28/09/2016 World News Today

This is BBC World News Today, with me, Karin Giannone.

The official verdict - Flight MH17 was downed

by an anti-aircraft missile, moved into Ukraine from Russia.

The disaster in 2014 killed nearly 300 people: Russia dismisses

We cannot accept as the final truth what they have said. We have not

seen any proofs of their statement. Families of the 9/11 victims

could now take legal action against the Saudi Government

as President Obama's Also coming up: Tributes to one

of the defining figures of Middle East politics -

Israel's Shimon Peres - And English football

is in chaos as misconduct leads the national team coach to leave

after just one game. Two years after nearly 300

people were killed over the skies of eastern Ukraine,

a team of international prosecutors have provided evidence they say

shows Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was downed by a missile

that came from Russia. In a news conference

in the Netherlands, they also narrowed down the area it was fired

from to a field in a territory And they say they've established

the identities of about 100 people Moscow and the rebel

groups reject the claims, Caught in the crossfire

of someone else's war, in busy skies that were meant

to be safe. Nearly 300 people were on Flight

MH17, 80 of them children. It was brought down

by a Russian-built missile. Both sides in the war have them,

but now criminal investigators say they are closing in

on those responsible. TRANSLATION: On the 17th of July,

Flight MH17 was shot It was brought in from

the Russian Federation territory This recreation from investigators

suggests the missile launcher crossed over the Russian border

on the morning MH17 was shot down. Here is a tapped mobile

phone call from 9:22am. An officer tells his commander,

it crossed, crossed the line. The line he is talking

about is the Russian border. There's no attempt to hide

the launcher, which is sat Lots of people took

pictures and films and put Here, it's parked up in a lay-by

in the city of Donetsk. The final destination was a farmer's

field which was near a town controlled by

Russian-backed separatists. Firing left these scorch

marks on the ground. Locals took pictures

of the smoke trail. It is then filmed

heading back to Russia. Crucially, one of its missiles

is now missing. Moscow has always fought

claims it is involved. We have been ruling out and I have

been ruling out the fact that any Russian weapons were shipped

to Ukraine, that any Russian Army members, any Russian troops

were inside Ukraine. And we are still ruling

out that possibility. Bryce Fredericks and his girlfriend,

Daisy, were on board MH17, We are not there yet,

we do not yet know the names Investigators say that they are

down to 100 suspects Even if they do eventually name

names, it is by no means certain that whoever did this will face

a court of law. Michael Bociurkiw was one

of the first people at the scene of the crash in his former role

with the Organisation For Security We can speak to him now. Welcome.

When you look at what was presented today, the linking up of the photos

and videos, they intercepted phone calls, how meticulous do you believe

this report to be? It is very meticulous, I am very struck by the

meticulousness of the forensic work. The fact that witnesses from rebel

held areas in the Ukraine came forward and talk to investigators

and they were in prison for doing that. Also, when you think about the

amount of evidence that has been retrieved from what everyone has

caught the biggest crime scene in the world, something like 35% of the

aircraft was moved back to the Netherlands, living containers of

soil and body parts. Very interesting forensic work has been

done. They found fragments of the missile in some of the bodies of the

cockpit crew in the aircraft. I am also very struck as I watched the

investigators, their confidence and baldness because if you remember

going back to those first few days, they were relatively late coming

into the Netherlands to investigate but with the access and more

determination they were able to get there and collect the evidence quite

quickly. We have this conclusive report that you see here. We have

heard this today, but then we have the reaction of Russia, simply a

refusal to accept this. They say it is politically motivated, where does

this leave things when one party will not accept the findings?

Clearly we are in the propaganda war and watching the press conference

you can see what I would call some interesting questions to the Russian

media. I expected that reaction from Russia. What came out today, saying

that the mis-sell came from the Russian Federation and was returned

there and fire from rebel held territory, that does not surprise me

or any of my colleagues. The things that the families will be looking

for is, if they're the willing contribution internationally to

solve this? They did not say specifically hoodie. The individuals

were behind this. They did not, but they said there was more work to be

done. They also said they had more than enough evidence. This is quite

surprising. It indicates to me that they can move forward with the

prosecution but one more quick thing, I have returned from Ukraine

and we heard there and the politicians from France telling us

it was time to put sanctions against Russia, that leads me to think the

political will will be present to pressure Russia to return suspect if

they can find them. We are out of time, thank you very

much. You can find more in-depth analysis

of the flight MH17 disaster on our website, that includes maps and

animations of what we know. Just head over to the BBC News website.

"The most embarrassing action by lawmakers in years" -

that's how the White House has reacted to a move to allow victims

of the 9/11 attacks on America to take legal action

It's the first time Congress has overridden President Obama's

I urge my colleagues to move swiftly and soundly to reverse this veto so

that these families can have their day in court. That is what the legal

system of this country is designed to do. These families will never get

back their loved ones. But they deserve justice.

The BBC's Barbara Plett is in Washington.

Strong words from the White House, bring us up to date as to what is

happening there and why we have got here.

Well, we have been having votes in Congress today, the Senate has voted

and the house is voting now to override a veto of a bill that would

allow the families of the 9/11 families to take Saudi Arabia to

court, alleging that the government was complicit in the 911 attacks.

This has been bubbling on for years, suspicions have been the and the

investigations have been there but the families have not been able to

take Saudi Arabia to court because of a principle called sovereign

immunity that means that foreign companies are protected from certain

lawsuits. That protects the US and is why President Obama is against

this bill. He has said it is a matter of national security and if

it becomes law then our officials are at risk overseas. We could be

taken to court, we have a lot of special operations, CIA agents, the

Nativity and lots of different countries, so it is something that

could be a risk for us, that is what he says. He has backed his director

and so on. As you heard from the congressman, the overriding feeling

in Congress is sympathy for the 911 victims and the feeling that they

deserve their day in court and Saudi Arabia is not guilty, it should not

be worried but if it is, it be prosecuted. Because of that, it

looks like this will be the first veto override for President Obama on

something he considers quite serious. The final say in the end

will be from Congress, not the President? That is correct. He can

veto a bill but Congress can override that if it gets two thirds

of the vote in both the Senate and the house. It got an overwhelming

vote in the Senate today and it seems most likely that will be the

case in the House. Thank you, Barbara, for bringing us up to date.

We will continue to update you on developments as we get them.

Now a look at some of the day's other news.

The US has threatened to end Syrian peace talks with Russia,

because of the military offensive against Aleppo.

Secretary of Sate John Kerry says he holds Russia responsible

for the situation there, including the use of

The UN Secretary-General has described what's happening as "worse

Thailand's military government has allowed a "culture of torture"

to flourish since assuming power - that's according to a new report by

It lists 74 alleged cases of torture and other ill-treatment,

including methods such as beatings and waterboarding,

The presidential debate between Hillary Clinton

and Donald Trump was watched by 84 million people on US TV -

breaking a previous record set 36 years ago.

Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan's debate drew

The viewing figures only count those who watched the debate on the US TV

channels that carried it live, meaning the true figure

World leaders have been paying tribute to the Israeli statesman

and Nobel Peace Prize winner, Shimon Peres, who's

He's been described as one of Israel's founding fathers,

and twice served as prime minister and later as president.

He'd been in hospital after suffering a stroke.

Israel has lost the grandfather of the nation, born before the state,

Shimon Peres was a key figure in the region,

and on the world stage, where he was celebrated

Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, among

Shimon devoted his life to our nation and to

the pursuit of peace, he set his gaze on the future,

he did so much to protect our people.

He worked to his last days for peace, and for a

There was this reaction from the US Secretary of State, John Kerry.

He dedicated his life to the cause of an Israel that would be safe

And the homeland of the Jewish people.

He was born in Poland in 1923 and came to the holy land as a child

when it was still under British rule.

He worked alongside Israel's founding father, negotiating deals

that helped the new nation become a formidable military power.

Shimon Peres was a driving force behind Israel's nuclear programme,

and a supporter of Israeli settlements on occupied

At the Israeli Parliament this evening, flags flying at half-mast,

for the last of the generation who built the state.

Shimon Peres was first elected to Parliament in 1959,

and here, at the Knesset, for decades, he helped

He held virtually every major post, and during his

long years in politics, his political views changed.

The man who was a security hawk became a champion of peace.

Shimon Peres was one of the architects of the Oslo

accords, Israel's first peace deal with the Palestinians,

What we are doing today is more than signing an agreement.

Yesterday, a dream, today, a commitment.

He shared a Nobel Prize with the late Palestinian leader,

Yasser Arafat, and the then Israeli Prime Minister,

Today he was described as a partner for peace

by the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, but others

Everybody here remembers him as the man who lost the opportunity

for real peace, by deceiving the Palestinians.

And ending up deceiving the cause of peace.

Supporters say that Shimon Peres wanted peace for the next

generation, and kept working for it until his last days.

He insisted there was no alternative.

Without him, that view may be heard less often here.

The life of President Shimon Peres mirrors the turbulent history

The BBC's chief international correspondent, Lyse Doucet,

met him three years ago as he turned 90.

You can watch her interview with Mr Peres in a special Our World

programme today on BBC World News, coming up in about

As young people around the world are targeted by extremist groups,

counter-terrorism efforts are also now focusing on youth.

This week, hundreds of young leaders are joining forces with the likes

of Kofi Annan and Bob Geldoff to try and prevent more people

It's happening at the One World Summit being held

Bjorn Ihler is a survivor of the Anders Breivik terrorist

attack which killed 77 people in Norway in 2011.

Bjorn, firstly, your experience was by a lone wolf, it's not just

terror groups being talked about here, is it?

Could you tell us what happened to you? In 2011 and was attending the

Labour youth summer camp and while I was there to meet friends and see

how they were spending their summer application in the way they are

supposed to be spent, a man named Anders Breivik came to attack the

summer camp because he was a political opposer of the policies of

integration and helping people of different backgrounds and Heidi Dem.

This was a terrible experience and we heard a lot about it in the

international news at the time. Do survive this, and you have tried to

stop it from happening again, tell us more about what you are doing in

Ottawa? I Amat the One World Summit with a union that is looking to work

towards gathering young leaders from all over the planet to create a

joint force against extremism everywhere. The experience of

extremism, your attacker was not motivated by extremist Islam but by

right-wing ideology, is there a similarity between the ways that you

would tackle both of these? There is a massive similarity between all

forms of extremism, all forms of extreme is as I understand that are

about to nine diversity and the right of difference to exist within

the community, whether that is Islamic extremism or far right

extremism, it is about eliminating those who are different from those

who are extreme in our society. Because of the similarities on that

and similarities in how people are being recruited to these movements

and how we can help people leave these movements. You went through an

experience where you survived by centimetres, the bullet missed you

by centimetres but you are still here today, do you think what you

have been through helps you give weight to this movement, to try to

stop extremism taking root in the lives of young people? I think my

experience helps to give me wait but the movement is more than about just

the survivors, it is about the fact that we all have a role to play in

fighting extremism in our communities and one of the things

that is defining about Anders Breivik is that he came from the

committee not to different to the one that I came from but we were on

the other end of this gun when he was firing at us. He had a

background that was not so different from mine and that fact that

something we should carry with us, the fact that these people are

coming from our communities and our neighbourhoods and we have to start

at home, we have to start with our own neighbourhoods to solve and

fight extremism worldwide. Thank you Bjorn Ihler, we wish you all the

best that the One World Summit in Ottawa, Canada.

One of the biggest jobs in world football is up for grabs

after Sam Allardyce was forced to step down as England's manager.

It was only a couple of months ago he said that he was "so proud"

to get the position, but after revelations

in a British newspaper, Mr Allardyce is now out of a job.

Undercover reporters from the Daily Telegraph claiming

to be businessmen recorded him giving advice on how to get around

The paper also said Allardyce - despite earning an England salary

of around $4 million - cashed in on his position to agree

in principle to a ?400,000 public-speaking deal.

Here's what happened after the undercover reporters put

Sam Allardyce has said that he regrets his comments

but he also accused the Daily Telegraph of entrapment.

It's not just an embarrassment for Allardyce - who spent only 67

days and one game in the job - but also for the Football

Association that overseas the game in England.

With me now is European football writer Paolo Bandini.

He writes for The Guardian newspaper.

Paolo Bandini, it was Alan Shearer who said when Ms Newman -- news came

out that England is now the laughing stock of world football, what do you

think about that? I think that is slightly over egging it but there is

certainly a degree of that going on in other foreign countries. We have

a tendency to look at other nations, the likes of Italy and Spain which

gets accused of cheating, we talk about the match fixing scandals that

have happened there. Certainly some Italian newspapers had quite

explicit eyebrow raising at the oasis of calm, the rich kids of

England have these problems as well. It has been noted abroad and some

people are slightly enjoying it, no doubt. Do you think that this event,

the scandal would have had the same impact in the likes of Spain or

Italy? You can look at Italy, for instance, the current president of

the Italian football Federation was elected to his position despite in

the build-up to his election making quite crass racial comments, he

talked about banana heaters and for dating Italian football. Many

Italians were shocked by this but he was still able to get his position.

Some of those people do not have the position of a moral authority to

make such a statement. -- banana heaters. The fact that the British

Premier League is regarded very highly in comparison to the national

side's performance, how does that economy develop? Sam Allardyce was

something like the 50s best played football manager in the world. It

still holds a certain attraction because of that. England is the

birthplace of football, many people will look to it. It has the richest

week by a good mile and the world. It has more money, twice the amount

of money than you next week. There is the glamour attraction and the

historical attraction to the job. But on the pitch, England national

team has not lived up to the expectations. Whenever we have the

election process for an England manager, there are always holds that

1966 will happen again. Any chance of that happening soon? It is not

because of a lack of talent, that is by foreign manager stole the show an

interest in this job. But at the moment the FA seems to want to go

back to having an English manager, that was why they chose Sam

Allardyce. There is not a whole range of options so it is not feel

like an inspiring moment to take the job and to be aiming for winning a

big trophy again. Paolo Bandini, thank you very much indeed.

Tasting regional delicacies is a well worn ritual of royal tours

and for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, the latest

day of their Canada tour was no different.

This time it was wine-tasting with a touch of historical culture,

as our royal correspondent Peter Hunt reports.

The Royals are learning first hand about Canada's at times

difficult relationship with its indigenous population.

One leader boycotted this event and has accused the Government

of failing to keep its promises to his people.

Popular acclaim, not politics, was on offer inside the sports

hall at this University of British Columbia campus.

The couple, who are passionate about sport, were treated

Next stop on a tour that doesn't stop for long,

a vineyard in the Okanagan Valley, where the region's food and drink

Older Royals tend not to partake in public.

Younger Royals have no such inhibitions.

Fed, watered and headed north to Canada's Yukon Territory

and a concert where the rhythm was infectious for a Duchess

who wasn't stepping on her Prince's blue suede shoes.

On this royal visit, William and Kate have seen some

of what Canada has to offer and what it is proud

of and its people are getting a chance, sometimes at close

quarters, to see the future of the Canadian monarchy.

They've swapped briefly their palace home for this vast and sparsely

Now how many of you have been taking your wedding photos

Sounds unlikely, but that's exactly what happened

Their wedding day snaps were photo-bombed, by none

The newlyweds Elizabeth and Ryan, were having pictures taken

in Central Park when the actor, out for jog, said hello.

Congratulating the couple, he even posed for pictures.

posted it on Twitter. He was invited to the deception but he could not

make it. Great memories. -- the reception.

But for now, from me, Karin Giannone, and the rest

Hello there, after some warmth today we've got gusty winds

developing overnight, anywhere from North

A deepening area of low pressure is approaching the North West

of the UK and the strongest winds by Thursday morning are likely to be

across the far North of England and into Scotland,

widely 60 mph, perhaps more than that, and a lot of showers too.