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This classic market town was mentioned in Sherlock Holmes' most famous case, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
The Hound Of The Baskervilles. But there's no mystery about today's show. Flog It is in Tavistock. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:14 | |
Tavistock forms the western gateway to the wildest area of open country in the south of England - Dartmoor. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:53 | |
It's not surprising that Conan Doyle's imagination | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
was fired by this beautiful and sometimes bleak landscape | 0:00:59 | 0:01:04 | |
with its isolation, wild weather and strange granite tors. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
But we're safely in the centre of the town at the ancient Pannier Market, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:15 | |
which is our home for today. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
It's just as hectic as a market day with everyone unpacking their boxes. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
And Philip Serrell and Charlie Ross are doing their own detective work, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:30 | |
searching out the top names in antiques and collectables. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
-Maggie, how are you? -I'm very well, thank you. -So is this a family piece? -Yes. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:46 | |
-My aunt gave it to me 30 years ago. -Did you like it? -I've always liked it. -Until now. -No, not till now. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:53 | |
-My kids said we've got to have a sort out. -Why? -Or it'll all go to the charity shop. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:59 | |
-Why? -They don't like it. -They should get them looked at in case they're throwing the crown jewels away. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:06 | |
-Not that this is the crown jewels. -No. -But I like it because it's from Worcester. I'm from Worcester. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:14 | |
-And that scene on the top is either going to be Shakespeare's birthplace or Anne Hathaway's cottage. -Yeah. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:22 | |
And if we turn it over, it says there, "Birthplace of Shakespeare." | 0:02:22 | 0:02:28 | |
And everything there is to know about Worcester is on the bottom. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:33 | |
So we can see it's Royal Worcester. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
Then you can see some dots, some at one o'clock, some at 11 o'clock and some at 6 o'clock. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:42 | |
-You've got to keep count here. Six there and six there? -12. -And three down there, how much is that? -15. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:49 | |
-Add that on to 1891. Come on. Quick! -1906. -So this was made in 1906. -Oh, right. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:56 | |
-It's older than I thought. -There's a 51 in the middle. A lot of people think that's either 1851 or 1751 | 0:02:56 | 0:03:03 | |
and that's when it was made. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
It actually refers to 1751 when the Worcester factory was founded. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
-And this colour is called blushed ivory cos it's ivory coloured and it's blushed. It's lovely. -Yes. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:18 | |
-It is a nice piece, but as I said... -So it's go to go? -It's got to go. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:24 | |
Value - if it had cattle on it, it would be £500-£800. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
-But it hasn't. -I could paint some on. -No! Behave. You can't go around doing things like that. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:35 | |
-This is £30-£50 worth. -Right. -OK? -Yes. -It might do a little bit more. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
-Estimate - £30-£50, reserve - £20. It'll definitely sell. -Yeah. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
-With a bit of luck it might make 80 or 90. But just think in terms of 30-50. That's it. -That's lovely. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:52 | |
-What else are they sending to the charity shop? -Well, I've got some Chinese vases and they're going. | 0:03:52 | 0:04:00 | |
-They've been in the loft. -I think, my love... -I'll come to the next Flog It. -Come to the next Flog It. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:07 | |
-You could be in trouble here. -I could bring a wheelbarrow next time! | 0:04:07 | 0:04:14 | |
This is fantastic. Patricia, where did this come from? | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
-Well, back in 1976, I was renovating an old shop that had been a very old grocer's shop. -Here in Tavistock? | 0:04:26 | 0:04:33 | |
-Yes. And one of the floorboards had come away from the skirting board... -Yeah. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:39 | |
-And there was this piece of brown paper underneath, which I pulled up. And this was rolled up inside. -Wow! | 0:04:39 | 0:04:47 | |
-In pristine condition. -I've been to the Guinness museum in Dublin | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
and they've got all the John Gilroy posters. And he was the first Guinness artist back in the 1930s. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:59 | |
-And they came up with the slogan, "My goodness, my Guinness." -Yes. -And you can remember the iconic images. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:06 | |
-But I didn't see this in the museum. -No. -Have you done any research? | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
A friend, who worked with me, her husband was a rep for the Guinness company all of his working life. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:18 | |
-And he said he'd never seen it anywhere. -This is lovely as it plays around with Alice In Wonderland. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:25 | |
And look at this. "'Nonsense,' cried Alice, 'Guinness keeps its head!'" The condition is superb. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:32 | |
Yes. My father framed it for me in this tatty old frame, which was just right for it, to protect it, really. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:40 | |
-I'm pretty sure it's 1950s. -Well, that would date with the shop, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
-because this has obviously been under the floorboards a long, long time. -Why do you want to flog this? | 0:05:45 | 0:05:52 | |
I have a very modern house and this won't go in it. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
It hung in the shop for many, many years and all the customers loved it. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
-But I feel it should be used or in a museum. -I noticed a chap was trying to buy it off you this morning. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:08 | |
He didn't try to buy it. He said that it shouldn't go for less than 250. And he'll be there at the auction. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:15 | |
-So we've sold it at 250 then? -Definitely, yes. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
-I would say. -Do you know what we should do? We'll put it into auction with a valuation of £250-£350. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:27 | |
-Right. -With a reserve at 250. -Yes. -Fixed reserve. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
-That's fine. -We could have a bidding frenzy going on. I can't wait to get this one into the auction room. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:41 | |
-Sue and Karin, you're sisters? -Yes. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
-But it's Karin, not Karen? -That's right. -There must be a story behind that? | 0:06:51 | 0:06:57 | |
-I was named after my father's Swedish girlfriend, who wasn't my mother! -What did your mother think of that? | 0:06:57 | 0:07:04 | |
-Well, she must've been OK by it cos she let me be called it. -You never met the girlfriend? -Never. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:11 | |
-I don't think Mum did either. -Just as well. Anyway, what about these vases? What do you know about them? | 0:07:11 | 0:07:19 | |
-Well, they were our maternal great-grandfather's. -Right. -He was a captain in the Merchant Navy. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:27 | |
-Right. -And he brought them back from Shanghai. -Right. -He confiscated them from one of the seamen and... | 0:07:27 | 0:07:34 | |
-Was he captain? -Yes. -So some poor chap went aboard with these and your grandfather said, "I fancy those. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:41 | |
-"A mere rating can't bring them back." -Yes. And he took them back to his house. -He's kept them very well. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:48 | |
Well, they haven't done badly. They've got a couple of little small chips in the rim of one. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:55 | |
-They went through the Blitz under the stairs... -Good Lord. -..but survived. | 0:07:55 | 0:08:01 | |
-And we put them away in a box 14 years ago. -Do you two live together? -No. -So who had them? -I did. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:08 | |
-Have you ever had them valued? -Well, I asked somebody a while ago, and just from a photograph, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:15 | |
-he said they might be worth up to about 650 maximum. -To sell or for insurance? -To sell. -To sell. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:22 | |
-Do you know where they come from? -We don't know. -Right. They're Cantonese, lovely bright colours. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:30 | |
The necks are decorated with dragons and some wonderful panels depicting fighting warriors. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:37 | |
And have you ever looked at the shields they're holding? | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
Not really looked that much at them. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
There are court scenes one side and battle scenes the other. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
-If you look at your battle scene, which is facing you, look at those shields. Aren't they wonderful? -Yes. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:57 | |
That's to frighten off the enemy. They'd frighten you to death. Date, any idea how old they might be? | 0:08:57 | 0:09:05 | |
Well, we know they've got to be over 95 years old because my great-grandfather died before then. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:12 | |
They're a bit older than that. They're about 1880 to 1890. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
They're over 100 years old. The value is interesting, not far out, actually, your valuation. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:24 | |
I would say that a sensible saleroom estimate would be 300-500. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
So that's a bit below perhaps what you were hoping. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
-I think we put a reserve of £250 and not to sell them for a halfpenny less. Is that OK? -That's fine. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:40 | |
-Are you splitting the money? -Father's having it. -We'll see what Father says. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:46 | |
-Does he know what they're worth? -He may give us a bit. -If you tell him they made £30, you'll be fine. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:53 | |
But he always watches this. He watches this every week! | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
-Maria, how are you? -I'm very well. -What's the history behind this little beauty? | 0:10:04 | 0:10:10 | |
A friend of my husband's, it was his grandmother's. And he gave it to me because I do a lot of handicraft. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:18 | |
-He thought I could mend it. -Were you meant to give it back? -No. But my fingers are far too big, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:25 | |
so I sent it to a guy in Norwich, I think, who does antique jewellery. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
-And it was over £1,000 to have it repaired. -Hellfire! | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
Because I needed more seed pearls and I wanted him to put the safety catch on. I just thought it was so pretty. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:42 | |
-This friend of your husband's, where did he come from? -He was from London. No, I think from the north. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:49 | |
-Not European? -No. -Cos I just wondered looking at this, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
I'm not sure it's English. I think it's from that sort of 1900-1910 era. | 0:10:54 | 0:11:00 | |
It's wonderful quality because you've got diamonds, rubies. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
And then you've got this really fine enamelling | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
going around this gold border. Some of the seed pearls need replacing | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
-or it would be beneficial to do that. -I thought they'd done that. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
-There's just the odd bit of staining to some of these pearls. -Maybe they were the original ones? -Yeah. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:27 | |
-And then some of the enamelling has just chipped off. I think it's lovely. Have you ever worn it? -Yes. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:35 | |
-I think that would make you feel really special. -It's beautiful. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:40 | |
-This type of jewellery is very sought after. -Right. -What's it worth? -I don't know. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:47 | |
I paid over 1,000 mending it, so... | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
I'd actually got in mind the figure of £1,000 as a reserve before you mentioned that. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:57 | |
-An auction estimate will be £1200 to £1500. -At least I'll get my 1,000 back. -You'll get your money back. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:05 | |
-You might get a profit. -It's a worry having it at home. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
So, Maria, you're happy that if we can get your money back, that's good? | 0:12:09 | 0:12:15 | |
-Yes. -Best get it flogged then. -Yes. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
Well, I think we've struck gold with all our items we've found so far. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:25 | |
So let's remind ourselves of what we're taking to the auction room. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
As it is Philip's speciality, it was no surprise that he picked out the little Worcester pot. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:37 | |
We could see plenty of bidders losing their heads over Patricia's splendid Guinness poster. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:44 | |
The Cantonese vases survived the Blitz under the stairs. Now let's see how they fare in the auction. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:51 | |
It's utterly charming, but will Maria's bracelet recoup the £1,000 she's already spent on it? | 0:12:51 | 0:12:58 | |
For today's sale, we've come to Eldred's Auction House in Plymouth. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
Before the sale gets underway, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
let's see what auctioneer Anthony Eldred has got to say about one of Philip's items. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:14 | |
£65 with the lady. 105. 110. 115. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
Maria's Edwardian bracelet - Philip's put £1200-£1500 on this. Now, Maria was given this bracelet. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:26 | |
She tried to fix it. She couldn't, so she sent it away to be restored, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
-and the cost was around about £1,000 for it to get fixed. So she wants her money back. -Gosh. -Yes, I know. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:39 | |
-That is a lot. -And we have got a fixed reserve of £1,000. -It is a lot to spend on a piece of jewellery, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:46 | |
which if you're going to wear and enjoy, yes. But to re-sell, I don't know if it'll all come back to her. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:53 | |
I know nothing about jewellery, but it looks OK for £1,000. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
Yes. And if you look at each particular oval, it's very pretty. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
-But whether we reach the 1,000, I'm not sure. -What would you like to have put on that? | 0:14:02 | 0:14:09 | |
I think I would have quoted £600-£800 on it. And expecting it to make something towards the upper estimate. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:16 | |
-So this one just might struggle. -We'll need that bit of luck. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
You heard what Philip had to say about Maria's bracelet. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
You've also heard what our auctioneer had to say, which you two don't know. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:38 | |
He says it just might struggle. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
It just might. We've got a fixed reserve of £1,000 because you've had this fixed, haven't you? | 0:14:41 | 0:14:48 | |
And it cost you £1,000, so you need your money back. It will sell, but it'll only sell at the lower end. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:55 | |
-I think it will sell. -But I told him not to go lower than 1,000 because I might as well take it home. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:02 | |
-Exactly. -I think it's one of those instances when your valuation is driven by expenditure, not value. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:09 | |
-Yes. So good luck, both of you. -I had to have it all re-strung and more seed pearls put in. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:16 | |
-Don't spend any more money. -Don't spend any more money on it. -OK. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
It's going under the hammer right now. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
Next is lot 487. It's an Edwardian bracelet of seed pearls. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:30 | |
At £800 for this one. At £800. And 50. 900. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
At £900. 50, if you want it? At £900 then. Finished in the room at 900. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:39 | |
At £900 then, are you bidding? All done then at £900. And 50. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:45 | |
-1,000. At 1,000 then. All done at 1,000. -Oh, yes, we've got the 1,000. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
-We just got 1,000! -By the skin of our teeth. -That one struggled. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
-But we got it away. -Good auctioneer. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
-Yes. The person on the phone was bidding but they backed out at 950. Happy? -Mm-hm. -Got your money back. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:05 | |
It's off with my head if this doesn't sell, and it's all down to Patricia, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:17 | |
-because you did sort of persuade me, because you said you'd been offered £250 for this Guinness poster. -Yes. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:24 | |
-So hopefully they'll be here in the auction. -I hope so. -And there might be someone to bid against them. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:31 | |
-And we might get that top end at £350. What's that? -A photograph of the old shop that I was renovating | 0:16:31 | 0:16:38 | |
-and found the poster under the floorboards. -That takes you back in time. -Bit of Tavistock history. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:45 | |
But you're getting rid of a bit more social history. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
-Maybe you should hang on to this poster? -Well, I kept it in the shop. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
-But now I've got nowhere to keep it. -It really is the end of an era. -It is. -Let's hope we get top dollar. | 0:16:54 | 0:17:01 | |
It's going under the hammer now. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
This is the Guinness advertising poster. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
There it is. And at £180 for that. At 180. 190. 200. And 10. 220. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:15 | |
-230. 240. -Yes! -250. At the very back there at £250. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
60 if you want it? At £250 then? | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
All done then at £250. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
-We're happy. -It's sold, yes. -250. You said you wanted 250. -Yes. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
-I think that chap bought it. -I don't know. Yeah, probably. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
-He was very keen. -You're happy, aren't you? -Yes, it's fine. -And what will you put that money towards? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:42 | |
The grandchildren. I thought I'd pop it into premium bonds for them and they might come up with a big sum. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:50 | |
OK. Next up, the Royal Worcester, but we don't have its owner, Maggie. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
-She cannot be with us today. But we've got our Royal Worcester expert standing next to me - Philip! -Paul. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:09 | |
-Not a lot of money on this. Is that because it's the blushed ivory? -Yes. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
If you'd had a Stinton cow, you're talking loads of money. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
-Good luck for Maggie. -Let's do it for her. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Next lot, 307, is a Royal Worcester oval pot and lid. There it is. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:28 | |
And I'm bid £18 for it against you all. At 18. 20. 22. 25. 28. 30. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
In front then at 30. 32. 35. 38. 40. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
At £40, still in front here. Are you all done at £40? And 42. 45. 48. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:45 | |
£50. 52. At £52 here. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
Are you done at 52 then? | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
You said £50 at the top end, we got 52 under the hammer. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
-Maggie will be pleased. She wanted to get rid of it. -And she has. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
Sue and Karin are definitely flogging off the family heirlooms as these belong to Great-grandfather. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:14 | |
So you've got one each now. They're only valuable in a pair, so the best thing to do is flog them, yes? | 0:19:14 | 0:19:21 | |
-We've got another sister. -Really? Does she know you're flogging them? -Yes. -Aw! -We did tell her. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:29 | |
Well, you can't split a pair three ways, can you? So who's had them over the last few years? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:36 | |
-At my father's house. He's asked us to bring them. -Dad's getting the money, really. -We might get some. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:43 | |
-For all the hard work. -Lunch expenses. -Yes. Good luck. They're going under the hammer now. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:50 | |
Next is lot 383. It's a pair of Chinese Canton vases. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
I'm bid £200 for them. At 200. 10, if you want them? 210. 220. 230. 240. | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
250. 260. At £260 now. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
Is that all? Oh, 270. Hang on. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
At 280. 290. 300. 310. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
320. At 320, seated now. Any more in the room? At 320. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
330. 340. 350. 360. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
-Competition, that's what we like. -I like this. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
390. 400. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
420. At £420 now. Against you all at £420. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:32 | |
Quite sure then at 420? | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
-Splendid! -I'm very happy with that. The top end of the estimate. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
-Happy, girls? -Yes, thank you. -We don't have to look at them either. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
-I think they're quite nice. -They're not bad. -They're not "bad bad", are they? -No. And the condition's good. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:53 | |
-Yes, well... -Whatever! | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
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Well, that's the end of our first visit to the auction room today and so far, so good. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:07 | |
But now I'm taking advantage of being right on the edge of Dartmoor | 0:21:07 | 0:21:13 | |
and going off to do some exploring. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
'In bad weather, Dartmoor can be a wild and forbidding place. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:24 | |
'But on a sunny day, there can be no better way of visiting the moor than in a horse-drawn carriage. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:31 | |
'John Arden has spent years teaching carriage driving and driving tourists across the moor. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:38 | |
'Today, he and I are going to take a trip across Holne Moor on the south-east side.' | 0:21:38 | 0:21:44 | |
-That was quite a climb from the farmhouse. -It's a 500-foot climb from Holne up to Dartmoor. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:50 | |
Our house is 500 foot above sea level. Anywhere on Dartmoor is 1,000 foot above sea level. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:56 | |
-How big is Dartmoor? -Um...364 square miles, I believe. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
And do you know it like the back of your hand? | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
I know most of it like the back of the hand, yes. I've ridden horses on it, all over the moor. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:11 | |
You are a Dartmoor boy, aren't you? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
IN WEST COUNTRY ACCENT: I'm a Dartmoor boy, you know! Yeah! | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
John's father was a farmer and master of the local fox hounds. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
His mother was also an enthusiastic rider in point-to-points, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
so much so that John may be the only person to have won one before he was born. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:36 | |
So not surprisingly, horses and John have been inseparable ever since. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
And this combined with his passion for the moor makes him the perfect guide. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:47 | |
-That's absolutely beautiful. -Steady, boy, steady. -I think you've got a great job. It can't get any better. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:55 | |
I don't think so. I just love the horses and it's a very nice way to be able to work. | 0:22:55 | 0:23:02 | |
We've been doing it 30-odd years now, doing these trips out over the moor, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:08 | |
based on what the old men did years ago | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
because a tremendous industry grew up round about the 1880s or so when the railways first came to Devon. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:19 | |
And each town, they used to take people out over the moor just as we're doing, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:26 | |
with either a pair of horses or four-in-hand of horses. And we had an old man who worked on Father's farm | 0:23:26 | 0:23:33 | |
who had taken part in that and encouraged me to have a go at it. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:39 | |
"You ought to do it like they did years ago, boy, right over Dartmoor!" | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
-It's a nice sitting-down job. -So was there an industry here at one time? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:50 | |
Yes. There was a lot of peat digging on the moor. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
All the farmers had their own peat, what they called "peat tie", out over the moor, out in the middle. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:02 | |
And there was a lot of tin mining and that's all gone, along with the quarrying. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:08 | |
I think really that the '14-'18 War, as much as anything, spelt the death of a lot of it. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:15 | |
'The First World War may have caused the demise of these industries. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
'But Dartmoor had another resource that proved invaluable to the troops.' | 0:24:20 | 0:24:27 | |
Way back, in my mother's time, which is in the '14-'18 War, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
a war-time job was collecting this sphagnum moss from all over Dartmoor. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:39 | |
They used to use it to treat the troops' wounds with. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:44 | |
'Sphagnum moss grows all over Dartmoor and it was invaluable as a dressing due to its high absorbency, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:51 | |
'soaking up twice as much blood as cotton wool. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
'But John's parents' war-time exploits weren't just limited to World War One. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
'Their contribution to home defence in the Second World War has become something of a local legend.' | 0:25:01 | 0:25:08 | |
Father was in charge of the mounted home guard and they patrolled the moor. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:14 | |
And one night he was out on patrol when Mother got a message | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
that the Germans were coming down the road from the Warren Inn. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:24 | |
She got a sports car and she got some old retired veteran of the First World War to come and help her. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:31 | |
-And together they went up there with shotguns and rifles, you see. -Yes. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
And they saw these grey shapes creeping up through the darkness, so they blazed away at them, you see, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:44 | |
and they went off to tell everybody. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
The Germans never turned up, but there were two dead sheep on the road. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:52 | |
-A real Dad's Army story. -That sounds like a classic Dad's Army, doesn't it? -Yeah. -It really does. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:59 | |
'The most notorious tale of Dartmoor is the elusive Black Beast, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
'of which there have been many sightings. And it is something which John has experienced first-hand.' | 0:26:04 | 0:26:12 | |
-So what's the rumour, the Beast of Dartmoor? -Well, lots of people... | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
-Is it a black panther or something? -I'm sure it is. We were actually coming up right where we are now, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:25 | |
in broad daylight, and we saw him on the right here. And he was very big, as long as a yearling bullock, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:32 | |
but not as high, and black with a mottled white stripe down his back. And this was in broad daylight. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:39 | |
-And we were stone-cold sober. -You had to add that, didn't you? -Well, yes, I might get accused of it otherwise. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:46 | |
And I didn't shout too much because he looked very big and I thought, "As long as he's running away from me, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:53 | |
-"let him keep going that way." -This is absolutely breathtaking. -Yeah. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:59 | |
-Getting up to the top of the world up here. -We are on top of the world, aren't we? -Yes, this is it. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:06 | |
-You can see for miles. -Yes. Away to the right, that's all the north moor. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:12 | |
-We're on the southern half of Dartmoor. -You can see the weather change quite rapidly from here. -Yes. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:19 | |
It doesn't look too bad at the moment. Can you see it coming in over those hills, boy? | 0:27:19 | 0:27:26 | |
Look out, you're going to get wet. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
Coming out on Dartmoor with John has been an exhilarating, entertaining and educational experience. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:36 | |
I can't think of a better way to enjoy the history and beauty of this unique place. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:43 | |
Back to the Pannier Market | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
where Charlie has encountered something that wouldn't be out of place on the moor. | 0:27:53 | 0:28:00 | |
-Pat, I don't want to be rude, but this is not the best thing we've seen on Flog It. -Sorry about that. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:07 | |
But it's got BBC connections. I've looked at the bottom of it and you know who this is - Larry the Lamb. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:15 | |
-You wouldn't remember the programme, would you? -Way before my time. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:20 | |
But I remember Larry the Lamb, who spoke with a rather strange voice, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
who was produced on the radio and then on TV. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
"La-a-arry the La-amb," spoke like that, which is rather sad, especially done by me. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:34 | |
It's potted by Midwinter's. It's got the Midwinter mark on the bottom, a Staffordshire pottery, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:41 | |
-mass-produced, presumably for children who liked listening to Larry the Lamb. -Right. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:48 | |
Midwinter factory started in about 1920, I think. But we know it can't be earlier than the 1950s | 0:28:48 | 0:28:55 | |
-as that's when Larry the Lamb was born. How did you get it? -I bought it at a market a few months ago. | 0:28:55 | 0:29:02 | |
-You bought it? -Mm-hm. -Blimey, I'm on the spot here! You paid money for it? -Yeah. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:09 | |
-It was so quirky, I thought I'd have it for the sake of it. -Yes, but not for long. How much did you pay? | 0:29:09 | 0:29:16 | |
-About five pounds. -Well, may I suggest we sell this without reserve? -Mm-hm. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:22 | |
I think we can put an estimate of perhaps 20-30 on it. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
And like Beswick animals are making money today, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
-in 30 years' time, I wouldn't be at all surprised if something like that was worth £200 or £300. -Possibly. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:38 | |
Because it will become collectable. Anyway, we'll put it in and we'll sell it. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:45 | |
-We'll think of the BBC while we do so. -OK. -We'll get more than a fiver. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:50 | |
-We better, otherwise we'll set a new Flog It record for all the wrong reasons. Thank you. -No problem. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:58 | |
-Mary, how are you? -Well, I'm fine, actually. -You look pretty good. -Good job too. -And who's this then? | 0:30:02 | 0:30:09 | |
-Is this your minder? -Yes! This is my younger son. -Younger son? Mary, I'm going to be really rude here. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:17 | |
-How old are you? -I'm 93, nearly as old as the plates. -Blimey. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:23 | |
-I can't see me ever doing that. -You never know. You never know what's in store. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:29 | |
-You reckon you're nearly as old as these plates? -Nearly, yes. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
-So if I said these were mid-19th century, you'd be staggered? -I'd be astonished. -Well, they're not. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:41 | |
-Oh, well. -No, they're mid-18th century. -18th! -They're even older. -Oh, dear, is that a fact? -Yeah. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:48 | |
-Good gracious. -I think that these were made some time between about 1730 and about 1760. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:54 | |
-Really? -Right. -Good gracious. -Where do you think they came from? What are these designs? | 0:30:54 | 0:31:01 | |
-Well, they look a bit, um... -A bit Chinese? -Yes. -Do you know why that is? -No. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:08 | |
The Chinese made wonderful porcelain. And we tried to make porcelain like the Chinese did, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:15 | |
really fine quality porcelain. Because we were trying to copy the Chinese, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:21 | |
-our porcelains were all decorated to look like Chinese. -Ah! | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
But prior to us creating porcelain factories in this country, we had this stuff called tin-glazed Delft. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:34 | |
And this is tin-glazed Delft. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
-And it's called Delft from the town in Holland. -Yes. -But we used to produce Delft in this country. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:44 | |
And there's Bristol Delft. There's London or Lambeth Delft. And I think this might be Liverpool Delft. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:51 | |
-Do you? Liverpool? -Yes. And it's called tin-glazed because tin was added to the glaze | 0:31:51 | 0:31:58 | |
-and it produces a sort of milky colour. -Are these painted individually? -Yes. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:05 | |
I think of someone painting that, it is pretty marvellous. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
-Why does your mum want to sell them? -Well, they've sat in a cupboard as long as I've ever been around. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:16 | |
They're not collecting dust, but they're never seen. What's the point of keeping something, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:24 | |
which you're not enjoying to look at, when other people, who might like it, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:30 | |
-would buy it? -I think it's nice to be able to pass them on to somebody else. -Yes. -So, what are they worth? | 0:32:30 | 0:32:38 | |
-I think that these are worth between £50 and £100 a piece. -Do you? -Yeah. -Goodness gracious. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:45 | |
And I think we'll put an auction estimate of 250-450 on them. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
We'll put a fixed reserve of £200. They're absolutely lovely. Are you happy to sell them? | 0:32:50 | 0:32:56 | |
-Quite happy, yes. -It's a joy meeting you. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
-And it's a joy looking at these. -I'm very pleased to have met you too. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:05 | |
Val, he's a great-looking chap on top of your umbrella, which is not a parasol. Where did it come from? | 0:33:10 | 0:33:17 | |
It was my great-aunt's. Other than that, I really don't know anything of its history. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:24 | |
-So it went from your great-aunt to? -My parents. And I've had him for the last ten years. -And where's he been? | 0:33:24 | 0:33:31 | |
-In a cover in our umbrella stand. -It's just as well you haven't used it cos it's in fantastic condition. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:38 | |
-No connections with the Indian army? -I don't know. -Because I was trying to work out where it was done. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:46 | |
If the quality of the carving was better, you'd point to the Far East. If it was the Far East, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:53 | |
I would expect the umbrella part of it not to be waterproof material, which it obviously is. | 0:33:53 | 0:34:00 | |
-I'd expect it to be perhaps fabric for protection from the sun. -Yes. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:06 | |
-But thinking of perhaps monsoons, you could say perhaps Indian? -Right. -Anglo-Indian? | 0:34:06 | 0:34:13 | |
And to a certain extent you could say that was a vulture, rather than an eagle. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:20 | |
-And the quality is good, but not priceless. -Right. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
The beak is a bit crude. I love the way the glass eyes are still there. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:30 | |
I love the little ivory knots here. We won't open it out because it'll only stretch the fabric. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:37 | |
-Yes, it is quite stiff. -And I think if you opened it to its fullest extent, you might tear it. -Yes. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:45 | |
Date? Looking at the elastic on it, we're not looking into Victorian times. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:51 | |
-We're looking at 1930, I think. -Right. -Super condition. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:56 | |
And people collect walking stick and parasol tops. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
-Right. -And the more intricate and the more unusual, the more valuable. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:06 | |
This is not particularly unusual. It's ivory, which is good news, except in some people's minds. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:13 | |
-Not everybody appreciates it. -But when this was done, people didn't mind about things like that. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:20 | |
-And you brought it along hoping it had a value, presumably? -Well, we've brought one or two other things, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:27 | |
-which people didn't seem to take much interest in... -What a rotten lot! | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
-And this is the one that's caught your eye. -Yes, I just saw you there. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:38 | |
I'm glad his head was sticking out of the top, otherwise I'd never have seen him. Have a guess at a value? | 0:35:38 | 0:35:45 | |
-No idea whatsoever. -Not a clue? | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
-£50? I don't know. -I reckon it's worth at least three times that. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:54 | |
-Oh, very nice too. -In fact, I would go as far as to say it ought to be worth £200. -That would be nice. -Yes. | 0:35:54 | 0:36:01 | |
-I would like to put an estimate of 150-200 on it. -Right. -And put a discretionary reserve at £150. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:08 | |
And if the auctioneer gets pretty close, he would then sell it. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:14 | |
-Thank you for bringing it along. -Thank you. -Bit of a bonus then? -Yes. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:19 | |
There's just time to re-visit the items our experts have picked to tempt the bidders. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:25 | |
Larry the Lamb, Patrick only paid a fiver for him. What a baa-argain! | 0:36:25 | 0:36:31 | |
At 93, Mary is a mere youngster compared to her Delft plates, which date back to the 18th century. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:39 | |
The Anglo-Indian 1930s umbrella is in super condition. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
If the collectors are in the room, there's no need to be overcast. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
I wonder what auctioneer Anthony Eldred will make of it? | 0:36:48 | 0:36:53 | |
This is real quality. It belongs to Valerie. Anglo-Indian, an ivory-handled umbrella, | 0:36:53 | 0:37:00 | |
circa 1920s, 1930s. And Charlie's put £150-£200 on this. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:05 | |
Yes. It is, as you say, lovely quality and the detail. They've even tipped the spokes with ivory as well. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:12 | |
It's in good condition considering it's been in an umbrella stand. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:18 | |
I don't think it's had a lot of use because the material becomes frayed and the spokes start to poke through. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:25 | |
-And I think the quote is a nice quote. I think it'll make that and hopefully more. -Fingers crossed. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:33 | |
This'll bring back some childhood memories for many of you. It's Larry the Lamb. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:44 | |
Patrick, you bought this for a fiver at a flea market and he's off to market again. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:51 | |
-Charlie, you've got £20 on this. -20-30, no reserve. -No, it's here to go. -It's got to make five quid! | 0:37:51 | 0:37:59 | |
It's reasonably modelled, if you like that sort of thing. I think it'll make £15. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:06 | |
That would be a nice result. If you could keep doing that to everything you buy at a flea market, well... | 0:38:06 | 0:38:13 | |
-Do that ten times a day and you'd have a good week. -Let's find out. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:19 | |
It's a Midwinter pottery figure of Larry the Lamb. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
-I'm bid £8, which doesn't seem a lot. -£8! -We're in. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
-At £8. 10. 12. -Profit. -15. 18. -It's steaming away! | 0:38:27 | 0:38:32 | |
-At £20 now. -£20. -At £20, take two if you like? At £20 then. All done. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
-That's four times what you paid. -You thought it would go for £20. -I did. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
-Excellent. -And as Charles said, if you could keep doing that every day, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:47 | |
it's a nice bit of pocket money. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
-And it's a fun thing to do because you learn a lot. -Yeah. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
-I'm not going to ask you what your £20 is going towards! -No. | 0:38:55 | 0:39:00 | |
-No. -A sheepskin coat. -A sheepskin coat down the market, yeah. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:05 | |
Five Liverpool tin-glazed Delft plates about to go under the hammer. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
-They belong to Mary and Brian. But Brian can't be with us. -No. He's working today. -What does he do? | 0:39:15 | 0:39:22 | |
-You can explain what he does. -Who have you brought along, Mary? -My daughter-in-law. -What's your name? | 0:39:22 | 0:39:29 | |
-Hilde, short for Hildegard. -Pleased to meet you, Hildegard. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
-Happy with the valuation? -Oh, yes. -Yes. Yes. -Philip's got a keen eye as I know you absolutely loved them. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:40 | |
-And they could possibly do that 400, couldn't they? -I think they'll do well. They're a lot I'd love to own. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:47 | |
I'm with you on that. It's a purist's lot. Proper antiques. Let's hope we get a proper job here today | 0:39:47 | 0:39:55 | |
and somebody pays top dollar. This is it. Good luck. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
Lot 274 is five 18th-century Liverpool, glazed Delft dishes. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
And there they are. And £150 for those. At 150. 60, if you want them? | 0:40:03 | 0:40:09 | |
160. 170. 180. 190. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
200. And 10. At £210 now. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
At 210 there. Are you all done then? At £210. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
Hammer's gone down. We've sold them, £210. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
-What are you putting the money towards? -I'm not sure. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:29 | |
-It'll go very quickly. -It will. Once you've paid the bills, it's gone. -That's right. Yes. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:35 | |
This lot will make you smile. It's that lovely 1930s ivory umbrella. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:45 | |
Normally, umbrellas make you feel miserable. "Oh, no, it's raining!" | 0:40:45 | 0:40:50 | |
-But this one is real quality. And it's been in your umbrella stand for ten years? -Yes. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:57 | |
-All credit to you because condition is paramount in something like this. -Absolutely. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:03 | |
-Quality and condition counts. And it is all there. -There's a lovely photograph of it in the catalogue. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:10 | |
And you just can't help but feel it and touch it. And that's what antiques are supposed to do - | 0:41:10 | 0:41:17 | |
-inspire you and make you feel good. -I'm glad you like it. -Why are you getting rid of it? -I don't like it! | 0:41:17 | 0:41:24 | |
-Sorry! It's as simple as that. -Well, let's hope we get you top money. -OK. -It's going under the hammer now. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:32 | |
Early 20th-century lady's ivory umbrella. There it is. Carved handle. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:37 | |
And I'm bid £130. Against you all in the room at 130. I'll take five. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:43 | |
135. 140. 150. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
-And five. -It's gone. -160 now. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
At 160 there. 170. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
180. 190. 200. And ten. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:56 | |
-220. 230. -The collectors love it! -240. 250. 260. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
270. At £270 at the very back. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
-280, fresh bidding. -I was hoping for 3. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
300. And ten. 320. 330. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
340. At 340. 350 now at the very back. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:16 | |
-Are you all done at £350? -That's bought it, at 350. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
Yes! The hammer's gone down! £350. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
-It certainly isn't a rainy day for Valerie. -Wonderful. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:27 | |
You've got to be so happy with that. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
They are so collectable. And I've a feeling that this may be converted | 0:42:29 | 0:42:34 | |
-and put on the top of a walking cane. It's that good. -Yes. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:39 | |
With an umbrella, once the fabric's gone, it devalues it. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
-The top will be taken off and put on a walking cane. -Brilliant. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
-What are you going to do with the money? -It's going towards the fund for a new Aga. -Do you have an Aga? | 0:42:48 | 0:42:55 | |
-Yes. So it's going into the fund for replacing that. -They're quite pricey and very heavy. | 0:42:55 | 0:43:01 | |
I could be back selling the old one. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
One minute the saleroom's packed and the next, it's empty. The sale's over and everybody has gone home. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:14 | |
We've had a cracking day. All credit to our experts, they were bang on the money, | 0:43:14 | 0:43:20 | |
and also to our auctioneer, Anthony Eldred. He did a great job. What can I say? Join us next time on Flog It. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:28 | |
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