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This is the show that pitches TV's best loved antiques experts

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against each other in an all-out battle for profit.

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Let's make hay while that sun shines.

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And gives you the insider's view of the trade.

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BANGS GAVEL Who's there?

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Each week, one pair of duelling dealers

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will face a different daily challenge.

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The original cheeky chappie. Lovely!

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Putting their reputations on the line.

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And I'm truly rockin'!

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WOLF WHISTLE

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And giving you their top tips

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and savvy secrets on how to make the most money from buying and selling.

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Get in there!

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EVIL LAUGHTER

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Today we're at a car boot sale where purveyor of porcelain,

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Eric Knowles, goes head-to-head with auctioneer extraordinaire

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Catherine Southon.

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Coming up... Canny Catherine meets her match.

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-I tell you what, I'll give you £10 for it.

-12.

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Things hot up and Eric slaps on the factor 30.

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I like to believe that pasty is still tasty.

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And the quest for profit proves harder than ever.

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-I would give you £30 for it.

-Would you, is that all?

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I'm afraid so.

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Oh.

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-You wouldn't stretch it?

-Well, that is stretching it.

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This is Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.

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Welcome to another battle of the bygones boffins,

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as two of the United Kingdom's most revered antiques experts

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come together in an almighty clash of dynamic dealing.

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Between them they have acquired decades of knowledge

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and a hunger for haggling.

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They can put a value on just about anything.

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And will seek a profit in the most unlikely of places.

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First up, the Prince of Porcelain, the daddy of dealing.

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He knows his classic cloisonne from his clapped-out clutter.

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He is a priceless national treasure.

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Please be upstanding for Eric "Knocker" Knowles.

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Nice one, Knocker.

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His competitor is one of the toughest women in the business.

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She's the lean, mean queen of quality

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who could flog fiddles to a Philharmonic.

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Weighing into this fearsome fight,

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put your hands together for "Cunning" Catherine Southon.

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So, Mr Knocker Knowles, you may be going down the plug hole.

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Today our experts are in Battersea in good old London town,

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a place famous for its four-chimneyed Art Deco

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power station that sits alongside the River Thames.

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It also has a boot sale packed with items from the sublime to the ridiculous.

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And, of course, there's plenty of dogs.

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Our experts have each brought £250 of their own money to spend.

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So will they make their fortunes in London?

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Eric Knowles and Catherine Southon,

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it's time to Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.

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-So, here we are.

-Hi, Eric.

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-Are you all right?

-I'm fine. We're in London,

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we're in the shadow of the iconic Battersea Power Station, no less.

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Because we're here for the car boot.

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£250 to spend, how are you going to do it?

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I'm going to try and spend it wisely,

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but I can tell you now that with car boots,

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he or she who hesitates stands to lose the object.

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You are quite right.

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I think we've got to adopt a very businesslike attitude.

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-On that note, I will wish you all the very best.

-And you. See you later.

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Cheers.

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So on one side,

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Cunning Catherine is keeping tight-lipped about her strategy.

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On the other, Knocker Knowles, with businesslike bravado,

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is lining up his ducks... Well, pigeons!

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He needs to be quick, as his rival has beaten him to the site.

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In fact, super keen Catherine has beaten everyone to it!

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Well, I think I've arrived a little bit too early,

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but that gives me plenty of time to think about my plan of action.

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Now in my mind, Mr Eric Knowles is the godfather of antiques.

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So I'm going to be walking behind him in his shadow.

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And I think that'll let me achieve the ultimate goal.

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So, what of the Godfather,

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what magical masterplan has Knocker Knowles got up his sleeve?

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Well, my strategy today is going to be to find it, check it,

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price it and if the price is right, buy it.

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Electrifying, Eric!

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Faster than lightning, Knocker moves through the stalls.

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The boot sale is bustling

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and the Prince of Porcelain is straight in there.

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Let's have a look.

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From 100 yards that shouts... Portmeirion.

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It's a well-known design.

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-If I might ask you what the price is on this, please?

-45.

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-So £45 and it's all there, no chips, no cracks.

-OK.

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-£45 it is.

-Deal.

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So this is part of my coffee set designed by Susan Williams Ellis.

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It tells me that on the base, but I knew that.

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And it is a design that they called Totem.

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It was very popular in the 1960s.

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It's not porcelain but it is an earthenware type body.

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It benefits from that magic word of the moment, retro.

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Yes, without a hint of a haggle, our Eric is putting his strategy

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straight into play, no hanging about.

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Now, she wanted to follow his lead but Catherine is on the other side

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of the fair, trying to bag her first item.

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I'm kind of drawn towards your leather handbag, your Italian,

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-red leather Dolce & Gabbana.

-It is real.

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We lived in Italy for seven years.

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I actually used to go out to where the things were manufactured and designed.

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And you probably paid a fortune for that at the time, didn't you?

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That was about 160 quid, yeah.

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It's nice, very nice.

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Unfortunately, that... There was another one here.

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-The original tag, yeah.

-Which is a shame.

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-Which does make a difference for the price.

-That's why it's 15.

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-I like the punky look to it.

-Little bit different, isn't it?

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I think that's quite nice, and I love the colour.

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Can you do a bit less on that?

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On 15, because that's really a bit too steep

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because of these faults, really.

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Erm... 13?

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-I tell you what, I'll give you £10 for it.

-12.

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I'm not going to argue with you. Thanks very much indeed. Lovely.

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Enjoy.

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I might actually just use it myself. Thanks a lot. See ya!

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Cor, that was a steely eyed stand-off!

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And Catherine has paid more than she wanted.

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She'll have to harden up her haggling to stand any chance of victory.

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Oh, yes!

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Now, all girls love a designer handbag.

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And, OK, this one is a little bit rough around the edges

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but I think actually that's its charm.

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Personally, I don't like them when they're brand-new and all shiny.

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This one is really nicely worn in. Lovely half moon shaped.

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It's going to be a bit hard to let this one go.

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Well, sell it you must, Catherine,

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the rules of the game are rock solid on that.

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Now, Eric's razor-sharp vision

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has already clocked his next potential purchase.

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That's all right though, isn't it?

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Well, it's got all...

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That makes a big difference, doesn't it?

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Yes, you could take it home and polish it.

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They look good when they're polished.

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-What sort of money are we talking about?

-28.

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28. Will £25 buy that by any chance?

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Yes, all right.

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Right, let's shake on that.

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Cor, Eric meant what he said about not wasting time!

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Straight in there with his second purchase.

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Date wise, this is early 20th century.

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The materials, well, we appear to have a mahogany base,

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which is looking very tired.

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As for the metalwork, it's all brass and, hopefully,

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once it's sparkling it will catch somebody's eye.

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As the day presses on, the sun is getting stronger by the minute,

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increasing the heat on our intrepid experts.

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They are just going to have to sweat it out, though,

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as they are far from done.

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But Miss Southon is on the case.

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I love vintage luggage.

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And that suitcase has got a very, very nice colour.

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Let's just open it up and have a look.

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It's quite nicely lined, although it is rather stained.

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It's got a little label inside. Harrods Ltd.

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Always important to check that these locks work.

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LOCK CLICKS

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Now that one is fine.

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That one, slightly temperamental but it does work.

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A lot of people are buying these at the moment,

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not so much to use but they are buying to put them

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on the top of wardrobes, sort of as decorative things.

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It could well be from the '50s, maybe even the '40s.

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Let me go and investigate.

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Can I ask you how much your suitcase is?

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I would like about £20-£25.

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The problem is one of these locks isn't brilliant.

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It's slightly temperamental.

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So I wouldn't like to pay that much for it.

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-Can we say 10?

-Yes.

-Can we shake on 10?

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Oh, don't break your vase! OK.

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A sizzling half price. What a nice lady.

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The heat from the blazing sun is unrelenting and,

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with the suitcase in her hand,

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could Catherine be thinking of taking a break from it all?

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Well, I feel like I'm going off on my holidays

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and the sun is certainly shining.

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So time to lose a few of these layers.

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I say, things are really hotting up!

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And across the sale, Eric is feeling the burn as well.

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What I'm going to need is plenty of this. Factor 30.

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Like Joan Collins,

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I like to believe that pasty is still tasty.

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Yes, well, Joan Collins has never looked like that!

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Anyway, he's supposed to be creaming a profit,

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not scaring the stallholders.

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Catherine, however, has quietly implemented her strategy

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of walking in Eric's shadow.

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She's at the stall where he bought his scales

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and is hoping for a sweet deal herself.

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I absolutely adore advertising tins.

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A lot of these tins, which would have once had crackers,

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biscuits, in this case probably sweets,

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are now very desirable, especially the really early ones.

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What has drawn me to this one is this lovely

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scene of the children on the front holding the balloons.

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This probably dates from '40s or '50s. How much is this?

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-Tenner.

-£10.

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-I was looking for about six.

-I can't do six.

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I'll split it with you, I'll do eight.

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OK. I'll give you £8 for that.

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So the tin makes a super tasty deal and just a few stalls away,

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Catherine spots her next potential purchase.

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Will she blow any money on it, though?

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I'm being drawn towards your flute.

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I know absolutely nothing about this.

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-That's £30.

-Can you do 20 for it?

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-25.

-No, it's just a bit of a gamble for me.

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22, because I'm not certain on all the pieces,

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whether everything is all right.

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Well, I can assure you,

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I mean, there's definitely all the pieces there.

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It's a fantastic instrument. It's never been played. It's brand-new.

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Everything in the box is in there. It comes with a bag.

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-OK, we'll go with that because it's far too hot...

-OK.

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-..to stand here and negotiate

-any more. Perfect.

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Yes, a powerful pitch from the car booter and Catherine knew

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she wasn't going to get her own way, or was she just pushing her luck?

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Whilst some people might take a break to enjoy the weather

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and an ice cream, our worthy warriors power on.

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And, as they do, let's take stock before the rest of us

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go into full-blown meltdown.

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Both our experts started the day with a cool £250.

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Eric has trodden a cautious path and,

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although he's only bought two items

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he's spent a chunky £70, leaving him £180 in his hot little hand.

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Catherine has struck while the iron and everything else is hot

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and has bought four items but has only spent £55,

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leaving £195 burning a hole in her pocket.

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Our experts are putting up a flaming fight,

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but will they keep it cool with each other?

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-Fancy seeing you here.

-Do you know, you've changed colour in this heat.

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-Anyway, how's it going?

-I'm not spending a lot of money.

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I haven't really flashed the cash.

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But I did buy a really nice vintage chocolate tin from probably

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the '40s or '50s. What about you?

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I've gone for retro things.

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A bit of a buzzword at the moment.

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It's easier to sell retro than antique, I find.

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I managed to buy myself a coffee set by Portmeirion in their Totem design.

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It is a case of search and ye might find.

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Yes, there's an awful lot to search through though, isn't there?

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-Good luck.

-You too.

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See you later.

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What does that face mean?

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Has old Knocker got our Cunning Cat running scared?

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I thought Eric was going to come to the boot fair

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and look for nothing but antiques.

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Retro? Now that's really thrown me.

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She actually is worried.

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Catherine thinks she's underestimated the Prince of Porcelain.

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But does she really need a full change of gameplan,

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or is Eric the master of the double bluff?

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Because that elegant figurine doesn't scream retro.

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The first thing I'm looking at are the hands

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because if any fingers are missing

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then it's mission impossible to move something like this on.

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It says in here in ein triangle, Wien,

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which, in good old English, is Vienna.

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-What is the asking price on this?

-45.

-45.

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I just feel I've got to ask if it can be done for 40.

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-OK.

-£40 it is.

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This is my Art Deco figurine.

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The strange thing is that although she's marked Vienna,

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she looks like the sort of girl that would have

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performed at the Folies Bergere in maybe 1925.

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But she's got an awful lot going for her, this girl.

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Hopefully she's going to earn me a reasonable profit.

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Yes, she may be risque but for Eric,

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a piece of porcelain has to be a dead cert for a profit.

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The figurine isn't what you'd call retro.

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And after his great, big retro spiel a moment ago,

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that purchase will confuse Catherine even more.

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However, Eric soon returns to his masterplan.

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These candelabra are much more on message.

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I'm not absolutely certain how old those are,

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but they look sort of '50s or '60s. What are your thoughts?

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My feeling is they are a bit later than that, probably about 1980s.

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They look very now though, don't they?

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They do, they're really contemporary.

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-What sort of money are we talking about?

-£35.

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-35, and that's the best, is it?

-The very best.

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-OK, £35, let's give it a go.

-Thanks very much indeed.

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I've just bought myself a pair of what

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I can only describe as rather stylish table candelabra.

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The only marks I can find on there are EPNS,

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for electroplated nickel silver.

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And at £35, you know, I wasn't going to leave them there.

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They are of a design which at this moment in time

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I think is very saleable.

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Yes, Eric is firing on all cylinders.

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He's putting Catherine in the shade and she's struggling.

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Although this may be the coolest part of the boot fair,

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it's also the one that's giving me the most amount of stress.

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I can't find any of those bargains.

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I'm going to have to go and brave the sunshine.

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That's quite out of character.

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Cool Catherine is starting to panic but Eric is on fire

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and continuing to flip-flop between retro and deco.

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I've got a couple of jugs

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which are very sort of Art Deco in shape and form.

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It says on the base, Flaxman Ware, handmade pottery by Wade Heath.

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So they are made in Stoke-on-Trent.

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They were probably made in about 1930. Excuse me, sir.

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What sort of money are we talking on the pair of jugs?

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I have £30 on them. I can do 28.

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All right, I'll do 28 for you on that one. Thank you.

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Yes, this is a stupendous performance from the legendary Eric.

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Knocker Knowles is knocking out those deals.

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And with a severe case of antiques whiplash,

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we've whipped back once again into retro-ville.

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Is this vase purchase number six?

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Any clues? I'm looking for a mark.

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-I think Holmegaard.

-Holmegaard.

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It's very stylish, isn't it? How much is it?

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-Five.

-Five?

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£5.

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I'm not going to say no for a fiver. Thank you.

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Stylistically this should date to perhaps the '50s, '60s.

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It's been suggested it's by Holmegaard,

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which is a Danish glassmakers.

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But when I asked the price and when he said five, I thought he meant 50.

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If it had been 50 I would have thought, maybe,

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but at £5 it was a bit of a no-brainer.

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I'm not one to get glib but nice one, Knocker!

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This man is a pro.

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It sounds like he's found a sensational final bargain.

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But what of Catherine?

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She doesn't belong in Eric's shadow

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but he does have her on the back foot.

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Can she pull it back or is she done for?

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Remember Plan A, follow Eric's lead?

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Well, that worked for her earlier,

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could she do it again by buying some scales of her own?

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Look at the shape of that pan, that is absolutely lovely.

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It's a bit like a pear. But would people actually use the scales?

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I don't think so. I think they are there purely as a decorative piece.

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They are probably about 1930s, 1940s.

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So with a swift bit of haggling,

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Catherine snaps up the scales for £12.

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She now needs to throw everything she's got

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into a comprehensive comeback.

0:19:010:19:03

Good job she can't see ice-cool Eric now,

0:19:030:19:05

relaxing with a soft, whipped cone, and the pressure is really on.

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The booters won't be here for much longer.

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Will a second musical instrument do the trick?

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She is drawn to an electric guitar.

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-How much did you want for it?

-45.

0:19:170:19:19

Oh, no, I can't spend that.

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It's too much of a gamble for me.

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-Make an offer.

-20 quid.

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My son gave me a minimum price, I think we've gone below that.

0:19:260:19:28

HE LAUGHS

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-What's the minimum?

-Say 35.

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No, no. Because I would be taking a risk.

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-I'd give you £20 for it.

-30 is a real low price.

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I've come down from 45 to 30, that's a big reduction.

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-Go on, £20.

-25.

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Shake your hand at 25.

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Why, oh, why did I buy an electric guitar,

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when I know absolutely nothing about them?

0:19:560:19:59

Having said that, I do recognise this name, Squire.

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Perhaps it's got a few strings missing,

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but this is a guitar that has been truly loved.

0:20:060:20:10

I think I'm going to make money on it, and I'm truly rocking!

0:20:100:20:14

# Rocking all over the world...#

0:20:140:20:16

Yes, it looks like Catherine's got her confidence back.

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She's being careful with her money,

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which in this game is half the battle.

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And before our lady calls it a day, she makes one quick final purchase.

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I could not resist this last-minute purchase.

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I've bought a lovely pair of taps to go on a fantastic butler sink.

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They are French,

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and they've got the name on the top of the Orient Express.

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I would say they are probably about 20 or 30-years-old.

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I only paid £15.

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So Mr Knocker Knowles, you may be going down the plughole.

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Oh, that's fighting talk from the lady!

0:20:540:20:57

It's been a piping hot day

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and our experts have made it through just about unscathed.

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Let's find out how much they spent in total.

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Both our dealers arrived in Battersea with £250 to spend.

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Eric started slowly but warmed up with the weather.

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He made six purchases for £178.

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Catherine started well but slowed right down in the heat.

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She bought seven items but spent a lot less - £107 all up.

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So, let's move into the shade and see what they make of each other's booty.

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Eric! How was it?

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How was it? Well, it happened, didn't it? You know.

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I mean, you arrive at a car boot and you think,

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"What on earth am I going to buy here?"

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And then, as if by magic, we do find things.

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I'll tell you what, it couldn't be more different, could it?

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Mine's a bit of a mishmash. Yours seems a bit more defined.

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We do share an interest in scales in common!

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-We've both got the scales.

-OK.

-How much were yours?

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-Mine? 25. What about yours?

-12.

-Oh, 12.

-Mm.

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So Eric, what's your favourite piece?

0:22:020:22:05

I think the girl tips the balance.

0:22:050:22:07

Which was the one that floated your boat?

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-Well, strangely, it's actually the taps!

-Really?

0:22:100:22:15

-And are you going to polish those to oblivion?

-Not at all.

0:22:150:22:17

-No. You're going to keep the patina?

-I love them like that.

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I'm just really shocked at our differences.

0:22:200:22:24

Well, as they say in certain parts of Wales, vive le difference!

0:22:240:22:27

-Vive la difference! Bon chance!

-OK. Au revoir.

-Au revoir.

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Mon cher!

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Now, this is where the whole game shifts up a gear

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as our Baron and Baroness of Buying become Squires of Selling.

0:22:390:22:44

The next part of their mission is to make maximum money from their car boot bits.

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It's noses to the grindstone, because whoever winds up

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with the biggest profit, will be crowned champion.

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They need to be able to pitch their purchases perfectly.

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So they must now analyse their acquisitions.

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And at Knocker Towers, Eric is buoyed by his bargains.

0:23:000:23:04

My big spend at £45 was my Portmeirion Totem design coffee set.

0:23:050:23:11

And the main thing is it's all there. No chips, no cracks or anything.

0:23:110:23:14

My second biggest price was £40 for my Art Deco style figure.

0:23:140:23:20

I don't think she's period. But there's no doubting that my ewers are 1930.

0:23:200:23:24

They're made by Wade Heath. But for £5,

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I find myself with a Holmegaard.

0:23:270:23:30

Well, I've yet to do my research, but I was sold it as a Holmegaard vase.

0:23:300:23:34

My candlesticks, which I was thinking actually of polishing.

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But I've decided just to leave them as they are.

0:23:370:23:40

The only thing that you can hardly describe as being stylish

0:23:400:23:43

are my postal scales.

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The one thing going in their favour is that they've got their original weights.

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So all in all, I'm quite happy with what I bought on the day.

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Catherine has returned home to Kent.

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She's got one more item to sell than her rival.

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So how confident is the cunning one?

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I'm rather pleased with my selection because it is a real cross section of items.

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First of all, my guitar, that was a last-minute purchase.

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And at £25 I was actually rather pleased with that.

0:24:100:24:14

My taps - I love these taps.

0:24:140:24:16

I think they would look wonderful in a big white butler sink.

0:24:160:24:21

And my punky designer bag, which I'm rather happy with -

0:24:210:24:24

I think that was actually a bit of a bargain.

0:24:240:24:27

People love these vintage suitcases now, these brown suitcases.

0:24:270:24:30

It's a little bit tatty, but it's got the name Harrods inside.

0:24:300:24:34

My advertising tin has got a fabulous image of these lovely children on the front.

0:24:340:24:39

I know a vintage sweet shop who are interested in this already,

0:24:390:24:43

and I'm also going to try and see if I can flog them

0:24:430:24:47

the scales at the same time. Now this is my number one item,

0:24:470:24:52

because this is in fabulous condition.

0:24:520:24:54

£25 I paid for this flute.

0:24:540:24:57

This is the piece that's going to make me my money.

0:24:570:25:01

So, watch out Mr Knowles. You've got your work cut out.

0:25:010:25:06

Yes, the golden girl means business.

0:25:060:25:09

Our battle hardened veterans have taken stock

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and set their sights on target profit.

0:25:120:25:14

First they must plunder their contacts book

0:25:140:25:17

and set up sales across the country.

0:25:170:25:19

And hopefully they'll be trading up for truck loads of cash.

0:25:190:25:22

But remember, until they've shaken on it

0:25:220:25:25

and the money has changed hands, no deal is truly sealed.

0:25:250:25:28

Catherine is going straight in with her prize purchase, the flute.

0:25:300:25:34

And she's brought it to a music shop in Croydon.

0:25:340:25:37

-Hello, Jonathan.

-Hello, there.

-Catherine Southon, hi. Nice to meet you. Hi, there.

0:25:370:25:41

Wonderful shop, first of all.

0:25:410:25:44

Well, it's the oldest shop in Croydon. 16th century,

0:25:440:25:47

and we've been here around about 13 years.

0:25:470:25:50

-I've come to show you this flute.

-Right, let's see what we have here.

0:25:500:25:54

-So this is a Buffet Crampon.

-Is it French?

0:25:540:25:57

It's a French company but actually this was either made

0:25:570:26:01

in the UK or possibly Germany.

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A student instrument, silver-plated. It's a beginner flute, basically.

0:26:030:26:07

-Right.

-This would have been made probably in the sort of '80s, '90s, something like that.

0:26:070:26:13

Not that old. Let me just see whether it's in working condition.

0:26:130:26:19

HE PLAYS

0:26:190:26:22

-That sounds perfect to me!

-It's all there, yeah. It's all there.

0:26:290:26:33

The pads are in very good condition. The pads are what actually

0:26:330:26:36

sort of seal the tone holes and make the flute work.

0:26:360:26:39

We'd be looking probably around sort of £70 or £80, something like that.

0:26:390:26:42

-80 would be wonderful.

-75. We'll meet halfway.

0:26:420:26:46

-75?

-75.

-Are you happy with that?

-You've got a deal.

0:26:460:26:48

I'm going to shake your hand on that. Thank you ever so much.

0:26:480:26:52

-That's wonderful.

-Not a problem at all. Thank you.

0:26:520:26:54

Yes, Catherine knew it was the item to make the money.

0:26:540:26:56

The flute hits all the right notes and brings a profit of £50.

0:26:560:27:01

Eric's got some bold gameplay in mind as well.

0:27:010:27:04

He also wants to shift his biggest investment first.

0:27:040:27:07

The Portmeirion tea set he bought for £45.

0:27:070:27:10

He's driven to Stoke-on-Trent to the Portmeirion pottery,

0:27:100:27:14

hoping they'll want it for their own collection.

0:27:140:27:17

-Julian, good to meet you.

-Nice to meet you, too, Eric.

0:27:180:27:20

You had the distinction of actually working with Susan Williams-Ellis

0:27:200:27:24

-who designed my coffee set?

-I did. Back in 1984 I joined Portmeirion

0:27:240:27:30

and I had the pleasure of working with Susan for a good 15 years.

0:27:300:27:34

So tell me a little bit about the Totem design?

0:27:340:27:36

It is an iconic shape from the '60s. A lot of people were inspired by that within the ceramics industries.

0:27:360:27:42

For me, it's a piece of art. Even though I can use it,

0:27:420:27:45

I probably would rather look at it.

0:27:450:27:47

-What year did she design this?

-She designed it in 1962

0:27:470:27:52

and it went first to market in 1963.

0:27:520:27:55

I was staggered when I got in touch with you all to find

0:27:550:27:58

that you didn't have a Totem coffee set in dark olive green.

0:27:580:28:04

We don't. I wish we did. And possibly we may well soon.

0:28:040:28:08

I was looking for somewhere around about £120.

0:28:080:28:14

So how does 100 sound?

0:28:140:28:17

-I'll take £100. OK.

-Brilliant. Thank you very much.

-Excellent.

0:28:170:28:20

And welcome home!

0:28:200:28:23

Eric is the master. The tea set has returned to its rightful home

0:28:230:28:26

and Knocker claims a profit of £55.

0:28:260:28:29

Well, I think I can describe that as a satisfying conclusion,

0:28:290:28:34

and something of a bonus to actually meet somebody

0:28:340:28:38

who worked with Susan Williams-Ellis. So, onwards and upwards.

0:28:380:28:44

Aw, bless him. Eric always has a little frisson of excitement when he visits a pottery.

0:28:440:28:49

Our two thrill seekers are pretty much level pegging at this stage.

0:28:490:28:54

But Catherine is off again.

0:28:540:28:56

She's looking to bag a profit from her red designer handbag.

0:28:560:28:59

She's meeting Judy. And it looks like she might be a fan of red.

0:28:590:29:03

-Hi, Catherine!

-Lovely to see you. You look fabulous, as always.

0:29:030:29:09

You haven't disappointed, in lovely red!

0:29:090:29:11

Anyway, I've brought you something. What do you think?

0:29:110:29:15

-Is it new?

-It's not brand-new, no.

0:29:150:29:18

But I bought it because I just love the colour,

0:29:180:29:20

-I loved the sort of punky look to it.

-It's slightly distressed.

0:29:200:29:24

-It is distressed.

-Can I try it?

-Oh, please.

0:29:240:29:28

I just thought it was a really nice shape

0:29:290:29:32

-and I loved all the little belts, the straps.

-I'm not sure.

-Oh!

0:29:320:29:35

-Are you really not sure?

-I'm really not sure.

0:29:370:29:39

-I've actually bought quite a lot of red bags in my time.

-I can imagine!

0:29:390:29:44

If I was going to buy that, I don't think I'd pay more than £15 for it.

0:29:440:29:48

I paid £12 for it.

0:29:480:29:50

-I'd go for 15 then, Catherine, no more.

-Are you happy with that at 15?

0:29:500:29:55

-Yes.

-Shall we shake on £15?

-Yes, let's.

-Thank you so much, Judy.

0:29:550:29:59

Well, I'm so pleased that Judy liked it.

0:29:590:30:03

But that's still only a couple of pounds in the bag.

0:30:030:30:06

I really need to get cracking.

0:30:060:30:09

She's not wrong. A £3 profit really doesn't cut the mustard

0:30:090:30:13

when she is up against the legend that is Eric Knowles.

0:30:130:30:16

He's hoping his scales will tip things even further in his favour.

0:30:160:30:20

He has taken them to the British Postal Museum in Loughton in Essex.

0:30:200:30:24

# Postman Pat, Postman Pat...#

0:30:240:30:26

And Put Your Money's answer to Postman Pat is meeting

0:30:260:30:29

one of the museum's curators, Vicky.

0:30:290:30:32

-Hello, Vicky. Lovely to meet you.

-Lovely to meet you, too.

0:30:320:30:35

-What a place to work!

-Yes, it's fantastic.

-Isn't it just?

0:30:350:30:39

Well, we have over 50,000 objects in our museum collection,

0:30:390:30:42

and two and a half miles of archive. And they range from everything...

0:30:420:30:45

You can see the vehicles - we have underground trains, paintings,

0:30:450:30:48

we have lots of social history stories as well as stamps

0:30:480:30:51

-and stamp artwork as well.

-But what about scales?

0:30:510:30:55

-We do have some of those, yes.

-Right.

0:30:550:30:58

-Well, I brought along my humble little postal scales.

-Yes.

0:30:580:31:01

And I would value your expertise,

0:31:010:31:04

cos I'm not absolutely certain exactly how old they are.

0:31:040:31:07

-Would you like to have a peruse?

-Yeah, sure. Thank you.

0:31:070:31:10

Well, they're a lovely set of items.

0:31:100:31:12

I really like this detail here, which has the inland letter post and pricing.

0:31:120:31:17

It says that 4oz is a penny.

0:31:170:31:20

The penny post really died out with the First World War.

0:31:200:31:23

I would say these were pre-First World War, so we would be interested.

0:31:230:31:27

But I would need to compare them to what we already have,

0:31:270:31:30

to make sure we're not duplicating our collection.

0:31:300:31:33

And also, discuss it with another member of the curatorial team

0:31:330:31:35

-so that we can give you a final decision.

-OK.

0:31:350:31:38

-That's our acquisition policy.

-I'm prepared to sell those for £50.

0:31:380:31:43

OK, £50. That does sound like a fair price.

0:31:430:31:46

-Like I said, we just need to go away and look at things at our side and get back to you.

-OK.

0:31:460:31:51

Oh, that's a fly in the ointment. No special delivery of cash yet.

0:31:510:31:56

But Eric has a first-class attitude to the delay.

0:31:560:31:59

I've got to admit, this was very much a spur-of-the-moment visit,

0:31:590:32:03

and it's quite normal with a museum

0:32:030:32:05

that they've got to go through all the proper channels.

0:32:050:32:08

So, in the meantime, while I wait for their stamp of approval,

0:32:080:32:12

I'll also be waiting for a phone call.

0:32:120:32:15

So will Eric post a profit?

0:32:150:32:18

He, and we, will have to wait until later to find out.

0:32:180:32:22

Until a decision is reached,

0:32:220:32:23

there's only £2 between our charming challengers,

0:32:230:32:26

so can Cunning Catherine upset the status quo

0:32:260:32:29

and strum up a profit with her next item?

0:32:290:32:32

I'm in Chislehurst,

0:32:320:32:34

and I've come to see Pete, who's a guitar instructor.

0:32:340:32:38

Now, at the moment, he should be giving a lesson to Ian,

0:32:380:32:41

and Ian's expressed some interest in my electric guitar.

0:32:410:32:46

Catherine's instrument has a few strings missing,

0:32:460:32:49

so will Pete and Ian see past that?

0:32:490:32:51

So remember your anchor finger, yeah.

0:32:510:32:53

Hello, chaps! Sorry to interrupt the lesson.

0:32:530:32:56

So who's the tutor? Who's the student?

0:32:560:32:59

-Yeah, hi, Catherine, I'm Pete.

-Hello, Pete.

0:32:590:33:01

-I'm the teacher for today, yeah.

-Good to meet you.

0:33:010:33:03

-I'm Ian, the student.

-Hello, Ian. Oh, this is lovely, isn't it?

0:33:030:33:06

-Right, I'm going to give you this.

-Wow, let me have a look, OK.

0:33:060:33:09

-What do you think?

-Well, the first thing I notice

0:33:090:33:12

is that it's quite funky, cos it's only got three strings.

0:33:120:33:16

-This is a sort of standard copy Stratocaster.

-So not too bad.

0:33:160:33:20

-It's a very, sort of, good entry guitar.

-OK.

0:33:200:33:22

So the idea was, I could donate it to Peter,

0:33:220:33:25

who has students who can't afford their own guitar.

0:33:250:33:28

-That's a really, really nice idea.

-Obviously that depends on the price.

0:33:280:33:31

Obviously it depends on the price, I can see that.

0:33:310:33:33

I mean, does sort of £50-60 sound reasonable?

0:33:330:33:38

-I was sort of thinking of more about £40.

-What about 45?

0:33:380:33:42

-Yeah, I think 45.

-45? Does that sound all right to you?

0:33:430:33:47

I think £45 is a fair price for that guitar.

0:33:470:33:49

Well, I think that's so nice, that you're buying this for £45

0:33:490:33:53

and then donating it to a collection, it's a fantastic idea.

0:33:530:33:56

Now you can get on with your lesson.

0:33:560:33:57

-Yes, we will do.

-Great stuff, thank you.

0:33:570:34:00

What a nice fella, giving something back to the students of rock!

0:34:000:34:04

And a profit to Catherine of £20.

0:34:040:34:07

Eric instantly adds a counter blow.

0:34:070:34:09

He sells his brown glass vase to a lady in Northwood in Middlesex.

0:34:090:34:13

She pays £20, giving him a profit of £15.

0:34:130:34:17

Our titanic traders have been haggling hammer and tongs,

0:34:170:34:20

so let's give them a moment to catch their breath

0:34:200:34:23

as we tot up the tallies.

0:34:230:34:24

Both our experts have made a blistering start.

0:34:240:34:28

Eric "Knocker" Knowles has shifted two items and made a profit of £70.

0:34:280:34:33

But he's still waiting for the telegram from the postal museum.

0:34:330:34:37

"Cunning" Catherine Southern has notched up three certain sales,

0:34:370:34:40

and with them she's pocketed a profit of £73.

0:34:400:34:45

So it's on a razor's edge,

0:34:450:34:47

although neither Eric nor Catherine want a close shave.

0:34:470:34:50

Eric must make his next sale count.

0:34:500:34:53

He's motored all the way to the Essex coast

0:34:530:34:55

to meet an antiques dealer in Leigh-on-Sea,

0:34:550:34:57

and he's brought the Art Deco jugs that cost him £28.

0:34:570:35:02

-Jeff, good to meet you.

-And you.

0:35:020:35:03

I've got to say, I've never been in a shop quite like this.

0:35:030:35:06

So what's with the vegetation?

0:35:060:35:08

Well, my main job, actually, Eric, is I'm a gardener.

0:35:080:35:11

It's almost like a garden in a shop.

0:35:110:35:13

Yeah, but not one little bit of Art Deco,

0:35:130:35:16

and here is me bringing along a pair of Art Deco ewers.

0:35:160:35:20

I tell you what attracted me to these, it was the colour.

0:35:200:35:24

-I agree.

-It was the glaze, it was just the way they're mottled.

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-That's right.

-And because they look like they should be at the seaside.

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-Yeah.

-They've got a little bit of sunshine about them.

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The mark on the base, it says,

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"Flaxman Ware, handmade pottery, Wade Heath of England."

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It's 1930s, then, so it's got to be worth a fortune!

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I was looking for somewhere around about

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sort of £70, something like that.

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-I will offer you £60.

-I think 60, Jeff, will do the business.

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-We've got a deal.

-Lovely. Thanks, Eric.

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I'll tell you what, I'd love to have a look around your emporium.

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Come with me.

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Eric more than doubles his money and brings in a profit of £32,

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but he needs to keep up his seismic selling,

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because Catherine's had a flurry of activity.

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She sells her scales and the sweet tin

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to an old-fashioned sweet shop in West Wycombe.

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It's very nice, I think it would go lovely in our window display.

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-20 for the scales, 30 for the tin, £50.

-Fabulous.

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The double deal brings in a sweet profit of £30,

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and she's on a roll.

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She packs a punch

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by selling her suitcase to a dealer in Otford for £40,

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and £30 of that is pure profit.

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Yes, life is looking cushy in the Catherine camp.

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Will Knocker notch up enough

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to knock her with a double deal of his own?

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Still in Leigh-on-Sea, he's at another antiques shop,

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and he's hoping to rake in the readies

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with his candelabra and Austrian figurine.

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By way of a double introduction, Roger, lovely to meet you.

0:36:530:36:57

Good to see you.

0:36:570:36:58

-And my other introduction is my lovely lady...

-Yes.

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..which I would describe as sort of certainly Art Deco in style,

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the likes of which I've not come across before, I've got to admit.

0:37:070:37:11

I noticed that the facial detail is pretty good as well.

0:37:110:37:15

I like this soft gilt. So often that gold is...

0:37:150:37:18

-It's not too wild, is it?

-Sometimes it's really garish,

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and so it's... so it's tasteful in every department.

0:37:210:37:24

It's really quite a confident piece of work,

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and, as such, I'd be happy to discuss a price with you, Eric.

0:37:270:37:32

I was looking for somewhere in the sort of...£90 region.

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I'm looking more at...55.

0:37:370:37:41

55...

0:37:410:37:42

Do you think we might push it to 60?

0:37:420:37:44

Uh, yeah, I think I'd go for 60.

0:37:440:37:46

-I'm happy with that.

-And me too, Eric.

-OK.

0:37:460:37:49

Right, would you like to just put it to one side,

0:37:490:37:51

because there are a couple of other things I want to show you.

0:37:510:37:54

Well, I say a couple, they form a pair,

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a pair of plated table candelabra.

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I like them in style,

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and I quite like the fact that they're distressed somewhat.

0:38:010:38:04

What sort of date would you put on those, Roger?

0:38:040:38:06

-I would have thought these are sort of '50s.

-Yeah.

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I was looking for somewhere in the region of maybe £80 for the pair.

0:38:100:38:15

I'd like to pay 40 quid for them,

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and I really don't want to pay any more than that for them.

0:38:170:38:20

You were quick on the yes for the first one.

0:38:200:38:23

I'll be quick on the yes for the second one.

0:38:230:38:25

-Brilliant. That's great, Eric, thanks very much.

-It was a pleasure.

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Well, that was quite a drop on the candelabra,

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half of what Eric wanted,

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but Roger makes two purchases nonetheless,

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and Eric makes off with a combined profit of £25.

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Well, at least I managed a double sale,

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even though I wasn't able to double my money.

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But the main thing is, I made a profit.

0:38:440:38:48

So Knocker's knocked out all his goods,

0:38:480:38:50

but he's still waiting for the word on the all-important scales.

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Catherine has one last chance to tap a profit.

0:38:540:38:57

She's on her way to a bath specialist in Horley in Surrey,

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and she needs to play this one carefully.

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The last thing she wants to do is force it.

0:39:030:39:06

-Theresa, how nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you, Catherine!

0:39:060:39:09

Fantastic. I love these baths! They look spectacular.

0:39:090:39:13

I haven't brought you a bath, but I've brought you some taps.

0:39:130:39:16

Right, great.

0:39:160:39:18

Well, what's nice about them

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is this little indice that says "Orient Express".

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But these are antique taps,

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and these are reproduction.

0:39:250:39:27

That's right, how old do you think they are?

0:39:270:39:29

-Probably about ten-years-old.

-Oh, really?

-Yeah.

-Right.

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They're an old-fashioned design but for the modern market.

0:39:320:39:35

And they are nice, a really nice shape and everything,

0:39:350:39:37

but unfortunately, because they're reproduction,

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they're not really worth anything,

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other than for the love of restoring them.

0:39:410:39:43

Right... Are you still interested?

0:39:430:39:46

Yes, cos I really like this indice, so I think they're really nice.

0:39:460:39:49

Wonderful, I like that, wonderful.

0:39:490:39:51

So how much are you willing to pay for them?

0:39:510:39:53

Well, if you scrapped them, you would get about £15,

0:39:530:39:57

so I would give you £30.

0:39:570:39:58

-Is that all?

-I'm afraid so.

0:39:580:40:00

Oh...

0:40:000:40:01

-You wouldn't stretch it any more?

-Well, that is stretching it!

-Is it?

0:40:020:40:07

Because it would probably cost me a few hundred to restore them, you see.

0:40:070:40:10

Oh, gosh, well, I couldn't possibly charge you any more.

0:40:100:40:13

-£30, we will shake on that, shall we?

-That's a good deal.

0:40:130:40:16

Well, it might not be quite what she was hoping for,

0:40:160:40:19

but that cunning streak comes through once more.

0:40:190:40:21

She doubles her money yet again - the taps run a profit of £15.

0:40:210:40:26

I thought those taps had great potential,

0:40:260:40:29

but obviously not.

0:40:290:40:31

Well, you win some

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and you lose some.

0:40:330:40:34

Catherine's all sold up and heads off for an early bath.

0:40:340:40:38

But we finally get to the moment Eric has been waiting for.

0:40:380:40:42

Deep breaths, everyone, word is in on his scales.

0:40:420:40:46

Well, the postal museum have come back to me

0:40:460:40:48

and bad news, they don't want my scales.

0:40:480:40:52

But the good news is that I found a dealer

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who's quite happy to pay me £50,

0:40:550:40:58

so all's well that ends well.

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Well, we'll have to find out if that is true in just a moment.

0:41:010:41:04

First, let's remind ourselves of how much our dealers have spent.

0:41:040:41:08

They arrived at the car-boot sale with £250 in their pockets.

0:41:080:41:12

Eric "Knocker" Knowles bought six items and spent a total of £178.

0:41:120:41:18

"Cunning" Catherine Southon bought more but spent considerably less,

0:41:180:41:22

seven items for £107.

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But now it all comes down to how well they sold.

0:41:250:41:29

All of the money Eric and Catherine have made from today's challenge

0:41:290:41:32

will go directly to charities of their choice,

0:41:320:41:34

so let's find out who is today's

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Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is champion.

0:41:370:41:40

-Eric...

-It's that moment.

0:41:400:41:43

-Mwah!

-It is.

0:41:430:41:44

Mwah-ha-ha!

0:41:440:41:45

-So how was the selling for you?

-Well, it was interesting.

0:41:450:41:48

I actually went to meet the people at Portmeirion.

0:41:480:41:51

-Do you remember I bought the...

-I remember the Portmeirion...

0:41:510:41:54

-..coffee set?

-And you sold it to them?

0:41:540:41:55

They didn't have one, and they're adding to their museum.

0:41:550:41:58

I mean, you must have gone down the musical route,

0:41:580:42:00

-what with your guitar and your flute.

-I did...

0:42:000:42:03

Oh, yes, perfect, perfectly tuned.

0:42:030:42:05

OK, well, let's see if we're in tune with our prices, shall we,

0:42:050:42:08

and our final totals?

0:42:080:42:10

-Three, two, one.

-One.

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And we go like that.

0:42:120:42:14

-Oh!

-Oh!

0:42:150:42:17

Not much in it!

0:42:170:42:18

That is so close!

0:42:180:42:21

-Unbelievable.

-Well, it's remarkable that both of us made a profit.

0:42:210:42:24

Having said that, the coffee's on me, yes, out of my own account!

0:42:240:42:28

So the narrowest of victories for Eric.

0:42:280:42:31

If only Catherine had eked out a few more pounds for that handbag,

0:42:310:42:35

it would have been a completely different result.

0:42:350:42:38

I can't believe how close I was to Eric.

0:42:380:42:42

There was literally an inch between us, very frustrating.

0:42:420:42:47

But well done, Eric.

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The secret to this challenge

0:42:490:42:51

is to just make sure that you sell for more than you spend,

0:42:510:42:55

and then you keep your fingers crossed you've got it right.

0:42:550:42:57

Yes, when our rivals are so closely matched,

0:42:580:43:00

it means absolutely anything could happen

0:43:000:43:03

when they face their next challenge tomorrow.

0:43:030:43:05

They'll be fighting it out at an auction in Nottingham.

0:43:050:43:08

£100...

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