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APPLAUSE

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Hello and welcome to Debatable,

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the quiz show where talk is cheap

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but celebrity chat can win a contestant money.

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Today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions

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to try to bag our jackpot of £2,000.

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But they're not on their own.

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They'll also have a panel of celebrity brain boxes

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debating their way to the answer.

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Will they help or will they hinder?

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Well, that's debatable. And now it's time to meet them.

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On today's show, we have

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journalist Rachel Johnson,

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we have reporter Michael Buerk

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and broadcaster and campaigner

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June Sarpong.

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APPLAUSE

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It is a lovely panel. It is perfectly balanced.

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I am feeling the intelligence, Michael, from here.

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Are you also feeling the charisma?

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I am feeling the charisma.

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It's coming from either side of you.

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-LAUGHTER

-Exactly. Exactly.

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So, that's the panel. Let's meet today's contestant.

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It is Anj Avraam from the Cotswolds. How are you doing, sir?

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-Very well, thank you.

-Good, good, good.

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So, what do you get up to in the Cotswolds?

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Well, mainly I'm a writer so I work all the time

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and it's a great place to do that.

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-And is it true that you rap a little bit? Is that true?

-Well, I used to.

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Music was my passion but I did it... We were in a little hip-hop band.

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Can you give us a little burst now?

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Let's make it relevant. OK.

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-RAPS:

-# It's time to have a debate I'm racking my brains

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# But with a panel this great

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# I'm out to win the cash and leave Paddy amazed. #

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-APPLAUSE JUNE:

-Whoo!

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We honestly can't follow that, so let's get on with the game.

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Here we go. Let's play Round One.

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This round is multiple choice

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and each question has four possible answers but only one is correct.

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Helping you find the correct answer is our panel.

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Now, will you go with what they say or will you go your own way?

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It is entirely up to you.

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There's two questions in this round

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and each correct answer will bank you £200,

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which you will be playing for in our Final Debate

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at the end of the show. OK?

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-Yeah.

-All righty. Here's your first question.

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And we will pause as our panel now realises

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they are potentially out of their depth.

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THEY LAUGH

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-Well, thank you for the "potential".

-The vote of confidence.

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Anj, what's your first thought?

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Erm.

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Well, Edward VIII, that's going back quite a while.

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-Well, we have the panel so we don't need an answer yet.

-Yeah.

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Let's see what the panel make of this.

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OK, panel, your debate starts now.

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Right. Now, come on.

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Well, I know the Wall Street Crash was 1929.

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That's right. That's definitely right.

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Was Edward VIII 1926?

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-No, 1936.

-No, Edward VIII abdicated in 1936.

-OK.

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I think '36.

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I know it was '36.

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-OK.

-Oh, you said that so steely.

-So steely.

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-But what about The Great Gatsby though?

-That's the one...

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-That's '20s.

-Read the book, seen the film.

-Yeah.

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I'm getting a Roaring Twenties, flappery feeling, aren't you?

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-Roaring Twenties, yeah.

-Yeah, yeah.

-It's '20s or '30s.

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-Academy Awards?

-But don't you think The Great Gatsby is all about

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-that kind of wealth and the bubble and everything?

-I know.

-Yes.

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It must have been before The Great Crash,

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-don't you think?

-Before.

-Yeah, definitely.

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-But Academy Awards.

-Academy Awards.

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-What year did Gone With The Wind win?

-I don't know.

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Because wasn't that the year that...?

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I think that was the first-ever Academy Awards.

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-And they had...

-How do you know that then?

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-That was in the '40s, wasn't it, Gone With The Wind?

-Was it?

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-My vote would be for Gatsby.

-Yeah. I'm going for Gatsby.

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If you're going for Gatsby, I could go for Academy Awards, couldn't I?

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-But then I have to make a decision.

-Well, that's your job.

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My decision is The Great Gatsby was first.

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-ANJ:

-OK.

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Yeah, I'm going to go away from my original thoughts,

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which were that Edward VIII preceded all this.

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So, Rachel has convinced you of that?

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It's that knowing gaze. Look at it.

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-It's that steeliness that she has.

-Oh, yeah.

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-See, Rachel has got something there.

-She does.

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She's definitely got something there.

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-LAUGHTER

-I think...

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OK, I will agree with the panel.

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Is The Great Gatsby, for £200, the correct answer?

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE It is the correct answer. Well done.

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-Yeah!

-Well done, us.

-We're up and running.

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-We've tested them out.

-We are infallible.

-We are up and running.

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The Great Gatsby was published in 1925.

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Wall Street Crash was '29.

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The first Academy Awards was held in 1929.

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Edward VIII abdicated in 1936.

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-Shameless.

-Spot-on.

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So, you were right to go with the panel.

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We have £200 in the pot.

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APPLAUSE

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OK, let's crack on. Here's your next question.

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-Now you are...

-I'm just trying to picture it in my mind.

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It's a very famous cover, obviously.

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However, I wasn't really focused on their beards

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when I last looked at it.

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So, maybe Paul.

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OK, so you're maybe thinking Paul.

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I know that one of our panel has lived through this era.

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I didn't say who.

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I'd peaked long before The Beatles.

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So, let's see what our panel think.

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Your debate starts now.

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This is the one with them trooping across the road?

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-Yeah.

-Yeah.

-The zebra crossing in Abbey Road.

-Yes.

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Now, Paul is the clean-cut one, isn't he?

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I know, but I'm worried that this is a trick question.

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-I think he had a beard on that.

-I think it was George.

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Do you know, I think you're right.

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-I don't think George has ever had a beard.

-I mean Ringo...

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-Yes, he has had a beard.

-George Harrison?

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-Course he has.

-No, but it was in the '70s when he was...

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-Oh, when he got into his...

-Yeah, hippy stuff.

-Yeah.

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Well, that's true. That's true.

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Not before then.

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Can't you show us the cover, Patrick?

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LAUGHTER We will do.

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-Do you have a picture of them, Patrick?

-Oh, good. I can't wait.

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But do you think it's a choice then, June, between Paul and George?

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-Yes.

-Let's try and narrow it down.

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Yeah. I think definitely between Paul and George.

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-John, I just see him with a beard, don't you?

-Oh, yeah.

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-He would have had one.

-Ringo, very small beard.

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-I think he was in his round specs and beard.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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And Paul might have wanted to stand out, I think. You know?

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Differentiate himself from John?

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Do you think Paul is just too obvious

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-and we should go for George?

-Yeah, yeah.

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What do you think, June? Come on.

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-George.

-George. What do you think, Rachel?

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I think George, too.

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We think George.

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OK. So, what do we think?

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Most years I've seen any of these people,

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it's mainly been Paul and Ringo that haven't had a beard

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but it was...that's much more recently than Abbey Road.

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And I'm not really going to improve on the panel's thinking

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so it's an act of faith, I think.

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I'm going to agree with the panel and see what fruit that bears.

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I love the look of surprise on the panel

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as you have said that you can't improve on their thinking.

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LAUGHTER

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-You're going for George.

-Yes. Yeah.

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OK, second time you've agreed with the panel.

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For £200, and to get the prize pot up to 400,

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what's the correct answer?

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-Ooh. RACHEL:

-No!

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-First one!

-I did say Paul might want to stand out.

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I did say that.

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-You should have went with your initial reaction.

-I know.

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-Sorry, Anj.

-Well, at least we were all in it together.

-JUNE:

-Yeah.

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-The mire, you mean?

-LAUGHTER

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The Abbey Road cover featured on a stamp in 2006.

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-There it is.

-Such a great cover.

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Abbey Road was released in 1969.

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It was the 13th album that the band released in the UK.

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So, unfortunately, you didn't manage to bank anything in that question

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and it means that the total amount

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banked at the end of Round One is £200.

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APPLAUSE

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So, the panel have helped you on one question,

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they haven't on the other.

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How do we think they're performing?

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I'm starting to think June is quite trustworthy.

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Yeah.

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You are right.

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OK, well, look. Let's see how they cope with pictures.

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It is time for Round Two.

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Round Two is a picture round.

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All you have to do, Anj, is place three pictures in the correct order.

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There are two questions in this round.

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Each correct answer is now worth £300.

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So, here we go.

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OK. I know...

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I think I know which bird

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has the longest wingspan.

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I think it's the albatross

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but I'm not sure

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about the other two,

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what order they go in.

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OK. This is what our panel is here for.

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Let's see if they can help you

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and put it in order.

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Your debate starts now.

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I've seen every one of these.

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-Oh, have you?

-I've seen two of them.

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I once went to Peru to look at condors

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-and they are very, very large.

-They are.

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-So, I think this has got to be the biggest.

-I think...

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The longest wingspan.

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I think the albatross has got absolutely enormous...

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-If you see them...

-They are monsters.

-..following a ship.

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-Yeah.

-You know, and they never...

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-Oh, no, you're talking about the albatross?

-Albatross, yeah.

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-You think bigger than the condor?

-I think wider.

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That's the main thing, the wingspan.

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Well, Anj thought the albatross was wider.

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Yeah. I think the eagle is the shortest.

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-Yeah, definitely. That is the shortest.

-You're the shortest.

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-I am the shortest.

-No disrespect.

-That is accurate.

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-OK. So, now it's a toss-up between these two.

-Between...

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What do you think?

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You said the albatross is huge, didn't you?

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I don't want to be the one who gets it wrong again.

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That's your role, Rachel. That's your role.

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LAUGHTER

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Why do you think they asked you on the show?

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I think you're probably right.

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If the albatross is doing long distances

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and the condor is just flying around Peru.

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-They float on thermals, don't they, the...

-Albatross.

-..condors?

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-But the albatrosses...

-Has to go...

-Yeah.

-OK, all right.

-So it needs...

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-Let's go with you.

-You reckon?

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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-So, we're agreed?

-Yes.

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We think it's in this order.

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Golden eagle with the shortest wingspan,

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condor in the middle

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but the one with the longest wingspan,

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we think, is the albatross.

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So, Anj, our panel has brought way more knowledge to this

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than I ever thought they would.

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And Michael has convinced the other two on the panel

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that the albatross is the longest wingspan

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just by sticking his arms out.

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-LAUGHTER

-Did you actually do that?

-He did.

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-No. Yeah.

-Every time he said albatross...

-Yeah.

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Do it again, Michael. Go on.

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-Has Michael's impression convinced you?

-Yeah.

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The albatross is quite famous

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for being, I think,

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for having the largest wingspan

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in the avian kingdom.

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So I think it has to be that order.

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Avian kingdom, wow.

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So you're agreeing with our panel?

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I've been burned once but

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I think I'm safe to say

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-they are right on this one.

-OK.

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So, Anj, you are agreeing with the panel.

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You say the golden eagle has the shortest

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then the condor, then the albatross.

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For £300, is that the correct order?

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APPLAUSE It is the correct answer.

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-Well done.

-Well done.

-You too.

-Hang on, hang on.

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-We've been doing... Hey!

-Yeah!

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Woohoo!

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Well worked out.

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The wandering albatross's wingspan is the longest

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-of any living bird and there it is.

-There it is.

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And from that picture, we can actually see

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that the albatross has exactly the same wingspan

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as Michael Buerk's arms.

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LAUGHTER

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So, that's £300 added to your prize pot

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giving you a total of £500.

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APPLAUSE

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-It's going very nicely.

-Very good. Very nice. Yeah.

-Very nicely.

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All right, let's take a look at question two for another 300.

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Now, that's a good question.

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It is a good question.

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And the look on your face shows that it is.

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They seem to be roughly similar lengths.

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However, I think that probably the longest, at this point,

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is the Channel Tunnel.

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OK. Don't worry.

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Our panel will no doubt shed some light on this.

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Your debate start now.

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Right. Well, I think, first of all,

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-surely the shortest has got to be the Channel Tunnel.

-Surely.

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-Because the Channel is only...

-21.

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..21 miles, isn't it, Dover to Calais?

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So, say another couple of miles for the tunnel.

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-It can't be much more than 23, 24.

-Than 22. Yeah, maximum.

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Now, the Thames rises...

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-Doesn't it rise somewhere near Cricklade in the Cotswolds?

-Mm.

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So, it's got to be at least 60 or 70 miles,

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-hasn't it, the length of the Thames?

-At least.

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So, it's at least three times the Channel Tunnel.

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The M25 feels like 1,000 miles long when you're on it.

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-That's cos you're always sat in traffic.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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-So, Channel Tunnel is shortest for sure.

-Yes.

-Yes.

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I think the longest is the M25.

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OK. You think the M25. What do you think?

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-Well, I think River Thames.

-OK.

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-I think M25.

-Is the longest, is that what you think?

-Hmm.

-OK.

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-So, it's two to one.

-Well, I'm outnumbered.

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-So, I think we're there.

-Yes, we're in order. Yeah.

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And I think the panel puts them in this order.

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All righty. That is the order of the panel. What do we think?

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I think they've got

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-the Channel Tunnel right.

-Yes.

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Cos we can cap that at 21 miles, can't we?

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The River Thames, if Michael is correct in saying

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that it rises in the Cotswolds,

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that's going to give it at least 150 miles

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before it goes though London.

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So, I definitely think I'd move the River Thames to be...

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Yeah, to the top, to be the longest.

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So, you're going against the panel.

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-June is nodding her head.

-Not fully.

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You're going to agree with June.

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You are going for the Channel Tunnel,

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then the M25,

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-then the River Thames.

-Yes.

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For £300, is the Channel Tunnel, M25 and River Thames the correct answer?

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-Oh, get in!

-It is the correct answer.

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-Well done.

-Yay. Thank you.

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You were right to go against the panel.

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Nobody likes a know-it-all, June.

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-LAUGHTER

-Sorry. I do. I do.

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-Looking slightly too smug there on the end.

-Yes, yes, yes.

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So, the Channel Tunnel, the shortest, 31 miles.

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The M25, 170 miles.

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The River Thames over 200 miles.

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Oh.

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So, at the end of Round Two,

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your prize pot stands at £800.

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APPLAUSE

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-Well done.

-Yeah, thank you.

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-Doing very, very well.

-Yeah.

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How do we think our panel are doing so far, Anj?

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No, I think they're all doing pretty well, you know.

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It's just, I would have expected Michael's geography

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to be slightly better with all that world travelling,

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reporting from everywhere in the world.

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-A man who has travelled around the world.

-He really has.

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-You thought he may have known the length of...

-The Thames.

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-..a major river in the country.

-Are you ganging up on me?

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-No. Not at all.

-No, no, no.

-It's bad enough with these two.

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-Remember you have to pick one for your final debate.

-OK.

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-But we don't need that answer just yet.

-OK.

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OK, it's time for Round Three.

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So, Anj, in this round you will face questions that contain

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three statements relating to a person, a place or a thing

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but only one of those statements is true.

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You must decide which one.

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Two questions in the round

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and we're going to up the cash to £500 a question.

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So, best of luck. Here's your first question.

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How's your politics?

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This was one of the subjects that

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I wasn't going to be too strong on -

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politics.

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They're very interesting possibilities.

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Does it have a garden?

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Cos if it had a garden,

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wouldn't they be putting in massive expense bills to trim it.

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Wouldn't we have heard about it?

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So, I'm going to pick B for now

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just provisionally.

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So, £500 up for grabs here.

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We have Rachel, of course, whose brother was the Mayor of London.

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We have June, involved in the Labour Party,

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visited 10 Downing Street many times.

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We have Michael, who has read the news

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and interviewed many politicians.

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I'm not putting any pressure on our panel

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but if we don't get this one correct...

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£500 at stake and the debate starts now.

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Well, the weird thing is that when somebody arrives

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at the front of 10 Downing Street,

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if it is Boris, they let him stay there for about 45 minutes,

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but if it's Larry the cat, the door opens immediately.

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-Now, come on. Let's...

-So, we know it opens like that.

-We do, we do.

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-And we also know there's a garden...

-We know there's a garden.

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-..because that's where Clegg and Cameron had their...

-Loving.

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-..marriage.

-So, it's one of the other two.

-I think it's the Queen.

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I think the Queen has never visited during her reign.

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I think it might be the front door, you know.

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-I've never seen anybody actually open it.

-You knock and somebody...

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-I've been there on...

-I don't think it's even got a door handle.

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I think it's got a smooth, black surface.

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-It might have a rapper.

-It does have a rapper.

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It does have a rapper. It definitely has a rapper.

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It's definitely got a rapper. I'm a little undecided on this.

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-I think... Well, what do you think, Rachel?

-I think it's the Queen.

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I think it's the Queen.

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I think it's the front door but the majority of the panel,

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which I have to go along with...

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-Not being bullied. It's a brave decision.

-Hen-pecked.

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LAUGHTER

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They think, quite wrongly, but I have to go along with them,

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that it's the Queen has never visited during her reign.

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OK. Against Michael's better judgment

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or, indeed, worst judgment,

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he has decided to go with the Queen has never visited during her reign.

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Now, Michael also thought

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that the door at Number 10 didn't have a rapper but we have one here.

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LAUGHTER

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I'm here all week. I'm here all week. Thank you.

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OK. Anj, what do we think?

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OK. So, this is incredibly tough.

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I'm going to trust my panel on this one.

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-RACHEL:

-Oh.

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Now, hopefully this might get me somewhere.

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I'm... I'm still not sure.

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I'm still dithering.

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Because the door thing,

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I keep coming back to the door thing in my mind, you know?

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And I can't actually imagine it

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being able to be opened from the outside.

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Oh.

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Well, OK, some people are going to think I'm crazy

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but maybe can we change it to A?

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So, you were going to go with the panel,

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you were going to say the Queen has never visited during her reign

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but you have changed your mind

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and said the front door can only be opened from the inside.

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You sure about this?

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-For national security purposes, I think it makes sense.

-Yes.

-OK.

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That's what Michael thinks as well.

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For £500, the correct answer is...

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-You're right!

-Oh.

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-Yeah!

-Well done.

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That is brilliant. That is brilliant.

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So, the front door has no handle,

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it does have a doorknob and a knocker

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but it cannot be used to open the door.

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-RACHEL:

-I knew that was true.

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So, £500 is into the prize pot

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-bringing you up to £1,300.

-Well done.

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-APPLAUSE

-Lovely.

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Anj, you're playing a great game.

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We have one question left.

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-500 at stake, let's try to get that prize pot up to £1,800.

-OK, OK.

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Here it comes.

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This one is a great final question.

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It is a good final question.

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And the good news is we have our panel here.

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So, this will be a piece of cake as we pass it over to our panel

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for the final debate.

0:21:040:21:05

-Shall we be ruthless and analytical here?

-Yeah.

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So, let's see if we can just dispose of one.

0:21:080:21:11

So, awarded every two years. What do you think about that?

0:21:110:21:14

-It feels like it's awarded every two minutes.

-Yeah.

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It's always coming around so I think that's wrong.

0:21:160:21:19

It's just because newspapers like the one you work for

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get themselves into a tut-tut-tutting over it, isn't it?

0:21:210:21:24

-I think it's awarded every year.

-I think it's every year, yeah.

0:21:240:21:26

-Do you?

-Yeah. Yeah.

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Damien Hirst could easily have won it twice.

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I only know two people that might have.

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I don't think you're allowed to win it twice.

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I think it's once and that's it.

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And also, usually, it kind of makes their career, doesn't it?

0:21:350:21:39

-They win it and then they become a household name after.

-Yeah.

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-Or buries them.

-Must be under 50 years old.

0:21:410:21:44

That sounds a bit politically incorrect, doesn't it, these days?

0:21:440:21:47

-It does, but it has a ring of truth to me.

-Yes.

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-Because it's an art prize.

-They're a contrary lot.

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And 50 would be young in the art world, wouldn't it?

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-And I can't think of any oldies who've won it.

-No.

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That's prejudice.

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And, in fact, I can't really think of anyone who's won it,

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to be honest.

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-You're bluffing, Rachel, aren't you?

-Chris Ofili has won it.

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But I think it's that one. I think it's the age one.

0:22:040:22:06

-You think is the age one?

-I do actually.

-Yeah.

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-You think it's the age one?

-Yeah.

-I don't think it's that one.

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I think it's awarded every two years.

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-You both think it's under 50.

-Yes.

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The panel goes for must be under 50 years old to win, quite wrongly.

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What do we think, Anj? 500 at stake.

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Hmm. Yeah.

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-So...

-The last time you went with Michael Buerk, you did win.

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Again, I think I'm going to have to fall back on faith

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for this one in the panel.

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And go with the answer that they've given.

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So, you're going to go with C, must be under 50.

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So, to add 500 to the prize pot to bring it up to £1,800.

0:22:470:22:52

The correct answer is...

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE You were right to go with the panel.

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-High-five, Rachel.

-Come on!

-Oh, yeah. That's good.

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OK, the age limit of under 50 was introduced in 1991

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to clarify that the award wasn't a lifetime achievement award.

0:23:100:23:13

-Hmm.

-It's awarded annually

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and Damien Hirst won it only once in 1995.

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So, at the end of Round Three, your prize pot is up to £1,800.

0:23:200:23:25

APPLAUSE

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How good is that? Well done.

0:23:270:23:29

Pretty good, pretty good.

0:23:290:23:30

OK, Anj, there is just one question that stands between you and £1,800

0:23:300:23:35

and that is today's Final Debate.

0:23:350:23:37

-OK.

-As before, you're not going to be playing alone

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but we're going to make life a little bit more tricky

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by allowing you to choose just one celebrity from our panel.

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You and your celebrity will have 45 seconds to debate the question.

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So, based on what you've heard so far today,

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who would you like to join you in the Final Debate?

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They are a very good panel.

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They got warmed up in the end

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and they've all supplied very, very good answers and...

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-Do you know what? I reckon June.

-Yeah.

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Because June is really quite sharp shooting at the answers

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and we're going to need to be under pressure for time.

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So, I think I'm going to go with June for this round.

0:24:210:24:23

-OK.

-On you go, babe.

0:24:230:24:25

-OK, June, would you like to join us as we play the Final Debate?

-Yes.

0:24:250:24:29

So, June, are you feeling confident?

0:24:350:24:37

No, nervous.

0:24:370:24:38

-I think you performed really well.

-Oh, thank you.

0:24:380:24:41

Well, I want him to win the money so...

0:24:410:24:43

-He's been doing very well, though, so far on his own.

-He has.

0:24:430:24:46

Five out of six questions correct.

0:24:460:24:48

-You've agreed with the panel four times.

-Yeah.

0:24:480:24:50

You've got June to help you. £1,800 at stake so the best of luck.

0:24:500:24:54

Let's have a little look at today's Final Debate categories.

0:24:540:24:57

Hmm.

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-Oh.

-Are you better at Food And Drink?

-I think so.

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I think I'm better at Food And Drink as well.

0:25:060:25:08

-Let's go with Food And Drink.

-So, yeah.

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-We'll go for Food And Drink, please.

-Confident about that?

0:25:100:25:12

-Ish.

-Yeah, ish.

-OK.

0:25:120:25:15

For £1,800, here is today's 45-second Final Debate question.

0:25:150:25:21

Oh.

0:25:280:25:29

So, Anj and June, for the final time,

0:25:410:25:44

your 45-second debate starts now.

0:25:440:25:46

-So, Sauvignon and champagne.

-We know those two.

0:25:460:25:49

-Definitely in there, aren't they?

-Yeah.

0:25:490:25:51

Jura, does that sound French?

0:25:510:25:52

-I don't think so.

-Piedmont sounds more French, doesn't it?

0:25:520:25:55

-Yeah?

-Yeah. Piedmont, maybe.

0:25:550:25:57

-And Alsace, as well, sounds French.

-Yeah.

0:25:570:26:00

-Franconia sounds French but it sounds like a trick.

-Very French.

0:26:000:26:02

Yeah. That sounds like a trick.

0:26:020:26:04

-I've never heard of Franconia wine, have you?

-No, never.

-No.

0:26:040:26:07

-Have you ever heard of Piedmont?

-Maybe.

-Yeah?

0:26:070:26:09

-Maybe.

-Would you like a glass

0:26:090:26:11

-of Piedmont?

-Piedmont. Yeah. Oui.

0:26:110:26:13

-Or would you like some Alsace? Alsace.

-Alsace, I'm not sure.

0:26:130:26:16

-Is Alsace even wine?

-Yeah.

0:26:160:26:19

-I think... Is that where Armagnac is made or something?

-I don't know.

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Or some sort of brandy. I don't

0:26:220:26:23

know. I'm not a massive drinker.

0:26:230:26:25

-I actually don't drink.

-Yeah.

0:26:250:26:27

This is the worst question for me.

0:26:270:26:29

Oh, it's better than sport though.

0:26:290:26:31

-OK.

-OK, time is up.

0:26:310:26:34

We have found out that June doesn't drink

0:26:340:26:36

and Anj is not a big drinker.

0:26:360:26:38

You've chosen Food And Drink.

0:26:380:26:41

So, Anj, we need three French wine regions for £1,800.

0:26:410:26:46

-Piedmont over Alsace?

-I think so.

-Your first one, please.

0:26:460:26:50

-Sauvignon.

-Sauvignon.

-Sauvignon.

-Yeah.

0:26:500:26:53

-Champagne.

-Champagne.

-Champagne.

0:26:530:26:55

And...

0:26:550:26:57

-Piedmont?

-I think so.

-Yeah.

0:26:570:26:59

We'll go Piedmont.

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Piedmont.

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For £1,800 your answers were champagne, Sauvignon and Piedmont.

0:27:030:27:08

-This is nerve-racking now.

-Yeah.

0:27:090:27:11

Let's see.

0:27:110:27:13

The first, is champagne

0:27:130:27:16

a correct answer?

0:27:160:27:18

APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

0:27:200:27:24

Next you guys went for Sauvignon.

0:27:240:27:26

Only two answers now between you and £1,800.

0:27:260:27:32

Is Sauvignon a correct answer?

0:27:320:27:34

It's the wrong answer.

0:27:370:27:40

Unfortunately that means that you don't actually win

0:27:400:27:43

today's prize pot.

0:27:430:27:44

Sauvignon is a grape, it is not a region of France.

0:27:440:27:47

-Oh, no.

-Oh, my God.

0:27:470:27:49

Let's take a look at the final two correct answers.

0:27:490:27:53

-Alsace and Jura.

-The ones we didn't think.

-Yeah.

0:27:530:27:56

Oh, well, we didn't have that.

0:27:560:27:58

So, Anj, unfortunately you didn't win but have you had a nice time

0:27:580:28:01

-playing the game?

-Very much so, yeah.

0:28:010:28:03

Great meeting everyone and it's been a great game.

0:28:030:28:06

OK. Look, thanks so much for coming in.

0:28:060:28:08

Give it up one more time, let's hear it for Anj. Well played.

0:28:080:28:11

-APPLAUSE

-Thank you.

0:28:110:28:15

So, that is it for Debatable.

0:28:150:28:16

There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel of

0:28:160:28:19

June Sarpong, Rachel Johnson and Michael Buerk.

0:28:190:28:22

APPLAUSE I do hope you've enjoyed watching.

0:28:220:28:25

We will see you next time for more heated debates.

0:28:250:28:27

For now, it's goodbye from me.

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