17/07/2016 Songs of Praise


17/07/2016

Similar Content

Browse content similar to 17/07/2016. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!

Transcript


LineFromTo

The British people have spoken and the answer is, "We're out."

0:00:020:00:05

Since the results of the EU Referendum,

0:00:050:00:08

the country is facing changes and uncertainty on many fronts.

0:00:080:00:11

The Church is no exception.

0:00:110:00:14

When you have a seismic event, cracks open up,

0:00:140:00:18

and some fairly unpleasant things can come out of those cracks.

0:00:180:00:22

There have been comments on Facebook that people are going round

0:00:220:00:25

to European people's doors saying,

0:00:250:00:27

"Would you like us to help you pack?"

0:00:270:00:29

If you think that all the situation is just smashing you down,

0:00:300:00:35

you always can go to the church and just pray

0:00:350:00:38

or just make your own conversation with God.

0:00:380:00:42

This week on Songs Of Praise,

0:00:420:00:44

we've come to Boston in Lincolnshire,

0:00:440:00:47

the town that recorded the highest proportion

0:00:470:00:50

of Leave votes in the country.

0:00:500:00:52

I'm here to see how the diverse and multinational church communities

0:00:520:00:56

reacted to the reality of life after the Leave vote.

0:00:560:01:00

And a year after her visit to the camp in Calais

0:01:000:01:03

known as the Jungle, Sally has a surprising reunion.

0:01:030:01:06

And of course we'll be bringing you wonderful music from across the UK,

0:01:160:01:20

with out first hymn reminding us

0:01:200:01:22

that whatever might be changing around us,

0:01:220:01:24

nothing changes the love of God.

0:01:240:01:26

Hear the name Boston

0:03:520:03:53

and you're inclined to think of the American city called Boston

0:03:530:03:57

by the 17th century emigrants

0:03:570:03:59

who took the name of their hometown with them

0:03:590:04:01

when they left Lincolnshire in search of a new life.

0:04:010:04:05

In recent years, though,

0:04:050:04:06

the story has been more about people coming IN to Boston.

0:04:060:04:10

According to the 2011 census, the town is home to a higher proportion

0:04:100:04:16

of Eastern European immigrants than anywhere else in England and Wales.

0:04:160:04:21

With many being Catholic,

0:04:210:04:23

this has led to a marked increase in attendance at St Mary's Church,

0:04:230:04:27

but it's not without its problems.

0:04:270:04:29

-Lord, in your mercy...

-ALL:

-Hear our prayer.

0:04:290:04:32

Most churches would welcome a rise in numbers attending.

0:04:330:04:37

Do you?

0:04:370:04:38

Well, of course.

0:04:380:04:40

And I think people generally do, but after all,

0:04:400:04:45

St Mary's is a microcosm of Boston in some ways,

0:04:450:04:50

and I recognise that people have felt bewildered to some extent

0:04:500:04:57

and occasionally overwhelmed by the sheer numbers

0:04:570:05:01

who've come very rapidly into the community.

0:05:010:05:06

Although there hasn't been an increase in reported hate crimes

0:05:060:05:10

in Boston since the referendum,

0:05:100:05:12

across the UK the police have reported a sharp increase

0:05:120:05:16

in the second half of June.

0:05:160:05:18

It's a rise that's drawn a strong response

0:05:180:05:20

from national church leaders.

0:05:200:05:22

The outbursts of the last week, two weeks, may pass,

0:05:220:05:27

but the signal has been set at "danger" for our cohesion,

0:05:270:05:32

and the church must respond with a fresh effort in integration.

0:05:320:05:37

I've been in a few churches in the last week

0:05:400:05:42

and I look round and I think,

0:05:420:05:43

"I wonder how all these people are thinking."

0:05:430:05:45

And a number of parish priests have said to me,

0:05:450:05:48

"Please could you give us something

0:05:480:05:50

"that is of reassurance to our congregations."

0:05:500:05:52

We have to ask ourselves that golden question,

0:05:570:06:00

"Am I treating others as I would like them to treat me?"

0:06:000:06:04

Or, put it this way around, "Would I expect my fellow Britons,

0:06:050:06:10

"who live in European countries,

0:06:100:06:12

"to be treated in the way that some, a few people, in this country

0:06:120:06:17

"are treating European citizens here?"

0:06:170:06:20

Earlier this month, a joint friendship service was held

0:09:100:09:13

by all the churches in the town.

0:09:130:09:15

Neal Mugglestone is the leader

0:09:150:09:17

of the ecumenical group Churches Together.

0:09:170:09:20

He voted Out in the referendum,

0:09:200:09:22

as he believes it will benefit business, but he's also seen

0:09:220:09:26

the effect the Leave result has had on the local community.

0:09:260:09:29

Over the last few years, as the population in Boston has grown,

0:09:290:09:32

with more and more Europeans coming in to find work

0:09:320:09:35

and find better lives here, that in itself has caused tension.

0:09:350:09:40

I think over the last recent weeks,

0:09:400:09:42

since the vote took place, then, yes, there's been...

0:09:420:09:45

That's heightened, if you like.

0:09:450:09:47

It's a shame, and it shouldn't be that way,

0:09:480:09:50

but there have been comments on Facebook

0:09:500:09:53

that people are going round to European people's doors saying,

0:09:530:09:56

"Would you like us to help you pack?"

0:09:560:09:59

Erm... You know, it shouldn't be like that at all.

0:09:590:10:03

Do you think in some ways churches can lead the healing for the town?

0:10:030:10:07

I think we must. Yes, without a doubt.

0:10:070:10:09

As Churches Together in the town,

0:10:090:10:11

we've got a great united feel between us.

0:10:110:10:15

All the churches pull together, we work together,

0:10:150:10:17

we do an awful lot of things in the town,

0:10:170:10:19

and that now needs to spread out more into the European community.

0:10:190:10:22

We just need to find ways to do it.

0:10:220:10:24

Let us pray for all the other countries of the European Union.

0:10:250:10:29

Yvonne Stevens has lived in Boston all her life

0:10:300:10:33

and is a UKIP councillor.

0:10:330:10:36

She's seen first-hand how her town and her church has changed.

0:10:360:10:40

I feel like a foreigner in my own town.

0:10:400:10:42

It feels like, really, if the sunshine was there all the time,

0:10:430:10:46

one would assume one was on holiday.

0:10:460:10:49

Because when you shop on Saturday, the place is full of people

0:10:490:10:55

with a different tongue to mine doing their shopping as well.

0:10:550:10:58

But isn't it true that the immigrants are filling jobs

0:11:000:11:03

that badly need to be done?

0:11:030:11:05

That may be true to a point.

0:11:060:11:09

The amount of immigrants we've got...

0:11:110:11:13

..is excessive.

0:11:140:11:16

I feel that we need to draw a line and say,

0:11:160:11:20

"OK, if you've got the skill that we need, then welcome."

0:11:200:11:25

But we can't, en masse, in my opinion,

0:11:250:11:28

just say, "Carry on coming and swamp us."

0:11:280:11:31

There are now three Polish and two English Masses each weekend

0:11:330:11:37

at St Mary's Catholic Church where Yvonne attends.

0:11:370:11:41

Could you have joint services?

0:11:410:11:42

Would you like to work towards that?

0:11:420:11:44

I would love it.

0:11:440:11:45

These people are coming to an English service

0:11:450:11:50

simply because they're in England.

0:11:500:11:52

And let them learn - but even if there's a social evening

0:11:520:11:57

on at church, they don't come.

0:11:570:11:59

They're welcome,

0:11:590:12:01

but they choose not to.

0:12:010:12:02

Marcin came to Boston from Poland over ten years ago.

0:12:050:12:09

He and his wife have three,

0:12:090:12:11

soon to be four, children who were all born here.

0:12:110:12:14

He runs his own business in the town and often leads worship

0:12:140:12:18

in the Polish services at the church.

0:12:180:12:20

Some people feel that your community is not integrating

0:12:200:12:24

as long as you're having your own separate Mass

0:12:240:12:28

that's actually in Polish.

0:12:280:12:30

Yes, we can speak in English, but we always feel in Polish.

0:12:300:12:34

And, for me...

0:12:340:12:36

I cannot express myself as much in English as in Polish.

0:12:360:12:41

The English Mass is really...

0:12:450:12:47

It's OK, I go to the English Mass sometimes as well,

0:12:470:12:51

but singing Polish songs and praying in Polish,

0:12:510:12:55

that's what was taught by my parents, by my grandmother.

0:12:550:13:00

PRAYER IN POLISH

0:13:000:13:02

It's really important for us to have Catholic Mass

0:13:030:13:06

in Polish language here.

0:13:060:13:08

Christians are taught to love our neighbour

0:13:090:13:12

and to welcome the stranger. Is that happening?

0:13:120:13:15

I know that there are people who maybe they've experienced

0:13:150:13:19

some bad things from immigrants or something,

0:13:190:13:24

maybe that's how it is.

0:13:240:13:26

But one of the most important rules in our faith is forgiveness,

0:13:260:13:31

you know, we should forgive our neighbours

0:13:310:13:34

and our neighbours should forgive us.

0:13:340:13:37

I know sometimes it's hard, but this is where the process begins,

0:13:370:13:42

from the forgiveness.

0:13:420:13:44

Well, from a hymn with words that date back to the 14th century,

0:16:280:16:32

to a modern song that has been proving very popular with churches

0:16:320:16:35

all around the world in the last couple of years,

0:16:350:16:38

and shares the same sentiments of reassurance in turbulent times.

0:16:380:16:43

Here's Jess Clemmons with Oceans.

0:16:430:16:46

# You call me out upon the waters

0:16:480:16:53

# The great unknown where feet may fail

0:16:540:17:00

# And there I find You in the mystery

0:17:030:17:09

# In oceans deep my faith will stand

0:17:090:17:15

# And I will call upon Your name

0:17:180:17:24

# And keep my eyes above the waves

0:17:250:17:29

# When oceans rise my soul will rest in Your embrace

0:17:310:17:38

# For I am Yours and You are mine

0:17:380:17:45

# Spirit lead me where my trust is without borders

0:17:450:17:51

# Let me walk upon the waters wherever You would call me

0:17:510:18:00

# Take me deeper than my feet could ever wander

0:18:000:18:06

# And my faith would be made stronger

0:18:060:18:11

# In the presence of my saviour

0:18:110:18:16

# Spirit lead me where my trust is without borders

0:18:160:18:21

# Let me walk upon the waters

0:18:210:18:25

# Wherever You would call me

0:18:250:18:30

# Take me deeper than my feet could ever wander

0:18:300:18:37

# And my faith would be made stronger

0:18:370:18:41

# In the presence of my Saviour

0:18:410:18:47

# And I will call upon Your name

0:18:500:18:55

# And keep my eyes above the waves

0:18:580:19:04

# When oceans rise

0:19:040:19:05

# My soul will rest in Your embrace

0:19:050:19:11

# For I am Yours and You are mine

0:19:110:19:18

# Oh-oh. #

0:19:200:19:23

Last August, Songs Of Praise hit the headlines

0:19:320:19:35

when Sally visited the Calais camp known as the Jungle.

0:19:350:19:39

There she saw the makeshift church built by Christians in the camp

0:19:410:19:45

and met Biniyam, a young Ethiopian

0:19:450:19:47

determined to worship in the most challenging of circumstances,

0:19:470:19:52

and equally determined to get to Britain.

0:19:520:19:54

When I talked to Biniyam in that simple church in Calais,

0:19:560:19:59

it was hard to imagine what the future might hold for him.

0:19:590:20:03

I certainly didn't think I'd be finding him

0:20:030:20:05

in the heart of the Welsh community in Newport.

0:20:050:20:08

The Bethel Church here runs a project called the Sanctuary.

0:20:090:20:13

Many asylum seekers and refugees are sent to the area by the Home Office,

0:20:130:20:17

and the church is helping them adapt to their new life.

0:20:170:20:20

Can we ask him another question?

0:20:200:20:22

Why do you want to play football?

0:20:220:20:24

Biniyam's learning English with some of his...

0:20:240:20:27

Is this the English class?

0:20:270:20:29

..fellow English learners today, and here he is.

0:20:290:20:31

Biniyam.

0:20:310:20:33

Hello, fancy meeting you here.

0:20:330:20:35

How are you doing?

0:20:350:20:37

I'm fine.

0:20:370:20:38

-You've got official leave to remain now.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:20:380:20:40

Yeah, finally, thanks to God.

0:20:400:20:43

Remind me why you had to leave Ethiopia.

0:20:450:20:47

-They tried to kill you?

-Yeah.

0:21:020:21:04

He fled Ethiopia and travelled across the Sahara desert,

0:21:040:21:08

eventually reaching the coast.

0:21:080:21:10

There he joined 200 others as they tried to cross the Mediterranean.

0:21:100:21:14

So everybody in the boat went in the water?

0:21:250:21:27

After a perilous journey at sea,

0:22:090:22:11

Biniyam risked his life again to come here illegally,

0:22:110:22:15

holding on to a lorry as it travelled through

0:22:150:22:17

the Channel Tunnel.

0:22:170:22:19

Why didn't you stay in France?

0:22:190:22:21

Biniyam was able to prove his claim for political asylum.

0:22:410:22:44

The Home Office accepted his life was in danger

0:22:440:22:47

and have granted him the legal right to remain in the UK.

0:22:470:22:50

Here at the Sanctuary, he's found a sense of community and friendship.

0:22:510:22:56

Sarah Croft runs the project,

0:22:560:22:58

and works with the many refugee and asylum seekers,

0:22:580:23:01

offering practical and emotional support.

0:23:010:23:04

For me, it's a demonstration of my faith.

0:23:040:23:06

I don't want to just be a Christian that comes to church on a Sunday,

0:23:060:23:10

reads my Bible and it's about me and mine.

0:23:100:23:13

I think we need to be hands and feet

0:23:130:23:15

and do things to demonstrate our love for people.

0:23:150:23:20

What would you say to people

0:23:200:23:21

who think that actually refugees just shouldn't be here,

0:23:210:23:24

they should be somewhere else?

0:23:240:23:26

I would say, "Put yourself in their shoes."

0:23:260:23:28

I would say, "If that was you and your family needing to flee

0:23:280:23:32

"a very dangerous situation, would you stay where you were

0:23:320:23:35

"and perhaps put your family in danger,

0:23:350:23:38

"or would you try and get out

0:23:380:23:39

"and come somewhere where your family can be safe?"

0:23:390:23:42

What are your plans now, now that you are legally here in Britain?

0:23:450:23:50

You want to be a nurse?

0:23:550:23:56

How has the sanctuary here helped you?

0:24:000:24:02

Back in Boston, whatever the issues the Leave vote has caused,

0:26:340:26:39

everyone believes that things will get better -

0:26:390:26:42

but it may take many years.

0:26:420:26:44

We go to the church as often as we can,

0:26:450:26:49

and if you think that all the situation is just smashing you down,

0:26:490:26:56

you always can go to the church

0:26:560:26:58

and just pray or just make your own conversation with God.

0:26:580:27:02

He's always that light somewhere, you just follow it

0:27:020:27:05

and you will find the answers for all your questions,

0:27:050:27:08

for all the troubles you've got.

0:27:080:27:10

Just over three quarters of the reception class

0:27:120:27:16

next...in the autumn, will be English as an alternative language.

0:27:160:27:22

Now, those are the people who will naturally integrate here,

0:27:230:27:31

and what we need to do here is see how we can lay

0:27:310:27:37

sound foundations on which that integration can be built.

0:27:370:27:44

We're looking at two decades, not two years.

0:27:440:27:49

PRAYER IN POLISH

0:27:490:27:50

People can learn a new language with which to bring up a family.

0:27:530:27:58

But the last language that changes deep inside a person

0:27:580:28:02

is the language in which they pray.

0:28:020:28:04

Because you pray in your mother tongue,

0:28:040:28:07

and we have to find a balance of enabling people who arrive here

0:28:070:28:12

to have some ministry in that mother tongue,

0:28:120:28:15

in the culture in which their faith is nurtured,

0:28:150:28:19

as well as inviting them to make their contributions

0:28:190:28:23

and be part of the Catholic life wherever it is they might lead.

0:28:230:28:27

That's just about it from Boston,

0:30:540:30:56

but at this time of great change for our nation,

0:30:560:31:00

our last hymn is a prayer that love, respect and tolerance

0:31:000:31:04

might bring healing to all people wherever and whoever they are.

0:31:040:31:09

Download Subtitles

SRT

ASS