05/02/2016 The One Show

There was that swing to the left, followed by that huge swing

to the right, and then there was that enormous U-turn.

At least nobody lost their seat - eh, Jeremy?

Hello and welcome to The One Show, with Alex Jones.

And for his first time on this side of the sofa -

the only man we know who's mastered both the salsa and the swingometer -

APPLAUSE Thank you, everybody. So lovely to

have you here. We've waited such a long time.

You've just been in Glasgow filming Eggheads.

67 shows in two weeks, about five per day. Those quiz people who

answer everything, you always want them to lose. What is the trickiest

question of the season. The trickiest question we had, I think

the best question, what's the name of the purple Tellytubby? Hang on...

Tempo Mac? Tinky Winky. Correct. Two questions for you.

Which singer with an animal-inspired name will be performing her

What was Angellica holding earlier today that got her this reaction?

I've just had my lunch! I'm sorry, I apologise. I can't answer that.

We'll find out later on - but a little clue -

it does relate to our guests tonight.

They're two of the stars of the sensational drama that's

managed to bring Russian romance to sunday nights.

From War And Peace, it's Princess Marya and Sonya,

aka Jessie Buckley and Aisling Loftus!

APPLAUSE The Other

I don't normally get starch starstruck, but I am a bit tonight.

I've been watching this series and these episodes have been insanely

popular. Is the popularity a big shock to you? No. Good answer. I

think it's really great. I was a big fan, did not want to watch it in

advance or I've been watching it on a Sunday, and I've just been crying.

Not just at myself, but with Paul Dano, when he tumbles away with the

bomb, you know. I love it. I suppose it's because you haven't seen the

battle scenes. We just did piece, they did war. Very powerful. We will

talk all about it throughout the show tonight.

News this week that our roads could soon start to look very

different indeed - as research suggests that removing

the white lines would make us drive more slowly.

Good news for road safety - bad news for the men who make

But just who are these middle-of-the-road artists, anyway?

They cover thousands of miles of road every day, helping is get from

a to B and keep the traffic flowing. They are the heroes of the highway,

the white linemen. Dan and his apprentice, Dan, or the double Ds,

the white linemen. Dan and his as they are known in the job, set

How long have you been aligned off their

How long have you been aligned painter for? Six years. What were

you doing before that? Bricklaying, but the building trade went

downhill. I had some friends who did this job, they told me about it and

it looked interesting. Still get satisfaction of a good job at the

end of it. Not a lot of variety, walking forward and painting lines.

Have I got that wrong? Yeah, there is a skill to it and it's quite

artistic. You have different designs and features. When you are doing

this, what are you thinking about? what I will have for dinner!

Wondering what the wife is up to. Are you happy to be out there on the

road? It can be quite dangerous. You don't always have the Road closed,

so you think, am I going home tonight? It dries in second, what's

the worst that can happen? Spelling something wrong. In my second year

working here we spells entry wrong twice in a row. Did you get a lot of

stick? I kept it quiet, didn't tell anybody. You sneakily went back and

changed it around so it was spelt correctly? You got away with it?

Yeah, I got away correctly? You got away with it?

people don't see this hard work. It's quite technical, you don't

people don't see this hard work. what's behind you all coming

forward. It's a job you are quite passionate about, but if they

decided to take away the white lines, you could be out of work.

They are there for safety reasons. You need the white lines to see

where you are going, how fast the roads are. It would be crazy to get

rid of them. I enjoy it, job satisfaction at the end of the day.

rid of them. I enjoy it, job You are driving around at the

weekend with your friend or partner, and you think, I did that!

I was watching that and thinking, Jessie, that's about as far away

from a job as an actor as you can get. I've actually done that!

LAUGHTER In my spare time I like to paint

white lines. It's quite artistic and creative.

The final episode of War and Peace is on Sunday -

before we speak to Jessie and Aisling, let's remind ourselves

A line each on your characters. Jessie first. I played Princess

Marya, the daughter of the prints, and she's in quite an impressive

relationship with her father, played by Jim Broadbent. As the story

progresses, she goes to ups and downs but finds strength and

happiness towards the end. Don't give it away! I play Sonya, and

she's the poor cousin who lives within the family, and she's madly

in love with her cousin, Nikolai. In the last episode, Nikolai makes

contact with Marya and we have a hint of a love triangle. I'm not

going to spoil it, it's always the man who makes the trouble! It's

going to get exciting. Maybe I should go like this. Everybody

should watch to see how it unfolds. Let's see where we are in terms of

that love triangle. I will never give you up, ever. We

will be married to no matter what anybody says. I'm not in a position

to promise you anything. I don't ask you to. I think you should consider

his proposal. I'm in love with Sonya and I want us to be married. I love

her. It's strange things turn out

sometimes, isn't it? Yes, it is. STUDIO: Yellow like it's too late,

Leo Tolstoy has written it, but I don't think either of you should

trust Nikolai, I think he's winding you both up. Our Sonya and a rear

set to collide? We can't tell you. -- and Marya. Jessie, when I see it,

you are often crying in it. I know that on set they call you Tears On

Tap. I would like to point out that I was one of the happiest people on

set. I go from bursting out laughing to crying. That's what the job

description requires. Do all actors have to be at to cry at I've seen

how some people get themselves to cry. They get out the vapour rub and

things like that. When you see somebody do that, you think, you are

not proper, you are phoning it in. You didn't go to drama school, did

you? I suppose it's all about, something like War and Peace, and we

had Lily James and James on before Christmas, and they talked about the

job of reading this epic book. It's all about feeling it, and that's how

you can get into the characters. Did you both get to the end of it? Of

the book? I've tried three times and failed. Did you read it? Yeah, I

did. It's like in school, yeah, yeah. I listened to some of it on an

audio book. I got to Russia and thought, I haven't finished it. So I

put it on double-time, double speed on an audio book. So I got through

the battles and stuff. Was everybody speaking in a Donald Duck voice? It

was a comic kind of twist to it. We look forward to the final episodes

on Sunday and it's been a joy to watch.

So, Princess Marya and Sonya's worlds are set to collide

Here's Gyles with the story of a donkey who had his day in court

and sparked an animal rights revolution.

This is the story of how one man not only made legal history by producing

a donkey as a witness in a British court, but was also the founder of

animal rights. In the early 1800 's, cruelty to animals was a common,

everyday occurrence, especially among London traders, who were

notorious for mistreating horses and donkeys. That was until an eccentric

MP by the name of Colonel Richard Martin, held himself up to ridicule

with the idea that animals could have rights too. But this wasn't

your typical animal lover. Peter Phillips was the biographer. Martin

was a champion due list of Ireland. He was known as hairtrigger Dick in

his youth. He owned the biggest estate in the British Isles, it's an

absolute wilderness right on the West Coast of Ireland. He lived in

the middle of it, to put 30 miles of bog between him and various

creditors. On the other hand, he was a great celebrity and orator in

Georgian Society, a speaker in the House of Commons and a personal

friend of the Prince Regent. Despite his sharpshooting and sharp tongued

reputation, Martin had a softer side. Animal rights were

In 1822 he succeeded in pushing through the cruel treatment animals

act. He got the law onto the statute book, but it implemented? All the

animal rights in the world now stem back to that one piece of

legislation. Did the act have teeth? It wasn't long before it was put to

the test. Milburn, a fruit and vegetable seller, was accused of

cruelty to his donkey. -- Bill Byrne. During the trial it was

apparent that Tempo Mac had mistreated his donkey. But it was

apparent to Martin that his new law wasn't taken seriously. And that

Bill Byrne would be let off the hook. He led the beating and big

drag old donkey into the courtroom. The stunt was a success. The wounds

inflicted on the animal were plain for all to see. The judge finds the

man under the new Martin's law. The scene was immortalised in this

painting, and there was a song written about it entitled If I Had A

Donkey and it was heard bellowing from the musicals of the city.

Hairtrigger Dick was now humanity Dick. Despite this early victory, he

knew the job wasn't quite finished, especially when he saw the

conditions in Smithfield market, the largest meat market in London. David

is from the RSPCA. Every time he came to the House of Commons passed

here, he saw conditions hadn't improved, so he realised that you

couldn't just pass laws, you need couldn't just pass laws, you need

something to enforce them. That's why he set up the Society for the

prevention of cruelty to animals. Since the law was passed almost 200

years ago, millions of animals have been saved from the so-called wanton

barbarity that was taken for granted before. What do you say to that,

handsome? STUDIO: An amazing story -

and Gyles joins us now. Gyles, this isn't the only time

an animal's been called It happens now and again. The French

were particularly keen on bringing animals into court. A case in 2008

with a murder trial, witness to the murder of a woman was a dog. Two and

a half years later, the dog was brought into court, having been in

the room when the woman was murdered. The dog was on the witness

stand, and when he saw the accused, he barked furiously and wildly. Did

they believe him? The judge didn't believe it was conclusive evidence.

But did agree the dog was a good witness. The French are keen on

this. The accused was invited to weld a

bat towards the Labradors. One of the Labradors had been previously

attacked. The hope was there would be evidence - whichever Labrador

reacted would tell be evidence - whichever Labrador

They were not interested in French justice at this time. They did not

co-operate. Aisling, since I am sitting next to

you, can I accuse you since we are in court when it comes to animals of

perhaps telling a white lie to get this wonderful gig on War And Peace.

You and your horse riding. I did lie... Yes! Live television... The

judge and jury are watching now. What did you lie about? What did

they ask you at the audition when you filled out the form? I think

everyone tells the lie. You say you have loads of skills you haven't got

and then they work around it. I said I could ride a horse. And I

couldn't. And they like stood and someone was crouched beneath the

horse holding it for me. Can I say - you ride a horse brilliantly! You

couldn't until you got the job. I am a liar and a Aprilant horse rider!

-- brilliant horse rider. I have lied about riding a horse!

We have some pictures which are part of this story. You recognise that

wonderful creature. He's called Maruto. He's a monkey and that

picture was taken with a camera belonging to David Slater. The

monkey picked up the camera and that is a selfie of a monkey. It went

viral. It went all over the world and David Slater made a lot of money

out of that charity and a charity, PETA, they felt that maybe the money

should go to the monkey - didn't he have a right in his own image? He

took the picture. The court ruled that the photographer owns the

rights because he owned the camera. Now photobombing by a donkey. We

have a man and his son aged three. They won a ?2,000 hole dai because

they were photobombed by that beautiful horse. The owner said, I

trained that horse to open its mouth like that and I should get a share

of the booty. In fact the judge, well the ruling is they are on

public land and they own the camera and the horse gets no rights. You

don't have a right in your own image. You two walking down the

street, I can take a snap of you, the picture belongs to me and not to

you. I cannot do that. That is the difference. That is a skill!

I have spoken to your wife, you can do it. You don't know that you are

doing it at the time. There is some gentle snoring going on - I will

bring you in the selfie next week! Sticking animals, Foxes will perform

for us shortly. First, an incredible film about some music of a very

different nature. Here is Richard Mainwaring with the story of a

pianist who claims the inspiration for her come positions came from

beyond the grave. Beethoven's Symphony No. 9, completed three

years before his death was to be his last - or was it? Well, not

according to a dinner lady from Balham in South London. It was in

this house in 1969 that the quiet and unassuming rosemary Brown came

to public attention. She claimed to be a musical medium, acting as a

supernatural scribe for hundreds of new works written by the long-dead

giants of classical music. In her prolific body of work, what she

claimed to be Beethoven's 10th and 11th symphonies. I was very nervous

of Beethoven. He looked very fierce. She was also in psychic tune with

other composers. Could this and other melodies really have come from

beyond the grave? I found that the composers are often with me when I

am actually shopping or doing some of the house work. One thing we do

know about her is she did have some piano lessons as a child.

Rosemary's works were committed to record and performed in public

across the country. She even played some of the more simple pieces

herself. I want to see what a modern concert pianist can make of her

music. I sent Cyril a piece of Beethoven's music as transcribed by

Rosemary, but without telling him where it came from. I think somebody

needs to have a solid background in understanding music theory to write

something like this. It is complete. It has that restlessness of

Beethoven. It is actually Rosemary Brown, who is a psychic. She claimed

that Beethoven wrote it through her. It was written through...

Extraordinary! I can not believe that, actually. That's... It is

really quite incredible. I did this is really nicely written.

It is beautiful and it is worth to be played. Yes, absolutely. In 1969,

her unique talent brought her to the attention of the BBC. A film

director, Peter Dawling got to know her well. There with me and the

soundman and cameraman and not laugh or giggle. She said I cannot

guarantee that Beethoven will come. So we were able to sit and wait. We

got everything ready, as I say - the finger on the button. Where in the

room is he? He's besides me. I hope he comes out on the cameras, but I

don't expect there's much hope. And you can hear him? I can hear him. It

is not like this is all in easy keys. Indeed. She was a genuinely

nice person, not trying to fool anyone and not trying to make any

money out of it. She was not interested in that. It with us the

talk of the news room. Peter's documentary brought worldwide

attention to Rosemary's peculiar talents and she won fans among

musicians. Uncomfortable in the spotlight she soon disappeared from

view. Rose marry Brown died in 2001. But there may be another explanation

for how this was creatured. An experts in creativity on the brain

explains. We absorb information from the world around us all the time. I

believe her talent was in music, not a paranormal one. If you think,

things go wrong. You have to let your none conscience control go on.

And people are amazed. It is clever. People should praise her for that

ability. It is a shame, in my opinion, that it is attributed to

Beethoven and not Rosemary Brown. That is more amazing. How is she

doing it? She's so nice and genuine. There's no trickery. She was

ordinary, so charmingly ordinary. We may never know how Rosemary truly

composed her music. What we do know is she left a body of varied and

prolific work for us all to enjoy. I believe Rosemary. I believe! What

other explanation? It is the ghost of Beethoven. We don't know that for

a fact, actually. On last Sunday's War And Peace there was an

unexpected appearance... It has been causing a stir in the press all week

long and we wanted to know what you thought. Here is Angellica. I will

ask the good people here if they are offended in anyway. I was thinking

that War And Peace was much longer than that.

OK... He was born like that I would probably have quite enjoyed that. It

is a human figure. It is inappropriate. It is all about art.

I have nothing against it. It is inappropriate. Why? Because children

want to watch that then you show go want to watch that then you show go

to channels where you want to watch it. It does not bother me. If you

understand the book you would understand that is contextual. I

would not want to see a boy or a girl like that. I think it is too

much. Been brought up Vy to say anything after the watershed someone

can be naked and swear, whatever else. I thought the purpose of the

9pm watershed was so show things you would not show beforehand. I have

just had my lunch! I apologise. Is it deshl that it is passed

without a -- terrible that it passed without a flinch in my house? What

was it like in the locations? What was the thing? It was a moment. A

bit of nudity. Nothing to worry about. Sorry!

Lily when she came on talked about how amazing it was to fill in the

opera house in St Petersburg and the rest of it. What were your

highlights? For me it was where they shot the beautiful ballroom scene

and they had an orbing chest from the opera house. I had nothing to do

with it. I was like crying, I am like, oh, my God, I am part of this.

I was fascinated by the battlefields where so many soldiers, were they

all CGI-ed? They were in training camp when we were filming in

Lithuania, there was hundreds of lads. We look forward to the final

one on Sunday. That is all we've got time for. Matt and I will be back

next week with Stephen Fry, Cuba Gooding Junior and Ben Miller.

Foxes is playing us out with her new track Amazing.

# It keeps letting me down # I know

# With you tonight # It will be amazing

# Be amazing # I'm scared to death

# Still I'm stood here waiting # Here waiting

# What you want # Do what you want

# Take a hold of me # Do what you want

# Cause my heart keeps saying # Do what you want

# That you're All I Need # All I Need

Should be running away tonight # I should be finding a place to

hide # But I'm starting to feel alive

# And I know, with you, tonight could be

# Oh, should be running away tonight # Should be finding a place to hide

# But I'm starting to feel alive # And I

# But I'm starting to feel alive could be

# I know # With you, tonight could be amazing

# I'm scared to death # Still I'm stood her waiting

# Do what you want # Do what you want

# Take ahold of me # Do what you

# Take ahold of me # My heart

# Take ahold of me # Do what you want

# You're All I Need # All I

# You're All I Need A touch will bring me back to life

# I'm rising