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Today, we're at the Oxford Union,

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one of the oldest debating chambers in the world.

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It occupies a unique place in world politics.

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It was here in 1979

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that Richard Nixon gave his first speech after Watergate.

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He admitted, "I screwed up and I've paid the price."

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Let's hope our experts are on the game today. Welcome to "Flog It!"

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The Oxford Union was created in 1823

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in response to the University's ban

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on any discussion of politics or religion.

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And since then, the union has gained a worldwide reputation

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as a place where no topic is out of bounds, no matter how controversial.

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One of the most famous names to address the chamber is Malcolm X.

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When a black man strikes back, he's an extremist.

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He's supposed to sit passively and have no feelings,

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be non-violent and love his enemy.

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No matter what kind of attack,

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be it verbal or otherwise, he is supposed to take it.

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The union has also played host to the likes of

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the then President of the USA, Ronald Reagan,

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the Dalai Lama and even Mother Teresa - hark at us,

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rubbing shoulders with the great and the good!

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It all starts right here, the door to the famous chamber.

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Many debates have been won or lost over this threshold

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and debates are decided by ayes to the left and noes to the right.

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Now, I wonder if our experts will be using this as a system

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to decide what goes off to auction?

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Stimulating the debate today are two people hoping to

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outdo each other on the antiques front. Mr Will Axon...

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-What have you brought along today?

-A bracelet.

-She brought you along?

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-Oi!

-Thank you.

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-..and Christina Trevanion.

-They are gorgeous.

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-And where did they come from?

-Admirers in the past.

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Oh, I wish I had admirers like that, who'd shower me with opals.

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A long time ago now.

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They're trawling the queue for antiques, unusual and elaborate.

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-Oh, that's rather pretty.

-Christina, what have you found there?

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-It's mine!

-Where's my stickers?

-No, I've already done it.

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Oh, look, she's already been marked.

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So, without further ado, let's get everybody in.

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I'm standing in the same spot where famous names such as Malcolm X

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and Winston Churchill addressed this chamber.

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We've got a packed show ahead, so...let the debate commence.

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And coming up on today's show...

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Who have I discovered behind-the-scenes?

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He's instantly recognisable because of his mop of mad hair.

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I love that photograph.

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And whose salacious etchings has Will uncovered?

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It's basically a report on his life of vice and self-destruction

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after inheriting a fortune from his father.

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Now, I'm up here in what's known as the Strangers' Gallery.

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This would have been as far as non-members and ladies

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would have been allowed to go in the old days.

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Talking of ladies, we have the gorgeous Christina,

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who's just below me there.

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And it looks like she's found something incredibly interesting.

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Let's take a closer look.

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We're in one of the most famous debating chambers in the world...

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-Yes.

-..which has seen so many famous faces,

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-and you've brought some more in to us here.

-Yes.

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-Tell me about this - this is your autograph book?

-Yes.

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It came down from my great-uncle, who died a couple of years ago.

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He did all the lighting in the New Theatre round the corner,

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-which is the oldest theatre in Oxford.

-In Oxford? Oh, wow.

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And he worked on a lot of the big productions, setting up

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the lighting for them, for operas and musicals and ballet, you name it.

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He worked long hours.

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Like, eight o'clock in the morning till midnight.

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-So it was more of a lifestyle?

-It was, yeah.

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And this is one of his autograph albums?

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-Yeah.

-I'd imagine you're quite familiar with it.

-Yes.

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-So, this is Ray? That's your uncle?

-That's my great-uncle, yes.

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-And New Theatre, Oxford.

-New Theatre, Oxford, yes.

-Brilliant.

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So, who have we got here?

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That's Coral Browne, who was a famous film star in the '50s.

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-And then we've got...?

-Vincent Price, who she was married to.

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And Vincent Price was in the famous horror films.

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Looking very dapper there, isn't he? Very, very dapper.

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-At the back here, we've got Rex Harrison.

-My Fair Lady, of course.

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And we've got Sean Connery and his first wife, Diane Cilento.

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-And I think she died two years ago.

-Oh, right. Oh, gosh.

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-Oh, gosh, who's this?

-That's Marlene Dietrich.

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Goodness me, that's a good one. That's a very good one.

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-So, really, these look like '60s.

-'60s, '70s, '80s, '90s.

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So, how long was he working there?

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-A long time - 40 years, something like that.

-Goodness me. Wow.

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I have to say, autographs are a bit of a tricky subject to value

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because, unless they are really, really big names

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like The Beatles, they don't command huge prices at auction.

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But it is quite important in the history of the New Theatre.

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This is a record of these people that came and performed.

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Really, I would be looking at offering it somewhere

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-maybe in the region of £60-£100.

-OK.

-Something like that.

-That sounds OK.

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I mean, that would be brilliant, because I wouldn't expect, you know...

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It's very difficult.

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-I know it's packed full of all these wonderful people.

-No, that's brilliant.

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But you have to think, well,

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how much of a market would there be for it?

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So, I think, if we put it at 60-100,

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-it gives it a fighting chance.

-That sounds brilliant.

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I have a feeling that that Bond one, the Sean Connery one, might...

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-Especially since it's 50 years of Bond this year.

-Exactly, yes, exactly.

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This building is no stranger to the A-list.

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Alongside the great and the good, expounding their theories,

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there have been plenty of guests to please the paparazzi.

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Reality TV stars like Katie Price and Kerry Katona,

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right through to amphibians, like Kermit the Frog, who proclaimed

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"If Ronald Reagan can do it, then so can I."

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There's certainly been an eclectic mix here.

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Our very own matinee idol, Will Axon,

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has managed to give the paparazzi the slip

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to meet another Christina in the courtyard.

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From the nice, warm golden plover of the winter sun behind us

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to this nice, warm golden glow on the table.

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It really caught my eye when this came out of your bag.

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Christina, is this something that belongs to you?

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-Or Lydia, is this yours?

-No, it's mine.

-Is it?

-Yes.

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Lydia's just come along for a bit of moral support, has she?

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She has, yes.

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Well, it's a charm bracelet, in gold, of course.

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Mainly nine carat gold, as is common with charms and charm bracelets.

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Does every charm tell a story?

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Do you remember where each one came from?

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Not particularly each one, but a lot of them came from Cornwall.

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-As souvenirs?

-We had holidays there, yes.

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Or, perhaps the odd birthday present, or a Christmas present.

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I always thought that, if you know someone who wore a charm bracelet,

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you knew what to get them for their birthday or Christmas.

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-Exactly, yes.

-But of course, the trouble nowadays is,

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who do you know who does wear a charm bracelet?

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That's it, not very often these days.

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I mean, Lydia, is that something that catches your eye?

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Would you like to wear that?

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-No.

-No?

-Maybe.

-There's some fun charms on here, aren't there?

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-There's a little steam train.

-And then Aladdin.

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-You're right, and Aladdin's lamp.

-And I like the little fishy thing.

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Oh, yes, look here, you've got little fish there as well.

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-And Noah's ark.

-And it opens and you see some things.

-Yeah?

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-The spaceman's legs move.

-Do they?

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-The pump moves.

-The little bellows, you're right.

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Look, they work, the little bellows are working.

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I mean, great fun, really, but in a practical sense,

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it's just not very wearable any more.

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So, you've brought it to "Flog It!"!,

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you obviously want to sell the piece,

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and it's all going to be down to what it weighs.

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It's that sort of scenario, I'm afraid.

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Nine carat as well,

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so it's not going to be as much as if it were a higher grade of gold,

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but I still think you should be looking somewhere in the

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region of say £600-£800,

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which, for a little bracelet that probably sits in a drawer

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-not doing a lot, it's a good amount of cash, isn't it?

-It is.

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So, what's the money going to go towards?

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Divided up between the children and grandchildren.

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-Everyone's going to get a little slice of it?

-Yes.

-Well, I think that's rather nice.

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They'd rather nowadays probably prefer the cash than

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-they would an old charm, wouldn't they?

-Exactly, yeah.

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Will you be able to make the auction, do you think, Lydia?

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-No, because I will be at school.

-Oh, that's true.

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-We'll give you a wave, how's that, when we're at an auction?

-OK.

-OK.

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-It's been a pleasure meeting you both.

-Thank you very much.

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-I'm sure we'll get this away for you.

-OK, thank you.

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# Oxford town, Oxford town

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# Everybody's got their heads bowed down

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# The sun don't shine above the ground

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# Ain't a-going down to Oxford town. #

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And back inside, our very own Christina

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is slightly confused by her next item.

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-So, Hilary?

-Yes, Christina.

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-You've brought us an egg.

-I have. It's a nutmeg grater.

-Ah!

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-Yes.

-So, not an egg.

-It's not an egg from the golden goose.

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-It would be nice, wouldn't it?

-It's a nutmeg grater.

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It's a nutmeg grater. And where's it come from?

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It came from my uncle, and he's quite well known. Well, he was.

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His name is Hubert Noel Charles

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and he designed the very first MG motor car.

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Oh, wow! That's quite exciting.

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-Very exciting, yes.

-So, do you have a large collection of MGs at home?

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No, unfortunately. That's one thing I ought to have.

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-Gosh. Wow-ee. Was this his?

-That was his, yes.

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And I don't know whether it belonged to his parents,

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because it is fairly old, I believe.

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-And it's come through the family?

-Come through the family.

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Well, we can tell it's a nutmeg grater, obviously,

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because if we have a little look on the inside,

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we've got this wonderful grate in here.

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Now, nutmeg graters are quite collectable

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and I believe you've already done quite a lot of research on this?

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-Yes, I have.

-And you know it's by Samuel Meriton.

-Yes.

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Unfortunately, we don't know the actual date that it was made.

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Often, small silver didn't have any duty payable on it,

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-so he didn't actually put the date mark.

-Oh, I see.

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So, we've got this wonderful maker's stamp in the bottom, here,

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but sadly, no date.

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But we know that he was working in the 1800s, the late 19th century.

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After the establishment of the East India Company,

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spices and nutmeg were much more readily available,

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so you would grate your nutmeg into your wine

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to make it taste slightly more palatable.

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So, they weren't carried by the very most affluent members of society

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because, if you were affluent, frankly, you could afford good wine.

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They didn't put it on food, then, the nutmeg on food?

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-Sometimes, but more commonly it was in wine.

-Oh, right.

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So, very, very pretty. Very collectable.

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-And I love the fact that it is just so simple.

-Yes.

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And like you say, it's lovely and warm, because you've been holding it.

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I've been holding it - it's very tactile, isn't it?

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-You've kept it really toasty!

-It's lovely, yes.

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It is hollow, so you would expect some sort of damage

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-and, sadly, this happened.

-It's only a slight one.

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Only a slight dent, we'll just gloss over that.

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Yes, but they can be...

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Value wise, what are you expecting?

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Well, yes, I know a couple of years ago I was offered about £230 for it.

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-Oh, my goodness.

-So, I should have sold it then, really. But never mind.

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They tend to be fetching in the region of £120-£180.

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So, I would hope that it would make in the middle of that at least.

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I would be comfortable at putting a firm reserve of 120.

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I think you'd be very disappointed if it went for any less than that.

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-If it went less than 150, really.

-Oh, really?

-Yes, I would.

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OK. If we put the reserve at 150, we'd have to put it at £150-£200.

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That sounds good, Christina. And keep our fingers crossed.

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-Keep our fingers very crossed!

-Yes!

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Are you going to put the proceeds towards an MG?

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-No, I think a nice long holiday.

-Oh, that sounds good!

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Next up, it's Will, who's high up in the ladies gallery,

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and he appears to have found quite a catch!

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Well, we've got a great birds-eye view of the valuation day

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below us, haven't we? Perched up here on the balcony.

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And what a great view we have of this wonderful piece of jade

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-you've brought in.

-Isn't it?

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-Hannah, tell me...

-A big lumpy thing!

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A big lumpy thing! I've seen... I've heard them

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described as certain... Never like that before!

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But tell me, how did a piece of Chinese jade come to be in Oxford?

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It was given to me a long time ago, about ten years ago,

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but I don't really remember by whom. I know more or less what...

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-Just a stranger, was it, who came up to you?

-No, no, no, no!

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-It was one of my patients.

-Oh, a patient? Are you in the medical...?

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-Physiotherapist.

-Physiotherapy? So, a grateful patient...

-Yeah.

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..who you worked your magic on,

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gave you this piece of carved jade as a thank you?

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-But a very long time ago.

-OK.

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I mean, jade has always been very highly prized by the Chinese,

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-more so than even gold and silver.

-Oh.

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-In the times of antiquity...

-Yes?

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-..it was very much a ceremonial material.

-Mm-hm?

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There were connections with the afterlife,

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animals carved in jade, people thought they brought good luck.

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Occasionally, these were put in tombs and they helped people

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through the afterlife as a guide, that sort of thing.

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Is this only decorative or does it have any use?

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Well, I think, by the time we come to your piece of jade here, we are

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-looking at a decorative piece.

-OK.

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It's really a carver showing off their skills.

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-You can notice that we've got the two colours of jade.

-Yeah.

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-This is what we would call a piece of sort of green and russet jade.

-Yeah.

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The early Chinese carvers of jade were using the natural formation

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of the stone to convey what they wanted, you know.

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Maybe the characteristics of the animal they were carving.

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-A lot of the time, you see horses and buffaloes and so on.

-Yeah.

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-Do you like it?

-No.

-You don't?

-I definitely don't like it.

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-I think it's lumpy and big.

-Hmm, and what do you like, then?

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-Do you collect anything?

-Small things. I like miniature things.

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-Ah, always popular, miniature items.

-The smaller, the better.

-Yes.

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-Well, we've got to come to value, haven't we?

-Yeah.

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It's not going to be in the same sort of league as an ancient

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piece of carved jade, which is, of course, highly-prized by the Chinese.

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-Presently, they're buying a lot of it back.

-Yeah.

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But I think it's still going to appeal to the market and I'd like

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to sort of put it in at a sort of slightly conservative estimate.

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-OK.

-What do you feel like, if I put it in at £100,

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-would you be happy with that?

-That's fine, yes.

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-You just want it away?

-I just want it away.

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I'll tell you what, let's have a gamble.

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-Let's put it in at £100-150, with an estimate.

-OK.

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-But let's not put a reserve on it, so...

-No, I don't want a reserve.

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-You don't?

-I want to get rid of it, really.

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You're my ideal client. We're going to be sure of a sale on the day.

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-I look forward...

-You'll sell it for £10, yes.

-No, I hope not.

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Look, the auctioneer's working in your interest.

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-The more you get, the more he gets.

-Oh, OK.

-So don't worry about that.

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Good, thank you very much.

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Before we head off to auction,

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there is something I would like to show you.

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Looking around this lido,

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it's hard to believe this was once the place to be seen!

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But rewind 40 years and Kings Meadow was once a teenage hang-out -

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the British version of the American drive-in.

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This place would be queued out of the door with keen swimmers,

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and the average cost to take a dip was just sixpence.

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Today, Kings Meadow is a shadow of its former self.

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It closed to the general public in 1974 and, since then,

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it's suffered damage, decay and even threat of demolition.

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As you can see, it is in a sorry state. It needs a lot of TLC.

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In fact, £1.5 million worth of TLC to be precise.

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If this goes, then so does a vital part of our heritage.

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So, can this lido make a big splash again?

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Kings Meadow Lido was built in 1902

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and, although it's a listed building,

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it is dependent on volunteers for support.

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With such a big amount to raise,

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the Kings Meadow campaigners have a long way to go.

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Leading the charge are Anne and Richard Jessel.

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When you think of it - it's 110 years old -

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it isn't looking so bad, to be honest.

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Anne was a high board diver,

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who spent many a day practising her backflips at the lido.

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I used to be a diver and my parents used to take me around the country

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and a lot of the lidos that I used to dive in, very sadly,

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they have now disappeared.

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I mean, just look at this pool.

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110 years old, built specifically for ladies, OK?

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Ladies had the priority here.

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Considering there was a gentleman's pool right opposite,

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they had the right idea when they built it, half-canopied like this,

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because, in those days, women bathers were very, very private.

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So, um... HE LAUGHS

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..I've always said that, the first month of bathing in this pool,

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nobody would be allowed in unless they were all wearing

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Edwardian bathing dress.

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That would be nice if, when we get to the point of restoring it

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back for everybody to use.

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Look at the way the quality of all the work, architecture,

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everything, is so nice! This must not disappear.

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Well, this is safe here for you, Anne - it's the shallow end.

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The diving board shouldn't be here.

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What do you mean it's safe for me at the shallow end?! I'm a diver!

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The golden age of lidos began in the 1930s,

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when outdoor swimming was all the rage.

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Over 150 lidos sprang up across the UK.

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They provided cheap public swimming and were part of a great

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and modernist movement to encourage health and fitness.

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If you couldn't afford to go abroad in the summer,

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the lido was the next best thing.

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96-year-old Charlie swam in this pool almost every day

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and he's still fighting fit.

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You feel alive in the open air!

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You feel refreshed!

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Even with rain, you get warm rain on you, er, when...in the summer.

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So it doesn't matter if it's raining!

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But, er, everything is lively.

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And people are so much happier!

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What was the lido like in its heyday?

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There was often queues to get in.

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It was a thoroughly enjoyable pool.

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But their popularity could not last for ever.

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Many were put out of business in the 1960s and '70s,

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when foreign travel became much cheaper

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and most people could afford to go abroad, and they shunned the lido.

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But in recent years, outdoor swimming has been enjoying something

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of a renaissance and the lido has been caught up in this wave.

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To see what the Kings Meadow Lido could become,

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take a look at Clifton Lido in Bristol.

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It was almost demolished to make way for flats,

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but in 2007, it was saved and underwent a £2 million restoration.

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Mal Sainsbury is once again a Clifton Lido regular.

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I used to come in the '70s.

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The hot summer of '76, with my small children,

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and, um, it's amazing to have an oasis like this

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and how I missed it and mourned it when it was closed all those years.

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The benefits of outdoor swimming cannot be underestimated.

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It's a wonderful place to come early in the morning.

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I swim before dawn three times a week at least and to see,

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winter or summer or spring, to see the day dawning, it just puts

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a whole new perspective on your day ahead, cos it makes you feel...

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It makes you feel real somehow and connected with yourself.

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It's fantastic.

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Clifton Lido is now a private health club,

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but the original aim of the lido was cheap, public swimming.

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The building has been restored, but the message has been somewhat lost.

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However, in this economic climate,

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the restoration of lidos, like Kings Meadow,

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depends upon the passion and the enthusiasm of lido fans.

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Anne and Richard are still fundraising and,

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if they succeed, they will ensure

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that the next generation of outdoor swimmers enjoy the bracing waters.

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How can we possibly lose it?

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I mean, Reading would look upon this - if it was restored,

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or WHEN it is restored, I hasten to say - as a jewel in the town.

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Well, it's clear the appetite for outdoor swimming is here

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and what better way to build on the back of a successful Olympics

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than to restore our lidos back to their former glory?

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So, come on, pull on a pair of bathers, pop on a swim cap,

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and take the plunge outdoors!

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Before we head off to auction for the first time today,

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I want to show you the union cafe.

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Behind me are hundreds of photographs of

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some of the famous people who've spoken in the debating chamber.

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Up there, you can see Pierce Brosnan, 007.

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The Labour MP, Tony Benn.

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Up there, one of my favourite actors, Bill Nighy.

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And of course, Shakira. But I wonder what she had to say?

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Anyway, I'm digressing right now.

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It's time to put those valuations to the test.

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And no doubt, there's going to be another debate in the auction room.

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Here's a quick recap of what's going under the hammer.

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We have Tracey's autograph book, jam-packed with famous faces.

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Christina and Lydia's charm bracelet, complete with 24 charms.

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Will they be lucky in the saleroom?

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Will it be Hannah's Japanese jade model in the shape of a carp

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that the bidders flock to?

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And of course, Hilary's unusual nutmeg grater.

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Will she get the high price she wants for it?

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Our auction today comes from Newbury, near Reading.

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Among the famous names who hail from Newbury

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are Sebastian Faulks, author of Birdsong.

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And musical impresario, Andrew Lloyd Webber,

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both of whom have spoken at Oxford Union.

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In charge of today's proceedings

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is our all-singing, all-dancing auctioneer, Thomas Plant.

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Go on! 80, he says. Yes! £80.

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And the house is absolutely packed.

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And our own star turn's first lot is that nutmeg grater,

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handy for 19th-century wine.

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Hilary, sadly, cannot be with us today

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but I'm joined by Christina, our lovely expert.

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And we're just about to put that silver nutmeg grater under the hammer. Aren't we?

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-Hilary was offered £230 for this not so long ago.

-Yeah, no pressure!

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-No pressure!

-Thanks!

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It's a different kettle of fish in an auction.

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It can either go higher and hit that result,

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or it can go slightly lower. That's the fun of the auction.

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In the market that we're in, nutmeg graters are very easy to collect.

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They're small, you can collect a lot of them.

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-So, hopefully...

-It's stamped SM, isn't it?

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So, we know who the maker is, Samuel Menton or Meriton.

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But there's those dents, which worry me.

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It's going to have to have a little bit of work, but...

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-Right.

-OK.

-Here we go, then. Ready? Good luck, this is it.

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The 19th-century silver nutmeg grater.

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And I can start the bidding with me here at £150, with me.

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160, 170, 180, 190. 200, and ten.

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220, and I'm out. At 220, it is. At 220, and I'm out.

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It's in the room at 220. Any advance at 220?

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Selling, then, 220 it is.

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-Well, that was a good result. I'm happy with that.

-I hope Hilary is.

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I'm sure she is. Hilary, if you're watching this,

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-I know there's a big smile on your face and that's what it's all about.

-Yes, exactly, yes.

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If you've got anything like that at home, we'd love to see it.

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Bring it into one of our valuation days.

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It's a cracking start and Thomas has more good news for our next item.

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Five, 60, five...

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There are a few keen jewellery buffs in the room today,

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so he has high hopes

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that Christina's bracelet will charm them.

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He's even upped the reserve.

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We've been talking about this bracelet which is just about to go under the hammer.

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There's all sorts of things going on.

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-There's the little church, isn't there?

-Yes.

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-There's a £5 note.

-Yes.

-There's an oil lamp.

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Yeah. The spaceman, that was my favourite.

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Was that Lydia's favourite as well? On the valuation day, little Lydia.

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And it is a shame, because you think,

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the work that goes into making these little charms.

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You were mentioning the church and the steeple,

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the doors that open and all the people inside.

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It's unfortunate that I don't think they're going to last very long.

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Shame, really, isn't it?

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The other good thing about gold is, of course, that it is recycled.

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Those will be melted down and they'll be made into another

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piece of jewellery that someone else is going to wear for years,

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-so it's a sort of cyclic notion, isn't it?

-It is, really.

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Anyway, let's put it to the test. What's it worth?

0:25:370:25:40

Thomas is going to tell us. Here we go.

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And this is the impressive nine carat gold charm bracelet.

0:25:420:25:45

There we are, lots of charms on this one.

0:25:450:25:47

I will start the bidding with me here, straight in at £600 with me.

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At £600, I have. 600...and 20. 650?

0:25:510:25:56

680, if you want to. 680, and I'm out. At 680, it's in the room. 700.

0:25:560:26:02

At £700 in the room. Is there any advance at £700?

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Very last chance at 700 and I sell.

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-Thank you very much.

-I'm happy with that.

0:26:090:26:11

-You're happy with that as well, aren't you?

-Yes.

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The children will be happy.

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Oh, right - are they going to benefit?

0:26:150:26:16

It's their inheritance.

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Well, give our best to Lydia as well.

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I'm sorry she couldn't make it.

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Lydia will be pleased.

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And now to a delightful piece of jade that's travelled

0:26:240:26:26

all the way from China!

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I've just been joined by Hanneke, who's come all the way from?

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-Oxford.

-Oxford!

-LAUGHTER

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-Originally though?

-Holland!

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From Holland, yes. I know they get the show in Holland.

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-It's very popular.

-I'm always getting letters from Holland.

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-Exceptionally popular!

-People come here especially from Holland.

-Yes.

0:26:410:26:44

Your jade is exquisite.

0:26:440:26:46

-I really like this little carved carp on there...

-That's right.

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-..going through the reeds.

-Nice quality.

-Beautiful!

0:26:480:26:51

-Why are you selling this?

-I hardly dare say it.

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-I don't like it.

-You don't like it?

-PAUL AND WILL LAUGH

0:26:530:26:56

-You do. I do.

-That's what the market wants.

-Yes!

-You don't like something,

0:26:560:26:59

-someone else does - keeps the whole thing moving.

-Yeah.

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-That's what art's all about. It's an arbitrary concept.

-Yes.

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-It's quite subjective.

-Mm-hm.

-I like miniature things, so...

0:27:040:27:07

-I think this is flavour of the month right now.

-Good.

0:27:070:27:10

So, let's put it to the test, shall we?

0:27:100:27:12

I've a Chinese jade carving, models a carp amongst leaves. There we are.

0:27:120:27:16

Good condition, this piece here.

0:27:160:27:18

I have bids here with me, straight in at £80.

0:27:180:27:21

-£80.

-Is there any advance at 80?

0:27:210:27:24

85 and I'm out. Straight out at 85.

0:27:240:27:26

Any advance at 85? It's in the audience.

0:27:260:27:28

At £85, make no mistake, can I sell?

0:27:280:27:31

85.

0:27:310:27:33

It's gone! Blink and you'll miss that,

0:27:330:27:35

-that was so quick.

-I like that.

-A bid came in at 80, we got £85.

0:27:350:27:38

-Yeah.

-Hammer's come down. Happy with that?

0:27:380:27:40

-Happy with anything.

-We were worried about the reserve.

0:27:400:27:42

It had no reserve, but we didn't need to in the end, did we?

0:27:420:27:45

Thank you very much.

0:27:450:27:46

I think Hannah would've taken £2.50 and a packet of crisps!

0:27:480:27:51

She really did not like that jade.

0:27:510:27:53

And hopefully, the new owner will appreciate it a little bit more.

0:27:530:27:57

Now, it's time to auction that jam-packed autograph book

0:27:570:28:00

brought in by Tracey.

0:28:000:28:01

There's some top names there,

0:28:010:28:03

collected at the New Oxford Theatre from the 1950s onwards.

0:28:030:28:06

And in fact, Thomas is on the rostrum announcing them now.

0:28:060:28:08

Bernard Cribbins, Jon Pertwee, Tommy Steele, Vincent Price.

0:28:080:28:13

Well, there's some wonderful names here.

0:28:130:28:15

-What was your favourite one?

-Sean Connery.

-James Bond!

-Yes!

0:28:150:28:22

This is a comprehensive and well presented collection of autographs.

0:28:220:28:26

Plenty of interest.

0:28:260:28:28

I can start this one at 130, 140, 150, 160 with me.

0:28:280:28:34

-£160 against you. 160...

-£160!

-Is there any advance at £160?

0:28:340:28:41

-At 160, I have.

-Fantastic.

-Against you all, 160.

0:28:410:28:46

Hammer's gone down, straight in, straight out. £160.

0:28:460:28:50

He was a great man.

0:28:500:28:52

-Up there, he's probably quite pleased.

-I hope so.

0:28:520:28:57

-Thank you very much.

-What a great ending. That was a big surprise.

0:28:570:29:01

That IS a big surprise.

0:29:010:29:02

Many famous debates have been delivered at the Oxford Union,

0:29:070:29:10

but what do the words we write say about us?

0:29:100:29:12

Not the words themselves, but the text they're written in.

0:29:120:29:15

We can all use the computer these days and we can choose whether

0:29:150:29:18

our letters look better in Arial or classic Times New Roman,

0:29:180:29:22

but who designs these fonts?

0:29:220:29:24

Well, while we're filming in the area, I went off to investigate.

0:29:240:29:27

# A, B, C

0:29:310:29:33

# Easy as one, two, three

0:29:330:29:36

# As simple as do, re, mi

0:29:360:29:38

# A, B, C

0:29:380:29:39

# One, to, three

0:29:390:29:40

# Baby, you and me, girl... #

0:29:400:29:43

Fonts - they are everywhere. We're surrounded by them.

0:29:430:29:46

I've come to the Type Museum here in Stockwell to find out a bit more.

0:29:480:29:52

Fonts are basically clothes that words are dressed up in.

0:29:530:29:57

And I, for one, well, I'm quite particular about my choice of font.

0:29:570:30:01

I am a Calibri man. I love my beloved Calibri.

0:30:010:30:05

That is my type.

0:30:050:30:07

Not so long ago, we all used to write letters by hand.

0:30:130:30:16

Some people's handwriting is like scribbles,

0:30:160:30:18

others is as neat as printed text.

0:30:180:30:21

Everybody's different and everybody's unique.

0:30:210:30:24

But few of us write letters nowadays.

0:30:240:30:26

We all text each other or send e-mails.

0:30:260:30:28

So, what does our font choice say about us?

0:30:280:30:31

Because, basically,

0:30:310:30:32

fonts are the computer's version of our handwriting style.

0:30:320:30:36

It's all down to taste.

0:30:380:30:40

I think Times New Roman is a bit too classic.

0:30:400:30:42

Arial is a bit overused.

0:30:420:30:44

And Comic Sans polarises opinion.

0:30:440:30:46

It looks like it was created by my four-year-old!

0:30:460:30:49

But what do the experts think?

0:30:490:30:52

Neville Brody is a typographer

0:30:520:30:54

and is the brainchild behind several fonts we use on a daily basis.

0:30:540:30:59

Your choice of typeface says quite a lot about you.

0:30:590:31:02

The way you dress describes your personality,

0:31:020:31:05

the fonts you use are the same.

0:31:050:31:07

I think most people today, they'll buy a computer

0:31:070:31:11

and typefaces are just in there.

0:31:110:31:13

No-one ever contributed to them or designed them,

0:31:130:31:16

they just came from somewhere out in the universe.

0:31:160:31:19

Actually, they came on a spaceship called Microsoft.

0:31:190:31:23

Most people will use Times, or Arial.

0:31:230:31:27

You wouldn't go out every day wearing exactly the same uniform

0:31:280:31:32

that some big corporation had told you to wear,

0:31:320:31:36

you'd go out and choose something different from your wardrobe.

0:31:360:31:39

But in typography, we don't tend to think like that.

0:31:390:31:43

This is a fraction of the amount of typefaces for your computer

0:31:430:31:49

that you can get hold of.

0:31:490:31:51

It's extraordinary and growing exponentially every year,

0:31:510:31:55

and it's almost a bit like the record industry in a way.

0:31:550:31:58

You know, each week, you might have another hit single.

0:31:580:32:01

Just look around us -

0:32:060:32:07

we don't notice how many fonts we are subjected to every day.

0:32:070:32:11

But imagine if those fonts were suddenly altered.

0:32:110:32:15

We'd notice that something wasn't right.

0:32:150:32:18

Hang on, what's different about the telephone box?

0:32:180:32:21

But fancy font work is nothing new.

0:32:240:32:27

Oxford University Press is the largest university press in the world

0:32:270:32:31

and it printed its first book way back in 1478.

0:32:310:32:35

Martin Moore is the archivist here and a self-confessed font fan.

0:32:370:32:42

Type design goes back to the Roman or Greek models.

0:32:420:32:45

Early printers would look at inscriptions

0:32:450:32:48

on Greek monuments or buildings.

0:32:480:32:50

They'd take that as being the classical idea of beauty

0:32:500:32:53

and they'd try to reproduce those proportions in their own letters.

0:32:530:32:56

Who has the editorial decision

0:32:560:32:58

to choose what font is used for what text?

0:32:580:33:01

I mean, giving an example,

0:33:010:33:02

the Bible wouldn't be printed and published in Comic Sans.

0:33:020:33:06

I mean, that's just ridiculous. But who actually has that say?

0:33:060:33:09

Usually, it's an editorial decision

0:33:090:33:11

in somewhere like Oxford University Press.

0:33:110:33:14

But as you look through printing history,

0:33:140:33:16

you'll find that the printers themselves decided on this

0:33:160:33:19

and, in some cases, you'll see that

0:33:190:33:21

they would do really elaborate pieces of printing

0:33:210:33:23

to show off what they were capable of

0:33:230:33:25

or to show customers what they were capable of.

0:33:250:33:27

Especially some of the very early illuminated manuscripts.

0:33:270:33:30

-I mean, the printing there is just superb.

-Absolutely.

0:33:300:33:33

And as we can see from this copy of Clarendon's

0:33:330:33:35

History Of The English Civil War,

0:33:350:33:37

which Oxford printed at the beginning of the 18th century,

0:33:370:33:40

here you have a title page

0:33:400:33:42

which is a great stew of different typefaces and designs.

0:33:420:33:46

It's really designed, in those days' terms, to catch the eye,

0:33:460:33:49

to draw people to Oxford to get their work printed from us.

0:33:490:33:53

Type was very elaborate, it was very floral,

0:33:530:33:56

it was very full of bling, in fact.

0:33:560:33:59

So, being creative with your font choice is not a new idea.

0:34:020:34:06

But constructing a font was laborious.

0:34:060:34:09

Everything was done by hand.

0:34:090:34:10

The design was carved out of steel,

0:34:140:34:16

then punched into softer copper to create a mould

0:34:160:34:21

tiny letter by tiny letter.

0:34:210:34:24

These moulds were often filled individually with liquid metal.

0:34:240:34:28

It often took weeks to create an elaborate font.

0:34:280:34:32

It's a very, very skilled business. It's almost a dead trade today.

0:34:340:34:38

There are very few people in the world who can still do this.

0:34:380:34:41

But something happened in the 1860s

0:34:470:34:49

which would drastically limit our font choice.

0:34:490:34:52

MUSIC: "The Typewriter" by Leroy Anderson

0:34:520:34:56

The typewriter arrived.

0:34:560:34:59

This invention standardised the look of almost all professional correspondence,

0:34:590:35:03

as the typewriter was limited to varieties of one font.

0:35:030:35:07

We know it today as Courier.

0:35:070:35:09

But of course, its days of dominance were numbered.

0:35:090:35:13

-NEWSREEL:

-'The new keyboard controls a word processor -

0:35:160:35:19

'the microchip controlled office machine of the future.

0:35:190:35:22

'That's what the extra keys are for and that's why

0:35:220:35:24

'it could have a big future.'

0:35:240:35:26

The rise of the computer in the 1970s

0:35:260:35:29

and the demise of the typewriter

0:35:290:35:31

meant that fonts had to look good on screen as well as in print.

0:35:310:35:35

And some have even become default choices.

0:35:350:35:38

Nowadays, Verdana is currently the most popular typeface on the internet.

0:35:380:35:42

But it's the ubiquity of Comic Sans

0:35:420:35:44

which confounds typographers like Neville Brody.

0:35:440:35:48

Using Comic Sans to make you look kind of slightly light and jolly

0:35:480:35:53

and informal, for me, it's the equivalent of getting

0:35:530:35:57

Ronald McDonald to deliver your messages to friends.

0:35:570:36:00

It's not serious and is used far too often, but I quite like it for that.

0:36:000:36:05

From the comic to the uber cool,

0:36:080:36:10

with a myriad of fonts now available to us

0:36:100:36:12

it's about choosing the right font for the right context

0:36:120:36:16

and being more bold with our choices.

0:36:160:36:18

For Neville, there's no end to the fun you can have with fonts.

0:36:180:36:22

Here is the number three, but it becomes graphic form again,

0:36:230:36:30

and I love the idea that it can become more sculptural, more modern.

0:36:300:36:34

This is actually an S.

0:36:350:36:37

It's quite experimental.

0:36:370:36:39

But the typeface itself is still quite readable.

0:36:390:36:43

We took what was a designed for a boxing poster and then redesigned it

0:36:430:36:48

to make it look a lot more feminine and poetic and graceful.

0:36:480:36:52

So, typefaces can have different kinds of lives now.

0:36:520:36:56

I couldn't imagine this being at all possible using metal lettering.

0:36:560:36:59

So, how does the outside world look now that I'm more aware of fonts?

0:37:020:37:06

Fonts are basically the tone of voice we hear when we read

0:37:060:37:10

and, indeed, the Guardian newspaper - look, this one here -

0:37:100:37:12

has its own font, Guardian Egyptian,

0:37:120:37:14

which brands the newspaper throughout.

0:37:140:37:17

And so does the Times. But, what does my favourite font say about me?

0:37:170:37:23

Kind of warm and cuddly and slightly classical,

0:37:230:37:26

yearning for some great old days, in a way.

0:37:260:37:31

Warm and cuddly? Thanks a lot! Time for a new font?

0:37:310:37:35

Welcome back to our valuation day venue, the Oxford Union.

0:37:410:37:44

There's still a great buzz in the room

0:37:440:37:46

and plenty more antiques to find to take off to auction.

0:37:460:37:49

But we start outside,

0:37:490:37:50

where Will is perusing some prints by a very famous artist.

0:37:500:37:55

I couldn't find a table in there big enough to house your folio.

0:37:550:37:58

Tell me, where's this come from?

0:37:580:38:00

It was just a purchase at a local antiques fair about five years ago

0:38:000:38:04

-over in Woodstock.

-OK.

-A bit of an impulse buy.

0:38:040:38:07

You're a keen antique buyer, are you?

0:38:070:38:08

I pick up the odd bit here and there.

0:38:080:38:10

-Pictures aren't normally my thing, but...

-You mentioned pictures,

0:38:100:38:13

because that's exactly what we've got, isn't it? Let's have a look.

0:38:130:38:16

First of all, I notice here, R Wimbush Esq.

0:38:160:38:19

That, to me, makes me think, this is going to be something quite special,

0:38:190:38:23

surely, being a personalised folio.

0:38:230:38:25

Indeed, "12 stipple engravings of Hogarth."

0:38:250:38:29

The Rake's Progress and The Election.

0:38:290:38:31

And here, look, is the original receipt. 1947, £126.

0:38:310:38:36

That seems to me like a lot of money in those days.

0:38:360:38:38

The Rake's Progress is obviously

0:38:380:38:40

the one that everyone's going to have heard of, by Hogarth.

0:38:400:38:43

It's Tom Rakewell

0:38:430:38:45

and it's basically a report on his life of vice and self-destruction

0:38:450:38:50

after inheriting a fortune from his father.

0:38:500:38:53

Let's just open up.

0:38:530:38:54

We've got here, at the top, actually, this is the first one.

0:38:540:38:57

This is when he's inheriting his fortune.

0:38:570:38:59

You can see here, his miserly father has died.

0:38:590:39:03

He's getting measured up for a new suit.

0:39:030:39:05

You've got the lawyer at the back and, interestingly,

0:39:050:39:07

he's got his finger in the gold coins - he's pinching a few coins.

0:39:070:39:11

He's already being taken advantage of here.

0:39:110:39:13

And this figure here, actually, she's Sarah Young.

0:39:130:39:15

She's actually quite an important figure in the whole series.

0:39:150:39:18

She sort of devoted herself to Tom.

0:39:180:39:21

He's trying to pay her off now that he's found his new wealth.

0:39:210:39:24

He wants to go and play the field, as it were.

0:39:240:39:26

She's holding the ring that he promised her

0:39:260:39:29

and, later on in the story, she keeps popping up

0:39:290:39:32

and she's still in love with him, but he's rejecting her.

0:39:320:39:35

You know, it's a sad side of a sad story - someone's demise.

0:39:350:39:39

So, that's the first in the series.

0:39:390:39:41

I thought it would be quite interesting to then make

0:39:410:39:43

a leap to the last in the series, and this one's entitled "Bedlam."

0:39:430:39:49

And there he is, completely mad, having lost all his money,

0:39:490:39:53

all his friends and his marbles, as such.

0:39:530:39:56

You can see various figures here and, of course,

0:39:560:39:58

Bedlam being open to the public,

0:39:580:40:00

these are two fashionable ladies who have come.

0:40:000:40:03

And there's Sarah Young, again, who's come to visit him when he's mad.

0:40:030:40:07

And it's a sad story, but it really caught the attention at the time.

0:40:070:40:10

You know, Hogarth,

0:40:100:40:11

these are obviously from original paintings by Hogarth.

0:40:110:40:14

They hang in the Soane's Museum.

0:40:140:40:17

But Hogarth was a commercial minded man,

0:40:170:40:19

so people would come to his studio, see the original paintings

0:40:190:40:22

and he'd say, "Would you like to order a series of prints?"

0:40:220:40:24

And he produced some original prints himself.

0:40:240:40:27

These aren't by him,

0:40:270:40:28

these are by Jackson Stodart "from the original painting by Hogarth."

0:40:280:40:32

It's also got The Election, which is another series of four, I think.

0:40:320:40:35

And London, The Museum Galleries -

0:40:350:40:37

they're the people who have published these, produced these.

0:40:370:40:40

Super quality. I mean, you know, the cost to produce these is quite high.

0:40:400:40:46

So, good quality items, hence why they're in this personalised folio.

0:40:460:40:50

You say you bought them at an antiques fair,

0:40:500:40:52

-what sort of money did you have to pay for them?

-It was about £50.

0:40:520:40:55

OK, so not bad, really, when you break it down,

0:40:550:40:57

and certainly considering what they cost originally.

0:40:570:41:00

But the way we furnish our homes nowadays,

0:41:000:41:03

-they're not hugely fashionable, I'm afraid.

-No, I agree.

0:41:030:41:06

Different if you're talking about period 18th-century ones.

0:41:060:41:09

You say you paid £50 for it.

0:41:090:41:10

I'm going to try and get away with getting your money back.

0:41:100:41:13

-How do you feel about that?

-OK, I am happy with that.

-Yeah, you happy?

0:41:130:41:16

-Let's put 'em in at say £50-100...

-OK.

-..and we'll reserve them at £50.

0:41:160:41:20

-Yeah?

-Sounds great.

-Yeah.

0:41:200:41:21

And they might even make a little bit more.

0:41:210:41:23

-You never can tell.

-Lovely.

0:41:230:41:25

From the "Bedlam" of Hogarth

0:41:250:41:27

to the well-oiled machine that is our "Flog It!" team,

0:41:270:41:30

we're back inside the debating hall with Christina,

0:41:300:41:33

who's on familiar territory with our next item.

0:41:330:41:36

Pauline, my golden girl,

0:41:370:41:39

you've brought me some beautiful jewellery in today.

0:41:390:41:41

Tell me a little bit about it. Where has it come from?

0:41:410:41:43

-Well, it belonged to my grandmother.

-Right.

0:41:430:41:46

Obviously came down from my grandmother to my mum

0:41:460:41:48

and my mum gave it to me some time ago.

0:41:480:41:52

And it's probably sat for the last 20 or 30 years in the cupboard.

0:41:520:41:55

Oh, no! Oh, what a shame.

0:41:550:41:57

I don't really wear yellow gold so...

0:41:570:41:59

-So you wear white gold or silver?

-Yes.

-So it's just not really...

0:41:590:42:02

-It's not something that I would wear, really.

-Right.

0:42:020:42:06

Well, it's a 15 carat yellow gold chain,

0:42:060:42:09

what we call a curb link chain.

0:42:090:42:11

And it's stamped 15 carat just on here

0:42:110:42:14

with a nine carat gold clasp.

0:42:140:42:16

A very traditional padlock, heart-shaped padlock, clasp,

0:42:160:42:19

-which is stamped nine carat on the back.

-Mm-hm.

0:42:190:42:22

It's really very lovely and quite easy to wear

0:42:220:42:24

cos the curb links do roll around on your wrist.

0:42:240:42:27

But why don't you wear it? Cos you...

0:42:270:42:30

It's not something that I like particularly.

0:42:300:42:32

-Did your grandmother wear it?

-I believe my grandmother wore it.

0:42:320:42:36

My grandmother died when I was fairly young

0:42:360:42:38

so I don't ever remember seeing her wearing it.

0:42:380:42:40

Certainly don't ever remember seeing my mum wear it.

0:42:400:42:43

-So it's a shame.

-Well, that would explain

0:42:430:42:45

why there's so little wear on it, cos, for 15 carat,

0:42:450:42:47

really, you would expect to see a few more scratches,

0:42:470:42:50

especially with a hollow link chain.

0:42:500:42:52

-Not being solid, obviously, it would get quite a few dents.

-Yeah.

0:42:520:42:55

And it just is in brilliant condition, which is fantastic.

0:42:550:42:59

But also quite sad, because you would hope that

0:42:590:43:01

-we would be able to find somebody that will wear it.

-Yeah,

0:43:010:43:03

well, that's what I was hoping.

0:43:030:43:04

-You know, someone would wear it and enjoy it and...

-Absolutely.

0:43:040:43:07

Well, let's see if we can find her.

0:43:070:43:09

But we need to agree on an auction estimate.

0:43:090:43:11

-OK.

-I think at auction... They're not rare.

0:43:110:43:13

They were fairly standard pieces of jewellery

0:43:130:43:16

in the late 19th, early 20th century.

0:43:160:43:18

-But it has got quite a lot of gold content to it.

-Yes.

0:43:180:43:21

Do you have any sort of value expectations for it?

0:43:210:43:24

Obviously as much as it could go for, really!

0:43:240:43:26

-Well, we'll keep our fingers crossed.

-OK.

0:43:260:43:28

But at auction, I think we're probably looking for

0:43:280:43:31

something in the region of £150-200. How would you feel about that?

0:43:310:43:34

-I would then like to put some kind of a reserve on it.

-Yes, of course.

0:43:340:43:38

-We wouldn't want it to go underneath £150, really.

-No.

0:43:380:43:41

No, I think that would be OK.

0:43:410:43:43

So if we put an auction estimate of 150-200...

0:43:430:43:46

-Yeah.

-..with a reserve of 150 firm.

0:43:460:43:49

-Yes.

-And let's just hope the gold price doubles...trebles

0:43:490:43:52

-between now and the auction!

-That would be very nice, yeah!

0:43:520:43:56

-It would, wouldn't it?!

-OK!

0:43:560:43:58

And later on, we'll find out from our auctioneer, Thomas Plant,

0:43:580:44:02

just how strong the gold market is.

0:44:020:44:04

Now, we all know the Oxford Union has gained a worldwide reputation

0:44:060:44:09

for the cut and thrust of its debate.

0:44:090:44:11

But it's also proved a valuable training ground

0:44:110:44:14

for future British Prime Ministers.

0:44:140:44:16

Harold Macmillan.

0:44:160:44:17

Ted Heath is here, as well.

0:44:170:44:18

But it's not just Prime Ministers.

0:44:180:44:20

The union also boasts some eminent members.

0:44:200:44:23

And up there, just there, that's Albert Einstein,

0:44:230:44:26

famous for his theory of relativity.

0:44:260:44:28

And he's instantly recognisable because of his mop of mad hair.

0:44:280:44:32

And this photograph was taken in 1933

0:44:320:44:34

and the rest of his year

0:44:340:44:36

have the most beautiful, slick, tidy haircuts

0:44:360:44:40

and there's Albert Einstein, looking as mad as ever.

0:44:400:44:44

I love that photograph. What a character!

0:44:440:44:47

This place has seen its fair share of famous faces

0:44:560:44:58

-and you've brought another one along today.

-Certainly.

0:44:580:45:01

Tell me, where has this come from?

0:45:010:45:02

Well, I work for a local charity.

0:45:020:45:04

-People come along and donate goods to us.

-Yes?

0:45:040:45:07

-I happened to notice the mask, loved the face...

-Yeah.

0:45:070:45:09

-And I thought, "That's worth going on Flog It!"

-Ah, good idea.

0:45:090:45:12

That's what we're here for.

0:45:120:45:14

Well, she's certainly beautiful, isn't she? Stunning.

0:45:140:45:16

I mean, really catches the eye.

0:45:160:45:18

-It's lovely.

-Yeah.

-Yeah, I'd love it myself

0:45:180:45:20

but it wasn't donated to me!

0:45:200:45:22

Well, as with all pottery and porcelain,

0:45:220:45:24

-let's have a look at the back, cos that'll give us some clues.

-OK.

0:45:240:45:27

And sure enough, there we are,

0:45:270:45:28

we've got a nice, clear mark there, haven't we?

0:45:280:45:30

Now, when you think of Austrian Art Deco,

0:45:330:45:35

cos that's what she is, Art Deco pottery,

0:45:350:45:37

you almost immediately think of Goldscheider.

0:45:370:45:40

That's the first name that really jumps into your mind.

0:45:400:45:43

Keramos, I think,

0:45:430:45:45

were a factory that were producing wares alongside Goldscheider

0:45:450:45:49

and I do believe, actually,

0:45:490:45:50

that some of the painters and modellers worked for both.

0:45:500:45:54

Keramos as well, I think, is the Greek...

0:45:540:45:56

My Greek's not what it used to be.

0:45:560:45:58

Maybe here at the Oxford Union,

0:45:580:45:59

I'm sure they debate in Greek here, or something!

0:45:590:46:01

-Well, it's all Greek to me, but carry on!

-But I think

0:46:010:46:04

-Keramos means pottery...

-Oh, right.

-..or clay.

0:46:040:46:06

So that might be where the name's come from.

0:46:060:46:09

But you know, you can look at the back there

0:46:090:46:11

and you can tell, almost, that it's nice quality

0:46:110:46:13

just from the back, can't you?

0:46:130:46:15

Let's turn her back over cos that's her best side, shall we say?!

0:46:150:46:18

We've got this all over crackled glaze on her face.

0:46:180:46:21

I think that's deliberate. I think they've gone for that look.

0:46:210:46:25

On some pieces, you get it with age and so on.

0:46:250:46:29

But also, with a certain glaze that you use

0:46:290:46:31

or a certain finish or the firing,

0:46:310:46:33

you can actually create that.

0:46:330:46:35

If you look at ancient Chinese ceramics,

0:46:350:46:38

they often have that crackled finish.

0:46:380:46:40

Yeah.

0:46:400:46:41

So it's come into the shop, caught your eye.

0:46:410:46:44

Have you got any sort of idea what you think it might be worth?

0:46:440:46:48

-I would like it to achieve around about £50, £60.

-OK.

0:46:480:46:53

Well, I think you're in the right sort of ballpark figure.

0:46:530:46:56

It's not going to make the same sort of money

0:46:560:46:58

that a Goldscheider one would,

0:46:580:47:00

or, say, a Clarice Cliff wall mask, you know.

0:47:000:47:02

-I understand that, yes.

-That's the Premier League.

0:47:020:47:04

This, because the whole Deco movement was so popular,

0:47:040:47:07

let's put it in with an estimate of 50-80.

0:47:070:47:10

-Wonderful.

-And where should we reserve it?

0:47:100:47:12

Shall we just tuck it in under that £50 mark?

0:47:120:47:15

-I think 30.

-Ooh!

-Anything, you know, we'd be grateful for anything.

-Anything helps.

0:47:150:47:19

It's great work that you're doing.

0:47:190:47:21

-I'm just glad that we can help you.

-Fabulous, thank you. Thank you.

0:47:210:47:24

Elizabeth and Neville, I love this.

0:47:280:47:30

Thank you so much for bringing it in today, it's absolutely beautiful.

0:47:300:47:34

Tell me a little bit about it.

0:47:340:47:35

Well, it came down through the family - well, from my aunt, actually...

0:47:350:47:39

-Mm-hm?

-..um, who was married to an American service guy.

-Right.

0:47:390:47:43

-And, um, so I've no idea where they bought it.

-OK.

0:47:430:47:47

-But I've had it for about 15 years.

-And do you use it as a doorstop?

0:47:470:47:51

-Because it's incredibly heavy!

-It'd make a good doorstop, wouldn't it?

0:47:510:47:54

-Yeah, did you carry it in with you today?

-Yes.

-My goodness!

0:47:540:47:57

Well, it's a Japanese bronze, dating from about 1920,

0:47:570:48:02

and it's actually a copy, after the original, which is

0:48:020:48:05

in the Metropolitan Museum in New York.

0:48:050:48:08

It's got that wonderful sort of movement and fluidity about it,

0:48:080:48:11

-hasn't it?

-Mm-hm.

-It's just stunning.

-Yes, I love the pose.

0:48:110:48:14

With this wonderful sort of front leg raised, it's beautiful.

0:48:140:48:17

And if we turn over, we've got this foundry mark on the bottom here,

0:48:170:48:21

so we can see... Unfortunately, we can't track down who that was by,

0:48:210:48:25

um, but it is certainly a very, very good copy.

0:48:250:48:28

Why are you selling it if you like it?

0:48:280:48:30

Well, we've got so many pieces, really.

0:48:300:48:33

-It's finding a home for everything.

-Japanese metalworkers were

0:48:330:48:36

some of the finest in the world, especially during the 19th century.

0:48:360:48:40

This is slightly later than that, but I still think

0:48:400:48:42

it will find a market at auction, as a decorative bronze.

0:48:420:48:45

I think we're probably looking somewhere in the region,

0:48:450:48:48

maybe of £80-120, as a decorative item.

0:48:480:48:51

Not a doorstop. I hope people won't use it

0:48:510:48:53

-as a doorstop.

-So do I. LAUGHTER

0:48:530:48:56

But I still think it's rather lovely, um...

0:48:560:48:58

The Chinese oriental market really has been incredibly buoyant

0:48:580:49:02

-for early wares over the last few years.

-Mm-hm.

0:49:020:49:05

Um, but Japanese, not so much, which is why my estimate's quite cautious.

0:49:050:49:09

-Mm-hm.

-So I think, if we set an estimate at £80-120,

0:49:090:49:13

with a reserve of 80, how would you feel about that?

0:49:130:49:17

-Yeah, that'd be fine.

-Yeah.

-Yeah?

0:49:170:49:18

And would you like to do a discretionary reserve or firm at 80?

0:49:180:49:22

-I think I'd like a firm reserve, really.

-Firm reserve.

0:49:220:49:24

So, if it doesn't sell, you're happy to have it back?

0:49:240:49:26

-Yeah.

-Yeah, and we'll hope that

0:49:260:49:28

he'll TROT his way out of the auction house.

0:49:280:49:30

LAUGHTER Good.

0:49:300:49:33

What a sculptural piece. I'm sure there'll be a market

0:49:330:49:36

for a Japanese bronze like that at auction.

0:49:360:49:38

I've been told the people of Oxford love a good debate

0:49:420:49:44

and are not afraid to speak their mind.

0:49:440:49:46

And that certainly seems true of some of the people

0:49:460:49:49

who've been given valuations by Christina and Will.

0:49:490:49:53

Let's just hope, when we get to the auction room,

0:49:530:49:55

there's more ayes than noes.

0:49:550:49:56

And that's exactly where we're going right now.

0:49:560:49:59

And here's a quick recap.

0:49:590:50:01

Depending on the gold price, Pauline's bracelet could sparkle.

0:50:010:50:04

So I'll be asking Thomas

0:50:040:50:05

if Christina's valuation may need an alteration.

0:50:050:50:08

Or maybe the bidders will be captivated

0:50:110:50:13

by Jade's Art Deco face mask, which dates back to the 1920s.

0:50:130:50:20

Will it be the Japanese bronze horse that

0:50:200:50:22

sets the pace in the auction room?

0:50:220:50:25

But first up, will the Hogarth prints make progress

0:50:280:50:31

or will they fall from grace?

0:50:310:50:33

It's time to find out as the bedlam of the auction gets underway.

0:50:360:50:39

When you talk about prints or etchings,

0:50:410:50:43

you cannot help but mention Hogarth.

0:50:430:50:44

We've got a set going under the hammer right now, in folio,

0:50:440:50:47

belonging to Rachel. I do like these.

0:50:470:50:49

These should be on the wall. Why aren't they on your wall?

0:50:490:50:52

Well, my house isn't big enough and I don't actually like them...

0:50:520:50:55

-You don't like them?!

-No.

-The Rake's Progress!

0:50:550:50:57

-I think these are wonderful.

-Aren't they?

0:50:570:50:59

-I mean, they are a great observation on social behaviour.

-Yeah.

0:50:590:51:03

That's what it was all about.

0:51:030:51:04

And it makes me laugh when I look at them.

0:51:040:51:06

There's always something to notice.

0:51:060:51:08

-I mean, he was a fascinating character.

-Incredible.

-Yeah.

0:51:080:51:10

-Incredible.

-Good advice.

-He brought art to the masses.

0:51:100:51:13

People that could not afford oil paintings, this was the market.

0:51:130:51:16

-Yeah.

-He was the first person on the planet

0:51:160:51:19

to produce this kind of work.

0:51:190:51:20

Well, let's see who wants The Rake's Progress, shall we?

0:51:200:51:23

It's going under the hammer now.

0:51:230:51:24

Next lot is 270,

0:51:250:51:27

a set of 12 Hogarth stipple engravings

0:51:270:51:29

from The Rake's Progress.

0:51:290:51:31

These are in marvellous condition.

0:51:310:51:32

Well, I can start the bidding with me, here,

0:51:320:51:35

straight in at £35 with me.

0:51:350:51:36

-It's nothing.

-We need a bit of action.

0:51:360:51:39

Any advance of 35? At £35.

0:51:390:51:42

-If I was allowed to put my hand up, I would!

-Aw-w!

0:51:420:51:44

At 45 against you all.

0:51:450:51:47

At 45, looking for 50 to sell it.

0:51:470:51:50

At £45 against you all.

0:51:500:51:52

A good lot, these ones.

0:51:520:51:55

-He's trying, isn't he?

-Mm.

0:51:550:51:57

At 45. If you are interested, see us afterwards.

0:51:570:52:01

-Not quite enough.

-Oh, OK. That's...

0:52:010:52:04

I mean, it's a real shame cos they're super quality.

0:52:040:52:06

-But a sign of the times.

-You're stuck with them at the moment!

0:52:060:52:10

Maybe I'll have another look at them,

0:52:100:52:12

based on what you've told me today, actually.

0:52:120:52:14

-Maybe I didn't love them enough!

-Go and have another look.

0:52:140:52:16

-I mean, he was a canny businessman as well.

-He was.

0:52:160:52:19

He would display his prints and you'd pay £1 to go and see them.

0:52:190:52:21

Maybe that's what you should do at home. £1 a view!

0:52:210:52:24

-£1 a visit!

-I'll open the front door!

-Yeah.

0:52:240:52:27

-Knock-knock-knock.

-Open studio, all round Rachel's.

0:52:270:52:30

-Discount for you two, OK?!

-Oh, we're in!

-Special entry.

0:52:300:52:33

Well, you don't get an offer like that every day.

0:52:330:52:36

Here's hoping Rachel does learn to love them.

0:52:360:52:38

Now, we're all on tenterhooks

0:52:380:52:40

to find out how the gold price is doing.

0:52:400:52:42

Pauline's gold bracelet.

0:52:420:52:44

Let's talk about the ever-changing values of bullion

0:52:440:52:46

because it does fluctuate, this market.

0:52:460:52:49

It does and there's many things which make it fluctuate.

0:52:490:52:51

-One of those things, strangely, is the stock market.

-Sure.

0:52:510:52:54

If the stock market's having a really bad day, gold goes up.

0:52:540:52:57

-Everyone invests in gold.

-Absolutely.

0:52:570:52:59

And also the other thing which changes with gold price

0:52:590:53:01

is our exchange rate with the dollar,

0:53:010:53:03

-because gold is valued in dollars.

-Sure, yeah.

0:53:030:53:06

And so, if the pound is strong against the dollar,

0:53:060:53:08

the gold price is low, vice versa.

0:53:080:53:10

You can see what happens.

0:53:100:53:12

Here, this is valued at £20 a gram,

0:53:120:53:14

where the little clasp is valued at 12.

0:53:140:53:17

So instantly it's worth an awful lot more money.

0:53:170:53:19

We've put it in at £300-500,

0:53:190:53:21

-with a reserve of 300.

-OK.

0:53:210:53:23

-But actually, it's a very wearable piece.

-That is, isn't it?

0:53:230:53:25

And I'm sure that will not go to melt.

0:53:250:53:27

-No.

-That's a nice thing.

0:53:270:53:29

-Fingers crossed we get the top end of the estimate.

-I hope so.

0:53:290:53:33

Well, that's good news

0:53:330:53:34

and Pauline's brought along her daughter Zoe

0:53:340:53:37

for moral support.

0:53:370:53:38

Here's hoping she gets top dollar for that bracelet.

0:53:380:53:42

-I've probably worn it twice...

-Is that all?

-..which is why it's sat in the cupboard for years and years.

0:53:420:53:46

Well now, let me work out who's next in line.

0:53:460:53:49

It's you, Zoe. Right?

0:53:490:53:50

And this is your inheritance Mum's flogging!

0:53:500:53:52

-Yeah. She just...

-Do you want it at all?

0:53:520:53:55

Not really. I think I'd prefer the money.

0:53:550:53:58

You don't like gold, obviously.

0:53:580:54:00

-No.

-No, we normally wear white gold or silver.

0:54:000:54:03

OK. Here we go, let's put it to the test.

0:54:030:54:05

It's going under the hammer now.

0:54:050:54:07

Lot 45 and this is this gold curb link bracelet.

0:54:070:54:09

I can start the bidding with me, here.

0:54:090:54:12

Straight in at 240 with me.

0:54:120:54:13

240, 240 I have.

0:54:130:54:15

At 240, 260, 280 with me.

0:54:150:54:18

300 and I'm out.

0:54:180:54:19

At 300, I have here.

0:54:190:54:21

At 300, it's in the room. Against you all at £300.

0:54:210:54:24

Selling then, at £300...

0:54:240:54:26

-Yes!

-Brilliant.

-That's good, isn't it?

0:54:260:54:28

-You're happy?

-Yeah, it's good news.

0:54:280:54:30

-Both of you.

-Absolutely, yes.

0:54:300:54:32

-Zoe's working it out!

-LAUGHTER

0:54:320:54:34

-"Will Mum really let me have a share in that?!"

-It'll be shared.

0:54:340:54:39

Neville, Elizabeth, fingers crossed, OK?

0:54:480:54:50

The bronze horse, a touch of the Far East,

0:54:500:54:52

-is just about to go under the hammer here in Newbury.

-Yeah.

0:54:520:54:55

And I think this is the right area to sell this in.

0:54:550:54:57

We're right by the racecourse, it's just down the road.

0:54:570:54:59

-Lambourn is up the road as well. All the gallops are around here.

-Uh-huh.

0:54:590:55:03

-It's a bit sporty.

-Yeah, let's hope it will generate some interest.

0:55:030:55:06

-Yeah, hope so.

-Yeah.

-Well, let's put this one to the test, shall we?

0:55:060:55:09

-The horse is just about to go under the hammer.

-OK.

0:55:090:55:12

Lot number 385, and this is this modern Chinese

0:55:120:55:15

bronze figure of a horse, mark to underside.

0:55:150:55:18

Bids here with me and I start this one at £55.

0:55:180:55:21

At 55. 60. And five with me.

0:55:210:55:24

At 65, against you all at 65.

0:55:240:55:26

70...5. 80. 80 we've got in the room.

0:55:260:55:29

At £80. Into the room first, then we'll go to the telephones.

0:55:290:55:32

-£80. Brilliant.

-Yeah.

-Any advance at £80, is in the room?

0:55:320:55:36

5! 90...5. 100.

0:55:360:55:39

110. 120.

0:55:390:55:42

130. 140.

0:55:420:55:44

-150.

-Oh, brilliant.

-160.

0:55:440:55:46

170. 180.

0:55:460:55:49

190. 200.

0:55:490:55:52

210. Go on!

0:55:520:55:55

No, are you sure? One more?

0:55:550:55:57

220?

0:55:570:55:58

230. Are you sure?

0:56:020:56:04

At £230, make no mistake, on the telephone.

0:56:040:56:07

£230, against you all. Selling, then.

0:56:070:56:10

230.

0:56:100:56:11

-Brilliant!

-Well done.

-Fantastic, yeah!

0:56:110:56:14

Trade was done in Newbury!

0:56:140:56:15

-Thank you very much!

-You're welcome, that's brilliant!

0:56:150:56:18

-They liked it. It was the right market.

-That's right.

-Yeah!

0:56:180:56:20

It shows the influence of telephone bidders on the auction too.

0:56:200:56:23

-Of course.

-It's the telephone against the room.

-That's right.

0:56:230:56:26

-It GALLOPED away!

-Aw!

-LAUGHTER

0:56:260:56:29

'It certainly did! First past the post!'

0:56:290:56:32

Going under the hammer right now

0:56:340:56:36

an Art Deco, Austrian gypsy face mask belonging to Jade.

0:56:360:56:39

And all the money is going to charity.

0:56:390:56:41

Tell us about it, Jade.

0:56:410:56:42

OK, I work for a local charity shop, a cancer shop.

0:56:420:56:45

-Luckily you were in town.

-Good opportunity.

0:56:450:56:47

We brought along and it seems it's a nice item. Let's hope it does well.

0:56:470:56:50

-Yeah, let's hope it gets top dollar.

-Yeah.

0:56:500:56:52

It's an interesting looking, unusual item.

0:56:520:56:54

-You're not going to see another one tomorrow.

-No, exactly.

0:56:540:56:57

I mean, with these sort of face masks...

0:56:570:56:59

very sort of Art Deco, that sort of thing.

0:56:590:57:01

So, you know, very on trend, hopefully.

0:57:010:57:03

So I'm hoping we get some good money for you.

0:57:030:57:06

Let's hope Thomas can help us out right now.

0:57:060:57:07

Here we go, here we go!

0:57:070:57:09

Very Goldscheider, lovely looking thing.

0:57:090:57:12

I can start the bidding with me, here,

0:57:120:57:14

straight in at £35. 40...5.

0:57:140:57:17

50...5. 65. I end up at 65.

0:57:170:57:20

-The room comes in, here.

-One more, one more!

-70...5.

0:57:200:57:23

80...5. 90...5.

0:57:230:57:26

Look, he's got a bid on the books, a commission bid.

0:57:260:57:28

-He keeps working that book.

-120, 130.

0:57:280:57:31

-Good auctioneering.

-Go on!

-Come on, tell them it's for charity.

0:57:310:57:34

130 against you all.

0:57:340:57:36

On the book, here, at 130. At 130.

0:57:360:57:39

A good result. £130!

0:57:390:57:42

-What a result!

-The hammer's gone down

0:57:420:57:43

-and that money goes to charity.

-Brilliant.

-Isn't that good?

0:57:430:57:46

Fantastic. And we've got Gift Aid,

0:57:460:57:47

-which gives 28% on top. It's fantastic.

-Exactly,

0:57:470:57:49

so it's really even more than £130.

0:57:490:57:51

-Yeah, so...wow.

-Brilliant.

-150 quid we've got for it.

-Aw-w!

0:57:510:57:54

-Well, look, keep your eyes peeled, won't you?

-I'm all emotional!

0:57:540:57:57

It's brilliant!

0:57:570:57:58

-Thank you so much.

-If you want to have something valued,

0:57:580:58:01

bring it along to one of our valuation days.

0:58:010:58:03

I'm sure our experts will help you out.

0:58:030:58:04

Who knows, you could make a small fortune at auction as well.

0:58:040:58:07

We will be coming to a town close to you shortly,

0:58:070:58:10

so keep an eye out for us.

0:58:100:58:11

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