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£250,000.

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It's an acorn which we want grown into a great oak tree.

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Lord Sugar's on the hunt for a brand-new business partner.

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If you think this process is tough, it's just got a whole lot tougher.

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Over the next 12 weeks, you are out of your comfort zone.

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Ready to fight for his funding, 18 inspiring entrepreneurs.

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Supply and demand, that's what this is about.

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I'm demanding the answers, you better bloody well supply them.

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On the table, a quarter million pound investment.

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And a 50/50 partnership with Britain's toughest backer.

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You haven't used any of your skills, any of your knowledge.

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Mistake on that, mistake on this, straight in the bin.

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-Hey, Rich, come on!

-Let's go, mate.

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It's a deal worth battling for.

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I sold the most yesterday.

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-You did yesterday, but this morning you didn't.

-Whatever.

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-18 candidates...

-Hang on. Ooh!

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Common sense prevails.

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We're going to be...explosive!

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-..12 testing weeks...

-I really don't know what to do.

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I messed up a bit, didn't I?

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..one life-changing opportunity.

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You're fired. You're fired.

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This is a bad call on strategy.

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You're fired.

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Previously on The Apprentice...

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I'd like you to create your own healthy snacks.

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And then pitch to retailers.

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..Charleine's superfood bars came with added confusion...

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Ba-boo? The Boo-Ba Bar?

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The Baobab?

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..and ended up... SHE CHOKES

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..hard to swallow.

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-Do you like it?

-No.

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The other team plumped for crisps.

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I'm seeing the front of a packet with a massive V.

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It's basically just vegetables.

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But Brett's veggies...

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I think I need to put a little bit more olive oil.

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It's not mad science!

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..saw their chances slip away.

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I struggled to open the bag because of the amount of oil my fingers.

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In the boardroom...

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They didn't place any orders, Alan.

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They also didn't place any orders.

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No orders also?

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..a dead heat.

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That's ever happened before. You both lost.

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Charleine faltered.

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You want to take five minutes and go outside.

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Richard pleaded not guilty.

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I didn't know the process of cooking.

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-You DID know it was dehydrated. You DID know it was raw.

-Tricky Dicky.

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And for Brett...

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So what have you done in the ten weeks then?

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Been in the bottom three, three times.

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..it was crunch time.

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I'm going to have to let you go from the process and say you're fired.

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Thank you for everything, it's been amazing.

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He became the 13th casualty of the boardroom.

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Now, five remain to fight for the chance to become

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Lord Sugar's business partner.

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One week till Lord Sugar's final.

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PHONE RINGS

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The phone!

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Hello?

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'Lord Sugar would like you to meet him in the city at 8am tomorrow.

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'Make sure you don't forget your business plans.'

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Ahhh...

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This is what it's all about now, isn't it?

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What business plan?!

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Joseph?

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What?

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For the final five, 24 hours to knock their plans into shape.

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Beauty salon package for five times hair salon set-up...

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1.25 year two turnover...

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Lord Sugar would be happy with that.

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Former corporate business manager Gary Poulton...

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Competitor analysis, logistics...

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..has six years' experience and the UK's biggest retailer.

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I have been labelled as this corporate guy,

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this Corporate Gary, Corporate G.

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..market grown by over 3%...

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I need to demonstrate to Lord Sugar I am more than just Mr Corporate,

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I am this entrepreneur.

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Perfect.

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75,000...

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At 25, plumbing firm owner Joseph Valente is the youngest survivor.

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I don't have a great deal of experience in regards to interviews.

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..sales figures...

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What's wrong with me?

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I think a number of times throughout this process

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I've been out my comfort zone.

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Come on, Joe, you can do this!

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But I've come a long way from that 14-year-old boy

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that got expelled at school.

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Revenue of the US dating market, 2.2 billion...

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Business masters student, Vana Koutsomitis,

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is a social media entrepreneur with two internet businesses.

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I'm confident in my business plan because this is a passion for me.

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I've worked in the dating industry, I've done the relevant research.

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..number of online dating businesses, 3,800.

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It's crazy.

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I know that I can execute it properly.

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After last week's loss,

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hair salon owner Charleine Wain has a lot to prove.

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Being in that boardroom on the last task really got to me.

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..the defining feature that differentiates me is low-cost...

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The last time I had an interview was 15 years ago when I joined the Navy.

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So I am nervous, because I realise that I stutter at times.

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But I know I can do it.

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Holding the best record in the process,

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winning eight out of ten tasks,

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marketing agency director, Richard Woods.

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I've been project manager twice.

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The first task was the best advertising product that

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Lord Sugar has seen in a long time.

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And the second, we sold £4.2 million worth of property.

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They were the two standout tasks, I think, in the whole process.

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..net profits - 61,843.

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I've got a unique concept

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and a business plan that's really cutting edge.

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He'd be crazy to pass by Richard Woods.

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6am.

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-KNOCKING

-Morning, Richard! How are you feeling?

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Massively confident.

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I'm going to win.

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-CHANTS:

-I'm going to win! I'm going to win!

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-You're so annoying, honestly!

-HE LAUGHS

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-See you later!

-See you.

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The moustache.

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-I think it's time, guys.

-Yeah?

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Going to lose it, mate.

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I want a fresh look, smart and professional.

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-Say goodbye to the beautiful face!

-GARY LAUGHS

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ELECTRIC RAZOR WHIRS

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Aah!

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You look so different!

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-Don't grow it back, mate.

-Good. I'm glad you like it.

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Yeah, don't grow it back.

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At the heart of the City, the Leadenhall Building.

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Let's do this.

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-Good morning.

-ALL:

-Good morning, Lord Sugar.

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I've already invested a million pounds with previous winners.

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I'm about to invest another £250,000.

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So today, you are going to present your business plans

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to four of my advisers.

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And I look forward to seeing you in the boardroom,

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where I will be deciding which of you will be going through

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to the very final task.

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You will now hand your business plans to Karren and Claude.

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Waiting upstairs, four of Lord Sugar's toughest taskmasters.

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Publishing pioneer Mike Soutar

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has a gift for getting at the truth behind the headline.

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So you and your brother own an online marketing firm.

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It says on your company's home page that YOMP Marketing

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-is Surrey's number one digital marketing agency.

-Yes.

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Is that an award that you've won?

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I'm part of a business network and breakfast group

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that had a poll of which was the best marketing agency

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within that networking group.

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-So from a chat around a breakfast table...

-It's not good enough.

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..you're the number one marketing agency?

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It's not good enough, yeah, that's my mistake.

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That just appears like more than just a sloppy mistake,

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it appears to me to be misleading.

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Exposing the people behind the plans,

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managing director of a billion-pound media agency, Claudine Collins.

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Why does Lord Sugar call you Valentino?

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Cos my surname's Valente, the Italian,

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and I'm a bit of a romancer.

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Are you?

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I like to think so.

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Hmm.

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Lord Sugar's new recruit, no-nonsense Linda Plant,

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owner of an international interior design company,

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here to test who's tough enough to get to the top.

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In task ten, Charleine, didn't you leave the boardroom in tears?

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The thought of failure...

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-Reduced you to tears?

-It did.

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But how are you going to behave

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running a multi-million-pound organisation?

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Going to cry?

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And finally, returning to rake through the business plans,

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Lord Sugar's right-hand man, Claude Littner.

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So do you want me to give you a little bit

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of background about why I know there's an opportunity?

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Because obviously that's going to be your first question.

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Why don't you let me ask the first question rather than predicting it?

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It's going to be a long day.

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This is the most important day of the process.

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I'm feeling confident, though.

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-VANA CHUCKLES

-Good luck, Gary!

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So, Gary's obviously been in the corporate world

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for a number of years.

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He hasn't got any experience in running businesses.

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I think he's going to struggle.

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-VANA:

-But wouldn't you trust him with your business?

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Oh, he's good, there's no two ways about it.

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But we're all good, that's the point.

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Let's look at your CV.

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-You held a number of roles at the UK's largest retailer.

-Yeah.

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You say you were responsible for a property spend of £1 billion.

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That's correct, just over, yes.

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It was the largest property development programme

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for that business ever in history,

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and I don't think it will be repeated again.

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It's kind of hard to believe that somebody

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with your experience would be in charge of such a budget.

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Are... Are you guilty of embroidering the truth a little?

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Absolutely not.

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I'd say it's one of my key achievements in the business world.

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-Your references have said you didn't actually oversee budgets.

-I mean...

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You could say the CEO of the company

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was ultimately accountable for that budget,

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but in terms of the day-to-day managing,

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the responsibility was mine.

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-On your application, it says you led over 600 people...

-Yes.

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..to deliver this enormous property development programme.

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-Is that true?

-Absolutely, so in terms of leading...

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You were 600 people's boss?

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No, I wasn't their manager, but in terms of leading,

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600 people danced to the tune of my development programme.

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Your reference said that when you left,

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you were only in charge of three people.

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So what happened to the other 597?

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I was actually taken out of the corporate machine,

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and actually led a small, isolated special team,

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so I went from managing...

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Well, not managing, leading these 600 people,

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to actually physically line managing just two or three people.

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-LINDA:

-"I will be a worldwide hairdressing brand."

-Yes.

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"I will top Toni & Guy."

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Very big statements.

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Explain your business plan.

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It would be a training academy in London with, um...

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a fully working salon at the side, and then franchising out from that.

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What is your USP?

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I am very big with wedding hair.

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Have you done any international shows?

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Been down in the south-west...

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-But even if you're in the south-west...

-Yes...

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..an international hair competition would be good

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for building your brand.

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So have you done any of those?

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No, nothing international.

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I mean, look, I know you've got an award from the local newspaper.

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-It's good, but it's not enough.

-No.

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You haven't got a brand,

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you haven't even won a hairdressing competition.

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You know, you're going from one small, provincial salon

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to opening an academy.

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I mean, who's going to know your name?

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I'm a long way off of... obviously, where I want to be.

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I will absolutely work my socks off.

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I would absolutely sacrifice everything...

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I think you are... I think you are motivated, I think you're driven,

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but that's not what we're talking about here.

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We're talking about - are you capable?

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Can you meet those aspirations?

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I'm...

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I'm not convinced.

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"I'm not convinced." Yeah.

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-She is brutal!

-I can see it on your face!

-Really?

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-You just got torn apart.

-Jeez!

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She is like, "Who do you think you are?

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"What, you say you're going to be this,

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"you say you're going to be that? Don't be so stupid!"

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Then you go to say, "But I can!"

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and she's like, "No, you can't, don't be so silly!"

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You wait till you're in that room,

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you'll be sweating from every single finger.

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VANA LAUGHS

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See you.

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Joseph has a lot of confidence. You can even see it in his walk.

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He's so passionate about his business,

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he's almost itching for this opportunity

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to get it across to Lord Sugar's advisers.

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Come on, Joe, you can do this.

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LIFT DINGS

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So, you read Lord Sugar's book a few years ago,

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-and you say you didn't sleep for weeks.

-Yeah.

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-Is that right?

-It's right.

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What it did for me was gave me the inspiration to start my business.

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I thought, "Hang on a minute, all I need to do is get my own van,

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"make a sign, get a name, start a business, and I can do it myself."

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And then within a couple of days, I was ready to go.

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Well, that's either a very sincere tribute to the power of his words,

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or...it's the most blatant attempt

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-to butter him up but I have ever heard.

-Yeah.

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I've actually got a copy of his book.

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So maybe a little test here.

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-CLAUDINE:

-Vana, your business plan. Tell me what it is.

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OK, an online dating app

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that focuses on the gamification of dating.

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How would it work?

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You'd be matched with someone and you'd play a game with them.

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How am I matched with them?

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You're going to be matched based on age, location, obviously gender...

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What kind of games would we play?

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We could do brainteasers, for example,

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we can do, like, a flying game, where we are...

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Pretending to fly?

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Yes.

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How old was Lord Sugar when he founded Amstrad?

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-19?

-Yeah, very good.

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What was the first commodity he bought and sold?

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-Car aerials.

-Absolutely spot on.

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As you play more games with this person,

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-their picture becomes visible...

-Clear.

-Yeah.

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So basically, in the beginning, the picture will be a little blurred,

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so you'll be able to see a silhouette,

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then your features will become clear as you play more games.

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-You'll be able to see who the potential date is.

-I...

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I'll tell you what I'm struggling with, right...

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It's that it takes you right to the end of the day

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to actually see that person.

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I think after wasting my time finding someone who's very nice,

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but totally not my type at all, I'd get fed up and I'd leave.

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And who was his first employee?

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His first employee...

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Um... Was it his father?

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Yeah, it was. Very good.

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Not Claude Littner!

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JOSEPH LAUGHS

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"Project X.

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"A fully managed and implemented business growth campaign

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"that starts with a focused base camp

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"to remove the clouds from the client's business growth mountain...

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"..so they clearly see the summit they're aiming for."

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This is what differentiates us from other marketing agencies out there,

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this four-step process strategized with you, implemented for you.

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(God.)

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Yeah. I...

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I'm none the wiser.

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It's like a bad 1980s marketing book.

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It's mumbo jumbo.

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Particularly with someone like Lord Sugar, who likes it straight,

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honest, direct - you can't be evasive with him.

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I mean, look, the thing is, Richard,

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I've been observing you over a long period now.

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You're not without ability.

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It's just the way you've gone about things

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just leads me to believe that you're not...

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You're not straight, you've got, like, a little agenda.

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-RICHARD SIGHS

-I'm just so competitive,

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and my focus, I think,

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has been very much on making the team win the task.

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You HAVE saved the day on a number of occasions,

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but I can't shake that feeling off

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that you've been a bit slippery and a bit political.

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-MIKE:

-Let's get into the detail of the business plan.

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Your business aims to sell franchises

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to gas plumbers nationwide

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who want to trade under your brand.

0:17:420:17:44

Yeah, to sell the winning formula that I built my business on.

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So, in terms of costs,

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-you charge a fee at the beginning which is how much?

-25,000.

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-£25,000, and then 10% of the monthly turnover of every business.

-Yeah.

0:17:540:18:00

How much turnover did your business have in the last year?

0:18:000:18:03

Around 370,000.

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So how much would you have had to pay yourself

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if you'd been under this franchise?

0:18:090:18:11

Um...

0:18:110:18:12

-65,000.

-And how much profit did you make last year?

-I made 60,000.

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So if you'd been your own franchisee,

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you'd have made a loss of £5,000 in the year.

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You've created something where the costs are simply too high

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for the franchisee to bear.

0:18:310:18:34

Yeah. Right. OK, well, we can look at that, then.

0:18:340:18:36

It's the element that, at the moment,

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holds this under the water line.

0:18:390:18:41

-Yeah.

-This is a business plan that is sinking on its numbers.

0:18:410:18:45

-SHE SIGHS

-Come on!

0:18:560:18:57

-CLAUDE:

-So, Charleine,

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you say that your salon brings in £150,000 turnover per annum.

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-Yes.

-But the thing is,

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having one salon is quite different to having a franchise.

0:19:070:19:12

You talk about a training academy, but there again,

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you leave me with no clue as to whether this actually makes money.

0:19:150:19:19

-Yes.

-Cos Lord Sugar wants...

-Wants profit.

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Training academies are a massive earner.

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-How do you know that?

-With...

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With the successful ones.

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For instance, a make-up tattoo course,

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if you've only got ten people on your course

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and the course is five days, that's 50 grand in five days.

0:19:330:19:35

£50,000, very nice if you can get it. Can you get it?

0:19:350:19:38

I would need to make sure that I market myself.

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I know I will absolutely work my socks off to be an icon

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where people will want to come to.

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I'm sure that you will work your socks off.

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-You put 100% into everything you do.

-Yes.

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But doesn't it make more sense from an investment point of view to say,

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"I've got one salon, do you know what I'm going to do?

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"I'm going to build on that salon, and I'm going to get another salon,

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"then I'm running two salons..."

0:20:000:20:01

I'm here because I don't want to do a low-key business any more,

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I want to be big, I want to do an absolute, massive business

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with a great financial turnover, and I want to be very, very successful.

0:20:070:20:11

Look, Charleine, aren't you just leaping forward with a dream?

0:20:110:20:15

It's all a great big wish list.

0:20:150:20:17

Thanks a lot.

0:20:170:20:18

Thank you very much, Claude.

0:20:180:20:20

'I am this small salon.'

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But I just need to make them understand that I can make it work.

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-Let's do this.

-Good luck.

0:20:290:20:31

Richard being the one that obviously woke up this morning saying,

0:20:320:20:36

"I'm a winner, I'm a winner, I'm a winner!"

0:20:360:20:38

I feel like Richard's got to make sure that confidence

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doesn't get portrayed as arrogance.

0:20:400:20:43

Hi there.

0:20:440:20:45

Project X.

0:20:460:20:48

Sounds very intriguing.

0:20:480:20:51

It's an outsourced marketing department

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that grows small businesses.

0:20:530:20:54

There's a lot of marketing agencies out there,

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and therefore having this unique four-step business growth concept

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of climbing up a mountain allows me to articulate

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why we're different to other people.

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-So is that what this...

-Yes.

-..is there to represent?

0:21:050:21:08

And so this concept here is unique?

0:21:080:21:11

This concept is unique...

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It's not unique at all, though, Richard, is it?

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Because you've already posted this on social media before.

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What you're suggesting here, what you're trying to sell

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to Lord Sugar as being a completely unique approach, isn't.

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It's something which has the branding of your current company..?

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This is a positive thing, because this product has been tested,

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and has got a track record we can work forward, and then that...

0:21:400:21:44

Richard, Richard. It's not original, it's not unique.

0:21:440:21:47

This is from the marketing company

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that you own 50/50 with your brother.

0:21:480:21:51

-You've been rumbled.

-I...

0:21:510:21:53

There's absolutely no rumbling. I...

0:21:530:21:55

I know Lord Sugar has called you Tricky Dicky in the boardroom,

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and I'm beginning to get a sense of why.

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That's a...very strange name to have given me, and the...

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-HE SIGHS

-I...

0:22:060:22:08

HE SIGHS

0:22:080:22:09

So I wonder how Tricky Dicky got on?

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-GARY:

-I'm sure he'll tell us he's done very well.

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-CHARLEINE:

-Do you reckon Richard would actually say the truth

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if he'd had a rocky ride?

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He won't show weakness.

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I don't think he'd want to lose face in front of us, do you?

0:22:210:22:24

-Richard...

-VANA:

-Dicky, how are you?

0:22:240:22:26

THEY LAUGH

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-Out of 10?

-11 out of 10!

0:22:280:22:30

THEY LAUGH

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-I nailed it!

-THEY LAUGH

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Wait, so they didn't go through your business plan?

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Yeah, of course, they went through the business plan stuff,

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-so that was all fine. Um...

-Was that all good, yeah?

-Yeah.

0:22:380:22:41

-Joseph...

-Yes?

0:22:430:22:44

You've said about yourself, "I'm the definition of success."

0:22:440:22:49

-Are you serious?

-I'm not yet, but I think I will be one day.

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You say you work seven days a week

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and survive on three hours' sleep a night.

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You've got to sacrifice these years.

0:22:560:22:58

There's no way that people that become major successful didn't.

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But I don't think there's anything wrong

0:23:010:23:02

with living like that, because...

0:23:020:23:04

-I've got to tell you, I enjoy it so much.

-Mm.

0:23:040:23:06

I love sitting in my office

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and spending time and developing new ideas

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and thinking of new things, and making more money.

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But when will you be able to say, "I've been successful"?

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I don't know when I'll be able to say that,

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because I'm not going to stop

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until I get Lord Sugar a large return on his investment.

0:23:200:23:23

-No matter what, I'm not going to stop until I...

-Yeah, I...

0:23:230:23:27

Believe me, I believe you.

0:23:270:23:28

-I just want the world and everything in it.

-Thank you very much.

0:23:280:23:32

-Thank you very much for your time.

-Thank you.

0:23:320:23:34

Please tell Lord Sugar I'm the right person to be his business partner!

0:23:340:23:37

SHE LAUGHS

0:23:370:23:38

-I might, I might not!

-Thank you very much.

0:23:380:23:41

-GARY:

-Afternoon.

0:23:440:23:46

Gary.

0:23:460:23:48

Nice to meet you.

0:23:480:23:49

Your business plan, Celebration Disco,

0:23:520:23:54

-the new global entertaining business.

-Yes.

0:23:540:23:57

Just for me to understand, it's a mobile disco, right?

0:23:570:24:01

As it stands at the moment, yeah,

0:24:010:24:03

very, very successful predominantly in the West Midlands, but...

0:24:030:24:06

-What do you charge for...?

-An average event is around £350.

0:24:060:24:10

-How many gigs a week are you doing?

-Er...

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We're looking at doing 2,000 a year.

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We're only scratching the surface in the UK.

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I really want to tackle events and entertainment globally.

0:24:160:24:19

How are you going to do that?

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I mean, at the moment, you're just a mobile disco, aren't you?

0:24:200:24:24

-You're far from a global event planner.

-Yes.

0:24:240:24:27

How are you going to bring something new or different to an event?

0:24:270:24:31

I mean, an event's an event, but we use the latest in technology,

0:24:310:24:34

so whether it be virtual presentation, the latest lighting...

0:24:340:24:37

-But lighting, I mean....

-Yeah.

0:24:370:24:39

..it's nothing special, is it? Everybody has lighting.

0:24:390:24:42

I totally get your point,

0:24:420:24:43

and obviously in my mind, I can see it as clear as day.

0:24:430:24:46

It's going to revolutionise the market,

0:24:460:24:48

it's going to turn events and entertainment into experiences.

0:24:480:24:51

I don't think it is.

0:24:510:24:52

-MIKE:

-It's called Playdate.

0:24:530:24:55

I think it's kind of a cute play on words, don't you think?

0:24:550:24:58

It gives you the understanding, in the name, of what the app will do.

0:24:580:25:03

-You will be able to play games and date simultaneously.

-OK.

0:25:030:25:08

-Have you used online dating before?

-I have not.

-OK.

0:25:080:25:11

So, the good news is that I've decided to target it at quality men.

0:25:110:25:15

You get the good quality men there, and that will attract the women.

0:25:150:25:18

-Afternoon. Gary.

-Hi.

0:25:180:25:21

I'm struggling to understand at all what the technology bit is in this.

0:25:230:25:27

The product is to bring the events and entertainment to life

0:25:270:25:30

and make it an experience for consumers.

0:25:300:25:32

I like to use the words "innovative" and "multi-channel"...

0:25:320:25:35

Right, you've lost me, sorry.

0:25:350:25:37

-What's the interactive parties in virtual locations?

-Um...

0:25:370:25:41

So the interactive parties are getting people from remote locations

0:25:410:25:45

to be there in person.

0:25:450:25:47

People doing wedding speeches from Australia,

0:25:470:25:49

and they almost feel like they're in the room.

0:25:490:25:51

We actually have in-app services where people can time

0:25:510:25:54

the best man speech and have a bit of interaction in that.

0:25:540:25:57

It's something quirky, something new, I can't see anything else

0:25:570:25:59

-in the industry like this that exists at the moment.

-SHE SIGHS

0:25:590:26:02

Maybe cos there isn't a necessity for it.

0:26:020:26:04

Mm.

0:26:040:26:05

Thought-provoking, if nothing less.

0:26:070:26:10

So, your start-up costs, actually developing the app, are £140,000.

0:26:110:26:16

-Yes.

-And then you're burning £32,000 every month.

0:26:160:26:21

At what point do you go out of business

0:26:210:26:23

-if you haven't booked any revenue?

-Six months.

0:26:230:26:25

But I know that in my projections,

0:26:250:26:27

I'm already making profit in six months.

0:26:270:26:30

Dating apps, like the one that you're proposing,

0:26:300:26:33

take years to book any revenue. Isn't that right?

0:26:330:26:37

Not necessarily,

0:26:370:26:38

because people are used to paying for online dating,

0:26:380:26:40

and people are open to paying.

0:26:400:26:42

Do you know how long it took for the world's biggest dating app

0:26:420:26:45

to book a single dollar of revenue?

0:26:450:26:48

-Yes, one year.

-Two years.

0:26:480:26:50

It took two years for them to create any revenue at all.

0:26:510:26:56

Well, I don't think it will be so difficult...

0:26:560:26:58

Even if you did this within one year,

0:26:580:27:00

the cost burn on this business

0:27:000:27:01

is so great that you would be out of business.

0:27:010:27:04

But I don't think that it's completely ludicrous.

0:27:040:27:07

SHE SIGHS

0:27:140:27:16

Oh, my God, that was so hard!

0:27:160:27:19

I was, like, running to the elevator, I was like,

0:27:190:27:22

"Get me off this floor!"

0:27:220:27:23

-JOSEPH LAUGHS

-There was a certain point where my blood was, like, boiling,

0:27:230:27:27

but I kept it cool.

0:27:270:27:28

All good.

0:27:280:27:29

Last one of the day, you can do this, Joe.

0:27:310:27:33

HE SIGHS

0:27:330:27:34

-Are you really Joseph?

-Am I really Joseph? Yes.

0:27:400:27:43

Oh! The new and improved Joseph.

0:27:440:27:47

-I'm ready for business.

-You reckon?

0:27:470:27:49

Hopefully.

0:27:490:27:50

So, basically, Claude, the business

0:27:500:27:52

is a plumbing and heating franchise of my existing business.

0:27:520:27:55

You've got some very significant competition,

0:27:550:27:57

large, large companies who are doing franchises.

0:27:570:28:00

They've got nationwide reputations, budgets...

0:28:000:28:04

-You are a very small player. No-one knows you.

-Yeah.

0:28:040:28:07

And I worry, I genuinely worry,

0:28:070:28:09

whether the franchise model at this point in time makes sense.

0:28:090:28:13

I'd just like to say, please don't be worried.

0:28:130:28:15

I feel very, very confident, and I do understand that sometimes,

0:28:150:28:18

-you know, don't run before you can walk, but...

-Right.

0:28:180:28:20

Claude, if I hadn't have run before I could walk,

0:28:200:28:22

then I wouldn't be here right now.

0:28:220:28:24

A small business is very hard to run,

0:28:240:28:26

and if I can do that, why can't I...

0:28:260:28:28

you know, become a very big businessman?

0:28:280:28:31

Well, if you think a small business is hard to run,

0:28:310:28:33

-let me tell you, a big business doesn't get any easier.

-Yeah.

0:28:330:28:36

I think you're barking up the wrong tree,

0:28:360:28:38

because the move to having a franchise

0:28:380:28:40

is a completely different skill set, a completely different model.

0:28:400:28:43

Yeah.

0:28:430:28:44

I mean, I take all your feedback on board, Claude.

0:28:440:28:47

I feel that there is a lot of ways that this business plan can adapt.

0:28:470:28:52

I can tweak it slightly, if there's a different way I can go around it,

0:28:520:28:55

then I'm happy to look at that, but I think the core concept is there.

0:28:550:28:59

If Lord Sugar invests in me, he will not lose his money,

0:28:590:29:02

he will make a profit.

0:29:020:29:04

Project X.

0:29:070:29:08

Yes.

0:29:080:29:10

I haven't got a bloody clue what it's about.

0:29:100:29:12

-I thought it was mountain climbing. "Base camp."

-Yes.

0:29:120:29:15

-"Unlock the gold mine."

-Yes.

0:29:150:29:18

-The trailblazing... Yeah, the, um...

-Yeah, what is a trailblazer?

0:29:180:29:22

-A...

-I'm sorry?

-A trailblazer is a...

0:29:220:29:24

-Is it someone who does something first?

-Yes. Exactly.

0:29:240:29:27

You haven't done anything first, have you, Richard?

0:29:270:29:30

-This four-step...

-Ever.

0:29:300:29:31

Well... Um...

0:29:340:29:35

I know you did well in the tasks.

0:29:350:29:38

But in your current business, last year, it made 17,000.

0:29:380:29:43

Yes, that's correct.

0:29:430:29:45

In your business plan, you stated that this company with Lord Sugar

0:29:450:29:48

is going to be worth three million by year three.

0:29:480:29:51

Why should Lord Sugar believe that, you know, if you've made 17 grand,

0:29:510:29:55

that with the new business, you're going to make three million?

0:29:550:29:59

I mean...

0:29:590:30:01

Is it bullshit?

0:30:010:30:02

I think it's bullshit.

0:30:020:30:04

I don't think it's bullshit.

0:30:040:30:06

I think that with this sort of investment,

0:30:060:30:08

I'll be able to quickly scale this corporation up. My current...

0:30:080:30:11

I don't believe it.

0:30:110:30:13

I don't think the fees...

0:30:130:30:15

Your past performance, it doesn't give me

0:30:150:30:17

any confidence in your future growth.

0:30:170:30:20

I've...

0:30:210:30:22

produced a business plan here that, to be honest with you,

0:30:220:30:26

has a lot of waffle in it.

0:30:260:30:27

Well, I think you're the type of guy that feels you can write

0:30:270:30:30

a lot of bullshit and no-one'll see the truth underneath.

0:30:300:30:34

-That's what I think you've done here.

-I...

0:30:340:30:36

I think I'm...

0:30:360:30:38

I think I'm agreeing with you.

0:30:380:30:40

Thank you.

0:30:410:30:42

Aaaargh!

0:30:520:30:55

I've thrown it away.

0:30:550:30:56

It's just stupid, just...

0:31:050:31:07

absolute pretentious crap that I let come out of my mouth sometimes.

0:31:070:31:11

Oh, look, he got beaten!

0:31:190:31:21

THEY LAUGH

0:31:210:31:22

Look at that!

0:31:220:31:23

-Well?

-Oh, my God!

0:31:230:31:25

-No way!

-THEY LAUGH

0:31:250:31:28

What did they say?

0:31:280:31:30

Oh, I was torn apart, I was torn apart.

0:31:300:31:33

Quite right, as well.

0:31:330:31:35

Do you wish you could go back and speak to her

0:31:350:31:37

and tell her a few more things?

0:31:370:31:38

There's nothing more to be said!

0:31:380:31:40

THEY LAUGH

0:31:400:31:42

There's nothing more to be said.

0:31:420:31:44

-HE SIGHS

-Maybe ask her out for some dinner, that's about all I've got!

0:31:440:31:47

Oh, dear!

0:31:470:31:49

I want my mum!

0:31:510:31:52

Your projections are wildly optimistic.

0:31:530:31:56

After 12 months, suddenly, instead of 50,000 members,

0:31:560:31:59

the number of people you've got

0:31:590:32:01

jumps phenomenally to 400,000 a month.

0:32:010:32:04

That's the way that these apps tend to work.

0:32:040:32:07

-You usually do see a big increase...

-Unless you don't.

0:32:070:32:09

Unless you don't, of course. Unless, in fact, you don't.

0:32:090:32:12

If you've got something that works,

0:32:120:32:13

it might be that hockey stick, but if it doesn't, if it takes longer,

0:32:130:32:16

you need to be mindful of the fact

0:32:160:32:18

-that you're going to run out of money.

-Yes.

0:32:180:32:19

The numbers are optimistic,

0:32:190:32:21

but you probably won't see another business plan

0:32:210:32:23

that's projecting to make £7 million profit after three years.

0:32:230:32:27

This is a space that's exploding right now.

0:32:270:32:30

There is room for gamification of dating.

0:32:300:32:32

I know that I can be a really successful hairdresser.

0:32:330:32:36

I want to see our brand, our logo, absolutely everywhere,

0:32:360:32:39

and I want to make sure that every franchise,

0:32:390:32:41

every salon that does open, is successful.

0:32:410:32:43

Where does your drive and determination

0:32:430:32:45

and motivation come from?

0:32:450:32:47

The truth, why I got into hairdressing, I lost a child,

0:32:470:32:51

and I was in a very bad place.

0:32:510:32:53

For me, now, with the salon

0:32:530:32:55

and trying to make it as successful as possible,

0:32:550:32:57

I know that life can be over within a drop of a hat,

0:32:570:33:01

and I want my children to have absolutely everything,

0:33:010:33:04

and I want them to know that they can be as successful

0:33:040:33:06

as what they want to be,

0:33:060:33:07

and they can do absolutely anything in life,

0:33:070:33:09

and I'm going to be the mum that does that for them.

0:33:090:33:12

I'm really upset with myself for...

0:33:140:33:17

doing exactly the opposite to what's got me here today,

0:33:170:33:20

which is keeping things simple, being honest, being myself.

0:33:200:33:22

I was the leading candidate in wins coming into this process,

0:33:220:33:25

and I'm just... I've gone and thrown it all away.

0:33:250:33:28

Do you still truly believe in your concept, in your business plan?

0:33:280:33:32

I believe that if the wind blew on it

0:33:320:33:35

and knocked off all the leaves,

0:33:350:33:36

what's left underneath is a really good, simple idea,

0:33:360:33:39

which is basically work with small businesses,

0:33:390:33:42

and use their whole marketing budget,

0:33:420:33:44

and make sure that's accountable against their growth.

0:33:440:33:47

That's the simple concept.

0:33:470:33:49

What I've done is I've overcomplicated it,

0:33:490:33:51

and I wouldn't blame Lord Sugar for not investing in it.

0:33:510:33:55

One tough interview would have been enough, to be honest with you,

0:33:590:34:03

but to have four back-to-back at that level of grilling...

0:34:030:34:07

Put a lot of things into perspective,

0:34:070:34:09

to make me realise there may be certain things

0:34:090:34:11

that I want to slightly tweak.

0:34:110:34:14

You've just got to hope that they've bought into your passion.

0:34:140:34:17

All comes down to tomorrow!

0:34:170:34:19

'I'm not going to lie, the interviews were absolutely brutal.

0:34:300:34:34

'But I've got to go in there, fight my corner,

0:34:340:34:37

'and I will keep fighting till the very end.'

0:34:370:34:40

'I think it was difficult for people to buy into me on first impressions.

0:34:410:34:45

'There's still a lot of convincing to do,

0:34:450:34:47

'but I'm not going to go down without a fight.'

0:34:470:34:50

'I believe I impressed the interviewers.

0:34:500:34:53

'However, my concept's a risk, and I know it's going to be

0:34:530:34:56

'a risk for Lord Sugar, but hopefully he sees beyond that.'

0:34:560:34:59

'I completely understand the feedback

0:34:590:35:01

'that I got on my business plan, but I would say that

0:35:010:35:04

'I still have 100% faith in my idea,

0:35:040:35:05

'and I still really want to pursue it.'

0:35:050:35:08

'I've never experienced anything like that in my life.

0:35:080:35:11

'Today is the first boardroom that I'm really worried to go into.

0:35:110:35:15

'I've been ripped to shreds, and I've got a lot of work to do today

0:35:150:35:19

'if I'm going to survive.'

0:35:190:35:20

Well, good morning. Welcome to this very important part of the process.

0:35:340:35:38

And we welcome Linda to my boardroom for the first time.

0:35:380:35:42

Linda and I go back well over 20 years,

0:35:420:35:45

and I know she's a very, very shrewd business lady.

0:35:450:35:48

Do you want to start me off with Charleine, Linda?

0:35:480:35:51

I think Charleine is a fighter.

0:35:510:35:53

She's got stamina, and she would work really hard.

0:35:530:35:57

But her expectations are probably beyond her ability.

0:35:570:36:02

What is her expectation?

0:36:020:36:04

She wants to start a hairdressing academy, franchise...

0:36:040:36:10

The next Toni & Guy, for example?

0:36:100:36:12

They've been going since the old Queen died.

0:36:120:36:14

-They opened their first shop in 1963.

-Yeah.

0:36:140:36:18

-It wasn't until 25 years later...

-Right...

0:36:180:36:20

..that they actually franchised.

0:36:200:36:22

Claude has actually been following these people around

0:36:220:36:25

for the last ten weeks. What's your view?

0:36:250:36:27

The thing is, she has been a fantastic candidate

0:36:270:36:30

in terms of her selling ability

0:36:300:36:31

and her drive, and she's got one salon in Plymouth, 12 employees,

0:36:310:36:35

and I think she can replicate that over a number of salons.

0:36:350:36:38

Going beyond that might be problematic.

0:36:380:36:40

She will not give up. She's got determination...

0:36:400:36:43

Well, she might have to give up,

0:36:430:36:44

because for her to grow as big as Toni & Guy, I mean, it's like...

0:36:440:36:47

expecting Claude to grow an afro.

0:36:470:36:49

THEY LAUGH

0:36:490:36:50

All right, let's move on, then, to Gary.

0:36:500:36:53

Gary's very fond of exaggerating his importance.

0:36:530:36:56

He was absolutely insistent that he'd had a billion-pound budget,

0:36:560:37:00

-that he'd had a team of 600 people...

-Him personally?

-Yeah.

0:37:000:37:03

His interpretation of managing 600 people is very,

0:37:030:37:07

very different to mine.

0:37:070:37:09

Mm. What about his business idea?

0:37:090:37:11

It shows him running something like 2,000 events in his first year

0:37:110:37:16

-and charging around about £300...

-£300?

-..average for each...

0:37:160:37:20

What's he going to get for 300 quid?

0:37:200:37:22

That sounds like an event for the Piers Morgan fan club.

0:37:220:37:25

-THEY LAUGH

-Where about two people turn up!

0:37:250:37:28

When he spoke to me, his USP was an app.

0:37:280:37:31

If you're in Australia and you want to be part of a party

0:37:310:37:34

that's happening in London, the app will allow you to do that.

0:37:340:37:38

You're not physically there but you're joining in?

0:37:380:37:40

You're not physically there.

0:37:400:37:41

So if you forgot your anniversary, you could say, "Sorry, darling,

0:37:410:37:44

"I'm going to throw you a virtual party."

0:37:440:37:46

-Yeah!

-Party planners are normally quite fun people, aren't they?

0:37:460:37:49

I mean, he's very corporate.

0:37:490:37:51

I can't imagine him turning up and throwing a few tunes.

0:37:510:37:54

No, neither can I!

0:37:540:37:56

OK, now, Joseph.

0:37:560:37:58

Joseph wants your investment to create a gas plumbing brand,

0:37:580:38:02

and then take that out and franchise it.

0:38:020:38:05

It's based on the business that he has already started from scratch.

0:38:050:38:09

The franchise idea, again, is a bit like Charleine's thing,

0:38:090:38:13

it's a non-starter.

0:38:130:38:15

He realises that he's very ambitious, and he's quite happy

0:38:150:38:17

to temper his ideas into something that could perhaps be a slower burn.

0:38:170:38:22

-But he's got a way to go to get there.

-He's incredibly driven.

0:38:220:38:26

He absolutely loves what he does.

0:38:260:38:28

But take the property task.

0:38:280:38:30

He ran off dealing with the high-end stuff,

0:38:300:38:33

and really, he was a fish out of water.

0:38:330:38:36

He's rough round the edges,

0:38:360:38:37

but he's not a fish out of water in the plumbing business.

0:38:370:38:41

OK, so we've got Vana.

0:38:410:38:43

She wants to start a dating app.

0:38:430:38:46

I'm not sure if that's going to make me Cupid or stupid!

0:38:460:38:49

THEY LAUGH

0:38:490:38:51

It's a marketplace that is booming at the moment, and I think that

0:38:510:38:54

she's an incredibly clever girl.

0:38:540:38:55

We've seen that throughout the tasks.

0:38:550:38:57

I think she could possibly make it work.

0:38:570:39:00

The concept is, you are matched up with someone,

0:39:000:39:02

but you don't see who that person is, and you play games with them...

0:39:020:39:07

-Right...

-..then finally at the end of the day,

0:39:070:39:10

their picture becomes revealed.

0:39:100:39:12

So you go through all of this palaver,

0:39:120:39:14

and then in the end, you get shown a picture of the person,

0:39:140:39:18

and at that point, you go...

0:39:180:39:20

"My God, what a bleedin' ugbo!"

0:39:200:39:22

THEY LAUGH

0:39:220:39:23

-Yeah.

-How far does her money go?

0:39:230:39:25

Cos building websites and apps and gaming sounds...

0:39:250:39:28

Therein lies the problem, because I think that the £250,000

0:39:280:39:32

investment would go very, very quickly.

0:39:320:39:35

Within six months, she'd blow the money.

0:39:350:39:37

But you mustn't forget that the leading app

0:39:370:39:39

for dating in the world has 50 million users.

0:39:390:39:43

The idea of gamification is also really smart,

0:39:430:39:47

these are the two hottest areas in mobile apps,

0:39:470:39:50

and she's put them together.

0:39:500:39:51

If she gets it right, it could be absolutely enormous.

0:39:510:39:56

Let's talk about Richard.

0:39:560:39:58

Well I think throughout all the tasks, he wants to keep it simple,

0:39:580:40:01

and yet, when you look at this document, I couldn't understand it.

0:40:010:40:04

-I think he was beaten by the time he got to me.

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:40:040:40:08

But ultimately,

0:40:080:40:09

the idea, an outsourced marketing department, is not a bad idea, Alan.

0:40:090:40:14

-And he's quite a bright individual.

-He does know about marketing.

0:40:140:40:18

I mean, the advertising task this year was one of the best we've seen.

0:40:180:40:21

-Yeah.

-What I find worrying is that he is involved currently

0:40:210:40:26

in a digital marketing business.

0:40:260:40:28

Doesn't that mean he's got...? It's a competing business?

0:40:280:40:31

What he tried to say was, "These are separate businesses,

0:40:310:40:34

"and the business I'm proposing to Lord Sugar is different."

0:40:340:40:38

Unfortunately, though, within the business plan, there's a graphic.

0:40:380:40:42

Well, this is a graphic that his previous marketing company

0:40:420:40:45

produced, so the idea that what he's trying to present here to you, Alan,

0:40:450:40:49

is something that's completely new...

0:40:490:40:51

It's false.

0:40:510:40:53

Thank you very much indeed for your input, it's been very,

0:40:530:40:56

very helpful, and I'll see you soon.

0:40:560:40:58

-Thanks a lot.

-Thank you.

0:40:580:41:00

PHONE RINGS

0:41:080:41:10

Yes, Lord Sugar.

0:41:100:41:11

-Can you send the five candidates in, please?

-Yes, Lord Sugar.

0:41:110:41:14

You can go through to the boardroom now.

0:41:140:41:17

-Anybody want to volunteer to talk to me first of all?

-I will.

-OK, Vana.

0:41:280:41:33

-Your business idea is a dating...

-App.

-..application, yeah?

0:41:330:41:39

-Yes, it focuses on making dating fun using these games.

-Right.

0:41:390:41:44

Games that range from psychometric tests

0:41:440:41:47

to brain puzzles to brain-teasers,

0:41:470:41:49

and it will use science to match people.

0:41:490:41:52

Here's my issue.

0:41:520:41:53

The business that you are proposing,

0:41:530:41:55

and I'm only going historically with dating websites,

0:41:550:41:58

have multi-million pound investments to even get off the ground.

0:41:580:42:04

How are you going to do it with £250,000?

0:42:040:42:06

You know, if you tell me that it's impossible,

0:42:060:42:08

I will just tell you that I disagree with you wholeheartedly,

0:42:080:42:12

and that £250,000 can take us a long way. I...

0:42:120:42:15

According to him, it'd take you about six months.

0:42:150:42:17

Well, to go through the money.

0:42:170:42:18

In the six months, I hope to be generating enough revenue

0:42:180:42:21

to cover the costs of the project.

0:42:210:42:24

The most popular dating application at the moment, Tinder -

0:42:240:42:29

it's taken them two years to generate a bit of revenue now.

0:42:290:42:33

Yes, but there is room for this, I'm telling you.

0:42:330:42:36

-This is a trend that is here to stay.

-Hmm.

0:42:360:42:39

-Gary.

-Yes, Lord Sugar.

-Um...

0:42:390:42:41

-You left your big retailer, yeah?

-Yes.

0:42:410:42:44

Where you claim that you led a team of 600 people.

0:42:440:42:48

Absolutely right. They gave me a budget of £1 billion and said,

0:42:480:42:51

-"Make it happen." Simple as that.

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:42:510:42:53

-And you were the boss, were you?

-Any, kind of, er...

0:42:530:42:55

money that had to get signed off

0:42:550:42:56

over the value of £3 million, I used to have to get it authorised.

0:42:560:42:59

-So you could sign off yourself personally under £3 million.

-Um...

0:42:590:43:02

Up to £1 million myself personally.

0:43:020:43:04

I've had a lot of dealings with that organisation,

0:43:040:43:07

and I find it a big claim, Gary.

0:43:070:43:09

That was... It was absolutely

0:43:090:43:10

one of my greatest achievements in business.

0:43:100:43:12

-Now, your concept is events, right?

-Yes, Lord Sugar.

-OK.

0:43:120:43:18

-That doesn't exist...

-How big can this business get?

-Um...

0:43:180:43:20

I'm looking to be global,

0:43:200:43:21

-I'm looking to be national.

-Global?

-Yeah.

0:43:210:43:23

What is a virtual party? I'm not with you.

0:43:230:43:25

A virtual party is when you can actually beam people in.

0:43:250:43:28

-You have them there...

-Holograms?

0:43:280:43:29

-It's like virtual meetings in the corporate world.

-I've heard of...

0:43:290:43:32

That's Skype, isn't it?

0:43:320:43:33

-Er... It's a bit better than Skype.

-Don't get it. Sorry.

0:43:330:43:36

-It's...

-I don't get it.

0:43:360:43:38

OK, Richard.

0:43:380:43:40

Your plan is focused on base camp strategy sessions

0:43:400:43:44

to remove the cloud from our client's business growth mountain.

0:43:440:43:48

So I'm confused, you're not out there selling crampons,

0:43:480:43:51

for example, are you?

0:43:510:43:53

I'm... I'm so disappointed.

0:43:530:43:54

I've shown my credibility with marketing in this process,

0:43:540:43:57

but I've submitted a completely...

0:43:570:44:00

A piece of gobbledygook.

0:44:000:44:01

Have you removed the clouds around your head at the moment?

0:44:010:44:05

I have, so...

0:44:050:44:06

To put it simply,

0:44:060:44:07

the new business will manage the whole marketing budget

0:44:070:44:10

for a small business,

0:44:100:44:11

and that will generate the sales that it needs to grow.

0:44:110:44:14

OK, I've got it. But let's get down to facts here.

0:44:140:44:18

The current marketing business that you have with your brother

0:44:180:44:21

sounds to me exactly the same as what you're proposing here.

0:44:210:44:26

No, the...

0:44:260:44:27

What we're proposing here

0:44:270:44:29

is to be able to manage complete marketing budgets.

0:44:290:44:31

The company that I currently have is just a website development company.

0:44:310:44:34

Can I just interrupt?

0:44:340:44:36

Frankly, what you put down as the company

0:44:360:44:37

that you've got currently, this YOMP Marketing -

0:44:370:44:40

"It's a full-service digital marketing agency.

0:44:400:44:42

"It builds brands, engages, connects, moves audiences..."

0:44:420:44:45

It's exactly...

0:44:450:44:46

I mean, almost word for word, the same as your business plan.

0:44:460:44:49

I don't see them as being the same businesses. Um... I don't...

0:44:490:44:53

They just happen to be described in the same way?

0:44:530:44:56

I think you're being a bit evasive at the moment, Richard.

0:44:560:44:59

Now, Charleine. Your work ethic is tremendous, we all agree on that.

0:45:000:45:06

-You've got a hairdressing salon.

-Yes, Lord Sugar.

0:45:060:45:08

And you want to have a franchise.

0:45:080:45:11

Yes, to start with,

0:45:110:45:13

I would want to open a training academy with a salon attached to it.

0:45:130:45:17

I say very respectfully

0:45:170:45:20

that in order to start off a franchising chain...

0:45:200:45:23

You've got to be big in a big city.

0:45:230:45:25

-Well, never mind a big city, you've just got to be big, period.

-Yeah.

0:45:250:45:28

And I'm not going to say that tomorrow I'm going to open

0:45:280:45:30

and I'm just going to be this big massive chain, you know,

0:45:300:45:34

it's going to take time.

0:45:340:45:35

So I would move to London.

0:45:350:45:37

They charge phenomenal prices compared to,

0:45:370:45:39

obviously, us down in Plymouth...

0:45:390:45:40

But, Charleine, you can't just bowl up in high street London

0:45:400:45:43

and open up a shop and say, "Hello, Charleine's here,"

0:45:430:45:46

and people are going to come into your salon.

0:45:460:45:49

Charleine, the difficulty that you have is competition.

0:45:490:45:52

-Yes.

-You come to London, and you'll be swallowed up.

0:45:520:45:55

Maybe.

0:45:550:45:56

Yeah, no.

0:45:560:45:58

Why don't you just carry on in Plymouth?

0:45:580:45:59

That seems like a good area.

0:45:590:46:01

You're known there, you develop your business in Plymouth.

0:46:010:46:03

I do understand that, and that's why I would work

0:46:030:46:05

absolutely my socks off to promote myself, to...

0:46:050:46:08

I've got no qualms in the fact that you would work your socks off.

0:46:080:46:11

-When you start...

-That...

0:46:110:46:12

That I have already seen. But, Charleine...

0:46:120:46:15

..I do admire your drive, your...

0:46:170:46:20

inspiration, and your hard work and efforts.

0:46:200:46:24

And it's very hard for me at this stage to,

0:46:240:46:26

kind of suppress that enthusiasm, but...

0:46:260:46:30

I don't believe that I can go into business with you at this time.

0:46:300:46:34

I think you should take advice from Claude

0:46:340:46:37

and pursue those additional branches down there.

0:46:370:46:41

So, it is with regret, Charleine, that...

0:46:410:46:45

you're fired.

0:46:450:46:47

Thank you, Lord Sugar, thank you, Karren, thank you, Claude.

0:46:470:46:49

Good luck to whoever goes through. I wish you all the best. Thank you.

0:46:490:46:54

-Bye.

-Thank you very much, Lord Sugar.

0:46:540:46:56

Joseph, I see you've gone from looking like Boycie,

0:47:080:47:13

a second-hand car dealer, to a rather credible-looking young man.

0:47:130:47:16

Good.

0:47:160:47:17

Now, in order for your company to become a nationwide brand,

0:47:170:47:22

a lot of money and a lot of years would have to be spent to do that.

0:47:220:47:27

So the franchise thing is out of the window.

0:47:270:47:29

I've got a contingency plan,

0:47:290:47:31

and what my idea would be, is to expand it out to the local areas.

0:47:310:47:36

We have some places very close that I can tap into very quickly.

0:47:360:47:39

I have some relations

0:47:390:47:41

with some nationwide property management companies,

0:47:410:47:43

and they're constantly asking me,

0:47:430:47:45

"Joe, can you take Northampton?

0:47:450:47:46

"Joe, can you take the Cambridge area, can you take this?"

0:47:460:47:48

And at the moment I have to say no, cos I can't...

0:47:480:47:50

Why, cos you've only got...?

0:47:500:47:52

Yeah, cos I only have X amount of engineers,

0:47:520:47:54

and I don't have enough money to fund...

0:47:540:47:56

These engineers that you have, how many have you got?

0:47:560:47:58

Um... At the moment we have three.

0:47:580:48:00

You've got to show me a path as to how this can get big.

0:48:000:48:04

So, basically, firstly, I just wouldn't say it's small.

0:48:040:48:06

-In the second year I managed to make £60,000.

-Mm-hmm.

0:48:060:48:09

You know, profit. I think that's good in the second year.

0:48:090:48:11

Obviously it's going to grow massively.

0:48:110:48:13

I made a hell of a lot of mistakes

0:48:130:48:14

and wasted a lot of money on crappy vans...

0:48:140:48:16

So how much money do you think we can make, then?

0:48:160:48:18

Two weeks before I came in,

0:48:180:48:20

I just got a £25,000 contract that will last for two months.

0:48:200:48:22

There's a hell of a lot of money to be made in plumbing.

0:48:220:48:25

-It's a service that's never going to disappear.

-OK, look...

0:48:250:48:28

Joseph...

0:48:310:48:33

You've done some great things, really, at your age.

0:48:330:48:35

It's just that...

0:48:350:48:37

..that it worries me that it is a small-time thing.

0:48:390:48:42

Um... Richard...

0:48:430:48:45

In this process, you were in the winning team eight times.

0:48:460:48:49

As the project manager, you won twice.

0:48:490:48:53

But you've got a business already that I believe is a conflict.

0:48:530:48:59

HE SIGHS

0:49:020:49:03

Gary...

0:49:080:49:10

You take great pride in being a corporate fellow.

0:49:100:49:13

But I think your business plan is flawed.

0:49:130:49:17

I don't understand it at all.

0:49:180:49:20

I can't go into business with you.

0:49:220:49:23

You're fired.

0:49:230:49:24

Thank you, Lord Sugar, for the opportunity,

0:49:240:49:27

and I genuinely wish everyone so well in their future ventures.

0:49:270:49:30

Thanks ever so much. Thank you.

0:49:300:49:31

RICHARD SIGHS

0:49:390:49:41

And so there are three.

0:49:460:49:48

And this is such an important decision for me

0:49:480:49:51

that I think I'm going to take the opportunity

0:49:510:49:55

of consulting with Claude and Karren.

0:49:550:49:58

So step outside, and I'll call you back in shortly.

0:49:580:50:01

Thank you.

0:50:010:50:03

RICHARD SIGHS

0:50:090:50:10

Richard's done very well in the past weeks.

0:50:120:50:15

He's taken control of a lot of the tasks.

0:50:150:50:18

He was project manager officially twice,

0:50:180:50:20

but he was actually orchestrating things from the back.

0:50:200:50:23

The trouble with Richard is, he had a genuine opportunity

0:50:230:50:26

to be straight with you about his business competing or not.

0:50:260:50:29

He somehow fudged it again.

0:50:290:50:31

And then there's Joseph, a young man, a real hard worker.

0:50:310:50:36

He's very straightforward, he talks language that I can understand.

0:50:360:50:40

It's whether he is too young.

0:50:400:50:42

You know, he has still got some naivete about him.

0:50:420:50:45

Vana, highly intelligent.

0:50:460:50:48

But this type of business that she wants to get into is massive,

0:50:480:50:52

it needs massive amounts of money injected into it,

0:50:520:50:55

although she says, "No, we can do it."

0:50:550:50:57

It's a typical huge hockey stick,

0:50:570:50:59

you have to have an act of faith whether you're going to

0:50:590:51:01

go on that journey or whether she's going to burn.

0:51:010:51:04

All right.

0:51:040:51:05

PHONE RINGS

0:51:080:51:10

-Can you send the three of them in, please?

-Yes, Lord Sugar.

0:51:100:51:13

Lord Sugar will see you now.

0:51:130:51:15

Vana, I need convincing from you

0:51:300:51:32

that I'm going to be making some money.

0:51:320:51:34

I understand that it's a risk, but this is a market that's growing.

0:51:340:51:38

25% of marriages in the UK meet online.

0:51:380:51:40

-That is a fact.

-What about divorces, then?

0:51:400:51:43

-SHE LAUGHS

-I'm not sure about the divorce rate, but...

0:51:430:51:45

-Mm.

-I want to ease your qualms a little bit.

0:51:450:51:49

I have experience in this industry.

0:51:490:51:50

I understand how an app is built, I understand how to pitch,

0:51:500:51:54

and I understand how to sell a product, so...

0:51:540:51:57

I have a passion for this, and I can bring this to fruition.

0:51:570:52:02

Mm-hmm.

0:52:020:52:03

-And if it don't work?

-I mean...

0:52:030:52:05

In every business you're investing in, in the plumbing business,

0:52:050:52:08

in the marketing business,

0:52:080:52:09

-in every business, there's a chance that it doesn't work.

-Mm.

0:52:090:52:12

Um... Joseph,

0:52:120:52:14

remember on the property task,

0:52:140:52:16

where you jumped in to become the project manager,

0:52:160:52:19

you was a fish out of water

0:52:190:52:20

in being able to deal with this, kind of, high-level stuff.

0:52:200:52:24

So, I think in my own business, I'm a lot more confident

0:52:240:52:26

to be able to sell it, sell myself, sell what we do.

0:52:260:52:29

When you're growing a business,

0:52:290:52:30

it's really important that you can move in different circles.

0:52:300:52:33

Yeah, and I think I can move in different circles.

0:52:330:52:36

I think that I've took that lesson on board,

0:52:360:52:38

and I can 100% get a large client base.

0:52:380:52:41

I think I've already done that, I've only been going for two years.

0:52:410:52:44

Imagine what I can do in ten years.

0:52:440:52:45

There is a trait that plumbers have

0:52:450:52:48

in that their estimates are too high.

0:52:480:52:50

Are you estimating too highly here to me?

0:52:500:52:54

Not at all.

0:52:540:52:55

If I can make £60,000 in two years with no help at all,

0:52:550:53:00

-learning everything myself...

-Mm-hmm...

0:53:000:53:02

I've learnt the core lessons,

0:53:020:53:03

and now it's just all about moving forward,

0:53:030:53:05

-I've got a great base for us to build on.

-Right.

-There's no doubt...

0:53:050:53:08

Richard, I'm going into business with somebody

0:53:080:53:11

who's going to give 100% to the new business

0:53:110:53:13

that we are going to form, OK?

0:53:130:53:16

And we have explained, your existing business

0:53:160:53:19

and the proposed one is exactly the same.

0:53:190:53:21

I'm not going to business with anybody

0:53:210:53:23

that's got some other deal on the side.

0:53:230:53:25

Now, does the old business amalgamate in, yes or no?

0:53:260:53:30

No, because I can't offer that,

0:53:310:53:34

because my brother's a 50% shareholder in that business.

0:53:340:53:38

Right, OK, so are you going to give your 50% to your brother?

0:53:380:53:41

I am 100% agreed with my brother that my full-time focus

0:53:410:53:44

would be on the new business...

0:53:440:53:45

I just asked you a question, you're not answering it.

0:53:450:53:48

Are you going to give your other 50% to your brother?

0:53:480:53:51

I came into this process saying...

0:53:510:53:55

Um...that I would keep that and be a silent partner,

0:53:550:53:57

cos I set up the business...

0:53:570:53:58

Can I just have a straightforward answer?

0:53:580:54:01

No.

0:54:010:54:03

-No what?

-I wasn't going to hand over those shares.

0:54:030:54:07

Well, that's the first time you've been straight with us here,

0:54:070:54:09

really, so that's an improvement.

0:54:090:54:11

So, conflict of interest between the two businesses, possibly, then.

0:54:110:54:15

Right, well...

0:54:170:54:18

Two of you are going to go through to the final.

0:54:180:54:21

It's very difficult...

0:54:220:54:24

..because we've got three very credible people

0:54:250:54:27

that have battled their way through the process.

0:54:270:54:31

Vana, I worry this £250,000

0:54:350:54:39

is like a spit in the ocean, really, in order for this to be successful.

0:54:390:54:44

Um... Joseph, my concern is whether you are mature enough yet,

0:54:450:54:51

whether you're here too early for me.

0:54:510:54:53

Um...

0:54:540:54:57

But you're a business that I can understand,

0:54:570:55:00

and I also understand that you're very, very determined.

0:55:000:55:04

And so I'm going to tell you right now, Joseph,

0:55:060:55:10

that you...

0:55:100:55:11

are going to be in the final.

0:55:110:55:13

Thank you very much.

0:55:130:55:14

I won't let you down, I'm going to make you a lot of money.

0:55:160:55:18

Well, you've got to win first of all.

0:55:180:55:20

But you're in the final.

0:55:200:55:23

I have got a problem here between two very, very intelligent people.

0:55:230:55:29

Can I alleviate one concern for you, Lord Sugar?

0:55:290:55:32

I want to commit myself 100%.

0:55:320:55:34

I'm willing to give up all shareholdings and just go 100%.

0:55:340:55:37

OK, I mean, that's just one element of it.

0:55:370:55:39

Richard...

0:55:410:55:43

You've done extremely well in the process.

0:55:430:55:46

So you've obviously got something there.

0:55:460:55:48

Vana, in order for your business plan idea to work,

0:55:510:55:56

it has got to be so drop-dead brilliant

0:55:560:55:59

that it's going to capture the imagination of users

0:55:590:56:02

at a very early stage.

0:56:020:56:04

I'm a gambler.

0:56:060:56:07

Richard...

0:56:100:56:11

You've been a very, very good candidate here,

0:56:120:56:15

but I've decided I'm going to take a gamble

0:56:150:56:18

by allowing Vana into the final.

0:56:180:56:20

So Richard,

0:56:200:56:22

you're fired.

0:56:220:56:24

Thank you very much.

0:56:240:56:25

Thank you, Karren, thank you, Claude, thank you, Lord Sugar.

0:56:250:56:28

Good luck, guys.

0:56:280:56:30

Ahem...

0:56:310:56:32

HE SIGHS

0:56:380:56:40

Very well done, the pair of you. You're in the final,

0:56:520:56:54

and I'll be contacting you in a couple of days' time,

0:56:540:56:58

letting you know what it's all about, OK?

0:56:580:57:00

-Off you go, back to the house.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

0:57:000:57:03

Throughout this process I've been the most successful candidate

0:57:180:57:22

in terms of tasks, and I just really want him to see

0:57:220:57:24

that I have a talent for business, and if he invested in me,

0:57:240:57:28

I could have ironed out those problems in the business plan.

0:57:280:57:31

And I'm gutted that I haven't got that opportunity.

0:57:310:57:34

-Yes, this is the greatest day of my life!

-I don't believe it!

0:57:350:57:38

-Well done, Vana.

-Great job!

-So happy!

-I am... I'm shellshocked.

0:57:380:57:40

-Can't believe it! Head-to-head final, me and you.

-Yeah!

0:57:400:57:43

-Fighting it out to the death for the 250 grand.

-VANA LAUGHS

0:57:430:57:46

-Do or die!

-Well, I know it won't be, like, a physical fight,

0:57:460:57:49

but it will be a definite fight.

0:57:490:57:51

Now just two candidates remain.

0:57:510:57:55

Lord Sugar's search for his next business partner is nearly over.

0:57:550:58:01

-Next time...

-For your final task,

0:58:010:58:03

I want you to launch your businesses.

0:58:030:58:05

-# This is the night... #

-..broken hearts...

0:58:050:58:09

You look like a freak.

0:58:090:58:10

..versus broken boilers.

0:58:100:58:12

-The fire's not working!

-STIFFLY:

-Neither is the bath!

0:58:120:58:15

Cut! "Nei-ther is the bath!"

0:58:150:58:18

-Wow!

-It's head-to-head...

0:58:180:58:20

Do yourself proud.

0:58:200:58:21

Gaming and dating.

0:58:210:58:23

..in the battle for Lord Sugar's quarter million pound investment.

0:58:230:58:27

You are going to be my business partner.

0:58:270:58:30

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