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On 16th October 1908, Britain's first powered aviator took to

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the skies, and this is a recently-made replica of his plane.

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And the aviator's name - Samuel Cody.

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He's the unsung hero of powered flight, and no,

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I hadn't heard of him either. But his is a remarkable story.

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Welcome back to the Antiques Roadshow from the home

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of aviation - from Farnborough, in Hampshire.

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The astonishing achievements

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and inventions of British aviation began within sight of this -

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the original HQ of the Royal Flying Corps in Farnborough.

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The Army's Royal Engineer Balloon School began here in 1905,

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bringing with it the latest in kite and glider designs,

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dirigibles and the first attempts at powered flight.

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By 1908, Samuel F Cody, a flamboyant Wild West showman,

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not to be confused with Buffalo Bill Cody, became the first man

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to successfully achieve sustained powered flight in Britain,

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five years after the Wright Brothers in America.

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Cody's love of photography means we have a great record of him

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with his first plane, the Army Aeroplane No 1.

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Cody's endeavours aren't generally well known, but the people here

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at the Farnborough Air Sciences Trust are dedicated to

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keeping his achievements, and those of the aviation industry, alive.

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They've accumulated a feast of photographs, records

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and 350,000 other pieces of flight history.

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Everything from 150,000 glass plates,

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designs for missiles and engines,

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to the invention of a material we take for granted today -

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carbon fibre.

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The old Royal Flying Corps HQ

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has proved just a bit too small

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for the Trust's rescue efforts.

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They've so much, in fact, they've bought 20 shipping containers -

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it's a labyrinth of hidden curiosities just waiting

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to be discovered.

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There's enough here to keep the Roadshow going for years.

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Mm, I wonder if there's anything in here I could take to the Roadshow.

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A stone's throw from the museum are the wonderful

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Heritage-listed Farnborough Wind Tunnels.

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Thanks to a £20 million restoration scheme

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eight years ago by the company that own the business park surrounding

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the tunnels, this unique snapshot of our aerospace history will

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survive and we're able to hold our Roadshow on this iconic site.

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So for all intents and purposes,

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it looks like just an ordinary 20th-century pocket watch.

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What do you think of it?

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I don't know very much about it at all,

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it was my father's, who got it from his father.

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It came over from Canada along with my father

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during the Second World War and here it stayed.

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Well, it's interesting that it's come over from Canada,

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because it's actually rather a special watch.

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Is it?

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It might surprise you to know that it's only gold-plated.

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-Mm.

-I can tell that, just from its colour,

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but it has a very crisp and easy-to-read dial.

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-It does.

-Do you know why that might be?

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No idea.

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OK, well, the instant giveaway is that it says "Ball, Cleveland".

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Now that, to collectors of American watches, is a magic name.

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The Ball Watch Company never made watches.

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-Right.

-But they commissioned other people to make watches,

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and this is actually made by a factory called Hamilton.

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Now, a guy called Webb Ball was put as, if you like,

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the official timekeeper of all the American railroads.

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Oh!

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And some time in the 1890s, there was a major rail crash which was

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put down to a dodgy timekeeper, so he was effectively

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commissioned to get the whole thing working properly to the minute,

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so there were no longer collisions taking place.

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The thing I can see immediately on the front of that dial is,

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underneath Ball, it says "Official RR Standard".

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Official railroad standard.

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Have you ever opened the back?

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-Yes.

-You have?

-Yes.

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-Did you think it was pretty or not?

-I did.

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It's a screw back, as all these things are, and a lovely

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damascene nickel movement, and there it is, you've got the whole thing.

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Ball tells you everything, it's a cracking good object.

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Now, you said that your great...your grandfather....

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-Grandfather.

-..had come from Canada,

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and there we are, that is a Canadian gold-plated case.

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Lovely.

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And it makes sense, because Ball was also in charge of the railways

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in Mexico and in Canada, so this would have been made

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almost certainly for use on the Canadian railways.

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The date of this is typically 1930,

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so he would have got it before he came over.

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As you probably have noticed - how on earth do you set the hands?

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-I know.

-Have you discovered that?

-No.

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OK, well, that is - if you were a railway employee,

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-you couldn't mess around with the hands.

-Ah.

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If that was in your pocket, you couldn't pull the stem winder

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out and accidentally go backwards and cause another major

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derailment, so you had to undo the front bezel, OK, and then at

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the one o'clock position is a little lever, and then you can then move

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the hands, so that stopped it being fiddled around with accidentally.

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Ingenious.

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It's a lovely thing. Railroad quality, very important.

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Now, if it had been by Howard instead of Hamilton,

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although retailed by Ball, Howards are many thousands of pounds.

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But here we are, this is a gold plated watch,

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still going to make you over £1,000 at auction.

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Is it really? Wow.

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I've seen a lot of Minton majolica over the years and just

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when I think, "Well, there can't be many more surprises left,"

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you produce a piece that I've never seen before.

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-Really?

-That's right. Tell me about it.

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Well, it came from my grandmother's.

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I remember it on her sideboard when I was a little girl

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and my mother inherited it and it's come to me, right down.

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It's a family piece all the way through.

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That's right, yes.

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Because there's another little surprise inside,

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-because when we look...

-Yes.

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There is one bird looking out through the flute

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-and his friend sitting on the top.

-Yes.

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So what do you use it for, in the family?

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It's just an ornament, it sits in the glass cabinet.

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How strange!

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Minton were very helpful to us all, they put so clear marks

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-and told us all about it.

-Yes.

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-So you've seen, I think, the clear marks there.

-Yes.

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We've got the name of the factory, Minton, clearly stamped, a mould

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number, and that rather big shape in the middle is the year code.

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-Yes.

-And that's the symbol for 1871.

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-Oh, right, that's very...

-It's quite old.

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It's quite old, yes.

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Now here, the majolica is combined with painting,

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they've enamelled the bird on the top.

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-What bird is that?

-I don't know.

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I don't think they saw one of those in Stoke-on-Trent!

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So it's quite a rare thing.

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Right.

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And that's good in majolica, because with Minton,

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some models we see again and again and they're quite popular.

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When you get something rare by the top makers of majolica

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like Minton, that's quite a bit of money.

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I can see it 4,000, 5,000.

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No!

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6,000...

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Do you want me to fall over?

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Not on top of the bird! I've never seen another one.

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I don't believe that.

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Well, it's a wooden column, doesn't look particularly exciting.

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What did you used to think it was?

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Previously we thought it was a epidiascope.

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My grandmother, my father's mother,

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she used it as basically a bedside table.

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Do you know, it would make a mighty fine bedside table,

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it's the right sort of height, right sort of dimensions.

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Well, it is much more than a bedside table

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-with knobs on, isn't it?

-Absolutely.

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Because this is a stereo viewer, and because these photographs were taken

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with lenses that were as far apart as your eyes, it means that when you

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put these photographs into a viewer, look through the lenses, your brain

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re-jigs the images and recreates the three-dimensional image.

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Now, to all of us 21st-century people, we're saying, "Oh, yeah,

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"and what's so exciting about that?"

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But just imagine in the 1840s when this type of image was

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first seen, it was revolutionary, it was Star Wars, it was the future.

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It was impossible and it became an absolute craze.

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And the viewers came in all sorts of shapes and sizes.

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Now, how much have you been able to find out about this particular one?

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Not a huge amount.

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I mean, I know it was my great-great-grandfather's,

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so he was an amateur keen photographer

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so these are his photos from a Grand Tour that he did back in...

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Yes, I would think probably round about 1905-1910.

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And this is absolutely what you would find in a conventional

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Victorian collection of stereo photographs.

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The one thing I would say is that

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I don't think your great-great grandfather took them.

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Have a look on the back.

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These were commercially produced and you could buy them

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as souvenirs and then you've got wonderful ones relating to the

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Royal Family, you've got Balmoral and Osborne in the Isle of Wight,

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so you can see this is a very rounded Victorian collection.

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Before we open it up, what I'd like to do is to enjoy the object.

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This fabulous burr walnut veneer here with the engraved brass

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strap work. I mean, it really is a top-of-the-range model

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and if I open the top, here and here,

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this actually shines the light down onto what is inside which is a sort

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of roll of stereoscopic photographs, which you can load up yourself,

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and then you turn these knobs and you get the next one coming up.

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But this is a special one

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because you've got a viewer on each side, and that's called

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a sweetheart viewer, because I think the idea was... And do excuse me,

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but if you'd like to line up. In fact, I should do it with your dad.

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-OK.

-OK.

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OK, so, you know, the idea is that you'd be looking like this

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and then every so often you'd be...

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"Hello!" Exactly, this was

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the sweetheart viewer, you see,

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so you would depart to one corner of the drawing room,

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everybody would ignore you because you were just looking at

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the 3D photographs but, in fact, all kinds of flirtations were going on.

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What a thought!

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Well, I think the object itself, the actual viewer,

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has a finite value, I mean, that is going to be £400-£500, but there

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is also a significant additional value through the cards themselves.

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So I would say that the whole collection - the cards

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and the viewer - I would put it at between perhaps £800 and £1,000.

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OK.

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So it is a table-top stereoscopic viewer and not an epidiascope.

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Yes.

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-Lovely to have that finally clarified.

-Yeah, thank you.

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-Thanks so much, thank you.

-Thank you.

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So how long have you had this chair?

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I've known the chair in my family since 1945 and then it was

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handed down from my grandparents to my parents and then on to me.

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And when you look at it, does it say anything to you?

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It tells me a story that it's very, very old.

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Such as what?

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That it goes back to at least 1666.

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So we think of 1666

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as the Great Fire of London in the walled

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City of London, that's when the Great Fire started,

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and there it is carved in the back of this chair.

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Yes.

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This particular chair is known as a wainscot chair.

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Right.

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That's a high-backed chair with a panelled back,

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but what we have to ask ourselves, is the chair of the period?

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I have had a good look at it and when I look at the back,

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the back is absolutely fabulous.

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Then I saw the date 1666 and thought, "Wow!"

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Yes.

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But when I got more into it, I think what you'll find is,

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it's old elements.

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-Yes.

-You've got... The front rails are old.

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The back unfortunately has been re-carved at a later date.

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If this was the date it's purporting to be, this would be a museum piece.

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-Right.

-It would be worth £15,000-£20,000 if it was right.

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-Right.

-But unfortunately, it isn't,

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so hopefully I'm letting you down gently.

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-Yes.

-It's a nice family piece, it holds good colour.

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Today, as a decorative piece, it's worth about £300 or £400, but as

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I say, at first I thought,

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"Wow, this is one of the most important finds

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"we've found dating from the Great Fire of London on the Roadshow."

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It's not quite there.

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I must say it's really unusual to have somebody of your age

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with a coin collection like this. Where did you get them from?

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Well, we were tidying out my nanny's garage and under lots

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of piles of rubbish, we found some old cigar boxes full of these coins.

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They were my great-grandad's.

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Oh, really?

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I mean, it really is an extensive collection of coins

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and I get quite excited when I see a collection like this. I mean,

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really, you've got the history of coins in a few albums.

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You've got some very early staters and Roman coins

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and Greek coins, you've got Dionysus here in silver, and that

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one's about 150 BC, you know, when you think 150 years before Jesus.

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-I mean, it's staggering.

-Whereabouts would that be from?

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This one is Greece, then you've got a Swedish coin here which is 1670.

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That's not a particularly rare coin but the condition again is lovely.

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But then you go to my favourite coin by a long shot,

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is this Alexander III Macedonia,

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300 BC.

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Wow.

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You know, it's staggering, you know.

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And do you love them as a collection,

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have you researched them or...?

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Well, we tried to research them

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but we couldn't really find much about them, yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, this would take you three or four months to go

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through all of these and catalogue them, and it will take...

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There are so many variations and all that sort of thing.

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But they're staggering and exciting to see.

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I can see this is going to be a lifelong hobby for you,

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but I'd really recommend getting some good reference books,

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going to the British Museum. There's great books

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like Coins Of The World, you know. Really do your research because

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this will set you up in good stead, they're such a good investment.

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Coins, even in these tough times,

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have been really going up in price.

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Is there any particular that you like?

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Um, this one here is my favourite.

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I can see why, but that's actually a medallion,

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that's a religious medallion,

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but probably Gdansk or German area, 1650, not really worth a great deal.

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Pretty nice condition, when you think of something of 1650, when you

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compare it in age to something two-and-a-half...or 2,000 years old,

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they were making as good a coinage then, as they were in 1650.

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What would that have been given out for, then?

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This is to commemorate a baptism,

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and they were really worn under the shirt as a symbol

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of your devotion to religion and protection, all that sort of stuff.

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I mean, you've got Yahweh - the name of Jehovah - at the top there,

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and then a baptism scene.

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That one is worth about £80 to a collector

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because they're not that rare.

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I would say you've got a few pounds on some of these,

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you've got £10 or £20 on some of these.

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You've got £200 to £300 on that one

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and you've got about 15 of those.

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-Have we?

-You've got... This one, I would say, is about £400.

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I need to spend a bit more time working out the prices,

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but overall here I think you've probably...

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OK, let's work it out a different way.

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How much pocket money do you get a week?

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I get about £2.

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OK, well, Dad you don't need to give him

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-any more pocket money for a while.

-That's good to know.

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Because I think you've got about £4,000, maybe £5,000 worth here.

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-Wow.

-Brilliant.

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-Thank you very much.

-A pleasure.

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Do you read Russian?

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No. Not apart from that bit on there.

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I don't read Russian, but even I can tell what that says.

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It's just saying Moscow 1881.

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1881.

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I mean, this caught my eye for that reason,

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and what you've brought me is this really huge album,

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which seems to be full of highly coloured pictures of Moscow.

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Yeah.

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Obviously in 1881,

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well before the Russian Revolution,

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and when I say highly coloured,

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I mean really highly coloured.

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This image here, this must be St Basil's Cathedral.

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It obviously was once a photograph.

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You can see down at the bottom here.

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Just at the bottom, yes.

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It's been very carefully finished with some kind of watercolour,

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to bring the colour up to something really quite spectacular.

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But what I also like about this album is that, yes, it contains

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these amazingly iconic images of Moscow that we all know about.

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-Yeah.

-But a couple of them are really much more homely,

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and, to me, almost more interesting.

0:18:580:19:00

This particular one caught my eye.

0:19:000:19:02

It's a street scene, isn't it?

0:19:020:19:05

Yeah, just an ordinary scene, could be from the Wild West virtually,

0:19:050:19:09

before motorised cars, because you've only got horses and that.

0:19:090:19:13

I mean, just in that one picture, I feel that I've got

0:19:130:19:15

an insight into what it was like to live in pre-revolutionary Russia.

0:19:150:19:19

-Could be, yes.

-It's a very colourful scene,

0:19:190:19:21

I'm sure it wasn't always that colourful.

0:19:210:19:23

No, probably not, probably not.

0:19:230:19:26

Tell me about it, where did you get it from?

0:19:260:19:28

It's been following me round for about... I don't know, 50 years.

0:19:280:19:32

I don't know whether I found it or whether it was given to me,

0:19:320:19:35

I just cannot remember.

0:19:350:19:37

About the only family heirloom I've got.

0:19:370:19:40

Well, it's something that really does have quite a strong interest,

0:19:410:19:45

particularly for historians.

0:19:450:19:46

-Yes.

-And it's just the kind of thing that Russian buyers are very

0:19:460:19:51

interested in acquiring.

0:19:510:19:52

This is the kind of album that some people would very

0:19:520:19:55

dearly like to see brought back and taken back into Russia.

0:19:550:19:57

Brought back to Russia.

0:19:570:19:59

-It's certainly got some value.

-Oh, right.

0:19:590:20:01

-It's got some problems with condition.

-Well, yes.

0:20:010:20:04

Some of the pages are loose, but that can be repaired.

0:20:040:20:06

Yes.

0:20:060:20:07

I think this would very easily make £3,000-4,000.

0:20:070:20:11

You're joking!

0:20:110:20:13

Oh, right, OK, she might get a new kitchen after all, then!

0:20:130:20:19

Well, two completely different objects,

0:20:230:20:25

but actually they've got something in common, haven't they?

0:20:250:20:28

What have you brought along?

0:20:280:20:30

I've brought a mammoth tooth that my father dug up in the garden.

0:20:300:20:33

And the bowl.

0:20:330:20:34

I've brought along a marble bowl which

0:20:340:20:36

I found at the end of my garden when I moved into a new house.

0:20:360:20:40

I mean, quite extraordinary objects to find.

0:20:400:20:43

I mean, the mammoth tooth, fossilised mammoth tooth, it doesn't

0:20:430:20:47

look much from the top, but it is absolutely beautiful, isn't it?

0:20:470:20:51

And sometimes this is

0:20:510:20:52

sliced and then used

0:20:520:20:55

and set into the top of a box

0:20:550:20:57

and it looks almost like an agate,

0:20:570:21:00

I mean, it's really quite a beautiful material.

0:21:000:21:04

This is made of onyx and the onyx is probably from Italy.

0:21:040:21:08

But I think that the bowl would have been imported in the plain form,

0:21:080:21:13

and then these gilt metal mounts in the Gothic style have been

0:21:130:21:18

applied to it, and these absolutely lovely little pietra dura,

0:21:180:21:22

or hard stone, roundels have been set into them,

0:21:220:21:26

and they almost certainly would have been made in Derbyshire.

0:21:260:21:28

So the bowl has been assembled and created, if you like,

0:21:280:21:31

in Derbyshire around 1870,

0:21:310:21:34

so some time after the mammoth was walking on the Earth.

0:21:340:21:39

How do you feel about this tooth?

0:21:390:21:40

Well, I love it and I've had it all my life.

0:21:400:21:45

I would save it if the house was burning down.

0:21:450:21:47

-First thing you'd save?

-No, after my husband and my son.

0:21:470:21:50

OK, get your priorities right.

0:21:500:21:51

Good. And how do you feel about your find?

0:21:510:21:54

Well, I like it very much. Unfortunately, my husband doesn't,

0:21:540:21:57

he told me to take it to a charity shop.

0:21:570:22:00

OK, well, the next question is value.

0:22:000:22:03

The value of this bowl is in the region of £200.

0:22:030:22:07

Gosh!

0:22:070:22:09

So the question is, is the mammoth tooth more or less?

0:22:090:22:13

And it's more, at about £1,000.

0:22:130:22:15

-Wow.

-That is actually... Wow.

0:22:150:22:19

I think they are both extraordinary finds

0:22:190:22:22

to just be, you know, in your garden.

0:22:220:22:25

I mean, who knows what else lies out there?

0:22:250:22:27

The perfect accessory for a dapper chap in tweeds,

0:22:300:22:33

-but this is not what it seems to be.

-Absolutely not.

0:22:330:22:36

This is a stick gun, or sometimes known as a poacher's gun,

0:22:360:22:39

which came into my family's possession just after the war.

0:22:390:22:43

It came from an estate

0:22:430:22:44

next door to the RAF station that my father was commanding,

0:22:440:22:48

and they used to go and shoot on the estate

0:22:480:22:50

until, sadly, the lord of the manor died,

0:22:500:22:52

and his widow was left with a collection of guns, including this.

0:22:520:22:56

She didn't know what to do with them,

0:22:560:22:57

but thought, "Let's sign them over to the squadron."

0:22:570:23:00

So my father appropriately signed to receive them

0:23:000:23:03

-into the squadron armoury.

-Right.

0:23:030:23:05

And then the station moved on,

0:23:050:23:06

and then two years later when the squadron moved,

0:23:060:23:09

the armourer came to my father

0:23:090:23:11

and said, "Your guns are still in the store, sir,"

0:23:110:23:13

and he said, "No, I signed for the squadron."

0:23:130:23:15

"No, sir, we have 303 rifles in here and this is a shotgun

0:23:150:23:19

"and more to the point, YOU signed for it."

0:23:190:23:21

If you've signed for it, it's yours.

0:23:210:23:22

"It's yours," so my father inherited this, and another gun as well,

0:23:220:23:26

but this is the novelty.

0:23:260:23:27

It's made in Birmingham.

0:23:270:23:29

I can't see a maker's name on it,

0:23:290:23:32

but that's not particularly relevant.

0:23:320:23:35

A lot of them were made with no name.

0:23:350:23:38

Everybody refers to them as poachers' guns. They weren't.

0:23:380:23:41

A poacher couldn't afford this,

0:23:410:23:43

this is quite an expensive piece of kit,

0:23:430:23:45

this is sterling silver, but a gentleman...

0:23:450:23:48

And this is late...

0:23:480:23:51

Well, this is about 1890-odd,

0:23:510:23:53

but prior to that - and they were made prior to that -

0:23:530:23:56

Victorian collectors, who would collect anything

0:23:560:24:00

including wild birds... It was very handy to have this by your side

0:24:000:24:05

and if some little creature that you didn't know what it was,

0:24:050:24:07

poked its head out of the hedge, you could just bring it up and pop it.

0:24:070:24:11

Bang.

0:24:110:24:14

And would have these been fairly common as a gun?

0:24:140:24:16

Yes, you see quite a lot of them, they're very collectable.

0:24:160:24:20

This is on your shotgun certificate,

0:24:200:24:22

as they have to be, as it's a working weapon,

0:24:220:24:25

and you actually have to have a collector's status

0:24:250:24:27

to have it on your certificate, which you obviously have.

0:24:270:24:30

-I have, yes.

-Have you ever thought about values?

0:24:300:24:32

I thought it must have been worth maybe a couple of hundred pounds,

0:24:320:24:36

because it doesn't look in very good condition

0:24:360:24:38

and it's not a very elaborate piece, but is that so, or more?

0:24:380:24:41

You're pretty well...

0:24:410:24:42

I would put perhaps another 100, sort of £200-£300, but, yes,

0:24:420:24:46

condition-wise, it's a bit sad, but then again, given its age,

0:24:460:24:50

that's what you expect, so a very, very nice piece.

0:24:500:24:52

-Good, thanks very much, that's kind of you.

-You're welcome.

0:24:520:24:55

Do you not think you could be forgiven

0:24:570:24:59

-for assuming that this is a bit of costume jewellery?

-Yes.

0:24:590:25:03

In fact, what do you think it is?

0:25:030:25:04

-Do you think it is costume jewellery?

-We weren't at all sure.

0:25:040:25:07

-No.

-So we thought it might be worth nothing,

0:25:070:25:09

or it might be something really quite special.

0:25:090:25:12

Because it's colourful, but it looks pretty tatty,

0:25:120:25:16

but there's something about it

0:25:160:25:18

that I think is worth mentioning to you,

0:25:180:25:20

because it's not costume jewellery.

0:25:200:25:23

How old do you think it might be?

0:25:230:25:27

19th century?

0:25:270:25:29

At best. No, it's actually 17th century.

0:25:290:25:34

-Really?

-Yeah. I think it was made in around about 1650.

0:25:340:25:39

-That's lovely.

-Mm. Where did it come from?

0:25:390:25:43

An aunt, who came out of Austria in her 30s,

0:25:430:25:48

but she did stay in Belgium, we think,

0:25:480:25:52

as a companion for a few years just before that.

0:25:520:25:55

So might it be one of those pieces that someone says,

0:25:550:25:58

"Thank you very much, you've looked after me..."

0:25:580:26:01

-Could be.

-"..and here's a piece of jewellery as thanks,"

0:26:010:26:04

of which it then sprinkles through to you?

0:26:040:26:06

It is enamelled, it's not metal. It's gold,

0:26:060:26:10

in fact - dare I say? - quite high carat gold. North European.

0:26:100:26:14

It's difficult to be exact which country it comes from,

0:26:140:26:17

-but I tend to think more sort of, I don't know, Flemish.

-OK.

0:26:170:26:22

Possibly Dutch, that sort of thing.

0:26:220:26:24

At the bottom here, we have suspended...

0:26:240:26:26

three natural drop pearls,

0:26:260:26:30

and they're very, very distressed,

0:26:300:26:32

so it's been through the wars, this piece,

0:26:320:26:35

it's hardly in perfect condition.

0:26:350:26:37

It's suspended from three

0:26:370:26:39

tiers of gold chain

0:26:390:26:41

and in the centre we have

0:26:410:26:43

a little sort of miniature, I suppose,

0:26:430:26:47

and it's what we call a religious reliquary pendant.

0:26:470:26:51

So it's 17th century, North European, reliquary pendant.

0:26:510:26:56

What shall we say?

0:26:560:26:58

No idea.

0:26:580:26:59

£1,000 to £1,500.

0:27:010:27:03

Right, very nice, thank you.

0:27:030:27:05

Here on the Antiques Roadshow,

0:27:090:27:11

many, many people bring in their photograph albums,

0:27:110:27:13

and in the majority of cases, they're interesting to the family,

0:27:130:27:17

but to anybody else, they're of little interest

0:27:170:27:20

and therefore little value.

0:27:200:27:21

What's taken me with this collection is not only the age of these,

0:27:210:27:26

because they all date from the 1850s,

0:27:260:27:28

but some of the compositions, which I think are absolutely enchanting.

0:27:280:27:33

As an example, is these two gentlemen sitting,

0:27:330:27:36

playing chess together, their hats discarded on the ground.

0:27:360:27:40

Who are they?

0:27:400:27:42

Well, that's my great-grandfather's older brother

0:27:420:27:47

and that's his middle brother.

0:27:470:27:49

And do we know who was taking the photograph?

0:27:490:27:51

Well, I can only assume it was my great-grandfather

0:27:510:27:54

that took that particular one, but they all took turns...

0:27:540:27:56

-So all three of them were photographers?

-I think so, yes.

0:27:560:27:59

Cos that's amazing. And this dates from round about...?

0:27:590:28:02

I think it's 1857, or that sort of era.

0:28:020:28:05

Because in those very early days, a lot of photographs were portraits

0:28:050:28:09

and there wasn't anybody like a professional photographer.

0:28:090:28:12

And then we go further into the album,

0:28:120:28:14

-and again, here we are, family group.

-Yeah.

0:28:140:28:18

Wigwam in the garden, they're smiling, having a nice time,

0:28:180:28:22

those sort of portraits you really never ever see.

0:28:220:28:26

And here are some more family portraits

0:28:260:28:29

and the family name, obviously - Ellen Rayne

0:28:290:28:32

and William T Rayne.

0:28:320:28:34

Yeah, that's my great-grandfather.

0:28:340:28:36

-And a young man, wasn't he?

-He was, yes.

0:28:360:28:37

And he was taking photographs probably in his early 20s.

0:28:370:28:41

I think, well, possibly before that,

0:28:410:28:43

I think maybe he was a teenager when he started.

0:28:430:28:45

And there he is again, a sort of Beatles-looking cap on,

0:28:450:28:50

and further down, a family portrait, a double one this time,

0:28:500:28:55

and what I particularly like about these two is

0:28:550:28:57

here is a sort of formal tea party, it looks like, out in the garden,

0:28:570:29:02

and then down below, here are the farm workers.

0:29:020:29:05

Because again, you know,

0:29:050:29:07

taking photographs of the locality was not very popular.

0:29:070:29:11

They took photographs of each other, but look,

0:29:110:29:13

they've taken some enchanting photographs of these three guys

0:29:130:29:16

-and two girls, and they've got their hobnail boots on.

-Hobnail, yes.

0:29:160:29:20

So, again, very rare to see this type of social history.

0:29:200:29:23

So what was their history?

0:29:230:29:25

Did they travel at all or did they stay here in the UK?

0:29:250:29:27

In about 1860, I think, the elder brother went off to India as a...

0:29:270:29:32

-To India?

-Yeah, he was a railway engineer.

0:29:320:29:36

So another album, and where is this?

0:29:360:29:39

-That's Gloucester.

-And you can see

0:29:390:29:41

this cart that looks as though...

0:29:410:29:43

-Yes.

-..it's in trouble.

0:29:430:29:44

-Some chap standing in the road and sort of...

-Like a ghost.

0:29:440:29:47

Like a ghost, yeah, and there's a chap climbing out the window there.

0:29:470:29:50

-HE LAUGHS

-Oh, yeah! So early.

0:29:500:29:52

I mean, you just don't see images this early

0:29:520:29:55

and these are obviously of Indian ladies

0:29:550:29:58

relaxing on their carpet there.

0:29:580:30:00

And these family groups.

0:30:020:30:03

Well, I think a really important archive because it's so early.

0:30:050:30:10

I think the family were hugely talented,

0:30:100:30:12

and to a collector, ooh,

0:30:120:30:14

I think we're talking about an archive like that,

0:30:140:30:17

should you ever decide to sell it, which I'm sure you won't,

0:30:170:30:19

I think you'd be talking about

0:30:190:30:21

certainly between £6,000 and £10,000.

0:30:210:30:23

Well, that's nice to know.

0:30:230:30:25

But, as you say, we won't be selling them.

0:30:250:30:27

-We all love a really good film.

-Yes.

0:30:300:30:33

-And looking around here, I can see real Hollywood nobility.

-Yes.

0:30:330:30:37

What's your connection with this?

0:30:370:30:39

Well, my father was in the film business,

0:30:390:30:41

he was a director of photography.

0:30:410:30:43

His name was Jack Hildyard.

0:30:430:30:45

And what were his famous films?

0:30:450:30:47

He worked on Bridge On The River Kwai, he won an Oscar for that.

0:30:470:30:52

And these films, Antony And Cleopatra,

0:30:520:30:55

he worked with Elizabeth Taylor.

0:30:550:30:56

Millionairess, he worked with Sophia Loren,

0:30:560:30:59

and he worked with some of the actresses

0:30:590:31:01

that gave him some of these gifts,

0:31:010:31:02

just in appreciation, really, for making them look good.

0:31:020:31:07

-Of course, he was very important.

-He was, he was.

0:31:070:31:11

-They wanted to look their best.

-Yes.

0:31:110:31:12

-So obviously, Sophia Loren looking gorgeous.

-Yes.

0:31:120:31:17

-And your father behind.

-Yes.

0:31:170:31:19

So what is this one?

0:31:190:31:20

This was a goblet that was given to me

0:31:200:31:23

on my christening by Katharine Hepburn.

0:31:230:31:26

He worked on a film with her once, called Summer Madness, in Venice,

0:31:260:31:30

and she gave this to me, out of appreciation of him, really.

0:31:300:31:34

-And there's an inscription on the bottom.

-Yes. It says,

0:31:340:31:37

"Janine Elizabeth Hildyard," which is me,

0:31:370:31:39

"from her father's admirer, Katharine Hepburn," and then,

0:31:390:31:42

"Suddenly Last Summer," and, "Summer Madness, 1959,"

0:31:420:31:44

-which are the films they worked on.

-Fabulous.

0:31:440:31:48

And so all these other things - we've got...

0:31:480:31:50

That was given to him by Deborah Kerr.

0:31:500:31:53

I'm not sure which film that was.

0:31:530:31:55

This is Laurence Olivier.

0:31:550:31:56

Laurence Olivier, he was... That was the film called Henry V.

0:31:560:31:59

Very famous film of Laurence Olivier, so that's dedicated to him.

0:31:590:32:03

-Yes.

-And these...?

0:32:030:32:05

These are from Elizabeth Taylor,

0:32:050:32:06

he worked with her on a film called Antony And Cleopatra.

0:32:060:32:10

-Which was one of her great films.

-Yes.

0:32:100:32:12

So, fantastic provenance, and this one?

0:32:120:32:16

And this a watch that was given to him by Sophia Loren

0:32:160:32:19

and it's got just, "Love from Sophia,"

0:32:190:32:22

just written in biro on the inside, so you know.

0:32:220:32:25

But it's fabulous having all those with such provenance,

0:32:250:32:28

and, of course, that's the most important thing with these,

0:32:280:32:30

especially for you. You need to write it down

0:32:300:32:33

because, of course, a lot of the value of these

0:32:330:32:35

depends on the absolute provenance, which, of course, you've got.

0:32:350:32:39

Was your grandad working when you came along?

0:32:390:32:41

He wasn't by that stage, no, but I know that the cup that Mum

0:32:410:32:45

was given by Katharine Hepburn is now why my name is Katharine,

0:32:450:32:49

so something like that is really special.

0:32:490:32:51

Absolutely, and a lovely family heirloom.

0:32:510:32:53

Yeah, definitely, it's really exciting.

0:32:530:32:56

And was his favourite Katharine Hepburn?

0:32:560:32:58

I think possibly, yes.

0:32:580:33:00

I think you can see from the message on the bottom of the cup,

0:33:000:33:03

that she had a bit of a soft spot for him.

0:33:030:33:06

-Oh, well, we won't go into that, will we?

-Perhaps not!

0:33:060:33:10

And, actually, the values can be quite surprising too.

0:33:100:33:14

I think your little christening mug, that could be

0:33:140:33:18

-at least £1,000.

-Right.

0:33:180:33:22

And I think Deborah Kerr, maybe £500,

0:33:220:33:25

-and Laurence Olivier, about £500.

-Right.

0:33:250:33:28

The watch is quite interesting, it's a Universal watch,

0:33:280:33:32

which is quite a good make,

0:33:320:33:34

-it's 18 carat gold, but it's not a stunning watch.

-No.

0:33:340:33:38

-But even so, the watch itself is worth about £500.

-Right.

0:33:380:33:42

Of course, the real jewel in the crown, as we all know,

0:33:420:33:45

-is Elizabeth Taylor.

-Right.

0:33:450:33:47

Because, I mean, her jewellery's just sold and, you know,

0:33:470:33:50

-she is an iconic film actress.

-Yes.

0:33:500:33:53

And this lovely inscription and these birds of prey,

0:33:530:33:55

I could certainly see these going for £1,000, if not more.

0:33:550:34:01

But, you know, we're looking at well over £3,000.

0:34:010:34:04

-Right, wow.

-I mean...

0:34:040:34:07

-Yes, it's amazing, yes, thank you very much.

-Thank you.

0:34:070:34:10

What a lovely bowl! How long have you had it?

0:34:120:34:15

Thank you. It's not mine, actually, it's a friend's.

0:34:150:34:18

I'm here on her behalf. It was given to her as a present.

0:34:180:34:21

She was looking after an elderly lady for a few years

0:34:210:34:23

and she was allowed to choose an item

0:34:230:34:26

and that was the item she chose.

0:34:260:34:28

It's lovely, isn't it? It is very, very beautiful.

0:34:280:34:32

It's in the style of the Japanese Kakiemon.

0:34:320:34:34

Oh, right, OK.

0:34:340:34:36

Now, if it had been a genuine Japanese Kakiemon bowl

0:34:360:34:41

of the 17th century, we're looking at something like

0:34:410:34:46

-about £10,000 to £20,000.

-Goodness me!

0:34:460:34:51

-But it ain't!

-It's not.

-No, no.

0:34:510:34:54

A note on the back here.

0:34:540:34:56

Someone has made an attempt at dating and describing it.

0:34:560:35:00

It says Worcester, made by Flight's factory in the 18th century,

0:35:000:35:05

-but that's wrong, as well.

-Is it? Oh, OK. That's interesting.

0:35:050:35:11

Now, this pattern, Japanese Kakiemon, was copied by everybody

0:35:110:35:15

and was certainly copied by Worcester, copied by Meissen,

0:35:150:35:18

-copied by everybody.

-Oh, OK.

-They loved the design.

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It's a beautiful, beautiful design, isn't it?

0:35:230:35:25

-It is gorgeous, yes.

-It really is gorgeous.

-OK.

0:35:250:35:27

It actually, because of its glaze, is a very, very blued glaze

0:35:270:35:32

-and the foot ring is rather small...

-OK.

0:35:320:35:35

..which indicates to me that it's made by

0:35:350:35:37

a firm in Paris called Samson.

0:35:370:35:41

-Samson.

-And it's an actual fake or a repro.

0:35:410:35:46

-Oh, no!

-Made in the 19th century.

-Oh, dear!

0:35:460:35:50

And, unfortunately, instead of being worth £20,000...

0:35:500:35:52

Oh, what a nightmare!

0:35:520:35:54

..it's actually worth about £150 to £200.

0:35:540:35:57

Oh, OK, never mind.

0:35:570:35:58

But it's still a lovely bowl, isn't it, really?

0:35:580:36:00

-It is beautiful, yes.

-But a great, great piece.

0:36:000:36:03

OK, thank you.

0:36:030:36:04

-So get your friend to look after it and prize it...

-I will.

0:36:040:36:07

..even though it is a fake!

0:36:070:36:08

Thank you so much. I appreciate that, thank you.

0:36:080:36:11

It's quite unusual to get Snaffles' subjects,

0:36:130:36:16

er, of the First World War.

0:36:160:36:18

He's particularly well known for hunting subjects.

0:36:180:36:21

So how did you come by it?

0:36:210:36:23

I'm from Ireland and I went to an auction on the border between

0:36:230:36:28

Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland in 1974,

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the day after there had been a bombing,

0:36:320:36:35

and so nobody turned up to the auction except for antique dealers,

0:36:350:36:40

and I was lucky I was able to buy this for £17.

0:36:400:36:43

I think it's very interesting that you were drawn to it

0:36:430:36:46

at a moment of conflict.

0:36:460:36:47

It was conflict that got you the opportunity to buy it.

0:36:470:36:51

That's true, that's absolutely true.

0:36:510:36:52

And, of course, it's all about conflict.

0:36:520:36:55

Here we have the gunners in the First War. Poor souls,

0:36:550:36:58

it must have been an absolutely miserable experience.

0:36:580:37:01

Very miserable, yes.

0:37:010:37:02

And Snaffles, I think, has absolutely captured that,

0:37:020:37:05

-the misery of it all, really.

-Yeah.

0:37:050:37:07

You know, the tragedy of the horse dying at the bottom there,

0:37:070:37:10

the little vignette, this chap checking the hoof here,

0:37:100:37:13

it's a grim day, really, isn't it?

0:37:130:37:16

And he's sort of celebrating the nobility of the horse,

0:37:160:37:20

ears pricked and everything,

0:37:200:37:22

it's just a great evocation of the scene.

0:37:220:37:25

Wonderful, I think, and when you bought it,

0:37:250:37:27

did you think it was a print or a watercolour?

0:37:270:37:30

Actually, when I bought it,

0:37:300:37:31

one of the antique dealers who had been present,

0:37:310:37:34

followed me home and asked me to take it out of the frame,

0:37:340:37:38

and I did, and he examined it and tested the paint

0:37:380:37:43

and he was rather upset he hadn't bought it.

0:37:430:37:46

Well, he had every reason to be upset,

0:37:460:37:48

because you have bought yourself a watercolour by Snaffles

0:37:480:37:51

rather than one of the signed prints.

0:37:510:37:53

And I think it's a fantastic buy.

0:37:530:37:55

I think £17 in '74 was, I'm sure, as much as you were prepared to spend,

0:37:550:38:00

-but nonetheless, it was a jolly good buy.

-Thank you.

0:38:000:38:03

I think this is such an evocative and beautiful scene

0:38:030:38:07

that, you know, it should be worth at least £2,000 to £3,000 today.

0:38:070:38:11

OK, thank you.

0:38:110:38:13

And I think it may be even more, it's a very beautiful picture.

0:38:130:38:15

Thank you.

0:38:150:38:16

Well, looking down at us today

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is one of the pioneers of British aviation, Samuel Cody.

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And we learned in our introduction

0:38:260:38:28

how his pioneering spirit

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helped in introducing aeroplane technology into this country.

0:38:310:38:36

-And I have to say, it looks a little bit like he's come to life.

-Yes.

0:38:360:38:40

Who are you?

0:38:400:38:41

I'm Samuel Franklin John Cody, the great-grandson.

0:38:410:38:45

In fact, you both have a similar look about you.

0:38:450:38:47

-Are you related?

-We're brothers, we're brothers.

0:38:470:38:49

You're brothers. So you're direct descendants of this great man?

0:38:490:38:53

That's right.

0:38:530:38:55

Tell us about him. He was a bit of a showman, wasn't he?

0:38:550:38:57

Yes, he was a cowboy showman that came over from America

0:38:570:39:00

and he was an American citizen

0:39:000:39:02

when he actually flew British Army Aeroplane No 1.

0:39:020:39:04

He designed, built it with his own money.

0:39:040:39:08

£50 was given from the War Office

0:39:080:39:10

and he achieved the first flight in this country.

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He did hops and leaps in April and May of 1908

0:39:130:39:17

and then officially recorded on 16th October 1908,

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the first powered flight in Great Britain.

0:39:210:39:23

Astonishing, isn't it? But he didn't start out flying aircraft.

0:39:230:39:27

-No, no.

-He started out as a Wild West showman, didn't he?

0:39:270:39:30

-That's it, yeah.

-Gunslinging, rope twirling,

0:39:300:39:32

lassoing, that sort of thing.

0:39:320:39:35

Yes, he was great friends with Buffalo Bill, he knew Annie Oakley,

0:39:350:39:38

all the famous people of the time, he toured around with.

0:39:380:39:42

And then he got interested, as a lot of people at that time were,

0:39:420:39:47

in aviation, but it wasn't powered aircraft, was it?

0:39:470:39:50

No, no, it was a kite design he had as a child.

0:39:500:39:53

The child's toy used as a weapon of war,

0:39:530:39:55

where you could get a man into the heavens

0:39:550:39:57

by putting five or six kites up and a bosun's chair underneath.

0:39:570:40:00

So how did he get into powered flight?

0:40:000:40:03

He started to make a kite, a larger kite with an engine in it,

0:40:030:40:07

that flew round on wires, to get the basic principle that it could fly,

0:40:070:40:11

and he thought, "Well, if I scale it up, I can sit in it."

0:40:110:40:15

And you've brought along today,

0:40:150:40:16

this wonderful silver model of an aircraft.

0:40:160:40:19

Yes, this was commissioned by the Shell Oil Company

0:40:190:40:22

in late 1911 for Mappin & Webb to make it,

0:40:220:40:25

and it was presented to Cody

0:40:250:40:27

at the Royal Aero Club dinner in 1912.

0:40:270:40:30

And what's the model of?

0:40:300:40:31

It's one of his late aeroplanes, it was actually a water plane

0:40:310:40:34

and probably the plane that killed him in the end.

0:40:340:40:37

He was killed in an air crash, wasn't he?

0:40:370:40:39

He was killed with his boots on, how a cowboy should die.

0:40:390:40:42

They gave him a full military funeral from his house in Ash Vale

0:40:420:40:45

and 50,000 people lined the funeral procession.

0:40:450:40:48

50,000! That's how important he was.

0:40:480:40:50

Yes, he was a very important person.

0:40:500:40:52

And you've brought along these two incredibly large,

0:40:520:40:56

-and I bet heavy, trophies.

-Yes.

0:40:560:40:58

Now, I recognise these as the Michelin Trophies.

0:40:580:41:00

That's correct, yes.

0:41:000:41:02

Now, the Michelin Trophy was an award given every year

0:41:020:41:05

by Monsieur Michelin for the longest flight,

0:41:050:41:09

longest duration flight, on a circuit.

0:41:090:41:11

-Is that right?

-Yes, that's right, yes.

-Two-and-a-quarter mile circuit.

0:41:110:41:15

These are commissioned by the Michelin Tyre Company

0:41:150:41:18

and there was a series of three of them.

0:41:180:41:20

Cody won 1910 and 1911 and then Tom Sopwith had 1912.

0:41:200:41:26

And they represent Pegasus, the mythical winged horse,

0:41:260:41:31

trying to escape from the gravity of Earth

0:41:310:41:33

-and Mother Earth pulling it down.

-Mother Earth, yes.

0:41:330:41:37

And the aviator climbing aboard.

0:41:370:41:40

-It's real flying, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:41:400:41:42

-They're magnificent objects.

-He was so proud of them,

0:41:420:41:45

-he was going to put them on the gate posts at Ash Vale.

-No!

-Yes.

0:41:450:41:49

THEY LAUGH

0:41:490:41:51

Well, now, let's think about value.

0:41:510:41:54

Because, obviously, these are fairly important historical objects

0:41:540:41:58

from the aviation point of view.

0:41:580:41:59

The silver trophy,

0:42:000:42:03

that, I think, would be worth today...

0:42:030:42:06

£20,000 to £30,000.

0:42:060:42:08

I think the Michelin Trophies EACH would be worth...

0:42:080:42:13

..£25,000 to £30,000.

0:42:160:42:19

They've got to be worth that,

0:42:190:42:21

I mean, they're seriously important items, seriously important items.

0:42:210:42:24

How do you feel about the fact that your great-grandfather

0:42:240:42:28

was a pioneer of aviation?

0:42:280:42:30

-It gives us a lot of pride.

-It gives us a big buzz, a great big buzz,

0:42:300:42:33

because I don't know a man that could

0:42:330:42:35

beat him nowadays, to be honest.

0:42:350:42:36

I get the feeling he was a boy who never grew up, actually.

0:42:360:42:39

-That's right.

-He loved every minute of it.

0:42:390:42:40

MUSIC: Theme from "Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines"

0:42:400:42:44

We've had such a tremendous day here at Farnborough Wind Tunnels,

0:43:000:43:03

and look at this -

0:43:030:43:04

do you remember I showed you all those items associated with

0:43:040:43:07

the aviation industry, and those shipping containers?

0:43:070:43:10

Well, this is out of one of those containers.

0:43:100:43:13

It's a Eurofighter jet uniform

0:43:130:43:15

complete with helmet, leather gloves...

0:43:150:43:18

At least it shouldn't take me long to get home.

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From the Antiques Roadshow, until next time, bye-bye.

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