04/05/2016 The One Show

Halo and welcome to The One Show, with Alex Jones.

And halo to you too, Matt Baker!

Tonight, in honour of one of our guests we are handing out the halos.

We're giving one to a singer with a heavenly voice.

It's Lianne La Havas, who'll be chatting and singing live

She will be talking about her friend Prince.

of the smallest and most intricate art you'll ever see.

In fact, some of it is so small you can only view it

All that to come - plus elephants, Einstein

But, Matt - the guest who has inspired all

this halo business - where is he?

Don't worry, Al - he's on his way and is even giving a lift

In the driving seat - it's the suave, sophisticated star

of the classic 70s series Return of the Saint.

And with him, the documentary maker who has met both saints and sinners

in his quest to bring us the best stories from around the globe.

Welcome, chaps. Welcome to the One Show. Have a seat. There you are.

You were just driving in, you didn't realise that we have actually given

notes and halos already this evening. You can see yours, it is

behind you. You are wearing it beautifully. We might leave that on

for the whole show. We Robert Lee won't. I think somebody's arm will

get sore! You came in the original car from Return of the Saint. You

have had problems with it this afternoon? My friend Michael

discovered it in a barn in the Shetland Islands and has done a

complete restoration. He said he drove it too fast and has done

something terrible to it so it is no longer working, but it will again.

Thy goodness we have a wonderful special effect steam, you would

never have known! -- thank goodness we have a wonderful special effects

team. There you go! Well done! You were a fan of the Saint? Eight is

wonderful, my 70s childhood dream has been fulfilled. Now you will

tell me that you were three! Five! We want you to nominate your own

personal saints tonight. Someone who has gone

above and beyond to help Send in your photos -

tell us why they're a saint and we'll hand out some

more halos later. We have got tonnes of them! You

might well be one of those heading to the ballot box tomorrow to vote

in a wealth of elections all over the UK. On the 23rd of June, no

doubt you will be back to vote in the EU referendum. The subject has

split opinion, in some cases, even within families.

Brothers Nigel and Ian Baxter from Nottingham both followed their

father into the freight industry and set up firms just across the road

from each other. For the past 21 years, the siblings have been united

in their approach to business. But now? For the first time, they

are butting heads. It is all over the EU referendum and weather we

should Leave or Remain. Who better to sorted this family

feud? Me, of course! -- to sort out. We need your assistance. That is a

big 10/4, what is your 20? I am on my way, put your pedal to the metal!

I am doing it, man! Looks like we have a convoy!

The brothers have taken over their local truckstop cafe today. They

will both try to persuade passing drivers to vote their way in the

referendum. I have come along to make sure things do not get messy.

Why do you want to stay in? Fundamentally, the EU is a single

free market of 500 million people, hugely important for trade. If we

Leave, trade will be more difficult and uncertain, it will affect jobs

and investment. Why do you want is to get out? We need to take back

sovereignty of the UK Government, deal with the reams of legislation

that have affected us. We will have the opportunity to trade properly

with the rest of the world, take agreements and bring back control to

the UK. The passionate pie dish out opposing views to the diners. A key

topic for both its free trade in the single market. Ian's freight company

manages the movement of goods across the EU. The process of exporting

would be made more difficult if we leave. There would be customs

clearance, there may be tariffs, documentation. That is difficult for

British companies, especially small businesses. But that he would still

want to trade with us, we are a massive customer for their goods? --

but the EU would? But if it is easier for a car manufacturer to

locate it is business inside the single market rather than outside,

in the future I think that is the choice they will make. Big Brother

Nigel's truck repair and servicing business deals with manufacturers in

France, but he believes that trading will not be affected if we've vote

Leave. I can't imagine a situation where we can continue to have a

sensible trading well Asian ship. It is in that interest to do an

arrangement with us. They are selling is virtually double what we

export. Why is it better to be Out? We can open up trading agreements to

the rest of the world, we have been hamstrung by the EU, which has

failed in many cases to make trading agreements. The brothers have

failed in many cases to make trading hour to impress, to which side of

the table to these people sit on? We should stay on, safety in numbers,

if you pull out you are on your own. Out. I could probably work a few

more hours each week instead of Europe telling me I can only drive

for nine hours of the day. I am. Anyon, it

for nine hours of the day. I am. anyway. I think we should come out,

people will not be able to anyway. I think we should come out,

It seems the drivers are as divided as the brothers. Can Ian and Nigel

see eye to eye on any of the issues surrounding the EU?

see eye to eye on any of the issues membership of the EU is good value

for money? Certainly not, we sent ?350 million a week to Brussels and

we get roughly half of that back, we could have much better distribution

of that money while saving ourselves. At Norway and Switzerland

paid more in per capita than the UK does for full membership when they

only have partial. They don't get a say over the rules. The cost is out

of control, it is escalating, if we vote to Remain we can look forward

to further escalation. We will have to contribute, even if we Leave, as

part of negotiations around trade, so we will enter with a similar

bill. With the diner drivers as split as the brothers on which

bill. With the diner drivers as the referendum should go on June 23,

bill. With the diner drivers as I reckon there was only

bill. With the diner drivers as settle this. A good, armed -- good,

old-fashioned arm wrestle! It is too host to call.

-- too close. They are still going. You have to sort this out by the

23rd of June, but we will leave you to it for now! Competitive.

Epicentre of the studio is our very own Mr Referendum, Chris Mason. --

at the centre of the studio. A month or so ago you

at the centre of the studio. A month referendum out of it, how will you

display your impartiality this evening? Starting with the socks, on

the left but we have a union flag, strict BBC impartiality, so on the

other is an EU flag. Then there is mai tai, 12 stars, normally on the

EU flag, so we've have five hole once in two halves, six. But the new

addition to the wardrobe, no halo for me, but a bowler hat. Strict BBC

impartiality, the paint has just about dried! ABI should wear this on

the news as well! We look forward to the next edition. -- maybe I should

wear this. How do you think the brothers put forward their

arguments? They were quite strong? Bye-bye strongly held views, it is

an insight into the conversations people are having -- really strongly

held views, it is an insight into the conversations people are having

when they are thinking about it. I cannot work out whether to keep this

on or take it off. I believe it for now. Part of it is the business

around facts. Most people come to me and say what I want is facts, juicy,

hard facts to make up my mind. Then you go the website of the two

campaigns, in the bin campaign it says 3 million jobs are connected

with trade with the EU. That could be quite a powerful argument. Then

in the Out campaign they say, if we leave, we will be able to trade, it

is fine. Neither of those are facts, they are both predictions. Nobody

has ever left the EU before, it is changing hugely if we stayed in, so

it is guessing. So are you saying go with your heart and guts? That will

be a big part. All the statistics are being flung at as in leaflets

through the door and people like me droning on in the news, from the

campaigns, more and more, we will see the heart. The In campaign sake

we would leave Europe, as if the EU would start drifting into the

Atlantic, we would still be in Europe but outside of the club. The

Out site say that we are a proud, independent nation and we are

shackled to this beast called the EU and we can get rid of it. Both of

those appeals to our hearts, people trying to get us to think about who

we are as a country rather than statistical stuff which can feel

scrappy and, let's whisper it, a goal nil-nil drawl. -- a dull,

nil-nil. Nobody has ever left the EU, so how would the changes come

about? Nobody has ever left, it is only expanded, so you have all these

facts, in inverted commas, which are just predictions. If we vote to

Leave, the next morning we will wake up and we will still be In, so it

takes a while. This is a prediction. Some people say it takes ten years,

some people say two. Nobody is certain because it has never

happened. All sorts of questions would be asked if we were to Leave.

But others say it is a massive decision to stay in, because the

club is changing beyond all recognition. The danger is those

that do not vote, some people are passionate about In and Out, and the

floaters. When was the last time you ever saw a demonstration where

people were saying, what do we want? The same! When do we wanted? Now!

Some would argue that it is not the same to stay in, that some people on

the In campaign are slightly fearful that very few people are passionate

about the EU. Even if you're going to vote to stay in, people do not go

round kissing their ties, they do not get that passionate. But if you

are keen to Leave you would probably really get out there. It is another

factor. We will see you again soon, thank you. I will keep working on

the wardrobe, thank you for having me. No facts, just links, on the

website to help you make up your mind on the EU vote.

Louis, we are used to seeing you uncover lots of unusual stories from

around the globe, but we think that we have found one that will be new

to you. Here is the story of a young lady called Sheila who has packed

her trunk and said goodbye to Belfast zoo. Over to Jennie Browne.

On the night of the 7th of April 1941, a squadron of Luftwaffe

bombers flew across the lough behind me to bring

One of the most bombed parts of the city was North Belfast,

At the time it was home to a collection of wild

and potentially dangerous animals and locals worried what might happen

One of the zoo's curators, Alan Cairns, explains.

Were people afraid that all the animals would get loose

The Ministry of Public Security decided a bomb could hit the zoo

and many of the dangerous animals would escape.

An order was given by the ministry for 33 animals to be put to sleep,

to be shot, and that included wolves and polar bears.

But one of the zookeepers, Denise Austin, pleaded for the life

There was such a strong bond between Sheila the baby elephant...

And Denise made the case at the time that this was just a baby

elephant, it wasn't going to cause any problems.

Sheila was spared the cull but Denise was still concerned

about leaving her alone at night at the zoo amidst the bombing.

So every evening, unbeknownst to her employers, she would secretly

lead Sheila out of the zoo at Cave Hill, down the city streets,

This extraordinary photograph shows Sheila here in her backyard in North

I am hoping that Denise's cousin, David Ramsay, can answer a question

Where exactly do you keep an elephant at your house?

Denise's house, there was a large coach house to one side of it

and Denise just found it convenient to park Sheila in that

Initially, I think when the first time the elephant was seen outside

of the zoo, they were a bit startled.

And then they thought, well, that is Denise.

And over a period of time, when the elephant was coming out

of the zoo every night, they got quite used to it.

In fact, some of the small children would have come along

and Denise would have set them on the elephant's shoulders.

Denise's daily elephant smuggling went well for three months.

But then Sheila decided to chase after a neighbourhood dog.

Denise thought she had got away with it.

All seemed to be well, except a few hours later,

some of the householders came up to the head keeper and asked

what he was going to do about repairing their fences!

The zoo changed the locks to Sheila's enclosure,

putting an end to her extracurricular day trips.

But the ever-faithful Denise visited the elephant every night

during the bombing that spring to comfort her.

And did you ever get to meet Sheila?

As a small boy, it was one of the treats for me to be taken up

to the zoo and then Denise would have called Sheila and Sheila

would have spun round very quickly, put her trunk out and then proceeded

to hoover Denise all over, just to check it was her.

That just shows you that elephants never forget.

Sheila saw out her days at Belfast Zoo and lived

Today, the zoo is home to three beautiful Asian elephants who live

It is kind of a retirement home for older elephants

And this caring attitude is a legacy of Denise and the Belfast Blitz.

STUDIO: What a lovely story. You don't often deal with an elephant in

the garden, Louis, but often there is an elephant in the room in your

documentaries. Slightly clunky. How do you approach them? There is

always an elephant in the room. There is always something, the

reason I'm there, basically. It is either some weird form of behaviour

that on the face of it needs explanation, why someone chooses to

do this with job, or a source of trauma, sensitive question,

do this with job, or a source of is a case of being polite, really.

do this with job, or a source of About approaching it sensitively and

more often than not, people About approaching it sensitively and

talk about whatever it is, the big secret, the trauma in their life. It

is gaining their trust and going in there in a way in which they are

happy to talk. These documentaries are a great example, one of them has

gone out, extreme drinking, which I found, you are in a strange

situation where you are doing these strange and heartfelt interviews,

interviewing people heavily under the influence of alcohol. Did you

find that extraordinary, that situation? I knew what I was going

into when I started but what was different, we had a young man called

Joe and in a sober state he was very well spoken and very nice and

intelligent, but when he had been drinking he was just a mess,

basically. For various reasons he did not have the support network

around him, friends and family had felt they needed to keep their

distance when he was drinking and it fell on my shoulders to do some of

that emotional stuff. You could see that, you became like a father

figure to him. This character Joe really got under people's skins,

Ian, because his mother was also a alcoholic, how do you gain their

trust but also keep a distance because you could tell that you

really felt for joy when you wanted to look after him a bit more than

just making the documentary -- for Joe. I don't know if his mother was

an alcoholic, actually, but there was drinking in there somewhere. It

is about spending time with people, showing them it is more than just

making the programme, that there is a juicy of care, that we spend time

after the show making sure that everything goes

after the show making sure that duty of care. My director was

superb, they make sure they kept in touch with Joe and they showed him

the show, but emotionally it is not always easy. In the next documentary

you deal with brain injuries. A very different and difficult subject.

What did you find out yourself from making that documentary? I've always

been fascinated by psychology and people whose brains work in

different ways. What I discovered, with brain injury, not always but

often, there are changes which go along with it, personality changes,

and some of those are challenging for the person in question and he's

or her family, they can be in polls of Ms, disinhibition. --

impulsiveness. If you have got a husband or partner or kids, they are

having to adapt and fit around that, as well. You have brought an

exclusive clip and we can have a look at you are meeting Amanda and

here she is with her husband after she has moved back into the family

home. At the risk of asking an intrusive question, you have been

together 22 years, were you happy together? Yes. We were a good team.

Best buddies. It was good. It still is good, just different, for the

time being. We will get there. LAUGHTER

That is the plan. Yeah. Stop tapping. I know, drumming,

constantly. Stop it. STUDIO: Gosh. Lovely couple, actually. Such raw

material, but clearly there are complex, but there is also a lot of

love and it is about finding the balance in the story. You must have

had psychologists with you at certain times, because you did not

want to go too deep. We did much of it under the umbrella of a group

called the brain injury rehabilitation trust and actually it

is brain injury week this week and it is a good time to talk about

these subjects. We made sure that they were involved and we took their

advice. Your new documentary, A Different Brain, is on BBC Two at

nine o'clock on the 15th of May. Which photos, if any, do you share

online? Do you take a picture of your dinner and then post it for

everyone? Maybe you feel your timeline with little fluffy kittens.

Maybe like Joan Collins, posting pictures of her shoes and then her

puddles. Outside her house. Chances and you do not post pictures of

piles of rubbish, but one man who wants to do just that is now finding

himself in a battle with the social media giant. It is all over a four

letter word. Tommy Sandhu explains. Telegram. For me? There is a man in

Kent who has created an app called littergram, but he has been

contacted by the noise of Facebook who own Instagram because they would

like to change the company's name -- contacted by the lawyers. Danny

Lucas, the littergram man. How does it work? It is free to download. You

take a picture of litter and it knows exactly where you are, you

share it and instantly goes to a receiving end for the local

authority. They can message you back straightaway to say they will deal

with it or they can say when they will deal with it and then notify it

is done. We got a little traction towards the end of last year and we

got the first UK Council on board and we wanted to protect our logo.

When we did that, the lawyers from Facebook said you cannot use the

word gram. Come on, Facebook, it is time you smelt up and -- woke up and

smell the instant coffee. Before there were any filters and hashtags,

the word gram was used for hundred A.D. In the dark ages, that is like

1600 years before Instagram was even thought of. The word gram is old.

Old like grandma. No more kissagram is, no more stripper grams. The same

applies for you. Celebrities give back your Grammys. No more, sorry.

Nothing is sacred. Mr parallelogram is now known as Mr rectangle. This

means no more gramophones, diagrams, TV programmes, cardio grams,

sonogram, mammogram, and potentially no more littergram. I have a copy of

the letter. It says, "Our client appreciates the objectives behind

littergram but they say using the name is not except a ball and they

are giving you a few months to stop using the term gram -- is not accept

double. You're not a threat to Instagram, that is celebrities

taking selfies. Exactly. It is everyone's right to use social

media? We are only using it as a means of getting the attention of

the local authorities. We reached out to the team at Facebook and they

gave us this comment. What would you like to see happen? I

would like to see Facebook almost support what we are doing morally

and said this is a great cause, and with their blessing, littergram can

continue. You want to keep the gram? Yes. We hope it gets resolved, one

way or another very soon. Ian, we can now talk about your book, your

memoirs, Once A Saint. You took over from Roger Moore. As the wonderful

Simon Templar. How did this come about, how did you get the part? My

agent called me one day and said a man would like to have lunch with

me, this was in the early 70s, and he said he bridges to the Saint with

Roger Moore -- he produced. He said he thought I would make a good one,

which was very nice of him. His wife had seen me in upstairs downstairs.

She fancied you. The character was very weedy, asexual. I wondered how

she would make a connection between that character and the Saint, and

the answer is because I looked a little bit like Roger Moore, and

that is why I got the part. I never did an audition, I just walked

straight into it, it could not have been any easier. We can have a look

at you in full Saint mode. Look out! Are you all right? Yes,

thank you. Mr? Simon Templar. APPLAUSE

We have enjoyed watching that this afternoon. Are you surprised at how

attitudes have changed since then? It is full of girls in bikinis,

draped all over you. Sorry, attitudes have changed? What is

wrong with girls in bikinis? Nothing. You are quite right, it has

changed completely, and for the better, probably. Maybe less fun, a

bit drier, but I don't thing in those days, feelings were very

bruised and hurt and it is good that we have stopped it.

You had fun with the reunion with the car, but there must have been so

many pros and cons to playing the Saint. One of the prose was that she

became a household name instantly. You could get a good table in a

crowded restaurant instantly, but there was not much else. You two are

very famous and you have probably made a lot of money, but I did not

make money. It was very poorly paid. There were no foreign sales or

residuals. The last money I saw from the Saint was a 1979. Your agent

must have been rubbish, they did not negotiate that very well!

LAUGHTER Either that or maybe I was too keen

to take the part and they said, there is a sucker, here! Always

pretend you are not keen! That was the sad thing. It was difficult

being very famous or not having much money. Was it difficult for you to

move on? It was, ibid. For a while, I did not really work on English

television because they said, you are the Saint. I have been

television because they said, you America for the past 26 years. The

difference between America for the past 26 years. The

English is that if they make you famous they think you are worth

money and they will famous they think you are worth

something else and exploit you. At that time in England, I hate Word

typecasting because it that time in England, I hate Word

really mean anything, but it meant that time in England, I hate Word

that they would say, we can't use you, you are the Saint, that was

sad. I did not do a lot after that. That lots of other

stories in the book. You did lots of after that. That lots of other

other television and theatre. But we were really confused, because this

is on the cover. That is me in a play. Here is the thing about the

cover of an autobiography, they always look the same, a

cover of an autobiography, they black-and-white photograph of the

person looking glamorous. I my publisher, I want a photograph

that people will go, what the my publisher, I want a photograph

is that? We did! If it is on the table with lots of other

autobiographies, I want mine to be the one they up. Radiant. Ian's

memoir, Once a Saint, is out tomorrow. Get ready to squint, soon

we will be hearing at sculptures so tiny they are not visible to the

naked eye. The first, Cerys Matthews travels to

Liverpool to meet twins who specialise in another type of

miniature art that requires the patience of a saint.

For over 30 years, the Singh twins have been creating intricate art

works using the tradition of Indian miniature painting. An ancient tech

recombining very fine brush work with vibrant colour to create images

of exquisite detail. And although work is created here in a shed

studio in their family home, off this leafy street in Liverpool.

Hello. Nice to meet you. Lovely to meet you. I have been calling you

the Singh twins, it is not being rude, that is how you like to be

referred to? Yes, it very much reflect the fact that we have always

worked together and we never have individual ownership of any work.

Icon from a bedtime when we have not been scribbling, painting or drawing

on walls or books when we were very small. -- I can't remember a time.

Ernst is covering a shared love of miniature art as teenagers, they

have painted together every day, often working for hours on the same

tiny piece. It can take 50 hours to 1000 hours. You often have to hold

your breath to make sure the lines are straight. You are siblings, do

you never disagree? I don't think we would be normal if you did not

argue, that we are very much in chewed with each other. Indian

miniature paintings have appeared in manuscript since the 14th century,

where they were used to decorate religious texts and mythological

epics. By the 18th-century they were India's dominant art form. The

twins' worker updates the tradition to reflect modern tradition. Their

Indian miniature is included Princess Diana, the beckons and even

Liverpool footballers. -- Liverpool football supporters. Their work is

owned by galleries worldwide and they were recently awarded an MBE by

the Queen. They are bravely allowing me to put the finishing touches to a

brand-new painting we are creating for a future Liverpool gallery

exhibition. You can do a small bit of the top of this figure. You see

the flowers on her top, we have left a few of them incomplete. That is

it. You are there. This is so exquisite. It is fine. No, I am

doing rubbish. That was absolutely terrifying. Luckily for me, this is

just one part of this many layered artwork, inspired by the twins'

personal fascination with the history of the Indigo dyed trade

between India and Britain. Hidden in the painting are a multitude of

objects and art from local Devoto museums. Her husband is the one who

put a monopoly on indigo in India at that time. She is associated with

the city where the Taj Mahal is. It was built as a mausoleum. Where does

Queen Elizabeth come in? She ran a commission for the English merchants

to trade with India, she is woven into the carpet design at the bottom

of the painting. Quite often you incorporate your home city of

Liverpool into your work, and we have a pair of Liverpool genes.

Flemings was the first company to manufacture denim in the Liverpool

area. Denim originates in India. Fascinating, we can't look at denim

in the same way. All of these objects can together in the final

artwork, for which the twins are mixing tradition with technology is

gunning in each individual miniature painting to create a digital

masterpiece. -- by scanning in. We have scanned it in and we are

dragging it across to the final image, where we put in the final

piece of the jigsaw. Absolutely stunning. I love how your eye is

just drawn to this indigo blue world. It is all the more beautiful

knowing the amount of work at the weeks of preparation that have gone

into it. The Singh twins' paintings might be miniature, but their

artistic ambition, combining Indian history and modern day Britain, is

truly giant. The Singh twins, making beautiful

art. We have another miniature artist with us, John Good. Welcome.

You have a steady hand! I hope so. This is mesmerising. When and why

did you decide to start drawing so intricately? This is all pencil,

coloured and lead pencil? I have always painted, but they were mostly

on a large scale. My style of painting has always been to have

detail. A number of years ago, when I saw the Royal miniature Society

asking artists to submit work for the exhibition, I thought that it

sounds like me when I looked at the work that was on offer in the

exhibition. Trying to get detail into a small area, that appeal to

me. There is an amazing amount of detail. How long would it take to

complete one of these and how wrong is it to go wrong? For me, they

generally take longer than a big painting because of the effort

involved in it. It can take, for one of these, 30 or 40 hours, maybe.

Yes, things can go wrong. With painting, it is not too bad, but

with pencil work you really do not have a second chance, if you make a

mistake it is too hard to rub out. When we rehearsed this section you

were telling me that you sharpen your pencil with sandpaper? That's

right, literally a couple of lines at a time, re-sounding. The irony is

that the smaller it is, the more you look at it. From miniature art to

microscopic arts, made by MBE Willard Wigan. Willard, thank you.

Remarkable. You are doing art in the eye of a needle? Correct. This blew

our minds this afternoon. I can't get my head around this. You are

looking at a standard sewing needle. Show it to the camera, if you would?

There is a standard sewing needle. In the eye of the needle, you will

see William Shakespeare. Now! Yes. Look at that.

With the words to see or not to see? How do you go about creating

something like this? What is he made of and what tools do you use? This

type of work requires excessive skill. You have to have this

obsessive type of skill. It is almost like trying to put a pin

through a bubble, I had to train my heart rate to do it. I work at

night. It is something I have done since I was five, it started when I

used to build houses as a kid. -- houses for an is as a kid. A dog

destroyed the ads' nests, so I felt sorry for the ants and I started

making houses and furniture for them. My mother told me that if I

went smaller, my name would get bigger. That is what I have done. I

have done the smallest man made sculptures in the world, handmade.

What tools do you use? As you can see, the tools are made

individually. There is a little hook, a blade, they are individually

made. It is not the type of thing you can make easily, the tools

themselves can be a work of art. It is a punishing process. As you work

on it you are not enjoying it, but you enjoy it when you finish. It is

the slowing up the heart beat and making sure you do not make a

mistake, if you do, it is all over. You have inhaled your art before?

Yes, I have. He would be devastated! I was working on the Alice in

Wonderland story and I inhaled Alice. I managed to make another

Alice which was better than the one I inhaled. That was the right wrong

thing, it was a lot better. It is utterly mesmerising to look at. This

one here is my brother, I brought him down to size a little bit. Such

lovely detail, thank you so much. One more for luck. This is a

pinhead, incredible. I have made our house. And a forest.

Look that bad. APPLAUSE

. Thank you, we'll art. -- look at that. You can see John 's work, and

will's work is being exhibited at the Central Library of Manchester.

Here is Esther with another dilemma. Dear Esther, my ex-husband sent me a

photo of this together on a beach from a holiday we went on in happier

times. But we have been divorced four years. Is this a good thing of

a bad thing? Should I just ignore it? We will get advice from the

people of Portsmouth. She should just ignore rich. Or tell

him to stop sending her those kind of pictures. I would probably reply

him to stop sending her those kind with a nice message and hope that

they are OK. I think I would just walk away. Throw it in the bin. The

God I would evaluate it, see what the problem is, see if it is

solvable. Do you want to have problems or want to be in love? I

would rather be in love. He is adorable, but he has not grasped the

point, has he? If he is doing bad, he's not worth bothering about. Just

getting on with your life and enjoying it. Maybe give it another

go and relive the holiday. What do you think? I agree, because I am

going along with the wife. Have you no mind of your run? I just agree

and do my own thing. Did you know he was doing that?

LAUGHTER was doing that?

She does now. Why have you sent this photograph,

how would you explain yourself? I am trying to make a jealous, show her

how much of a good time I am without her. Oh, the photo is with her?

how much of a good time I am without is getting there! Aston we split up,

you send that to me. May be a reminder to say how much I still

love her. He is sweet. I know how you would respond. You would go

crazy? I would rip it up and sent it you would respond. You would go

back to him. I just ripped everything up and put it in the bin.

Thrown anything out of the window? Plenty of times, lumps and all

sorts. Lumps. He is reaching out to her, he should probably get back

into her chair and CSA could spark at the old flame. You are much nicer

about this than the women I have spoken to. They are all tough. You

could say I am a romantic at heart. She should not be absurd. She can

either take that as a sign from him, or she can just think, actually, I

will not think anything of it, I will just think about that every

time we hadn't forget about it -- she should not be upset. He must

want her back. Sending a reminder of what you are missing. I suppose it

depends why they split up. If he did something wrong, just ignore it

because he is not worth the time of day. Here's something I never knew,

women are much tougher than men. Funny, that. There you are, I have

only been around for 75 years and I had no idea!

STUDIO: That is a dilemma, it depends on the exes, I suppose. You

probably have more. LAUGHTER I'm just saying it! If you have a

dilemma and you would like to take to the streets of Britain, get in

touch through the usual ways, and we will get Esther Rantzen on the case.

Sorry, I've lost my mind, I feel very bad. We can now talk to Lianne

La Havas. You are a guest on Coldplay's world tour, very

exciting. How is that? Amazing. It has been so... I've never played in

stadiums before, and it is absolutely amazing. We got back from

Latin America. I'd never been there. I'd never played music there before,

it was unbelievable. We have shots of you in Mexico. You have this

incredibly soulful and relaxing worldly voice, where does that come

from? I don't know. Your dad is Greek. Yes, my parents parents were

from Greece and Jamaica. Grease on my father's side and Jamaica on my

mother's side -- Greece. And they made me! I like to think my style

and music is very eclectic and I think I owe that to my parents and

grandparents, for the eclectic taste. Prince was very impressed

with your style, and you worked with him and you became friends, how did

that come about? He basically phoned me. Out of the blue. He said, I,

this is Prince? Yes. He had seen you somewhere? I think he heard my music

when I released my first EP in 2011. One day I got a message from my

management saying that Prince would like to have a phone call with me,

we did not know when it would happen. I just had to have my phone

on me. How did you feel at that point when it was him on the other

end? Completely ridiculous. The most surreal phone call I've ever had. It

gets weirder, he ended up in your flat, performing. Right at the

beginning was the phone call, and after we spoke, we stayed in touch

ever since. We became friends. He basically e-mailed me one day and

said, I've got this idea and I want to do a press conference in your

living room. What did you said your flatmate? LAUGHTER

I said, so, Prince is coming round tonight. It was just amazing. Any

time that I spent with him was amazing. He had his way of making it

feel like it was your birthday or the time. We are very sorry you have

lost a dear friend. You must be very jealous, you are a big fan? It would

have been amazing, what was he like? Was he quite normal? He seems so

otherworldly. He was otherworldly and he seems to maintain that even

when we just hanging out. -- he seemed. He was absolutely lovely.

Where was your flat? I'm trying to visualise it. It was a terraced

house and it was in Leighton. -- Leyton. Did you make him tea or

coffee? We made him build a's T. -- builders do. You will be back in the

UK, performing? We will be back on the road from the 24th of May.

Lovely. Lianne will be performing for us shortly. Albert Einstein

pointed out in 1905 that time is relative. It is so true. If you are

ever struggling to understand the theory of relativity we have one

scientist with crazy white hair to explain the theories of another. We

are all familiar with the regular tick and talk of a clock, as it

measures out time. But what if time was not regular? Suppose it could go

faster or slower. What sort of world would that be? The idea that time

can speed up and slow down came out of the most important science idea

of the 20th century, the theory of relativity, invented by the great

Albert Einstein. I will explain it using a tennis ball, torch and a

train. I'm throwing this ball around ten mph and the ball is travelling

at that speed. Right? Not so, says Einstein. Imagine there is somebody

watching from outside the train. Here comes the train. I told the

driver to go at ten mph. I'm looking for some bloke playing catch. There

he is. Right. The ball went past me at 20 mph and that makes sense,

because the speed of the ball was ten mph plus the speed of the train

itself. For me, on the platform, the ball was moving at 20 miles an hour.

But for me on the train, the ball is travelling at ten miles an hour and

that is relativity. The ball does not have just one speed, only a

speed relative to where you measure it from. But now things get really

weird. Einstein was interested in the speed of light, is mathematical

calculation is leading to a startling conclusion. The speed of

light is always the same, no matter where you measure it. Let me show

you why this is weird. This time I have got a beam of light. The speed

of light measured on this train is about 186,000 miles a second, what

happens if I shine a light out of the window, though? You might think

that it would be the same as with a tennis ball, the speed of light plus

the speed of the train. But if you measure the speed of the light beam

from the platform it is exactly the same speed as the light beam on the

train. No matter how fast the train goes, the speed of light is always

constant. Cup of tea, please. Light is constant and speed is relative,

but what about time? Einstein proved that time, just like speed, was

relative, anchored speed up and slow down depending on how fast you were

travelling -- and code. This meant a clock on a fast moving train runs

very slightly slower than the one left behind at the station. This is

the National physical laboratory in Teddington, their atomic clocks are

some of the most accurate in the world, accurate to one second in 150

million years. With clocks this accurate, Einstein's weird ideas

about time can be tested. In 1971. The Joseph from Saint Louis but

three seats on an aeroplane, one for him and two from Mr Clarke, Mr

Clarke was an atomic clock and they also left an identical clock at

home. Mr clock food wise around the world, East first of all like this,

and then all the way West bash flew twice around the world. They then

compared the clocks and the times were different. It was only a

minuscule difference, but they exactly matched Einstein's

predictions. Einstein's genius was to take a simple idea and to run

with it, and it took him some strange places. But he changed the

way we think about time for ever. STUDIO: Thank you. We have time for

a few of the saints. This is Margaret, a real-life saint, that is

because she spends her time caring for the community young and old.

Sally sent this photo of her bone marrow donor. He saved her life

seven years ago. Give him a halo. And this was sent in by her husband

Matt, she has been looking after him because he has man flu.

We'll be back tomorrow night with comedian Susan Calman.

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