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Today we're in Sussex, at Herstmonceux Castle.

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Just look at that for a backdrop - isn't that magnificent?

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That's home to our valuation day

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and hundreds of loyal fans who've turned up from far and wide.

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Welcome to Flog It!

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Herstmonceux Castle is a stunning building

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which has served many purposes over its 700 year history.

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It's been a grand home for medieval lords of the manor,

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a tourist-attracting ruin for Victorians, and even offices

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for an insurance company during World War II.

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Today, it's a university campus,

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with students coming from all over the world to study in the stunningly

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unique surroundings which we're also enjoying today.

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Look at this, what a turnout we have today.

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Hundreds of people have turned up,

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laden with bags and boxes full of antiques and treasures.

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They are here to see our experts,

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to ask that all important question, which is...

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-ALL:

-What's it worth?

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And if you're happy with the valuation, what are you going to do?

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-ALL:

-Flog It!

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With so many items to sift through, our experts are not wasting any time.

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Today we've got James Lewis,

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who is so on it he can spot the best antiques still in their boxes.

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-Gold pocket watch?

-Correct. How did you guess?

-Perfect!

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Good morning.

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And joining him, welcoming our visitors, is Jonathan Pratt.

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Although he may need to be careful with some!

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BARK LAUGHTER

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Well, everyone seems to be having great fun out here,

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but that's not how it works.

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We need to get all these lovely people inside and get the show started.

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First on the menu, a little taster of what's coming up later in the show.

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Jonathan unearths an antique that was picked up for a bargain price.

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-I paid £4.99.

-£4.99! Gosh.

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James is even more amazed by his keen-eyed treasure hunter.

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-How much did you pay?

-50p.

-You're joking?

-I did, 50p.

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And I discover a little-known story of British wartime ingenuity.

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It was something that only the British would ever have thought of inventing.

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I think we're the only nation who would come up with something as mad as this.

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There's not a moment to lose.

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So, as everyone gets settled, we can begin.

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-Having a good time, everyone? ALL:

-Yes.

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That's what it's all about. We're going to crack on with our first valuation.

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Who is that lucky owner going to be?

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We're going to find out right now as we join up with our experts.

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Jackie, whenever I see porcelain like this...

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..it makes me remember how lucky we are, actually, to have it.

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-We take it totally for granted today, don't we?

-Yeah.

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But the factory that made these was the factory that first made porcelain in Europe.

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Let's go back to the early 18th century.

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Porcelain was incredibly expensive.

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It had to be imported from a long way away.

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Eventually, in around 1710,

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there was a chap called Bottger who produced the first-ever European porcelain at Meissen.

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So we are looking at a really important factory.

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These are, though, as I'm sure you know, later.

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They are 19th century.

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Do you know how long you've had them in your family?

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Well, I can remember them at least 65 years.

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-OK.

-They were given to my grandparents by their neighbours,

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who collected a lot of porcelain and china.

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And they were very kind and they gave them several pieces.

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Well, let's start with this one.

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They're all little cherubs.

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And here we have four of them, and they're allegorical of the four seasons.

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We have this little chap, with his fruiting vines.

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He represents autumn.

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Just behind him, we have summer, holding the wheat sheaves.

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And we have spring with, again,

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a floral chaplet, this time, in his hair.

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And look at the final one.

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He's got his cloak and, of course, he is winter.

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The second group, again, it could well have been for the seasons.

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-Because we've got him...

-Yep.

-..on his sledge, so clearly winter.

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So, how do we know they're Meissen?

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Loads of people copied the Meissen marks,

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but what you need to look for, of this period,

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is a combination of the crossed swords mark in blue,

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and then an incise number,

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and maybe a stamp number and a design number in red as well.

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So, when you see all four together,

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that's when you know that you're looking at a piece of 19th-century Meissen.

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What are they doing here? Why are you selling them?

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Well, the children don't want them.

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And I just think that somebody who perhaps collects Meissen

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would like to add them to their collection.

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-Time to let them go?

-Yes.

-Well, let's think in terms of value.

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-We've got a bit of damage, but generally not too bad.

-No.

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So, I think we should put a reserve of...

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£350 on them.

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-Right.

-And an auction estimate of 400-600.

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-Right. OK.

-How do you feel?

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Yes, I thought they were worth a little bit more than that.

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What did you think they were worth?

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I don't know, because they're not perfect, I appreciate that.

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I think it's a conservative estimate, but I think it's realistic.

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-OK.

-Would you like to put the reserve slightly up?

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-Do you want to put that at 400?

-Yes, let's put it at 400.

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Let's do that. Let's do that.

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And, you know, I think they'll do OK.

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They'll go to a new home.

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Those are lovely figurines to get our auction collection started.

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Let's see what Jonathan has found to add to the mix.

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-Well, hello, Erica.

-Hello.

-You've brought a lovely object along here,

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very pretty lady in there. Where did you find her?

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I was very lucky and I found her about ten years ago in a charity shop.

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When people say they found something in a charity shop,

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it means they didn't pay very much money for it.

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-No, I didn't pay much at all. I paid £4.99.

-£4.99?

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Is that what you do quite a lot of, you like looking through charity shops and trying to find things?

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-Or is it just buying what you like?

-I'm generally a hoarder.

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-Are you?

-I've inherited it.

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My mother was a hoarder, and so was my grandmother.

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It is jewellery, jewellery is the thing.

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I mean that's not a bad thing to hoard.

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And I have photos of my great grandmother wearing the jewellery that I wear now.

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I don't think there's anything wrong in hoarding that sort of stuff.

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It's lovely. So I've been lucky.

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I think, to have gone to a charity shop and found that for 4.99,

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you obviously have an eye for things.

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-Thank you.

-Do you know anything about it?

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Nothing at all, no.

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It's a great thing. The enamel itself is very, very pretty.

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A very pretty girl in a straw hat and red hooded cloak.

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And she's carrying a bundle of twigs or sticks or something under her right arm.

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She looks very rosy cheeked and Victorian.

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I think it's beautiful. I really do love it.

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I think she's a pretty girl and it's a bit cheeky as well.

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This is something else.

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-Her blouse is just popping open a little bit down there as well.

-Oh, I never noticed that.

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-You know...

-Me looking at her yellow bonnet.

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Exactly. I'm sorry, but, you know, you're looking at the bonnet and...

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You know, there we are. That's a father of four for you.

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She was very much the sort of character you might find in a Victorian painting

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in the sort of 1860s, 1870s, that sort of date.

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Second half of the 19th century.

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The process for producing the panel - it's a copper back.

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It's enamel on top.

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And then there's some detail, I think, which has been put in.

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Like the stripes on the sleeves, in green paint.

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But the whole thing has this great finish.

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-Beautiful condition. Not signed.

-No.

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Not marked. But I'd expect it to be gold.

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-Right.

-So, being a hoarder...

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You're going to ask me why am I getting rid of her.

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-Yes.

-Because I really won't wear her.

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-You won't?

-No, I won't.

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And I came today because I wanted to find out if she was real.

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-Yeah.

-I thought she looked too good to be true, really.

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-Yeah.

-I don't have a sentimental attachment to her.

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My feeling is it's OK.

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In its entirety, it's a really good thing.

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I would say, gosh, 4.99.

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I don't know. What do I say?

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I would happily say £200 to £300.

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Wow!

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Put a reserve of £200 on it.

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I'm really thrilled.

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-Thank you.

-Good.

-I shall buy some more jewellery.

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Words of a true hoarder.

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You know, I live in hope that one day I'll find something

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just as amazing in a charity shop. In the meantime,

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I've got something equally thrilling to keep me going,

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unearthing treasures brought into the show.

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Brenda and Martin, thank you so much for coming in today.

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Not only has this location made my day, but this item has as well.

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This is fantastic.

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We're looking at an oil on canvas by David Roberts,

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one of the greatest Scottish artists.

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How did you come by it?

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This was hanging on the wall in my grandparents' house in Malvern in

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Worcestershire, and then it came down to my mother.

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-When she died we inherited the house.

-Where has it been?

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Sitting behind the sofa bed in my son's old bedroom.

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-Shame on you. A David Roberts.

-I know.

-Royal Academy member.

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One of the greatest artists. Someone who is in vogue right now...

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I know he was famous! But you know...

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And he's behind your sofa bed!

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We were about to bring it out and hang it.

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Can I please, please take this off your lap and...

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-Do.

-..hold it and caress it and enjoy it for ten minutes.

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For ten minutes, it can be mine!

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THEY LAUGH

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I think this is so exciting. This is absolutely lovely.

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It really is. And looking at this,

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you can see he is heavily influenced by Turner.

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-Yes.

-You can see that sunset.

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You can see the colours, can't you? He became a friend of Turner's.

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He encouraged David Roberts to get out to Egypt,

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to the near East and to North Africa...

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That's the Nile. That's the sunset on the Nile, isn't it?

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-Yes.

-Do you know what those boats are called?

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-Feluccas.

-Yes, good on you. I was just going to tell you that.

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But, look, this is exciting, it's absolutely brilliant.

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And it is signed, David Roberts, Royal Academy, and it's 1851.

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This was at the height of his career.

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His name is so sought after.

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I personally think this is worth £8,000.

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This is absolutely lovely.

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Thank you so much. This is so exciting.

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-You've made my day.

-Thank you.

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Brenda and Martin's painting isn't going to auction,

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but what a treat for us to see it.

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And it gets to stay in the family for another generation.

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In the meantime,

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our team have been busy searching for items to take off to auction.

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So let's see what Jonathan has found.

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-Welcome, Jim.

-Thank you.

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-You've brought a lovely watch along.

-I hope so.

-So, is this your watch?

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Well, yeah, it is. It was my grandfather's.

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-Yes.

-And previous to that, it was his grandfather's.

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So it goes back quite a while.

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So, your grandfather, great grandfather, great-great-grandfather.

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-That's right.

-All right, OK. It's a very nice watch.

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18-carat gold.

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Hallmark smack on the top there.

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Let's take it out of the box.

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The important things about watches are dials...

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They can either be sort of porcelain or enamel.

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That little button on the side there starts and stops it, OK?

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-OK.

-No way to reset it,

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it is simply a start-stop mechanism on the second hand.

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-OK, so similar to a stopwatch.

-Similar to a stopwatch.

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Case is in nice order.

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Pop into the back. So, this is the inscription presented to your

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-great-great-grandfather.

-That's right, yes.

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George Davies.

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-Yes.

-By Tyndale & Co Solicitors, of Birmingham,

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in recognition of 50 years faithful and devoted service.

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-Well, there we are.

-26th February, 1902.

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Well, look at that. 50 years of service and you get yourself a gold watch.

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-What do you get today?

-Probably a book token or something.

-Yes. A nice...

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A nice watch. So you've got a model number on there.

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-Or movement number.

-Right.

-But other than that...

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..there's nothing else to say...

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-Who made it?

-..who made it. You know,

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very often on the dial you will see something or on the movement

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you will see something or even on the case you'd see something.

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But it's a nice quality 18-carat pocket watch.

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Sitting on a nine-carat chain.

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Every link is marked. You can see the difference of colour.

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-Yeah.

-Slightly, you know, more of a copper colour because it's got copper in it.

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You know, that's more pure.

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Nice presentation gift for 50 years' service.

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-Very good, isn't it?

-So, why are you getting rid of it?

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What's going to happen to it when I go?

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-I've got a daughter.

-Yeah.

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But she's not really interested in a pocket watch. So...

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-No, maybe not.

-I think sadly it's time to move on.

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Time, indeed. So, value wise, there are two elements to the value.

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Yes.

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First one is the watch, second one is the chain.

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So, you know, it's quite a heavy chain.

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And obviously there's the gold value and then people do like these things anyway,

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so they will pay a little bit more maybe than gold value.

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So the watch is probably worth around the £400-600 mark.

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-Right.

-The chain is worth probably £400.

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-Oh, really?

-So, you are looking at a combined value,

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presented in its case as well,

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of, you know, upwards to £1,000.

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£800-1,200.

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And at that, I would suggest maybe let's put an 800 reserve on it.

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-Yeah, I'd go with that.

-And if it doesn't sell, your daughter can have it.

-Think so.

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-Lovely, thanks a lot.

-Thank you very much.

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Well, this is where it gets exciting.

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This is where we change gear. Our experts have now found

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their first three items to take off to auction.

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Anything could happen. Do not go away.

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Fingers crossed we are going to have one or two big surprises.

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We are making our way over to the saleroom and we are going to

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leave you with a run down just to jog your memory of all the items

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that are going under the hammer.

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Meissen figurines are always popular with the collectors.

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So we are hoping these two will fetch a decent figure at auction.

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Erica's brooch is a fabulous charity shop find.

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All it needs now is the right buyer to find it in the saleroom.

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And Jim's gold watch, given for 50 years of loyal service,

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should go pretty quickly through the auction.

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And we're taking our items east

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across Sussex, to the pretty fishing town of Rye.

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Rising up above the scenic levels of the Romney marshes, for centuries

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Rye was an important part of the country's coastal defences.

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Inside today's saleroom at Rye Auction Galleries,

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the lots are already flying through,

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with Kevin Wall in charge of the proceedings.

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If you are heading to auction,

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remember there is always commission to pay,

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and today it is 15% plus VAT.

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And first up are Jacqueline's pair of nearly perfect Meissen figures.

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-There is a bit of damage, isn't there?

-There is, unfortunately.

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-How did that happen? Was it the kids?

-Well, before me.

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But these will give somebody the opportunity that can't afford a perfect one.

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Cos turned round, you don't notice the damage.

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No, exactly. Just keep turning it!

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Two 19th-century Meissen figural groups.

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The woodcutter with sled,

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the other of four childlike figures, to include Bacchus.

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I've got 200. 220.

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250. 280.

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-To start, at 280.

-Come on.

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300. 320. 340?

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It's on the internet, are we?

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340. 360.

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-380. 400.

-Yes!

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At 380 here.

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At 380. 400, do I see?

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400 in the middle row.

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I've got you, sir. At 400 now.

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At 400. Do I see 420?

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At 400. It's in the middle, I've got.

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At £400...

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Yes, well done, James.

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-Thank you very much.

-It was close but we did it.

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And you didn't want to take them home, did you?

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-No, I didn't.

-No.

-Thank you very much, James.

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That's all right. Thank you for bringing them in as well.

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That's a great start for our lots.

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Let's hope that brooch can continue the trend.

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Right, so far, so good.

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We are going to turn £4.99 into £200-300

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with the help of Jonathan and Erica here. There are bargains out there.

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You've just got to make sure you're in the right place at the right time.

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-It's just chance, isn't it?

-It is.

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And you've got to go with your gut feeling.

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-But they are still there.

-They are still there.

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OK. We are going to find out what the bidders think right now.

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This is it.

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Portrait miniature on enamel plaque depicting a girl in a yellow bonnet

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carrying a basket.

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There it is. Very pretty.

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I've got 120 to start.

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120. 130.

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140. 150.

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160. 170.

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180. 190.

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At 200, I'm out.

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At 200 here. At 200.

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-Do I see 210 now?

-That's good.

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Lovely little brooch. At £200.

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It's still in the room.

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At £200. Are we all done?

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And finished at 200...?

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On the money there, Jonathan. Well done, you. £4.99 into £200.

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-Well done.

-Thank you.

-It doesn't get much better than that, does it?

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-Well done. Yeah, well done.

-Very pleased, thank you.

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Our experts have been spot-on so far.

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Two lots that have sold right on the money.

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Will John's watch buck the trend?

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Well, that's it, time is up. No, it's not the end of the show.

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Time is up for Jim and his gold open-faced pocket watch

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which is going under the hammer.

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It's been in the family many generations, hasn't it?

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It has, yes. It was my great-great-grandfather's.

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And you're the last chap, your daughter doesn't want it.

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-That's right.

-It's got to go.

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-It's got to go.

-It's been in the kitchen drawer,

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all of these things end up in a big kitchen drawer somewhere, don't they?

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-Absolutely.

-It's a lovely thing.

-Great thing. Great thing.

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-Condition is good.

-It's all good.

-It's going under the hammer right now.

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We are going to find out what the bidders think. This is it.

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An Edwardian 18-carat gold pocket watch with white enamel dial,

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set with Roman numerals.

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And I start it at 500. 550.

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600. 650.

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700. 750. 800 here.

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850. 900. 950.

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1,000. 1,050.

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Gosh!

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1,100.

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1,050 here. 1,050, I am bid.

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At 1,050, are we all done and finished here?

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At 1,050.

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-£1,050 coming your way.

-Thank you.

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Well, thank you for bringing it in. That was a nice thing. I liked that.

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So, do you now have to give the proceeds to one of the children?

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-No, it's all mine.

-Good.

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Well, there we are. You've just seen them.

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Our first three lots under the hammer.

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And we are coming back here later on in the programme, but before we

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join up with our experts to look for more treasures at the valuation day,

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I had a chance to take a trip up the coast from Rye to uncover the story

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about one of the most remarkable feats of British engineering during the Second World War.

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This is the Dungeness coastline in the south of Kent.

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It's an incredibly strategic part of the UK from a military perspective.

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Over there, 30 miles across, is the coastline of France.

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That stretch of water, the English Channel,

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became a hiding place for one of the most amazing achievements of the

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Second World War - Operation Pluto.

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Pluto stands for Pipeline Under The Ocean,

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and it was an audacious way of getting fuel to the Allied forces invading France.

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All military manoeuvres need soldiers and equipment,

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but it's easy to forget that they, in turn, need fuel.

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Like so many operations of the war,

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Pluto was kept under a veil of secrecy and still remains relatively

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unknown, but what exactly was Pluto?

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As the Second World War dragged on,

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the Allied forces planned to launch D-Day,

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a massive invasion of the Normandy beaches of France in 1944.

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To say it was going to be big is an understatement.

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Within just a few weeks,

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nearly a third of a million troops and over 54,000 vehicles would sweep

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across the English Channel and flood into France, hoping to

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storm across Western Europe and achieve victory against Germany.

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However, without a reliable supply of fuel,

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all those vehicles would quickly grind to a halt.

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The problem of getting it to them was a logistical nightmare.

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The solution was breathtakingly simple, but daring and dangerous -

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to lay hundreds of miles of pipeline underneath the English Channel

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to France, without being spotted by the enemy.

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But nothing like this had ever been attempted and there were all manner of problems to overcome.

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The first being to create a new kind of pipe that was flexible enough

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to roll out across the sea bed,

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and yet could withstand being hurled against rocks by strong currents.

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The pipe had to be incredibly strong to withstand the pressure of huge

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amounts of oil being pumped through it, and the pressure of being

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at the bottom of the English Channel.

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Now, this had to be laid quickly

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but laying pipe at sea is an incredibly slow process,

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and any ships doing it could be picked off by the Luftwaffe.

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Work on the special pipes started in early 1942, and within just a year

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after many tests and failures, two suitable solutions were found.

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One was a tough but flexible steel tubing called the Hammill pipe.

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The other was layers and layers of lead, steel, hemp and bitumen,

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bound together to create the Hayes cable.

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Adrian Searle is a historian who has written extensively about Project Pluto.

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Adrian, is that a bit of the Pluto pipe?

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Yeah, this is the original concept.

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-This is the Hayes cable.

-Heavy.

-It's heavy. Yes.

-Can you imagine?

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That bit is heavy, but can you imagine it being six feet long

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-and trying to pick it up?

-Precisely. I wouldn't want to pick it up.

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And that's lead in there. That's lead on the inside.

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You have a lead interior, it's based on a hollowed out telegraphic cable.

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It was a very expensive thing to produce.

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I was about to say, that must have cost a fortune.

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-Absolutely.

-Where did all the lead come from, off the church roofs?

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-Some of it may well have done, actually.

-Gutters, downpipes...

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We can joke about that, but I suspect that's not too far from the truth.

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For every mile, it would have taken 50 tonnes of lead.

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-How and where was this made?

-Every cable manufacturer in this country,

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and later from the States as well, had to suspend

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all their usual commercial rivalries to work together

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to produce the phenomenal lengths of cable that were needed.

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-So factories all over the UK?

-All over the UK.

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The grand plan was to run four pipelines from the Isle of Wight to

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Cherbourg, and another 17 lines from here in Dungeness to Boulogne,

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30 miles across the Channel.

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In total, that meant nearly 800 miles of pipeline being laid out

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across the most dangerous strip of water in war-torn Europe.

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Production went full steam ahead and within just a year,

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all the lengths were ready,

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including one piece that was 40 miles long

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and weighed over 2,000 tonnes.

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The biggest challenge still lay ahead -

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how to lay the pipe quickly and carefully.

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The solution was jaw-dropping.

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-It had to be laid, uncoiled from an enormous floating cotton reel, one might say.

-Gosh!

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There were four of them. They were called HMS Conundrum.

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They must have been massive.

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They certainly were. About 40 feet tall,

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weighing someone in the region of 250 tonnes,

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and able to carry around about 40 miles of the flexible steel pipe.

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Enormous thing.

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The next critical step of the operation was pumping

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the oil to France without the enemy finding out.

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The answer was to have pumping stations set along the coast

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but disguised as houses, garages and even ice cream parlours.

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These two Art Deco houses were requisitioned by the army

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and turned into pumping stations for Project Pluto.

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Hugh Shere lives here now,

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and has researched how his house was adapted for its secret role.

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The house was completely gutted.

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You can see how thick the walls were.

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Oh, I can. It's like that.

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That wall is 25 inches.

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The one down the bottom is 25 inches.

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Girders were put on from end to end.

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So the whole bungalow can be stripped out

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but leave the outside the same

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so that reconnaissance air planes couldn't see what was going on.

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-Yeah.

-Pumps were inside. Nobody knew they were there.

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And this is a photograph of the house before you bought it.

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Yeah, that's in about '42, when the builders were just beginning...

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You've even got a spade and jacket there.

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A lot of work was put into this, wasn't it?

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Yeah, a lot of work. Yeah, it makes you feel very proud.

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It's a bit of secret history, which helped to win the war.

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So I've got one little... One little bit of that.

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Now all the elements of Operation Pluto were in place.

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Thousands of people had worked in total secrecy to help make it

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possible, and in June 1944 the invasion of France was launched.

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Once it was fully operational, operating from here,

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it became extremely successful.

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By the early summer of 1945,

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round about a million gallons was flowing through Pluto,

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which made all the difference and helped the Allied forces move

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progressively further away from the Normandy beaches.

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So yes, it was a tremendous, tremendous achievement.

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It was something that only the British would ever have thought of inventing.

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I think we're the only nation that would come up with something as mad as this.

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But make it work. And we should be eternally, I think,

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proud of the people that came up with this idea

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and developed it. Very British.

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Within a year of D-Day, the Allied forces had achieved victory.

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Six years of brutal war in Europe had finally come to an end.

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And Project Pluto had quietly played its part in helping achieve success.

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Sir Winston Churchill, who gave the idea his full backing, said of it,

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"Operation Pluto was a remarkable feat of British engineering,

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"distinguished in its originality,

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"pursued with tenacity and crowned off with complete success.

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"And it's this creative energy that helped to win the war."

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Welcome back to our valuation day at Herstmonceaux Castle.

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As you can see, the ballroom is still very, very busy.

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So let's now join up with our experts and see what other treasures

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we can find to take off to auction.

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First up, it's James Lewis.

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We all have objects that we love and periods that we love, and for me,

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I love the Grand Tour,

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I love the late 18th century, early 19th century,

0:27:470:27:50

and, John, what you've brought along today is exactly that.

0:27:500:27:53

It's a lovely little thing.

0:27:530:27:55

-Where did you find it?

-A boot sale find.

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Where am I when these are at car-boot sales?!

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-Dear me.

-Just luck.

-Right, how much did you pay?

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-50p.

-Oh, you're joking.

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I did. 50p. I knew what it was, as soon as I saw it.

0:28:060:28:08

Oh, brilliant!

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Well, what we are looking at is a piece of Grand Tour micro-mosaic...

0:28:100:28:15

-Yes.

-Would have been made somewhere between 1820, 1840...

0:28:150:28:20

-Oh, yes.

-Somewhere around there.

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-With a black slate base as a desk weight.

-Yes.

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And the fineness of the micro-mosaic, really,

0:28:260:28:30

-as well as its subject, denote its value.

-Yes.

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The finer the mosaic, the smaller the pieces, the better.

0:28:330:28:36

-Yes. Yes.

-And also the subject. The subject here...

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-We are looking at something that everybody will recognise.

-Oh, yes.

0:28:390:28:42

-The Colosseum in Rome.

-Yes.

-One of the most incredible buildings.

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This was a copy for the tourists to buy in the early 19th century...

0:28:470:28:51

-Yes.

-..to bring home and to show everybody, "Look what is in southern Europe."

0:28:510:28:55

-Yes.

-And an incredible little thing.

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-It would have been expensive in its day.

-Would it? Yes?

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The method of manufacture for micro-mosaics is also quite

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interesting, because there is one way of placing each individual piece

0:29:040:29:09

into the ground of the desk weight

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and they tend to be slightly coarser.

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The other way is to have all of the canes of glass next to each other

0:29:160:29:22

-in a huge pattern, and slice them individually.

-Yes.

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And by doing that, you can make lots and lots and lots of patterns.

0:29:260:29:30

-Right, yes.

-Exactly the same. A little bit like a stick of rock.

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-Yes, yes.

-So it's a really fabulous technique.

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It's incredible, really.

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Yes. It's lovely.

0:29:380:29:40

I've been to the Vatican...

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-Yes.

-And at the gates of the Vatican, there's an outlet where

0:29:420:29:45

they are making them and there's nothing as intricate as that.

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-No, the 19th century ones are the best.

-Yes. Yes.

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-Wonderful.

-Blimey.

0:29:500:29:53

I can't believe you found it in a car-boot sale.

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Yes. They are still out there.

0:29:550:29:57

I haven't found anything since.

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-Keep looking!

-If that came in at my auction house,

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I would put £80-120 on it.

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-Yes.

-Expecting it to make towards the upper end.

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-Yes.

-Now, how would you feel about that?

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-Well, I think I'd rather keep it. Is that all right?

-OK. Absolutely.

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Now, what would you want to have for it, for it to be saleable?

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180?

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It's got a chance at that, you know. It has got a chance.

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-Yes.

-If we put...

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..150 reserve, and an auction estimate of 150-250...

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-Yes, OK.

-Would that be all right?

-Yeah, that would be fine. Yeah, yeah.

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Well, for 50p, you've got a great... You've got a great profit there.

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-Yes. Yes. True.

-Well done.

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But it will take a lot to find another.

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It would, yeah. I shall never find another one.

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That's what I love about antiques -

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gems like that mosaic can turn up almost anywhere.

0:30:500:30:53

I wonder where Jonathan's next find was discovered.

0:30:530:30:56

Well, good afternoon, Audrey and Claire.

0:30:560:30:59

-Hello.

-Hello.

-You've brought along this pot,

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which I can immediately identify just from the style of it

0:31:010:31:06

as Doulton. Where did you find it?

0:31:060:31:09

I actually found it in my mum's shed after she had died.

0:31:090:31:13

-In a shed.

-In the shed, yes.

0:31:130:31:16

So, how long it had been there, I don't know.

0:31:160:31:19

-How long had she lived there?

-Since 1935.

0:31:190:31:23

So this has been in the shed, potentially, for quite a long time.

0:31:230:31:26

-Yeah, definitely.

-Your mother obviously didn't like it.

0:31:260:31:29

I don't know, to be quite honest.

0:31:290:31:31

I don't remember in my childhood seeing it indoors.

0:31:310:31:35

-No.

-She was a hoarder, almost.

0:31:350:31:37

You know, she would tuck away little things, bits and pieces.

0:31:370:31:40

Well, look, you've got this pot and you can see... The colours

0:31:400:31:43

and the style of it immediately tell you it is Doulton,

0:31:430:31:46

and it's typically Doulton of the late 19th century.

0:31:460:31:49

So down here, you've got the Doulton Lambeth mark.

0:31:490:31:52

You've got a date mark, that will tell you it's 1873.

0:31:520:31:54

And you've got a mark here for the decorator, called Harriet Hibbert.

0:31:540:31:58

It's not your normal style.

0:31:590:32:00

There's lots of symbols on this which are quite unusual,

0:32:000:32:03

I have to say. Bearing in mind this pot dates from 1873, and that time,

0:32:030:32:08

there's a lot of influence from the Far East, from Japan and China,

0:32:080:32:13

and so you've got what look like crows here,

0:32:130:32:16

sitting on a prunus, a flowering fruit tree, an apple tree.

0:32:160:32:20

But then you've also got this sort of little roundel here

0:32:200:32:23

-with a fish on.

-Yeah, I thought it was a fish.

0:32:230:32:25

Yeah. And here, you've got... This is the one that's...

0:32:250:32:28

It's facing me, as well, which is spooking me a little bit.

0:32:280:32:30

You've got this tiny little mouse, who is hiding in the brambles,

0:32:300:32:34

and the snake is just about to come down and eat him.

0:32:340:32:37

So it's been sitting in your shed, and you dug it out when?

0:32:370:32:42

-2004.

-So you found it in 2004?

0:32:420:32:44

-Yes.

-Has it been on display ever since?

0:32:440:32:46

-No.

-Do you not like it?

0:32:460:32:49

I haven't really got room for it, to be quite honest.

0:32:490:32:52

I think you've kind of got to like it really, haven't you?

0:32:520:32:55

Well, the value of it is determined by, you know, a few factors.

0:32:550:32:58

Obviously the age and decoration, and the name of the person who did it,

0:32:580:33:01

and also the condition, and we've got a few little nibbles

0:33:010:33:04

around the foot. So, if we were to say maybe it's £100-150...

0:33:040:33:09

-That's not bad actually.

-Not bad for a bit of...

0:33:090:33:13

-Digging it out of the shed.

-Yes.

0:33:130:33:15

And, you know, it may run on after that, but I think 100, £150 would be sensible.

0:33:150:33:20

-OK.

-And maybe let's put a reserve of £100 at the bottom.

0:33:200:33:23

-Yeah.

-And if it doesn't sell,

0:33:230:33:24

you can put it pride of place on your side table.

0:33:240:33:27

Make some room.

0:33:270:33:28

-I thought you were going to say "Put it back in the shed".

-Yes.

-Yes.

0:33:280:33:32

That vase definitely shouldn't go back in the shed.

0:33:320:33:35

It deserves to be seen and enjoyed, much like our last item of the day.

0:33:350:33:40

Well, I have to say, bears haven't been around in this part of England since about 1000AD.

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So, we know he's not an English bear.

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-Where is he from?

-I think it's Black Forest.

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That's far as I know.

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OK. And is it a family piece?

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It was my grandmother's. She had it sitting on the side there, and

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I always used to try and play with it, but she wouldn't let me.

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You remember it as a child and it's something you've had around you for

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-almost all your life, then.

-Yeah.

-This sort of traditional carving

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started in Switzerland, commercially,

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in the early part of the 19th century.

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There were lots of pieces like this shown at the 1851 exhibition.

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And the fashion and tradition for this sort of carving spread

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right the way through the Black Forest down into Germany

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and is still being done today.

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The biggest market for them is the USA.

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One of the reasons for that is when the troops came over

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in the First World War, the American troops,

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all those that were stationed there started buying these things

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and sending them home.

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And of course the Americans loved the bears, anyway.

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And they sent them home and spread the word of Black Forest carving.

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And when you're trying to value one of these chaps,

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it's all about the face.

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If he's an aggressive, mean, snarling bear, they actually,

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genuinely do make less at auction...

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-Oh, right.

-..than the friendly, happy bears.

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And he's a jolly, friendly, happy bear, isn't he?

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-Quite friendly, yes.

-Yeah.

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But the majority of the bears that we see at auction are 20th century.

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But this little chap, I should think he's going to be

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around 1890, 1895, something around there.

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He's set with glass eyes, he's waxed,

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and this has taken on a good patination.

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But the major problem with him is he's had the worm at some stage.

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He's covered all over his face and all over his front

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-with thousands of holes.

-Yes.

-But having said that,

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the front doesn't appear to have any great cracks in.

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But we have a problem with his bear behind.

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Because if we turn him round, I mean,

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most people's bottoms have a crack in a certain place,

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but I have to say it shouldn't be there!

0:35:500:35:52

HE LAUGHS

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And it does spread rather a long way up his back!

0:35:540:35:57

-Oh, dear.

-But he's great.

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And the majority of the value is what you would take from the front.

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So, why sell him?

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I've got nowhere to keep him now.

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I've downsized and he was just getting dust and cobwebs on him.

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-Aww, OK. Well, somebody will love him.

-Yeah.

0:36:130:36:16

I should think that he will make £100-150 in that condition.

0:36:160:36:23

Perfect, it would have been 300 or 400.

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But the work taken, we've got to take that into consideration

0:36:260:36:30

for the woodworm and 100-150 I think would be sensible.

0:36:300:36:32

-Is that OK?

-Yeah, that's good. That's good.

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Reserve of £100, put that on as a safety net.

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I'm hoping that when he comes up for sale,

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there'll be some bidding on the internet

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-and some interest from America as well.

-Excellent.

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Well, there you are, our experts have now found their final items

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to take off to the saleroom, so we have to say

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a sad farewell to Herstmonceux Castle,

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our magnificent host location.

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I've thoroughly enjoyed being here, I hope you've enjoyed it too,

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but right now it's straight over to the saleroom

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and here's a quick recap of all the items we're selling.

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John's micro-mosaic was bought for small change at the car-boot sale

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but it should definitely make big bucks today.

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Audrey's vase came out of the garden shed

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but can we find it a new owner and give it a new home?

0:37:160:37:20

And will Alan's wooden bear be a honey pot for the collectors?

0:37:200:37:23

Bear with us, we'll find out soon.

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Back at the saleroom, it's all eyes on Kevin Wall

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as he works his way through the lots.

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This is where we put our valuations to the test,

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and first in line is John's mosaic.

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This is one of my favourite items in the sale, the micro-mosaic work,

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the Colosseum in Rome, sort of early 1900s.

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It sums up the Grand Tour and it sums up

0:37:440:37:47

that all of this is out there.

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If you get up early, open your eyes, you can pick a bargain up.

0:37:490:37:52

-If you're lucky!

-How much was it?

-50p.

-50p!

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-Gosh.

-Not bad, was it?

-That wasn't bad.

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-Have you had many finds like that?

-Not really, that's the best. Yes.

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I love it. Look, I hope you do well, OK?

0:38:010:38:04

-You're going to make a lot more than 50p.

-Cheers!

0:38:040:38:06

Let's find out what the bidders think.

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-It's going under the hammer now.

-Brilliant.

0:38:070:38:10

The Victorian Grand Tour micro-mosaic brooch

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converted to a paperweight,

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depicting the Colosseum in Rome.

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And I start it at 85, 95, 100, 110.

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At 110, do I see 120 now?

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120, 130, 140, 150.

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-We're in.

-150 here, 160, 170, 180.

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At 180 on my right still.

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At 180, do I see 190 now?

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-It's climbed to 180.

-At £180 it's on the net.

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At £180, are we all done and finished?

0:38:400:38:43

At 180...

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180!

0:38:460:38:48

-Treat yourself, won't you?

-Yeah, I will!

0:38:480:38:51

Brilliant, well done.

0:38:510:38:54

That's a hefty profit margin for a 50p purchase,

0:38:540:38:57

a perfect Flog It! antique.

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Next up its Audrey and Claire's vase.

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Right, now we've got a bit of classic Lambeth Doulton going under

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the hammer belonging to Audrey and Claire.

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-And this was Mum's, wasn't it?

-It was, yes.

-In the shed.

-Yes.

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What did she put it in the shed for?!

0:39:120:39:14

She obviously didn't like it. I bet she didn't like it.

0:39:140:39:16

I really don't know.

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-Do you like it?

-Not enough to keep, no.

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Anyway, we're going to get this away, I know we are.

0:39:190:39:22

-Fingers crossed. Ready for this? BOTH:

-Yes.

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It's liberated from the shed and it's going to find a new home.

0:39:240:39:27

Somebody's going to love this.

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It's going under the hammer right now.

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It's a late 19th century Doulton Lambeth stoneware pedestal vase.

0:39:300:39:35

There it is and I've got 65, 70, 75.

0:39:350:39:38

At 75, do we see 80 now?

0:39:380:39:41

At 75, do I see 80?

0:39:410:39:43

-Come on, we need 100.

-We do need 100.

0:39:430:39:46

75, 80. No?

0:39:460:39:48

-At 75 then.

-No!

-Are we all done?

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You're sure and finished, nothing on the net?

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At 75... I'm afraid that's not sold.

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We didn't get enough. Look, Claire, how do you fancy inheriting this?

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I think we'll keep it for another couple of months.

0:40:040:40:07

-And then put it into another auction.

-Yeah.

-Give it another go.

0:40:070:40:10

-All right. Mum knows best.

-Yeah!

-Ever so sorry.

-Never mind.

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It's a shame about the vase but auctions are an uncertain affair

0:40:160:40:19

and that's half the fun.

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So, will our wooden bear do a roaring trade?

0:40:210:40:25

Going under the hammer right now, one of my favourite lots

0:40:250:40:28

in the sale. He's not a lot of money but I tell you what,

0:40:280:40:30

he's very charming.

0:40:300:40:32

-I'm not talking about Alan, but you are a charming guy.

-Thank you.

0:40:320:40:35

-And it's your little bear.

-It is.

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If I owned this, I wouldn't be selling it. I wouldn't, I love him!

0:40:360:40:40

Absolutely love him. I know he's been on the top of your bookcase.

0:40:400:40:42

-That's right, sitting there looking at me.

-Aww!

0:40:420:40:45

Who's going to buy this little bear? We're going to find out right now.

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It's going under the hammer.

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The 19th century carved Black Forest bear

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with facet moulded glass vase resting on a branch.

0:40:540:40:59

We start on commissions at 75, 85, 95, 100,

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110, 120, 130 I'm bid.

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At 140, 150, 160, 170, 180, 190.

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190, sir?

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200. At 190 in the middle, 200 here.

0:41:130:41:16

210, 220, 230, 240, 250, 260,

0:41:160:41:21

270, 280, 290, 300,

0:41:210:41:25

320, 340, 360.

0:41:250:41:28

380, 400, 420, 440.

0:41:280:41:34

440, new bidder. 440.

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At 440, it's on the internet.

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460. At 460...

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The room is out. 480 on the phone.

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-Brilliant.

-500.

-Yes, come on. Yes!

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520, 540, 560, 580.

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600, 620.

0:41:520:41:54

Yeah! Well, Alan, whoa!

0:41:540:41:57

660, 680, 700.

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720, 740.

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We go back to the telephone at 720 now.

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At 720, it's on the telephone...

0:42:080:42:10

At 740, they've come back.

0:42:100:42:12

760.

0:42:120:42:15

780?

0:42:150:42:18

Back to 760 now.

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At £760, on the telephone at 7...

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-780, they've come back.

-780!

0:42:240:42:28

It's 800 on the telephone.

0:42:290:42:31

It's with you, sir, at £800.

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Are we all done?

0:42:330:42:36

Yes! £800!

0:42:360:42:39

Everyone loved that bear! I bet you did, I did.

0:42:390:42:42

You wanted to sell it and now you've got £800.

0:42:420:42:44

A bit of commission to pay but that's phenomenal for that.

0:42:440:42:47

-That's brilliant.

-What are you going to do with that?

0:42:470:42:49

I'm going to see my sister in America later this year so it'll all

0:42:490:42:52

-go towards that.

-Brilliant. When was the last time you saw her?

0:42:520:42:55

-Eight or nine years ago.

-Oh, so that'll be nice, a family reunion.

0:42:550:42:58

-And she's seen that little bear as well.

-Oh, yeah.

-How lovely!

0:42:580:43:02

-James, that was a shock.

-What a price!

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If you've got something like that, bring it along

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to one of our valuation days. But sadly we've run out of time here

0:43:060:43:09

in Rye, and what a surprise that was!

0:43:090:43:11

So it's goodbye from all of us but join us again

0:43:110:43:14

for many more auctions on Flog It!

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