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On 16th October 1908, Britain's first powered aviator took to | 0:00:04 | 0:00:09 | |
the skies, and this is a recently-made replica of his plane. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
And the aviator's name - Samuel Cody. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
He's the unsung hero of powered flight, and no, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
I hadn't heard of him either. But his is a remarkable story. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
Welcome back to the Antiques Roadshow from the home | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
of aviation - from Farnborough, in Hampshire. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
The astonishing achievements | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
and inventions of British aviation began within sight of this - | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
the original HQ of the Royal Flying Corps in Farnborough. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
The Army's Royal Engineer Balloon School began here in 1905, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
bringing with it the latest in kite and glider designs, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
dirigibles and the first attempts at powered flight. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
By 1908, Samuel F Cody, a flamboyant Wild West showman, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:51 | |
not to be confused with Buffalo Bill Cody, became the first man | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
to successfully achieve sustained powered flight in Britain, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
five years after the Wright Brothers in America. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
Cody's love of photography means we have a great record of him | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
with his first plane, the Army Aeroplane No 1. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
Cody's endeavours aren't generally well known, but the people here | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
at the Farnborough Air Sciences Trust are dedicated to | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
keeping his achievements, and those of the aviation industry, alive. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
They've accumulated a feast of photographs, records | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
and 350,000 other pieces of flight history. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
Everything from 150,000 glass plates, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
designs for missiles and engines, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
to the invention of a material we take for granted today - | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
carbon fibre. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:39 | |
The old Royal Flying Corps HQ | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
has proved just a bit too small | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
for the Trust's rescue efforts. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
They've so much, in fact, they've bought 20 shipping containers - | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
it's a labyrinth of hidden curiosities just waiting | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
to be discovered. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
There's enough here to keep the Roadshow going for years. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Mm, I wonder if there's anything in here I could take to the Roadshow. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
A stone's throw from the museum are the wonderful | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
Heritage-listed Farnborough Wind Tunnels. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
Thanks to a £20 million restoration scheme | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
eight years ago by the company that own the business park surrounding | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
the tunnels, this unique snapshot of our aerospace history will | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
survive and we're able to hold our Roadshow on this iconic site. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:25 | |
So for all intents and purposes, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
it looks like just an ordinary 20th-century pocket watch. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
What do you think of it? | 0:03:34 | 0:03:35 | |
I don't know very much about it at all, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
it was my father's, who got it from his father. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
It came over from Canada along with my father | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
during the Second World War and here it stayed. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
Well, it's interesting that it's come over from Canada, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
because it's actually rather a special watch. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Is it? | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
It might surprise you to know that it's only gold-plated. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
-Mm. -I can tell that, just from its colour, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
but it has a very crisp and easy-to-read dial. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
-It does. -Do you know why that might be? | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
No idea. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:05 | |
OK, well, the instant giveaway is that it says "Ball, Cleveland". | 0:04:05 | 0:04:13 | |
Now that, to collectors of American watches, is a magic name. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:18 | |
The Ball Watch Company never made watches. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
-Right. -But they commissioned other people to make watches, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
and this is actually made by a factory called Hamilton. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Now, a guy called Webb Ball was put as, if you like, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
the official timekeeper of all the American railroads. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
Oh! | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
And some time in the 1890s, there was a major rail crash which was | 0:04:37 | 0:04:44 | |
put down to a dodgy timekeeper, so he was effectively | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
commissioned to get the whole thing working properly to the minute, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
so there were no longer collisions taking place. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
The thing I can see immediately on the front of that dial is, | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
underneath Ball, it says "Official RR Standard". | 0:05:00 | 0:05:06 | |
Official railroad standard. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
Have you ever opened the back? | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
-Yes. -You have? -Yes. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
-Did you think it was pretty or not? -I did. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
It's a screw back, as all these things are, and a lovely | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
damascene nickel movement, and there it is, you've got the whole thing. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:25 | |
Ball tells you everything, it's a cracking good object. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
Now, you said that your great...your grandfather.... | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
-Grandfather. -..had come from Canada, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
and there we are, that is a Canadian gold-plated case. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
Lovely. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:43 | |
And it makes sense, because Ball was also in charge of the railways | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
in Mexico and in Canada, so this would have been made | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
almost certainly for use on the Canadian railways. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
The date of this is typically 1930, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
so he would have got it before he came over. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
As you probably have noticed - how on earth do you set the hands? | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
-I know. -Have you discovered that? -No. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
OK, well, that is - if you were a railway employee, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
-you couldn't mess around with the hands. -Ah. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
If that was in your pocket, you couldn't pull the stem winder | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
out and accidentally go backwards and cause another major | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
derailment, so you had to undo the front bezel, OK, and then at | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
the one o'clock position is a little lever, and then you can then move | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
the hands, so that stopped it being fiddled around with accidentally. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
Ingenious. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
It's a lovely thing. Railroad quality, very important. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
Now, if it had been by Howard instead of Hamilton, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
although retailed by Ball, Howards are many thousands of pounds. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
But here we are, this is a gold plated watch, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
still going to make you over £1,000 at auction. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
Is it really? Wow. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
I've seen a lot of Minton majolica over the years and just | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
when I think, "Well, there can't be many more surprises left," | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
you produce a piece that I've never seen before. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
-Really? -That's right. Tell me about it. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
Well, it came from my grandmother's. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
I remember it on her sideboard when I was a little girl | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
and my mother inherited it and it's come to me, right down. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
It's a family piece all the way through. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
That's right, yes. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
Because there's another little surprise inside, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
-because when we look... -Yes. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
There is one bird looking out through the flute | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
-and his friend sitting on the top. -Yes. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
So what do you use it for, in the family? | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
It's just an ornament, it sits in the glass cabinet. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
How strange! | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
Minton were very helpful to us all, they put so clear marks | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
-and told us all about it. -Yes. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
-So you've seen, I think, the clear marks there. -Yes. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
We've got the name of the factory, Minton, clearly stamped, a mould | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
number, and that rather big shape in the middle is the year code. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
-Yes. -And that's the symbol for 1871. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
-Oh, right, that's very... -It's quite old. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
It's quite old, yes. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
Now here, the majolica is combined with painting, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
they've enamelled the bird on the top. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
-What bird is that? -I don't know. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
I don't think they saw one of those in Stoke-on-Trent! | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
So it's quite a rare thing. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
Right. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:21 | |
And that's good in majolica, because with Minton, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
some models we see again and again and they're quite popular. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
When you get something rare by the top makers of majolica | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
like Minton, that's quite a bit of money. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
I can see it 4,000, 5,000. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
No! | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
6,000... | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
Do you want me to fall over? | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
Not on top of the bird! I've never seen another one. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
I don't believe that. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
Well, it's a wooden column, doesn't look particularly exciting. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
What did you used to think it was? | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
Previously we thought it was a epidiascope. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
My grandmother, my father's mother, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
she used it as basically a bedside table. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
Do you know, it would make a mighty fine bedside table, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
it's the right sort of height, right sort of dimensions. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
Well, it is much more than a bedside table | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
-with knobs on, isn't it? -Absolutely. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
Because this is a stereo viewer, and because these photographs were taken | 0:09:21 | 0:09:28 | |
with lenses that were as far apart as your eyes, it means that when you | 0:09:28 | 0:09:35 | |
put these photographs into a viewer, look through the lenses, your brain | 0:09:35 | 0:09:41 | |
re-jigs the images and recreates the three-dimensional image. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
Now, to all of us 21st-century people, we're saying, "Oh, yeah, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
"and what's so exciting about that?" | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
But just imagine in the 1840s when this type of image was | 0:09:53 | 0:10:00 | |
first seen, it was revolutionary, it was Star Wars, it was the future. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
It was impossible and it became an absolute craze. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:11 | |
And the viewers came in all sorts of shapes and sizes. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
Now, how much have you been able to find out about this particular one? | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
Not a huge amount. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
I mean, I know it was my great-great-grandfather's, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
so he was an amateur keen photographer | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
so these are his photos from a Grand Tour that he did back in... | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
Yes, I would think probably round about 1905-1910. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
And this is absolutely what you would find in a conventional | 0:10:34 | 0:10:40 | |
Victorian collection of stereo photographs. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
The one thing I would say is that | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
I don't think your great-great grandfather took them. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
Have a look on the back. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
These were commercially produced and you could buy them | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
as souvenirs and then you've got wonderful ones relating to the | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
Royal Family, you've got Balmoral and Osborne in the Isle of Wight, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
so you can see this is a very rounded Victorian collection. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
Before we open it up, what I'd like to do is to enjoy the object. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
This fabulous burr walnut veneer here with the engraved brass | 0:11:13 | 0:11:19 | |
strap work. I mean, it really is a top-of-the-range model | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
and if I open the top, here and here, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
this actually shines the light down onto what is inside which is a sort | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
of roll of stereoscopic photographs, which you can load up yourself, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:37 | |
and then you turn these knobs and you get the next one coming up. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
But this is a special one | 0:11:42 | 0:11:43 | |
because you've got a viewer on each side, and that's called | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
a sweetheart viewer, because I think the idea was... And do excuse me, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:53 | |
but if you'd like to line up. In fact, I should do it with your dad. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
-OK. -OK. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
OK, so, you know, the idea is that you'd be looking like this | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
and then every so often you'd be... | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
"Hello!" Exactly, this was | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
the sweetheart viewer, you see, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
so you would depart to one corner of the drawing room, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
everybody would ignore you because you were just looking at | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
the 3D photographs but, in fact, all kinds of flirtations were going on. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
What a thought! | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
Well, I think the object itself, the actual viewer, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
has a finite value, I mean, that is going to be £400-£500, but there | 0:12:24 | 0:12:31 | |
is also a significant additional value through the cards themselves. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:37 | |
So I would say that the whole collection - the cards | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
and the viewer - I would put it at between perhaps £800 and £1,000. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
OK. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:45 | |
So it is a table-top stereoscopic viewer and not an epidiascope. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
Yes. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
-Lovely to have that finally clarified. -Yeah, thank you. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
-Thanks so much, thank you. -Thank you. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
So how long have you had this chair? | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
I've known the chair in my family since 1945 and then it was | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
handed down from my grandparents to my parents and then on to me. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
And when you look at it, does it say anything to you? | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
It tells me a story that it's very, very old. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
Such as what? | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
That it goes back to at least 1666. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
So we think of 1666 | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
as the Great Fire of London in the walled | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
City of London, that's when the Great Fire started, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
and there it is carved in the back of this chair. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
Yes. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:31 | |
This particular chair is known as a wainscot chair. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
Right. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
That's a high-backed chair with a panelled back, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
but what we have to ask ourselves, is the chair of the period? | 0:13:37 | 0:13:43 | |
I have had a good look at it and when I look at the back, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
the back is absolutely fabulous. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Then I saw the date 1666 and thought, "Wow!" | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
Yes. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
But when I got more into it, I think what you'll find is, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
it's old elements. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:58 | |
-Yes. -You've got... The front rails are old. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:05 | |
The back unfortunately has been re-carved at a later date. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
If this was the date it's purporting to be, this would be a museum piece. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:13 | |
-Right. -It would be worth £15,000-£20,000 if it was right. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:19 | |
-Right. -But unfortunately, it isn't, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
so hopefully I'm letting you down gently. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
-Yes. -It's a nice family piece, it holds good colour. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
Today, as a decorative piece, it's worth about £300 or £400, but as | 0:14:28 | 0:14:34 | |
I say, at first I thought, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
"Wow, this is one of the most important finds | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
"we've found dating from the Great Fire of London on the Roadshow." | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
It's not quite there. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
I must say it's really unusual to have somebody of your age | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
with a coin collection like this. Where did you get them from? | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Well, we were tidying out my nanny's garage and under lots | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
of piles of rubbish, we found some old cigar boxes full of these coins. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:02 | |
They were my great-grandad's. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:03 | |
Oh, really? | 0:15:03 | 0:15:04 | |
I mean, it really is an extensive collection of coins | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
and I get quite excited when I see a collection like this. I mean, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
really, you've got the history of coins in a few albums. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
You've got some very early staters and Roman coins | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
and Greek coins, you've got Dionysus here in silver, and that | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
one's about 150 BC, you know, when you think 150 years before Jesus. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
-I mean, it's staggering. -Whereabouts would that be from? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
This one is Greece, then you've got a Swedish coin here which is 1670. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:37 | |
That's not a particularly rare coin but the condition again is lovely. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
But then you go to my favourite coin by a long shot, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
is this Alexander III Macedonia, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
300 BC. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:51 | |
Wow. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
You know, it's staggering, you know. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
And do you love them as a collection, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:56 | |
have you researched them or...? | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
Well, we tried to research them | 0:15:58 | 0:15:59 | |
but we couldn't really find much about them, yeah. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
Yeah, I mean, this would take you three or four months to go | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
through all of these and catalogue them, and it will take... | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
There are so many variations and all that sort of thing. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
But they're staggering and exciting to see. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
I can see this is going to be a lifelong hobby for you, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
but I'd really recommend getting some good reference books, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
going to the British Museum. There's great books | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
like Coins Of The World, you know. Really do your research because | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
this will set you up in good stead, they're such a good investment. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
Coins, even in these tough times, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
have been really going up in price. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
Is there any particular that you like? | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
Um, this one here is my favourite. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
I can see why, but that's actually a medallion, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
that's a religious medallion, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
but probably Gdansk or German area, 1650, not really worth a great deal. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:50 | |
Pretty nice condition, when you think of something of 1650, when you | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
compare it in age to something two-and-a-half...or 2,000 years old, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
they were making as good a coinage then, as they were in 1650. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
What would that have been given out for, then? | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
This is to commemorate a baptism, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
and they were really worn under the shirt as a symbol | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
of your devotion to religion and protection, all that sort of stuff. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
I mean, you've got Yahweh - the name of Jehovah - at the top there, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
and then a baptism scene. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
That one is worth about £80 to a collector | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
because they're not that rare. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
I would say you've got a few pounds on some of these, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
you've got £10 or £20 on some of these. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
You've got £200 to £300 on that one | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
and you've got about 15 of those. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
-Have we? -You've got... This one, I would say, is about £400. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
I need to spend a bit more time working out the prices, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
but overall here I think you've probably... | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
OK, let's work it out a different way. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
How much pocket money do you get a week? | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
I get about £2. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:48 | |
OK, well, Dad you don't need to give him | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
-any more pocket money for a while. -That's good to know. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
Because I think you've got about £4,000, maybe £5,000 worth here. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
-Wow. -Brilliant. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
-Thank you very much. -A pleasure. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
Do you read Russian? | 0:18:04 | 0:18:05 | |
No. Not apart from that bit on there. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
I don't read Russian, but even I can tell what that says. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
It's just saying Moscow 1881. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
1881. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:14 | |
I mean, this caught my eye for that reason, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
and what you've brought me is this really huge album, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
which seems to be full of highly coloured pictures of Moscow. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
Yeah. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:25 | |
Obviously in 1881, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
well before the Russian Revolution, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:28 | |
and when I say highly coloured, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
I mean really highly coloured. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
This image here, this must be St Basil's Cathedral. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
It obviously was once a photograph. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
You can see down at the bottom here. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
Just at the bottom, yes. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:41 | |
It's been very carefully finished with some kind of watercolour, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
to bring the colour up to something really quite spectacular. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
But what I also like about this album is that, yes, it contains | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
these amazingly iconic images of Moscow that we all know about. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
-Yeah. -But a couple of them are really much more homely, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
and, to me, almost more interesting. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
This particular one caught my eye. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
It's a street scene, isn't it? | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Yeah, just an ordinary scene, could be from the Wild West virtually, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
before motorised cars, because you've only got horses and that. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
I mean, just in that one picture, I feel that I've got | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
an insight into what it was like to live in pre-revolutionary Russia. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
-Could be, yes. -It's a very colourful scene, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
I'm sure it wasn't always that colourful. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
No, probably not, probably not. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
Tell me about it, where did you get it from? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
It's been following me round for about... I don't know, 50 years. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
I don't know whether I found it or whether it was given to me, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
I just cannot remember. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
About the only family heirloom I've got. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
Well, it's something that really does have quite a strong interest, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
particularly for historians. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:46 | |
-Yes. -And it's just the kind of thing that Russian buyers are very | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
interested in acquiring. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:52 | |
This is the kind of album that some people would very | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
dearly like to see brought back and taken back into Russia. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Brought back to Russia. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
-It's certainly got some value. -Oh, right. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
-It's got some problems with condition. -Well, yes. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
Some of the pages are loose, but that can be repaired. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
Yes. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
I think this would very easily make £3,000-4,000. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
You're joking! | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
Oh, right, OK, she might get a new kitchen after all, then! | 0:20:13 | 0:20:19 | |
Well, two completely different objects, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
but actually they've got something in common, haven't they? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
What have you brought along? | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
I've brought a mammoth tooth that my father dug up in the garden. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
And the bowl. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:34 | |
I've brought along a marble bowl which | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
I found at the end of my garden when I moved into a new house. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
I mean, quite extraordinary objects to find. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
I mean, the mammoth tooth, fossilised mammoth tooth, it doesn't | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
look much from the top, but it is absolutely beautiful, isn't it? | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
And sometimes this is | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
sliced and then used | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
and set into the top of a box | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
and it looks almost like an agate, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
I mean, it's really quite a beautiful material. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
This is made of onyx and the onyx is probably from Italy. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
But I think that the bowl would have been imported in the plain form, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
and then these gilt metal mounts in the Gothic style have been | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
applied to it, and these absolutely lovely little pietra dura, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
or hard stone, roundels have been set into them, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
and they almost certainly would have been made in Derbyshire. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
So the bowl has been assembled and created, if you like, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
in Derbyshire around 1870, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
so some time after the mammoth was walking on the Earth. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
How do you feel about this tooth? | 0:21:39 | 0:21:40 | |
Well, I love it and I've had it all my life. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
I would save it if the house was burning down. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
-First thing you'd save? -No, after my husband and my son. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
OK, get your priorities right. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:51 | |
Good. And how do you feel about your find? | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Well, I like it very much. Unfortunately, my husband doesn't, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
he told me to take it to a charity shop. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
OK, well, the next question is value. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
The value of this bowl is in the region of £200. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
Gosh! | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
So the question is, is the mammoth tooth more or less? | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
And it's more, at about £1,000. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
-Wow. -That is actually... Wow. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
I think they are both extraordinary finds | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
to just be, you know, in your garden. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
I mean, who knows what else lies out there? | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
The perfect accessory for a dapper chap in tweeds, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
-but this is not what it seems to be. -Absolutely not. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
This is a stick gun, or sometimes known as a poacher's gun, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
which came into my family's possession just after the war. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
It came from an estate | 0:22:43 | 0:22:44 | |
next door to the RAF station that my father was commanding, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
and they used to go and shoot on the estate | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
until, sadly, the lord of the manor died, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
and his widow was left with a collection of guns, including this. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
She didn't know what to do with them, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:57 | |
but thought, "Let's sign them over to the squadron." | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
So my father appropriately signed to receive them | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
-into the squadron armoury. -Right. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
And then the station moved on, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
and then two years later when the squadron moved, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
the armourer came to my father | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
and said, "Your guns are still in the store, sir," | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
and he said, "No, I signed for the squadron." | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
"No, sir, we have 303 rifles in here and this is a shotgun | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
"and more to the point, YOU signed for it." | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
If you've signed for it, it's yours. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
"It's yours," so my father inherited this, and another gun as well, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
but this is the novelty. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:27 | |
It's made in Birmingham. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
I can't see a maker's name on it, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
but that's not particularly relevant. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
A lot of them were made with no name. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
Everybody refers to them as poachers' guns. They weren't. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
A poacher couldn't afford this, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
this is quite an expensive piece of kit, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
this is sterling silver, but a gentleman... | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
And this is late... | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
Well, this is about 1890-odd, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
but prior to that - and they were made prior to that - | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
Victorian collectors, who would collect anything | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
including wild birds... It was very handy to have this by your side | 0:24:00 | 0:24:05 | |
and if some little creature that you didn't know what it was, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
poked its head out of the hedge, you could just bring it up and pop it. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
Bang. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
And would have these been fairly common as a gun? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
Yes, you see quite a lot of them, they're very collectable. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
This is on your shotgun certificate, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
as they have to be, as it's a working weapon, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
and you actually have to have a collector's status | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
to have it on your certificate, which you obviously have. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
-I have, yes. -Have you ever thought about values? | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
I thought it must have been worth maybe a couple of hundred pounds, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
because it doesn't look in very good condition | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
and it's not a very elaborate piece, but is that so, or more? | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
You're pretty well... | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
I would put perhaps another 100, sort of £200-£300, but, yes, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
condition-wise, it's a bit sad, but then again, given its age, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
that's what you expect, so a very, very nice piece. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
-Good, thanks very much, that's kind of you. -You're welcome. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
Do you not think you could be forgiven | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
-for assuming that this is a bit of costume jewellery? -Yes. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
In fact, what do you think it is? | 0:25:03 | 0:25:04 | |
-Do you think it is costume jewellery? -We weren't at all sure. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
-No. -So we thought it might be worth nothing, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
or it might be something really quite special. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Because it's colourful, but it looks pretty tatty, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
but there's something about it | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
that I think is worth mentioning to you, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
because it's not costume jewellery. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
How old do you think it might be? | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
19th century? | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
At best. No, it's actually 17th century. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
-Really? -Yeah. I think it was made in around about 1650. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
-That's lovely. -Mm. Where did it come from? | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
An aunt, who came out of Austria in her 30s, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
but she did stay in Belgium, we think, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
as a companion for a few years just before that. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
So might it be one of those pieces that someone says, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
"Thank you very much, you've looked after me..." | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
-Could be. -"..and here's a piece of jewellery as thanks," | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
of which it then sprinkles through to you? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
It is enamelled, it's not metal. It's gold, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
in fact - dare I say? - quite high carat gold. North European. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
It's difficult to be exact which country it comes from, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
-but I tend to think more sort of, I don't know, Flemish. -OK. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
Possibly Dutch, that sort of thing. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
At the bottom here, we have suspended... | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
three natural drop pearls, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
and they're very, very distressed, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
so it's been through the wars, this piece, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
it's hardly in perfect condition. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
It's suspended from three | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
tiers of gold chain | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
and in the centre we have | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
a little sort of miniature, I suppose, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
and it's what we call a religious reliquary pendant. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
So it's 17th century, North European, reliquary pendant. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
What shall we say? | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
No idea. | 0:26:58 | 0:26:59 | |
£1,000 to £1,500. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
Right, very nice, thank you. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
Here on the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
many, many people bring in their photograph albums, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
and in the majority of cases, they're interesting to the family, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
but to anybody else, they're of little interest | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
and therefore little value. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:21 | |
What's taken me with this collection is not only the age of these, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
because they all date from the 1850s, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
but some of the compositions, which I think are absolutely enchanting. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:33 | |
As an example, is these two gentlemen sitting, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
playing chess together, their hats discarded on the ground. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
Who are they? | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
Well, that's my great-grandfather's older brother | 0:27:42 | 0:27:47 | |
and that's his middle brother. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
And do we know who was taking the photograph? | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
Well, I can only assume it was my great-grandfather | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
that took that particular one, but they all took turns... | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
-So all three of them were photographers? -I think so, yes. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
Cos that's amazing. And this dates from round about...? | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
I think it's 1857, or that sort of era. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
Because in those very early days, a lot of photographs were portraits | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
and there wasn't anybody like a professional photographer. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
And then we go further into the album, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
-and again, here we are, family group. -Yeah. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
Wigwam in the garden, they're smiling, having a nice time, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
those sort of portraits you really never ever see. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
And here are some more family portraits | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
and the family name, obviously - Ellen Rayne | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
and William T Rayne. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
Yeah, that's my great-grandfather. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
-And a young man, wasn't he? -He was, yes. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:37 | |
And he was taking photographs probably in his early 20s. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
I think, well, possibly before that, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
I think maybe he was a teenager when he started. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
And there he is again, a sort of Beatles-looking cap on, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
and further down, a family portrait, a double one this time, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:55 | |
and what I particularly like about these two is | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
here is a sort of formal tea party, it looks like, out in the garden, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
and then down below, here are the farm workers. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
Because again, you know, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
taking photographs of the locality was not very popular. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
They took photographs of each other, but look, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
they've taken some enchanting photographs of these three guys | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
-and two girls, and they've got their hobnail boots on. -Hobnail, yes. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
So, again, very rare to see this type of social history. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
So what was their history? | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
Did they travel at all or did they stay here in the UK? | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
In about 1860, I think, the elder brother went off to India as a... | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
-To India? -Yeah, he was a railway engineer. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
So another album, and where is this? | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
-That's Gloucester. -And you can see | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
this cart that looks as though... | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
-Yes. -..it's in trouble. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:44 | |
-Some chap standing in the road and sort of... -Like a ghost. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
Like a ghost, yeah, and there's a chap climbing out the window there. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
-HE LAUGHS -Oh, yeah! So early. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
I mean, you just don't see images this early | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
and these are obviously of Indian ladies | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
relaxing on their carpet there. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
And these family groups. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:03 | |
Well, I think a really important archive because it's so early. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:10 | |
I think the family were hugely talented, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
and to a collector, ooh, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
I think we're talking about an archive like that, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
should you ever decide to sell it, which I'm sure you won't, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
I think you'd be talking about | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
certainly between £6,000 and £10,000. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
Well, that's nice to know. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
But, as you say, we won't be selling them. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
-We all love a really good film. -Yes. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
-And looking around here, I can see real Hollywood nobility. -Yes. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
What's your connection with this? | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
Well, my father was in the film business, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
he was a director of photography. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
His name was Jack Hildyard. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
And what were his famous films? | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
He worked on Bridge On The River Kwai, he won an Oscar for that. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:52 | |
And these films, Antony And Cleopatra, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
he worked with Elizabeth Taylor. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:56 | |
Millionairess, he worked with Sophia Loren, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
and he worked with some of the actresses | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
that gave him some of these gifts, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:02 | |
just in appreciation, really, for making them look good. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:07 | |
-Of course, he was very important. -He was, he was. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
-They wanted to look their best. -Yes. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:12 | |
-So obviously, Sophia Loren looking gorgeous. -Yes. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:17 | |
-And your father behind. -Yes. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
So what is this one? | 0:31:19 | 0:31:20 | |
This was a goblet that was given to me | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
on my christening by Katharine Hepburn. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
He worked on a film with her once, called Summer Madness, in Venice, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
and she gave this to me, out of appreciation of him, really. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
-And there's an inscription on the bottom. -Yes. It says, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
"Janine Elizabeth Hildyard," which is me, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
"from her father's admirer, Katharine Hepburn," and then, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
"Suddenly Last Summer," and, "Summer Madness, 1959," | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
-which are the films they worked on. -Fabulous. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
And so all these other things - we've got... | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
That was given to him by Deborah Kerr. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
I'm not sure which film that was. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
This is Laurence Olivier. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:56 | |
Laurence Olivier, he was... That was the film called Henry V. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
Very famous film of Laurence Olivier, so that's dedicated to him. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
-Yes. -And these...? | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
These are from Elizabeth Taylor, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:06 | |
he worked with her on a film called Antony And Cleopatra. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
-Which was one of her great films. -Yes. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
So, fantastic provenance, and this one? | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
And this a watch that was given to him by Sophia Loren | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
and it's got just, "Love from Sophia," | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
just written in biro on the inside, so you know. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
But it's fabulous having all those with such provenance, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
and, of course, that's the most important thing with these, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
especially for you. You need to write it down | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
because, of course, a lot of the value of these | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
depends on the absolute provenance, which, of course, you've got. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
Was your grandad working when you came along? | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
He wasn't by that stage, no, but I know that the cup that Mum | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
was given by Katharine Hepburn is now why my name is Katharine, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
so something like that is really special. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
Absolutely, and a lovely family heirloom. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
Yeah, definitely, it's really exciting. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
And was his favourite Katharine Hepburn? | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
I think possibly, yes. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
I think you can see from the message on the bottom of the cup, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
that she had a bit of a soft spot for him. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
-Oh, well, we won't go into that, will we? -Perhaps not! | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
And, actually, the values can be quite surprising too. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
I think your little christening mug, that could be | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
-at least £1,000. -Right. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
And I think Deborah Kerr, maybe £500, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
-and Laurence Olivier, about £500. -Right. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
The watch is quite interesting, it's a Universal watch, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
which is quite a good make, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
-it's 18 carat gold, but it's not a stunning watch. -No. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
-But even so, the watch itself is worth about £500. -Right. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
Of course, the real jewel in the crown, as we all know, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
-is Elizabeth Taylor. -Right. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
Because, I mean, her jewellery's just sold and, you know, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
-she is an iconic film actress. -Yes. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
And this lovely inscription and these birds of prey, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
I could certainly see these going for £1,000, if not more. | 0:33:55 | 0:34:01 | |
But, you know, we're looking at well over £3,000. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
-Right, wow. -I mean... | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
-Yes, it's amazing, yes, thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
What a lovely bowl! How long have you had it? | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
Thank you. It's not mine, actually, it's a friend's. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
I'm here on her behalf. It was given to her as a present. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
She was looking after an elderly lady for a few years | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
and she was allowed to choose an item | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
and that was the item she chose. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
It's lovely, isn't it? It is very, very beautiful. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
It's in the style of the Japanese Kakiemon. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
Oh, right, OK. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
Now, if it had been a genuine Japanese Kakiemon bowl | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
of the 17th century, we're looking at something like | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
-about £10,000 to £20,000. -Goodness me! | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
-But it ain't! -It's not. -No, no. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
A note on the back here. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
Someone has made an attempt at dating and describing it. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
It says Worcester, made by Flight's factory in the 18th century, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:05 | |
-but that's wrong, as well. -Is it? Oh, OK. That's interesting. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:11 | |
Now, this pattern, Japanese Kakiemon, was copied by everybody | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
and was certainly copied by Worcester, copied by Meissen, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
-copied by everybody. -Oh, OK. -They loved the design. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
It's a beautiful, beautiful design, isn't it? | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
-It is gorgeous, yes. -It really is gorgeous. -OK. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
It actually, because of its glaze, is a very, very blued glaze | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
-and the foot ring is rather small... -OK. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
..which indicates to me that it's made by | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
a firm in Paris called Samson. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
-Samson. -And it's an actual fake or a repro. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:46 | |
-Oh, no! -Made in the 19th century. -Oh, dear! | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
And, unfortunately, instead of being worth £20,000... | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
Oh, what a nightmare! | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
..it's actually worth about £150 to £200. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
Oh, OK, never mind. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:58 | |
But it's still a lovely bowl, isn't it, really? | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
-It is beautiful, yes. -But a great, great piece. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
OK, thank you. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:04 | |
-So get your friend to look after it and prize it... -I will. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
..even though it is a fake! | 0:36:07 | 0:36:08 | |
Thank you so much. I appreciate that, thank you. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
It's quite unusual to get Snaffles' subjects, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
er, of the First World War. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
He's particularly well known for hunting subjects. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
So how did you come by it? | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
I'm from Ireland and I went to an auction on the border between | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland in 1974, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
the day after there had been a bombing, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
and so nobody turned up to the auction except for antique dealers, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
and I was lucky I was able to buy this for £17. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
I think it's very interesting that you were drawn to it | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
at a moment of conflict. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:47 | |
It was conflict that got you the opportunity to buy it. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
That's true, that's absolutely true. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:52 | |
And, of course, it's all about conflict. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
Here we have the gunners in the First War. Poor souls, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
it must have been an absolutely miserable experience. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Very miserable, yes. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:02 | |
And Snaffles, I think, has absolutely captured that, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
-the misery of it all, really. -Yeah. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
You know, the tragedy of the horse dying at the bottom there, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
the little vignette, this chap checking the hoof here, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
it's a grim day, really, isn't it? | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
And he's sort of celebrating the nobility of the horse, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
ears pricked and everything, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
it's just a great evocation of the scene. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Wonderful, I think, and when you bought it, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
did you think it was a print or a watercolour? | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
Actually, when I bought it, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:31 | |
one of the antique dealers who had been present, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
followed me home and asked me to take it out of the frame, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
and I did, and he examined it and tested the paint | 0:37:38 | 0:37:43 | |
and he was rather upset he hadn't bought it. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
Well, he had every reason to be upset, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
because you have bought yourself a watercolour by Snaffles | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
rather than one of the signed prints. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
And I think it's a fantastic buy. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
I think £17 in '74 was, I'm sure, as much as you were prepared to spend, | 0:37:55 | 0:38:00 | |
-but nonetheless, it was a jolly good buy. -Thank you. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
I think this is such an evocative and beautiful scene | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
that, you know, it should be worth at least £2,000 to £3,000 today. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
OK, thank you. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
And I think it may be even more, it's a very beautiful picture. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
Thank you. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:16 | |
Well, looking down at us today | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
is one of the pioneers of British aviation, Samuel Cody. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
And we learned in our introduction | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
how his pioneering spirit | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
helped in introducing aeroplane technology into this country. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:36 | |
-And I have to say, it looks a little bit like he's come to life. -Yes. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
Who are you? | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
I'm Samuel Franklin John Cody, the great-grandson. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
In fact, you both have a similar look about you. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
-Are you related? -We're brothers, we're brothers. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
You're brothers. So you're direct descendants of this great man? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
That's right. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
Tell us about him. He was a bit of a showman, wasn't he? | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
Yes, he was a cowboy showman that came over from America | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
and he was an American citizen | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
when he actually flew British Army Aeroplane No 1. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
He designed, built it with his own money. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
£50 was given from the War Office | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
and he achieved the first flight in this country. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
He did hops and leaps in April and May of 1908 | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
and then officially recorded on 16th October 1908, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
the first powered flight in Great Britain. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
Astonishing, isn't it? But he didn't start out flying aircraft. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
-No, no. -He started out as a Wild West showman, didn't he? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
-That's it, yeah. -Gunslinging, rope twirling, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
lassoing, that sort of thing. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
Yes, he was great friends with Buffalo Bill, he knew Annie Oakley, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
all the famous people of the time, he toured around with. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
And then he got interested, as a lot of people at that time were, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:47 | |
in aviation, but it wasn't powered aircraft, was it? | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
No, no, it was a kite design he had as a child. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
The child's toy used as a weapon of war, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
where you could get a man into the heavens | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
by putting five or six kites up and a bosun's chair underneath. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
So how did he get into powered flight? | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
He started to make a kite, a larger kite with an engine in it, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
that flew round on wires, to get the basic principle that it could fly, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
and he thought, "Well, if I scale it up, I can sit in it." | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
And you've brought along today, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:16 | |
this wonderful silver model of an aircraft. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
Yes, this was commissioned by the Shell Oil Company | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
in late 1911 for Mappin & Webb to make it, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
and it was presented to Cody | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
at the Royal Aero Club dinner in 1912. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
And what's the model of? | 0:40:30 | 0:40:31 | |
It's one of his late aeroplanes, it was actually a water plane | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
and probably the plane that killed him in the end. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
He was killed in an air crash, wasn't he? | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
He was killed with his boots on, how a cowboy should die. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
They gave him a full military funeral from his house in Ash Vale | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
and 50,000 people lined the funeral procession. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
50,000! That's how important he was. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
Yes, he was a very important person. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
And you've brought along these two incredibly large, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
-and I bet heavy, trophies. -Yes. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
Now, I recognise these as the Michelin Trophies. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
That's correct, yes. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
Now, the Michelin Trophy was an award given every year | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
by Monsieur Michelin for the longest flight, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
longest duration flight, on a circuit. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
-Is that right? -Yes, that's right, yes. -Two-and-a-quarter mile circuit. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
These are commissioned by the Michelin Tyre Company | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
and there was a series of three of them. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
Cody won 1910 and 1911 and then Tom Sopwith had 1912. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:26 | |
And they represent Pegasus, the mythical winged horse, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:31 | |
trying to escape from the gravity of Earth | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
-and Mother Earth pulling it down. -Mother Earth, yes. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
And the aviator climbing aboard. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
-It's real flying, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
-They're magnificent objects. -He was so proud of them, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
-he was going to put them on the gate posts at Ash Vale. -No! -Yes. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
Well, now, let's think about value. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
Because, obviously, these are fairly important historical objects | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
from the aviation point of view. | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
The silver trophy, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
that, I think, would be worth today... | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
£20,000 to £30,000. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
I think the Michelin Trophies EACH would be worth... | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
..£25,000 to £30,000. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
They've got to be worth that, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
I mean, they're seriously important items, seriously important items. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
How do you feel about the fact that your great-grandfather | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
was a pioneer of aviation? | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
-It gives us a lot of pride. -It gives us a big buzz, a great big buzz, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
because I don't know a man that could | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
beat him nowadays, to be honest. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:36 | |
I get the feeling he was a boy who never grew up, actually. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
-That's right. -He loved every minute of it. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:40 | |
MUSIC: Theme from "Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines" | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
We've had such a tremendous day here at Farnborough Wind Tunnels, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
and look at this - | 0:43:03 | 0:43:04 | |
do you remember I showed you all those items associated with | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
the aviation industry, and those shipping containers? | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
Well, this is out of one of those containers. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
It's a Eurofighter jet uniform | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
complete with helmet, leather gloves... | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
At least it shouldn't take me long to get home. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
From the Antiques Roadshow, until next time, bye-bye. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
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