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So many years I wondered what I'd do if I ever saw him again | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
and then I did, in a photo, in a briefing room | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
and I was being sent to meet him with a gun. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
This programme contains some strong language | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
and scenes which some viewers may find upsetting. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
I don't think we should close | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
the investigation into Danny Waldron's background. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
I'd like to keep digging. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
What's he saying? | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
This man's a young Ronan Murphy, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
a suspect shot by Daniel Waldron during Operation Damson. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
What, they knew each other? | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
Did you fabricate the improper relations between you | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
-and Detective Sergeant Arnott? -No. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
-Did you fabricate the planting of evidence against you? -No. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
What is your verdict? | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
Not guilty. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
It is with deep regret that I inform you all | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
of the death of PC Rod Kennedy. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
Hari initiated the struggle with that gun | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
and it's only his word for it that it was self-defence. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
I owe you an apology for the other night. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
Your, erm, dinner invitation. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
-You're a married man. -This is it. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
I think Danny Waldron purposely created a trail of evidence | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
and now we're on the trail of the other abusers. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
Dale Roach. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:21 | |
He was leader of the city council during the period Danny Waldron | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
and Joe Nash were residents at Sands View. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
The things that he did to us at Sands View... | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
I promise you, I will get these bastards. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
Bains killed Danny. I'll lay you evens he killed Kennedy as well. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
-Hello? -'You're being fitted up for murdering Rod Kennedy.' | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
If you want a way out, you'll listen to me. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
Did he ever mention any other names? Politicians? Coppers? | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
Single-handedly brings in an AFO. Well done. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
PHONES RING | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
LINDSAY DENTON: 'I'd just like to get on with my life.' | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
Miss Denton. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
I'm Gill Bigelow, legal counsel to AC-12. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
I imagine they keep you VERY busy. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
Have a seat. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
You know Superintendent Hastings. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
I do. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
As part of a new initiative, christened Truth and Reconciliation, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
following a miscarriage of justice, parties are invited to | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
engage in dialogue to initiate the healing process. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
There seems to be an oversight. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
Some of the officers involved in my wrongful conviction are missing. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
Superintendent Hastings, as senior investigating officer, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
represents the whole team. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
Well, I want them here | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
or this new box you need to tick, just, well... | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
..won't get ticked. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
(God, give me strength!) | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
Thank you. It wouldn't have been the same without you. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
Miss Denton, on behalf of this department | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
and this constabulary, I offer you a sincere | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
and unconditional apology for your wrongful conviction | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
in respect of the offence of conspiracy to murder. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
Ted? | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
Er, as the senior investigating officer, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
I acknowledge your feelings regarding your conviction. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
WRONGFUL conviction, and you haven't actually said sorry. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Maybe you'll do better, DS Arnott. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
You require me to sign off that I accept your apology. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
I won't, unless it comes from the officers who wronged me. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
You're out. What more do you want? | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
An...apology. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
(Jesus Christ!) | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
This isn't going very well at all, is it? | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
Ted? | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
As senior investigating officer, I apologise for your conviction. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:10 | |
You omitted "wrongful" but, thank you, that's very gracious. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
DS Arnott? We're all waiting. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
Your allegation that I planted incriminating evidence against you | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
is false. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Point of information - I've made two allegations. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
One, you engaged in inappropriate sexual relations | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
whilst on an undercover operation. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:33 | |
And, two, you planted £50,000 to simulate a bribe. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
-And it's all crap! -Steve. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
Really? Do tell. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
Lindsay Denton knows our procedures inside out. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
She exploited doubts and grey areas to tie our investigation in knots. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
Oh, you did that all by yourself. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
First, DC Fleming's failed undercover operation and then yours. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
-I didn't do too badly. You ended up in prison. -And we didn't fail. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
We got you convicted. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
But you know sexual misconduct by undercover officers is a hot | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
topic so you invented this story about us going to bed together | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
so the jury sees you as a wronged woman. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
They obviously felt that I must have shagged you into conspiring | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
-to murder a protected witness. -Stephen! | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
Thank you, DS Arnott. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
I couldn't agree more that the question of your sexual integrity | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
quite rightly made the jury sceptical... | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
..but I've got a recording that will be of interest to you all. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
All right, then. This just isn't the time or the place. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
Now is exactly the time and exactly the place. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
Not in court, in a room full of rubberneckers and reporters, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
my pathetic private life laid out for everyone to laugh at, to pity. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
I couldn't bear that. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
But to show you all what kind of officer got me | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
locked up for 585 miserable days, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
THAT I can live with. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
I've had my whole life put on trial | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
and now it's your turn. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
You've been charged and tried but the one person that refuses | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
to examine what you're accused of is you. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
I'm innocent. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
The question is - are you? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
This phone was next to the bed the entire time, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
although I can believe that you were too preoccupied to notice. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
Would you like me to, erm, play it for everyone? | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
DS Arnott? | 0:07:30 | 0:07:31 | |
No. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:34 | |
Christ sake, Steve. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
Well, I feel this meeting's been remarkably successful | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
and I'll be very happy to record, in writing, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
that it's been a healing process for all parties. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
I'd also prefer it | 0:07:54 | 0:07:55 | |
if you'd consider closing the matter of DS Arnott's sexual impropriety. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
I don't intend to make a statement of evidence. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
The people that actually did the crime that I was imprisoned for, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
they're still out there. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:07 | |
Superintendent, you uphold the integrity of the police service. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
If you held one iota of doubt about my conviction, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
no officer would be more troubled by that than you. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
No officer would do more to right that wrong. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
I plan to move on with my life. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
You won't move on, Steve, until you stop chasing me | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
and you start chasing your real enemies. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
For Christ's sake, son, what was in that phone?! | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
We've got to take that crap from her, sir? | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
You lied in court! You lied to your partner and you lied to me! | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
I didn't lie to you, sir, I just don't think it's appropriate | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
to discuss an officer's private life. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
I don't quiz you on yours. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
What do you mean by that? | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
-I'm a married man. -I know, sir. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
Anyway, it isn't private when it's bandied about in a court of law. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
What matters, sir, is whether I planted evidence. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
Are there any forensic anomalies in respect of the money | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
found at Denton's address? No. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
It matches the other bribe money. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:09 | |
Are the exhibit officer's records inaccurate or incomplete? | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
-That is NOT the issue! -It's completely the issue. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
I did not plant evidence. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
If... IF I'd had sex with Lindsay Denton, which I didn't, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
does that stop her being guilty? | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
Lindsay Denton has left the building. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
Steve Arnott should do the same. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
Discreditable conduct. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
Steve Arnott did not plant evidence. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
But it's OK to have a relationship with a suspect? | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
I can see how you feel about this, Ted. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
Why defend the indefensible? | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
Look, he can be an irritating wee gobshite when he wants to be, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
-I'll give you that. -I'll tell you why. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
Because you personally recruited him from counter-terrorism | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
and that means you having to admit your misjudgment. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Sorry, Ted, I intend to return to this conversation. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
Kate. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
Kate, wait, please. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
One time you told me Lindsay Denton had dirt on you. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
Remember what I said. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
Maybe there are some people who always tell the truth. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
-The rest of us choose our moments. -And that's what I had to do. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
To ensure evidence was put in front of a jury that would convict Lindsay | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-Denton of a crime we all know she committed. -But we don't know. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
The only person who really knows is Lindsay herself. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
We gather the evidence and the people decide and they've decided | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
she didn't do it cos you couldn't keep it in your pants! | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
-That's not what happened. -What happened? | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
It was an undercover operation in which | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
I nurtured the trust of the target. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:56 | |
That is straight out of the manual and total bollocks. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
-You shagged her because you wanted to. -I didn't shag her. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Do you know what, Steve? This is all a bit too late. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
You should have told me the truth, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
given me the chance to work with you on this. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
That's what partners do. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
For the tape, image 313 is a photograph of item reference NTW-7. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
Said item is a rope found hanging from an overhead support. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
Detective Inspector Cottan has given us a statement where you | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
attempted to overpower him with the intent of causing death by hanging. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
The exact same means as PC Rod Kennedy. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
I didn't murder Rod and I absolutely didn't attempt to murder DI Cottan. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
In fact, DI Cottan set me up. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
He set you up?! | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
Yeah, Cottan smashed himself in the face to make it look like I hit him | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
but I didn't. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
As far as the rope goes, he must have planted it there beforehand. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
-He'll say anything to save his own skin. -Yeah. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
And why would an officer of mine do such a thing, eh? | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
To frame me for Rod's murder. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
Do you have anything to support these claims against DI Cottan? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
I mean, anything at all? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
For the tape, the interviewee is offering no supporting evidence. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
Moving on. DS Arnott. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
For the tape, image 291, item reference MR-3 | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
and image 292, item reference MR-4. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
MR-3 and 4 are mobile phones. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
A Section 18 search of your property recovered | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
a pair of unregistered pay-as-you-go phones concealed in the garage. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
Document 16, analysis of activity on these phones reveals they made | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
and received calls within the telecommunications cell | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
that covers your home address. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
Three nights before the murder of Danny Waldron, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
a call was received by one of these phones. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Who called you? | 0:13:49 | 0:13:50 | |
No comment. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:53 | |
Document 16 again. The night before Danny Waldron's murder. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
-Another call. -Who called you that night? | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
Calls of a suspicious nature were made shortly before you | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
volunteered to continue serving on Danny Waldron's squad | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
and before you murdered him. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
Who made those calls and what did they ask you to do? | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
For the tape, the interviewee is not answering. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
This pattern of communication, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
unregistered pay-as-you-go phones used for a short period | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
then discarded, is one we all recognise from organised crime. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
Who's got you in their pocket? | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
Nobody. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
Hari, we have you receiving phone calls linked to Danny's murder. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
We have you lobbying to stay on Danny's squad. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
We have your hands all over the firearm. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
We have you consistently lying about Danny's activities. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
We have a witness who says it was you who did all this | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
and not PC Rod Kennedy. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
We have you at the murder scene | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
and we have you in possession of the instruments of Kennedy's death. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
Now, that's about the height of it | 0:14:57 | 0:14:58 | |
and it's a great big pile of evidence | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
that is going to crush you flat. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
Now, come on... | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
..you killed Danny Waldron, yes or no? | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
Yeah. Yeah. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
Good. Now we're getting somewhere. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
We know you can't have been acting alone. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
Help us help you. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
Who gave the order to kill Danny Waldron? | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
Who was it? | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
It... | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
Come on, who was it? Who was it? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
You've got the bastard. Come on, talk. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
-He never gave me a name. -Who didn't? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
The bloke I always spoke to. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:54 | |
Sounded like it was a Londoner, south-east or summat. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
It was all done over the phone, wasn't it? | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
-I never met anyone, like. -You've got to know more. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
Times, places, other contacts. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
Look, someone's behind all this pulling the strings | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
and I want to know who it is. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
Ronan Murphy, the suspect killed by Danny Waldron, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
what do you know about him? | 0:16:21 | 0:16:22 | |
-Nothing. -They had history, Danny and him. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
That's news to me. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:27 | |
Danny shot Murphy and was going after Murphy's associates. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
They were the ones that wanted Danny dead. The job you did for them. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
I didn't know Murphy. I didn't know his associates. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
-I don't know why they wanted Danny dead. -Look, who's behind this? | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
What was Danny on to that meant you had to kill him? | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
You've nothing further to say? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
You've offered nothing new in this interview to mitigate you being | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
charged with the following offences. I therefore have the authority... | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
-Well, we got the bastard. -Yeah. They should throw away the key. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
..of PC Roderick Kennedy. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Two, the murder of PS Daniel Waldron | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
and, three, the attempted murder of DI Matthew Cottan. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Now, do you understand? | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
I've been doing more work on the Ronan Murphy file. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
There's a small entry, blink and you'd miss it, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
that he was interviewed by Murder Squad in relation to | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
unsolved gangland murders, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
but there's no details of the offences he was being linked to. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
Can't help you. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
How many times are we going to go over this? | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
Lindsay lied in court to con the jury. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Maybe you're thinking, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
"If he'd shag a suspect, who else is he going to shag?" | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
I can't help you because I've never heard of any Murder Squad | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
investigation into Ronan Murphy. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
If I had, don't you think I'd have bloody told you by now? | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
-TV: -'Still subject to delays due to overrunning engineering work...' | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
Bastards! | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
Making all your money, are you, eh? | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
You bunch of bleedin' twats! | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
WINDOW SMASHES | 0:18:57 | 0:18:58 | |
Eh! | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
You shitter! | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
You bunch of bastards! | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
SIRENS APPROACH | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
Oh, here they are. Come on then! | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
Great. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
They should rip it down. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
Smash every brick away. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
Joe, we've spoken to the officer handling your case. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
No-one's going to press charges. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
Those bastards. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
They're going to get away with what they done. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
You know I'm gutted Dale Roach is unfit to face prosecution. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
But, listen, Joe, we're looking into the complaints made by you | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
or Danny or any of the other lads to the police | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
about the abuse you were made to suffer by staff and visitors. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
Any police that came... | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
..they just talked to the staff. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
They were the bastards who were organising it in the first place... | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
..and anyone who talked about it, they just got it ten times worse. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
We're doing everything we can, but we still need your help, Joe. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
We're particularly interested in this man. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
Now, you identified him as a football coach. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
His name's Ronan Murphy. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
Did you, or anyone you know, ever make a complaint about him? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
Yeah, there was one time. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
A social worker. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
We did nothing. Nothing was done. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
-What social worker? -Just some posh twat. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
Posh to us, anyway. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
We need a name, Joe. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
Oliver Stephens-Lloyd, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
a registered social worker with responsibility at Sands View. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
He was a council employee around the time that Danny Waldron | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
and Joe Nash were residents. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
Only record found so far is of a disciplinary hearing accusing | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
Stephens-Lloyd of dealing cannabis to the residents. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
Stephens-Lloyd denied the charges and insisted he was being | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
victimised because he tried to raise concerns about abuse at Sands View. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
All other records have been lost. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
Variously reported destroyed in a fire or lost in an office move. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
The tribunal report's existence is probably | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
an oversight by whoever has been destroying records. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
All we have so far is Stephens-Lloyd alleging that a number | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
of individuals, many of whom are in positions of authority, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
were part of a network of abusers. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
He referred to compiling a list of names that he | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
passed on to the police but it appears none of | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
Stephens-Lloyd's allegations were investigated. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
And regarding this list and the officer it was passed to? | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
-No record. -No record. -We'll keep looking. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
-Find this social worker. -Sir. -Sir. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
Terrific presentation, guys. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
Honestly, really terrific. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
Steve, before Danny died, he tried to say something. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
I thought he said "listen" and then couldn't get any more words out. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
Now I reckon what he said was "list". | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
Cheers, Kate. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
Maneet, the evidence recovered from Danny Waldron's flat. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
-Er, yeah. -The empty envelope. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
Ronan Murphy was shot dead in the heat of the moment, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
but Linus, Danny had time with him, time to get information. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
Let's see. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:35 | |
They never tested the envelope. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
What? | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
-Bloody forensics. -They're on a tight budget this financial year. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
I don't care about their budget. Get it tested now. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
Thanks, Maneet. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
So, what was all that about then? | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
This is where Stephens-Lloyd's body was found. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
This is the original report, dated 21st November 1998. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
Oliver Stephens-Lloyd was last seen a few weeks beforehand. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
His body was found on the 14th by a fisherman. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
-Statement's in the file. -What's going on? | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
I've asked Murder Squad if they'll reopen the case. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
-Right. -Hiya. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
-All right? -You all right? | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
We just re-interviewed the fisherman who found the body. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
He recalls that pretty much the first thing he was | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
told at the scene was that it had to be a suicide. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
It also appears no photos or videos were taken of the scene. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Was there a missing persons report or investigation at the time? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
There was. The report's cursory, to say the least. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
Doesn't look as if anyone was actively | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
searching for Stephens-Lloyd. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
The SIO at the time was a DI Marcus Thirwell. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
He's no longer serving but we're doing our best to track him down. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
The pathologist's autopsy report at the time stated the body had | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
superficial wounds and a broken arm, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
which he put down to the body being struck by a boat. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:09 | |
So my boss has agreed to reopen the case. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
We're already seeking permission to exhume the body. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
Thanks. We'll be taking this from here. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:17 | |
-We've got an ongoing... -It's ours now. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
We'll keep you in the loop as best we can. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
It seems like you're in everybody's good books. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
'Ticket number 41.' | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
MAN SHOUTS | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
Do you know how long I've been waiting? | 0:24:42 | 0:24:43 | |
-You need to complete the form. -I've done all the forms! | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
-You're taking the piss! -Lindsay? -Yeah. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
My name's Tammy. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:51 | |
I'm one of the multi-disciplinary offender management team. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
-Is this your first appointment? -Yep. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
I'm ready to restart my life... | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
Lovely. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
..by rejoining the police service. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
-MAN: -Bollocks to this! | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
Er...it says here that you were acquitted of conspiracy to murder, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
but found guilty of perverting the course of justice. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
Yes, I'm appealing against the conviction. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
I'm going to clear my name. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:18 | |
You won't be able to rejoin the police with a criminal conviction. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
I told you, I'm appealing. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
Have you actually checked to see that I can rejoin? | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
No, I haven't checked. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
Well, then, I would like to apply to rejoin the police service. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
I'm sorry, why are you looking at me like that? | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
Lindsay, I don't know you, I've got nothing against you, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
but I can't help you if you're going to be in denial. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
You're an offender, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:40 | |
which means there's no chance you'll be able to rejoin the police. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
-Yet I'm not a criminal. -Let's look on the bright side. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
Try getting you into work. Everything follows from that. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
OK. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
Well, erm, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
I was a detective inspector, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
so I've got a valuable skill set. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
So, any news on them forensics? | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
Erm, yes, sir. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
There were notable findings on the inside of the envelope | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
recovered from Danny Waldron's flat. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
They found a number of tiny stains less than a millimetre across. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
Ink, standard biro - could have belonged to anyone. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
And blood. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
And that'd be Danny's, right? | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
No, sir, it matched Linus Murphy's. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
The final report states that these findings are consistent with | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
a blood-stained note written during or shortly after | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
Danny Waldron's torture murder of Linus Murphy. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
-Should I send a copy to DS Arnott, sir? -No. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
No, I'll handle it for now, and... | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
..and this is just between us for now? | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Nice one. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
Who is it? | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
Robin from the offender management team. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
Come in. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
Were you issued with the information leaflet? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
Good. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:18 | |
This is difficult for you... | 0:28:20 | 0:28:21 | |
..and we're here to help you pick up the pieces. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
How long do I have to stay here? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
You served half your sentence and now you're out on licence. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
You understand all this, of course. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
We want to help you move on but it's not going to be easy. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
You're going to need money for rent, for living expenses. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 | |
I can help you now, if you want. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
Ten quid. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:02 | |
What are you saying? | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
I was just going through the role of the MOMT in your adjustment | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
to life after prison. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
Nice meeting you, Lindsay. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
We both have such busy schedules, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
I don't think the taxpayer will mind. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
Shame I'm going to ruin the evening. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
Right, well, you know you can speak freely. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
I can't tell you how to run your department | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
but I want you to move Steve Arnott on. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
Make him some other department's problem. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
Let me tell you about Steve Arnott. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
He's my most dogged investigator, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
he will not leave a stone unturned. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
I had intended that meeting in a more social setting | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
would make this less confrontational between us. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
Yeah, well... | 0:30:18 | 0:30:19 | |
..we've only just got started. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
I would like the chicken liver pate | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
and the sea bass. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:31 | |
I'll be right back. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
Thanks. And I'll have the soup followed by the sirloin steak. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
Medium well. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
And... | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
no sauce. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:44 | |
What's the matter? | 0:31:23 | 0:31:24 | |
I'm a married man. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:28 | |
Separated. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
I took vows. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:33 | |
I can't undo them. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
Don't you want to stay with me, Ted? | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
I'm sorry, Gill. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
I'm sorry. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:49 | |
I don't need to watch this if you want to put something else on. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
It's fine. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:06 | |
You hungry? Want to go out? | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
Tired. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:21 | |
Yeah, all right. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
I need to tell you what I found out about Ronan Murphy. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
What, you looked into it? | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
Murphy was a person of interest | 0:32:34 | 0:32:35 | |
in the inquiry into the murder of Tommy Hunter. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
In what way? | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
Ronan Murphy was one of Hunter's closest associates. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
We never interviewed him. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
Major Violent Crime did. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
Ronan Murphy was interviewed | 0:32:50 | 0:32:51 | |
about the conspiracy Lindsay Denton was convicted of? | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
Looks like it. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:55 | |
None of this was in the file. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
It must been doctored. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
You didn't get any of this from me. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
Well, well... | 0:33:13 | 0:33:14 | |
Who'd have thought? | 0:33:17 | 0:33:18 | |
What are you after? | 0:33:19 | 0:33:20 | |
You ever heard the name Ronan Murphy? | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
Why d'you ask? | 0:33:25 | 0:33:26 | |
Just thought you might have heard the name. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
Are you reopening my case? | 0:33:29 | 0:33:30 | |
Forget it, all right? | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
That's not why I'm asking. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:36 | |
Look, I don't expect you to care, Steve, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
but I'm never, ever going to get back to being that person | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
that I was before all this happened. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
You know, the only thing that kept me sane, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
the thing that got me up in the morning, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
was being a police officer. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
I want to find the people that framed me, Steve, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
and I believe... | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
Well, I HOPE that you do, too. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
The audio file on this phone is as embarrassing to you as it is to me. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
Believe you me, I've got it backed up. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
I don't enjoy threatening people. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
They make me. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:14 | |
Ronan Murphy was killed by a police officer | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
and Murphy was a prime suspect in the murder of Tommy Hunter | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
but, for some reason, that's been hidden from AC-12. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
Bring in the officer that killed him. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
-He was killed a couple of weeks after. -Why? | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
Oh, come on, Steve. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:35 | |
Best guess, he was breaking open a paedophile ring. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
What? | 0:34:42 | 0:34:43 | |
Don't you see? | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
Ronan Murphy was interviewed | 0:34:49 | 0:34:50 | |
by the team investigating Tommy Hunter's murder. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
And where did you get that from? | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
I'm not at liberty to say, sir. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
Here we go again. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
Tommy Hunter was involved in grooming underage girls | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
and pimping them out | 0:35:07 | 0:35:08 | |
and he was about to turn informer. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
The people who ordered his murder didn't want what he knew | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
about child sexual exploitation to come out | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
and that's exactly the same motive as the murder of Danny Waldron. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
They're connected. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
Sir we know Hunter's murder was orchestrated by the Caddy | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
and there's ample evidence that someone | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
was pulling Hari Bains' strings. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:26 | |
Using the exact same methods as the Caddy. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
Voice contact only, multiple phones. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
Yeah, but... | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
why couldn't this be the Caddy? DC Cole is dead. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
Well, the Caddy is my inquiry, sir, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
so maybe I should be the one to look into it. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
-Yeah, I'd be grateful. -Sir. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
-Sir... -What? | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
Something to say? | 0:35:44 | 0:35:45 | |
Well, you're not at liberty. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:48 | |
Sir. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:53 | |
Well, I know exactly who we should speak to first. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
Who? | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
We'll be fine, thanks, Steve. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
See, the thing is, mate, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:02 | |
no-one likes a partner holding out on them. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
So, where you taking me? | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
To the lying bastard who told us the Caddy was dead. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
Well, why don't you let me handle this? | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
He's a chippy bastard. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
If I'm there, there'll be a witness to who said what. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
Cheers. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:28 | |
Dot. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
Mate. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:34 | |
What's all this, then? | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
We're following up on a statement you made in 2013 | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
in connection with the murder of Tommy Hunter. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
OK if we come in? | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
Oh, well, you have done well for yourself, eh? | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
You, too. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:54 | |
Landed on your feet, you might say. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
Crime audit. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:00 | |
We gather important figures for important figures. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
So... | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
how can I be of assistance to AC-12? | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
This report, sensitive parts of which are not for your eyes, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
quotes your statement regarding DC Cole. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
DI Cottan wrote this. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
I'm sure he can shed any light required. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
This is just routine, Nige. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:22 | |
We're just following up on one or two details. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Are these your words? | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
"DC Cole was nicknamed the Caddy | 0:37:27 | 0:37:28 | |
"because he wore golf jumpers but never played golf. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
"DC Cole boasted of underworld connections | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
"and attempted to recruit me into a clandestine network | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
"of corrupt police officers." | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
I cooperated with your investigation. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
But we've got some new lines of inquiry. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
Did Cole ever mention a gangland associate of Tommy Hunter | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
named Ronan Murphy? | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
Right. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
You pointed the finger at Cole. You led everyone up the garden path. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
Meanwhile, we've got two coppers murdered. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
I'm not saying another word without a solicitor. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
Fine, we'll continue this conversation at AC-12 under caution, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
a date to be appointed by us. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
Thank you. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:10 | |
Sir. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:14 | |
You have to shut this down. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
I will not let anyone put you on the spot about Cole. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
We both know why. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:27 | |
Shut this down now. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
You know the secrets I can spill. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
Why don't you come into AC-12 with your solicitor, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
you tell us you heard the Caddy rumour about Cole off some old lag, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
dead or lost his marbles, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
and you leave me to do the rest? | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
And? | 0:38:48 | 0:38:49 | |
There's always an and. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:52 | |
And... | 0:38:54 | 0:38:55 | |
you turn over all the stuff you've got on me. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
End of. | 0:38:58 | 0:38:59 | |
End of? | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
The incriminating item I've got on you, that's my only insurance. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
You need me to shut this down. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:07 | |
I'm small fry. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
You're the big fish. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:10 | |
So what'll happen when they find out | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
about all that evidence you've been sitting on? Hm? | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
The contacts in that phone. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
The call history. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
All in my past, mind. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:22 | |
Now, that isn't something anyone could shut down. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
Now, you're what? Six months off retiring? | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
Four and a half. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:33 | |
Look, I wasn't more than a kid when all this started. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
Certain people pushed me into joining the force | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
to do their dirty work from the inside. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
And the truth is, mate, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
I want to retire too. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
Just in a different way. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:50 | |
But I can't do that till I'm free of the past. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
And you could be free, too. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
Four and a half months, that's you walking off into the sunset... | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
..with none of this hanging over you. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
What's going on? | 0:40:20 | 0:40:21 | |
He's here. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:24 | |
Nige. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:28 | |
Now, the purpose of today's interview | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
is to re-examine a statement provided voluntarily by DC Morton | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
on October 17, 2013. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
This is document one in your folders. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
Is this your statement? | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
It is. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:46 | |
And do you now wish to amend your statement in any way? | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
I do. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
DC Jeremy Cole was a corrupt officer, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
the sort there's no room for in the police service. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
What he got up to sickened me. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
I did have occasion to meet Cole | 0:40:59 | 0:41:00 | |
and he did at one time boast | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
about his connections to underworld figures. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
Did you report Cole? | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
Although this is a voluntary interview, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
I request the professional courtesy | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
of being questioned by an officer at least one rack superior. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
Why didn't you report Cole at the time? | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
I thought he was a lippy kid. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
He was full of it. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:21 | |
I didn't believe his boasts. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
Much later, I learned about his offences. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
If only I'd acted, I might have prevented them. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
I'm extremely remorseful. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
In regards to your statement of Cole being the Caddy, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
would you now like to make any further amendments? | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
I never heard Cole himself use that nickname. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
I got it from another source, then I passed it on. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
I should have made that clear in my original statement. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
I'm extremely remorseful. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
Right, and who was the other source? | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
An old friend from my days on armed robbery. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
Terry Capistrano. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:55 | |
And do you have any further information? | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
No, sir. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
Only that I'm extremely remorseful. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
Well, thank you, DC Morton. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
No further questions. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
Interview terminated. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:09 | |
Wanker. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:22 | |
Right, well, I'll check out this name he gave us. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
Oh, well, I wouldn't bother if I were you. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
Terry Capistrano got Alzheimer's. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
He was retired sick. The poor bugger's lost his marbles. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
Convenient. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:37 | |
Oh, come off it, Kate. Nigel's just trying to help. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
Can we be sure? | 0:42:39 | 0:42:40 | |
Look, I know he's a mate and everything, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
but he's a few months off retirement | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
and, between me and you, his missus hasn't been too well lately. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
Well, I really don't give a shit. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:48 | |
Look, his heart's in the right place. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
Let's just leave this cock-up behind us, eh? | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
Please. | 0:42:58 | 0:42:59 | |
Yeah. Well, I suppose I can overlook it. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
Thanks. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
I really appreciate it. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:08 | |
Now we know the Caddy's active again, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
this time we get the bastard. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
Yeah. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:13 | |
Lindsay? | 0:43:17 | 0:43:18 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:43:18 | 0:43:19 | |
Thank you. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:28 | |
I'm sorry for disturbing you. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
What's this about? | 0:43:32 | 0:43:33 | |
I'm afraid I've heard | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
that you've been absent from work. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
I'm concerned that you're not coping | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
and, if you were to get into trouble again, you'd return to prison. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:48 | |
-I'm never going back to prison. -Mm. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
But you can't afford to lose that job. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
What did you expect for ten quid? | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
I was trying to help you. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
20. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:20 | |
HE GROANS IN PAIN | 0:45:05 | 0:45:06 | |
Don't you try making up any lies about this | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
because it's all on video. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
You can't do that! It's illegal! | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
You're saying that I can't record you without your prior knowledge, | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
as a breach of Article 8 of the Human Rights Act? | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
I'll take your Human Rights Act and I'll raise you Section 4 | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
and your offence under that act | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
carries a maximum prison sentence of five years. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
I'll see you in court. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:42 | |
Where's Maneet? | 0:46:10 | 0:46:11 | |
Off sick, I heard. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
Some forensics I've asked her to chase up. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
It'll just have to wait. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:18 | |
Oh, Kate's got a postmortem report for you, if you're interested. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
Thanks. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
Yeah, if you just get a couple of... | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
You've got a new PM on Oliver Stephens-Lloyd? | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
Yeah. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
Are you going to get round to telling me? | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
Yeah. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:40 | |
The new autopsy found significant differences from the original. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
Both arms were broken and there was a severe skull fracture. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
The fracture wasn't consistent with a flat surface | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
like the hull of a boat. It looked more like a hammer blow. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
Right. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
Look at the original PM. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
The distribution list at the end. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
Routine distribution to senior officers at the time. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
Routine except for one name. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
Chief Superintendent Fairbank had nothing to do with this case. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
He ran Vice. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
Also copied in on the missing persons report. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
What do we know about Chief Superintendent Fairbank? | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
This. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:16 | |
Councillor Dale Roach with guess who? | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
Chief Superintendent Fairbank. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
Roach and Fairbank. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
Roach and Fairbank. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
Chief Superintendent Fairbank retired in 2008. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
Oh, yeah. Pat ran vice for donkey's years. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
If Oliver Stephens-Lloyd did submit a list of abusers at Sands View, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
almost certainly it would have gone to Vice. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
Almost certainly. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
Which makes the fact he was copied in | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
on Stephens-Lloyd's missing persons and postmortem reports | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
all the more suspicious. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
Sir, former Chief Superintendent Fairbank still lives in the area. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
Well, let's see what he's got to say for himself. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
Good work, you two. Good work. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:19 | |
-Sir. -Sir. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:20 | |
Come in, please. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
Very grateful for your time, sir. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:33 | |
Oh, anything I can do to help. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
And I'm retired now, there's no need for the sir. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
Follow me. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:40 | |
Take a seat. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:45 | |
-I'm DS... -Tea or coffee? | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
We're fine. Thank you, sir. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
As I was saying, I'm DS Arnott. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
DC Fleming. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:52 | |
Mr Fairbank, we'd like to begin by asking you about a social worker | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
who went missing in October '98, Oliver Stephens-Lloyd. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
Doesn't ring a bell. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:04 | |
If we may, sir, perhaps this report might jog your memory. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
Blind as a bat without these. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
Are you sure you don't want a tea or coffee? | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
We're fine. Thank you, sir. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
Sorry. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:35 | |
The report was copied to you. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
I mean, is there any reason you might take an interest? | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
None at all. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:41 | |
Can you explain why you'd be sent this report? | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
Well, I don't remember any of this. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
I mean, you're going back a good many years. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
We'd like to show you some newspaper clippings, if we may. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
CLOCK CHIMES | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
You appear to be quite close to Councillor Dale Roach. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
Our paths crossed occasionally. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
Usually at a charity event. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
We weren't close. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
Well, we're looking into allegations of child sexual exploitation | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
involving Councillor Roach. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:23 | |
As head of Vice, did you ever deal with any complaints against Roach? | 0:50:27 | 0:50:31 | |
Well, there may have been some such saying, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
"Councillor Roach has done this," or, "Councillor Roach did that." | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
And what would it be that the councillor did? | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
Well, I don't recall the details | 0:50:40 | 0:50:41 | |
but, when these things came up, | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
they would have been looked into. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
Did you ever deal with complaints of abuse | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
at Sands View Boys' Home? | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
That doesn't ring a bell. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
There was a specific allegation | 0:50:52 | 0:50:53 | |
made by the social worker that we're talking about, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
Oliver Stephens-Lloyd. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:57 | |
Sorry. | 0:50:57 | 0:50:58 | |
Well, Stephens-Lloyd claimed he compiled a list of authority figures | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
who, with the collusion of staff, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
conducted systematic abuse of boys resident at Sands View. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
See, I've never even heard of this Stands View place. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
-DOORBELL RINGS -Oh! Sorry. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
-I'll get that, love! -OK! | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
Here he is! | 0:51:18 | 0:51:19 | |
-Hope I'm not too late. -Spot on. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
How you keeping, Ted? | 0:51:24 | 0:51:25 | |
Yeah, can't complain, can't complain. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
I hope you don't mind me calling you. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:31 | |
Not at all, sir. A matter of professional courtesy. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
As you were. As you were. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
Oh, now, you'll stay after, won't you? | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
Joyce'll kill me if I let you off the hook from her Victoria sponge! | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
That's very kind of you, sir! | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
Thank you. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:51 | |
Don't mind me. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
Now, where were we? | 0:51:55 | 0:51:56 | |
Where's Hastings? | 0:52:23 | 0:52:24 | |
Briefing. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
Inspectors and above only. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
Kate. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:30 | |
What the hell was going on | 0:52:38 | 0:52:39 | |
with Hastings showing up at Fairbank's house? | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
You heard Fairbank. He called him, put the gaffer on the spot. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
Yeah, well, I saw the handshake at the door. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
It was masonic. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
In that file on Ronan Murphy, | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
Murphy's connection to Hunter | 0:52:53 | 0:52:54 | |
must have been concealed by police officers, | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
and who gave us that file? | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
Hastings. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:01 | |
The Caddy is the codename for a serving police officer | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
with lifelong links to organised crime, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
working as a fixer within the police service | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
for certain criminal interests. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
No officer has ever been irrefutably identified as the Caddy, | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
hence his existence is putative. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
The term was first heard in a video statement | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
made by John Thomas Hunter. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
DC Jeremy Cole, deceased. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
Now, Cole was originally presumed on the balance of probabilities | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
to be the Caddy, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
but that conclusion is no longer supportable. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
PC Harinderpal Bains. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
A corrupt AFO. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
His statements of evidence have led | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
to the most accurate profile yet of this individual. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
The Caddy is male. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
Given his lifelong links to organised crime, | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
the Caddy is almost certainly from a working-class background | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
and grew up in an urban environment. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
Given the history of his activities, | 0:54:12 | 0:54:13 | |
starting from sometime between 2005 to 2010, | 0:54:13 | 0:54:17 | |
according to the video statement by Tommy Hunter, | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
the Caddy is probably under 35. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
Given his access to confidential information | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
regarding ongoing operations, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:29 | |
the Caddy is almost certainly a detective. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
His ability to manage communications | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
without ever betraying his own identity | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
implies a highly trained, highly sophisticated approach | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
to covert operations that is associated | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
with counter-terrorism. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
And, lastly, Bains describes the Caddy's voice | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
as having a London or south-east accent. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
There's your bullet points. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
All right, everybody, let's leave it there. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
Thank you. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:10 | |
Of course, this is only a profile. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
There's lots of people this description could fit. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
But only the Caddy | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
could have got his hands on Lindsay Denton's bribe money | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
from the right forensics source. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
Sorry, gaffer, | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
but the finger's pointing at one of our own. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
CAR DOOR SLAMS | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
All right? | 0:56:32 | 0:56:33 | |
All right? | 0:56:33 | 0:56:34 | |
SIM card? | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
It's all in there. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:44 | |
I don't know what to say. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:55 | |
That it, then? | 0:57:10 | 0:57:11 | |
Yeah. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:13 |