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We're on the south coast in Bexhill-on-Sea. It's got all you'd want from a seaside resort -

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the beach huts, the spectacular views, the sunshine,

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the promenade, a stick of rock if you fancy it,

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but none of those are the main attraction today because we are in town. Welcome to Flog It!

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With many seaside towns located on the south-east coast,

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it's no surprise they were favourites with the Victorians and the Edwardians.

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Even today, they still retain much of their original charm and style. And Bexhill-on-Sea is no exception.

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Like any seaside town worth its salt, Bexhill has a pavilion

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and a rather splendid one.

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It was opened in 1935 and was the dream of the 9th Earl De La Warr.

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It's the first Modernist building in Britain, built using different techniques and materials.

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It's called the De La Warr Pavilion. I'm now at the front of the queue.

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Our experts are looking for the best antiques to take off to auction.

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Hoping to spot a dream item are lead experts Michael Baggott...

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We may bring the gin out at about two o'clock. Hang around. I'll be looking for you then.

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And David Fletcher...

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-Walking sticks, OK. Do you do a lot of walking?

-Well...

-No.

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And to help our experts out, we've got a couple of basset hounds to sniff out the real gems.

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-So are you all ready to go inside, everybody?

-Yes!

-Come on then.

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Amongst all these bags and boxes, there is sure to be something with a good pedigree.

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Provenance or a good brand name is so important when valuing antiques,

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but are the following all they claim to be?

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This Mappin & Webb silver bowl,

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this painting by G Dillon

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or this jumbo Dunhill lighter.

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The answer isn't as easy as you think. We'll reveal all later,

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but first, let's get valuing and we start with David Fletcher.

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-Hello, Dylan.

-Hello there.

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What can you tell me about your clock?

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Well, I like it very much. We think it's '20s or '30s.

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I bought it in a jumble sale in North London just before my children were born.

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We had a lot of fun with it. It helped teaching them to read the time.

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They liked to read the lettering. We went through the story on it. Paid a shilling.

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-OK. Of course, it wasn't new then.

-No.

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It would have been made, I think, as you suggest, probably in the 1920s or 1930s.

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More likely the 1930s, I think.

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-It's in the High Art Deco style.

-Yes.

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It's interesting that you should have brought this to us here today

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because the building we're in, the De La Warr Pavilion, is a classic Art Deco or Modern Movement building

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and this is very much of the same time with the same characteristics.

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-Yeah.

-I love this very simple lettering.

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It was a lot of the simplicity in the design that I was attracted to.

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It's obviously made for a nursery. It has a nursery rhyme on it - Old Mother Hubbard.

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We all know the rhyme, so I won't repeat it.

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Underneath the figure 6 is the word "foreign".

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"Foreign", that's right.

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And I think that suggests that the case itself, which is china, would have been made in Germany.

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-Yes, I agree.

-We'll have a quick look at the movement.

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Which I'm afraid is not going.

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It's a very simple movement operated on this main spring here.

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-No bells and whistles, probably French.

-Yeah.

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But it does the job.

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-Now, we need to discuss its value, really. Have you any thoughts on what it might be worth?

-Not really.

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-But I know what I would like as a return.

-What would you like? You're a very shrewd businesswoman.

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I would like at least a minimum of £50.

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I thought you were going to say 500! I think we're in the same area.

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It's got all those characteristics we discussed,

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but above all, it's in the Art Deco style and it speaks of its period.

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For all those reasons, I think someone will give us £50 for it.

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-Right.

-So I'm happy to go with a £50 to £80 estimate.

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-Right, that's good.

-And you'd like a reserve putting on it, presumably?

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-I think I would.

-£50?

-A £50 reserve would be good.

-We're in agreement.

-Yes.

-Shake on that. OK...

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So an item that's a bit different and quite charming to start us off.

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However, Michael has spotted something a bit more grown-up.

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Margaret, you've brought my favourite thing - silver spoons.

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They're lovely in their case. Where did you get them?

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I know very little about them. My mother gave them to me.

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She had been given them by an elderly neighbour.

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I was going to say - we've got the maker's name here.

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That's Sverre Nielsen, Oslo. There isn't a Norwegian connection?

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-No, but she was a great traveller.

-Ah! She may have picked them up in Norway and brought them back.

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Because they're Norwegian, they don't have a date letter code struck on them.

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You do see these predominantly from about 1925 up to about 1935.

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But what I haven't seen before and what is wonderful are the different scenes on the reverse of the bowls.

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-They're beautiful, aren't they?

-They're Norwegian scenes, pure Norwegian.

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We've got sort of a winter Alpine scape.

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We've got a chap going along on a reindeer,

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the Viking ship, of course.

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The lovely thing about these is the bowls have first been engine-turned,

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-so they've got this lovely pattern and very bright silver.

-Yeah.

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They are breathtakingly beautiful.

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-Why have you decided to bring them in to Flog It?

-They sit in a drawer.

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-Although they're very pretty, I don't have any emotional attachment to them.

-There, you see.

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I'm an odd person. I would have them in a drawer and occasionally look at them. That would be enough for me.

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The value isn't great, but if I put it in perspective and say,

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were these a set of six English coffee spoons,

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fully hallmarked in sterling silver, they might be £25.

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-All right.

-But I think these are so attractive,

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I'm going to break all boundaries on coffee spoons

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-and say they've got to be £120 to £180.

-Wow!

-If you're happy, we'll put a fixed reserve of that on them.

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We'll take them along to the auction where everyone will disagree with me, but we'll give them a go.

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For me, there's always a surprise at every valuation day and today, I've come across this.

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It's a box, but it's not full of paperwork.

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It's full of the French army...

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circa early 1800s, fighting the Battle of Waterloo.

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Here's the French artillery.

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They're lead soldiers, hand-painted. It brings back lots of memories

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because I used to collect lead soldiers and paint them by hand.

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I belonged to the Kingston Military Modelling Society when I was 15

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and I played war games with these old colonel types. Aren't they beautiful?

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I love finding items like that, but right now, let's get back to the valuations.

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-Hello, Tracy.

-Yes.

-And Amy?

-Hi.

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This is amazing. I love it.

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I saw you standing in the queue with a collection of walking sticks.

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This one caught my eye. I was amazed to see it really

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because I work and live in Bedford

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and this is signed or at least it has the inscription,

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"JP White of Bedford".

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JP White was a very well-known Bedford person.

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-We didn't even know it was on there, did we?

-No.

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Why would you? I'm making a massive assumption and that assumption is that this is the same JP White.

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He was a furniture designer and cabinet maker who was born in, I think, 1855.

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-Oh.

-And he set up a works in Bedford called the Pyghtle Works in 1896.

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The inscription is on a silver band

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and the silver band is hallmarked "Birmingham, 1905".

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-Oh, right.

-I am so tempted to say that this belonged to that JP White.

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-It would be good if it is.

-Of course, I can't prove it.

-No.

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But to anyone interested in furniture history, this is a piece of wooden gold dust.

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It's fascinating. What do you think the handle is made of?

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-We didn't know what that was. It's not amber.

-It's not any form of stone.

-I don't know either.

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I think amber is a good shout and I think it's meant to simulate amber.

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-It's more resin.

-Exactly. It's a resin or a composition material.

-That's what I thought.

-Yeah.

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So, as I say, this caught my eye and I so hope that I've made the right connection.

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-I could be barking up completely the wrong tree. So you're happy to sell it?

-Yes, we are.

-Yeah.

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-Now, I think we've got to keep our expectations low.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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So I would suggest a "come and get me" estimate, really, of £20 to £30.

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-Right.

-And a covering reserve of £20.

-That's good.

-I wouldn't like to see it given away.

-No.

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It's a Bedford walking stick, I'm a Bedford man, I'm feeling tired.

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-I'll walk off and get a cup of tea and a biscuit. See you at the sale.

-Thank you.

-Bye-bye.

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Well, the day's hardly started, David! But while you take a break, we'll soldier on.

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Helen and John, thank you for bringing in this wonderful, wonderful jug.

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How did you acquire it? Was it passed down through the family?

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No, it was left to me by an old lady I befriended.

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She lived next door to me and when she died, she left me her cottage and all the contents.

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The jug was one of the things in the cottage.

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That's fantastic. Was it a particular favourite of yours?

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Not really. I didn't think much about it at all.

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-That's just been on the landing, on a chest of drawers for all these years.

-How do you feel about it, John?

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Well, I like it because of the military history.

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I quite like military history.

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I thought this was the Battle of Sevastopol. It has the redan and the fortifications.

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We've got the widows on this side

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with "Royal Patriotic Fund".

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But there we've got the scene of battle.

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You've researched all that, so it's Sevastopol in the Crimean War.

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The Crimean War, 1854, and there's a small date on the bottom that says "1855".

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-We'll have to look at that now.

-It's very small.

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-We've got almost everything we need to know.

-Yes.

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"The Royal Patriotic Jug.

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"Published by Samuel Alcock & Company."

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They were great potters in Stoke and specialised in transfer-printing.

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And we've got the date. I wish everything was this accommodating!

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"January 1st, 1855."

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And we've even got here the designer.

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So we've got this wonderful scene, albeit sad,

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-but it is to elicit sympathy, isn't it?

-Yes.

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You've got a particular interest in this because of your profession?

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My profession... I'm a potter.

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I taught pottery at the local art school for 25, 30 years, at Eastbourne.

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And so as a technical piece, it's wonderful.

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-You can see its cast down here. You can see the seam lines.

-You can.

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It has this soft gold and this beautifully soft, modulated, decorative rim here,

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so it's a real exemplar of its kind and I loved it.

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-So marks out of ten?

-It ticks all the boxes, so I think it's a ten out of ten number for...

-It's a ten.

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That's from a pottery tutor. You can't get any better than that.

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We'll have to have you do all our pots in future!

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It is a super thing. So if it goes up at auction, John, will we not see you and you'll be at the back,

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trying to buy it back?

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-I don't think so.

-We have bid against each other.

-We have in the past.

-Have you?

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That's fraught with difficulties. Always stay together at an auction.

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An early flirt with divorce.

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-Any ideas what it's worth?

-Well, I thought it was less than £100.

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Wallet, wallet. Wallet, chequebook, it's in here somewhere.

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I mean, I'm not a potaholic

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and I prefer 18th century to 19th century,

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but this does it all for me. I think this is a fabulous jug.

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The military connections help enormously as well.

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-Let's put it in at £300 to £500.

-Wow!

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Put a fixed reserve of £300 on it. If it doesn't make that, put it back on the dresser.

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-Are you happy to sell it?

-Yes.

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-It won't lead to the potential for a divorce?

-We're both happy.

-My wife tells me I'm happy.

-Both smiling.

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That's great. That's good enough for me. Thank you very much for bringing it in.

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And it's good enough for me.

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We've got four items to take off to the saleroom and here's a quick reminder of what they are.

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David found that the cupboard certainly wasn't bare when he found this Art Deco children's clock.

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Michael spotted six silver spoons with the most wonderful, enamelled Nordic scenes.

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Suave and sophisticated, David found the quintessential gentleman's accessory,

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a lovely rosewood walking cane.

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And finally, Michael went potty for this patriotic jug,

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commemorating the Crimean War.

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It's a short trip along the coastline from one seaside town to another.

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That's the moment we've been waiting for. It is sale day today at the Eastbourne Auction Rooms.

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Let's get inside and catch up with our owners. Hopefully, we're going to have a few surprises.

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'The place is packed and taking to the rostrum today

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'is auctioneer Paul Achilleous.

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'It's back to the nursery with our first lot, Dylan's Art Deco Old Mother Hubbard clock.'

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Not a lot of money. I think this one could fly away, Dylan, hopefully.

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-I hope so.

-And you got this in a jumble sale?

-I did, yes.

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-And all the kids learnt to tell the time from it?

-Yes.

-That's lovely.

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-How much did you pay for it?

-One shilling.

-Well, we're bound to make a profit.

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-It's going under the hammer now. Let's see what the bidders of Eastbourne think.

-Yes.

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Transfer-printed with Old Mother Hubbard scene. Nice one there.

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Due to conflicting bids, we'll start this at £50.

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At 50. 5...

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-We're in at 50.

-Good.

-At £60. I'll take 2 if it helps?

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62. 65. 68. 70. 5.

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80? No, 75 is yours.

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At 75. Anybody else? 80 bid on the internet now.

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Do you want 5 in the room? 85 is bid.

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At 85. 90 on the net. At 90. And 5 in the room.

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-Come on.

-It is a bit of Art Deco.

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-Yes.

-Rounds it off at 100. Is there 10?

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At 110 in the seat. 120, sir? 120. 130, will you...?

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140 now? 130. 140, internet. 150?

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Yes, this is good.

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At 140, selling to the net then...

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£140 and the hammer's gone down!

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-Very good indeed.

-That's more like it. I knew that one would fly.

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-It just had something about it.

-I'm so pleased.

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'And hopefully, it'll teach another generation to tell the time.

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'Next up, Margaret's silver spoons.'

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It's a packed saleroom. It's a good time to sell silver.

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At 120 to 180, they're there to be bought - £20 each.

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You've heard what our experts have had to say. Let's find out what the bidders think, shall we?

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It's down to them. Good luck.

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And where are we here? Who's got £80 to start those?

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Can I see 80 for those? 80 bid on the net. And 5.

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90? At £85. 90 is bid.

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And 5. 100, sir.

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-110 bid.

-Easily...

-120 now?

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At 110 only. At 110. Is there 20?

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At £110 only. 120 anywhere else? 120 is bid now.

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Is there 30? At 120 only. Anybody else then? At 120.

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All done and I sell it on that bid of 120 now...?

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£120. Happy?

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-Yeah, that's OK.

-It could have done a bit more.

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-It could have done a bit more.

-I'd have gone 130, 140, 150...

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They were beautiful, but they're of a period and style that people don't collect yet.

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-If you've got a spare £120...

-That was a bargain.

-..buy those spoons.

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Not for now, but in 10, 15, 20 years' time

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because the quality is there, that's the most important thing.

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'Well, someone did get a bargain, but that's the gamble of the saleroom.

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'It's Amy and Tracy's walking cane next.'

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And I can see, Amy, a bidding card. Look at this. Let's take a look at the number.

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We are selling a walking cane, yet I know there are a lot in the saleroom.

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-You want to now buy some more?

-Yes.

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-I thought we'd broken you of the habit.

-No.

-It gets under your skin, this collecting thing.

-I love it.

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-We both do.

-Yeah.

-I know what it's like.

-This is a nice one.

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It's of particular interest to me because it bears the name "JP White"

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who is a very well-known furniture designer. He had his own manufacturing works in Bedford.

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-Let's hope there are Bedford bidders online.

-We'll find out now.

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You have the rosewood walking cane,

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the floral, embossed silver collar, engraved "JP White, Bedford".

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Again an unusual one there.

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And double bids here. We start at 50 and 5 and 60's bid.

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At £60. I'll take 5 from you?

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5. 70. 5. 80. At £80.

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Anybody else then? 5.

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90. 5. 95 it is.

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At 95. 100? Anybody else coming in? Are we all done on that bid...?

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The hammer's gone down, sold. You were spot-on with your enthusiasm.

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-I feel very proud of my home town.

-That is a lot more.

-Fantastic.

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-£95.

-That's really good.

-Shopping money?

-Yes!

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-We're going to spend it straight away!

-These girls can shop!

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'I love results like that and they say you've got to speculate to accumulate.

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'And I know that's just what Amy and Tracy will do.'

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We've got a Royal Patriotic Jug just about to go under the hammer.

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It's a bit of Crimean War memorabilia. Very important time in our history. Hello, John, Helen.

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-We've been joined by Michael.

-I fell in love with this. I saw it at a distance.

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I might have over-egged it, but it's super. It deserves to make that money.

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-I'm sure it's worth £300. Let's find out what the bidders think, shall we?

-Yes.

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It is all down to the bidders. Let's find out what it's worth. It's going under the hammer now.

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Royal Patriotic Jug with a transfer-printed decoration,

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commemorating the Crimean War.

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We'll start at 150 here with me.

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At 150. Is there 160 anywhere? At 150 only.

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160's bid on the net. 170, is it?

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170's bid. 180, is it?

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170 has it. At 180 on the net now. At 180.

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190 it is. At 190. 200, is it, on the net?

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At 190. 200 is bid. At 200.

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220 I'm bid. At 220. 240, is it?

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At 220 now. 240 I'll take? 240 on the net.

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At 260 in the room. At 260. 280 do I see?

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At £260. Is there 80 anywhere? At £260 only. Anybody else at 260?

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-At £260 now. Are you all done?

-Where are those hands?

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280 back in on the net. At £280.

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It's on the internet at £280.

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I'll take a chance and sell it at £280. Is there 300 anywhere?

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-At £280 anywhere else?

-He'll sell it. Sensible decision.

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280 then. On the net then at 280 and I sell it...

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-He's sold it. Is that OK?

-Yeah.

-Just below.

-Well, OK.

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If I tell you that's more than I think any Alcock jug has ever made, that's quite a good result.

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-That's fine.

-Are you happy with that?

-Yeah.

-I think we're happy with that.

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The auctioneer used his discretion. I know we didn't have a 10% discretion on it, but he took that.

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Now, that was close!

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That concludes our first visit to the auction room today. We are coming back for more action later.

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All the antiques and collectables we've seen so far are a tangible and tactile link to the past,

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but I'm going to take it even further back in time.

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I'm sure this will jog some memories from school history lessons.

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Over the years on the show, I've got quite used to visiting Grade One listed buildings,

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but today, I'm actually visiting a battlefield -

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one of 43 battlefields that are now protected by English Heritage.

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Arguably, the field I'm standing in is the most significant battlefield this country has ever seen

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because 1,000 years ago, two great armies clashed against each other - the Normans and the Anglo-Saxons.

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And the outcome would change the face of Britain for ever.

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And the year was 1066.

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The battle only lasted one day, but it was an epic.

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It was the largest, closest-fought battle in Medieval Britain

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and became the most famous battle in English history. I am, of course, talking of the Battle of Hastings.

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It all began with the death of Edward the Confessor.

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The Bayeux Tapestry depicts Edward on his deathbed, pointing to Harold Godwinson,

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entrusting England to his care.

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However, there was another claimant to the English throne - William, Duke of Normandy.

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When Duke William heard that Harold, in his view, had seized the crown, he was absolutely furious.

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William's claim rested on the spurious premise that Edward had offered him the throne

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and that Harold had sworn under duress to accept William as king.

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However, this didn't bother William. He was an arch opportunist.

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He thought he had right on his side and the endorsement of the Pope,

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so he decided to avenge with arms.

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While William waited with his ships and men for favourable winds to England,

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King Harold had his own problems - he was being invaded by Vikings.

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They'd landed on the north-east coast and overrun the city of York.

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Harold reacted quickly, marching his troops 200 miles from London to Stamford Bridge in five days.

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The battle was fierce, but decisive. Harold was triumphant.

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Meanwhile, on the coast of France, the Normans were on their way.

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Carried by a favourable breeze, they landed on the south coast and, with Harold's army up in the north,

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they met no resistance. But King Harold soon marched south to confront the Normans.

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Although the Normans were seasoned fighters, they were about to face an army as large as their own,

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some 5,000-7,000 strong.

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When William heard that Harold's men were camped six miles north of Hastings,

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he marched his troops to confront them. Right here where I'm standing.

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I wonder what went through their minds when those two armies met

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on that Saturday, 14th of October, 1066.

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Each side arranged their battle formation. William had footsoldiers in front with arrows and crossbows,

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with more powerful footsoldiers in the second rank, wearing chain mail.

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Finally, William himself rode with the cavalry of knights.

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Harold drew up his army taking the high ground.

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His formation was very different as the English fought on foot.

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His men were already exhausted after two forced marches and a major battle,

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so Harold had no choice but to fight defensively, forming a shield wall,

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as he waited for reinforcements to swell his ranks.

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When the order for battle was given, the English army were here and the Normans down there

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on the lower ground.

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They took the initiative and advanced.

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The English hurled all manner of missiles down upon them,

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but again and again the Normans came back, wave after wave.

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But they couldn't penetrate this solid shield wall. It was the most marvellous form of defence.

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The Normans failed to break the English shield wall and it struck fear into William's footsoldiers.

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Terrified by this ferocity and facing an extremely steep slope,

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William's Bretons to the left of the battle line turned and retreated.

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Some of the English broke ranks to pursue them, only to be cut down and slaughtered

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when they found themselves isolated from the main English force.

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As the battle went on, no side was giving any quarter.

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Confusion and alarm rose amongst the Normans when one of William's horses was killed

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and it was assumed William was, too.

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But he wasn't. He rushed towards his men, took his helmet off, held his head up high and said,

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"Look! I am alive and, with God's help, I shall conquer!"

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By early afternoon, both sides had been fighting continuously for hours at full pelt.

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Already hundreds of men had died when William had an idea.

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Seeing that the English had been lured from the shield wall earlier, when his left flank had turned tail,

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he staged fake retreats. They'd be chased, then wheel around and slaughter their pursuers.

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The plan worked, but it didn't thin out the English army enough.

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With light beginning to fade, William made one final push.

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He ordered his bowmen to fire their arrows high into the air so they rained down on the English.

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What happens next is one of the most famous moments in British history.

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An arrow seemed to strike King Harold. Legend has it it hit him in the eye.

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Finally, the English wall had broken. The Normans found Harold and hacked him down.

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So it was all over. Harold, the last Anglo-Saxon king, was dead.

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This stone marks the spot where he's thought to have fallen.

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William, Duke of Normandy, was now King of England.

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To commemorate those who fell and his victory, he built an abbey here on this site on the battlefield.

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Just standing here today, it's really thought-provoking to think

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of the thousands of men who died in a fierce battle on that one day.

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It's a battleground that's not only infamous,

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but which has brought about the biggest political and cultural upheaval in a thousand years.

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For that reason alone, this site is well worth protecting.

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So time to forward wind and travel a few miles back to our valuation day in Bexhill-on-Sea.

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We're still battling to get through as many valuations as possible.

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It's Michael who triumphs first.

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Ella, thank you for bringing in this stunning little cup.

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-Can you tell me how did you acquire it?

-It was given to my husband I think in the '60s.

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Before I knew him. His boss was Jewish, the story goes,

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and it belonged to his daughter and my husband said it was

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the equivalent of a Bar Mitzvah cup, only for the daughter.

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-She married out of the faith, he got rid of all her things and gave that to my husband.

-Good grief.

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It's interesting that you say it was the equivalent of a Bar Mitzvah.

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You get a lot of secular items produced

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that are then purchased and might have an inscription in Hebrew, to be used as a Kiddush cup

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or a ceremonial vessel.

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Certainly all British silver should have a hallmark on it.

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-We've got the maker's mark. M&W.

-Mappin and Webb.

-You can work that out.

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We've also got the Sheffield town mark and we've got the date letter for 1904.

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So we're slap bang in the middle of the reign of Edward VII,

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but more importantly we're in the crucible of English Art Nouveau.

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You've got this hammer finish or planishing. This was introduced, this finish,

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by people like the Guild of Handicraft.

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They would finish everything and hand work it, so it would have all these dimples.

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Ironically, because it was so popular, firms like Mappin's produced wares

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-that were mechanically planished.

-Yes.

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So far from being wrought by hand, it's actually machine-done, but made to look as if it's by hand.

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What certainly does require a great deal of skill is the stem.

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I think it's absolutely wonderful as an example of Art Nouveau silver.

0:31:010:31:05

-Why have you decided to bring it in and part with it today?

-Because I'm getting rid of all my silver

0:31:050:31:11

-and collecting pots because they don't need cleaning.

-Is it a nightmare to polish?

-It is, yes.

0:31:110:31:18

All these little bits here. It was black. I gave it a quick clean this morning to bring it down.

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Right, well.

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I don't think I'd get fed up polishing it if it was mine.

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We have to think in terms of value.

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I think we need to put it into auction for £250-£350.

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It's the nicest cup of its type I've seen.

0:31:400:31:45

-And put a fixed reserve of £250. Is that in line with what you were thinking?

-I had no idea,

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but I'd like somebody to appreciate it who will clean it.

0:31:520:31:56

Well, I'd appreciate it and clean it, but I can't buy it, sadly.

0:31:560:32:01

It's been an absolute joy to see. Thank you for bringing it in.

0:32:010:32:05

I don't blame Ella for not liking all of that polishing - she's not the only one!

0:32:050:32:11

-Hello, Sue.

-Hello.

-This is quite a lighter.

-A bit dirty!

0:32:110:32:15

Well...I was going to say you could have given it a clean!

0:32:150:32:19

But it doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter at all. It's by Dunhill.

0:32:190:32:24

-Yeah.

-It's really, of its type, as good as things get, really.

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You know, if you wanted, in the 1930s when this was made, a top-of-the-range show-off lighter,

0:32:290:32:37

-you bought one of these.

-As early as that?

-Yeah, it dates from the '30s.

0:32:370:32:42

-So does it have a story?

-Not one that I can remember.

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It's been in a drawer for so long, 20 years probably.

0:32:470:32:52

-It could have come from my father, but I really don't know.

-It just sort of appeared one day?

-Yes!

0:32:520:32:59

-Are you going to miss it?

-No.

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I'm not surprised, really. I love these things because they speak of their period,

0:33:020:33:09

they evoke the 1930s. They evoke conspicuous consumption.

0:33:090:33:15

You can imagine a well-to-do chap lighting his cigar from one of those, you know.

0:33:150:33:21

They are high status objects. Have you any idea what it might be worth?

0:33:210:33:27

-I said a fiver!

-A fiver, OK.

0:33:270:33:30

I think it's worth a bit more. I think it's going to make between £60 and £100.

0:33:300:33:36

-That is a surprise.

-Is that good news?

-Yes.

0:33:360:33:40

Very pleased to hear that. I think we should put a reserve on it.

0:33:400:33:44

-Do you?

-Well, what's your view?

-I don't want it.

0:33:440:33:49

-OK, get rid of it.

-Get rid of it.

-We'll sell it without reserve.

0:33:490:33:53

-Yeah.

-Why don't we? It'll make its money.

-You reckon?

0:33:530:33:58

-We'll estimate it at £60-£100. Let's go for it!

-Definitely. Definitely flog it!

0:33:580:34:04

So another item dating to the 1930s, just like our fabulous valuation day pavilion.

0:34:040:34:11

Time for one last valuation now and it might be a bit special.

0:34:110:34:15

Tony, thank you for bringing in this interesting picture today.

0:34:150:34:20

-Is it a family thing?

-No, I bought it at auction

0:34:200:34:24

-about six months ago.

-Oh, recently?

-Yes.

0:34:240:34:29

-Did you buy it because it appealed to you? "I'll put that on my wall."

-Yes, I liked the image. Yes.

0:34:290:34:36

A very naive image, I suppose, of fishermen on a beach.

0:34:360:34:41

So when you bought this, what did they describe it as?

0:34:410:34:45

Just a painting by G Dillon and describing the scene on the picture.

0:34:450:34:50

-It's comprehensive in a way.

-Yes.

0:34:500:34:54

I saw this this morning and I'll be honest - I thought it had a naive charm,

0:34:540:34:59

but I didn't think it was a dramatically important thing,

0:34:590:35:03

-but we have this marvellous process to look up artists' names.

-Yes.

0:35:030:35:08

-G Dillon is Gerard Dillon.

-Yes.

0:35:080:35:10

-He was born in 1916 in Belfast.

-Right.

0:35:100:35:16

-Mainly scenes of solitary men because I don't think he was a terribly happy soul.

-Oh, right.

0:35:160:35:24

We now have a problem, though.

0:35:240:35:27

Is it genuine?

0:35:270:35:29

-I'm not an expert in paintings and I'm certainly not an expert in Gerard Dillon.

-Right.

0:35:300:35:37

But there are people who are experts in Gerard Dillon.

0:35:370:35:41

So now we come down to the most important question of value.

0:35:410:35:47

Yes.

0:35:470:35:49

If it isn't right, you still had a good buy at £50.

0:35:490:35:53

It's a decorative oil painting. It might be worth £100 or £200.

0:35:530:35:58

Good.

0:35:580:36:00

-If it's right...

-Yes.

-..we could put a nought on what you paid.

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-500.

-Right.

0:36:050:36:08

Right, good.

0:36:080:36:10

-But we wouldn't stop there because we'd put another nought on.

-Oh, right.

0:36:100:36:16

A conservative estimate would be £5,000-£10,000.

0:36:160:36:19

-Excellent.

-So if you're happy to leave this with us,

0:36:190:36:25

-we will seek those expert opinions.

-Right.

0:36:250:36:29

And with our fingers crossed and a fair wind,

0:36:290:36:33

we will place it into the auction with a £5,000 reserve, a £5,000-£10,000 estimate,

0:36:330:36:38

-our fingers crossed and we'll see where it ends up.

-Fantastic.

0:36:380:36:44

-Are you happy with all that?

-Certainly!

0:36:440:36:47

-You bought it to go on the wall. You don't want to put it back?

-Not for £5,000!

-Certainly not.

0:36:470:36:53

-Well, we'll see how it turns out.

-Yes.

-As I say, it's 50/50 at the moment.

-Yes.

0:36:530:36:59

But it's really intriguing and this is what the world of antiques is about,

0:36:590:37:05

-investigation and discovery.

-Yes.

-Thank you so much for bringing such an intriguing item along.

0:37:050:37:11

-Thank you!

-There's still a long way to go, but exciting nonetheless.

0:37:110:37:16

That's it. What a marvellous day we've had here. Our experts found some cracking items.

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Now it's over to the auction room and it's time to bid farewell to our wonderful host location,

0:37:220:37:29

the De La Warr Pavilion.

0:37:290:37:31

Michael took a shine to this Mappin and Webb silver bowl.

0:37:310:37:36

David is sure this Dunhill lighter will spark some interest.

0:37:360:37:41

And, finally, subject to additional research, we may have discovered work

0:37:410:37:46

by Irish artist Gerard Dillon.

0:37:460:37:49

So we've moved back up the coast to Eastbourne and we've got some news on Tony's painting.

0:37:490:37:56

The sale room is still heaving, which can only be a good thing for our lots.

0:37:560:38:02

On the show right now we've got some real quality. We've got Ella.

0:38:040:38:08

Quality! Look at you!

0:38:080:38:10

And I knew I could put you with this Art Nouveau silver bowl.

0:38:100:38:15

You can almost place owners with their objects. Quality.

0:38:150:38:20

We're looking at £250-£350 on a good day.

0:38:200:38:23

It's a regular name, but the quality is exceptional. It's really a little masterpiece.

0:38:230:38:30

I think we'll have a buyer for this. Do you know that? I think we will.

0:38:300:38:36

Going under the hammer right now.

0:38:360:38:38

The Mappin and Webb Art Nouveau silver bowl with naturalistic stem and planish decoration.

0:38:380:38:44

It's Sheffield 1904-05.

0:38:440:38:47

There it is. With me at 160.

0:38:470:38:50

I'll take 70 from you. At 170. It's bid on the 'net. 180?

0:38:500:38:55

-We want to see more than that.

-At 180. Is there 90?

0:38:550:38:59

-Oh, come on!

-180. 190. 200 now.

0:38:590:39:02

-You have to see past the weight of it to the quality.

-220 bid. 220.

0:39:020:39:06

-At 220. 230 do I see?

-This is more like it.

-At 220 only.

0:39:060:39:11

Sounds cheap to me. 30 anywhere?

0:39:110:39:14

At £220 only. All gone on that bid of 220?

0:39:140:39:18

Selling it... I'm not selling it, actually!

0:39:180:39:22

230 I'll take. It's not being sold at 220.

0:39:220:39:26

Gosh, I can't believe that. Just shy. Two more bids.

0:39:260:39:30

-Literally.

-I'm glad it didn't go at the bottom end. It was worth more than that.

-It's a shame.

0:39:300:39:38

Ella, I'm ever so sorry. I feel like we've let you down, but we protected it with a reserve.

0:39:380:39:44

-If you put anything into auction, stick a reserve on it.

-Yes.

0:39:440:39:48

-It's going home.

-Yes.

-You'll maybe have to put it in another sale room, maybe in six months' time.

0:39:480:39:56

So you win some, you lose some. Hopefully, our next lot will set the bidders on fire.

0:39:560:40:03

It's Sue's Dunhill lighter.

0:40:030:40:05

-I like the fact that it's all tarnished, as if it was covered in oil.

-It's filthy!

0:40:050:40:11

-But that's its charm.

-It's patinated with age, Sue!

-Yeah!

0:40:110:40:15

It's got character, personality. Everything's going for it.

0:40:150:40:19

-Whoever buys it will keep it like it is.

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:40:190:40:23

And it's not a great deal of money. We're only looking at £60-£80, which is nothing for a Dunhill.

0:40:230:40:29

Let's hope we can top £100.

0:40:290:40:32

The Dunhill silver-plated jumbo lighter. Nice thing.

0:40:320:40:37

What a nice one it is, too. I'll start this at £40

0:40:370:40:42

and I'll take 5 from you.

0:40:420:40:44

At £40. Is there 5? 45 on the internet. 50. And 5.

0:40:440:40:48

60. 60.

0:40:480:40:50

At £60 I've taken in the room.

0:40:500:40:53

£60 in the room. 5 on the 'net?

0:40:530:40:55

At £60. Double bids there. One on the internet, one in the room.

0:40:550:41:00

-The bid is in the room at £60.

-Spot on estimate.

0:41:000:41:04

65, back in on the internet. At 65.

0:41:040:41:07

Try one more. 70 it is. At £70 in the room.

0:41:070:41:12

Two people now getting stuck in. This is what auctions are about.

0:41:120:41:16

Fair warning on the internet. I sell it, room bidder, on 70.

0:41:160:41:20

Those two last bids took it up to a respectable £70.

0:41:200:41:25

-A respectable £70.

-Very nice.

-Well summed up, Paul.

0:41:250:41:28

It's time to reveal if Tony's painting IS actually by Irish artist Gerard Dillon.

0:41:280:41:35

I've certainly been looking forward to this one for quite some time.

0:41:350:41:40

This is where it's opinion versus opinion. Is it or is it not G Dillon, the Irish artist?

0:41:400:41:47

-I've just been joined by Tony.

-Hello.

-We'd like to think it was. We sent it off to Bonhams.

0:41:470:41:55

And, in their opinion, it's not by the Irish artist G Dillon.

0:41:550:42:01

-They even sent it to a lady in Ireland who is writing a book...

-On G Dillon.

0:42:010:42:07

She knows the family very well and, in their opinion, it's not.

0:42:070:42:11

This is the most important thing. On the day, I didn't know.

0:42:110:42:15

-I'm not a specialist in that.

-Tony, we have to be seen to be doing the best.

0:42:150:42:21

-We sent it to the best in the country and, in their opinion...

-It's not..

0:42:210:42:26

But it's here today and now it gets interesting.

0:42:260:42:30

-Everybody has their own opinion.

-Yes.

-We only need two people who feel that it's right,

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right enough for them to bid, and we could see a very handsome return on your money.

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I think we leave this to our bidders in the room. Let's find out exactly what this is worth right now.

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G Dillon. Figures carrying a boat, by the look of it.

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-240 I'm bid. I'll take 50.

-Good grief.

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-240. 250. 260 with me.

-Straight in at 240.

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260 on commission. I'll take 70.

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-270. I'm out.

-Someone's having a go.

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Is there 80? 270 it is. 280. 290.

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-You're in!

-320.

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340. 360.

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-Great.

-380. 400.

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420?

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No, 400 has it. At £400. I'll sell it on that bid, then.

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Are we all done at 400?

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-He's sold it at £400.

-Wow. Fantastic.

-Well, I never.

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-Someone's taking a gamble. Two or three people were prepared to. You must be delighted.

-Thrilled!

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Considering you just bought it down the road. There you go.

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You can never predict an auction.

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We've had a fabulous day here. I know Tony's made up - he's made a big profit.

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Hope you enjoyed our surprises. Cheerio.

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