05/07/2012 The One Show


05/07/2012

Ed Byrne joins Matt Baker and Alex Jones in the studio. Lucy Siegle goes slug hunting in Chester, and Anita Rani discovers the cottage industry of the 21st century.


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Tonight on the The One Show, why Welsh farmers started cross-

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dressing. We ask if it is ever possible to love slugs.

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Hello! Welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones and Matt Baker.

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Tonight's guest is not just a stand-up comedian. He is a Star

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Trek nerd, explorer and a budding volcanologist.

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But, above all of that, he is a father for the second time. Massive

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congratulations for the second time. What did you call him? He is called

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Magnus. So, two children under two, so my wife and I have not said a

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pleasant word yet! It is bound to get better.

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It nice to be here, anywhere but my house.

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Well, missing bath and bedtime. Assuming neither of you start

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crying! Well, we are having bad weather, the summer is awful, but

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it is nothing compared to you and Andy driving across Siberia. How

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cold was it? That was the latest project? Yes, it was, with World's

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Most Dangerous Roads. The coldest it got with minus 52 Celsius.

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To be honest with you, when you know it is going to be that cold,

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it is dry cold, you are wrapped up against it, I have been in Glasgow,

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Dublin, where it has been about one Celsius and felt colder.

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You are miserable. Is there a story of farmers wrapping their cows?

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the cows have to wear bras. What? It stops the udders from

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freezing. They freeze and break off when you try to milk them.

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So they clip them around the back of the cow? Yes. Where a cow's

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teats are, it is more like you are wearing a thong. It makes you

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realise, as Andy says, all of the cows here are wandering around

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topless! I think it would take up in the north-east, for the cows,

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that is. Well, all of this weather is great

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for one things, slugs. The numbers have reportedly doubled in the damp

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spring, but do you like them or loath them? Let's find out once and

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for all. Now, pro-slugs is George McGavin,

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he is going to explain why we should all hug a shrub. Hup against

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him, the man's whose first job was as a gardener, and studied

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horticultural, slide forward, Ed Byrne! Look at that, but before

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they slug it out, Lucy goes slug- hunting in Chester.

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Slugs have to be one of the least popular creatures in the UK. They

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are up there with cockroaches, leeches aprats, but I cannot recall

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anyone being hurt by a slug, so why do they have such a bad press? Are

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you a fan of the slug? I hate them! I couldn't eat a whole one! They

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make me feel sick! How does it feel? Slimey and Minging. Oh!

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can get a good idea how much we hate slugs by taking a quick look

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in a hardware store. We wage war against slugs in this country, look

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at this weaponry here, there is everything, contraptions, traps,

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jars for the parasites, but mainly we love slug pellets. British

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gardeners buy about 400 million every year. This year, the sales

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are going through the roof with the wet garden. It is mass slug icide,

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but is it really fair? To find out, I'm heading for a late-night slug

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safari with Britain's top slug export. If anyone has a soft spot

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for them, it is this man. This is the perfect time to go

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looking for slugs it is raining and moist. Also, the dauk s -- the dogs

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like to find them. Here is one.

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He is curled into a ball. Is that the light? That's right. When you

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shine the light on them, the top two tentacles are pulled in. The

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amazing thing about these guys is that the birds peck at the

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tentacles, then that tentacle, will regenerate within a week or two

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complete with a new eye. It is not just the eye, it is also the smell

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of these animals as well. If he were a snail that would be worth --

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where the shell would be. These are big ones? These are some

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of the larger ones in the UK, but we have extremely large ones, up to

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over a foot shrong. They are black slugs that dlrb up to a foot long,

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but they are black ones that can be found in ancient woods. There is a

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slippery customer. It is the Spanish stealth slug. It

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came into the UK in the easterlyy 1970s.

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So this is an invasive species and it is causing havoc? It is. It

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seems to wipe out the native species. That is having a knock-on

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effect to the rest of them. Does your love for slugs extend to this

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one? My love of slugs extends to those in the right place at the

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right time, this is an invaders. I am almost starting to feel

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sympathy for the home-grown British slug. The weather is not their

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fault. Looks are not everything. The guys have to eat, perhaps they

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are the good guys, afrl? So, are the slugs the good guys as Lucy

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said? We want to know what you say, but not before we have presented

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you with both sides of the argument. This is the general feeling in the

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studio. Peace, not pellets. We are excited

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about this. It is time to... "Slug It Out"! Yes, "Slug It Out"! George

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and Ed you have 30 seconds each to put your arguments across.

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George, you are up first. Slugs are not bad guys, they are

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good. They are snails without a shell and a bad PR agentment the

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majority of slugs are useful if the in the garden. They eat decaying

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matter, dead animal matter, dog dung. They are really not that bad.

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They are the food for countless animals, hedgehogs, birds, you name

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it, they eat it. The slime is amazing. It is used in creams, all

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sorts of things, bioengineering... Wait! What a fifpbish! What a

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finish! -- what a finish! What a absolute finish! Alright, Ed,

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you're up next. Let's go. Are you set to "Slug It Out"?

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Slugs eat salad, which is basically, I don't even like people who do

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that. Don't you think salad, your salad, if you were in a restaurant

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and someone got up from the table and started to eat your salad, you

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would be outraged! Why tolerate is a stomach that is a foot? The

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others that are underground are nibbling away at your bugs. The

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French don't even eat them. What does it say about an animal when

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the French don't even eat them. I'm with you.

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Just look at Luke's face there, munching on the lettuce! That is

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great. But whose side are you on, lettuce

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know! There we go! Now, if you have children and they move back to save

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a little bit of money it does not necessarily mean they are going to

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eat you out of house and home. Amongst the bags of laundry, there

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may be a very good business plan. There is a new kind of business

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that is booming. It does not have a High Street presence, it does not

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have a shop you can browse in, nor a massive workforce. It is the 21st

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version of the cottage industry, the boomerang kids. Right now about

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3 million young adults are returning home to live their

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parents. Many have returned from travelling or working, some have

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come back as they cannot afford to stay away, but many others are

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setting up businesses, the entrepreneurs of the future. Meet

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Lex. She is 24 and has started her first business, but with student

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debts of over �30,000, she's been forced to move back in with dad.

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The only way I cowl set up my business was to do it from home it

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would have been too expensive to rent and do this.

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Had you explored other options? banks basically would not come

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anywhere near me. I had no collateral.

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So what is the business? It is basically a catering company that

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we are starting at the moment, running supper club events.

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want to run the supper clubs from here? That's the plan. How are you

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going to do that? I'm knocking that wall down.

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So you have moved in and you want to knock the walls down? Yes.

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Lex and John has decided to help accommodate his daughter with her

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business. She has big plans of knocking the

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walls through, building a conservatory, you are funding this,

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do you mind? Not at all. Do you think you will get the

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return? Not in terms of money, but that is not that important.

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What is sn it? That she gets a good start in life. I always maintained

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once you have finished university, don't go tor a job for job's sake.

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You have 45 plus years of doing that. If you don't enjoy it from

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day one, life would be a bit of a grind.

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60% of new businesses are started from people's own homes. More and

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more young people under the age of 25 are becoming their own boss, but

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not all kids return home to start businesses. Some have little choice.

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Lex's friend Martha has debts and has now given up her flat in London.

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You are sacrificing so much. It will be difficult? It is. Giving up

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my independence will be difficult. I have been living away from home

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on and off for five years. So having my own personal space and

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giving it up will be a challenge. I have a lot of debt that I really

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need to get out of it. How much? My student loan is

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nearing �30,000. It is a heck of a lot of money to

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pay off? It is a really horrible burden to have.

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Almost a quarter of all parents report that children return home at

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some point in later life. Readjusting to living together can

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be a challenge. What about your independence? That

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is the one thing that young people crave? I really want to make a go

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of this. I don't think it is a sacrifice to go home and have a few

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rules in place it is general courtesy.

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So dad is not cramping your style and Lex is not cramping yours?

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Could you pull the plug and say enough is enough? I'm prepared to

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give this 12 to 18 months, assess where we are up to, if it is

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clearly not working, then, sorry, Lex, you have to work.

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Until the kitschen is ready, Lex is running the supper club from her

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dad's house and it is proving a big hit.

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The plan is to run the supper club. Then to get the produce into the

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shops and after that developing the catering business. I would like to

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move out of dad es in twoeers -- I would like to move out of dad's in

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two years, then return the favour. If you are lucky to have a

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supportive family and the entrepreneurial spirit, this seems

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like the perfect stepping stone for something bigger and better.

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There we go. Ed, you are part of the new series,

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World's Most Dangerous Roads. Every time I see this, I wonder why you

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put yourself in that position. You are not a a with a professional

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driver? No. No. We were driving. I am far from a professional driver.

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Well, you've only been driving for three years, so that's it in

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context. So you are not experienced, are you? No, and I failed my test

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the first time. So why set out on World's Most

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Dangerous Roads? Well, it is really interesting.

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At first we thought that they should be called the world's most

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incredible roads! We saw a part of Russia that even Russians don't see.

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It was built by slave labour. It is fascinating. It is right through

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the far wilderness of outer far reach of Russia.

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So, when somebody asks you to do that, you ask where do you sign in

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Well, as well as fascinating, it was dangerous, wasn't it? It was a

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bit. Here is a clip from Sunday's

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episode. You don't want to meet a lorry

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coming at you at the same time, do you?! Wow! What is horrible, when

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you get a wipe out, you want to stop completely, but then there is

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the chance that somebody will crash into you from the back. So you have

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to keep going, even though you can't see anything. We have a taste

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of how horrible this place can be, even on the widest, maintained part

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of the road. A lot of the road is a single lane.

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There was the last day of filming. We had gone on to a final stretch,

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a proper highway. We thought it would be plain sail, then the

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weather came in and the director was delighted! Yes, this likes

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dangerous! This is the coldest inhabited place on Earth? Yes, it

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was minus 72 Celsius, so the coldest ever reported there.

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So you have to think, it is also the place that is inhabited by the

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most bloody minded people! You did this trip with a good friend of

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yours, Andy? Andy, yes. How is the relationship now. It

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probably tested you to the limits? There is a bit where we get testy

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with each other, I start to finish his sentences, he does not like

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that. The most annoying thing about the show, the biggest hardship, you

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are driving eight to ten hours a day, and putting on the stereo on,

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well, we could not do it! To me, eating rain tear, sleeping in tents

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at minus 52 Celsius, but not being eight to put on a bit of AC/DC,

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that was a crime. Well, that is on Sunday the 8th

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June on BBC Two. Now, if you entered the garden of

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the Fawlty Towers, you would expect to find at least a little bit of

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Basil! Basil?! Get it, oh, goodness me. Well, there is so much more to

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Prunella Scales's garden, as Christine Walkden found out. She

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has a bit of a thing for a certain colour scheme.

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I can't think of a more homely welcome at this time of year than

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the curtain of wisteria framing the front door.

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This particular homely welcome belongs to actors, Prunella Scales

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and Timothy West. They have been crossing the threshold for more

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than 40 years. It was a tall plain house. There

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was not a creeper over it. I'm a freak for cladding, you know.

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I said I would love to grow wisteria. I don't like mauve, so I

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had white wisteria and the yellow and wait house. You can't sit out

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front. It is a busy road, so I used to grow the vegetables there, but

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people would nick the beans from the bus-stop. So that did not work

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very well. Now it is just herbs. I don't mind the oing sprig of mint.

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We are -- mind the odd sprig of mint.

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We are sitting in the conservatory. Surrounding by pictures of their

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many character roles, including the Queen and the legendary lady, the

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Queen of Fawlty Towers. I think that people are surprised

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when they meet me, I am not a bit like Sybil Faulty, you know what I

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mean? Do you enjoy gardening? much so. I love it.

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Does Tim help you? Oh, yes, his main job is fertilising the plum

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blossom. He uses a make-up brush of mine and he goes, "Buzz, buzz,

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buzz." I don't know where he read about this, but the first time I

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said he was rubbish. That, almost, we had a crop of plums after that,

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the like of which, you know, so he has done it every year, ever since.

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You have a lovely secluded secret corner there.

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Through there is the Prunella Rose. It is not even my favourite colour,

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but it was very kind of them. The one we have had here has been in

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for many years, it is doing so well now.

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This is an established and personal garden, much of it planted by

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Prunella herself. Including this tree, now so high it towers over

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the house. What do you think that the garden

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says about your personality? don't know.

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I like quite a... I have no idea what I am about. I am employed to

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play other people and find out what they are about.

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I think it reflects a person of terrific calmness and an undertone

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of serenity, is that you? No, I think I am probably quite agitated,

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but I think that the garden is therapeutic in that way.

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There is nothing blue about this garden, and I mean nothing blue.

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The colour scheme from the front of the house is continued with the odd

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splash of rogue pink. I was warned before I came that you were very

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much a white and yellow person. So I have brought you a little present.

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A special present. This is Prunella Albert. It is a ground cover plant.

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Thank you very much. That is lovely. I didn't know it was a plant and it

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was white. This is a white form, there is a

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purple form, but we didn't choose that.

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Lovely. To grow plants and see the results

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is very creative, and also very medicinal.

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Absolutely. Lovely. That is alright that garden.

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I like it. What would your garden reveal about you, Ed? That I have a

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gardener! You have a gardener? look at my garden and you think,

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there is no way he did this. Now, we are seeing you a bit of --

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more on telly this week? You are going to be on Volcano Live? Yes.

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Yes, I get to go to Bristol! Well, Bristol was still exciting, here is

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you recreating a supervolcanic eruption.

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First, put the gear on. I like the idea of taking my glasses off and

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putting on glasses that are own just slightly more nerdy.

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I am pouring the liquid nitrogen in. It is bog to cause an explosion.

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Let's retreat to a safe distance. Wow! Now, there's a supervolcanic

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eruption! That was beautiful! APPLAUSE

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Wow! I love the way she jumped! She knew what was going to happen, she

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leapt! So, what have you learn bad volcanos? Well, the most

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interesting thing, without being too technical is the fact the

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reason why some of them explode is that there is gas dissolved in the

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magma and it literally is like taking the top off a fizzy drink. I

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didn't realise it was part of the reason for the explosiveness.

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everybody can learn more, Volcano Live starts Monday at 8.00pm on BBC

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Two. Now, what do you say would be scarer? An angry group of men or an

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angry group of women? As a stand-up comedian, I would say the women.

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Well, in the 19 hundreds, Welsh farmers found a way to vent their

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anger over toll roads. They did it all wearing frocks.

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These days, travelling freely on country roads is En for granted,

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but in Wales during the 1830s, it was a very different story. One

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that features men in women's clothing.

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Back then, many Welsh roads were controlled by private companies,

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with toll houses like these. To use the roads you had to pay.

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Corruption was rife. So this here is a typical toll

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house? It is. There would have been hundreds of houses like this, all

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across south and west Wales. And the tariffs are clearly spelt

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out? No choice. For every horse six pennies. That was a substantial

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amount of money. The farmers, the land holders would not have that.

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Look, for things even like lime, two whole pennies. They desperately

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needed lime to fertilise the land. Without that there was no crops. So

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they knew where to hit it was real exploitation. It really was.

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did people feel about this? they hated it. They absolutely

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hated it. These gates, this was the turnpike gate. This was a symbol of

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oppression. To the ordinary farmer, this was hated. People despised

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them with a vengence, they really did.

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Pushed to breaking point by poverty and bad harvest, a gang of men

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eventually snapped in an unusual way.

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In 1839 they destroyed a toll gate, dressed as women.

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It sparked a blaze of cross- dressing attacks in West Wales,

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called the Rebecca Riots. Phil, I understand the hate red

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towards the toll gates, but I'm not sure about the cross-dressing

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thing? It is unusual. If you examine it goes back to the days of

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rural Wales, when if people had transgressed, committed crimes, the

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villagers dealt with this themselves. They put the

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transgressor on it a wooden horse, then they dressed up in women's

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clothes and paraded them. The idea being to humiliate them. It was

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meant to symbolise that the world had turned upside down and the

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other thing, of course, it is a great disguise.

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There is something unnerving about seeing grown men heavily armed in

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dresses. I would not mess with them! Rebecca! The raids took on a

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symbolic nature, with mobs chanting Rebecca as they attacked the toll

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gates. What is the significance of

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Rebecca? Well, we think it is biblical. This is a Bible. It is a

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typical Welsh family Bible. If you look in Genesis, it says, "And they

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blessed rebeba and they said to her -- Rebecca, thou art her sister, by

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thou the mother and let thy seed possess the gates that hate them."

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So there it is in print, God's omission to break the gates. God is

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on their side. Over the next four years, the mobs led hundreds of

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attacks with the authorities powerless to prevent them. The

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plight of the Welsh farmers reached the London press. The Government

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was forced to make reforms, tolls were halved. Victory for the

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Rebeccas. People power helped to beat an

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unfair system. It is amazing what a man can do when he stands up for

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himself, in a dress. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.

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You were over the moon that story was on today? We did a musical

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based on the Rebecca Riots in our school. Did you play a gate?

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but I was a crowd member! Just as bad.

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OK yes had a huge response to the slugs. Lots of people are against

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them. Mali says that theyate her plant that she bought with her

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pocket money, she is aged ten. But I'm on the good slug side, this

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one say says here, because they eat dog pooh.

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Ed Byrne joins Matt Baker and Alex Jones in the One Show studio. Lucy Siegle goes slug hunting in Chester, Anita Rani discovers the cottage industry of the 21st century, Angellica Bell finds out how cross-dressing Welsh farmers rebelled against toll charges and we have a nose through Prunella Scales's garden.


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