04/05/2017 The One Show

Evening all. Welcome to The One Show with Angela Scanlon. And Matt Baker.

Joining us tonight an actor born and bred in the East End and who started

in classicing like Nil By Mouth and Sexy Beast and Indiana Jones and the

departed. Some say he is a geezer. We think he's the daddy. It's Ray

Winstone. # I've got you

# Deep in the heart of me... # Good to see you. Lovely to see you.

We have played this for you. It is my song. Don't start me off. We

could have got you a microphone. I haven't got a drink. Is that your

karaoke song? Yes, I have been singing it for years UK I nearly

sing it as Frank Sinatra. On special occasion: You can't say that now.

Let me switch off. That is you in a good mood and out. Your wife says

when you walk into a room you look like you are going to kill someone.

I don't mean to. I think it is lack of confidence sometimes. You kind of

put your chest out and you walk, walk in the room full of people,

and, it just makes you feel like you should be there, but, I don't mean

it. You know. Know. She says I look like I want to kill someone. We will

talk to Ray later on, all about his latest film, which is called

Jawbone, we loved it and it sees your return to your boxing roots,

which we will talk about in a while. The big news is that the Duke of

Edinburgh is retiring from public engagements this autumn. So we want

to hear from you if you have ever met Prince Philip. What was it? What

did he say, what did you say to him? Send us your pictures and we will

see as many as we can later. To our first film tonight, it is about the

pressures of parenting. In particular, being a dad. Dad. Kevin

has been to meet a bunch of men helping each other to talk about the

challenges they face. How many kids are you got? Here in

Rochdale, a group of dads are out on the streets reaching out to other

fathers. Are you a dad? Yes. How old? 15, 12 and six. Trouble ages.

Getting you mad. They want to persuade dads who might not consider

joining parenting groups to join them. It is run by local dads, for

local dads, sharing knowledge. Experiences, I. I'm a first time

dad. Your routine is 24/7, your chiern, you lose your identity and

then you can get where you don't want to go out.

As a father myself, I know how rewarding fatherhood can be, but I

also know it can be a challenge sometimes, and for dads who are

going through tough times help isn't always to hand but a group of guys

from Salford say they are come up with a way for fathers to support

each other. Steve, Alex and Antony have 11 kids between them and they

have all had difficulties to overcome. So three years ago, with

the backing of the NHS, they helped start a dads group in Salford called

Dadly Does It I have been in scenes of drugs misuse and what have you,

I've gone through having depression, my struggle was I couldn't bond with

my kids, through opening up to the guys, I managed to take that fear

away. I didn't really go out the house much. I didn't socialise,

struggle taking my kids to the park, just talking to somebody, that who

has been there, got the T-shirt and can relate to how you feel, makes a

massive difference. Alex, how important is that support?

Massively. My son, he said I want to be like you, the first time he said

it almost brought me to tears, the fact I have gone from sitting in the

house for my son wanting to be like me and there is no greater feeling.

Both Salford and Rochdale with the scene is running are in the top ten

most deprived areas in England and it is estimated a quarter of the

children are living in poverty. Making this project even more

important. Heather is a project manager as Unlimited Potential If

you expect fathers come to you you will wait a long time for those ones

that are hard to reach, the impact on the fathers that have been

closely involved, is life-changing. Today, the men are hoping to recruit

more dads to join the Rochdale group before extending the scheme out

across Greater Manchester. I was wondering what you are about really.

One of those looking to find out more is father of two teenage girls,

Rob Ronnie. We have dads of all ages with all ages of kids, a dad that

hasser kids has a wealth of knowledge. It is your experience,

the experience putting together, combination, you help each other.

Men don't tend to have very large social network, when they are

feeling down they don't have many people they can go to. What we are

trying to do is to build that environment, where dads can support

overs. You have that knowledge, you can share that with them, and help

maybe make their lives just that bit easier. Sounds good.

To give Ronnie a taste of what he can expect from signing up, he has

agreed to join some of the dads on one of the most popular activities

run by the group, a family bike ride, for dads and their kids. The

first one to the tree is the winner, after three, one... Two, three. One

of the men riding with Ronnie is father of three James, who thinks

the change of scenery helps the dads open up to each other. It is not

your normal sort of thing where you are sat round in a school hall or

whatever, it is out and about, in the real world and the kids love it,

and the dads love it. And the ride is a hit with the

children too. Ethan, what do you think about cycling round with your

dad? It is good to get some fresh air. Is it something you look

forward to? Yes. Since your dads have joins, you are getting lots of

fresh air, you get exercise and you spend time with your dad. We go out

more. As we reach the end of testify ride what has Ronnie made of it all?

Met new people, getting out, fresh air, all good, you can't go wrong

with it. So the dads have done it for you? Definitely. I am more of a

dad. That is lovely. Ray, you are a dad of three girls, did your mates

tap you up for any advice ahead of fatherhood? Yes, what do you say, I

got three daters and each one you think you are going to do it better

on the second one, but you kind of get it wrong, it is part of it, you

know, but watching that film there, is, I wasn't in that position, you

know, and I don't know what the answer is that. They are doing

something about it. But as we were saying, it is about industry, you

know, work and pride in yourself. If you have the chance to go to work,

do that. I guess, it is getting up in the morning, you have to have a

reason to get up in the morning. And go to work, and it can affect you in

different way, I was very lucky, I have a job. And let us move on to

this, your new film, there are some similarities really. Father figures

and camaraderie and it is set in the world of boxing, you were a trainer,

how do you sum it up? There is a lot of messages in there. For me, it is

funny, because I approach the film in a different way than Johnny did.

I play men I respect and Johnny respected as well. The guys who give

up their time to look after kids who come from a deprived area. In a lot

of cases, whether it is Manchester, Liverpool, Coventry. It doesn't

matter, whether you're a boxer or not, you end up being a boxer, it

doesn't matter, it gets you ready to the world outside and the way you

carry yourself as a person. I was lucky to have people like Tony

bowers and Johnny had his man as well. That is Johnny Harris. Yes, we

understand that world, and you want to do that world justice, you want

to do the men justice, but a at the same time there is the social side

of thing, where a man turned to alcohol, you know, he has got

nowhere to live, and this is happening today and we live in 2017

you think what is different from now, to going back to the Edwardian

times? People living in the poor house. That is it. And it does deal

with those tough kind of subjects and you play, Bill, who like you

said, you idolised as a kid, he is the owner and the trainer of this

gym and here he is giving boxer Jimmy some advice.

All right. Shut up and listen to me. You listening? I find one bot of

booze in here, just one, and you're out. I smell booze on your breath

just once, in my gym and you're out, do you understand?

APPLAUSE Well Ray, you are playing the kind

of characters you love, that was classic Ray Winstone, all those nice

silences and that deep intensity, what was it like for you to return

to that world of boxing? Emotional. Actually. Very happy memories, fear,

you know, because every time you box, I was, I was frightened. You

would be frightened. Is that you on the right there? Yes, and that is my

dad in the middle. The other fighter was David Heyland. Was he part of

your training team your dad? No he was just my dad, he liked having his

picture taken. You had a good run as a boxer, 80 wins out of 88 fights,

were you still scared? That was me, I think probably most fighters are,

I think that is something in it, you look across the ring as a man and

you think he's a big guy, I remember my first senior fight, he has hairy

legs and tattoos and I was still a kid. I thought I can't beat this

man, I'm still a a boy. You dig deep and find something, that kind of

sets you on a road for everything you have handled the rest of your

life. It is like making a film, you know, you read the script and you

think, I can't do this, you know, but you have to dig deep and you

find, that is part of the challenge of it. And obviously you brought a

lot of authenticity to the film, as did Johnny. I like to think so. But

Barry McGuigan also. He was advising on the fight scenes and training

Johnny and that for the fight. Because the fight scenes in the film

are real. They have a fight, you know, it is choreograph a certain

way, otherwise they would be knocking one another about too much.

But they were real fights, they are great fight scenes. It goes on and

on. It is a return to that kind of classic, not about special effects

it is... It is old style. Like how we used to make films in the 70, the

'80s, Nil By Mouth, War Zone maybe that is what I love, they all have a

social point. I love watching marvel films, but when you turn the telly

on it is on all the time. I wanted something with a bit of content that

educates me. With a bit of bite. Now to a man with a dashing good looks

of a matinee idol: Me? He is another one. Britain's first ever celebrity

fighter pilot. Emma has been finding out how this young pilot was not

only admired by the nation, but also by his arch rival, the Red Baron.

Oh it was a good fight. And the Huns were find sports. One tried to ram

me after he was hit and only missed me by inches. I am truly looked

after by God. I let them have everything I can. I do not think

them devils. I only scrap because it is my duty.

During the First World War many taught with a lucky charm, for some

it might be a lock of hair, but others perhaps a rabbit's foot. For

the pilot captain albell ball it was something quite different.

-- Albert Ball. At just 20 years old, Albert was a here -- row of the

sky with at least 44 victories to his name.

His bravery won his several honours including the freedom of the city of

Nottingham, his birthplace, and the Victoria Cross. But his young life

was cut tragically short while flying in France in May 1917. Albert

learned to fly in Hendon London, now the area is home to the RAF museum,

from which Claire Pool has been looking into his story. Albert was

very brave. He would dive on the enemy, take on whole squadrons, that

was his bravery and his courage. He always flew with a piece of plum

cake from home. It was his unlucky charm. He was very close to his

family, and this was just a little bit of love and a bit of home, to

take with him when he flew. Letter to mother, I was so pleased

to find the cake waiting for me, I have nearly finish it. I love to

take a piece flying with me in the morning. Albert's life and fighting

career are well documented in his letters but he also kept diaries.

100 years on his great Nice is releasing them. It is lovely they

will appear now when it is the 100th anniversary of his death. Do you

find any passages moving? There is one here when he said he has one of

his most Pappy -- happy days, he received a letter from Thelma, his

young lady at the time, congratulating him on his MC. One

from dad. Got up at 7.00am. Day spent spring cleaning hut and

testing machine. Holding them in my hands and knowing 100 years ago he

was holding them... It is funny you say that, because I can see

fingerprints if you look carefully. It is Albert's actual fringer prints

and it haunts you almost. You feel like you have become part of Albert.

Albert was known and admired by the Germans. On hearing the news of his

death, their own flying ace the Red Baron praised him as being by far

the best English flying man. His nephew has come to meet with Wanda.

He liked to go in the air. No risk, no fun. Now we have 100 years later

their family members meeting each other. What do you think they might

have thought about that? I am sure they would be very pleased. Wouldn't

they? Like we are. It is like history coming to life. It is very

emotional, actually. Albert's legacy is still treasured

by the squadron for whom he last flew. Is anybody interested in a

slice of our 100-year-old recipe? Yes. You imagine far from home, cold

and wet. Get something that reminds you of home. This is perfect for it.

Cheerio dear dad, please give my mother a big cheer Rio for me.

Tonnes of love, Albert. PS, do send me a few plants for my greenhouse.

Thanks for the chocs. A very big thank you to the 56th

squadron there. It is the 100th anniversary of Albert's death on

Sunday. Maybe make a fruitcake. It never goes astray. Ray, you built

one of these Red Barons as a kid. I wasn't born that long after the

Second World War. We used to make air fix models. You would hang them

up on the ceiling and make dogfights out of them. And then you went up to

Lancaster Bombers and all. That I have always been fascinated by

planes. Love them. We think we can do one better than your model

aeroplane! The man who is sitting in your left now. This is Peter. Now

Peter has spent... You are going applaud more when you see what he's

been up to. He's spent the last eight years building a life-sized

replica of the baron's plane in his garage. Peter, you have gone grey

since then! All this wisdom. He started in 1914!

Peter, was are a GP from Norfolk. Why did you want to build a plane? I

was always fascinated by it and then I just, by chance, heard that

there's actually a flying day at Duksford. It intrigued me. I found

out there were pilots in England who build the plane and fly it. I drove

to this show and spoke to one of them, John Day. He told me exactly

what to do, how to go about it and that's how it started. We will have

to bring your wife in. Sue has been a big part of this. What has your

life been like for the last eight years? Neglected!

She's a plane widow! No, it's been fine. It's kept him out of miss

chief! It is incredible to see it. Where do you start when building a

plane - which bit do you start with? You start with the plans. I started

with the wings because they are all made from wood in my garage. I got

all the material and started to do the wings. You have a Biggar raj, I

would say! And two wings were on one side and then the middle I started

work on the other one. When is the maiden voyage? Hopefully the summer

year. I am getting very close now and soon we're going to do another

test. It is currently untested in the air? Yes. It's not been in the

air yet. We have to get all the authority to approve and then we'll

test fly it. Who is we? We is actually my test pilot. OK. You

don't like this person very much, do you? I do. He's a friend of mine.

He's actually got one as well. He built one ten years ago. He knows

exactly how to fly it and I trust him. Sue, Peter gets a plane and you

get a beautiful Basset Hound. That was the deal-breaker. That is

Reggie, isn't it? I have an image of him with his ears flapping in the

wind! We wish you all the best with the

maiden voyage. Hopefully come back and tell us how

it went. Because Sunday there's a drama about a kid from the East End

who is a national treasure. It is not the story of Ray's rise to fame,

it's the story of Barbara Windsor. There is a connection with a member

of the Winstone family because Ray's daughter Jamie plays the young Babs.

Here is the story. In the past the private lives of national treasures

like Morecambe and Wise were only dramatised after they passed away.

More recently Boy George and others have undergone a treatment, one in

which the star is very much alive at the time of filming. Now it is the

turn of one of Britain's best-loved actresses Dame Barbara Windsor. Babs

tells the story of Barbara's early life and career, right back to the

streets of Stepney and her first auditions.

# On the sunny side of the street... And for writer Tony Jordan, it is a

unique opportunity to tell the true story of an actress everyone thinks

they know. What I really wanted to do was to stop people thinking about

Barbara as Carry On or EastEnders. She was on broadway. She had a whole

career before anyone saw her in the Carry on Films. Most was built

around the theatre. Essentially we joined Barbara in the theatre

looking back over her life. Filming is under way here. The One

Show have arranged for us to have a little sneaky preview.

In other news, Miss Windsor's current bo Ronnie Knight has been

found not guilty of theft... What did I tell you? Sam ma that Spiro is

one of four actresses playing Barbara at different stages of her

life. The film takes place, actually the two hours between a matinee and

the evening show and I play the Barbara of present day, which is

1993. And it's at a point in her life when things are not that great.

It is the year before EastEnders. She's just come out of her second

marriage and she's thinking, what happened? What are you doing, love?

I don't know! Just working things out. Trying to

make sense of it. Now, you've played Barbara before,

haven't you? What's lovely about it this time is I'm not worried about

the impersonation of her. It feels like it's in my bones. I played it

in the theatre for six months. Jamie Winstone plays Barbara's younger

self. What period of life are you covering - looking at you I can

tell? The 60s, a little part of the 50s. This is the bit that people

really don't know. They know she married Ronnie Knight and all that.

They don't know the stage side, do they? They don't know about her past

and her relationships with her dad particularly. It's been so lovely to

kind of step into Barbara's shoes. She had a completely wild time.

# Oh the memories will soon grow cold... You have the central

character alive and kicking. How much has she limited her writing?

She's never sensored anything I wanted to do. It was great having

her there to just be a rudder almost. What about the harshest

critic of all? I can finally ask the grande dame herself how it feels to

see your life flash before your eyes? The lovely Tony Jordan got me.

It's the way I am. It is his portrayal of me. I don't mind that,

you know... Is it weird for you going on set and seeing these two

women dressed and looking exactly like you? Yeah. I think they look

better than me! I quite like it. They both look great. Does it make

you look back on any part of your life and think, I would have done

things slightly differently? Yes. But then you say that wouldn't make

me what I am today. Do you think there's anything in the film that

people will be surprised by seeing? I'm hoping some will say, oh, didn't

know she could sing! Oh, didn't know she could dance. Oh, she's an

actress. I thought she just did the Carry Ones.

# There'll be a little bag of gold to prove that you are mine...

Babs is on this Sunday. It is on at 8pm here on BBC One. You have

already seen it, Ray. What did you think? Well, she's my little girl,

you know. I have to tell her I don't really care. She's fantastic. She's

just got it, bang. Whatever she got to create what she's done on there,

she should bottle it and keep it and just go to work like that all her

life. It's fantastic. Proud dad moment! That's nice. I'm going to

have a cry! Right, well after dramatic scenes

today at the palace, and after a lot of speculation... I cannot say it!

Speculation. I got you! It was announced that Prince Philip will

step down from public life, joking he cannot stand up much. To tell us

more is Gyles Brandreth. Hi... Oh a little ripple there!

Just a little! Is this for health reasons? No. It is not. I saw the

Duke of Edinburgh this week up close and personal. I will tell you I

don't think you will find many in their mid-907s who are as fit as he

-- in their mid-90s who are as fit as he is. He's walking without a

stick. A spring in his stride I think he's retiring now to have a

few years of actual retirement. He's been doing this for 70 years. It's

70 years since the Duke of Edinburgh became the Duke of Edinburgh. The

end of this year mark his 70th wedding anniversary. He been at the

Queen's side for longer than we have been alive. He's been part and

parcel of her life all those years. A very significant day in our

island's story. Because it was so significant, the whole family were

brought from all corners to hear the news. It is news for the country. It

is news for the Commonwealth, for the Royal Family. It is worth

remembering that Prince Philip is twice as royal as the Queen. They

are both great, great grandchildren of Queen Victoria. His mother and

father were descended from kings, Queens and Tsars, the works. One

side of the Queen's family is truly royal. His mother was at Queen

Victoria's Diamond Jubilee. His mother was born at Windsor Castle.

The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh believe in the purpose of royalty.

So, this was a significant moment in the family's story. The Queen wears

the crown. He's always worn the trousers. Well talking of those

engagements, look at this - this is a star-struck Joan, aged 11 in

Germany, where her father served. Wasn't he gorgeous. She said he was

so hand some. People think of his as a naval officer. This is the royal

visit to Bedford. He's laughing because he was asked what he said.

He said, marketing, to which Prince Philip responded, "What's all that

about? " That is one of 25,000 public engagements. Thank you very

much. A big thank you to Winstone as well.

Who is filling in for me tomorrow? I mean, it is Gyles. Thank you!

I'll get my bag!