Episode 7 Film 2013


Episode 7

Film reviews. Xan Brooks and Robbie Collin join Claudia and Danny to discuss all things Oscar, ahead of Sunday's ceremony. Plus reviews of Cloud Atlas and To the Wonder.


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Hello and welcome to Film 2013 with me Claudia Winkleman. And me Danny

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Leigh. We are live, get in touch by tweeting or email. Coming up: Tom

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Hanks and Halle Berry make a connection in Cloud Atlas. What are

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you doing in here? Love and loss for Ben Affleck in Terrence

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Malick's To The Wonder. Gongs and glad rags, it's Oscar time again.

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You will procure me these votes. Plus, Robbie Collin and Xan Brooks

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Brooks are here to chat all things Oscar. First up is Cloud Atlas,

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based on the best-selling novel by David Mitchell. The film was shot

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by three directors and chronicles six narratives with actors playing

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multiple roles. This is the Cloud Atlas secretaries at the time?

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doubt there are more than a handful of coppice in South America. I know.

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It I know I know. It That is it. The music from my dream. I imagined

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us meeting again and again in different lives and different ages.

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The thing that got me about the screenplay when I read it was this

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idea we are all connected it doesn't matter when we are alive or

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not. If you want to call it something more like reincarnation,

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that is not as important to me, we are connected by the things we

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create and the decision that is we make. These forces begin long

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before we are born and continue after we perish. We live in a world

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where cinema is not allowed to have the same, kind of, of expansiveness

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that cinema once had or that literature has ever had. The

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history of literature is a history of full of philosophical

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investigation, but we never are allowed in cinema to talk about

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philosophy, explicitly. Yesterday, my life was headed in one direction.

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Today, it is headed in another. agree on, you know, so many

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substantial issues in regards to art and how we imagine cinema to be

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and what we long for in cinema nowadays. We feel it's probable

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going to triple the potential for something exciting if we do it the

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three of us. It was very democratic. Film-making is a social art form.

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And, this is a natural extension of that. Action! The idea of making a

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movie where one person got to play four or five, sometimes six

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different characters really excited me. Where we didn't always

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understand it, or we weren't always aware of how we were connecting to

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one another, they always knew that. Fear, love, the phenomenon that

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determine the course of our lives. Everything has been thoroughly

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processed and yet I believe that what we have also been able to do

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is, like, leave things open to the audience. There is not a tiny

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single spot that I feel we've been lazy with. There is a natural order

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to this world and those who try to up-end it do not farewell. Cloud

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Atlas will have passionate fans and detractors. Everyone who sees this

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film will see it with their jaw hanging open. As a book it was

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subtle and gorgeously written. As a film it is an unhinged, feel-good

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extravaganza. It is three hours long, give it or take. It cost $100

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million. It all feels like what would happen if you abducted a

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large group of actors and locked them in a fancy dress shop. You

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would come back in the morning they would have made Cloud Atlas. It's

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wildly imaginative, wildly ambition. It's also, if we are being honest,

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wildly ridiculous, from time to time. I have to be honest, it has

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been a little while since I have seen a film this stoneed. I think

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that is why I liked it. That is interesting. I thought it was...

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Hats off to them. It is a big old ride. It is long. It, sort of,

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careers around a bit. I think you just have to give them points for

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bravery. I love this tweet. Some people, like you say, very anti.,

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"disjointed and confusing, way too long, weirdly entertaining a sort

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of, "spot the actor film", now I need to read the book. ." It is

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spectacular. The acting has to go big. You have 13 actors playing the

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whole of humanity across thousands of years. Some of the cast scope

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better than others. Tom Hanks is having a good time. I have to say

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I'm not convinced he always knew there was a camera rolling. That is

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a good thing. The book, you could take it as a series of short

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stories. Everything has been cross cut here you are settling into a

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story about a love struck young composer in Cambridge when Hugo

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Weaving comes up from the future. That is distracting. I liked that.

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It was good value-for-money. As a night out... That sounds weird, I

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would say, go, it is bonkers, go. have never seen anything quite like

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Cloud Atlas before. That is not meant to sound like a backhander.

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There are things I admire about it and applaud about it. Not sure I

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would want to sit next to it on the bus. Now it's time for To The

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Wonder, Terrence Malick's latest film about life and love. You shall

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love, whether you like it or not. Emotionless, -- emotionss, they

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come and go like clouds. Love is not only a feeling, you shall love.

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To love. To love is to run the risk of failure. The risk of betrayal.

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You fear your love has died. You, perhaps, it is waiting to be

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transformed into something higher. It's instantly recognisable. It's

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filled with beauty and a sense of rapporteur in nature. It is filled

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with voice overs as well asking us questions, as we just saw like,

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"what is this love that loves us" which is what we asked ourselves

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standing in the chip chip shop. This a movie where at moments you

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are watching a masterclass in cinema. Moments you are watching

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something which is genuinely profound. There are other moments

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when you are watching something that should be projected at the

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perfume counter at a duty-free shop. There are other sections that are

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solemn. I loved it. I don't know how to say that when I look at you.

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Terrence Malick is great. It spoke to my 20-year-old self where I

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wandered around, I didn't actually. I would have liked to have wandered.

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Looking over your shoulder? Yes. You go, this is not how women are.

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Women don't give up their children for men. They are not clinging.

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They don't run in fields. That is not how we work. We like jobs,

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eating and working. Then I realised how he did men. Here is one tweet,

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"it seemed like I was one of a handful at the press screening who

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wasn't exasperated." I will see it again. I think it's horribly

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miscast. Ben Affleck is a talented man, but an actor who can express

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great emotion just by standing silently stair -- staring into the

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middle distance is he is not. I had no idea what was going on with him.

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He was confused, unwell. Olga Kurylenko spends 95% of the film

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running through fields looking over your shoulder. It is a strange

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because Terrence Malick has made a beautiful and thought-provoking

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film. His lead actors look like shop dummy ries coming to life.

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Next, Terence Stamp and Vanessa Redgrave star in Song for Marion.

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have entered us into a choir competition. Hello. What are you

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doing here? We are singing. Better get someone who can sing then.

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me your rock-and-roll. It's about two old age pensioners, married,

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completely devoted to each other. She joins a choir. He's just

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jealous. Bomb gone off in here. are making cakes. Did grandad tell

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you he came to hear me singing? wouldn't call it singing. Hip-hop.

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Like the kids. Why don't you join in. Like this.

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# Grandad's rap, it's so crap... # Who taught you that word? Grandma,

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she says she keeps having to crap. I don't know what is wrong with

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your lot, completely crackers. OK. His life is suddenly empty,

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doesn't have any reason to do anything really. Then, the Gemma

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Arterton character insist there is is something in him that he isn't

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acknowledging. Enjoy yourself? It isn't me. Let everyone see you.

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The exciting thing for me was the redemption. This is a man, very

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late in life, who suddenly has the realisation that there is something

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within him that is really alive. Would you like to sing? All right.

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You're a dark horse, Arthur. Even if I fall flat on my arse, I'm

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going to do the song. It would be easy to snipe and take pot-shots

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for it being predictable and broad and sentimental, it is all of those

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things. It is all of those things endearingly. I spent the first half

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of the film waiting for it to turn into a Mike Leigh movie. It didn't

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do that. It is not that kind of film. It is softer like the

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Calendar girls or The Full Monty. I think life is short. This film is

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actually gentle and I think it's heartfelt. I think it takes nerve

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really to make a fill thm sweet. Redgrave is absolutely brilliant.

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We had so many tweets about it, "as funny as it is hard breaking. The

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veterans command the centre stage". You were impressed? It is all about

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the performance. Terence Stamp can carry a movie. Vanessa Redgrave is

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always Vanessa Redgrave. Gemma Arterton is very strong here.

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Fantastic to see Christopher Eccleston. I wish Christopher

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Eccleston made more movies. He is good when he does. The

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relationships between Christopher Eccleston and Terence Stamp as

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father and son feels real. All those characters who may be

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cartoonish on the page feel very well real. That means the film can

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get away with being sentimental. It has something true at the heart of

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it. What is your Film of the Year? My book of the week would be Cloud

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Atlas. I would encourage everyone to get. It is a mighty thing. All

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three of the films are, as Cloud Atlas would say, interlinked. They

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are heartfelt, Cloud Atlas gives you the most bang for your buck.

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was going to say see To The Wonder? Because it is Malick, you have to

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keep up with what he is doing. Read Cloud Atlas. The Oscars take place

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this Sunday here's a quick reminder of who is leading the race. It can

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only be the 85th annual Academy Awards. Leader of the pack is

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Steven Spielberg's Lincoln. Two- time Oscar winner, Daniel Day-Lewis

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is hoping to do the triple and become the first actor to win three

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Best Actor Academy Awards. He will need them, no-one has ever won an

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Oscar for a lead role in a Steven Spielberg movie. Some things you

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can rely on. Lincoln composer John Williams gets his 48th nomination.

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11 more and he will tie with record holder Walt Disney. Next is Life of

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Pi with 11 nominations, seven of which are in the technical

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categories. It is the fourth film in Oscar history to achieve such a

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feat. Les Miserables and Silver Linings Playbook are both on song

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with eight nominations. Les Miserables is the first musical to

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be nominated for Best Picture since Chicago in 2002. Silver Linings

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Playbook has been recognised in all four acting categories. Everybody.

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With its Best Picture nod could be a contender for the big five. The

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last film to be nominated was Reds. Argo has seven nominations.

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want to come to Hollywood and act Ben Affleck is the most prominent

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2013 Oscar snub. Django Unchained and zero DUP 13

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may both have five nominations apiece but their directors Quentin

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Tarantino and Kathryn Bigelow did not make the cut. Skyfall failed to

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get into the best picture race. Amour also has five nominations,

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including one for 85-year-old Emmanuelle Riva for best actress.

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She is up against the nine-year-old start of peace of the sudden wild.

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They are the oldest and youngest nominees ever -- Beith of the

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southern wild. There are just four days left until the big decisions

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are made. Here with us now I'd journalists

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Robbie Collins and Xan Brooks. Thank you for coming in. Is it a

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good year? It is not an obvious year, is it? It is certainly an

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exciting year if you want a close race where all the challenger

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seemed to have a glass jaw. Nobody seems to have the complete

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advantage. Lincoln was leading the race at Bath does and then coming

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up short. It seems as if Argo has the momentum -- at the BAFTA ors.

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The Michael Haneke is up for best picture, Emmanuelle Riva for Best

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actress, it has nominations in all four categories. There is an

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offensive Western from Quentin Tarantino and then Lincoln which is

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a period piece. Oh great year for diversity in the top category.

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Usually it is the either / or at this pace. Now there are seven or

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eight film swirling around. Last year, we all knew it was the Artist.

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It played at Cannes in July and everybody said that will win, job

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done. This year, there was some real momentum behind Argo at

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Toronto and then when the nominations were announced and Ben

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Affleck was snubbed for Best Director, people thought it would

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not win. Since the 1930s, only one film has won best picture without a

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Best Director which was Driving Miss Daisy. Let's just remind

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ourselves of the films which were nominated in best picture category.

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You really believe this story? Osama Bin Laden? Yes.

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If you are right, the whole world will want in on this.

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Without Richard Parker I would have Bull's eye. What is your name?

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When life reaches out at the moment like this, it is a sin if you do

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not reach back. You have to do everything you can. It you stay

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positive you have a shot at a silver lining. There are millions

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in bondage and unborn millions to come. I have got an idea. They are

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Canadian film crew for a science fiction movie. Will fly out as a

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film crew. You have a better idea than this? This is the best idea we

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have, by far. I see everything that made me.

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# life has killed a dream. Hydra in. Can I just say, massive

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generalisation, men and women, you three were sobbing. Nine-year --

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nine films in best category this year, last year there were 10. What

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is missing? The Master. It is the 10th film which should be there. To

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would you agree? A wholeheartedly, yes. It is a film made for film

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lovers and incredibly informed. It draws on the traditions of American

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cinema. The performances from Robert De Niro and Orson Welles

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found all these incredible things from film history, the fact that

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the academy has not recognise that, even though it is tricky without

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the resolution at the end which people crave, to me it is

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disappointing. I remember at the time I came out, we thought, that

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has got to be it, the opening shot alone. It is this weird thing off

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films Peking and trusting. It peaked at the Venice Film Festival.

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We said there surely it is the best film of the year. I think it was a

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bit too wild and strange for the Academy. What de we think will win?

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I have the latest odds and it looks like Argo. Affleck is not nominated

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for best director. A what looked like an open race a week ago has

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narrowed down to our cost. I think it risks being... I think it risks

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becoming a trivia question in a pub quiz in 20 years' time, what won

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the best Oscar in the year that the Life Of Pi and Lincoln came out? No

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one will get it and no one will remember what Argo was. Is it the

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best film of the year? Of course it is not. People have a great deal of

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affection towards it. Something very worthy like Lincoln, the

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costumes are great, the production design is terrific, when you are

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filling out nominations that is easy to choose. When you fell out

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your ballot paper and think which of these films are excited any in

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the cinema, Argo is a film which connected people. We should

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remember that the people who voted in the Academy only had to put in

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their ballot papers on Tuesday. All the BAFTAs and all these other

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things, will they think, we snubbed Ben Affleck, it should win? Yes, I

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think he will. Of the Academy think they are being radical in going for

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Argo, it is a bit out there, not respectable history like Lincoln.

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If they wanted to be really radical they could give the best picture to

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Zero Dark 30 odd Django Unchained. This happens all the time at the

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Oscars. Look at the year Crash won. It was interesting but not two gay

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cowboys. Ang Lee also missed out that year. There is Lincoln and

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Life Of Pi, it seems you would all be delighted with Life Of Pi?

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silly. It is strange to talk about it being underrated when it has 11

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nominations but a lot of those are in the technical category and there

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is a risk it could be shunted aside. The worst anyone says about Life Of

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Pi is it is mushy. That is not criticism I accept. It could have

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been a career killer for Ang Lee. It was the book which should not be

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adapted. I think Life Of Pi is a triumph. I completely agree. Ang

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Lee took a book which was considered none the adaptable. It

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is very cinematic. When you see it you sink -- you think it is

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designed to be on the big screen. Ang Lee's achievement is much more

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so than Ben Affleck. There is also a resistance to the Life Of Pi

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because the Academy think it is too sentimental. Is there a feeling

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that they like George Clooney, they like Ben Affleck, is there a

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feeling that he deserves this? certainly have a sentimental streak

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and they have their darlings. Clooney is also -- almost becoming

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the Jack Nicholson of his generation. He is the one the

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camera cuts to and the one the host is making jokes about and he is

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laughing along with it. One of the things about the Oscars is as well

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as shining a light on great films, it can destroy a film for me. I

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liked Argo when I saw it back in the autumn. The more we are told it

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is the Oscar favourite, you think no, surely not. You have gone off

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it! You like it before it was cool. Absolutely. It reminds me of the

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Booker Prize where traditionally the book which has won the Booker

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Prize is a book which nobody has hated. It has been a compromise and

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a fudge. I think Argo risks going down in history as the film nobody

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hated. The for going on to best director, I have to ask you what

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would you like to win? In the absence of the mast I think it

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should be Life Of Pi. Life Of Pi. would go Django Unchained. Left me

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$:/STARTFEED. If David O'Russell wins I will hear you from my house?

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I'm boycotting any conversation about Silver Linings Playbook.

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Lincoln, it should be? Yes. With Barack Obama beginning his second

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term, that feels like the completion of the process that was

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started with the events that happened in Lincoln. I think,

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perhaps, there will be a move to reward Spielberg in that sense.

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There is the sense that the Best Director Oscar is seeing as a

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runner up prize, a, "thanks for trying" prize. There are lots of

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people not on this list like Bigelow or Tarantino, are you

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disappointed by their omissions? is strange. Could you have a

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parallel list. Affleck not tkwg going on -- being on that. That is

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notable. They are saying that Argo is the Best Film of the year, the

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only thing bad about it was the idiot behind it. OK. Let us remind

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ourselves who is up for Best Actor and Best Actress. You look nice.

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How did Tommy die? It was an ordinary day. You know me, I was in

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shape to fly. Do you have a problem saying that? Things that are equal

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to the same thing are equal to each other. The only way to defend

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ourselves is to attack. Calm down. It will be OK. He is dangerous.

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# Gave me hope # When hope was gone hbg he gave me

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strength to turn it on... # There are two narratives about the

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You have a problem? I have a problem? You say more inappropriate

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things than appropriate things. and my daddy, we stayed right here.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. First things first, actor,

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Daniel Day-Lewis, done. Am I wrong or right? That is a done deal.

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can move on to Best Actress. There is a lot of love for Emmanuelle

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Riva., "Emmanuelle Riva deserves all the awards. If she doesn't win

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the whole thing is a farce." Another one here, "if Jennifer

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Lawrence doesn't win they should scrap the ceremony." It is either

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or? Jennifer Lawrence has been the frontrunner for months. She was the

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frontrunner for a very long time. Emmanuelle Riva was named the Best

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Actress at the BAFTAs. I hope Oscar voters have gone away and look at

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Amour and see the complexity and depth of that performance that

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outclasses every nominee on that list. She is second odds on, if you

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like to win. Who would you like it to go to? I would like it to go to

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her too. She has the momentum. It is the best performance of the

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bunch. It is an astonishing piece of work. She has the sentimental

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value as well of being, celebrating her 86th birthday on the night of

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the Oscars. Sh shouldn't matter. The the Academy likes a good news

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story. Shame to get her from Paris to send her all the way home.

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will be voting for Emmanuelle Riva while. Why she has picked up these

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nominations, and her could-star hasn't had a nomination anywhere. I

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find it pusleing because it was a film about a couple. Best

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Supporting, that is Hathaway. There has been support for Amy Adams.

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Hathaway they will give the Oscar for Best Musical Performance not

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Best Supporting Actress. Who is Best Actress? It could be Tommy Lee

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Jones. It could be De Niro. He is gunning for. This it has been 30

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years since his last one. Who are we putting our money on? Tommy Lee

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Jones. We are back next week. We will review Stoker, Broken City,

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Arbitrage and Caesar Must Die. Playing us out tonight, West Side

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Story our opportunity to dance. In 1962 it was nominated for 11 Oscars

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and won 10, making it the musical with the most Oscar wins. A record

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Xan Brooks and Robbie Collin join Claudia and Danny to discuss all things Oscar, ahead of Sunday's ceremony. They also review Tom Hanks in Cloud Atlas, Ben Affleck in Terence Malick's To the Wonder, plus Vanessa Redgrave and Terence Stamp in Song for Marion.


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