Episode 5 Debatable

APPLAUSE

Hello, and welcome to Debatable,

the quiz show where a panel of celebrities try to win money

by doing what they do best, chatting.

Today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions

to try to bag our jackpot of £2,000,

but they are not on their own

as they will also have a panel of celebrity brainboxes

debating their way to the answer.

Will they help or will they hinder?

Well, that is debatable. So, let's meet them.

On today's show, we have

broadcaster...

..actor...

..and actor...

APPLAUSE

That's our panel. Let's see who is playing today with them.

It is Jack Shannon, from Surrey.

-Welcome to the show, Jack.

-Thanks.

Tell us a little bit about yourself,

apart from the fact you have magnificent cowboy boots.

-They're my lucky boots.

-These are your lucky boots?

-They are.

I am an advertising manager. I work in London.

I'm married to my lovely wife, Katie.

We've been married for two years and we've got a baby on the way.

-AUDIENCE:

-Aww!

-Congratulations. Well done.

What else do you get up to when you're not working?

Well, I'm an huge fan of wrestling.

Do you wrestle? Do you promote? Do you commentate? What...?

I've been known to do a bit of commentating in my time.

And do you think that there's a future star of world wrestling here?

-IMITATES WRESTLING COMMENTATOR:

-Let me tell you something, Paddy.

-Yes.

Let me tell you something about Chris Biggins.

He is the man when he steps into the ring, he shakes the ring

and the whole crowd, they're shaking and they're going,

"Biggins! Biggins! Biggins! Biggins!"

-AUDIENCE:

-Biggins! Biggins! Biggins! Biggins!

AUDIENCE LAUGH

Woo!

I really, really would love to see Biggins dressed in a leotard

with some knee-high boots.

-I'm sure you would!

-LAUGHTER

So, Jack, I think we've a reasonable idea of this

but what do you think you're going to bring to the game today?

-Cat-like reflexes.

-Cat-like reflexes?

LAUGHTER

I love the fact that when you walked out, Jack,

I thought that the cowboy boots were the most unusual part of you.

-LAUGHTER

-Thank you.

-Are you ready to play?

-Absolutely. Let's play Debatable.

-That's my line.

-Oh, I'm sorry.

So, let's get this cat-like show on the road as we play Round One.

So, this round is multiple choice.

Each question has four possible answers,

only one of those is correct.

Helping you find the correct answer is our cat-like panel.

Two questions in this round. Each correct answer will bank you £200.

-Ready?

-Yes.

Let's play Debatable. Here's your first question.

What's your first thought, Jack?

My first thought is that I'm a huge fan of bees.

I really admire what they do and they make a lot of honey,

so I'm going towards bees.

-Just because you're a fan of bees?

-Absolutely.

OK. Let's go to our panel.

-Your debate starts now.

-Thank you so much.

-Well, I'm a fan of men, so...

LAUGHTER

So you want to go for men?

Well, android. The droid bit is the robot.

Isn't the andro bit the man?

-I think it is something to do with man.

-Yeah.

Oh, is andro to do with man?

-So it could be men.

-It could be men.

-It could be men.

And gold.

I can't think anybody would be...

Have a fear of gold.

-No, I rather agree with that.

-I bet there is a fear of gold but...

A lot of people have a fear of bees. I know that because I...

I know that but I don't think it's that word.

I think to have a fear of bees is another word.

-That's positive.

-Android we think is robots.

-I think we should go with men.

-I think...yeah.

So basically what we're saying is we really don't know?

We don't know but...

We're going to have a stab at it.

I think we should.

The answer is androphobia is a fear of men.

So, Jack, having listened to your panel, what's your answer, honey?

LAUGHTER

Well, the panel made some really, really good points

but while they were talking,

I remember there's actually a creature in Dungeons & Dragons

called the androsphinx, which is like a normal sphinx

but instead of a woman's head it has a man's head.

So, I would like to change my answer from bees to men.

So I would like men.

You're agreeing with the panel

-but on a completely different plain of logic...

-Yes.

..which is not a surprise.

For £200, is androphobia the fear of men?

It is! APPLAUSE

Very well done, Jack. Very well played.

Thank you, guys.

Well done, panel. Andro means male or man in Greek.

Well done. We're up and running, £200.

OK, here comes your second question.

That's a very, very tricky one.

Cornea transplants are quite complicated,

so I don't think it's cornea but kidney transplants have been done

for a fairly long time, so I reckon kidney, just as an initial impulse.

As an initial impulse you're going for kidney.

Let's see what our panel make of this. Your debate starts now.

-Yeah.

-Well, let's just start with the cornea because...

..if you have an eye problem, that's not really

-life-threatening, is it?

-No.

So, I think this, seeing as it was the first...

-Card.

-..card, it would have been something that was probably

-could save your life...

-Yes.

-..this transplant.

-Hm.

-Shall we go with that?

-Yeah, totally.

-I agree with you.

-So, we'll rule cornea out?

-Cornea out.

I originally thought that it might be heart

but then I think heart is REALLY complicated thing to do

-and I think in '71...

-When was the first heart transplant?

Wasn't that... I think, wasn't that in the '80s?

-I think it was earlier.

-Was it earlier?

-I think it was the '60s actually.

-It was in the '60s?

-Yeah.

I seem to remember that there used to be cards

specifically for kidney donation.

-Yeah.

-So I reckon it was kidneys.

-How many kidneys do we have?

-Two.

-Two.

-So you can, in fact, donate one and still live.

-Yes, you can.

-Yeah.

-That's quite...

-So a relative can give you one of their kidneys.

-Yes.

I don't think it's liver either. I think we haven't touched on liver.

-Again, liver is a very complicated operation.

-It is.

-I think Jack was right.

-Yeah.

-So, we've come to our... I think we have?

-Yeah, totally.

-Yes, we have.

..to our conclusion and the panel's answer is kidney.

Anything in there, Jack, to make you change your mind?

Konnie seems really confident about this

and I know that she knows her stuff about science.

I'm going to go with that. I'm going to go with kidney.

OK, you're going with kidney. Konnie pretty certain about this.

-Yeah, I am.

-For £200, is kidney the correct answer?

Yeah!

Fantastic. Nice. Two for two.

Very well done. Another £200 in the bank,

bringing your total at the end of round one to £400.

Thank you very much, panel.

So, Jack, at the end of Round One, a 100% record.

You've played very well.

How do you think our panel are faring?

Very well. I think, two for two.

You know, I think they're being very modest,

which I wouldn't expect from actors but, you know.

They're doing a very good job.

You know, Biggins has been absolutely on the ball.

Konnie has been very right and very certain

and Nigel has a lovely speaking voice.

LAUGHTER

Let's see how they do with pictures. It's time for Round Two.

Round Two is your picture round, Jack.

All you have to do is place three pictures in the correct order.

There are two questions in this round.

Each correct answer is now worth £300, so best of luck. Here we go.

Well, Four Weddings is a classic, so I reckon that one was first.

I remember being sent to bed because my parents wanted to watch

The Full Monty and I was around about 11,

so I think that came out about 1999.

Trainspotting, I reckon is the latest.

So, I reckon Four Weddings, then The Full Monty, then Trainspotting.

-Based on the fact you were sent to bed?

-Yes.

OK. Let's hope our panel can help you out here

with their acting knowledge.

Your debate starts now.

Well, I agree with you. I think that

-Four Weddings And A Funeral is the earliest.

-Really?

Put a date on it, then.

Well, I reckon that's 30 years ago.

-Wow!

-Yeah.

-How time flies.

-I know.

That would be...

-'80s, late '80s.

-Late '80s.

No, it can't be, surely. Early '90s, let's put it like that.

Well, I don't know.

I definitely think it was the earliest of the three...

-Yeah.

-OK.

..but I disagree with the other two.

I think The Full Monty came after Trainspotting.

In fact, I think those are in the right order.

I sort of agree with you, you know.

-I have to say, they are three great films.

-Wonderful films.

I wished I'd been in one of them.

-LAUGHTER

-Everyone agree?

-Yes.

So, our answer is...

the oldest - Four Weddings,

middle - Trainspotting

and the youngest - The Full Monty.

Anything there to help you out?

I'm going to go with my instincts.

I reckon Four Weddings as the earliest,

The Full Monty in the middle and then Trainspotting as the last.

I'm going with that.

-OK. You are going against the panel.

-Absolutely.

So, for £300 from the earliest to the latest release date in the UK,

is that the correct order?

Oh!

-It's the wrong order, Jack.

-Ah.

Let's see the correct order.

-Yes.

-Should have gone with the panel.

Four Weddings And A Funeral, then Trainspotting, then The Full Monty.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda, but it does show

that Nigel knows what he's talking about, so it's not a complete loss.

LAUGHTER

Let's have a look at the dates.

Four Weddings And A Funeral - May 1994.

Trainspotting - February '96

-and you weren't sent to bed until August 1997.

-Oh.

Unfortunately, though, you went with your gut instinct.

You went against the panel.

No cash for that but you still have £400 in the prize pot.

All right, Jack,

let's have a look at your second picture question.

-What's your initial reaction on this?

-I don't know.

I think basketball's the lightest.

Croquet balls are normally made of wood. That's fairly light.

So, I reckon basketball is the lightest

followed by a croquet ball, followed by a beach volleyball.

Do you agree, panel? Your debate starts now.

Well, interesting,

-I've played quite a lot of croquet in my time.

-Yes.

-Have you?

-I have.

-Do you play croquet?

-I've played croquet before.

-It's a great game.

-The ball is quite heavy, though, isn't it?

-Very heavy.

-It has to be heavy otherwise it would fly off.

-Exactly.

-So, I hate to disagree with Jack.

-I know, I do as well.

I think the beach volleyball has to be light

because you've got to get it over that net

and in those sandy conditions and things.

I think that's probably

the lightest, I would've said.

Whereas I think basketball is, probably...

This is the difficult one,

between the basketball and the croquet

as being the heaviest.

But I would certainly instinctively go for the croquet

being the heaviest and the basketball being the middle one.

-Konnie? Have you played basketball?

-No, I haven't.

-No?

-You obviously have?

-No.

Beach volleyball, I've seen you.

-In just your little speedos.

-I know, my little speedos.

I think I would go with

the order of beach volleyball - the lightest,

-then the basketball, then the croquet.

-Yeah.

-Yes, I should have that then, the croquet.

-Yes.

And you should have... Whether you do in what order...

It's going to be a toss-up between the basketball

and a beach volleyball.

I think beach volleyball

-is definitely lighter.

-OK, fine.

-Shall we go with that?

-Yeah.

-I don't take any flak then if it goes wrong.

-No, exactly.

Jack, take note.

So, we think that the lightest ball is a beach volleyball.

The medium is basketball and the heaviest is the croquet ball.

All right, Jack.

I've never played croquet before,

so I might defer to the panel's judgment

on the croquet ball being the heaviest.

But what I would say is I reckon the basketball is the lightest.

Beach volleyball in the middle and then croquet as the heaviest.

So, I'm going to ignore my first answer and the panel's answer

and go with a brand-new one.

I like it, Jack. It's brave. You're swapping it around.

Your order is basketball - the lightest,

-beach volleyball, and croquet ball - the heaviest.

-Yeah.

OK, for £300, is that the correct order?

-Oh!

-It's the wrong order, Jack, I'm afraid.

Let's see the correct order.

The beach volleyball was the lightest, then the croquet ball,

-then the basketball, so the panel was also wrong.

-Oh.

The beach volleyball is 280g,

the croquet ball is 453g

and the basketball is 650g.

I'm afraid none of that is any use to us, Jack.

You didn't win the money there

but it means that the total amount banked at the end of that round

is £400.

So, no money in the prize pot for that round, I'm afraid, Jack,

but there's still £1,000 up for grabs as we play Round Three.

In this round, you'll face questions that contain three statements

that relate to a person, a place or a thing.

However, only one of those statements is correct

and we need you to find which one.

Again, two questions in this round.

Because it's your final round,

£500 up for grabs for each correct answer,

so let's see if we can get that money up.

Here it comes.

Well, the Queen's coronation I want to say was around about 1961.

And I know that Attlee was Prime Minister after the war

for four years,

so I think it was someone else who was Prime Minister

during the coronation.

I'm definitely sure that he died before 1967,

which I think was the Apollo 11 moon landing.

So, I think the answer is, by the process of elimination, C.

Over to our panel. Jack believes that he was an only child.

The debate starts now.

Well, I think you're absolutely right about the Queen's coronation

but I think the Queen's coronation was '53

so it wasn't '61 but I think you're right in saying that.

I don't think Winston Churchill was the Prime Minister then.

And Apollo 11 moon landing?

I think he died definitely before the Apollo 11 moon landing.

-Yes, I think so.

-I think that's absolutely for certain.

-Yeah.

And I'll tell you why, cos I was standing in Fleet Street

-as his coffin came past.

-Yes. Oh, were you?

-Yes, I was.

And I was taken out of school to be there

at this important historical moment

and that was definitely before sitting and watching...

I actually watched with my father the moon landing

-on a little black-and-white TV.

-Yes.

But the thing that grabs me is I can't remember

him having any siblings.

-No, I can't either.

-I just think...

That's why I agree with Jack that he was an only child.

Yeah. I can see that.

So, again, by pure Sherlock Holmes...

-Yes, process of elimination, as with Jack.

-We agree with Jack.

-We agree with Jack.

-Yeah.

So, we're going to say it's C - Winston Churchill was an only child.

So, Jack, they're going with your answer.

Well, the panel have been right on so many things

but it was something that...

and I think it was Nigel said, that the coronation was in 1953.

So 1953 and I know that Churchill had another go

at being Prime Minister after Attlee,

so Attlee, I think, was Prime Minister from '45 to '49

and then Churchill went in again after Attlee.

So, you know, I'm going to go against Past Jack and the panel.

I think he was Prime Minister at the Queen's coronation.

Who's Past Jack?

The Jack who said that Winston Churchill was an only child.

-The other Jack.

-Yes.

He's the one I blame most of my problems on.

LAUGHTER

So, you believe that the Queen was crowned

and Winston Churchill was there to see that magnificent event?

I reckon so, yes.

-OK.

-I reckon so.

If this is right, Jack, I'm going to give you a hug.

I'm not a big fan of hugs, just...

-Can we high-five?

-LAUGHTER

-We can high-five.

-A high-five is good.

We don't have to. I mean, we don't have to.

Can we have a nice, firm handshake instead?

Was Winston Churchill, for £500,

the Prime Minister at the Queen's coronation?

He was!

Let's have that firm handshake. Nice, firm...

-Well done, Jack.

-Well done, Jack.

-Very well done.

You did work it out from Attlee after the Second World War.

Winston Churchill was Prime Minister between 1940 and '45

and then 1951 to '55.

He died in 1965, Nigel. You saw that funeral in 1965.

The first moon landings were in 1969.

-And he had one other brother, named John.

-Oh.

So, £500 added to the prize pot, giving you £900 so far, Jack.

So, Jack, let's see if we can add that last £500.

Here is your next question.

Butterflies don't have tongues, we can all agree on that,

so they have to taste somehow to figure out which nectar is best

so, I reckon it's A.

So you're quite definite that butterflies don't have tongues?

-Absolutely.

-And we all should know that? FIRMLY:

-Yes.

When you say it like that, Jack, I believe that myself.

Jack is very definite that they taste with their feet.

Panel, your debate starts now.

I don't see why we should disagree with him.

-It frightens me if we do.

-LAUGHTER

Let's start at the bottom. They have lungs inside their bodies.

No, I don't believe that.

Where would their lungs be if they weren't inside their bodies?

-Well, I don't...

-They don't have lungs, in other words?

-No, they don't have lungs, I don't think.

-How do they breathe?

Through their... Through their feet.

OK, let's move on to... There are no butterflies in Australia.

-I can't believe that. That's ridiculous.

-Yeah.

Absolutely ridiculous.

They must've got there on some trade winds somewhere.

-Yes, of course they must.

-They start off as caterpillars...

-Yes.

..and caterpillars have lots of feet.

-They have masses of feet.

-Yeah.

And so butterflies have feet

cos they must keep at least a few of those through the metamorphosis.

And I'm sure there's caterpillars in Australia,

-so therefore there are butterflies in Australia.

-Exactly.

I think Jack is right. I think it's taste with their feet.

Yeah.

So that's two against one cos I don't think...

I think they have lungs inside their bodies.

But I'm going to go along with you two and Jack and say,

butterflies taste with their feet.

So, our panel have gone with taste in their feet,

against Nigel's better judgment. Jack?

I'm going to go with my initial answer of A,

agreeing with my past self and the panel.

A. It's A.

OK, for £500, do butterflies taste with their feet?

Eyy! Yes!

Butterflies taste with their feet.

They breathe through tiny openings on the side of their bodies

-called spiracles.

-Oh, yeah.

So, at the end of that joyous round,

I can tell you that the prize pot, Jack, is up to £1,400.

Yay!

APPLAUSE

Very well done and that's the amount that you're going to be playing for

in today's final debate.

Now, if you win that money, Jack, what would you like to do with it?

Well, I probably should spend it on a pram and nursery and things

but I'm probably going to lie to my wife and say that I lost

and spend it on cowboy boots.

Jack, as a married man, can I say, you'll be divorced.

LAUGHTER That's what it will be.

But I'll look fantastic.

But you'll look fantastic in that divorce case.

There is just one question standing between you

and those cowboy boots, Jack, and that is today's final debate.

In the final debate you will have only one question, Jack.

Six possible answers and we need three correct answers

in order for you to win the cash.

Now, you're not going to be playing alone,

you're going to be playing with one of our panel.

You can only choose one.

You and your celebrity will have 45 seconds on the clock

to debate that question.

So, Jack, who would you like to join you in the final debate?

Well, Konnie has just got such a broad knowledge base

but then she doesn't believe in herself and I find that worrying.

Nigel has been wrong on quite a lot of things

but he's got a really beautiful voice.

So, I'm going to have to go with my main man...Biggins.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

-It's you and me, Biggins. You and me.

-You're right.

-SHOUTING:

-We're going straight to the top together

and I want you with me.

This is your moment, Biggins. LAUGHTER

Please join us as we play today's final debate.

So, Biggins, Jack has chosen you for the final debate.

Are you prepared and ready for this?

We are so prepared, aren't we, Jack?

We are going home with £1,400.

Absol... Well, I am.

Of course you are, yes. And I'm going home with far less.

OK. Jack, you have two categories to choose from in your final debate.

Let's see if cowboy boots are up there.

How does that grab you there, Jack? What do you think?

By the throat.

-They were my two worst subjects in school.

-Oh.

I'm going to have to go with geography

and just trust the fate that it's going to work out.

Great, OK. I'm with you.

Geography, here we go. For £1,400,

here is today's 45 second final debate question.

Jack and Biggins, for the final time today,

your 45-second debate starts now.

OK, right, I don't reckon it's Greece

-cos that's just a big cross with some stripes.

-Yeah, I agree.

I don't reckon it's Japan cos that's just a red dot in the white field.

-Yes, you're right.

-Poland...

What does the Polish flag look like?

Stripes, I think, isn't it?

-Isn't it stripes?

-I think it's all stripy like a...

Yeah. Whereas I do think there's a star on New Zealand, Brazil and...

I'm not sure about Chile, though.

It's a toss-up between Poland and Chile.

-I reckon it's Brazil, New Zealand and Chile.

-Right.

-Biggins, what do you think?

-No, I agree. Let's go with that.

I'm not convinced about either of those.

-Whatever happens...

-Brazil and New Zealand, I'm with you,

but Poland and Chile, I'm not sure.

-You've gone with Chile, have you?

-I'm going to go with Chile.

-Biggins, you've been a wonderful man.

-Oh, thank you.

-You're...

-Have we got time for a hug?

We've got time for a hug, yes. Here we go.

There we go. Marvellous.

Bang on 45.

You told me you didn't like hugs.

Yeah, but I whispered under my breath,

"Unless it's with Biggins," so it's fine.

OK, Jack, I need your three answers.

Brazil, New Zealand and Chile.

-Oh, dear.

-Forthright answers.

-Oh, Jack, I hope we're right.

Confidence.

If they are our three correct answers,

you leave with the cash and you're in the cowboy boots, Jack.

Is Brazil a country that has stars on its national flag?

-BOTH:

-Yes!

-APPLAUSE

Brazil, Jack, has a whopping 27 stars on its flag.

Well played.

Next you said New Zealand.

Does New Zealand have stars on their national flag?

-Yeah!

-APPLAUSE

Two down, one to go. We're going to do this.

Four stars on the New Zealand flag, Jack.

And so we come down to Chile. You went for Chile, Jack.

It was a toss-up between Chile and Poland.

If Chile is the correct answer, you leave today with the money.

Is Chile the correct answer?

-Yeah!

-APPLAUSE

Yes!

-Thank you very much, guys.

-Well played, Jack.

Well done, what a player.

-Well done.

-Thank you so much.

Really fantastic.

-Chile has one star on its flag.

-One star.

From the others, you were right, Greece has stripes plus a cross.

Poland has two horizontal stripes and Japan has the red circle.

Well played, Jack. You go home with £1,400. Well played.

-Thank you.

-Well done. APPLAUSE

That is it today for Debatable.

There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel -

Christopher Biggins, Konnie Huq and Nigel Havers.

APPLAUSE I hope you've enjoyed watching.

We will see you next time for more heated debates.

For now, it's goodbye from me.