociurkiw was one

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of the first people at the scene of the crash in his former role

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with the Organisation For Security We can speak to him now. Welcome.

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When you look at what was presented today, the linking up of the photos

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and videos, they intercepted phone calls, how meticulous do you believe

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this report to be? It is very meticulous, I am very struck by the

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meticulousness of the forensic work. The fact that witnesses from rebel

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held areas in the Ukraine came forward and talk to investigators

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and they were in prison for doing that. Also, when you think about the

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amount of evidence that has been retrieved from what everyone has

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caught the biggest crime scene in the world, something like 35% of the

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aircraft was moved back to the Netherlands, living containers of

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soil and body parts. Very interesting forensic work has been

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done. They found fragments of the missile in some of the bodies of the

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cockpit crew in the aircraft. I am also very struck as I watched the

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investigators, their confidence and baldness because if you remember

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going back to those first few days, they were relatively late coming

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into the Netherlands to investigate but with the access and more

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determination they were able to get there and collect the evidence quite

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quickly. We have this conclusive report that you see here. We have

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heard this today, but then we have the reaction of Russia, simply a

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refusal to accept this. They say it is politically motivated, where does

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this leave things when one party will not accept the findings?

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Clearly we are in the propaganda war and watching the press conference

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you can see what I would call some interesting questions to the Russian

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media. I expected that reaction from Russia. What came out today, saying

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that the mis-sell came from the Russian Federation and was returned

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there and fire from rebel held territory, that does not surprise me

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or any of my colleagues. The things that the families will be looking

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for is, if they're the willing contribution internationally to

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solve this? They did not say specifically hoodie. The individuals

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were behind this. They did not, but they said there was more work to be

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done. They also said they had more than enough evidence. This is quite

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surprising. It indicates to me that they can move forward with the

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prosecution but one more quick thing, I have returned from Ukraine

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and we heard there and the politicians from France telling us

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it was time to put sanctions against Russia, that leads me to think the

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political will will be present to pressure Russia to return suspect if

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they can find them. We are out of time, thank you very

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much. You can find more in-depth analysis

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of the flight MH17 disaster on our website, that includes maps and

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animations of what we know. Just head over to the BBC News website.

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"The most embarrassing action by lawmakers in years" -

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that's how the White House has reacted to a move to allow victims

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of the 9/11 attacks on America to take legal action

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It's the first time Congress has overridden President Obama's

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I urge my colleagues to move swiftly and soundly to reverse this veto so

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that these families can have their day in court. That is what the legal

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system of this country is designed to do. These families will never get

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back their loved ones. But they deserve justice.

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The BBC's Barbara Plett is in Washington.

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Strong words from the White House, bring us up to date as to what is

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happening there and why we have got here.

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Well, we have been having votes in Congress today, the Senate has voted

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and the house is voting now to override a veto of a bill that would

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allow the families of the 9/11 families to take Saudi Arabia to

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court, alleging that the government was complicit in the 911 attacks.

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This has been bubbling on for years, suspicions have been the and the

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investigations have been there but the families have not been able to

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take Saudi Arabia to court because of a principle called sovereign

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immunity that means that foreign companies are protected from certain

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lawsuits. That protects the US and is why President Obama is against

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this bill. He has said it is a matter of national security and if

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it becomes law then our officials are at risk overseas. We could be

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taken to court, we have a lot of special operations, CIA agents, the

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Nativity and lots of different countries, so it is something that

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could be a risk for us, that is what he says. He has backed his director

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and so on. As you heard from the congressman, the overriding feeling

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in Congress is sympathy for the 911 victims and the feeling that they

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deserve their day in court and Saudi Arabia is not guilty, it should not

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be worried but if it is, it be prosecuted. Because of that, it

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looks like this will be the first veto override for President Obama on

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something he considers quite serious. The final say in the end

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will be from Congress, not the President? That is correct. He can

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veto a bill but Congress can override that if it gets two thirds

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of the vote in both the Senate and the house. It got an overwhelming

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vote in the Senate today and it seems most likely that will be the

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case in the House. Thank you, Barbara, for bringing us up to date.

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We will continue to update you on developments as we get them.

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Now a look at some of the day's other news.

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The US has threatened to end Syrian peace talks with Russia,

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because of the military offensive against Aleppo.

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Secretary of Sate John Kerry says he holds Russia responsible

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for the situation there, including the use of

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The UN Secretary-General has described what's happening as "worse

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Thailand's military government has allowed a "culture of torture"

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to flourish since assuming power - that's according to a new report by

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It lists 74 alleged cases of torture and other ill-treatment,

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including methods such as beatings and waterboarding,

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The presidential debate between Hillary Clinton

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and Donald Trump was watched by 84 million people on US TV -

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breaking a previous record set 36 years ago.

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Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan's debate drew

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The viewing figures only count those who watched the debate on the US TV

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channels that carried it live, meaning the true figure

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World leaders have been paying tribute to the Israeli statesman

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and Nobel Peace Prize winner, Shimon Peres, who's

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He's been described as one of Israel's founding fathers,

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and twice served as prime minister and later as president.

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He'd been in hospital after suffering a stroke.

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Israel has lost the grandfather of the nation, born before the state,

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Shimon Peres was a key figure in the region,

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and on the world stage, where he was celebrated

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Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, among

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Shimon devoted his life to our nation and to

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the pursuit of peace, he set his gaze on the future,

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he did so much to protect our people.

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He worked to his last days for peace, and for a

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There was this reaction from the US Secretary of State, John Kerry.

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He dedicated his life to the cause of an Israel that would be safe

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And the homeland of the Jewish people.

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He was born in Poland in 1923 and came to the holy land as a child

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when it was still under British rule.

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He worked alongside Israel's founding father, negotiating deals

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that helped the new nation become a formidable military power.

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Shimon Peres was a driving force behind Israel's nuclear programme,

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and a supporter of Israeli settlements on occupied

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At the Israeli Parliament this evening, flags flying at half-mast,

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for the last of the generation who built the state.

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Shimon Peres was first elected to Parliament in 1959,

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and here, at the Knesset, for decades, he helped

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He held virtually every major post, and during his

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long years in politics, his political views changed.

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The man who was a security hawk became a champion of peace.

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Shimon Peres was one of the architects of the Oslo

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accords, Israel's first peace deal with the Palestinians,

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What we are doing today is more than signing an agreement.

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Yesterday, a dream, today, a commitment.

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He shared a Nobel Prize with the late Palestinian leader,

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Yasser Arafat, and the then Israeli Prime Minister,

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Today he was described as a partner for peace

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by the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, but others

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Everybody here remembers him as the man who lost the opportunity

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for real peace, by deceiving the Palestinians.

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And ending up deceiving the cause of peace.

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Supporters say that Shimon Peres wanted peace for the next

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generation, and kept working for it until his last days.

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He insisted there was no alternative.

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Without him, that view may be heard less often here.

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The life of President Shimon Peres mirrors the turbulent history

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The BBC's chief international correspondent, Lyse Doucet,

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met him three years ago as he turned 90.

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You can watch her interview with Mr Peres in a special Our World

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programme today on BBC World News, coming up in about

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As young people around the world are targeted by extremist groups,

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counter-terrorism efforts are also now focusing on youth.

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This week, hundreds of young leaders are joining forces with the likes

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of Kofi Annan and Bob Geldoff to try and prevent more people

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It's happening at the One World Summit being held

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Bjorn Ihler is a survivor of the Anders Breivik terrorist

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attack which killed 77 people in Norway in 2011.

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Bjorn, firstly, your experience was by a lone wolf, it's not just

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terror groups being talked about here, is it?

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Could you tell us what happened to you? In 2011 and was attending the

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Labour youth summer camp and while I was there to meet friends and see

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how they were spending their summer application in the way they are

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supposed to be spent, a man named Anders Breivik came to attack the

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summer camp because he was a political opposer of the policies of

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integration and helping people of different backgrounds and Heidi Dem.

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This was a terrible experience and we heard a lot about it in the

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international news at the time. Do survive this, and you have tried to

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stop it from happening again, tell us more about what you are doing in

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Ottawa? I Amat the One World Summit with a union that is looking to work

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towards gathering young leaders from all over the planet to create a

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joint force against extremism everywhere. The experience of

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extremism, your attacker was not motivated by extremist Islam but by

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right-wing ideology, is there a similarity between the ways that you

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would tackle both of these? There is a massive similarity between all

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forms of extremism, all forms of extreme is as I understand that are

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about to nine diversity and the right of difference to exist within

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the community, whether that is Islamic extremism or far right

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extremism, it is about eliminating those who are different from those

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who are extreme in our society. Because of the similarities on that

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and similarities in how people are being recruited to these movements

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and how we can help people leave these movements. You went through an

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experience where you survived by centimetres, the bullet missed you

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by centimetres but you are still here today, do you think what you

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have been through helps you give weight to this movement, to try to

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stop extremism taking root in the lives of young people? I think my

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experience helps to give me wait but the movement is more than about just

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the survivors, it is about the fact that we all have a role to play in

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fighting extremism in our communities and one of the things

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that is defining about Anders Breivik is that he came from the

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committee not to different to the one that I came from but we were on

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the other end of this gun when he was firing at us. He had a

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background that was not so different from mine and that fact that

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something we should carry with us, the fact that these people are

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coming from our communities and our neighbourhoods and we have to start

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at home, we have to start with our own neighbourhoods to solve and

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fight extremism worldwide. Thank you Bjorn Ihler, we wish you all the

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best that the One World Summit in Ottawa, Canada.

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One of the biggest jobs in world football is up for grabs

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after Sam Allardyce was forced to step down as England's manager.

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It was only a couple of months ago he said that he was "so proud"

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to get the position, but after revelations

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in a British newspaper, Mr Allardyce is now out of a job.

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Undercover reporters from the Daily Telegraph claiming

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to be businessmen recorded him giving advice on how to get around

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The paper also said Allardyce - despite earning an England salary

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of around $4 million - cashed in on his position to agree

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in principle to a ?400,000 public-speaking deal.

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Here's what happened after the undercover reporters put

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Sam Allardyce has said that he regrets his comments

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but he also accused the Daily Telegraph of entrapment.

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It's not just an embarrassment for Allardyce - who spent only 67

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days and one game in the job - but also for the Football

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Association that overseas the game in England.

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With me now is European football writer Paolo Bandini.

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He writes for The Guardian newspaper.

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Paolo Bandini, it was Alan Shearer who said when Ms Newman -- news came

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out that England is now the laughing stock of world football, what do you

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think about that? I think that is slightly over egging it but there is

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certainly a degree of that going on in other foreign countries. We have

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a tendency to look at other nations, the likes of Italy and Spain which

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gets accused of cheating, we talk about the match fixing scandals that

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have happened there. Certainly some Italian newspapers had quite

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explicit eyebrow raising at the oasis of calm, the rich kids of

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England have these problems as well. It has been noted abroad and some

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people are slightly enjoying it, no doubt. Do you think that this event,

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the scandal would have had the same impact in the likes of Spain or

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Italy? You can look at Italy, for instance, the current president of

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the Italian football Federation was elected to his position despite in

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the build-up to his election making quite crass racial comments, he

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talked about banana heaters and for dating Italian football. Many

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Italians were shocked by this but he was still able to get his position.

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Some of those people do not have the position of a moral authority to

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make such a statement. -- banana heaters. The fact that the British

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Premier League is regarded very highly in comparison to the national

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side's performance, how does that economy develop? Sam Allardyce was

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something like the 50s best played football manager in the world. It

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still holds a certain attraction because of that. England is the

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birthplace of football, many people will look to it. It has the richest

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week by a good mile and the world. It has more money, twice the amount

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of money than you next week. There is the glamour attraction and the

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historical attraction to the job. But on the pitch, England national

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team has not lived up to the expectations. Whenever we have the

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election process for an England manager, there are always holds that

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1966 will happen again. Any chance of that happening soon? It is not

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because of a lack of talent, that is by foreign manager stole the show an

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interest in this job. But at the moment the FA seems to want to go

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back to having an English manager, that was why they chose Sam

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Allardyce. There is not a whole range of options so it is not feel

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like an inspiring moment to take the job and to be aiming for winning a

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big trophy again. Paolo Bandini, thank you very much indeed.

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Tasting regional delicacies is a well worn ritual of royal tours

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and for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, the latest

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day of their Canada tour was no different.

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This time it was wine-tasting with a touch of historical culture,

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as our royal correspondent Peter Hunt reports.

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The Royals are learning first hand about Canada's at times

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difficult relationship with its indigenous population.

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One leader boycotted this event and has accused the Government

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of failing to keep its promises to his people.

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Popular acclaim, not politics, was on offer inside the sports

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hall at this University of British Columbia campus.

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The couple, who are passionate about sport, were treated

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Next stop on a tour that doesn't stop for long,

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a vineyard in the Okanagan Valley, where the region's food and drink

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Older Royals tend not to partake in public.

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Younger Royals have no such inhibitions.

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Fed, watered and headed north to Canada's Yukon Territory

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and a concert where the rhythm was infectious for a Duchess

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who wasn't stepping on her Prince's blue suede shoes.

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On this royal visit, William and Kate have seen some

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of what Canada has to offer and what it is proud

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of and its people are getting a chance, sometimes at close

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quarters, to see the future of the Canadian monarchy.

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They've swapped briefly their palace home for this vast and sparsely

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Now how many of you have been taking your wedding photos

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Sounds unlikely, but that's exactly what happened

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Their wedding day snaps were photo-bombed, by none

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The newlyweds Elizabeth and Ryan, were having pictures taken

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in Central Park when the actor, out for jog, said hello.

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Congratulating the couple, he even posed for pictures.

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posted it on Twitter. He was invited to the deception but he could not

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make it. Great memories. -- the reception.

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But for now, from me, Karin Giannone, and the rest

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Hello there, after some warmth today we've got gusty winds

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developing overnight, anywhere from North

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A deepening area of low pressure is approaching the North West

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of the UK and the strongest winds by Thursday morning are likely to be

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across the far North of England and into Scotland,

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widely 60 mph, perhaps more than that, and a lot of showers too.

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