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Today, the Antiques Roadshow comes from an Art Deco treasure

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of a building, with a unique history of learning, secrecy and Hollywood.

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Welcome to the nerve centre of the University of London - Senate House.

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In 1933, construction of this neoclassical colossus

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began in Bloomsbury.

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The radical design was the brainchild

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of architect Charles Holden, seen here on the right.

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It was to be a bold, modernist statement.

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Holden's attention to detail was absolute.

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Even the drainpipes are little crafted artworks in their own right.

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As well as an elegant site of learning,

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this building has a rather sinister connection.

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During the Second World War, the Government used it

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as their Ministry of Information,

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and the wife of a certain George Orwell worked here.

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And he used her experiences as the basis

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for the Ministry of Truth in his iconic novel 1984.

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And he wrote, "The Ministry of Truth, Minitrue in Newspeak,

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"was startlingly different from any other object in sight.

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"It was an enormous, pyramidal structure

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"of glittering, white concrete, soaring up, terrace after terrace,

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"300 metres into the air."

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As befits a Senate House, this is the Senate room,

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where the Vice-Chancellor would address the great and the good

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and the finest academics of the day.

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But this place apparently had another admirer,

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none other than Adolf Hitler, who wanted to use it as his HQ,

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if he'd succeeded in invading Britain.

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When it comes to firsts, Senate House can claim several.

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It was London's first skyscraper,

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and it was the first university in Britain

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to admit women to its degree programmes.

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The panoramic view from the top of Senate House has made it popular

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with film directors. Batman Begins, Nanny McPhee,

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The Day Of The Triffids, all made use of this sky-rise location.

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Today, our own directors and camera crews are hard at work

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with our experts, in several of the principal rooms

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down on the ground floor and the first floor.

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Lights, camera, action!

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"A peep into fairyland.

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"Admission 2p, children 1p."

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Shall we do that - peep into fairyland?

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SHE GASPS

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I mean, that is absolutely amazing.

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What we're looking at is this extraordinary diorama

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of painted scenery,

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little creatures, elves, rabbits.

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How did it come to you?

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Well, our grandparents, who lived in Bromley,

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lived next door to a lovely, elderly gentleman

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who they became good friends with.

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And then, through that friendship,

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they became friends with his sisters.

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When we were young, when we were children,

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we used to go round there for afternoon tea in their garden

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and it's just one particular time we went,

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we were taken through to a room and we were shown this, as children,

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which was just the most magical moment ever.

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And then it was what - inherited by you or to the family?

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Yeah, it was inherited to my grandparents

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-and then my mum and then it was inherited to us.

-So, there are

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probably about another 15 to 16 of these hangings.

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And they're all designed so when you look through it,

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you get more and more of a 3D effect.

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That very back painting also gives an illusion of further depth.

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As a kid, it was just magical.

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It still has that amazing effect now.

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Let's just talk about fairies a bit

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in the early part of the 20th century.

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There was this great sort of upsurge in fairies

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and the depiction of fairies. It was a form of escapism.

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It took you away from reality, took you away from industrialisation,

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it took you away from the First World War,

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all those horrible things, you could escape into this fairyland.

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But let's think about who these little old ladies were.

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Because there's a clue.

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And, on one of the pieces of scenery,

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what have we got here?

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Well, actually, what we've got

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is part of a really fine, botanical painting,

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signed down here by somebody called Lilian Snelling.

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And one of your little old ladies was in fact

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perhaps the greatest horticultural, botanical artist of her time.

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-Wow!

-She was awarded the Victoria medal

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from the Royal Horticultural Society, which is their top award.

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She was given an MBE.

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She produced illustrations.

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She produced lithographs.

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Over 800 drawings and paintings.

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We are dealing with an absolute,

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can I say, force of nature without being too punny?

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When one looks at Lilian Snelling's watercolours,

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we're talking about £4,000, £5,000 apiece.

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What is a Lilian Snelling diorama going to be worth?

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It's a completely different audience.

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I think it's worth a lot.

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I think it's fabulous.

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I would say £10,000 at least.

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It is spectacular,

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and it is that moment in particularly English history

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-where fairies were king and queen.

-Right.

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-Thank you very much indeed.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

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Well, let's have a look at what light does to stained glass.

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And I must say, that's a really good image.

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Tell us about it in your life.

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Well...the job I was doing, house clearances one day.

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In a skip, there were six of these sitting in the skip.

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Took them home, put them in the shed and forgot about them for six years.

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Then my wife said last night, this is down here,

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so we jumped on a bus this morning and here we are.

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These came out of an arts and crafts house.

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That style, you know, you go Baroque, rococo, neoclassical,

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Art Nouveau and Art Deco, all that lot.

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And nestled in the middle of Art Nouveau,

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arts and crafts was English Art Nouveau, sort of.

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And the artistic, painterly style

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that is most associated with the arts and crafts is Pre-Raphaelite,

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and these are Pre-Raphaelite.

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And you have a look at them and you think, this is very well executed.

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There's qualities of scale.

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It's not the greatest.

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-Oh, no, no, no.

-But it's really not bad.

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Basically, the colour is really nice on this.

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You have a lovely image.

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I've seen the images of the others that you have.

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They show the stages of man, don't they...?

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From a child up to old man.

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Start with a nurse, ends with a nurse.

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And here we have young man as pretty boy.

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-A teenager.

-I think we have. But he's into fashion, isn't he?

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You have a little damage here.

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It come out of the skip, remember. It could have been damaged there.

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Sure. Well, when it comes to value, this is the best.

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-Yeah, I'd say.

-This one's 500 quid.

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Oh!

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Others not quite so much.

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So, let's think.

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You got six out of the skip for nothing.

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Well, I reckon...

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£1,500 at auction.

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That's sweet as a nut, that is.

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-Better than working for a living, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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-Thank you very much.

-You're welcome.

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Ink wells made out of horses' hooves are not uncommon.

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I've seen literally hundreds of these over the years.

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But this is a first because this is a famous horse.

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I recognise the name of this horse and that's the first time

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that's ever happened. "Ronald" on the front of here

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is quite literally a horse celeb.

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He is a warhorse of the highest calibre.

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And here we have one of his hooves, mounted in silver,

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and turned into an inkwell with an inscription on top, which reads,

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"Hoof of Ronald, the charger ridden by James Thomas Brudenel,

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"7th Earl of Cardigan, at the Battle of Balaclava,

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"October 25th, 1854."

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-Now, there's a famous date.

-It is.

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How come you've ended up with Lord Cardigan's horse's hoof?

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Well...my grandfather on my mother's side,

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his great grandfather, who's a chap called John Harwood-Hill,

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was a vicar in Leicestershire in the 1830s.

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He became the Earl of Cardigan's librarian

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and they must have struck up a friendship because, in the 1870s,

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this hoof was given to him by the Countess of Cardigan.

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-Right.

-As a gift.

-That explains everything.

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I'm no military historian,

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so I can make no comment about the rights and wrongs

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of the Charge of the Light Brigade.

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But this was clearly an animal, whose devotion to his owner

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and bravery is beyond comprehension, really.

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And, Ronald, being Lord Cardigan's steed, led the charge.

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Ran all the way down to the Russian line,

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got through the Russian cannons,

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ran amok a bit behind the Russian cannons, and then charged back,

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survived. Out of the 600 and some horses that went into the charge,

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nearly 500 of them were killed. So then he came home

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and Ronald survived till 1872.

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And parts of him made into relics, including this hoof, of course,

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which is marked by EH Stockwell, who are very good London silversmiths.

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They've mounted this hoof in 1872.

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There are four of these hooves, as you may know.

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One of them is in the collection of the Hussars, one of them -

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in fact two of them are, because one of them was given to Edward VII

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as commander-in-chief of the 10th Hussars -

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one's retained by Lord Cardigan's family,

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and then there's the one that is on the record as having been

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in the ownership of Lady Sawyer, which is this one,

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which has now come down to you.

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In terms of a valuation, I'm going to be quite conservative.

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It's got to be worth at least £5,000.

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Ha!

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Unexpected.

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Thank you.

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I love your little collection of images here.

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-They're all Central line stations, aren't they?

-Yes, they are.

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We've got Bank, Museum, Marble Arch, Notting Hill,

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and the closest station to us, which is Tottenham Court Road.

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-They're postcards, aren't they?

-Absolutely, yes.

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Hard to tell that in these little frames.

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-Who framed them all up?

-So my mother's been looking out for them

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for the past 10, 15 years. She lives in Suffolk.

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Goes to quite a few postcard fairs,

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so she had them framed.

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I've been having them in my flats in south London.

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Now, these were originally made in the early 20th century.

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So, these are well over 100 years old, each of these postcards.

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They were drawn by an artist called Philip May

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and he was a great graphic artist, I think.

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Quite simple in style, but I really, really like his style.

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And, to be frank,

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most of these were given away free with publications

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-in the early 20th century.

-Oh, OK.

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So, anyway, you're obviously having a little bit of a problem

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-finishing off the set, are you?

-I've two missing.

-Right, OK.

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Essentially, what you have here is £70-£100 worth of cards.

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But, I think, actually, as they're framed up as a set,

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and they look really, really good, maybe £100, £150

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is kind of more like a sort of price for them.

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But I hope you manage to complete the set.

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Thank you. So do I.

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Here is one of the most important manuscripts

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that's ever likely to come onto the Antiques Roadshow.

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This comes from the library here, of course.

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I know it's known as the Chandos manuscript.

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What can you tell me about it?

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Well, the Chandos manuscript relates to the ownership of John Chandos.

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He was one of the most loyal supporters of the Black Prince.

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So, we're talking about the middle of the 14th century.

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-The reign of...

-Edward III.

-Edward III.

-And, at this time,

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Chandos was following the Black Prince to various battles in France

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for the Hundred Years War - Crecy, Poitiers.

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And it was Chandos's herald, the sort of PA,

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or publicist of the time,

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who was with him at these battles, recording what was happening.

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And the eyewitness account was then used to produce

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this beautifully illuminated bound book.

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Oh, and it was the Battle of Crecy, of course,

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where the Prince of Wales got his spurs, and also won these feathers,

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which the Prince of Wales is famous for today.

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He was knighted. This is all part of the current Royal Family's insignia.

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It goes right back to the heart of chivalry.

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This book, in many ways, epitomises the glory of war,

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and how it's then encapsulated, not just in the rich illumination,

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but in the storytelling. It's a bit of a spin.

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The spin of the Hundred Years War.

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In fact, it's not in English, but it is in French, isn't it?

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It is, because that was the language of court at the time.

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It was a book for the elites, written in French,

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with a few Latin phrases thrown in.

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Yes. So, it's the most remarkable thing. As far as I know,

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it is hardly well known at all.

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There is a similar version in Worcester College library in Oxford.

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Yes, but I'm talking about printed copies.

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Very few. 1842, we think there was a version, but it's...

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The text is well known, but as an object,

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as something that we treasure, it's almost unique.

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And he didn't get his notebook out and write it all down,

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he got a monk, presumably, to write it,

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as you would write an illuminated manuscript,

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a piece of sacred text, or something like that, and in a sacred way,

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and put this wonderful illuminated frontispiece here,

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showing God the Father supporting Christ on the cross.

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Underneath here, this is the bit that's been thumbed most.

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The Prince of Wales, here.

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He's on his knees, dressed in a surcoat.

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And the Prince of Wales feathers are on either side.

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This is the first time the feathers had been shown.

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And he's saying, "Tres unum sunt."

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Three in one are.

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Then the "Ich dien" here.

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To serve. I serve.

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So, it's a combination of different languages and symbolism.

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Any contemporary would have understood this.

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It does take a little bit more deciphering today.

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But it is absolutely exquisite and beautiful.

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Is it the most valuable thing you think you've got?

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It's the biggest treasure. It is the most valuable item.

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It is unique. It's priceless, in many ways.

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As far as I'm concerned, this is one of the cornerstones

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of English literature.

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Now, I know you've had it insured, and all the rest of it...

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Can you let us know?

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To me, this is a priceless item.

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But, for insurance purposes, £2 million.

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£2 million!

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Well, I think that's ridiculous

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because I think, if it came on the open market,

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and heaven forbid that it ever would,

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I think it would be worth twice that - £4 million.

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Well, as a Londoner,

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it's great for me to come back to London and see a London pot.

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It's terrific, isn't it?

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Made by the Doulton factory in Lambeth.

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-Yes.

-One of the greatest potters at the Lambeth factory

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in the 19th century was Hannah Barlow,

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who specialised in incising pots while they were wet

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and then decorating them - horses and bulls and cows

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and all sorts of wonderful creatures.

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She was a wonderful lady, who owned all these animals.

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-She had her own zoo.

-Oh, did she?

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Yes, had her own zoo! These are just horses

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but you can get kangaroos and all sorts of things by her!

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I think she's a wonderful woman.

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Had this incredible ability to incise and draw these horses.

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I think they're terrific things.

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-They're so lifelike, aren't they?

-Yes.

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It's basically called a loving cup.

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The idea is, you'd pass it round the table with drink in

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and everybody can take a handle and drink from one side of it.

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Oh, right. Very hygienic.

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It goes back a long way, these loving cups.

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But this is great.

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And, um, I think it's absolutely wonderful.

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Have you had it a long time?

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Not all that long.

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I was at an auction about nine months ago and I saw this.

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-Hm.

-I've got a bit of Hannah Barlow, but in those days,

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I couldn't afford to buy anything really decent.

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And I saw this and I thought, "I really must have it."

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They're often dated.

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This one... Yes, there we are.

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1875.

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She was quite young.

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How old would she be then, when she did that?

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She'd be in her twenties then.

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She came from the Lambeth School of Art.

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-Oh, right.

-Where she was trained,

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and, um, Doulton, Henry Doulton,

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was a wonderful chap in getting these young girls and boys

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from the Lambeth School of Art to come and work at the Doulton factory

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and encouraged them enormously.

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The prices of Hannah Barlow have dropped down a little bit

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-in recent years, I don't know why.

-Oh, dear.

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But one day she'll boost up again.

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But, I suppose, a pot like this, a year or so ago,

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would have been something like £1,000.

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Now down, possibly, to about £500.

0:18:390:18:42

But it's still a jolly fine pot.

0:18:420:18:44

-I love it very much. I'm sure you do.

-I do.

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It's a real statement, isn't it?

0:18:470:18:49

So, look after it. Think of Hannah Barlow,

0:18:490:18:52

-working in Lambeth.

-Yes.

0:18:520:18:53

Well, this is one of the largest ship models

0:18:590:19:02

we've ever had on the show.

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None other than HMS Victory,

0:19:040:19:06

perhaps the best-known British warship of all times.

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You must live in a pretty large house to accommodate this.

0:19:100:19:13

Unfortunately not, no.

0:19:130:19:15

It lives with us in our main room.

0:19:150:19:19

We have it on a sideboard against the wall

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and we sort of forget it's there half the time, really.

0:19:210:19:25

We have to be careful that we don't get too close to it.

0:19:250:19:27

-Yeah.

-It's quite fragile.

0:19:270:19:29

Absolutely. You've two very pretty little girls

0:19:290:19:32

and your wife stood behind you.

0:19:320:19:34

How do they cope with it?

0:19:340:19:36

Well, I do wonder it's still in one piece after bringing these two up,

0:19:360:19:40

because they do like to bounce around on the settee,

0:19:400:19:42

that's quite close.

0:19:420:19:44

-And it's amazing it's still in one piece, really.

-Yeah.

0:19:440:19:46

Built in around 1920.

0:19:460:19:49

The quality's kind of middling, not spectacular quality,

0:19:490:19:53

but you have all the gun deck detail and cannons.

0:19:530:19:56

-I'd agree.

-When did it first come to you?

0:19:560:19:59

I inherited it from my late father,

0:19:590:20:02

who acquired it originally in the late '90s.

0:20:020:20:06

-Right.

-And it came to him from a dealer on the coast in Emsworth.

0:20:060:20:10

-Right.

-Not far from Portsmouth.

0:20:100:20:12

-Yeah.

-And my dad received it as part payment

0:20:120:20:16

for a boat he was selling to this chap.

0:20:160:20:19

So, it was cash and this boat as well.

0:20:190:20:21

OK. A bit of wheeling and dealing.

0:20:210:20:23

The story that came with it was there was some provenance

0:20:230:20:26

-attached to it...

-Yes.

-..which related to

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the fundraising tour organised by WL Wyllie, in the 1920s.

0:20:300:20:35

William Lionel Wyllie, born actually in Camden

0:20:350:20:39

just a few miles from here.

0:20:390:20:41

One of the greatest of naval and maritime painters.

0:20:410:20:44

He was one of the main campaigners to have the original HMS Victory,

0:20:440:20:49

which was in a terrible state, in the sort of 1910...

0:20:490:20:53

And he realised how important this was

0:20:530:20:57

as a national icon and that the ship should be saved.

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And he, in fact, spent time touring the UK, giving lectures,

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and raising funds to make a start.

0:21:050:21:09

I think the restoration started in 1922 and took seven years.

0:21:090:21:13

But, I mean, it's ongoing, isn't it?

0:21:130:21:15

It is. Yeah. They've just recently repainted it, last year, I think,

0:21:150:21:21

-in a lemon yellow and grey colour.

-Right.

0:21:210:21:24

William Lionel Wyllie's attempt to raise the funds worked.

0:21:240:21:27

It was saved for the nation.

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And it's quite possible that a model like this was used

0:21:290:21:32

to show what the restored wreck of the ship

0:21:320:21:36

would look like on completion.

0:21:360:21:39

In fact, what took me was the detail of the rigging.

0:21:390:21:43

There's no sails on this particular model.

0:21:430:21:45

No, there's not, no. I also understand it was made

0:21:450:21:48

for the restorers to get the rigging precise.

0:21:480:21:50

-Oh, right.

-That was part of the purpose of this model.

0:21:500:21:53

We do decorate it every year for Christmas with lights -

0:21:530:21:57

fairy lights - and a few small baubles, bit of tinsel.

0:21:570:22:00

Instead of getting a tree, sometimes, you know.

0:22:000:22:03

Great. It obviously is a ship that earns its keep in your household.

0:22:030:22:07

-It does.

-Part of the landscape.

0:22:070:22:09

I would have thought, in a special sale,

0:22:090:22:11

with obviously the link to Wyllie,

0:22:110:22:15

which obviously we've no absolute concrete evidence about,

0:22:150:22:18

it's worth... And it is limited by size, I'll be honest.

0:22:180:22:22

Smaller ships could make more sometimes.

0:22:220:22:24

It's the kind of piece that might look good in the Victory Hotel,

0:22:240:22:28

-you know, on display.

-Or here!

0:22:280:22:29

-Yeah, here!

-It's great here.

-You've got the room.

0:22:290:22:32

-Value, at auction, £1,500, £2,500, that sort of area.

-OK.

0:22:320:22:38

OK. Been a pleasure.

0:22:380:22:40

Really, you have got a very lovely fan.

0:22:450:22:48

French.

0:22:480:22:50

1780, 1790, this sort of period.

0:22:500:22:54

A silk panel here.

0:22:540:22:56

So, this is something you've acquired recently?

0:22:560:22:59

Yes, quite recently, a couple of months or so.

0:22:590:23:01

But it's pretty much to put towards my fashion business

0:23:010:23:04

-that I'm trying to launch.

-Good.

0:23:040:23:06

I haven't managed to get any funding from anywhere else,

0:23:060:23:08

so I thought, "Why not buy and sell antiques?"

0:23:080:23:11

I love that. I love the kind of beautiful objects from the past.

0:23:110:23:14

It's good. I don't know what it cost you.

0:23:190:23:21

100 quid.

0:23:210:23:23

That sounds remarkably cheap.

0:23:230:23:25

I shouldn't go into fashion at all.

0:23:270:23:28

-Stick to antiques.

-It's a bargain.

0:23:280:23:30

You're going to do rather better, I think!

0:23:300:23:33

He's got an amazing eye.

0:23:330:23:34

Just a really jolly day out.

0:23:400:23:42

A lovely, romantic scene.

0:23:420:23:44

Flanked to either side by these oval panels,

0:23:440:23:47

with musical instruments, floral swags.

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It really is a really romantic piece.

0:23:490:23:53

Value-wise, they are slightly tricky.

0:23:530:23:55

But it's upper hundreds. Is it towards £1,000?

0:23:550:23:58

£800, £1,000 - is it a little over that?

0:23:580:24:01

That sort of region, really.

0:24:010:24:03

The colours are bright.

0:24:030:24:04

It's got everything somebody would really like to own in a fan, really.

0:24:040:24:08

This is such a celebration of colour.

0:24:170:24:19

And I see that it's signed "Nolan."

0:24:190:24:23

Who's Sidney Nolan,

0:24:230:24:25

who's obviously Australia's greatest 20th-century artist.

0:24:250:24:29

Can you tell us how it came to be yours?

0:24:290:24:31

In 1987, I was a young company manager at the Royal Opera House.

0:24:310:24:36

We were doing a new production

0:24:360:24:38

of Mozart's Die Entfuhrung Aus Dem Serail,

0:24:380:24:40

And the director, Elijah Moshinsky,

0:24:400:24:43

asked his friend, who was Sidney Nolan,

0:24:430:24:46

to come and design the sets.

0:24:460:24:47

Amazing! So, can you tell us a little bit more

0:24:470:24:50

about where does this fit in to the set design?

0:24:500:24:52

They did lots of model development meetings

0:24:520:24:55

and, during the course of that, Sidney designed four drops

0:24:550:24:59

to be used in production. There was a front cloth

0:24:590:25:02

and three other backdrops and this is one of them.

0:25:020:25:05

This one wasn't actually used in the production

0:25:050:25:08

because we ran out of money and didn't have enough to realise them all.

0:25:080:25:11

So, I suppose it's unusual from that point of view as well,

0:25:110:25:14

because it wasn't actually in the show in the end.

0:25:140:25:16

I think that actually makes it even more unusual

0:25:160:25:19

because the other designs that were used,

0:25:190:25:22

they're captured in images of the set,

0:25:220:25:24

whereas this is probably the first time

0:25:240:25:27

this design has ever been unveiled to the world on camera.

0:25:270:25:31

For me, it's also really interesting because Nolan is most well known

0:25:310:25:35

for an incredible series of work about Ned Kelly,

0:25:350:25:38

who is this Australian outlaw.

0:25:380:25:40

When the Royal Academy had their recent Australia exhibition,

0:25:400:25:43

that series was at the heart of the whole exhibition.

0:25:430:25:47

What's interesting about this piece though, is that it shows

0:25:470:25:50

a really very different side.

0:25:500:25:52

He designed many sets for the Royal Opera House.

0:25:520:25:55

What's particularly interesting about this one from the '80s is,

0:25:550:25:59

if you look closely at it,

0:25:590:26:00

-it's a water-based paint, but he's actually used spray paint.

-Yeah.

0:26:000:26:04

That shows how innovative he was and he was also really interested

0:26:040:26:09

in changing, using different materials, using different paints.

0:26:090:26:13

When he first started painting in oil,

0:26:130:26:15

he actually painted using Ripolin, which is just a household paint.

0:26:150:26:18

What I love about this piece, though, is the history.

0:26:180:26:21

Knowing it's for a set design, so he designed it to be huge.

0:26:210:26:26

But actually, on this scale, it works remarkably well.

0:26:260:26:29

Yeah, it absolutely does.

0:26:290:26:30

So, if this was coming up at auction,

0:26:300:26:32

I'd suggest an estimate in the region of £1,200 to £1,800.

0:26:320:26:36

Great. That's really nice, but I'm going to keep it

0:26:360:26:39

because it was something that he gave to me.

0:26:390:26:41

Talk about decadent. Talk about amazing.

0:26:440:26:47

This is exactly the sort of things that members of the Bloomsbury Set

0:26:470:26:51

would have sported to smoke their cheroots or cigarettes in -

0:26:510:26:55

this miniature,

0:26:550:26:56

pipe-shaped cigarette holder.

0:26:560:26:59

And we're in the heart of Bloomsbury,

0:26:590:27:02

-and you guys are dressed so appropriately.

-Indeed.

0:27:020:27:05

You clearly know where to find fabulous accessories.

0:27:050:27:09

Where on earth did you find this?

0:27:090:27:10

Well, this is sort of inherited from my next-door neighbour, in Italy,

0:27:100:27:17

in Trieste. I was the only one in the family

0:27:170:27:19

to actually appreciate the sort of things she collected.

0:27:190:27:22

She collected a lot of bits and pieces.

0:27:220:27:25

And so it ended up with me because I deserve it, I think.

0:27:250:27:28

You know, things that fit in with the way you guys look,

0:27:290:27:33

obviously find their way to you.

0:27:330:27:35

Indeed. I believe so.

0:27:350:27:37

-Absolutely.

-It's a very rare thing.

-Oh.

0:27:370:27:39

It's made in Renaissance tradition and in Austro-Hungary,

0:27:390:27:44

when this was made, which was about 1880, 1890, or a bit before,

0:27:440:27:48

they did Renaissance revival pieces,

0:27:480:27:51

jewellery, just like you've described.

0:27:510:27:54

But they also mounted rock crystal and semi-precious stone vessels,

0:27:540:27:59

lapis, with silver and gold on silver-gilt mounts, with enamel,

0:27:590:28:03

all in the Renaissance style. That's what this fits into.

0:28:030:28:06

Blackamoors were exotic.

0:28:060:28:08

He's dressed with a turban from the Ottoman style,

0:28:080:28:11

with the crescent on there.

0:28:110:28:13

And it's got a little jewel in his turban.

0:28:130:28:16

It's so beautiful.

0:28:160:28:17

The face is enamelled in black with earrings.

0:28:170:28:21

It's so complete. It's like a miniature pipe.

0:28:210:28:24

-Yeah.

-You get Meerschaum pipes, full size,

0:28:240:28:27

carved in the forms of Blackamoors and other subject matter.

0:28:270:28:30

But this is a miniature pipe.

0:28:300:28:32

In silvergilt. This was gilt once.

0:28:320:28:35

The gilt has worn off because you've smoked so much with it.

0:28:350:28:38

-Guilty.

-And I think the jewel is probably a garnet,

0:28:380:28:42

which was typical again of Austro-Hungarian work.

0:28:420:28:45

-Right.

-I've never seen one of these in the flesh, so to speak,

0:28:450:28:50

or in the metal. And, um...

0:28:500:28:52

something like that, in the right shop in the West End, or in Paris,

0:28:520:28:58

or in New York, or in a good auction,

0:28:580:29:01

would make at least £1,500.

0:29:010:29:04

Seriously?

0:29:070:29:08

Seriously.

0:29:080:29:10

-Thank you very much.

-A very rare thing.

0:29:100:29:12

-Fantastic!

-Thank you.

0:29:120:29:14

Well, I must say, this is the nicest piece of engraving

0:29:200:29:24

that's been brought in on the series for me.

0:29:240:29:27

It is such a beautiful glass.

0:29:270:29:29

So, I need to place it in your life

0:29:290:29:31

before going any further. How do you know it?

0:29:310:29:34

This was given to my husband as a gift by one of his patients,

0:29:340:29:39

as a thank you.

0:29:390:29:41

OK. What did he do?

0:29:410:29:44

I really don't know.

0:29:440:29:46

-OK.

-I possibly can't say.

0:29:460:29:48

OK. What do you think of it yourself? How do you see it?

0:29:480:29:52

I love it. I love the engraving on it.

0:29:520:29:54

It's so intricate.

0:29:540:29:56

What you have is a glass that, first of all,

0:29:560:29:59

dates from 1740, or thereabouts.

0:29:590:30:03

So, it's 260, 270 years old.

0:30:030:30:08

It comes from Silesia,

0:30:090:30:11

which has had a chequered history and it's now in southern Germany,

0:30:110:30:15

Poland. That's where it is, right down Central Europe,

0:30:150:30:19

where wheel engraving was practised

0:30:190:30:24

to a degree of complex, rococo-style scrolls.

0:30:240:30:30

This has come out of a style known as Baroque, into rococo,

0:30:300:30:34

where you have... The glass is smothered.

0:30:340:30:37

It's called Laub und Bandelwerk, which is framed.

0:30:370:30:41

You have trellises and it's all interconnected.

0:30:410:30:45

And the quality of the engraving ranges through the glass.

0:30:460:30:50

So, at the front, the ship, the galleon we have here,

0:30:500:30:55

is very high quality indeed.

0:30:550:30:57

But what surrounds it is not quite as good.

0:30:570:31:00

So, it's like Leonardo da Vinci might paint your portrait

0:31:000:31:06

and others would paint the backgrounds.

0:31:060:31:08

That's what's happened here. You've got two qualities.

0:31:080:31:12

On the back,

0:31:120:31:13

you have an inscription in high German Gothic, which says,

0:31:130:31:18

"Words can't express my gratitude to you,

0:31:180:31:22

"so let me give you this glass as an expression of my thoughts."

0:31:220:31:27

So, whoever gave him this actually...

0:31:270:31:30

He knew what he was doing. This wasn't an accident.

0:31:300:31:33

This is somebody saying, "Thank you very much indeed."

0:31:330:31:37

And isn't that an eloquent...?

0:31:380:31:40

If you get it, it makes it a much more valuable item.

0:31:400:31:43

To you, it doesn't make it more valuable in the market,

0:31:430:31:46

but, to your husband, I can't wait for you to be sitting down

0:31:460:31:49

and telling him this tonight when you go home

0:31:490:31:52

because he's going to be so chuffed.

0:31:520:31:54

-He will.

-He will.

0:31:540:31:55

So, it's a value in sentiment

0:31:550:31:58

which got a tear on the end of my eyelid

0:31:580:32:01

but it's also kind of 600 quid's worth of value, too.

0:32:010:32:05

So, can I come and be a fly on the wall when you tell him tonight?

0:32:050:32:10

I will. Thank you very much.

0:32:100:32:12

You're most welcome. What a pleasure it is

0:32:120:32:14

to be explaining your own possessions to you! Lovely!

0:32:140:32:17

-It's wonderful. Thank you.

-Thank you.

0:32:170:32:20

It's time for this week's Enigma.

0:32:350:32:37

We haven't trawled the local museums here in London,

0:32:370:32:40

we've actually had a little help from a friend, Henry Sandon.

0:32:400:32:43

Fergus Gambon is here to tell us about our mystery item.

0:32:430:32:46

This is Henry's originally.

0:32:460:32:47

This is Henry's. He brought it in just for our delectation today.

0:32:470:32:52

Now, it can't be a gravy boat

0:32:520:32:54

because it looks a bit like one but that's too obvious.

0:32:540:32:57

That's what it is.

0:32:570:32:59

So, what suggestions have you got?

0:32:590:33:02

It's a gravy boat. I don't know what the problem is.

0:33:020:33:04

-It's not a gravy boat!

-Of course it is.

0:33:040:33:06

What else could it be? It's a gravy boat.

0:33:060:33:08

More specifically, it's a gravy boat for soy sauce.

0:33:080:33:10

-Ah!

-Or rather, for soy sauce substitute,

0:33:100:33:14

which was made using portobello mushrooms

0:33:140:33:16

when they couldn't get the real thing.

0:33:160:33:18

Why would soy sauce or a substitute for it

0:33:180:33:21

have a special kind of gravy boat?

0:33:210:33:23

The truth of the matter is, I really don't know.

0:33:230:33:26

But I guess also, most 18th-century sauce boats

0:33:260:33:28

are very open in their shape.

0:33:280:33:30

This idea of enclosing it to keep the contents warm

0:33:300:33:33

without the need for a cover is what this is all about.

0:33:330:33:36

OK. So, a fancy type of gravy boat.

0:33:360:33:39

What else could it be?

0:33:400:33:42

It's a communal drinking vessel.

0:33:420:33:45

And how would such be used?

0:33:470:33:48

Well, if you think through history,

0:33:480:33:50

one of the great things that people did when they gathered together

0:33:500:33:54

to reaffirm their friendship and love for each other,

0:33:540:33:57

through history, is they've drunk together.

0:33:570:33:59

-What, like this?

-Like that, or from the side.

0:33:590:34:02

-We're not quite sure.

-How could you drink from the side?

0:34:020:34:05

The fact it's folded over means it would go everywhere.

0:34:050:34:08

It would.

0:34:080:34:09

Again, it's not totally certain.

0:34:090:34:11

But I think, you pick it up like that, and you do it like this.

0:34:110:34:14

Some thought it was done when people gathered together at hunts,

0:34:140:34:18

that kind of thing. The hunt followers would have used it

0:34:180:34:21

-for that purpose.

-OK.

-OK.

0:34:210:34:24

So, what's your third offer?

0:34:240:34:26

-Your final and best offer?

-My third offer...

0:34:260:34:29

is that it's a lady's portable urinal.

0:34:290:34:33

-A she-wee.

-And 18th-century she-wee, that's right.

0:34:350:34:38

How would that be used, then?

0:34:380:34:40

This should be obvious to me.

0:34:410:34:43

I'm not the best equipped to demonstrate, I'm afraid.

0:34:430:34:46

So, why would it be needed instead of a retiring room, a kind of loo?

0:34:480:34:54

People at courts, or people, say, at church,

0:34:540:34:58

they had to sit or stand for a long time and they got caught short.

0:34:580:35:04

-So, a fancy gravy boat for soy sauce or the equivalent.

-Yeah.

0:35:040:35:08

A communal drinking cup.

0:35:080:35:10

Though it must be quite a messy one.

0:35:100:35:13

Or a portable female urinal contraption thingamajig.

0:35:130:35:18

OK, what we do we think?

0:35:190:35:21

Chaps, I'm going to leave you out of this for a minute.

0:35:210:35:23

Ladies, what do we think?

0:35:230:35:25

Hands up for the gravy boat thing.

0:35:250:35:27

OK. A few for the gravy boat.

0:35:280:35:31

Communal drinking cup?

0:35:310:35:32

Portable female urinal?

0:35:340:35:35

Do you know, I'm going for that.

0:35:380:35:39

Because, apart from anything else, the shape, Fergus.

0:35:390:35:42

The shape alone, without wishing to be indelicate

0:35:420:35:46

at this time of the day, and evening in fact,

0:35:460:35:48

it just lends itself so beautifully, I would say.

0:35:480:35:52

And actually, people were pretty...

0:35:520:35:54

-Shameless?

-They were pretty shameless

0:35:540:35:56

about their bodily functions.

0:35:560:35:58

I can just imagine someone slipping it under their skirts and presumably

0:35:580:36:01

passing it to some hapless and very unfortunate flunky.

0:36:010:36:03

We're going for the female urinal?

0:36:030:36:06

We are.

0:36:060:36:07

-You've beaten me.

-Yes!

0:36:070:36:09

CHEERING AND LAUGHTER

0:36:090:36:12

No, it is. That's what it is.

0:36:120:36:14

And it has a very, very poncy name.

0:36:140:36:17

It's called a borderloo.

0:36:170:36:18

A friend of mine went to a very posh dinner party

0:36:180:36:21

in a lovely country house.

0:36:210:36:22

And he sat down at this lovely, long table, laid with white linen,

0:36:220:36:26

18th-century porcelain, wonderful silver.

0:36:260:36:29

And there, on the table, was one of those.

0:36:290:36:31

-As a gravy boat?

-As a gravy boat.

0:36:310:36:33

The occupants of the house had no idea.

0:36:330:36:35

So, he had his food, minus gravy.

0:36:360:36:39

What a great thing!

0:36:430:36:45

-Thanks, Fergus.

-It's a pleasure.

0:36:450:36:47

So, how does a book

0:36:500:36:52

about fruits from the West Indies

0:36:520:36:55

come into your possession?

0:36:550:36:57

We actually think it belonged to my grandmother.

0:36:570:37:00

-Right.

-She lived in Bristol.

0:37:000:37:02

She was a Lady Mayoress there in the '50s, and she was a great collector.

0:37:020:37:06

After my father died, we found this amongst his archive.

0:37:060:37:10

-Right.

-She had scrapbooks and a lot of other things,

0:37:100:37:12

but we just came across these and hadn't been aware of them.

0:37:120:37:16

Interesting. So, she'd never showed the book to you in her lifetime.

0:37:160:37:19

No. I doubt it's seen the light of day for about 70 years,

0:37:190:37:22

-something like that.

-Well, it certainly seems it.

0:37:220:37:25

It's actually in very good condition,

0:37:250:37:26

the original condition it would have been found in,

0:37:260:37:29

would have been published in. It's by this lady, Lydia Byam.

0:37:290:37:33

-Yes.

-She came from a big family on Antigua.

0:37:330:37:36

But, because there were several Lydia Byams,

0:37:370:37:40

there's a little bit of confusion about sometimes which one it is.

0:37:400:37:44

-Right.

-But, about the book itself,

0:37:440:37:47

published in 1800, and probably done privately,

0:37:470:37:52

as it says. It says printed at the Oriental Press for the author.

0:37:520:37:55

So, done in a very, very small number of copies.

0:37:550:37:59

-Yes.

-It's illustrated with wonderful colour plates,

0:37:590:38:02

produced with aquatint, all done by hand.

0:38:020:38:05

But these are exotic fruits that people back in the UK

0:38:050:38:10

-probably might not have ever heard about...

-Or let alone seen.

0:38:100:38:13

Certainly wouldn't have seen.

0:38:130:38:15

So, this sort of life-size, I guess, I don't know,

0:38:150:38:18

or even bigger than life-size, illustrated depictions

0:38:180:38:21

of what these fruits looked like

0:38:210:38:22

must have been quite stunning in those days.

0:38:220:38:24

-Fantastic!

-There are supposed to be nine of these in the book.

0:38:240:38:29

-Yes.

-Sadly, you're missing one.

0:38:290:38:32

-Yes.

-No idea where it is?

0:38:320:38:33

No. We think maybe it got framed, and hung a long time ago,

0:38:330:38:37

-but, no, we don't know.

-It's a great shame.

0:38:370:38:40

-It is a shame.

-Because it's a very rare book.

0:38:400:38:42

It doesn't come up very often for sale on the market.

0:38:420:38:45

I couldn't find any copies available at the moment.

0:38:450:38:48

So, that means it's rare.

0:38:480:38:50

And, if it was complete, in this condition,

0:38:500:38:53

I think you'd easily see a collector paying

0:38:530:38:56

-somewhere around £10,000 for it.

-What?

0:38:560:38:59

-But it's not complete.

-No. I know.

0:38:590:39:01

Despite that, it's still, I think, an estimate of £4,000 to £6,000.

0:39:010:39:06

-Really?

-Yeah.

-Blimey!

-It's a really, really rare thing.

0:39:060:39:10

And there are a lot of very good collectors

0:39:100:39:13

for books about the West Indies.

0:39:130:39:16

-OK.

-Particularly books of natural history,

0:39:160:39:19

which are very, very obscure and difficult to come by.

0:39:190:39:22

Well, how extraordinary!

0:39:220:39:24

-But it's a lovely thing. Thank you very much indeed.

-Thank you.

0:39:240:39:27

This has got to be one of

0:39:310:39:33

the most unusually-known sports I've ever come across.

0:39:330:39:35

Perhaps you can tell me, rather than me trip over my words.

0:39:350:39:39

It's a style of wrestling called catch as catch can.

0:39:390:39:43

It was predominantly in Lancashire and Cheshire,

0:39:430:39:45

but other areas did have it as well.

0:39:450:39:47

And this is your grandfather, I believe?

0:39:470:39:49

-It certainly is, yes.

-As world champion?

-Champion...

0:39:490:39:52

Wearing this very belt, which he was presented in 1905.

0:39:520:39:56

-1905, yes.

-And the belt's 1904, so that kind of makes sense.

0:39:560:39:59

-Yes.

-I gather your father also participated.

0:39:590:40:02

Yes. He joined a gymnasium in Manchester run by my grandfather.

0:40:020:40:06

-Right.

-My grandfather was teaching him to become a wrestler

0:40:060:40:10

with a view to entering the 1916 Olympics.

0:40:100:40:13

Unfortunately, my father got injured on the Somme in 1916,

0:40:130:40:17

so that put an end to his active wrestling career.

0:40:170:40:20

But he became a referee.

0:40:200:40:22

And this is a picture of him.

0:40:220:40:24

-Refereeing?

-Refereeing in Leigh, Lancashire,

0:40:240:40:28

in 1926.

0:40:280:40:31

-Right.

-He did a lot of refereeing.

0:40:310:40:34

He was a referee at the 1924 Olympics in Paris.

0:40:340:40:36

Wow! He must've been a good referee.

0:40:360:40:38

-Well...

-You can't get to the Olympics as a champion,

0:40:380:40:41

-you get to the Olympics as a referee.

-Yes.

0:40:410:40:44

Now, this belt is the silver belt of a World Champion.

0:40:440:40:49

And, if you don't mind, if you'll indulge me for a second,

0:40:490:40:52

something I've been dying to do all day.

0:40:520:40:54

Not that I'm ever going to win the belt of a World Champion.

0:40:560:41:00

But if I could just pull it behind me and strike that pose...

0:41:000:41:03

..I can feel like it for a minute or two.

0:41:050:41:08

Better pop it back before I get delusions of grandeur.

0:41:080:41:12

And there we are. So, this is a gorgeous belt.

0:41:140:41:17

It's velvet-backed, obviously.

0:41:170:41:19

The five plaques are made of solid silver.

0:41:190:41:22

They're all marked for London 1904.

0:41:220:41:25

And the ropes around the ring here are in gilt,

0:41:250:41:28

they've been gold-plated,

0:41:280:41:29

so to pick them out and make it look even grander around his waist,

0:41:290:41:33

-as it does there.

-Yeah.

0:41:330:41:35

I gather this bowl, you think, was bought with his wrestling winnings.

0:41:350:41:39

Could well have been, yes.

0:41:390:41:41

He's a very far-sighted man because this bowl,

0:41:410:41:44

which he very cleverly bought somewhere in the late-19th century,

0:41:440:41:49

I assume, it's dated 1885...

0:41:490:41:52

-Yes.

-..is of a design attributed to a fellow called Christopher Dresser,

0:41:520:41:56

who's one of the most important designers in silver

0:41:560:41:59

-in the late-19th century.

-That's interesting.

0:41:590:42:01

Your belt here, which he was so proud of,

0:42:010:42:03

and I should think thought much more of than this bowl,

0:42:030:42:06

is worth around £800.

0:42:060:42:08

This bowl is today worth about £3,000.

0:42:080:42:12

Oh!

0:42:120:42:14

That is as a surprise.

0:42:150:42:17

Clever fellow. And very far-sighted for a man who was much more keen on

0:42:170:42:21

wrestling than he was, presumably, on applied art and silverware.

0:42:210:42:25

Yes.

0:42:250:42:26

There's really only two names we could think of

0:42:310:42:34

when we see this vase.

0:42:340:42:35

One was William Moorcroft

0:42:350:42:37

and the other is Liberty.

0:42:370:42:38

And, lo and behold, yours has got both of them on.

0:42:380:42:42

How did it come into your possession?

0:42:420:42:44

Well, it was my mother's.

0:42:440:42:45

And I don't really know how she got it

0:42:450:42:47

except that it's possible it was given to her by one of her admirers.

0:42:470:42:51

1930, when this was made,

0:42:550:42:56

it's already been an expensive piece of pottery.

0:42:560:42:59

This is Moorcroft flambe.

0:42:590:43:01

It's a very hard technique to do.

0:43:010:43:03

If you fire it too much, all the design disappears.

0:43:030:43:07

But if you fire it perfectly, it's wonderful.

0:43:070:43:11

This is kind of just a little bit over-fired,

0:43:110:43:13

but it's a lovely shape.

0:43:130:43:15

The pattern, the tree landscape, everything works together.

0:43:150:43:19

Your mother must have been a well-admired lady

0:43:230:43:26

because if I had an admirer, who gave this to me,

0:43:260:43:29

in cash terms,

0:43:290:43:31

they'd be giving me £2,000.

0:43:310:43:33

-Wow!

-So that's some admiration.

0:43:330:43:36

Do you know, one of the great pleasures of doing this show,

0:43:400:43:42

and in fact actually working in my profession is,

0:43:420:43:45

I never know what I'm going to be confronted with.

0:43:450:43:47

Then, suddenly, to be confronted with an item that is this good,

0:43:470:43:51

this superlative, and looks this beautiful,

0:43:510:43:53

it's always an absolute joy.

0:43:530:43:55

We've got this amazing, carved, little, wooden object.

0:43:550:43:59

Now, do you know what it is?

0:43:590:44:01

-No idea at all.

-You have no idea at all.

0:44:010:44:03

-No.

-OK. Well, I'm not going to tell you for a minute.

0:44:030:44:07

What I want to know is, where did you get it from?

0:44:070:44:10

Well, it belongs to my father-in-law and he got it from a family friend.

0:44:100:44:13

And, beyond that, we know nothing at all.

0:44:130:44:16

You know nothing at all? You must have admired it as an object.

0:44:160:44:19

-It really is beautiful, isn't it?

-Yes, it is.

0:44:190:44:21

Actually, what it is is a knitting sheath.

0:44:210:44:24

It's a tool, basically.

0:44:250:44:27

It's not absolutely complete.

0:44:270:44:29

It would have had what's known as a prick in the end of it,

0:44:290:44:32

a needle in the end of it here.

0:44:320:44:35

But I want to talk about the way it's been made

0:44:350:44:37

because it is absolutely, exquisitely carved.

0:44:370:44:40

-It's essentially folk art.

-Yeah.

0:44:400:44:43

This kind of object is just in such demand with collectors,

0:44:430:44:47

I have to say. The obvious inscription is

0:44:470:44:50

that set of initials there.

0:44:500:44:52

That looks like an IB.

0:44:520:44:55

Had you ever noticed another inscription?

0:44:550:44:57

There's a number at the end of it, but, er...

0:44:570:45:00

There is a number at the end of it.

0:45:000:45:01

Actually, it's the arrangement of the set of numbers that's important

0:45:010:45:05

because you can construe it in a couple of ways, can't you?

0:45:050:45:08

But I'm going to construe it as the date 1749.

0:45:080:45:12

That is really, really beautiful because not only to get

0:45:120:45:15

a superlatively-carved little knitting sheath like this

0:45:150:45:19

with a set of initials, but with a date as well,

0:45:190:45:23

is exceptionally rare.

0:45:230:45:25

And actually, really fabulous.

0:45:250:45:27

Look at some of the detail on here!

0:45:270:45:29

We've got these really incredible little figures.

0:45:290:45:31

In fact, actually, they look much older, don't they?

0:45:310:45:33

They look Elizabethan, almost. Figures with fans.

0:45:330:45:36

We've got some zoomorphic sort of creatures there.

0:45:360:45:39

What appears to be a lizard, perhaps, and some snakes.

0:45:390:45:43

But what is almost certain is that this was carved

0:45:430:45:46

perhaps by a gentleman for his sweetheart.

0:45:460:45:49

Now, if we look at this section here, we've got a seal.

0:45:490:45:54

And it's a dove with an olive branch.

0:45:540:45:56

Now, that should have been connected to that bit with a wooden chain.

0:45:560:46:00

And the wooden chain has gone missing.

0:46:020:46:04

But, do you know? I can kind of forgive it that,

0:46:040:46:06

because it's such a beautiful object

0:46:060:46:09

that it might not be quite complete, but it's of such superlative quality

0:46:090:46:14

that I can kind of put up with that, really.

0:46:140:46:16

But it is really very beautiful piece of folk art.

0:46:160:46:20

-I think this is probably cherrywood.

-Right.

0:46:200:46:23

Look at the way it has acquired that colour, that patination.

0:46:230:46:27

It is a very lovely item and I doubt that I'm ever likely to see one

0:46:270:46:31

as good on the Roadshow again.

0:46:310:46:33

-Right.

-Let's think about the valuation on it.

0:46:330:46:36

I think, if this were to go into a good sale,

0:46:360:46:39

this would more than likely make round about £2,000 to £3,000.

0:46:390:46:43

-Astonishing!

-It is astonishing, really, isn't it?

0:46:460:46:49

Thank you.

0:46:490:46:51

So, I can very safely say that the watch is rather older than you,

0:46:560:47:00

so I presume it wasn't yours. So, how have you got it now?

0:47:000:47:03

Well, this watch originally belonged to my great-grandfather.

0:47:030:47:07

He died in the mid '80s and left it to my grandmother,

0:47:070:47:10

and she gave it to me.

0:47:100:47:11

-Have you ever worn it? Do you use it?

-No. I never.

0:47:110:47:14

I think it's too precious, so I just keep it on the side.

0:47:140:47:18

OK, it's a Bulova Accutron.

0:47:180:47:20

They first came on the market in October 1960.

0:47:200:47:24

And this was the first electronic wrist watch.

0:47:250:47:28

It has, and you can see there, the tuning fork,

0:47:290:47:32

which vibrated 360 times a second,

0:47:320:47:36

and via miniature, transistorised, electronic circuit,

0:47:360:47:41

it was very much the first full-blown electric wristwatch.

0:47:410:47:46

And this particular one is in what the Americans call rolled gold,

0:47:460:47:50

so just plated.

0:47:500:47:52

But it would have retailed at the time for about 150,

0:47:520:47:55

which was a great deal of money in the 1960s.

0:47:550:47:58

Production ceased in about '75, '76, having sold 5 million.

0:47:580:48:04

And the reason production ceased is because the big Japanese companies

0:48:050:48:10

came cracking in with the quartz crystal

0:48:100:48:13

and the liquid crystal display of the digital dial.

0:48:130:48:18

And is there anything specific you've noticed about that,

0:48:180:48:22

compared to a normal watch?

0:48:220:48:24

It doesn't have a watch face.

0:48:240:48:25

Correct. It's got a skeletonised dial, and this particular one

0:48:250:48:30

is what Bulova referred to as the space view.

0:48:300:48:33

So you can see right through to all the electronic circuitry

0:48:330:48:37

and, particularly, the little tuning-fork device.

0:48:370:48:42

What is lovely, it's got an original Bulova strap.

0:48:420:48:45

When I see these, most of the straps are worn out and rather poor,

0:48:450:48:49

-but this is good.

-Yeah.

0:48:490:48:51

I did say that there had been many millions produced...

0:48:520:48:56

-Yeah.

-So, you're probably going to be disappointed

0:48:560:48:58

-when I tell you it's not a high-value item.

-OK.

0:48:580:49:02

And condition is so important.

0:49:020:49:05

There's slight scratching on this dial, on the glass.

0:49:050:49:10

I'm going to say, in that state, about £300.

0:49:100:49:14

OK. Quite nice.

0:49:140:49:16

It's still nice, you're absolutely right.

0:49:160:49:18

Bearing in mind there were 5 million made...

0:49:180:49:20

-Yeah.

-..it's not bad at all, is it?

-Not bad.

0:49:200:49:23

12 musical plates.

0:49:270:49:29

We're used to musical chairs, but musical plates?

0:49:290:49:31

-Yes.

-Where did they come from?

0:49:310:49:33

It was bought by my late husband.

0:49:330:49:36

He passed an antique shop and he saw it.

0:49:360:49:41

He said it's so interesting because the different plate,

0:49:410:49:46

the same figure, but the pattern is different...

0:49:460:49:50

-Yes.

-But the whole style is in the same genre.

0:49:500:49:54

These are French plates from a very well-known part of France,

0:49:540:49:58

up in the top north-east corner of France.

0:49:580:50:03

And they specialised in producing high-quality, multicoloured,

0:50:030:50:08

printed plates of the mid-19th century and beyond.

0:50:080:50:11

So this is actually quite a revolutionary technique.

0:50:110:50:14

-Yes.

-But the other thing is, there's a sense of humour about this.

0:50:140:50:18

-Yes.

-I'm hoping there are musicians in your family.

0:50:180:50:21

-But there aren't!

-Maybe, Peking Opera.

0:50:210:50:25

Oh, Peking Opera! Oh, no. Yeah.

0:50:250:50:27

Well, that's a noise I do not want to replicate.

0:50:290:50:31

But, it's funny. Yes, it is that sort of caterwauling sound,

0:50:310:50:35

-isn't it?

-Yes.

-It is that sound.

0:50:350:50:37

And that's the sound which Rossini sends up

0:50:370:50:40

in a well-known duet for sopranos, where they sing like cats.

0:50:400:50:44

And that's what we've got...

0:50:440:50:46

-I see!

-..on the rim of every single plate -

0:50:460:50:49

-cats forming the notes of this piece of music.

-Ah!

0:50:490:50:54

Yes? It's in 6/8 time.

0:50:540:50:57

-All these cats...

-Oh, that's the story.

0:50:570:50:59

Well, it's very much in that satirical vein.

0:50:590:51:03

The Rossini Cat Duet.

0:51:030:51:06

I'm not going to attempt it, but it does sound like Peking Opera,

0:51:060:51:10

-I have to tell you.

-OK.

0:51:100:51:11

-Yeah.

-So, these are beautifully printed.

0:51:110:51:14

At the centre of each, there is a conductor.

0:51:140:51:17

I think there's a touch of the Franz Liszt about him.

0:51:170:51:20

He has that wild look.

0:51:200:51:22

We go through all the various movements and styles of music.

0:51:220:51:27

So, we start off "in dolce", which means sweetly.

0:51:270:51:30

"Grave", which means serious,

0:51:300:51:33

and "largo", which is slow.

0:51:330:51:35

-I see.

-We go through all these musical moods and we end up with...

0:51:350:51:39

Sadness.

0:51:390:51:41

It's not sadness.

0:51:420:51:44

Well, it is sadness, you're absolutely right.

0:51:440:51:47

Cos the only broken plate is the last movement.

0:51:470:51:51

-OK.

-"Morendo".

0:51:510:51:53

-Morendo.

-Dying.

0:51:530:51:56

-Oh!

-This plate has died.

0:51:560:51:57

It is an ex-plate.

0:51:570:52:00

It has been smashed.

0:52:010:52:03

After a whole 12 movements of musical performance,

0:52:030:52:07

it's the last one to go.

0:52:070:52:09

Anyway... Date?

0:52:090:52:11

Probably somewhere between 1850 and 1870.

0:52:120:52:16

OK. Yes.

0:52:160:52:17

A very, very nice set.

0:52:170:52:19

Very rare. Transfer printing in colours.

0:52:190:52:22

I suppose we ought to compose some sort of a value for you.

0:52:220:52:25

-Yes.

-A musician would really like to own these and I would have thought

0:52:250:52:30

they might pay in the region of £300 to £500 for them.

0:52:300:52:33

-Yeah. OK. Yes.

-And the piece they may have had in mind,

0:52:330:52:37

when they put the cats on the staves, goes something like this.

0:52:370:52:41

# Meow

0:52:410:52:44

-# Meow

-Meow

0:52:440:52:47

# Meow. #

0:52:470:52:52

I'm a good student.

0:52:550:52:57

Well, you've brought me the most marvellous, slinky malinky,

0:53:040:53:08

diamond and platinum bracelet.

0:53:080:53:10

Now, how did it come to you?

0:53:100:53:11

I inherited it from my mother-in-law.

0:53:110:53:13

It was bought to her by her husband, who may have got it in an auction.

0:53:130:53:16

He travelled a lot around the world,

0:53:160:53:18

so he may have purchased it anywhere on his travels.

0:53:180:53:21

And, were you startled when you saw it?

0:53:210:53:24

Yeah. I was startled that it was going to come to me.

0:53:240:53:27

Well, I've no idea about the age of everybody in the family

0:53:270:53:30

but I think there's another ghost here.

0:53:300:53:32

I think this is the ghost of a marvellous lady

0:53:320:53:35

living in the Art Deco style,

0:53:350:53:37

with a silk dress, perhaps with a geometric pattern to it,

0:53:370:53:41

shot with green and blue silk.

0:53:410:53:44

She gets out of a motor car, in the Place Vendome,

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that's lined with maple wood, with a chauffeur,

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and chooses, or at least hints, that that's what she wants.

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And then her husband comes along and says he's going to buy it for her.

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And he buys it as a caprice. It's not an investment,

0:53:570:54:00

it's simply part of the most astonishing arrangement, really,

0:54:000:54:04

the last-gasp of luxury at that level, really.

0:54:040:54:07

We never saw it again after the Second World War.

0:54:070:54:10

This was bought for sheer pleasure,

0:54:100:54:12

to wear at some fantastic reception in Paris in 1927,

0:54:120:54:16

and we don't know this ghost.

0:54:160:54:18

This may be the only evidence we can ever hope to claw her back.

0:54:180:54:22

It's platinum, and it's set with

0:54:220:54:24

all manner of different cuts of diamonds,

0:54:240:54:27

mainly brilliants, and square-cut diamonds here.

0:54:270:54:30

I think we can safely give this the label which is often misused,

0:54:300:54:35

of being Art Deco.

0:54:350:54:36

-Yeah.

-That implies it's made between 1927 and the early 1930s.

0:54:360:54:42

The reason we can see this - and you almost have to trust me for this -

0:54:420:54:46

is there are little references,

0:54:460:54:48

not only to geometry,

0:54:480:54:49

but also to Chinese works of art.

0:54:490:54:52

And they lie here with these circular discs.

0:54:520:54:55

This is a progression of design

0:54:550:54:57

that we see in the greatest jewellery houses of the world.

0:54:570:55:01

And I think this is of sufficient quality

0:55:010:55:04

to attribute it to such a jewellery house.

0:55:040:55:07

It's combined with very rich, intrinsic value.

0:55:070:55:11

We have six, considerably large, brilliant diamonds in here.

0:55:110:55:15

And this is rather like a sort of collision

0:55:150:55:19

of art and intrinsic value.

0:55:190:55:21

There's almost an atomic explosion as they crash together

0:55:210:55:24

because this is what everybody wants.

0:55:240:55:26

It's of a scale that everybody wants.

0:55:260:55:29

It's enviable, and with all of that comes huge excitement.

0:55:290:55:33

I don't know about you, but I'm nearly fainting.

0:55:330:55:36

-Yes.

-Yes, you are.

0:55:360:55:37

I had a chance to look at it earlier

0:55:370:55:40

and I combed it all over for a signature

0:55:400:55:42

over a number of Parisian jewellers.

0:55:420:55:45

So, I might have liked it if it said Cartier, Van Cleef & Arpels,

0:55:450:55:49

or particularly Boucheron, who I sense actually made this jewel.

0:55:490:55:53

I did look very hard for these engraved signatures,

0:55:530:55:56

I didn't find them. What I did find

0:55:560:55:58

was that it had little guarantee marks for platinum on the side,

0:55:580:56:02

a little wolf's head, and then a maker's mark,

0:56:020:56:05

not a retailer's mark, which, in a lozenge mark,

0:56:050:56:08

which actually rather rubbed.

0:56:080:56:10

Unfortunately, I can't make any sense of that.

0:56:100:56:12

So, we've slightly lost height in not being able to pin its provenance

0:56:120:56:16

down to a specific, Art Deco, Parisian jeweller,

0:56:160:56:20

but we can see it's of the finest possible quality.

0:56:200:56:23

I'm sure that if you wanted to buy it,

0:56:230:56:26

in any distinguished jewellery shop, anywhere in the world,

0:56:260:56:29

you would have to pay £150,000.

0:56:290:56:32

GASPS

0:56:320:56:34

Oh, my God!

0:56:340:56:36

That's amazing.

0:56:380:56:40

Thank you.

0:56:440:56:46

Oh, darling! We're both going to cry.

0:56:460:56:49

That's unbelievable.

0:56:490:56:51

I could buy a Bentley now.

0:56:510:56:54

Could.

0:56:540:56:55

-Thank you.

-No - thank you.

0:56:550:56:57

Set me off now, you silly old thing.

0:56:570:56:59

Ah!

0:56:590:57:01

That was a really emotional moment, wasn't it?

0:57:070:57:09

That lady clearly wasn't expecting that valuation at all.

0:57:090:57:13

Such beautiful diamonds.

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So, we love to see you on the Antiques Roadshow.

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From all of us here at Senate House in London, until next time, bye-bye.

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