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Hello and welcome to Film 2013 with me Claudia Winkleman. And me Danny

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Leigh. We are live, get in touch by tweeting or email. Coming up: Tom

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Hanks and Halle Berry make a connection in Cloud Atlas. What are

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you doing in here? Love and loss for Ben Affleck in Terrence

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Malick's To The Wonder. Gongs and glad rags, it's Oscar time again.

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You will procure me these votes. Plus, Robbie Collin and Xan Brooks

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Brooks are here to chat all things Oscar. First up is Cloud Atlas,

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based on the best-selling novel by David Mitchell. The film was shot

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by three directors and chronicles six narratives with actors playing

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multiple roles. This is the Cloud Atlas secretaries at the time?

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doubt there are more than a handful of coppice in South America. I know.

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It I know I know. It That is it. The music from my dream. I imagined

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us meeting again and again in different lives and different ages.

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The thing that got me about the screenplay when I read it was this

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idea we are all connected it doesn't matter when we are alive or

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not. If you want to call it something more like reincarnation,

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that is not as important to me, we are connected by the things we

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create and the decision that is we make. These forces begin long

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before we are born and continue after we perish. We live in a world

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where cinema is not allowed to have the same, kind of, of expansiveness

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that cinema once had or that literature has ever had. The

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history of literature is a history of full of philosophical

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investigation, but we never are allowed in cinema to talk about

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philosophy, explicitly. Yesterday, my life was headed in one direction.

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Today, it is headed in another. agree on, you know, so many

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substantial issues in regards to art and how we imagine cinema to be

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and what we long for in cinema nowadays. We feel it's probable

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going to triple the potential for something exciting if we do it the

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three of us. It was very democratic. Film-making is a social art form.

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And, this is a natural extension of that. Action! The idea of making a

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movie where one person got to play four or five, sometimes six

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different characters really excited me. Where we didn't always

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understand it, or we weren't always aware of how we were connecting to

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one another, they always knew that. Fear, love, the phenomenon that

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determine the course of our lives. Everything has been thoroughly

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processed and yet I believe that what we have also been able to do

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is, like, leave things open to the audience. There is not a tiny

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single spot that I feel we've been lazy with. There is a natural order

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to this world and those who try to up-end it do not farewell. Cloud

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Atlas will have passionate fans and detractors. Everyone who sees this

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film will see it with their jaw hanging open. As a book it was

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subtle and gorgeously written. As a film it is an unhinged, feel-good

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extravaganza. It is three hours long, give it or take. It cost $100

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million. It all feels like what would happen if you abducted a

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large group of actors and locked them in a fancy dress shop. You

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would come back in the morning they would have made Cloud Atlas. It's

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wildly imaginative, wildly ambition. It's also, if we are being honest,

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wildly ridiculous, from time to time. I have to be honest, it has

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been a little while since I have seen a film this stoneed. I think

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that is why I liked it. That is interesting. I thought it was...

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Hats off to them. It is a big old ride. It is long. It, sort of,

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careers around a bit. I think you just have to give them points for

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bravery. I love this tweet. Some people, like you say, very anti.,

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"disjointed and confusing, way too long, weirdly entertaining a sort

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of, "spot the actor film", now I need to read the book. ." It is

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spectacular. The acting has to go big. You have 13 actors playing the

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whole of humanity across thousands of years. Some of the cast scope

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better than others. Tom Hanks is having a good time. I have to say

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I'm not convinced he always knew there was a camera rolling. That is

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a good thing. The book, you could take it as a series of short

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stories. Everything has been cross cut here you are settling into a

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story about a love struck young composer in Cambridge when Hugo

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Weaving comes up from the future. That is distracting. I liked that.

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It was good value-for-money. As a night out... That sounds weird, I

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would say, go, it is bonkers, go. have never seen anything quite like

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Cloud Atlas before. That is not meant to sound like a backhander.

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There are things I admire about it and applaud about it. Not sure I

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would want to sit next to it on the bus. Now it's time for To The

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Wonder, Terrence Malick's latest film about life and love. You shall

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love, whether you like it or not. Emotionless, -- emotionss, they

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come and go like clouds. Love is not only a feeling, you shall love.

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To love. To love is to run the risk of failure. The risk of betrayal.

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You fear your love has died. You, perhaps, it is waiting to be

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transformed into something higher. It's instantly recognisable. It's

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filled with beauty and a sense of rapporteur in nature. It is filled

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with voice overs as well asking us questions, as we just saw like,

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"what is this love that loves us" which is what we asked ourselves

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standing in the chip chip shop. This a movie where at moments you

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are watching a masterclass in cinema. Moments you are watching

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something which is genuinely profound. There are other moments

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when you are watching something that should be projected at the

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perfume counter at a duty-free shop. There are other sections that are

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solemn. I loved it. I don't know how to say that when I look at you.

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Terrence Malick is great. It spoke to my 20-year-old self where I

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wandered around, I didn't actually. I would have liked to have wandered.

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Looking over your shoulder? Yes. You go, this is not how women are.

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Women don't give up their children for men. They are not clinging.

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They don't run in fields. That is not how we work. We like jobs,

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eating and working. Then I realised how he did men. Here is one tweet,

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"it seemed like I was one of a handful at the press screening who

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wasn't exasperated." I will see it again. I think it's horribly

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miscast. Ben Affleck is a talented man, but an actor who can express

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great emotion just by standing silently stair -- staring into the

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middle distance is he is not. I had no idea what was going on with him.

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He was confused, unwell. Olga Kurylenko spends 95% of the film

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running through fields looking over your shoulder. It is a strange

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because Terrence Malick has made a beautiful and thought-provoking

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film. His lead actors look like shop dummy ries coming to life.

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Next, Terence Stamp and Vanessa Redgrave star in Song for Marion.

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have entered us into a choir competition. Hello. What are you

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doing here? We are singing. Better get someone who can sing then.

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me your rock-and-roll. It's about two old age pensioners, married,

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completely devoted to each other. She joins a choir. He's just

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jealous. Bomb gone off in here. are making cakes. Did grandad tell

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you he came to hear me singing? wouldn't call it singing. Hip-hop.

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Like the kids. Why don't you join in. Like this.

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# Grandad's rap, it's so crap... # Who taught you that word? Grandma,

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she says she keeps having to crap. I don't know what is wrong with

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your lot, completely crackers. OK. His life is suddenly empty,

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doesn't have any reason to do anything really. Then, the Gemma

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Arterton character insist there is is something in him that he isn't

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acknowledging. Enjoy yourself? It isn't me. Let everyone see you.

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The exciting thing for me was the redemption. This is a man, very

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late in life, who suddenly has the realisation that there is something

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within him that is really alive. Would you like to sing? All right.

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You're a dark horse, Arthur. Even if I fall flat on my arse, I'm

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going to do the song. It would be easy to snipe and take pot-shots

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for it being predictable and broad and sentimental, it is all of those

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things. It is all of those things endearingly. I spent the first half

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of the film waiting for it to turn into a Mike Leigh movie. It didn't

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do that. It is not that kind of film. It is softer like the

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Calendar girls or The Full Monty. I think life is short. This film is

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actually gentle and I think it's heartfelt. I think it takes nerve

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really to make a fill thm sweet. Redgrave is absolutely brilliant.

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We had so many tweets about it, "as funny as it is hard breaking. The

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veterans command the centre stage". You were impressed? It is all about

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the performance. Terence Stamp can carry a movie. Vanessa Redgrave is

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always Vanessa Redgrave. Gemma Arterton is very strong here.

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Fantastic to see Christopher Eccleston. I wish Christopher

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Eccleston made more movies. He is good when he does. The

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relationships between Christopher Eccleston and Terence Stamp as

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father and son feels real. All those characters who may be

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cartoonish on the page feel very well real. That means the film can

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get away with being sentimental. It has something true at the heart of

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it. What is your Film of the Year? My book of the week would be Cloud

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Atlas. I would encourage everyone to get. It is a mighty thing. All

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three of the films are, as Cloud Atlas would say, interlinked. They

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are heartfelt, Cloud Atlas gives you the most bang for your buck.

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was going to say see To The Wonder? Because it is Malick, you have to

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keep up with what he is doing. Read Cloud Atlas. The Oscars take place

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this Sunday here's a quick reminder of who is leading the race. It can

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only be the 85th annual Academy Awards. Leader of the pack is

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Steven Spielberg's Lincoln. Two- time Oscar winner, Daniel Day-Lewis

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is hoping to do the triple and become the first actor to win three

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Best Actor Academy Awards. He will need them, no-one has ever won an

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Oscar for a lead role in a Steven Spielberg movie. Some things you

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can rely on. Lincoln composer John Williams gets his 48th nomination.

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11 more and he will tie with record holder Walt Disney. Next is Life of

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Pi with 11 nominations, seven of which are in the technical

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categories. It is the fourth film in Oscar history to achieve such a

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feat. Les Miserables and Silver Linings Playbook are both on song

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with eight nominations. Les Miserables is the first musical to

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be nominated for Best Picture since Chicago in 2002. Silver Linings

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Playbook has been recognised in all four acting categories. Everybody.

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With its Best Picture nod could be a contender for the big five. The

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last film to be nominated was Reds. Argo has seven nominations.

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want to come to Hollywood and act Ben Affleck is the most prominent

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2013 Oscar snub. Django Unchained and zero DUP 13

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may both have five nominations apiece but their directors Quentin

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Tarantino and Kathryn Bigelow did not make the cut. Skyfall failed to

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get into the best picture race. Amour also has five nominations,

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including one for 85-year-old Emmanuelle Riva for best actress.

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She is up against the nine-year-old start of peace of the sudden wild.

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They are the oldest and youngest nominees ever -- Beith of the

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southern wild. There are just four days left until the big decisions

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are made. Here with us now I'd journalists

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Robbie Collins and Xan Brooks. Thank you for coming in. Is it a

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good year? It is not an obvious year, is it? It is certainly an

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exciting year if you want a close race where all the challenger

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seemed to have a glass jaw. Nobody seems to have the complete

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advantage. Lincoln was leading the race at Bath does and then coming

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up short. It seems as if Argo has the momentum -- at the BAFTA ors.

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The Michael Haneke is up for best picture, Emmanuelle Riva for Best

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actress, it has nominations in all four categories. There is an

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offensive Western from Quentin Tarantino and then Lincoln which is

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a period piece. Oh great year for diversity in the top category.

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Usually it is the either / or at this pace. Now there are seven or

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eight film swirling around. Last year, we all knew it was the Artist.

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It played at Cannes in July and everybody said that will win, job

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done. This year, there was some real momentum behind Argo at

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Toronto and then when the nominations were announced and Ben

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Affleck was snubbed for Best Director, people thought it would

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not win. Since the 1930s, only one film has won best picture without a

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Best Director which was Driving Miss Daisy. Let's just remind

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ourselves of the films which were nominated in best picture category.

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You really believe this story? Osama Bin Laden? Yes.

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If you are right, the whole world will want in on this.

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Without Richard Parker I would have Bull's eye. What is your name?

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When life reaches out at the moment like this, it is a sin if you do

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not reach back. You have to do everything you can. It you stay

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positive you have a shot at a silver lining. There are millions

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in bondage and unborn millions to come. I have got an idea. They are

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Canadian film crew for a science fiction movie. Will fly out as a

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film crew. You have a better idea than this? This is the best idea we

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have, by far. I see everything that made me.

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# life has killed a dream. Hydra in. Can I just say, massive

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generalisation, men and women, you three were sobbing. Nine-year --

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nine films in best category this year, last year there were 10. What

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is missing? The Master. It is the 10th film which should be there. To

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would you agree? A wholeheartedly, yes. It is a film made for film

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lovers and incredibly informed. It draws on the traditions of American

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cinema. The performances from Robert De Niro and Orson Welles

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found all these incredible things from film history, the fact that

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the academy has not recognise that, even though it is tricky without

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the resolution at the end which people crave, to me it is

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disappointing. I remember at the time I came out, we thought, that

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has got to be it, the opening shot alone. It is this weird thing off

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films Peking and trusting. It peaked at the Venice Film Festival.

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We said there surely it is the best film of the year. I think it was a

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bit too wild and strange for the Academy. What de we think will win?

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I have the latest odds and it looks like Argo. Affleck is not nominated

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for best director. A what looked like an open race a week ago has

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narrowed down to our cost. I think it risks being... I think it risks

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becoming a trivia question in a pub quiz in 20 years' time, what won

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the best Oscar in the year that the Life Of Pi and Lincoln came out? No

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one will get it and no one will remember what Argo was. Is it the

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best film of the year? Of course it is not. People have a great deal of

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affection towards it. Something very worthy like Lincoln, the

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costumes are great, the production design is terrific, when you are

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filling out nominations that is easy to choose. When you fell out

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your ballot paper and think which of these films are excited any in

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the cinema, Argo is a film which connected people. We should

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remember that the people who voted in the Academy only had to put in

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their ballot papers on Tuesday. All the BAFTAs and all these other

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things, will they think, we snubbed Ben Affleck, it should win? Yes, I

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think he will. Of the Academy think they are being radical in going for

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Argo, it is a bit out there, not respectable history like Lincoln.

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If they wanted to be really radical they could give the best picture to

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Zero Dark 30 odd Django Unchained. This happens all the time at the

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Oscars. Look at the year Crash won. It was interesting but not two gay

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cowboys. Ang Lee also missed out that year. There is Lincoln and

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Life Of Pi, it seems you would all be delighted with Life Of Pi?

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silly. It is strange to talk about it being underrated when it has 11

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nominations but a lot of those are in the technical category and there

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is a risk it could be shunted aside. The worst anyone says about Life Of

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Pi is it is mushy. That is not criticism I accept. It could have

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been a career killer for Ang Lee. It was the book which should not be

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adapted. I think Life Of Pi is a triumph. I completely agree. Ang

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Lee took a book which was considered none the adaptable. It

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is very cinematic. When you see it you sink -- you think it is

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designed to be on the big screen. Ang Lee's achievement is much more

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so than Ben Affleck. There is also a resistance to the Life Of Pi

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because the Academy think it is too sentimental. Is there a feeling

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that they like George Clooney, they like Ben Affleck, is there a

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feeling that he deserves this? certainly have a sentimental streak

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and they have their darlings. Clooney is also -- almost becoming

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the Jack Nicholson of his generation. He is the one the

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camera cuts to and the one the host is making jokes about and he is

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laughing along with it. One of the things about the Oscars is as well

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as shining a light on great films, it can destroy a film for me. I

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liked Argo when I saw it back in the autumn. The more we are told it

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is the Oscar favourite, you think no, surely not. You have gone off

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it! You like it before it was cool. Absolutely. It reminds me of the

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Booker Prize where traditionally the book which has won the Booker

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Prize is a book which nobody has hated. It has been a compromise and

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a fudge. I think Argo risks going down in history as the film nobody

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hated. The for going on to best director, I have to ask you what

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would you like to win? In the absence of the mast I think it

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should be Life Of Pi. Life Of Pi. would go Django Unchained. Left me

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$:/STARTFEED. If David O'Russell wins I will hear you from my house?

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I'm boycotting any conversation about Silver Linings Playbook.

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Lincoln, it should be? Yes. With Barack Obama beginning his second

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term, that feels like the completion of the process that was

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started with the events that happened in Lincoln. I think,

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perhaps, there will be a move to reward Spielberg in that sense.

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There is the sense that the Best Director Oscar is seeing as a

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runner up prize, a, "thanks for trying" prize. There are lots of

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people not on this list like Bigelow or Tarantino, are you

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disappointed by their omissions? is strange. Could you have a

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parallel list. Affleck not tkwg going on -- being on that. That is

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notable. They are saying that Argo is the Best Film of the year, the

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only thing bad about it was the idiot behind it. OK. Let us remind

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ourselves who is up for Best Actor and Best Actress. You look nice.

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How did Tommy die? It was an ordinary day. You know me, I was in

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shape to fly. Do you have a problem saying that? Things that are equal

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to the same thing are equal to each other. The only way to defend

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ourselves is to attack. Calm down. It will be OK. He is dangerous.

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# Gave me hope # When hope was gone hbg he gave me

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strength to turn it on... # There are two narratives about the

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You have a problem? I have a problem? You say more inappropriate

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things than appropriate things. and my daddy, we stayed right here.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. First things first, actor,

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Daniel Day-Lewis, done. Am I wrong or right? That is a done deal.

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can move on to Best Actress. There is a lot of love for Emmanuelle

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Riva., "Emmanuelle Riva deserves all the awards. If she doesn't win

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the whole thing is a farce." Another one here, "if Jennifer

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Lawrence doesn't win they should scrap the ceremony." It is either

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or? Jennifer Lawrence has been the frontrunner for months. She was the

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frontrunner for a very long time. Emmanuelle Riva was named the Best

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Actress at the BAFTAs. I hope Oscar voters have gone away and look at

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Amour and see the complexity and depth of that performance that

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outclasses every nominee on that list. She is second odds on, if you

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like to win. Who would you like it to go to? I would like it to go to

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her too. She has the momentum. It is the best performance of the

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bunch. It is an astonishing piece of work. She has the sentimental

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value as well of being, celebrating her 86th birthday on the night of

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the Oscars. Sh shouldn't matter. The the Academy likes a good news

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story. Shame to get her from Paris to send her all the way home.

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will be voting for Emmanuelle Riva while. Why she has picked up these

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nominations, and her could-star hasn't had a nomination anywhere. I

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find it pusleing because it was a film about a couple. Best

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Supporting, that is Hathaway. There has been support for Amy Adams.

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Hathaway they will give the Oscar for Best Musical Performance not

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Best Supporting Actress. Who is Best Actress? It could be Tommy Lee

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Jones. It could be De Niro. He is gunning for. This it has been 30

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years since his last one. Who are we putting our money on? Tommy Lee

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Jones. We are back next week. We will review Stoker, Broken City,

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Arbitrage and Caesar Must Die. Playing us out tonight, West Side

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Story our opportunity to dance. In 1962 it was nominated for 11 Oscars

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and won 10, making it the musical with the most Oscar wins. A record

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