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On tonight's show: Growing old disgracefully.

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Lily Tomlin packs a punch in "Grandma."

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Some people should not grow beards, your face looks like an armpit!

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Brad and Angelina embrace happiness and heartbreak in "By The Sea."

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And a long time ago - in a galaxy far, far away? We look

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back to the birth of "Star Wars." Plus, keeping a sense of humour

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British movie Hector, starring Peter Mullan and Gina

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And joining us is the Independent's critic Ellen E Jones.

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Hello. Hello. Hello. But, that went well.

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Actress, stand-up comedienne and all-round super-star.

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If she were British, she'd be a Dame by now.

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Once a favourite of top-indie director Robert Altman,

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now she's winning fresh acclaim in indie comedy Grandma,

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When? When are you going to have to ask is? Now. You are asking? Yes,

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you are disturbing the customers. I am a customer, do you know what a

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customer is. A customer pays for your services so I am a customer.

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What other customers are we disturbing? Them? Ozzie and Harriet?

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Yes. Else is a lesbian feminist poet and her granddaughter shows up on

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her doorstep and her granddaughter is in a tight place, she needs

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money. I need $600, 603. For what? I am pregnant. And so Elle joins her

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on a road trip to find the money for the abortion.

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Do you think I am a shut? No, no. But I don't want you using that word

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again. It is a comedy drama which makes one

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cringe, the hardest film to do correct me, the success ratio is

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low. But at the same time, some of my favourite films like the graduate

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that. You have to take responsibility for that. Why did you

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not use a condom or for the sake of humanity, get a vasectomy! Who is

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this? She is my Grandma. In some ways, she is conventional. The grand

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daughter is making a mistake she might have made. Get out of my

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homecoming you crazy old... I liked your boyfriend, he is special.

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Nobody is able to be as aggressive. And yet as charming and funny as

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Lily. She is already pregnant. Grandma! Just saying! The character

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is gay. The character is in her 70s. There is ageism and transgender

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character played by Laverne Cox. Your Grandma helped me out a long

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time ago. That is some sort of essence of what the movie is about.

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Don't reduce people. I am assuming you went to her for money but she

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doesn't have any money either so of course you came to me. I figure

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Conservative America will not love the film! That has been borne out!

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Most of them do not see the film. There has been stupid stuff on the

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internet about it. A presidential election is coming up and the old

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Raft of Republican candidates have made political hay out of this issue

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and lies have been spread around. You need to be able to say, screw

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you sometimes. I say that. You did not say that about little creep back

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there. Screw you, Grandma! Not bad. The movie is a welcome

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change of the issues and the way it is handled and the way people

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relate. What about those can Dons I got you? We used them. You can get

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more. -- condoms. I know, you do not have to yell at me! This is not

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yelling, I will show you yelling. It is not pro-abortion, I cannot think

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of anybody who is. They are pro-choice. This young woman is in a

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dilemma and she clearly is not in a position to be a parent. Any aid it

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can seat you need to be supervised, right? -- idiot. You saying I am any

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idiot? What do you one? A kiss. I am going

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to be there because this is my granddaughter. What do you think,

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acquitted? This is a Paul Weitz movie and he made American Pie but

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this is more of an American indie, low budget feel. This is about

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abortion, two women going to get an abortion. We're watching it in the

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UK and thankfully in this country abortion is not a fraught issue and

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it takes on a different tone, it is more about the granddaughter and

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grant parent relationship. -- grandparent. In many movies, she is

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a caricature but she gets to be a character and that is interesting. I

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could just watch her and you realise it is really tight, it is succinct

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and she is so fantastic as a character that if they made a film

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just about her going shopping let alone what they have to do, I would

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watch that. Lily Tomlin is fantastic, I have been scared of her

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since All of Me in 1984 and I was 12. New cow in the best way and that

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is a condiment. She still has that, she is why a wall on legs. A 70

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something punk rocker. It works well as a buddy movie and you need two

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people and Julia Garner who plays her granddaughter is great and they

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have a great dynamic. It should not make sense as she is frail and

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serial, hop on Marks blonde curls, but she is a top cookie and that is

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one reason that the -- the film works. A lot of fantastic actors

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appear. You think, that was a day and a half of work. That did not

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cost a lot of money. Each interaction is meaningful. In this

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kind of movie, people coming in and out. Several great scenes in this

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movie, Sam Elliott is another great character to who plays an old flame

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of the character of Lily Tomlin. And Marcia Gay Harden. She is fantastic.

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It is perfect sense because Little Miss sunshine was a perfect movie

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but had unfortunate consequences like American indie movies, you get

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half a dozen random people and each has a quirk and they like a family

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and it makes no sense but the family makes sense. They even look quite

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alike. Lily Tomlin, it makes perfect sense and Marcia Gay Harden is a

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driven woman and her daughter is Julia Garner who is a slightly

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uncertain character. We needed a film about the relationship between

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that hippie generation and their children. And not the usual Grandma.

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And not just the one that has toffees and is sweet and knitting,

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but also very grumpy, she isn't a mixture. She is a smart, she is a

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rocker and she is soft and she changes. It has the American

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trappings, chapter headings in lower case. You think, could it not be

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capital letters? It does not push that too far, there is no ukelele

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and I always breathe a sigh of relief. Grandma does not need a

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ukelele. Not expensive, a contention for the wards? Lily Tomlin might be.

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A lot of good feeling for her. , cost $600,000 and the funny thing

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about awards and we are about to enter that corridor of hysteria,

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awards season, and if you make films that are not blockbusters, that is

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history were because you have to make nominations. I do not think

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that is bad in the case of Grandma, it fits the movie. Tangerine was

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another film benefiting from not having as much money. But you

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realise you have to do that if you do not get the film industry

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economy, if you do not get nominations, you make a film in a

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cover shop with no extras for half $1 million.

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Written and directed by Angelina Jolie, she stars

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with her husband, Brad Pitt, as an unhappily married couple

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trying to save their relationship in the South of France.

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Can I just say, there was only one screening of this and I could not go

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because I had to do other stuff. I have not seen it. People have been

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vile about it. In my world, she can do no wrong. With that, Danny.

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Delightful as that clip was, we need to put flesh on it. The film is

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directed by Angelina Jolie and about a pair of ridiculously good-looking

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married couple played by Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. She is a famous

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dancer and he is of course a famous writer but despite their success and

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good looks, they are not happy, the marriage is going bad. They fetch up

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in the French Riviera in the South of France in a beautiful Andy Dilip

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result. They get stuff unpacked and spend the rest of the film having

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rows, drinking gin for breakfast and having mascara running down their

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cheeks. It is very self-indulgent and in places shrivelling great goal

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but I quite like it. It is also smite and self-aware and it has

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slight whipped -- smart. It is a based around these beautiful perfect

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people stricken with Ms Rhee, even luggage is perfect and even though

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the room is perfect and Brad Pitt's slacks, they are perfect and

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Angelina Jolie's lips, they are perfect on her big and bubbly head.

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It is not big and bubbly, it is perfect. Continue as you are! That

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is a condiment. They are consumed with self loathing. Why have people

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been so mean? People are confusing a beautiful film made by a beautiful

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woman with a vanity project. The character is quite vain but it is

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not a vanity project because there is more than her showcasing her

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beauty and talent. Good ideas as well. And she is quite smart to

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focus on the beauty because if you cast Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie,

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they cannot just stand in a garage forecourt, they have to be in a

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beautiful location, it makes sense. It is tradition for the director to

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fall in love with the leading lady even if the director is the leading

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lady! What is weird is me listening to you two, I think of course I will

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see it but having read the reviews, you'd two come at it from a

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different angle. It is far too long. Seven days long? It is getting

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there! Neither of us wants this on our epitaph, I liked By The Sea. It

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is too late! There is a lot to stick up for. So many interesting ideas.

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For Angelina Jolie, she is self-aware and she knows she is one

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of the world's most sought-after actresses and she makes herself a

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peeping Tom. There is a hole in the hotel room wall and she is the one

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looking at the couple next door, that is interesting. What are my

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favourite scenes is short, it is her and him ready to go out together and

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they look in the mirror and she puts lipstick on with a cigarette hanging

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out and it is fabulous. You said vanity project but everything is a

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vanity project. We do not normally notice because it is normally a

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director's project and we do not recognise their name. Actors

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constantly, even when they do not direct, like she has, they

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constantly make vanity projects because everybody is dependent on

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that to get the finance. Writers and direct has turned into skeletons

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waiting for Ryan Gosling to say yes to their movie. Every film is a

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vanity project. Let of Angelina! -- lay-off.

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It won seven Oscars, ranks as one of the world's top

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grossing films and is, quite simply, the stuff of movie legend.

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Nothing was the same again after Star Wars.

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But we've waited more than 30 years to find out what happened

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to Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, and Hans Solo.

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On the eve of the new Star Wars release, we go back to 1977

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and Star Wars fever, first time around.

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Star Wars THEME. Make sure your seats are securely fastened. For the

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most part, like any fairy tale, it is timeless. Just making a movie

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that I thought would be enjoyable, that I wanted to make, telling a

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story I wanted to tell. Now, Star Wars is a world-famous

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brand but in 1977 it was an unknown quantity. The sci-fi B-movie

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directed by a relative newcomer starring a cast of unknowns.

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Expectations were low. My agent said there was an American making a cheap

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little budget science-fiction movie where the money was going on the

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sets and costumes and special effects. He wanted to see me for the

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part of... And she paused, a robot! Don't take that look with me! I said

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no! We thought it was a bit of a turkey. It blew everybody's mind,

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what I was doing. Not very reassuring! George's style of

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film-making was difficult, he never said anything, he never asked me to

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do a scene in a particular way, he would just say action and cut.

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Sometimes he would say terrific. Often he said nothing. I have a very

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bad feeling about this. We were several weeks behind schedule and

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the studio cut us off. We ended up with the 80% shot movie. It looked

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like the ship had sunk. Hello there. Is it true that you didn't know what

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character you were playing in Star Wars? I don't know quite what he was

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meant to be come I must admit that. Darth Vader, now that's a known I

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have not heard in a long time. -- Obi Wan. I thought oh, grams. Star

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Wars, science-fiction, not for me! We will have no more of this Obi Wan

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Kenobi gibberish. I feel something terrible has happened. The dialogue

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was pretty childish. That's the real trick, isn't it? I said to George,

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you can type this shit but not say it. And it's still true. There is a

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bit of a trick to say" it will take a few moments for it to get the

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coordinates". At the rate they are gaining? It isn't like dusting

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crops, boy! I thought, who talks like this? Do you know what he's

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talking about? Star Wars was pretty difficult to read as a script

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because a lot of the description was of special effects and it looked

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like a description of something that was impossible to create. I don't

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think George thought of them as a special effects, he wanted to make

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his movie. It took 6-8 months to get that stuff functioning. It was very

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difficult to make the schedule. It hadn't been done before. George is

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like a great builder. When he has it in his mind that going to make these

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Star Wars, you know, I'm told billions of dollars, nothing is

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going to stop him. George created his own world, his own industry in a

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way. You wonder what it's going to be in the future in terms of an

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injury, going to visit George at the ranch. A piece of junk! I hate great

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confidence that we would make it -- had great confidence. Even by the

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standards of Hollywood, a place where nothing succeeds like success,

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Star Wars is phenomenal. It is already the biggest box office hit

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in cinema history. One reason for this is that it somehow combines

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elements of the best loved themes of romantic adventure, from Arabian

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nights to the Western, science-fiction and fantasy. We did

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it! We did it! Fantastic imagination. I didn't like it when

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the man chopped off that persons arm. Why not? Because there was

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blood! I think a lot of people feel that George and Star Wars

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transformed the industry. It transformed the exhibition, allowing

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a film to be released into Morse in the Mars than anybody had put a

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movie before. People love the movie, not only for the content but what it

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represents, in their minds, ushering a new era merchandising driven

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movies. With the success of the film, the country goes Star Wars

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crazy. Star Wars pretty much created merchandising in movies. Did I

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enjoyed that? Yes. There was a shampoo where you could twist my

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head and pour liquid out of it. Yes, the Force can be with you at

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breakfast! The problem is, you make a film, people take it, especially

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if you are successful, and they use it however they need to. Many people

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used it emotionally and intellectually and some people used

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it, surely. But that was a long time ago, and

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far, far away. Now a new generation of fans will get to feel the Force

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once more. Camera, action! When Star Wars the Force Awakens hits in a

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Mars next week. -- hits cinemas. These characters come and they know

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it is in a galaxy far away, a journey that people can relate to. I

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have been a Star Wars fan as an adult and a child. Oh, my gosh.

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That's something that George Lucas started and we are definitely

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carrying it on. He has signed his action figure! Ciabatta! We are

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home. -- Chewbacca. It is the characters that people love, a world

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we want to go back to immediately. We are going back to the stories

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that people feel intensely about. And we'll be reviewing "Star Wars:

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The Force Awakens" next week. Next, Hector, starring Peter Mullan

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as a homeless man in search Early Christmas present coming up.

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Lovely Hazel, looking after my bank. What else have I got? For you, for

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being such a lovely dog. And I almost forgot, Lord Douglas, for

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being a clever old bastard. You are a locking MAC Gold mind reader.

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He has been homeless for 15-20 years and he has embarked on an annual

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pilgrimage to a homeless shelter in London. It is a kind of Odyssey, you

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know. Who he meets on his journey and what he encounters on the

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journey. Just passing through? Have you got a girlfriend? A few years

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ago I did some volunteering work for Christmas and I met some

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extraordinary people with amazing stories, including a particular man

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who travelled and came to stay in the shelter. I came to realise that

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it was a story. Hey, you! Nearly gave me a heart attack! We were on

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location in the middle of the Scottish winter, it was never going

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to be easy. It was cold but you know, you are an actor. You wear

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jumpers. It's not working down a mine. It isn't sleeping rough on the

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streets certainly. Private contractor for the council. Driving

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one of those trucks for the recycling. RU a bin man? Lock off!

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Recycling, doing my bit for the planet. Some people, Hector being

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one of them, you could argue that he has chosen this particular way to

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live. When somebody has a mental breakdown and cannot face the

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responsibility of keeping a job, I for one cannot condemn that person

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for making the choice. Nobody willingly wants to sleep on the

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street. Slow down, OK? I can't, the brakes have gone. It is sometimes a

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hard watch. Introducing a bit of humour, it is true to life but it

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makes the difficult things easier to watch. Trying to change the subject?

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Yeah. Let's go. You are my family now, that's the way it is. Want my

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cracker? Danny? One of the things I liked about Hector, it reminds us

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that Peter Mullan is more than a monster. He was great previously but

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he was also a bully, he was very good in it. He keeps being cast in

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those roles but this is a reminder that it wasn't always like that, it

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doesn't have to be that Peter Mullan arrives and almost the Jaws music

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arrives. In 1842 when he made my name is Joe with Ken Loach, it was a

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different Peter Mullan. There was the gentleness and these and see, so

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it's nice to be reacquainted with that. Yes, he has the twinkle in his

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eye. I like the fact that it shows as a different side to the British

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motorway that we don't normally see. A lot of films about American roads,

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very romantic but you don't often see a nice roundabout, nicely shot!

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I found it incredibly... It may be the perfect Christmas movie because

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it feels like it's about kindness and I thought I would like to take

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my 12-year-old to that. That's a better way to judge it rather than a

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Peter Mullan movie rather than a social realist movie. It isn't

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really about homelessness, it is about a homeless guy and lots of

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nice things happen to him so it is a bit schmaltzy if you are wanting

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gritty social reality. Difficult to make films about goodness and so on.

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A previous firm has done the same thing, making drama out of goodness

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and decency, really tricky stuff. We mentioned in Granma, we talked about

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how lovely it was, brilliant people popped up and the same thing happens

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here, Keith Allen, and so on, they may have only worked for two days

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but they are strong. Yeah, if you watch a lot of telly, there are many

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good TV actors, you have the hostel worker who everybody is the spirit

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of Christmas. We are running out of time. Film of the week? I'm going

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with By The Sea. Are you? The only person! I'm going with by the CX is

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Mac but I'm also talking about Reflecting Skin which has come out

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on DVD and Blu-ray, people should see it.

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Playing us out tonight is the late, great Nora Ephron's rom-com classic

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When Harry Met Sally, which is re-released

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Most women at one time or another have faked it. Well they haven't

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with me. How do you know? Because I do. Right. I forgot. You are a man.

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What does that mean? Nothing, all men are sure that it does not happen

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to them and most women have done it. You don't think I can tell the

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difference? No. Get out of here. MOANS SOFTLY. Are you OK? Oh, God.

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Oh, God! Ooh! Oh, God! Oh, yeah, right there! MOANS WILDLY. Oh, God,

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yes, yes! Yes, yes! Sir! Oh, yes! Yes, yes! Yes, yes, yes,

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yes! Oh, oh! Oh, God. Ooh...

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