Joanna Lumley is in the studio to tell Matt Baker and Michelle Ackerley what secrets she will be spilling on her first ever live tour. Kevin Duala visits Borth Zoo.
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Hello and welcome to
The One Show with Matt Baker.
And Michelle Ackerley.
After a showbiz career
spanning six decades,
our guest tonight has decided to hit
the road for a tell all tour,
And with all the jobs she's
done over the years,
there's a lot to talk about.
Please welcome, Joanna Lumley!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.
A whip through memory lane. A lot of
Joannas there. If you were to go
back to one of them, which one would
I wouldn't go back to being
a model. I did love it, but I
wouldn't be one again. I wouldn't
mind being Purdey again because that
was very fit and lots of fighting
and good things like that. I would
like to go about being a bit part
nobody. That's quite nice. A
girlfriend in On The Buses. And
being a Bond girl was fabulous. They
dressed me in a black twinkly think,
saying it was the English girl's
outfit. It was a bit of a blur, but
Joanna is going on
tour. It's called, It's All About
Me. Tonight we want to see tours
with thousands of Joannas running
about the place. The age of Purdey.
Look at that. You wear it well. If
you wore it like Lumley back in the
day, show us a photo. When you went
into this haircut, what did you ask
It was down to their and Brown
-ish. I was thinking very hard about
the part of Purdey. I thought she
was very businesslike, fit and able,
so I'd didn't want fiddly long-hair.
They asked me to cut it short. John
Frieda was an assistant young junior
hairdresser. It took four hours. The
boy holding the Kirby grips for him
was called Nicky Clark! They were
just babies. Cropped hair, I wanted
it to look like a boy, cut into the
neck with a bit heavy fringe.
you know when you looked in the
mirror it was a winner?
think that, but I thought, that's
more like it.
It's a winner to us.
We will talk more about your tour
later. Moving on...
A few months ago we spent time
with a family that had made
the ultimate career change,
when they bought a zoo
despite having no zoo experience.
Since then, they've encounter
a number of serious setbacks,
and Kevin has returned to see
what the future holds.
In May of this year, the tweedy
family gave up their cosy life in
Kent to buy this zoo in Wales.
have just completed on the zoo!
Despite having no experience of
If they are out, July
just chuck them back in?
months ago they were introducing
their first animals.
This is our
life, our home and our future.
lot has changed. The zoo is closed.
And there are questions over whether
amateurs should be in charge of one
People are being warned to
be on the lookout for a wild cat
that has escaped from a animal Park.
In October they experienced every
zoo's worst nightmare, a dangerous
animal on the loose, Lilith the
Lynx. They found themselves on the
hunt for a wildcat.
those kinds of skills is something I
haven't got. It was a tough time. A
lot of nights spent up walking
through woods and Bob mountains.
With Lilith on the loose the council
requested an immediate inspection of
the big cat enclosures. Which meant
moving another links.
use the main part of the enclosure.
The keeper tasked with moving lily
use a Catchpole and dog cage. Not
considered best practice by some in
The keeper was trying
to be extra secure, and making sure
she wasn't running out. Using a
Catchpole for a few seconds well we
shut the door.
didn't release it in time.
animal became distressed and was
resuscitate her. One of the staff
gave her mouth to mouth. I gave her
a heart massage, but she died. It
was horrible. Really horrible.
there anything more the cat keeper
could have done?
People have argued
we are inexperienced, but he has
worked with the cat for five years.
If anything he was having more
precautions because he didn't want
another cats to escape.
the escaped Lynx was spotted in a
nearby caravan park. Unbeknown to
the Tweedys, the council took
They were concerned she
might have hurt somebody. They
called in the firearms team. The
call came through that she had been
destroyed. That was just like our
whole world falling through, sort of
The county council has since
told us awhile they would have
wished for a different outcome, they
had no option but to take decisive
action to protect the public. With
the death of both animals in the
space of two weeks, the Council been
carried out a detailed inspection of
They have been over us with
a fine tooth comb, giving us a
bigger inspection and places like
One week on, the results
are in. They have been given 120
improvements they need to make.
There are big things like flooding
and drainage, and the electrics, big
things like that.
By far the biggest
blow is the potential removal of
their star attractions.
they are wanting to take away the
category one animals. The lions,
leopards, Lynx, the bigger monkeys
and snakes and became and
crocodiles. Some of those animals
are too elderly to be moved safely,
which means they would be destroyed,
and that's not right.
are also calling for the zoo to be
shut down, with a petition gaining
more than 12,000 signatures. But
there is nothing to stop novices
like the Tweedys running a zoo, as
long as they followed the
government's licensing rules.
have been agencies in the UK that
start with one person's passion and
that can be a route to success. But
a zoo isn't a hobby. It's a very
People might say
because you are inexperienced, you
are just treating it as a hobby zoo.
This was never a hobby for us. We
have always worked with animals,
cared for animals.
have been errors and we will make
sure it never happens again.
regret taking it on, is it too big a
job for you?
We knew it was going to
be big, but it's bigger than we
thought it was. But we remain
completely committed to doing this
and turning it around and turning it
into the sanctuary it should be.
With us is one of the few
people who can relate
to the Tweedys situation.
Benjamin Mee took over
Dartmoor Zoo in 2006,
and ended up being played
by Matt Damon in the movie
We Bought A Zoo...
Watching that film there, you can
relate to the Tweedys' situation
after what you went through. What
would you put their situation down
to? Is it inexperienced or bad luck?
It's so hard to say. Watching the
film, I did it quite emotional
reliving our first days at the zoo.
It was a very rundown project, and
we had good intentions to try to
save the animals that were there.
That is key for us, that all the
animals at our place were going to
be destroyed and the place was going
to be turned into a nursing home.
the start you had no experience
We didn't. We spent a lot of
time talking to the local authority
in advance of making an offer to see
if it was feasible for outsiders,
amateurs, I was writing a book about
animal intelligence, but I didn't
have zoo experience. I spoke to the
local authority a lot about going
about this. The key thing was to
employ animal managers who know
exactly what they are doing and
deferred to them in the business
plan. If you have to renovate the
place and you want an ice cream
machine, and the curator says, we
need more fence posts or enrichment
in this direction, you have to
prioritise the animals. That was
always our intention and we have
Expert staff is key. It's
up to you how involved to get you
get with the experts. Looking at the
licensing laws, should they change
to protect the animals more?
think so. I think the licensing laws
in this country are among the most
stringent in the world and they are
adhered to extremely well with most
zoos in the country. Ours is a
member of the British and Irish
Association of zoos and the Querrey.
-- and aquariums. You can only get
into that organisation if you show
your practices are over and above
the line 's singer requirements,
which already some of the best in
the world. Just like the licensing
Joanna come you are
involved with the animal rights
group Born Free. Are there any roles
for zoos in the UK?
Born Free was
originally called zoo check, to
check on the zoos to make sure they
kept their animals properly. And
secondly to close zoos down, stop
them together. We always felt
wildlife belongs in the wild. I
think with filming, the kind of
filming techniques we have now, we
can see animals unbelievably free
and wonderful, I wonder if there is
still a place in a 21st-century for
looking at them in enclosures,
looking at specimens. You don't see
them behaving naturally outside
their natural habitat. We were
discussing this, we both love
animals, but we come from different
sides of the fence. I believe they
should be kept in the wild.
Benjamin, you are hoping to do
something quite remarkable with the
The Amur leopard,
as part of a breeding programme,
there are 300 or so Amur leopards in
captivity in Europe and 200 of them
are breathable animals. In the wild
in Siberia there are probably only
around 50. -- are breeding animals.
The wild population is extremely
inbred. Even without poaching they
would die out within 30 years
because of the inbreeding. It's
important to cross pollinate the
European population with the wild
population. Dartmoor zoo has been
selected as one of four zoos in the
country to be able to hold Amur
leopards, aftershow, not for public
spectacle, they are only for a
serious conservation programme. And
to release their offspring back into
That is positive.
increase the genetic diversity. The
wild is being depleted by the
captive population is stable.
will leave it there. And Joanna will
be talking about her Born Free tour
next year, telling audiences
anything they would like to know
about your career, Joanna.
But before we find out more,
another celebrity wants to take us
on a trip down memory lane.
And it's all to give thanks
to the women who helped make him
the man he is today.
My name is Shane Patrick Roche, but
most people know me as Shane Richie,
or even Alfie Moon.
I love you,
You're not too bad
yourself! But I'm not an East End
boy. I was brought up here. A little
part of north-west London. A place
called Harlesden. Welcome to my
stomping ground. Both my parents
moved from Dublin to London in the
early 60s in search of work. After I
was born, we moved to a top floor
flat here in Craven Park. This is
such a strange experience. More than
40 years ago, that's the last time I
came to the house I grew up in. I
lived here with my parents and
younger brother, Dean. But this was
no ordinary house. For a time it was
a refuge for what were then called
battered wives and their kids. My
mum was the caretaker. In the middle
of the night we would get a phone
call from the local police station
saying there was another lady
turning up with her children. The
police would stand here in the
corridor. I would stand at the top
of the stairs and watch these women,
most of the time they were holding
their faces where they had been
physically abused. The children
would be standing there crying. ...
My mum would love me to show. All
the children would meet upstairs and
I would stand behind the curtain and
my mum would say, please welcome
onto the stage, the one and only
Shane Roche. I would stand there and
# And call it puppy love... My mum
was the backbone. She made this
house work. My dad ran several
clubs. We would turn up. After a few
drinks. He certainly let himself
know he was in the house. We always
knew when he was coming home.
If things got too much, there was
always the street, my playground.
This was the stop the number 18 bus
which will run right past our house.
And it would stop here and me and my
mates would come up the road, as the
bus came on we would jump on and
tried to hide from the conductor
without paying. I used to go
travelling with my mum a lot on the
bus, we go to the West End for one
reason or another. You could see
into people'shouses, when they were
watching TV, and I never forget my
mum sing, all of these people are
going to know who you are.
# Baby, I'm your man...
And so the dream began and my first
public performance was right here at
the Gwalia working men 's club. I'd
got the bit of pocket money from
this. It was on this stage that I
kind of kick started my career,
belting out songs and telling jokes
and just singing with the bands. It
all started here. My DNA is up here
as an 11-year-old, singing. As a
teenager teachers believed my
talents were better served elsewhere
so I started moon shining in theatre
where I was taught by Liz Arnold.
And that teaching you. It was
lovely. Smashing. I loved what you
did. You were always generous.
always wanted to share stuff. I
remember my dad was working on the
building site and he would ask me to
go and work and I have never been so
adamant I didn't want to work on a
building site. I would say, yes, I'm
an actor, I got these big dreams of
things I want to do. I know that you
met him a couple of times and he was
very angry. I remember him saying
that people like us couldn't afford
to do acting.
You always went for
I needed somebody to
hold my hand up, and that was you. I
was now on a path that would take me
from the West End to the small
screen and the dream of that little
boy on the number 18 bus came true.
Thanks for being so open. Joanna, we
were just saying that you went back
to an important school, a boarding
school. He spent a lot of time at
this boarding school, this convent
This was the second one from
the age of 11-17. It was called
Saint Mary 's. It was in the hills
behind Hastings. I adored it.
you? And when you went back to see
at what memories washed over you?
had very good memories. When your
memories are fresh and young, you
are like fresh plasticine, you
remember the names of the first
dogs, your first boyfriend! I just
loved it, I had such affection for
it, I remember gaslit corridors. It
was so cold when the windows were
open at night that our days with
reason the washstand, and the chapel
bells ringing and ringing, but it
was a very happy school and they
were darling nuns, and later gave me
an awful lot!
You have some
fascinating stories that will be
weaved into your tour. It's called
It's All About Me. It is quite
unscripted at the start.
It can be
unscripted. I thought I would start
of kind of in the modelling days.
Even people who are not alive then
would know about the 60s, modelling,
Mary Quant and all that. We have
lots of pictures of that, as well.
You said that this something you
wouldn't like to revisit.
talk! You didn't grin. In those days
you never smile. The ones that come
down the catwalk now look absolutely
furious. That is just the way it has
to be as a model, thin and furious.
Was it a happy time? It was great,
fantastic. We were not paid very
much, about £4 ten an hour, £5 ten
an hour, quite a lot of money then
but not a lot by today's modelling
money. We would have our hair in
rollers with a big scarf over the
top. When you travelled on the tube
like that, people would say, she's a
model! I think that's what they
From modelling, you broke into
acting. Was that a difficult
I'd always liked acting
at school and I felt since I was
seven I was going to be an actor. I
footed all the modelling money away.
I did say to anybody thinking of
becoming an actor, are you facing
poverty in the eyes now? You will
never make money as an actor, but it
was exciting, it was what I wanted
to do. Scrabbling my way into films
and then television and then ending
up on stage.
And when you were in
the convent School, was that all the
Sure. And also to wear red
lipstick and drive around in an open
top car, initially! I was doing
Latin and German and Italian and
French and all these sorts of things
but what I wanted to do was to leave
Talking of those hard times,
the modelling and acting, there was
a very important role, when you were
in Coronation Street. And that came
at just the perfect time.
absolutely skint and I was brought
up to Coronation Street to be the
girlfriend of Ken Barlow. And he was
going to ask to marry me! I could
have been in Coronation Street for
15 years! But I turned him down. I
said, I can't turn him down, he is
Ken Barlow, he is the nation's
heart-throb, and his wife has just
been killed by a hairdryer!
know your character Patsy from
Absolutely Fabulous. Did that change
your life in terms of the acting
roles and opportunities?
great because I was allowed to be
ridiculously funny and just
entertaining, really. I think it is
the one I might lurch back into if I
had to revisit our rail, Patsy. --
revisit a role.
Tickets for your
show, is all about me, are on sale
right now. You've given people a lot
about the plan, it is out next
October. Even the very best of us
have moments of doubt occasionally.
Confidence seems like something
Joanna has plenty of,
but even the best of us
have moments of doubt.
Sir Paul McCartney admitted today
he still has nightmares
about gigs going wrong.
A new survey has
been questioning why
people feel insecure,
and Iwan's been to Salisbury
to get some answers.
The year is almost over. A new study
has shown that out of those 365 days
we spent 120 feeling insecure and
not Coggan and four guys, it is 84.
Why are we feeling insecure or?
We're in the medieval city of
Salisbury. I'm inviting people to
tell me their worries in my the one
show Doubt hang-out.
feel insecure about? Body image,
with pressure from society, images
on social media.
I've just bought my
first house. Congratulations. It is
doubtful, but it is exciting.
around, I question myself, I
question what my kids are doing,
what I am teaching them, how am I
setting a good example to them.
it comes to doing work, doing jobs,
I can't really believe in myself.
need to make sure that I take my
professional life away from the
family because of the nature of my
work. To make sure that that work
doesn't follow me home.
If your work
colleagues think you're doing a good
job, how can you change your
Maybe it is just Ashley
said I can believe in myself and
have a positive attitude. I can do
it, I am good, man! You can be a
success! Think that a lot of things
will get any quite easily. Usually
money. And a lack of.
enough money to go around.
bills and mortgages. Everything
going up in price, and my pension
not going up in price. And just
trying to manage everything.
stressful. How can you keep that
negativity out of your mind?
just realise that we're all
different and we all have different
body and shapes. We're all unique
20 years ago I had a
nice six-pack but now... I am not
half the man I used to be.
It is the
best way for me to control my
anxiety is to go to kick boxing.
don't want you taking out your
anxiety on me!
You are safe!
doubt talking helps with the
confidence. It seems that even when
you have your close friend Jennifer
Saunders beside you, you lack
confidence, jumping into a big vat
of grapes to make some champagne.
There have been some crazy talk that
we had been asked to do this.
would have been a ghastly silence
around the room!
And one really serious pensioner,
plunging about in pants!
like great fun.
They really puffing
and panting. We did pick the grapes,
though. We did help unload them. It
is a fascinating process.
Champers it is called. We can't tell
you when it is on. Around Christmas.
Now we know millions of you have
been enjoying all the amazing
slow motion photography
in Blue Planet 2
so we thought we'd send
One Show cameras out to capture
something a little closer to home.
Here's how British woodlands tidy up
after themselves in the autumn.
Autumn. Across the UK, death is the
theme and nowhere is that more
visible than in our ancient
woodlands. The colourful leaves
array last hurrah before they were
there and drop. On the forest floor,
something is growing. This is the
time of the mushroom. Funghi are
neither plant not animal. With over
3000 species in the UK, the command
their own kingdom. They are so
numerous that one gram of woodland
soil can contain 1 million
microscopic funghi. With poetic
names such as the Amethyst deceiver,
and the Devils snuffbox, they have
captured the imagination of authors
and poets for decades. Most of the
time they go unnoticed, hidden
amongst the leaf litter as strands
finer than human hair spread along
the forest floor, helping the
decomposition and recycling of
nutrients from the dead leaves and
other organic material. Although
they may look enticing, many funghi
are poisonous. This is the
quintessential mushroom out of the
fairy tale. It's rich red cap is a
warning that it contains
psychoactive chemicals which cause
hallucinations. Perhaps it is not
surprising, then, that pixies and
fairies are hope -- are thought to
make their homes beneath them. The
main use of the visible body of the
fungus is to reproduce. The stink
worn emits a chemical that smells
like rotting flesh which attracts
all sorts of lies, then spreads its
spores further afield. This funghi
protects its spores with a tough cap
delivers fully grown, then it breaks
open to give its name, the Earth
Star. The soft inside releases a
puff of spores whenever it is
touched by raindrop or blown by
wind. Each mushroom can release
millions of spores into the
environment, ready to germinate once
conditions are correct. Once the
mushroom's job is done, they
disappear. They become part of the
life cycle of the woods once more.
The woodland continues to close down
for the year. The forest floor,
ending his last firework display of
the magical, mystical mushroom, as
we get ready for winter.
We have been delivered a
pile of Purdie haircuts. Which is
This was Suzanne
when she was younger. This is Val
Doonican. This one from Cheshire.
She went to a friend 's wedding, and
everyone thought it was the bee's
knees, and it was, darling! Here is
Jenny sporting a Purdie from 1975.
And this is Annabel from Nottingham.
She has kept this since 1975.
are three sisters, Arena, Judith and
Brenda, or with PUrdey haircuts from
Al Murray and Stephen
Tomkinson will be
here, plus Pete Tong
and the Heritage Orchestra will be
performing - see you at 7pm.
Joanna Lumley is in the studio to tell Matt Baker and Michelle Ackerley what secrets she will be spilling on her first ever live tour. Kevin Duala visits Borth Zoo to see what is next for the owners after they lost two lynxes, and Shane Richie takes viewers on a tour of his childhood home.