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If I told you this week the Antiques Roadshow is coming to one of the finest Tudor houses in the land, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
you'd probably think of Hampton Court. The chances are the words Layer Marney Tower | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
won't be on the tip of your tongue. But just look at it! It's one of Britain's best kept secrets. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:16 | |
Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow from Essex. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
One of the great things about working on the Antiques Roadshow | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
is I get to see some of Britain's finest buildings. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
And this week I've been brought to the tallest Tudor gatehouse in the land. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
Rising from the Essex landscape, it's a pretty impressive sight. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
But who on earth would build it? | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
Step forward, Sir Henry Marney. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
He's not a household name, but he was, in fact, Henry VIII's first and most trusted advisor. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:32 | |
From the start of his reign in 1509, Henry VIII showered Marney | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
with honours, giving him the most important jobs in the land. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
And Marney was wise, grave, quiet, totally loyal. The perfect courtier. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:47 | |
No scandal, which might be why you haven't heard of him. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
Of course, Henry Marney wasn't the only advisor to the king. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
Some are rather better known, like Cardinal Wolsey, who built the famous Hampton Court. | 0:01:55 | 0:02:00 | |
Wolsey and Marney were bitter rivals, both vying for the king's favour. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:06 | |
Sir Henry Marney might have been a modest man, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
but when it came to building this place, he couldn't resist | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
a bit of one-upmanship, because his gatehouse is taller | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
than the one at Hampton Court. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:17 | |
In fact, it's even slightly higher than the tower of the church next door, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
making Henry just that little bit closer to God than local worshippers. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
Sadly, Henry Marney didn't see his vision completed. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
He died in 1523 and the house was never finished. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
Still, you can tell this was a man who wanted to be remembered, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
so I'm sure he'd be thrilled to see the turnout here at Layer Marney | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
for the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
With this magnificent building behind us, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
we come down to something which is slightly less magnificent | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
from the outside. It's a handmade dolls' house | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
which has been rather sadly covered with gloss paint. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
But unlike, I think, a lot of dolls' houses, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
the interesting bit is not on the outside, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
but on the inside, because what it lacks in decor | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
and originality on the facade, it makes up in spades in the inside. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:22 | |
It's a wonderful thing. A family dolls' house? | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
It's been in our family ever since it was made in the early 19th century. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:30 | |
Fantastic. And looking at it, you can see, in fact, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:35 | |
that it has been added to over the years. Yes, a lot of what we're looking at | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
is early-mid-19th century, then there are some later bits, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
but it ends up with a lovely little Christmas stocking | 0:03:44 | 0:03:49 | |
which has been coloured in by hand. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:50 | |
Was that from your childhood, or somebody else's? | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
No, it's not, it's my daughter | 0:03:53 | 0:03:54 | |
-and she used to hang up stockings for the dolls every Christmas. -Fantastic! | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
There are a couple of pieces of furniture | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
made by two companies - Schnegel and Kestner | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
and they were quite expensive at the time, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
having been handmade and then imported. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
So the interior was something that money was spent on. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
So you've got a group of objects here that have | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
been put together by somebody who wasn't constrained by money, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
because these things were expensive, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
but also wanted to make something very personal for the family. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
What other personal things do you think are in here | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
that particularly excite you? | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
Well, the grandfather of the twin girls who first had the dolls' house | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
was an artist called James Gibbs who I don't know much about. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
I think he was quite prolific with watercolours | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
and with drawings as well, and for his granddaughters | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
he's done two small drawings especially for this dolls' house, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
-and then there are four lovely watercolours that he's done as well. -May I take one out? -Of course. | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
Oh, that's absolutely fabulous! | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Well, it's a sort of lakeland scene, presumably in the Alps. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
Yes. Possibly, or Lake District, I don't know. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
-It could be Lake District. I'm not good enough on my lakes to be able to identify it. -No. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
Ah, well that's very nice. On the back it says, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
"Painted by James Gibbs in 1835, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
"Ann's great-great-grandfather." | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
There is a James Gibbs | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
listed as being an artist working in that period. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
He certainly exhibited in the Royal Academy at about that time. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
-He does not appear to have been widely exhibited other than that. -OK. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
-But there's no question that the work itself is absolutely exquisite. -They're very sweet, aren't they? | 0:05:43 | 0:05:49 | |
So we have a lovely dolls' house | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
with family connections which have been added to over the years, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
and as a result, I would say that the house and the contents together, | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
-I would put at between £2,500 and £3,000. -Oh, right. OK. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:06 | |
But what I would encourage the next generation to do, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
as your daughter did, with the little addition of the Christmas stocking, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
-is just put perhaps one thing from the 21st century in there. -Right. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:19 | |
-Just to surprise the next generation. -Very good, thank you very much. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
That's great, thank you. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
-Isn't it fascinating how you've got the shell as a detail at the top of the building? -Yes. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
And shells were just so popular in decoration. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
Where have you brought this from? | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
We've brought it from Australia, Ian. We were coming to the UK | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
and one of the reasons was to bring this tray to the Antiques Roadshow | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
which we watch regularly at home. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
Because we don't know anything about its history. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
We know which family it came from, but we don't know anything else, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
except the date, which we had identified earlier. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
-OK, so the date you've identified as... -1773. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
That is the date letter for 1773. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
-Right, and we think it was made by Philip Norman. -Absolutely spot-on. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
That's all we know. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:08 | |
The only problem now is that, unfortunately, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
Philip Norman would not recognise this. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
Really? | 0:07:14 | 0:07:15 | |
It's a naughty piece of silver! | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
Ooh, should we be showing it on TV? | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
Well, the object has actually been made | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
-out of a 1773 piece of silver. -Right. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
They've done a beautiful job on it, but Philip Norman probably made | 0:07:29 | 0:07:35 | |
a salver or something like that, and it's one of those interesting things. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:41 | |
Always when you look at a piece of silver, you should date it | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
-in your mind's eye first, and THEN look at the hallmarks. -Right. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:50 | |
Now, to me, when I looked at this, to me, 1900. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
Now you're saying you know the family from which it came. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
-Yes, yes. -What's the story there? | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
The story there is that our son, who owns it, is adopted, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
and his paternal grandparents passed it to him, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
and their forebears go back to Lord Shaftesbury | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
and to King Edward Ironsides and to Charlemagne. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:13 | |
-Wow. -So they do go back a long way, so we just wanted to find out | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
something about the tray. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
Certainly, whoever has made it in its present form | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
has done a wonderful job. This is the most beautiful chasing, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
and all the insects appearing in it, the bee over there, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
butterflies, the plants. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
Very high standard of workmanship. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
-Right. -So it's somebody good that's done it, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
-but also somebody naughty who's done it. -Right, right. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
-Because technically, it should go to the assay office. -Right. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
-And be brought within the law. -So we should scarper, should we? | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
Well, when's your return flight? | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
We could go tomorrow. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
I don't think you need to be quite that quick. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
But bring it within the law | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
and then it's going to actually have a commercial value. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
-Right. -Which, with the quality of this, I would have thought | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
we'd be looking easily £600, £700, £800. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
Right, that's interesting, very interesting. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
As it is, it would be a criminal offence in England to sell it. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:23 | |
We don't intend to sell it. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:24 | |
Well, I persuaded my mother to buy it from a church jumble sale | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
when I was about six, and it was just black. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
The lady on the stall said it was a Chinese whistle. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
A Chinese whistle?! | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
Yeah, and she said a part had broken off the back, so... | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
-Oh, I see, this hole here. -That part, yeah. -OK. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
I've been trying to play it for years, but I can't get | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
-a sound out of it. Other than that, I haven't got a clue what it is. -Where do you blow it? | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
Where do you think it was made? | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
I presume China or Japan, there's writing on the back. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
Yeah, we've got some writing here. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:00 | |
There we are, that is actually a signature. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
I'll put you out of your misery. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
That is actually a Japanese signature and, in fact, the whole decoration | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
of this piece is typical Japanese metalwork of the late 19th century. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
You've got a lovely praying mantis in there. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
Look at him with his beady eyes. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
He's ready to pounce on something. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
I mean, this is exquisite metalwork, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
but the fact is, it's not a club, it's not a whistle. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:28 | |
I'm not going to be a musician, then, after all these years? | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
But what you could be is a flower arranger. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
This is a vase for hanging on the wall... | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
Ah! | 0:10:43 | 0:10:44 | |
..into which you put a lovely flower. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
It's very rare. I've never seen one in metal before like this. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:56 | |
Beautiful thing. But polished, I'm afraid, rather over-vigorously. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
Well, when I got it, it was completely black | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
and I was six or seven, so I... | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
That's what it should have stayed. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
If it had stayed black, I would have given you some good news, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
but I'm going to have to disappoint you on the valuation front, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
because this late 19th-century little hanging flower vase | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
is probably worth £300 to £500. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
-Really? -Yeah, but I suggest, rather than making war, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:27 | |
we make peace and I offer you my little rose. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:32 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
Well, I never had a clue. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
So you've brought me a rather battered cookery book. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
-Here we are, "Cookery." -That's all it says. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
And it looks as though the upper and lower cover are pretty well off, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
-like all the best cookery books. -It's been well used, I think. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
It's an 18th-century cookery book. It's quite old. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
-So I gather from inside. -So how did this come to you, then? | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
-It descended to me through the family. -An unbroken family line. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
Oh, yes. Yes. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
Quite simply, it's called The Art of Cookery, Made Plain and Easy. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
And I like the subtitle, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:10 | |
"Which far exceeds anything of the kind ever yet published." | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
-Optimistic. -Now, there's no author's name on it. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
The title page simply says, "By a Lady." | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
A lady! That's all it says. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
-That's all I know. -Yes, she really doesn't give very many clues. -No. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
Well, I should tell you | 0:12:25 | 0:12:26 | |
it's actually a very interesting and very important cookery book. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
-Is it? -It's not just important. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
I think you could actually say it's a revolutionary cookery book. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
It's written by a lady by the name of Hannah Glasse. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
-I don't know if that rings any bells. -None at all. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
She lived in the 18th century. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:43 | |
Wasn't terribly rich, she wasn't terribly poor, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
but she was terribly important in retrospect, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
because she changed the way we cook, the way we think about food. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Up until Hannah Glasse, I think we always deferred to the French. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
We assumed that the French were the people who could cook, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
and I think we still do, to some degree. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
But Hannah said, "No, this is absolutely wrong. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
"English cookery can be just as good and I'm going to show you how it's done." | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
Just look at the title here. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
You get a sense of her character from the title page. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
Chapter III. "Read this chapter and you will know how expensive a French cook's sauce is." | 0:13:12 | 0:13:18 | |
Already in Chapter III she's having a go at the French | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
and saying, you know, all very well, but it's expensive. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
This is kind of thrifty English cookery. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
She says, "Take your hare when it's cased and make a pudding. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
"Take a quarter pound of suet and as much crumbs of bread, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
"a little parsley shred fine and about as much thyme | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
-"as will lie on a sixpence when shred," and so on. -Lovely. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
So these are quite simple ingredients for good wholesome cookery | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
and that's why she's so important. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
Very rarely do we see a book | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
which has really changed the course of a kind of history, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
and Hannah Glasse's book is certainly one of those, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
so it has got a commercial value. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
A copy of this would sell quite happily at auction | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
for £8,000, £9,000. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
-GASPING -I've got to carry that home. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
Yes. What a responsibility! | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
Every week, our specialists are setting us a challenge. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
They're bringing along three antiques which, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
to my eyes, all look incredibly similar. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
But one is a basic model, one is rather better | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
and one is a wonderful example of its type, the best. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
This week it's Will Farmer's turn, our ceramics specialist, of course, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
with these Art Deco figures. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
Now, one of them, the basic one, is worth about £200, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
the better one, up to £2,000, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
and the best one up to £8,000. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
I'm going to try and work it out later, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:53 | |
but to begin with, I'm going to ask our visitors, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
and then Will will put us out of our misery and tell us all. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
When we come to the Roadshow, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:05 | |
most of us expect to see rather good furniture. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
-I'm looking here at a frankly pretty basic table. -Yes. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
It was my mother's campaign table. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
-Hang on. Your mother's. Let's say, who was your mother? -Mary Whitehouse. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
-OK, so you are Mary Whitehouse's son. -Richard, the middle one of three. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
-Right. So this is the table upon which she prepared her campaign. -Yes. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
The table would be covered in papers. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
I didn't understand what any of them were. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
They were strewn all over the table, she'd always be on the telephone, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
and she was brilliant at manipulating the press | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
and getting stuff into the press that she wanted to talk about. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
-She was great at her own PR, wasn't she? -Yes, absolutely. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
So she fought very hard to achieve | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
standards of decency in broadcasting, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
-very simply, and in publishing. -Yes, yes. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
She was offended by the open sexuality of the 1960s | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
and she launched this campaign, Clean Up TV Campaign, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
-in 1964 in Birmingham. -Yes. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
-The response was huge and it built and built from there. -Yes. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
And that led into the National Viewers' and Listeners' Association, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
-which had something like 150,000 members. -Something like that, yes. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
-I just want to read her manifesto, which I think sets her in her context. -Yes. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
"We men and women of Britain believe in a Christian way of life. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
"We want it for our children and our country. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
"We deplore present-day attempts to belittle or destroy it | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
"and particularly we object to the propaganda of disbelief, doubt and dirt | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
"that the BBC pours into millions of homes through the television screens." | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
So the BBC was her target. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
-Her enemy. -Her enemy, and I think she particularly attacked | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
the Director General at the time, Sir Hugh Carleton Greene. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
He didn't like her. Actually, she wasn't to be mentioned | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
by any member of the BBC staff under any circumstance, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
and he had a painting in his office, | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
a large multi-breasted portrait of my mother | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
which he used to use for dart practice. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
-Where is that painting now? -I've no idea. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
-Now, you're the next generation. -I am. -What do you think about her? | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
I don't particularly believe in what she stood for. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
I don't really agree with the campaign, particularly. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
I just think she's a remarkable woman because she stood up for | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
what she believed in, really, which is quite amazing. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
What was she like as a mother? What was she like to live with? | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
-We certainly felt sidelined and secondary to the campaign. -Yes. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
It was rather unfortunate that she started the campaign when we were young teens. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
-It was a crucial time for you. -Yes, no sex and violence | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
when that's the only thing we were interested in. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
-Yeah, you wanted to go and see The Clockwork Orange. -Right, yes. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
And she actually watched a lot of porn and violence. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
-Really? -And I began to wonder. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
This painting interests me, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
because this is clearly a John Bratby of her. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
I would have thought he was the last painter | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
-she would ever have chosen. -I know, I know. I think it's brilliant. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
It encapsulates her as a person perfectly. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
-Yes, so you're happy with that? -Oh, yes. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
-I think it's a really striking image. -It is, yes. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
You know, those burning eyes, that passion, is all there, isn't it? | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
Yes. This was a dress that she used to use for speaking. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
I remember that. Yeah, I can remember the film of her speaking. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
I'm very glad you've brought it in, because you, the family, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
have the responsibility to keep that memory going. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
Maybe this has to go to a public collection. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
The values are very difficult. A Bratby painting is straightforward. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
It's £2,000 to £5,000, depending on the subject. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
She'd probably be more because she's quite an important subject. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
What's an old kitchen table worth? | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
Ten quid? You know. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:40 | |
What's all the paperwork worth? | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
Nothing until you see the story, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
and then it becomes a very important social archive. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
-Enjoy the painting in her memory. -We usually keep her behind the door. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
Behind! No, no, bring her out. She deserves to be seen. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
It's such a great image. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
Do you mind if I say that this a very grown-up-looking lady indeed | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
in this photograph? | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
She was. She was my grandmother | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
and she was a very grown-up-looking lady. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
And she's dressed really very formally indeed, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
with jewellery that I can only describe as utterly stupendous. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
Did she wear it with a certain kind of...? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
Because she looks quite relaxed. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
She wore it with great style, and in fact, as a child, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
my very favourite dressing-up dress was that dress, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
-once she'd finished with it, yes. -What, 1950s? '52, '53, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
-that sort of period? -Shh! Yes, that sort of thing. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
Well, when you were very young indeed, of course. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
-She's wearing a wonderful tiara. -Yes. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
A diamond necklace there with stones the size of marbles, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
a pair of diamond drop earrings there, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
which are almost beyond belief | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
and then she's wearing, here, a bracelet. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
Do you want the good news or the bad news? | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
Whatever you should wish to give me. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
Well, the tiara was one of seven owned by her mother. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
-Seven? -Seven, one for every day of the week, as you do. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
The necklace, apparently, was Marie Antoinette's | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
and went to an aunt of mine. The earrings I've never seen. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
But the bracelet is here. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
A wonderful Deco diamond plaque bracelet. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
-So this is the piece that has filtered down to you? -It's all that's left. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
It's set with plaques, very Deco with those geometric plaques, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:37 | |
mounted up in, I would assume, probably platinum. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
And the central core is a line of large diamonds | 0:20:41 | 0:20:47 | |
in three-by-three formation. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
So each of these plaques, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
which might be called a cartouche-shaped plaque, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
has got a central large diamond and two smaller diamonds. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
The total weight of diamonds is probably in the region of 20 carats. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
-Wow! -So it is, really, a stupendous bracelet. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
As far as the value is concerned, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
the value of it is largely driven by the quality of the diamonds | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
and actually, when you look at the stones through a lens, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
you find they're slightly mixed in quality. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
They're not all absolutely perfect well-matched stones. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
The impact it makes is extraordinary, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
but as always, you know, the jewellers who look at these things | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
look at it in a rather cold, dispassionate light, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
where they get their lenses and they examine each stone, stone by stone. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
Now, having said that, on the basis that we've got something | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
in the region of around about 20 carats, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
such a large piece... What shall we say? | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
Something around about £15,000. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
She was a good shopper! Wow! | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
-Do you know anything about Art Deco? -No, I like it, but I don't know anything about it. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
-Perhaps the basic. -We've got three Art Deco figures here. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
Basic, better, best. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
One is worth up to £200, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
one up to £2,000, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
and one is a beautiful example worth up to £8,000. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
I've probably got it totally wrong! | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
It looks very, very aged, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
and you couldn't reproduce something to make it look that aged. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
-You sound like a man who knows what he's talking about. -A bit. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
I could be wrong, though. You're going to prove me wrong now. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
I just wonder if she's the best one, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
and she, although gorgeous, is the better one. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
Best, better, basic. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
We'll find out. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
I couldn't believe it when I first saw this. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
It takes me back to evenings in the summer, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
when I was sort of sent to bed rather earlier than I wanted to. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
And I'd bring out my Orlando books. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
And this is the maquette, the sort of study with the original sketches, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:25 | |
by the authoress and illustrator Kathleen Hale, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
for Orlando Buys A Farm, a book I remember well. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
One of a series done between, late '30s right through, I think, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
until about 1970 she was producing these books. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
But this is amongst the earliest of them and I would say this looks to me like sort of '40s | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
and I feel I've got a real artefact, certainly a real artefact of my childhood. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
And how did you come by it? | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
My husband bought it, because he was the same, he'd been brought up on Orlando... | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
Saw that it was for sale when Kathleen Hale went into a home | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
and they needed to sell her things so that...to keep her in this home. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
How long ago was that? | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
I should think about 15 years. I can't really remember, but over 15 years ago. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
Because I believe she died relatively recently, yes. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
-Yes, I mean she straddled the century, didn't she? -Yes, yes. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
But I love the idea of anything that shows the creative process, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
and you can feel the author sort of bearing down upon the publishers saying, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
"This is my idea for the top right-hand corner, this is for the left-hand corner", | 0:24:33 | 0:24:38 | |
and I love the views, you know, we're looking at these cows from above. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
I mean, what a hilarious look at a cow, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
but also what a rather sort of captivating way of looking at a cow as well. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
-Yes, yes. -And the pigs as well. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
Pigs, which are lovely. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
I mean, they don't need any explanation, do they, really? | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
This is a sort of, you know, lyrical poetry in a drawing, isn't it? | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
Oh, gosh, it's just, it's just really wonderful. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
But it's not exactly the same as the first book, because quite a lot has been left out. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:12 | |
-That just makes it all the more exciting, doesn't it? -Yes. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
-You get closer to the soul of the author. -Yes. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
If this were to come up for sale, I can easily see it making £10,000 to £15,000. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:26 | |
Oh, that's rather nice, it's gone up, then. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
We've had a heck of a turnout here at Layer Marney. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
As you can see, people are queuing there, and there was at one stage a three-mile tailback of cars, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
and then just look up here, because people are all the way up to the gatehouse, as you can see. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:46 | |
Now, what we like to do at the Roadshow is we've got a little clicker, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
and here's our clicker lady. Hello. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
We work out how many people have come in and so we can tell how big the crowds are. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
-So how many have we got? -We've got 2,458. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
Gosh, that's a lot and we're only just halfway through the day. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
-What?! -Gird your loins - there's a lot more to come. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:09 | |
Well, for all intents and purposes it just looks like a fairly ordinary skeleton timepiece, doesn't it? | 0:26:09 | 0:26:16 | |
-I would think so. -Do you find it attractive? -I love it. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
I inherited it when I was about 14 from an old aunt, who was probably at that time | 0:26:20 | 0:26:26 | |
probably about 75, 80, and nobody in the family seems to know anything about it. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:32 | |
OK. Obviously the first thing to talk about is the maker, Charles Frodsham, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:38 | |
Strand, but the interesting thing is | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
-straightaway, we've got two seconds dials. -Yes. That's... | 0:26:40 | 0:26:47 | |
-And then it's got two pendulum suspensions on the back. -Yes. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:53 | |
Why on earth would you want to do that? | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
I don't know. Somebody once said it was going to be a demonstration clock, but I don't know. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
They're absolutely right and looking at the number, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
883, we can date this pretty much to 1850-1851. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:12 | |
-Goodness, yes. -So I think there's a very, very good chance it was made | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
-as a demonstration piece for the Great Exhibition in London of 1851. -Oh! Oh, goodness. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
Let's just start the pendulum off, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
which is currently working on the... | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
side with the recoil, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
the anchor escapement and you can see that working there | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
on that little seconds. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
-Yes. -And then just stopping briefly - | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
you probably have never noticed this, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
but there's a knob here, which, by pushing in this knob here, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
we are disconnecting the drive to the anchor escapement | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
and transferring it to the other escapement here. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:58 | |
Oh, I see, yes, yes. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
And it is purely to demonstrate the different escapements. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
The hands are absolutely superb, have you noticed these lovely... cut-out spade hands. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
-Yes, they're beautiful. -It's the finest quality, the whole thing is magnificent. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
-It's got maintaining power, it's got four levelling screws here. -Yes. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
With the spirit level in the middle. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
-This is an exceptionally rare thing. I believe it to be unique. -What, this clock? -Yeah. -Really? | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
-So made for the Great Exhibition of 1851. -Amazing. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:34 | |
I'm quite confident to say that anybody, of which there are many skeleton clock enthusiasts, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:42 | |
would pay a minimum of £15,000 and I think it would probably go for | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
actually at least £20,000 and maybe a little bit more. It is a unique item. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:54 | |
Most clock people would kill to own it. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
There's always a tale behind autograph books. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
So what's the tale behind this one? | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
Well, I used to go to Charlton, when I was a youngster, with my parents. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
I went from the age of eight, and get the autographs of the players as they came in, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:17 | |
including the Manchester United players - before Munich, this was, in 1955. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:23 | |
You used to go up and say, "Autograph, please," | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
when you recognised them, you did, in those days. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
A few years later, disaster strikes and we had the terrible, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
terrible Munich air disaster where the majority of the team is killed. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:39 | |
-Players you'd met... -Oh, terrible, it was a Thursday, I can remember. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
And when I was coming home from school and my mother's waiting at the door | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
to tell me about it. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:48 | |
Oh, yes, I can remember it as if it was yesterday. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
Oh, yes, there's Duncan Edwards, who was in the air crash, David Pegg, Roger Byrne, Berry, | 0:29:53 | 0:30:01 | |
he was in the air crash as well, and it was very dramatic, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
that match, the first match afterwards. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
They played Sheffield Wednesday in the FA Cup and they didn't know who the team was going to be, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:14 | |
and they had to sign players from here, there, and everywhere they could. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
And they won 3-0 and by a wave of emotion, they got through to the cup final that year. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:23 | |
It was obviously a very, very poignant time for you because you, you kept the newspaper reports. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:30 | |
Oh, yes, because it's a memory from that time. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
Well, it's also, interestingly, a reasonably valuable memory | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
because it's an autograph book that's stuffed with all sorts of signatures, there are footballers and cricketers. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:45 | |
-Cricketers. -So I think in terms of value, around about £600. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
No! 600! Just being a youngster and getting autographs. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:56 | |
Will, you set us a challenge earlier on, to work out which of these three | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
figures is the basic model worth about - was it £200? | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
£200-£300. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
The better one, up to 2,000. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
-Yeah. -And the best one up to 8,000. -Yes. -I've put them in the order I think. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
I reckon this is the basic one because it looks the most basically painted. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
It was a toss-up between these two, I've got to be honest. In the end, I thought | 0:31:21 | 0:31:27 | |
this was such an unusual shape - I've never seen anything like this before - | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
she could either be the best or the worst and I plumped for the best. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
I have no idea, is the truth of the matter. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
So come on, tell us about them and how we would be able to tell the difference. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
Well, I mean, these figures are all about the period. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
We are Art Deco 1925-1935, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:46 | |
which really, as we know, it comes out of Paris and the 1925 exhibition. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:53 | |
It's all about exoticism, it's all about Josephine Baker, the rise of Hollywood, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
and everything gets about fashion and these gorgeous girls. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
And also beautiful bodies. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
Oh, fabulous, I mean these girls were sexy, they were sassy, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
they were about clothing and dancing, and everybody was having fun. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:11 | |
This is a brilliant era, and of all the factories, and there were many that made figures, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
really the best ones are coming out of Europe. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
They're coming out of Germany, Austria and Italy. And we start this end | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
with this figure, which is actually made by the firm of Katzhutte or Hertwig, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
the Hertwig Company, and if you look underneath, it's actually | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
very clearly marked with a little cat inside a house. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:33 | |
And Katzhutte means cat house, so if you've got that mark, you know you've got a Katzhutte. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:39 | |
Now they were, you know, they were | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
a firm of note, they were a fairly heavy going firm, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
they produced lots and lots of figures, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
but they were looking over the fence at their rivals and thinking, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
"We can do that, we can do it cheaper, quicker, and get it out." | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
That's what all of this is about, the amount of man-hours that have gone into making them. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:59 | |
So she's nice, she's stylish, she's got a good pose. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:04 | |
But when you move to the middle here, we're going into Austria now, to the Goldscheider firm. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
19th century in their origins and massive manufactures of figurines. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:13 | |
And by the 1920s and '30s they were employing some of the leading artists of the day, and it's starting to get | 0:33:13 | 0:33:19 | |
a little bit more unusual, a bit more quirky. I mean, here she is in her tulip dress. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:24 | |
And also, looking at the paint work, there's just so much | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
-more care and effort gone into her face particularly. -Exactly. This has been air brushed in, and painted on. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:33 | |
She is beautiful, I think. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
She's gorgeous. I've known this girl a long, long time. LAUGHTER | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
I think we should hear more. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
Absolutely. When you get to the end, she's Italian, and the Italians know their fashion. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:47 | |
-Bit of va-va-voom about it. -Bit of va-va-voom. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
I mean, all of these girls are "a la mode", but she is on the button. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
She's designed by a lady called Helen Konig Scavini, who actually formed the firm Lenci. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
And the thing about Scavini as a senior designer was, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
she just had it. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:04 | |
This has got humour, it's called Colpo di Vento, which basically means "in the wind" | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
and she is literally holding her skirt down, and holding her hat on, and this humour, this comedy | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
comes through in Lenci and it's what people love, but also if you just pick her up and have a look, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:20 | |
-she's also clearly marked underneath, you've got all the marks there of the firm. -Oh, yeah. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:26 | |
Lenci, made in Torino, and the big thing is look at the faces, and just look at her eyes underneath there. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
Scavini did these beautiful, smoky, almond eyes which actually, they are... | 0:34:31 | 0:34:36 | |
again, it's this sex appeal, it's just sexy, it just oozes that spirit of that time. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:43 | |
And they're all fabulous, but she is the one that struck me the most. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
Well, you are a very stylish girl. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
-Time to put you out your misery? -Yes, so come on. -You've got it absolutely bang on. -Have I? | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
-Hooray, we've done it! -So you're a bit disappointed, aren't you? | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
I'm disappointed. Shucks, you've got it. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
That is complete fluke because this was such an unusual one, I didn't know what to make of her. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
The Italians know their fashion and it just oozes from this figure, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:08 | |
and that's why this figure, you'd be looking at a price upwards of sort of £8,000 for her. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:14 | |
I mean, value here, we're looking about sort of £200 to £300 mark. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
Move to the middle, we're looking at towards sort of £2,000. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
When you get to the end, it's all about the quality, it's about | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
the amount of man-hours that have gone into it, and also about the humour. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
Hooray, I got it right. It probably won't be repeated, but now at least, if you have | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
an Art Deco figure at home, you've got some idea now what to look for. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
-Your husband collected jade. -He did. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
And can I ask you whether you like it. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
Not particularly. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
Why not? | 0:36:01 | 0:36:02 | |
There's something eerie about it. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
Eerie? | 0:36:05 | 0:36:06 | |
Well, neither of my children liked it. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
As children, they used to run past it. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
It used to be on a shelf along the landing and they would run down the stairs as fast as they could. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:20 | |
-This was the bogey man. -It was. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
First of all, what part of the world does it come from? That you presumably know. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
I'm assuming China, yes. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
Yeah, it is Chinese and it's known in China as a Buddha's hand citron. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:32 | |
It is a member of the citrus family, it's almost inedible but it is fragrant. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:39 | |
-Oh. -The Chinese like putting Buddha's hand citrons into rooms | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
in order to give the room a perfume and well, I think you'd agree, that it is very finger-like, isn't it? | 0:36:43 | 0:36:50 | |
-Mm, oh, yes. -The fingers referring to Buddha | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
make this a very significant Buddhistic symbol. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
The fingers appear to be drawing in. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
Exactly, that's what's eerie about it. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
But that should encourage you, because the Chinese see that as pulling in wealth, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:12 | |
and just to make the point even more auspicious, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
we have these little bats flying around, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
which also bring wealth and happiness, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
so you've got one major Buddha's hand citron and you've got | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
a second Buddha's hand, and look at the carving on that, the under cutting, the attention to the leaves. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
And when you think that jade is an incredibly hard substance, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
to create something that complicated in a very, very hard substance is actually really rather clever. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:40 | |
-OK, well the question is - is it going to bring you wealth? -Bit late now. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
-Do you know how much your husband might have paid for it? -No idea. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:52 | |
Well, the fashion for jade at the moment is quite good, the Chinese in particular like buying jades | 0:37:54 | 0:38:01 | |
of a good quality - this is quite auspicious. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
It's difficult to date it exactly when it was carved. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
It could be 18th century, I have a feeling it's more likely to be 19th century, but it's a good object | 0:38:07 | 0:38:14 | |
and I think in today's market it would probably fetch | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
-somewhere in the region of £10,000 to £20,000. -Good. I don't think he'll sell it, though. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:25 | |
Do you know, I have never seen this engraving before? | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
Good Lord, really? | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
I mean, I think it's an absolute joy. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
-Who did it belong to? -My grandmother. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
-What sort of period? -'20s. -Right. -'20s or slightly earlier, I imagine. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
So your grandmother owning this - tell me about her. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
-Well, she was a chorus girl in the Gaiety Theatre. -Wow. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:51 | |
-And my grandfather, his parents actually owned the Gaiety Theatre at the time. -Wonderful. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:58 | |
And were not particularly pleased that he married a Gaiety Girl | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
and I understand cut him off without a penny. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
-Oh, that's so sad. -There we are. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
-And of course it is a lady's visiting card case. -Absolutely. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:12 | |
The quality of this is above the norm. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
Oh, that's good to hear. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
Because generally what you find is the top just flips back on a hinge, or slides off, in some cases. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:24 | |
But this one, with this button release, is lovely, a nice sign of quality. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:30 | |
The maker's mark there, we've got the maker George Heath. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
-1887 is the actual date on it. -Is it? | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
-I mean, for example, look at that engraving. Can you see how that bird just goes across there? -Yes, yes. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:42 | |
-And all this of course down to the opening of Japan to the West. -Mm, mm. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:47 | |
Now, as to value... gosh, what is the most gorgeous Geisha worth? | 0:39:47 | 0:39:52 | |
I think you'd be hard pushed at auction to get her for less than £1,000. | 0:39:53 | 0:40:00 | |
Good Lord. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
Good Lord. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:03 | |
Well, that's marvellous. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
I think she's gorgeous, not just marvellous, she's wonderful. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
It's well known by the people who watch this programme that I'm very excited by railway history. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:14 | |
I just love the way it fits into our lives. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
What we've got here are some exceptional things that really go back to the early days of railways. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
And here we have, I know, an image of John Dixon, who was an associate engineer, surveyor, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:29 | |
working with Stevenson in those early days. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
So where do you fit in? | 0:40:33 | 0:40:34 | |
Well, all these records were in my husband's family history box | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
and I did go through them 30 years ago and found all these items. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:44 | |
-He is a Dixon, is he? -Yes, he is, yes. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
Right, so we've got a direct link back into those early days. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
-Yes. -This is a letter from Dixon, who was there. -Yes. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
-During the Rainhill trials. -Yes. -When The Rocket was first shown. He's describing what he saw. -Yes. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:58 | |
I mean, I think it's just, you know, I touch that, and I'm there myself. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
-Absolutely. -Here is someone who was watching The Rocket, a great success. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
-Yes. -All the other locomotives fail. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
And that was the beginning of the modern railway history. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
Absolutely. Amazing. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
And these are extraordinary - very early Stockton and Darlington tickets. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
-Very thin bits of paper... -Very thin. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
..that were cut out and filled in by the man in the ticket office. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:25 | |
-Yes, yes. -And again, this is the very beginning of that history. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
-Yes. -I think it's extraordinary, I'm really excited by just the physical contact of these things. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:35 | |
-Yes, they are. -But most of all I want to know about this. Why have you got a parcel? | 0:41:35 | 0:41:41 | |
Well, this is a parcel which was produced by my husband's great-uncle, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
and he had made up a parcel which is the intimate story of the origin of the railways | 0:41:46 | 0:41:53 | |
-and he made it up in 1925 at the centenary of the Stockton to Darlington Railway. -1925. | 0:41:53 | 0:42:00 | |
But it says at the bottom that it's to be carefully preserved for | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
the bicentenary of the Stockton to Darlington Railway in 2025. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:11 | |
This is annoying - we've got 14 years to wait. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
-I know, it's all sealed up with sealing wax. -I'm not allowed to open it. -So we're not allowed to open it. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:19 | |
-I mean, as to valuing that, I've no idea. Until we know what's in it. -Until we know what's in it, no. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:24 | |
-It could be thousands of pounds, or ten pounds. -Oh, yes. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
But it's a great time capsule. The letter is a hugely valuable document. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:32 | |
A witness of the Rainhill trials. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
I can see that fetching up to £2,000 or £3,000, because it's such | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
-an important document in terms of the railway history. -Goodness. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
The tickets - what's a railway ticket worth? | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
Not much. These sort of tickets from those early days are going to be | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
£50 to £100 each, possibly more. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
-So I think one of these tickets would easily take me home. -I don't think so! | 0:42:52 | 0:42:58 | |
I wonder if anyone would notice if I just prised this open here. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
I expect they would, and Paul Atterbury would have my guts for garters, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
because it says here, "Not to be opened till 2025". | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
Until next time, from Layer Marney and all the team here, bye-bye. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:19 |