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Hello and welcome to

The One Show with Matt Baker.

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And Alex Jones.

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We're all about the

lights this evening.

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Here are some amazing photos

from around the country

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of last night's super moon.

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Look at that! Did you see it?

No, I

didn't even know it was happening.

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What can we say?

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But if you missed it,

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the good news is we've got another

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natural wonder lighting up our sofa

- it's Sue Perkins!

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Did you see it?

I was aware of it

because I have three quarters blinds

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in my bedroom and my dog has a role

to get out of the bed if it is

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light. All night long, I had that

wheezing the Staffordshire bull

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terrier in my face.

I was putting up

the Christmas tree.

All night?

I'm

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very specific about my Christmas

tree. It's a long process.

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Sue,

staying with lights, have

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you ever been asked to turn on any

Christmas lights anywhere?

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No, because I have no transferable

skills. I can't touch something

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without excusing or blowing up.

Don't say that, because...

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Well, tonight, Sue, we're

making dreams come true

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because we'll be getting you to turn

on some Christmas lights.

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Not just any lights, but the UK's

highest Christmas lights -

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1,017 feet up at the

top of the Shard!

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There you go. That's live at the

moment.

Norway!

We have a friend

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who's going to make that happen.

We

have spoken to Simon and he is

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poised. He is poised with the switch

of dreams.

That's good because Simon

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is physically switching them on, but

with the power of my mind I am

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communicating the exact moment.

You

can say when.

Bat is better than the

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power of my mind.

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Also coming up on the show: We've

been given exclusive

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behind-the-scenes access to the set

of hit royal drama The Crown ahead

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of its second series.

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I'm so jealous!

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Can't wait.

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Over the next few weeks,

lots of us will be posting photos

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on social media of our office

Christmas parties and festive family

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gatherings, without giving

it a second thought.

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However, in some circumstances it

could have severe consequences

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and even cost you your career,

as one former care

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manager told Kevin.

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Rachel burden's life is in tatters.

She's lost her job and her

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reputation. Today, she's in court in

the hope a judge 's decision will

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change her fortunes for the better.

Two years of my life have just been

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taken away.

She didn't harm anyone.

She didn't steal anything. She

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posted a photo to Facebook. For 21

years, Rachel worked at this care

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home for elderly and vulnerable

adults. As manager, every Friday

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night, she organised entertainment

for the residents. It was the

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highlight of the week for

57-year-old David, who has down's

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syndrome.

He popped on stage. He

wanted his photograph taken with the

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three of us, so we did. It was a

great night. Nothing untoward. I put

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the photograph on Facebook and

thought nothing more of it after

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that.

By posting the photo,

identifying David and the location,

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Rachel had breached the council's

social media guidance and resident

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confidentiality.

The assistant

director told me, "This is probably

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going to be construed as gross

misconduct, and you could end up

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getting dismissed from the council.

"

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getting dismissed from the council.

".

She was suspended on full pay and

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given an ultimatum.

I was given two

working days to decide on demotion

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or dismissal. No way could I make

that sort of decision in that time

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frame. They phoned me up and told me

if I didn't accept it then I was

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being dismissed with effect from

that day, and that's what happened.

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The photo received five likes. No

one shared it.

I knew how good she

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was at her job.

Reverend David had

been visiting the care home for over

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a year, offering chaplaincy to

residents.

Rachel had such care for

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the residents, and was so observant.

It was very friendly and homely.

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There was a sense of love.

I didn't

mean any harm by what I did. And

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they crucified me for giving 21

years.

Come here. Rachel had broken

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the rules, and why while residents

appeared happy to be in the photo,

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his family could have objected. Here

is the real moral dilemma in this

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case. They didn't. In fact, they

were more than happy for David to be

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featured. Claire is David's sister.

She and her husband Graham were

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there on that fateful Friday

evening. Can I just be absolutely

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clear and ask you, did you mind?

When we found out, we were aghast.

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Friday night was the thing that he

looked forward to every day.

He

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loved being the centre of attention.

Absolutely. And does taking photos

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and posting them on Facebook and

sharing them with the family.

He

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wanted that to happen.

So when the

incident occurred, we were just

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amazed that that was the cause of

the problems that Rachel

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experienced.

Rachel took the council

to an employment tribunal, accusing

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them of unfair dismissal. With no

money, she couldn't afford legal

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representation, but Reverend David

stepped up.

I lived under vows to be

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a supporter of everything that is

fine and fair and a challenger of

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what is mean and destructive. You

cannot stand on the sidelines and

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let things happen to people as good

as Rachel.

David represented Rachel

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in the tribunal.

I needed to prove

that what I did, OK, yes, I did

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something wrong, but the sanction

was far too harsh.

Rachel won her

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case. The tribunal found that the

two days she had to make a decision

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wasn't fair. But she had lost the

career she loved. Today, she is back

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at court to find out how much

compensation she will receive for

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her unfair dismissal.

I'm extremely

nervous at the moment because it is

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a massive big day.

After a full day

in court, Rachel has the decision.

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An offer of £5,800.

It is not what I

wanted. 21 years of going above and

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beyond for my clients and my staff

and the families. That's all I'm

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worth is £5,800.

The average person

uploads for voters to Facebook

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everyday. How often do you stop and

think about the consequences? --

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format photographs.

There was no

malice in what I did. He loved the

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music nights.

She is a serious

casualty of all of this.

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And Rachel and Kevin are here now.

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Thank you for joining us.

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You have brought loads of joy to

people's lives. Loads of people

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watching will feel sorry for your

situation. The care home has closed

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down.

Yes.

So what did the council

say?

The tribunal said they agreed

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with the fact that Rachel had broken

the rules, but they considered the

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offer to the motor to a lower

grateful was unfair and it was that

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which determined the compensation.

So you have had time to really think

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about things going forward. What are

your plans?

Well, since my story has

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broken in BBC Radio four and a

newspaper, I have very kindly got

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legal representation, and there is a

barrister looking at now whether I

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should appeal the judgment going

forward.

And can you ever see

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yourself going back into the care

sector I can.

Maybe not this year,

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but certainly next year, but I won't

go back into full management. It is

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my vocation. It is what I was born

to do.

And at the end of the day,

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you were posting that photo to

celebrate that night and David's

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performance. Kevin, it is tough and

really hard to hear this, but there

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are lessons here for people when you

read between the lines. The best way

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forward as far as uploading

photographs and the amount of

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content that you are pairing with

that.

Yes, I think anybody who has a

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social media account, most companies

have a social media policy in place

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and the rule is if you are not sure

ask your HR department and read the

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policy. It is as simple as that.

Lots of people on social media

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books, "Views are my own." That

doesn't you, legally.

Doesn't it?

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That's interesting.

But it will make

you more conscientious about what

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you are putting on there. Social

media is evolving all the time and

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the onus is on the company to let

you know if they have changed their

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guidelines are their policy, so just

to be double sure, check with your

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HR department every six months to

see of the policy has changed. Going

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forward, people who are going for

jobs now, the questions that you ask

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about salary and holiday pay and

sick pay, you should ask about the

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social media policy. The difficulty

that Rachel had as well is

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separating work social media and

personal social media, because

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sometimes they combine.

And

sometimes that business has a

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presence in social media. But for

anybody who is watching this now,

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Rachel, are you just totally off

social media now?

No, I still have

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my Facebook account, but obviously I

am very careful of what I post on

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there and I would say to people, if

it is anything to do with your job

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or anything like that, just don't do

it. Just don't do it.

Thank you,

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Rachel.

I'm just glad you are going

back and pursuing the case. It

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hasn't pushed you off your purge.

That is great. And a lot of people

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will learn from the story you have

told tonight, so thank you for that.

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Every week on Sue's show

Insert Name Here, she asks

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a celebrity panel questions

about people who share a first name.

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And that name changes

from week to week.

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This week, the name is Anne

and here they're talking

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about where a famous Anne used

to live.

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What was this building voted?

Sexiest genius?

Most haunted?

Yes,

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it was voted most haunted house in

Britain.

You can see the ghosts on

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the gravel.

They say that the ghost

of Anne Boleyn arrives, driven by a

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headless coachman, which is what

happens when you book a Uber.

We've

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enjoyed you on so many different

programmes now, but this show goes

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way back for you. It is something

you developed a while ago.

Yes, the

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guy whose idea it was I have known

since I was 18, so just over ten

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years now. Just the blink of a

night! But the show has been

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developed over four years, so we got

it would be fun to pilot it in an

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office environment. They said they

would like more history, so they

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said to do it as a pilot for BBC

Four and you could talk about by 17

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art, and then they said they wanted

it for BBC One, so then we did it in

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a sequence cut, juggling. And then

they said they wanted it for BBC

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Two, which has a bit of everything.

So we were really lucky to get it

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away and series three now and they

are such clubs. They are swell

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gentleman.

They are a good

combination. So for people who

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haven't caught it, the premises you

take a name and it can be, like,

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Matt.

You haven't done that name.

No, and you should be believed

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because all of the people have eaten

something weird or slept with

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something weird.

And there's a

Christmas special?

Yes, Monday the

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21st, and we feature Christmas

names, whether it is no oil or IDE

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or whatever.

Mary, Joseph.

We

already did Mary and she was the

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greatest merit of all time. Mary

Queen of Scots.

She can't be better

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than Mary Berry?

No, Mary Berry beat

Mary Queen of Scots.

And you have

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done another special, which is Mel

and Sue's Big Christmas Thank You,

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which is part of the brilliant array

of programmes over Christmas. Have

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you seen the Christmas trail?

I saw

a lot of people on Twitter saying

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they cried, and I thought that was

ridiculous. Then I watched it and

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within 20 seconds I was gibbering.

The pace of it is so lovely and

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because we are talking over it, you

don't quite get the sense of it.

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Apparently, a real 12-year-old girl

did the whole dance routine and then

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they kind of animated alongside that

and then you get this beautiful

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creation.

It is a joy. And it sort

of sums up everything you want to be

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feeling at Christmas.

Sorry, I was

just watching there. It's so

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brilliant. It's everything you want.

What will you be watching at

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Christmas time? Are you one of these

movies or TV?

It's A Wonderful Life,

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always. I will also be watching The

Crown.

Friday is the day. We'll talk

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about that later.

Yes, we will.

We

loved your series on the Ganges and

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you are travelling again. You are

filming Jim and the rehab. It sounds

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nuts. -- chimpanzee rehab.

We

stopped experiment in on

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chimpanzees, but in the states they

still do it and it is madness. The

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chimpanzees do not help with finding

a cure for HIV, so all of the

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chimpanzees have been retired and I

went along to see a group of female

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chimpanzees who were in laboratories

for 20 years and they met a group of

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male chimps and they had never been

together.

What happened?

Let me tell

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you... We couldn't put most of it

out on television.

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She really had a very glad eye,

that's all I'm saying. Attenborough

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would have blushed! It was very

challenging for me to meet people

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who had been involved in laboratory

testing work, but it was

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extraordinary. Extraordinary access.

Sounds like you have had a very busy

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year. We hope you have a restful

Christmas.

I will.

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The new driving test came into force

today with a raft of changes,

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including the use of Sat Navs.

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But not everyone is happy -

lots of examiners are currently

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on a 48-hour strike.

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Some test centres have been open

for business as usual,

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and this morning we followed

Freddy, who was one of

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the very first to take the new test.

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We'll be revealing his results live

on the show after this film.

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17-year-old Freddie is getting ready

for his first and what he hopes will

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be his only driving test.

Watch that

tree!

The test that Freddie's

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preparing for has undergone a total

revamp. In just under 24 hours,

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Freddie will be one of the first to

try his luck at the newly-rolled out

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system. In preparation for the big

day, his dad, Dave, is letting him

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have extra practise driving their

Land Rover off road.

That's it. Into

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second.

How are you feeling about

tomorrow?

Nervous, obviously. I

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think I am prepared.

What was your

driving test like, dad?

Probably

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easier. Relatively speaking it was

still difficult in the day. I was

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still as nervous as what Freddie is.

I have taught him the hand signals,

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be you don't need to do them now.

How about driving in a field - how

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will that help?

My theory was if he

can master these gears and control,

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he can probably master all luxury

cars that are around now.

The big

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question, dad, if he passes

tomorrow, does he get to drive the

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Land Rover solo? . He can do, yes. I

joo I don't know if I want to.

If he

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can afford to fill it up!

As well as

the coaching from his dad, Freddie's

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having one final lesson, with his

instructor, Ed. They have allowed

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many eto join them for the ride

today. Let's see what Freddie's made

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of. Let's go!

The new test Freddie is taking has

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been updated to include using a Sat

Nav for direction.

Take the second

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left...

Answering vehicle safety

questions when driving.

When it is

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safe to do so, wash wiper the front

window.

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And revise manoeuvres, including

reversing out of a parking bay - one

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of Freddie's toughest driving

challenges.

How tight is it on your

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side?

I think quite tight. We're in

the bay.

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Give him a chance! He's done it! The

driving vehicle standards agency

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believes these new changes will more

accurately reflect modern driving

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conditions. Is the new test harder?

No. I don't believe it is any harder

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or any easier. I think it is

different. Driving in today's

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environment has changed a lot over

the last, well, 30/40 years,

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especially since I took my test. So,

with further development of it, it

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is a good thing. Change is

inevitable, no matter what we do.

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Some examiners say parts of the new

test are dangerous. What is your

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reaction to that?

I don't think the

renewed test is dangerous at all. I

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think what you have to do as a

trainer and when you are training

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people is choose your areas

carefully.

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How has our Freddie got on today?

He's done really well today. A lot

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of good things. Just got to watch

his mirrors. There he is, just

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checking them again. I think he

stands a really good chance

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tomorrow.

If you hear those words,

you have passed, Freddie? What will

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it mean to you?

It will mean a lot.

It means a lot. So that's a plus.

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Good luck tomorrow.

Feel nervous. I

feel prepared with all the lessons

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I've had. Especially that two-hour

lesson yesterday.

It is the moment

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of truth. After four months of hard

work it all comes down to the next

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40 minutes.

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Well that 40 minutes finished at

11am. Freddie... How did it go?

I

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will be pleased to mention that I've

passed.

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APPLAUSE

The freedom that you've got now,

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Freddie! Off the scale!

Was there a moment when it was a bit

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kind of like this?

I did take a

wrong turning on the Sat Nav section

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of the test.

Happens to the best of

us.

Minor.

Your dad's in as well it

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is all celebration. Magic. In a

moment, Sue will help us to switch

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on with the help of Simon.

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Simon is standing by.

Hopefully he's

watching the one show at the moment.

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Something I cannot wait for is the

second series of The Crown. It

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returns on Friday and Sarah Mack was

not only allowed on the set but

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given a right royal role.

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In this job there is always a catch.

This might not be bucking ham

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palace, but it is definitely home to

the Crown.

The world has changed.

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The Crown is a story of our

monarchy, close up and personal.

The

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monarchy is too fragile.

Filming for

series two is under way here in

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Salisbury at Wilton House. It is a

cast of thousands. 260 principal

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actors and 6,500 extras. Thankfully

not all on set at any one time.

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And for one day only an extra,

extra. Me. Sarah, work your magic,

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can you? To ensure the detail in the

drama is as authentic as possible,

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the production have enlisted the

help of major Hutt who spent 30

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years the the Royal Household.

To

help with the detail, to make sure

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deliveries are correct. The person

playing the parts are credible. That

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he's not wearing his belt like a

Spanish policeman. It is important

0:23:140:23:17

to make sure that they look the part

and sound the part.

What is it that

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you'd have me change?

Everything.

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How accurate do you think the

production is?

Putting aside my

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contribution, I think it is very

accurate. Sometimesvy to pinch

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myself that Clare isn't the Queen

and realise you are actually on a

0:23:340:23:39

film set.

They play the Queen and

Prince Philip.

You look lovely.

I

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cannot think of anything more

terrifying than playing the most

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important woman in the world. What

is the challenge - the physicality

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or the voice?

In the auditions I

didn't do the accent. I didn't know

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I could do it until I was doing it.

To do nothing is often the best

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course of action. History was not

made by those who did nothing.

It

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must be interesting for you to play

that inside role.

I really like the

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scenes when they are domestic. That

is when it is compelling.

This

0:24:160:24:20

restlessness of yours, it has to be

a part of the past.

I was taught to

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curtsy. You cannot go low enough.

That's amazing.

First time as an

0:24:270:24:34

extra, any tips?

Don't talk too

loudly on the takes.

Silent laugh.

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That's great!

It's 1960s, Princess Margaret has

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announced her engagement to Anthony

Armstrong Jones and what better way

0:24:530:24:59

to celebrate than a knees up. How is

it going this morning?

It is fine.

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We love these big group family

scenes.

What is life like as

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Princess Margaret like? Do you enjoy

it?

The best. Even her dark moments.

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It is so varied and you get to know

them so well it is like driving a

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car really. I just compared that to

driving a car!

Being in this room

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blows you away.

The first few months

we were like, oh, my God, look at

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it.

That's a rem brand.

And you get

used to it as they would have done.

0:25:300:25:40

Going to steal the show.

She's off!

0:25:400:25:46

Can I come and talk to you two

ladies. How long have you done this

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for?

Three years.

Downton Abbey and Poldark.

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This is it - my big moment.

There is no possibility of my

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forgiving you. The question is, how

on earth can you forgive yourself? I

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think I've come home. This is very

me.

0:26:230:26:26

Off you go!

0:26:270:26:30

Sarah will never be the same again.

I know. I would have loved to have

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done that film.

0:26:360:26:42

And the new series of the Crown

premieres on Netflix this Friday.

0:26:420:26:48

The view from London from the roof

of our studios is looking very

0:26:480:26:51

Chrisstmassy this evening.

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And on Friday's show we asked

you to send in photos

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of your impressive Christmas lights.

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You did not disappoint.

So we had, first this is Chris and

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Tony's house. They switched on their

lights on Saturday. Look at...

Good

0:27:120:27:16

work Chris and Tony. Good work.

However, if you are in

0:27:160:27:21

Stoke-on-Trent be sure to stop by

Ian's house. Ian, that is

0:27:210:27:24

unbelievable.

He's gone to town.

How

many snowmen?

That's not enough.

0:27:240:27:30

Come on, there are more to be had in

that front garden.

And then we've

0:27:300:27:35

got Emma's lights in Sheffield.

She's even done the wheelie bin,

0:27:350:27:40

which I like.

She's even put on the

car lights. It's not lit up enough.

0:27:400:27:47

It's lovely.

Very pretty. That is a

nice lead-in, because now we have

0:27:470:27:54

immense pressure on the shoulders of

Sue. You are about to turn on the

0:27:540:27:58

lights of the Shard. Simon is on the

phone so you can give him the

0:27:580:28:01

command. Are you here

Yes. I am

here.

Simon, I am hoping this is not

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an elaborate joke and the Shard will

go dark and St Pauls will light up.

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Simon, are we ready?

We are ready

when you are Sue for switching on

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the lights. Do you want to give me a

countdown?

What do you want, five

0:28:160:28:24

seconds.

Three, two, one... What you

like.

Just a three then. Three, two,

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one...

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Yes! It's worked. There you go!

Simon, thank you so much!

0:28:340:28:44

Simon has gone quiet!

That's all we

have time for tonight.

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That's it us from us -

Sue's Insert Name Here continues

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tonight at 10pm on BBC Two.

0:28:540:28:55

On tomorrow's show we're

joined by Joanna Lumley.

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See you. Bye!

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