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This is Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is,

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the show that pitches TV's best-loved antiques experts

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against each other in an all-out battle for profit...

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Let's make hay while that sun shines!

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..and gives you the insider's view of the trade.

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Who's there?

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Each week, one pair of duelling dealers will face a different

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daily challenge...

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The original cheeky chappie! Lovely!

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..putting their reputations on the line...

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And I'm truly rocking!

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WOLF WHISTLE

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..and giving you their top tips

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and savvy secrets on how to make the most money from buying and selling.

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Get in there!

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Today's titanic tussle is an auction extravaganza between ceramic

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specialist Eric Knowles and the lady who's no stranger to the

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auction room herself, Catherine Southon.

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Coming up, Eric finds that if you chat, you could fall flat...

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Yes.

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I was too busy talking to you. I missed my lot!

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..while Catherine shows us how to spot a genuine antique...

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That is much nicer than this side.

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That's because this side has probably been in the sun.

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..and Eric has a brush with one of his icons.

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JW Waterhouse. Great hero.

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He has always been, for me, the man.

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This is Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is.

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Welcome, one,

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welcome, all, to Nottingham for a hair-raising,

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spine-tingling white-knuckle ride of a show!

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This battle of bidding, buying and bartering sees two towering trophy

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hunters go head-to-head in their eternal quest for maximum profits.

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They'll be tested to the absolute limit and only one person can win.

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So who will swagger off with gallons of glory

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and who will creep away, snivelling, to hide in a dark corner?

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First up, the Lancastrian lad who's risen to become antiques

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aristocracy.

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Our rosy dealer has decades of experience

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and the finest eye for detail.

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But don't be fooled by his warm character.

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Behind the smile is a cut-throat dealer that's streets

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ahead of the pack. It's the hero of the hour, the Prince of Porcelain.

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It is Eric "Knocker" Knowles!

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I am not a number. I'm a man!

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But he has a thorny competitor today.

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All the way from the Garden of England,

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our Kentish lady is as shrewd as a shrew but won't be tamed.

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When there's something she wants, wild horses can't hold her back.

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And to cap it all, she spent years

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working at some of this country's most famous salerooms.

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It's the brainy beauty with a bargain bent.

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It's "Cunning" Catherine Southon.

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Well, my bronze has been turned into pure gold!

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So she's at a distinct advantage

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here at the Mellors and Kirk auction in Nottingham,

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but our very own Robin Hood

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and Maid Marian won't be robbing from the rich to give to the poor.

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No, no!

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Our modern-day masters' motto is buy low and sell high,

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making as much profit as possible to send to their chosen charities.

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They've both ridden into town with £1,000 of their own money

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to spend and they must keep abreast of the house commission

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and fees, as those costs come out of their budget as well.

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So, they know the rules. Let's have a good, clean fight.

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Eric Knowles and Catherine Southon,

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it's time to put your money where your mouth is.

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-Hello, there.

-So, here we are.

-Here we are again.

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-We've made it to Nottingham.

-Isn't this a lovely auction house?

-It is.

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So have you got any tricks up your sleeve today? Any plans?

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I will be very cautious. I'll be very careful with what I go for today.

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I want to spend big, but I'm looking at silver,

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I'm looking at jewellery and anything else that takes my fancy.

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-OK. Listen, may the best man win and may the best woman win.

-Good luck, Eric.

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OK.

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So, while Eric is planning to take it steady,

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Catherine's going all-out to spend her money.

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And that requires precision planning.

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I'm going to broaden my horizons, look for about 20, 30 items,

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and then, if they're going cheap, I will jump in at the last minute.

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Aha! She's biding her time to bring home the bargains.

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Eric, however, could not be doing it more differently.

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It's very easy to have a go at something in an auction

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because it seems to be going cheap.

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And if it's going cheap, there's usually a jolly good reason.

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So I've got to be very businesslike today.

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Knocker Knowles there trampling all over Catherine's strategy.

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We'll soon see which of our bullish bargain hunters is on target,

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but before the auction starts, both dealers must assess what's on offer.

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And a close inspection is key.

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Once the bidding begins, snap decisions will come thick and fast.

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Catherine said she wanted to spend big,

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but the first lot she spots is really quite small.

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Look at these! Gentleman's cuff links. They are nine-carat gold.

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They've got these little foxes' heads mounted on both sides

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and then they're inset with little red stones.

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I'm definitely, definitely going to give these my best shot.

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Across the room, Eric has spotted the huge collection of lots

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that take him all the way back to his childhood.

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When I was a boy, everybody's grandma had these

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and they were just ornaments.

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But now, there's a huge collecting market.

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You've got to see merit in what might otherwise be questionable.

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And, when it comes to ceramics,

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there's nothing questionable about Knocker's knowledge.

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For Catherine, there's no question about the quality of her next find.

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Really nice caddie, that. Beautiful sarcophagus shape.

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And I do like the inlay. Tea caddies have gone down a little bit.

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But that's a jolly nice example.

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The problem comes if everyone thinks it's a good piece.

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The last thing Catherine wants is stiff competition in the same room.

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Eric continues his look at the lots

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and comes up with a set of six cut-glass goblets.

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Stylistically are often called rock crystal.

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These are definitely 20th century

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and they could even be within my lifetime.

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And for the benefit, if you're... I can tell you now that I'm over 21!

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Hold the front page!

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Our pair of powerhouse purchasers must take their catalogues

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and position themselves. The auction is about to commence.

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This will be a dog-eat-dog battle, but when the gavel falls,

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who will be hounding down the big profits

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and who will be barking up the wrong tree?

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As the auction action gets under way,

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it's not long before Catherine's cuff links come up.

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I've got a feeling they're going to do very well.

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I really like them.

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60. 70. 80.

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90. 100. 110 I'll take.

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And 110 over here.

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£110 on my right I sell.

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Just a single bid from Catherine is all it took.

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She wanted jewellery and she got some straightaway.

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Including commission, she pays £133.10.

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She's thrown down the gauntlet,

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but Eric could be about to pick it up as the auction moves on to

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a pair of mid-19th century grape shears which come with

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a Victorian teapot stand.

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25, anywhere?

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25. 30. 30. 35. 35. I'm selling at 35.

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I do apologise. I'll go and get my number.

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-I'm being very unprofessional.

-Oh, Eric! Schoolboy error!

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In his excitement, he's forgotten his number for the bidding!

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I am not a number. I'm a man!

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Yes, but in an auction, every man needs a number.

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Thankfully, Eric is forgiven.

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Once he's sorted himself out, the grape shears

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and stand cost him £42.35, with fees.

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So does he think they were a snip?

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They're not silver. They're silver plate.

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And I would suspect that they probably date to about 1860.

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This is the sort of thing that would have been made for that

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burgeoning Victorian middle class.

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And no self-respecting lady of the house would ever,

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ever expect her friends to pick the grapes off the actual bunch.

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And it came with this - a navette-shaped teapot stand.

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And both probably made in Sheffield.

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But this is basically a layer of silver and a layer of copper

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and another layer of silver.

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Our duke of dealing is up and running,

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although Catherine spent three times as much.

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And she might be about to fork out much more.

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She's preying on her next target.

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Next item are two really nice,

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matching George III silver sauce ladles.

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And I have put on them 150, 160.

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But I might be pushed to go a little bit higher.

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Well, Catherine may have competition.

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Unbeknownst to her, Eric also has an eye for the ladles.

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-This could be a clash of the Titans!

-Go in bold. Be brave.

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-64.

-He's in!

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-60. 70. 70. 80.

-She's going for it!

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110. 120. 130. 140.

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At 130 on my right. I sell at £130.

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Oh! Having bumped up the price, Eric ducks out, leaving Catherine

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to pay £157.30 for the early 19th century ladles, including fees.

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The naughty Knowles!

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Not content with making his opponent pay more,

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Mr Knowles decides to play mind games to unsettle her even more.

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-They did have a problem. Did you spot it?

-Oh, no! Don't tell me that now!

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-Oh, no! Didn't notice?

-No, what?

-They are left-handed ladles!

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Did you check them? They are left-handed ladles!

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-I know that cos my dad's taught me all this stuff.

-Left-handed?

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Left-handed. Go and check them.

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It's a rather convincing act from old Knocker

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but he's not the only one with top-notch knowledge.

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Catherine can't be fooled.

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Left-handed ladles, indeed.

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He's a cheeky one, that Mr Knowles.

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George III sauce ladles.

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Even the marks on the bottom are really nice.

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They're not rubbed in any way. They're nice and clear.

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We've got the maker's initials there as well.

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I think they might be a bit of a bargain.

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Catherine's pleased with her purchase

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despite Eric's attempts to wind her up.

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And if you thought he was in his element with the ladles,

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you ain't seen nothing yet. The auction moves on to pottery,

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our Knocker's favourite subject.

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And he's spotted a three-in-one lot that he likes the look of.

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It's decorated with mayflies.

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It's a perfect pot for a fisherman.

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Studio stoneware vase, dish.

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I do love studio pottery.

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Eric? Pay attention!

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I'd like to know who the potter is.

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It's got an impressed studio potter's mark.

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Eric? You're missing the bidding!

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20, final bid at 20.

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Yes! Oh. That didn't go. That didn't go.

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-I was too busy talking to you. I missed my lot.

-Oh, Eric!

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-Your second seismic schoolboy error of the day.

-I don't think it went.

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I don't think anybody wants that.

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So I might offer an after-sale.

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Which is quite legal.

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I just want to make sure it's within the rules of the game.

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It's not a game.

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It's a challenge.

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No, it's more than a challenge.

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It's a mission.

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Well, Eric's in no doubt about the enormity of the task.

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As far as the Put Your Money gamesmasters are concerned,

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after-sales happen at the auctioneer's discretion.

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It's his turf, after all. So Eric will have to wait and see.

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But maybe not alone.

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This auctioneer is super-quick.

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This is going to be a tough one.

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So, Catherine's feeling

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the barometer-busting pressure in the saleroom as well.

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After forgetting his paddle number and then missing a lot,

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Eric finally manages to get it together for the next lot

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he's earmarked, the cut-glass goblets he saw earlier.

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The set of six set him back £96.80 after fees.

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Eric now sets his sights on that riot of rabbits,

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the Pendelfin porcelain.

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Four lots are available and Eric decides to go for the first,

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a picnic stand and jetty, which he buys for £36.30 with fees.

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But our Eric's not satisfied with just one piece.

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He decides he fancies the second lot, a house and cottage.

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Yep, he gets those. But they cost considerably more.

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Including commission, £96.80.

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Right, so that's that, then.

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No, wait a minute, there's more. He's going for the Romany caravan.

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His third piece cost him £121 with fees.

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He is all done. At... What?! Not more, surely!

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Now he's buying the actual figurines!

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After auction costs, the fourth lot of Pendelfin costs Eric £108.90.

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There are no more rabbits to be had, so is the man finally done?

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Is there some fiendish masterplan that he's yet to reveal?

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I think I've just spent half my budget on Pendelfin ware.

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Well, not quite half,

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but any more rabbits and he'd be a HARE's breadth away!

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Let's take a break from the bunnies

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and see what that little run of spending has done to the figures.

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Both Eric and Catherine started the day

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with £1,000 of their own money to spend.

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Including his plethora of Pendelfin,

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Eric has bought six lots

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and spent £502.15, leaving

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a healthy £497.85 in his kitty.

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Catherine has a lot of catching up to do.

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She has got two lots under her belt

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for £290.40,

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meaning she has a hefty

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£709.60 to play with.

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Before she can get on with the game,

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Catherine has to find out why Eric's indulged in such a spending spree.

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What is going on? What are you doing?

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Do you remember Mary, who was quite contrary?

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This is the male version. It's Eric the Contrary.

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I just thought, in for a penny, in for a pound.

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Now I think you're the calmer one, because you've got quite a few items

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under your belt now, and I am beginning to panic.

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Why go through life playing safe?

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There's got to be a bit of danger.

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We're both danger devils.

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ERIC CHORTLES

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Despite Eric's explanation for his bunny bonanza,

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Catherine's left wondering

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if the pressure has left Knocker a few pots short of a pottery.

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Why has he bought so many rabbits?

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I must be missing something there.

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I don't think those things are terribly desirable.

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But I'm sure he'll pull something out the bag.

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Just hopefully not any more of those rabbits!

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Well, Catherine must move on.

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She's seriously trailing now and needs more luscious lots.

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Just to increase her woes, Eric spots a chamber pot

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and he wants to have a go on it, so to speak!

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At £35, I can sell for 35. All done?

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And Eric gets it. With fees,

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the chamber pot cost him £42.35.

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I'm holding a toilet.

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I'm holding a pewter chamberpot.

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And it is of a type that is referred to as a Welsh hat because,

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if you were to turn it upside down,

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then it does actually resemble

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one of those tall hats with which

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you associate Welsh ladies taking tea.

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But this is almost certainly very, very early 19th century,

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and there is a market for this sort of thing.

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Eric's flushed with pride for his pot.

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He's now bought seven lots compared to Miss Southon's rather paltry two.

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Is he sending her campaign down the pan?

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Well, not if Catherine has anything to do with it.

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She picks herself up

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and almost straightaway

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bags a Victorian rosewood snuffbox

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in the shape of a shoe.

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She pays £72.60, with fees.

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The thing that slightly worries me about this one, and that's

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probably why I got it fairly cheap,

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is that this is two-tone.

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That is much lighter than this side.

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That's because this side has probably been in the sun.

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It shows that it's not fake.

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And it's probably Victorian, I would say mid-Victorian.

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But, apart from the two-tone, quite a nice example.

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So can Catherine capitalise on her success? She still needs

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to claw her way back into the game, and it's not long before she spots

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-a 19th-century French bronze statuette.

-This is nice.

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70, 80. £80. 90.

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100? £90...

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What shall we bid...?

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I'll take one more.

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£100.

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Ooh, a moment's hesitation there.

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Very unlike our normally decisive dealer.

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Catherine pays £121 with fees.

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But did she spend

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more than she really wanted?

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I think maybe I did pay a little bit too much for him.

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Because he's dressed in 18th-century costume

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but I would say this is probably mid-to-late 19th century.

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I just think it's actually quite nicely cast.

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There's a lot of detail there.

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I like the way he's standing

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and I like the way he's got his arm on the trunk.

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I think it's a nice thing, a nice pose.

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With epic determination, Catherine is gradually catching up on Eric.

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She's moving at an ever-increasing rate of knots

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and now has her opponent in her sights.

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But can she draw level by purchasing

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that rosewood tea caddy that she liked so much earlier?

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£50 for the caddy I'm bid. 50, 60, 70, 80. 90 for it?

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-£80...

-Oh, that's cheap.

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Sell at £80.

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Thank you.

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Well, it's not quite so cheap

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once the commission's added.

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A total of £96.80,

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but Catherine must be pleased.

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No cracks, no major damage.

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And I think there's certainly some money in that.

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Well, Catherine may not have caught up with Eric, but after that

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flurry of bidding, she's certainly raised her sinking ship.

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But Captain Eric has the wind in his sails

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and ploughs on with another purchase.

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He pays £169.40

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for something called an oleograph.

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What's an oleograph, Eric?

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An oleograph is a technique where

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the image is printed in such a way as to emulate an oil painting.

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They've gone one step further with this one

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because there is some hand-painted decoration.

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This is Hylas And The Nymphs.

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This is lots of flesh.

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But, as far as the Victorians were concerned, it's nudity and art,

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and if it's art, it's perfectly acceptable.

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The original is about five times the size of this.

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It is one of my favourite finds of the day.

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But it turns out not to be his last.

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Remember the stoneware he missed out on because he was chatting?

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I've actually been to see the auctioneer

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and I've done what is known as an after-sale.

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I offered £20 and he said, "Yep, that's OK by me."

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So, for £20, I've got myself one nice vase,

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one nice dish

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and one nice piece of slipware.

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Not bad going, really.

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Add the fees in to the lot

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that almost got away

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and Eric pays £24.20

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for the three pieces.

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So, the gavel has dropped for the last time.

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The auction is over, the buys are bagged.

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Let's see how our competitive combatants have got on.

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Both Eric and Catherine started the day with £1,000 of their own money.

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Despite some serious messing about at the beginning, Eric

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pulled in an impressive haul of nine items,

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costing him £738.10 in total.

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Catherine found it harder to spend her money.

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Thanks to a cunning comeback,

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though, she leaves with five lots,

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having spent £580.80.

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So, as they hang up their buying boots,

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our brave bidders come together to assess each other's items.

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So we came, we saw,

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we bid and we bought.

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I've gone down the traditional route.

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I'm actually attracted by a pair of sauce ladles that could...

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-Left-handed ones!

-Oh, you've tried them since I spoke to you?

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They're definitely left-handed ones.

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Good, good, well, you've learned something, haven't you?

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So, what's your favourite piece, then?

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Well, I love these glasses.

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-This is quality glassware.

-They are beautiful.

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But they're not signed, and that has me totally baffled.

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I think you may just, because of the sheer quantity,

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I think you are going to pull it off with those,

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-and I wish you lots of luck with it, my friend.

-OK.

-Good luck.

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-And you, too.

-And I'll see you later.

-Adios!

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Yes, our bidding buccaneers hit the road and head home because,

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believe it or not, buying is the easy bit.

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Now they must do a full about-turn and switch their mindset to selling.

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And this is where things get really tricky.

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Eric and Catherine will have to knuckle down

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and bite the bullet and sell, sell, sell.

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Because only one dealer can win.

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At the auction, Eric was on top form,

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but now he's back in Buckinghamshire at Knocker HQ,

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is he still feeling so positive about his purchases?

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I am actually quite happy with what I ended up with.

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I've got some silver-plated grape shears

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and that came in the same lot with

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a Sheffield plate teapot stand.

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Not many people would necessarily want a pewter chamberpot

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but when it's an early 19th-century example, they might think twice.

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Doing my bit for my former home part of the world

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which is Burnley, Pendelfin figures.

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Now, they may look twee but they are collectable.

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And then if I want to drink in style,

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I've got six beautiful rock crystal cut glasses.

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Paid round about £100 for those, which I know is an absolute bargain.

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The studio pottery. I bought them as an after-sale, I paid £20 for them.

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I thought they were worth a go.

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But my real treasure is my Pre-Raphaelite painting.

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It's actually an oleograph.

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It is Hylas And The Nymphs,

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it is after the original by JW Waterhouse,

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so all things being equal, not a bad day.

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I think Lady Luck did a certain amount of smiling

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and a certain amount of grinning.

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But Lady Luck wasn't quite so kind to Catherine.

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She had a more challenging time in the saleroom.

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She's now back in her Cunning quarters in Kent.

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So does she feel relaxed about the terrifying task ahead?

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The item I am very happy with are these little cuff links.

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They're nine-carat gold and they've got little foxes' heads on them

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with ruby eyes. The snuff shoe, the problem is, you see them everywhere.

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I paid £157 for these ladles.

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They may cause me a bit of a problem.

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I do like this little bronze statue.

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I think he's really nicely cast.

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Tea caddy. I'd like to think that I could sell it to a tea shop.

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All in all, I haven't really got big ideas on anything here.

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But at least, Eric, I don't have to sell those Pendelfins.

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Well, it's fair to say Catherine's not got her usual sparkle.

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But she's right about Eric's colony of rabbits.

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But being the Prince of Pottery,

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he's hopefully got a number of contacts on speed dial.

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Our dealing duo must now delve into their little black books,

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trawl the internet and ask for ideas from everyone they know

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in their enormous efforts to sell every item

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for as much money as humanly possible.

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They can set up all the sales they like,

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but until they've shaken on it and the money's changed hands,

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no deal is truly sealed.

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And the overall outcome is straightforward.

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Whoever makes the most profit will win.

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And it's Cunning Catherine who gets a bite of the action first.

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She's aiming high right from the outset

0:23:570:23:59

and is hoping to pull off the rare trick of a double deal.

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I'm in Chislehurst and I've come here to see antiques dealer Terry.

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He is interested in my tea caddy and my little shoe snuff.

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Now he's a big fan of treen

0:24:100:24:12

but I don't think this is going to be a walk in the park.

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Catherine paid almost £170 for the two items combined.

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So, will Terry like either of them or will he like both?

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Now, got you a couple of items which I think you might be interested in.

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-OK.

-First of all, tea caddy. You collect them, don't you?

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I do, as you can see, I've got a few boxes lying around,

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but not a tea caddy like that. It looks very nice.

0:24:340:24:36

-Would it be rosewood?

-Looks rosewood to me.

-Looks rosewood, doesn't it?

0:24:360:24:39

The mixing bowl's obviously replaced.

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They normally are replaced, aren't they? Yeah, I like it.

0:24:420:24:46

I'd be happy to give you 140.

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140? Shall we shake on that?

0:24:480:24:51

Yes, let's shake on that. Thank you very much.

0:24:510:24:53

I've also got you this wood snuff shoe.

0:24:530:24:56

-What do you think?

-That's very nice.

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What sort of age would you put on this?

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-I would say probably mid-19th century.

-Yeah, or early Victorian.

0:25:000:25:04

-I'm thinking £70-£80?

-I'm hoping for a little bit more on that one.

0:25:040:25:10

What if I pushed it to 85?

0:25:100:25:13

-Can we push it to 90?

-I'd be happy with 90.

-£90, wonderful.

0:25:130:25:17

-That's fantastic.

-Thank you very much.

0:25:170:25:19

-So that's 90 on this one and 140...

-140 on that, so 230 for the two.

0:25:190:25:23

How about we put this caddy to some use and you make me a cup of tea?

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-Sounds a great idea.

-Go on then.

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# So Fred said let's have another cup of tea... #

0:25:280:25:30

Well, Catherine definitely deserves that cuppa. What a double deal,

0:25:300:25:34

bringing in a profit of £60.60, which reduces her workload considerably.

0:25:340:25:38

That cunning streak is shining through.

0:25:380:25:41

So, the onus is already on Eric, but he's quick off the box as well

0:25:410:25:45

and plunges straight into selling mode.

0:25:450:25:48

He's in North London and are starting with his star item,

0:25:480:25:51

the oleograph by JW Waterhouse

0:25:510:25:53

and he's been very clever in finding his potential buyer.

0:25:530:25:56

This is the original home of the artist himself.

0:25:560:25:59

The present-day owner has shown a real interest in doing some business.

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Peter's home includes JW Waterhouse's former studio and still has

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the original window beneath which the artist produced his fine works.

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So, will he give Eric a profit on the near £170 he paid for the print?

0:26:140:26:19

The man in question of course, JW Waterhouse, great hero.

0:26:190:26:24

I've always been fond of the Pre-Raphaelites,

0:26:240:26:27

but he has always been for me, THE man, if you will?

0:26:270:26:31

Living here, it would be nice collecting more of his work.

0:26:310:26:35

They do tend to make several million when they do turn up,

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so you've got to have very deep pockets to be a collector.

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There it is. It is an oleograph and if you look very carefully, you can

0:26:430:26:47

-see it is a fine quality, colour print.

-Is it the original frame?

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I think it is. Let me show you the back of the frame.

0:26:510:26:54

We've just got traces there of the label.

0:26:540:26:58

I know there was an exhibition of his work, I think, in about 1908.

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That could work in from a date point of view of the piece itself.

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Nobody in the museum world that I have spoken to has come across this particular print.

0:27:060:27:12

-Obviously it is a print and more than one, more than likely?

-Oh yes, yes.

0:27:120:27:15

-We don't know how many there are?

-No, we don't. All I know is there can't be many.

0:27:150:27:21

It's very nice. I like the green, I like the colour.

0:27:210:27:24

I would comfortable to pay something like £600 for this.

0:27:240:27:27

-If we could just go that extra one?

-OK, I'll do it.

0:27:270:27:33

You're a gentleman.

0:27:330:27:35

£700! Artfully done, Mr Knowles. That research has really paid off.

0:27:350:27:40

Eric's first sale nets him a mighty starting profit of £530.60.

0:27:400:27:46

That wasn't so much of a sale, it was more of a repatriation.

0:27:460:27:49

Yes, yes, it's come home.

0:27:490:27:51

And that presumably helped the price and instantly leaves Catherine way behind.

0:27:510:27:56

She's going to have to dig deep and give the fightback everything she's got,

0:27:560:27:59

but Eric's hoping to extend his lead further.

0:27:590:28:02

He travels all the way to Staffordshire in search

0:28:020:28:05

of his next potential sale and there's nothing bog standard

0:28:050:28:08

about the item he's brought with him.

0:28:080:28:11

TOILET FLUSHES

0:28:110:28:12

Here I am at the Gladstone Museum up in Stoke-on-Trent.

0:28:120:28:17

Now the museum, believe it or not,

0:28:170:28:19

has a fantastic exhibition of early toilets.

0:28:190:28:24

But they don't have anything quite as early as my pewter witch's hat chamber pot.

0:28:240:28:29

They've seen the images of it and they like it and they want it.

0:28:290:28:33

The question is, are they going to be flushed with cash?

0:28:330:28:37

Eric paid a little over £42 for the chamber pot, so let's hope Nerys and Mary

0:28:380:28:42

from the museum are willing to spend more than a penny.

0:28:420:28:45

OK, enough with the toilet gags.

0:28:450:28:47

I'm here because of this.

0:28:470:28:50

This one is early, late 18th or early, early 19th century.

0:28:500:28:56

Having seen your exhibition over the years,

0:28:560:28:59

I was convinced initially you probably had one. But you don't?

0:28:590:29:03

We don't, no. We have lots of ceramic chamber pots but we don't have a pewter one like this.

0:29:030:29:08

So it would be a really nice addition to Flushed With Pride,

0:29:080:29:12

the toilet exhibition here at Gladstone.

0:29:120:29:15

-That's the title of the exhibition?

-Flushed With Pride.

0:29:150:29:19

Love it! Mary, I think you're the money, aren't you?

0:29:190:29:22

Well yes, I'm representing the money, but we're all in agreement

0:29:220:29:26

this would be a great addition. It obviously comes down to price.

0:29:260:29:29

-I was looking around, let's say around the £100 mark.

-Maybe 70?

0:29:290:29:34

If we could somehow get to around the £85 mark,

0:29:340:29:39

I don't think that there'd be any more haggling from me.

0:29:390:29:43

-Would you be happy with that, Nerys?

-Absolutely, very grateful as a museum.

0:29:430:29:46

Great addition to the museum.

0:29:460:29:48

-OK, all right, well, look...

-I think we can shake on that.

-I think we can.

0:29:480:29:52

Yes, Eric does the business and leaves with a profit of £42.65,

0:29:520:29:56

meaning he's doubled his money.

0:29:560:29:58

So that ups the pressure even more on Catherine.

0:29:580:30:01

She is far from fazed, though, and has gone to where the money is at,

0:30:010:30:05

a swanky location in central London.

0:30:050:30:08

I'm here in the rather grand Burlington Arcade in Piccadilly.

0:30:080:30:12

And I've come to see Michael Rose, a jeweller, with my rather foxy cuff links.

0:30:120:30:16

Wish me luck.

0:30:160:30:18

Cunning Catherine paid just over £133 for the cuff links,

0:30:180:30:22

but will Michael be dazzled into a deal?

0:30:220:30:25

-There we are.

-Lovely old box.

0:30:250:30:27

-Nice old box.

-Always a good sign.

-Always.

0:30:270:30:30

They are a pair of Country Pursuit cuff links.

0:30:300:30:33

-Foxes' heads with ruby eyes.

-What sort of date do you think these are?

0:30:330:30:38

I suspect they're sort of '40s or '50s, something like that.

0:30:380:30:42

I'll just have a little check with my eyeglass and see

0:30:420:30:45

if I can be able to determine it for you.

0:30:450:30:48

Yes, that one is from 1954.

0:30:510:30:54

You can recognise from the date letters exactly which years.

0:30:540:30:57

Hopefully this will be the same.

0:30:570:30:59

Oops, it's not, it's still Birmingham but it's 1959.

0:30:590:31:02

Looks like your chap lost one of his cuff links when he was out one night.

0:31:020:31:06

Right, so there are a few years between them.

0:31:060:31:09

What sort of price would you like to pay for something like that?

0:31:090:31:12

I would probably go to 300 though, because I quite like them.

0:31:120:31:15

They are set in a concave plate instead of it being a flat one. So I would probably pay £300.

0:31:150:31:19

So, shall we shake on £300?

0:31:190:31:22

-Yes, 300 is fine.

-300 will be lovely, thank you very much.

0:31:220:31:26

Thank you so much, they're beautiful.

0:31:260:31:28

Look at the relief! Catherine seals the deal with a smile.

0:31:280:31:31

The difference in dates had her worried there for a moment,

0:31:310:31:34

but the cuff links secure a very healthy profit

0:31:340:31:37

of £166.90 which is a serious help in her fight against Knocker.

0:31:370:31:41

So, after a quickfire few sales, let's give our dealers

0:31:410:31:44

a short breather while we find out how the money is stacking up.

0:31:440:31:47

It doesn't take a genius to work out that Eric is in the lead up this point.

0:31:490:31:53

After two deals, he's taken a wallet-busting profit of £573.25.

0:31:530:31:59

But Catherine is proving no pushover. Far from it.

0:31:590:32:02

She sold three items so far and has an admirable profit of £227.50.

0:32:020:32:08

Can Cunning Catherine continue her quest to overturn Eric's

0:32:090:32:13

early success or will Knocker Knowles clean up?

0:32:130:32:15

There's a battle and a half ahead, that's for sure.

0:32:150:32:19

Eric still has much more work to do than Catherine.

0:32:190:32:22

Seven more lots to shift in total.

0:32:220:32:24

His next stop is Worcestershire,

0:32:240:32:26

where he is meeting Bill, an expert in engraved glass.

0:32:260:32:29

Which is why Eric's brought the goblets that cost him nearly £97 at auction.

0:32:290:32:33

-These are my set of six glasses.

-They're beautiful glasses.

0:32:330:32:38

Rock crystal. Came on the scene in the 1880s.

0:32:380:32:43

Sorry to interrupt but rock crystal is the cut, isn't it?

0:32:430:32:47

-It's the cut.

-They are not made of rock crystal.

0:32:470:32:49

But it was intended to look like the natural mineral rock crystal.

0:32:490:32:53

What sort of date would you say they were?

0:32:530:32:56

-In the interwar period, the 1920s, 1930s.

-Right.

0:32:560:32:59

I'm looking for somewhere in the region

0:32:590:33:02

of round about £300 for the lot.

0:33:020:33:05

That's £50 a glass.

0:33:050:33:07

I was thinking closer to £30 a glass, to be honest with you.

0:33:070:33:09

-I'm happy to go in at about 230.

-Yeah. I would be happy at that.

0:33:090:33:13

-We'll go for 230. Put it there.

-Thank you, Eric.

0:33:130:33:16

Another sizeable deal

0:33:160:33:18

and Eric leaves with an extra £133.20 for his profit pot.

0:33:180:33:23

I made myself a reasonable profit there and you can bet your life

0:33:230:33:26

that Bill is going to make a reasonable profit as well

0:33:260:33:29

but that's what this business is all about.

0:33:290:33:31

You're not wrong there, Knocker.

0:33:310:33:33

And let's hope Catherine has her hard-nosed business head on.

0:33:330:33:37

She drives to Surrey to try and sell her sauce ladles

0:33:370:33:40

that cost around £157.

0:33:400:33:42

She's arranged a meeting at the building where she holds auctions.

0:33:420:33:45

Farid owns the restaurant downstairs

0:33:450:33:47

but that doesn't mean he'll go easy on her.

0:33:470:33:51

I've come to see you because you did say you might be interested

0:33:510:33:54

in a couple of silver pieces that I have.

0:33:540:33:58

-Do you have them with you?

-Yes, I have them with me.

0:33:580:34:00

They look beautiful on this tablecloth, don't they?

0:34:000:34:04

We have a pair of sauce ladles. These are solid silver.

0:34:040:34:08

These are beautifully hallmarked on the back

0:34:080:34:12

with the date letter and that tells us 1816.

0:34:120:34:16

-Do you like them?

-I absolutely adore them.

0:34:160:34:19

-I just thought they would be quite fitting.

-It is, actually. It's...

0:34:190:34:23

-..for the restaurant.

-Yeah, well, it's an item...

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Maybe a gift to a friend who is getting married soon.

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They are really stunning, aren't they?

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-I just think they're so elegant.

-You don't need to do any more selling.

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Don't I? Oh, good. I'm going to push my price up higher and higher.

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I would like around the 200 to 250...

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-Gosh, as much as that!

-Really? Oh, God.

0:34:430:34:47

What do you think, then?

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I was thinking of more around the £140 mark.

0:34:490:34:53

-Oh, no! Were you? What about 200, then?

-Let's go to 170.

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What is your highest? You give me your highest price.

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I think I'm going to go with 180 and I'll be very pleased to have 180.

0:35:010:35:06

-Really?

-Yeah.

-I'm not sure I would.

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Farid is driving a hard bargain.

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Catherine knows she needs more but can see her profit draining away.

0:35:120:35:16

-Go on, then.

-You have a smile. That means you have done the right deal.

0:35:160:35:19

-No. Cos... No.

-I can see it from your eyes.

-190 would be really...

0:35:190:35:23

-180.

-Go on, then.

0:35:230:35:25

-It's a deal.

-That's clearly a disappointment.

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A profit of £22.70 is all that's on the table

0:35:280:35:32

and Catherine has no choice but to accept it.

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So she needs Eric to fall at the final hurdles

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if she's to stand a chance of victory.

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Knocker has donned his wellies and come to the beautiful

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Hambleden Valley in Buckinghamshire.

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He has brought his grape shears

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and accompanying teapot stand that cost him just over £42.

0:35:470:35:51

-Michael, lovely to meet you.

-Great to meet you. Welcome.

0:35:510:35:54

The king is not so much in his counting house,

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-he's in his own vineyard here.

-Absolutely.

-Tell me about it.

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How long have you been up and running as a vineyard?

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The vineyard was planted in 1988 and we came here in 1991.

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We've got about 18 local volunteers and the idea is

0:36:080:36:11

that the profits from the vineyard

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go to the maintenance of the local church.

0:36:130:36:16

I'm here because I want to place a couple of things in front of you.

0:36:160:36:19

Let me show you my grape shears.

0:36:190:36:22

They are in the original case. They are rather lovely, aren't they?

0:36:220:36:26

This is what we normally use for cutting grapes.

0:36:260:36:29

-That's a bit more vicious.

-Probably more practical.

0:36:290:36:32

But these are much more beautiful.

0:36:320:36:34

For something like that, I'm looking for around about £90.

0:36:340:36:39

I've also got this Georgian silver plated...

0:36:390:36:42

I think what was originally a teapot stand

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but would work very well as a salver.

0:36:440:36:46

Collectively we are looking at around the 100 mark.

0:36:460:36:51

-Why don't we say two for 90?

-That leaves me fair and square.

0:36:510:36:55

Same to you. Put your hand there.

0:36:550:36:58

-We've got a deal.

-We've got a deal. Great.

0:36:580:37:01

Not a big deal but at least I've managed to double my money.

0:37:010:37:07

And I'm not one to whine but if I did, I'm in the right place.

0:37:070:37:12

Yes, absolutely. No reason to whine or moan.

0:37:130:37:16

The silver-plated items bring in a nice, shiny profit of £47.65.

0:37:160:37:21

Knocker also goes on to sell the studio pottery that he bought

0:37:220:37:25

after the auction to three separate ladies - one in Pontefract,

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one near Sheffield and one near Barnsley.

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In total he takes in £35 and that's a profit of £10.80.

0:37:320:37:36

So, the pressure is on Catherine as she reaches her last item,

0:37:360:37:40

the bronze statuette.

0:37:400:37:42

I'm here in Westerham and I've come to see Ashton at Taylor Smith.

0:37:420:37:46

He owns an antique shop

0:37:460:37:48

and he's expressed some interest in my little bronze figure.

0:37:480:37:52

Let's just hope that interest is big.

0:37:520:37:54

Catherine paid £121 for the man

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so she has the potential to make a hefty sum.

0:37:580:38:01

She knows she can't afford to leave without a decent profit and you can

0:38:010:38:04

bet your bottom dollar she'll engage every trick in the book

0:38:040:38:07

-to make sure she gets it.

-Hello, Catherine.

0:38:070:38:10

-Lovely to see you.

-And she is off to a good start.

0:38:100:38:13

-What have you brought to tempt me?

-I am trying to tempt you with this.

0:38:130:38:17

-Oh, right.

-My little bronze figure.

0:38:170:38:20

It is rather dinky, isn't it?

0:38:200:38:22

It's small but it's quite well carved, isn't it?

0:38:220:38:25

Date on this, maybe early 19th century?

0:38:250:38:28

Probably more towards the mid-19th century.

0:38:280:38:30

I agree, very good casting and excellent patination.

0:38:300:38:34

Good desk piece. Would 140 buy him?

0:38:340:38:37

Would you push it up slightly more than that? Not too much more?

0:38:370:38:41

-Catherine, you are a temptress. 150.

-Shall we say 150?

-Absolutely.

0:38:410:38:46

Wonderful. Thank you very much.

0:38:460:38:49

And Catherine's bonzer bronze brings in a bountiful profit of £29

0:38:490:38:53

and she is delighted.

0:38:530:38:55

Well, my bronze has been turned into pure gold.

0:38:550:38:59

Is it enough to crown Catherine the queen of selling?

0:39:020:39:04

We'll soon find out but it could also depend on Eric's last sale.

0:39:040:39:08

It's time to shift the rabbits and it's fair to say

0:39:080:39:12

they're an acquired taste so this really could go either way.

0:39:120:39:15

Knocker has bundled all the Pendelfin together

0:39:150:39:18

and he is back in his hometown of Burnley which, very happily,

0:39:180:39:22

is where all the items were made in the first place.

0:39:220:39:25

He's visiting Towneley Hall,

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which houses a local museum and art gallery.

0:39:260:39:30

It's a place Eric has been coming to since he was five years old

0:39:300:39:34

but that doesn't mean they'll give him a profit

0:39:340:39:36

on the £363 he paid out.

0:39:360:39:39

Two of the most important members of the Towneley Hall society.

0:39:400:39:44

-Tony, you are the chairman.

-I am.

-Peter, you are the...

-Treasurer.

0:39:440:39:48

Lovely to see you both.

0:39:480:39:50

Tony, fill me in on the actual name itself.

0:39:500:39:53

Pendelfin. Why Pendelfin?

0:39:530:39:55

The Burnley area is in the shadow of Pendle Hill

0:39:550:39:59

and the company started by making elves and that kind of thing

0:39:590:40:04

so it's Pend-elf-in.

0:40:040:40:06

-They put the two words together.

-They put the two words together.

-OK.

0:40:060:40:09

Peter, tell me how you feel this collection would fit in

0:40:090:40:12

with what you already have here at Towneley?

0:40:120:40:15

We do have a collection of Pendelfin

0:40:150:40:17

but it is only a small collection and this amount of figures

0:40:170:40:21

would definitely consolidate the collection a great deal.

0:40:210:40:24

The gentleman certainly seem keen to have the items

0:40:240:40:27

but museums don't usually have large budgets

0:40:270:40:31

so will Eric actually make a profit or could he end up giving them away?

0:40:310:40:35

We'll find out in just a moment

0:40:350:40:38

and before we reveal today's winner, let's remind ourselves of how much

0:40:380:40:41

our first-rate fighters spent at the auction in Nottingham.

0:40:410:40:45

Both our bargain hunters went to auction

0:40:470:40:49

with £1,000 of their own money.

0:40:490:40:51

Eric "Knocker" Knowles went all out and bought nine lots for £738.10.

0:40:510:40:57

Cunning Catherine Southon, on the other hand, only bought five times.

0:40:570:41:00

She ended up spending £580.80.

0:41:000:41:03

It's been a brilliant battle but how much profit has been made?

0:41:030:41:07

All of the money Eric and Catherine

0:41:070:41:09

have made from today's challenge will go directly

0:41:090:41:11

to charities of their choice. so it's time to find out

0:41:110:41:14

who is today's Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is champion.

0:41:140:41:18

-Hello, Eric.

-Hello, you.

0:41:180:41:20

THEY KISS

0:41:200:41:22

So, how was the selling?

0:41:220:41:25

The selling took me to the fair city of Burnley,

0:41:250:41:29

where they appreciate rabbits and they appreciate Pendelfin.

0:41:290:41:33

Don't tell me you made a profit on those.

0:41:330:41:35

I'm not going to tell you anything.

0:41:350:41:37

-I'd like to know how it went for you?

-I had my fox cuff links.

0:41:370:41:42

-Remember those?

-Liked those.

-They were pretty good.

0:41:420:41:46

Ah! There is a slight smugness coming over here.

0:41:460:41:49

Not too bad. Shall we have a look?

0:41:490:41:51

One, two, three.

0:41:510:41:53

-SHE GASPS

-Eric!

0:41:550:41:57

-Don't tell me that was Pendelfin!

-THEY LAUGH

0:41:570:42:00

They made a contribution of sorts.

0:42:000:42:03

I actually did have a very nice oleograph by JW Waterhouse which,

0:42:030:42:07

I don't mind telling you, earned me a very tidy profit.

0:42:070:42:12

There was never really any doubt, was that?

0:42:120:42:16

Eric walks away the unequivocal winner.

0:42:160:42:18

So what exactly happened in Burnley?

0:42:180:42:21

I wanted to offer the entire lot for £450.

0:42:210:42:24

-Are you going to be OK with that?

-I would have thought so.

0:42:240:42:27

-I think that's fine.

-Put it there.

0:42:270:42:29

-Excellent.

-Thank you very much.

0:42:290:42:32

And a case of welcome home, everybody.

0:42:320:42:35

-IN A HIGH VOICE:

-Thanks, Uncle Eric!

0:42:350:42:37

And everyone lived happily ever after.

0:42:370:42:40

The rabbits burrowed away

0:42:400:42:42

and brought in a masterful profit of £87.

0:42:420:42:44

It's an outstanding victory for Knocker and Catherine is in awe.

0:42:440:42:48

Amazing.

0:42:480:42:50

Eric won by a great margin.

0:42:500:42:54

£851, Eric. That is pretty good.

0:42:540:42:58

Well, I will be forever indebted to a certain Victorian artist

0:42:580:43:03

called JW Waterhouse because his oleograph really sealed it for me

0:43:030:43:09

when it came to winning the day.

0:43:090:43:12

But Eric won't be able to rely on placing all his eggs in one basket

0:43:120:43:16

tomorrow, when our two battling barterers will go head-to-head

0:43:160:43:19

once again and they will need to limber up with the lingo

0:43:190:43:22

as they fight it out in France.

0:43:220:43:25

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