06/06/2016 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker...

Later in the show, with milk prices at a seven-year low,

we'll meet the farmer who has found an ingenious way

The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, will be here in the studio

to share his thoughts on plans for a permanant memorial

And we'll be hearing for the first time from people whose lives

Tonight's guest is an actor who has swapped Life on Mars for a life

chasing ghosts in South Carolina - please welcome Philip Glenister.

Welcome. Good to see you. Glad you got the blue memo! I was going to

say. We all have a touch of blue. We are talking about Muhammad Ali

tonight. This just gives you an idea of the size of the man. This is the

actual size of his fist. Punch me! Just hold your right hand up there

and you get an idea of the size of it. Turn it around to get the

comparison. Well. That will do use some damage!

If you were lucky enough to meet Muhammad Ali,

Send them to the usual address, and we'll show as many as we can

There's a new drama on BBC One tonight featuring the real-life

story of Reg Keys, whose son Thomas was killed

Kevin Duala went to meet him ahead of next month's publication

Reg went on to stand for parliament against Tony Blair.

For the families of those who lost their lives in the war,

this document signifies an end to years of waiting

Like many of the families of the military personnel who died in Iraq,

Reg Keys has found -- has spent 13 years fighting for answers, answers

which he hopes will be in the Chilcot Report. Hopefully, this will

be a closing chapter of the whole, sorry story of Iraq. In June of that

year, Reg's son Tom, a Lance Corporal in the Royal Military

Police, was killed in Iraq, four days before his 24th birthday. What

was he like? He loved his sport. The perfect son. He had this exuberance

of youth. He turned his eye towards his -- towards the army. Can you

remember what you were doing when you receive the knock on the door?

Two men in suits walked through the farm door. I just stopped. I started

to go cold. A chill pervaded my body. And he said, and I remember

his words, Mr Keys, I regret to inform you that Tom was killed this

morning in Iraq in the line of duty. What information did he give you at

that moment in time? That they were visiting a police station, that it

was surrounded by a mob, and they were all killed. The more Reg

learned of the run-up to the attack in which Tom and his five comrades

died, and how he had been equipped to do his job, the more angry he

became. 25 personnel were policing an area the size of Northern

Ireland. They had been sent to a hostile town with 50 rounds of

ammunition and no communications. They should have had a satellite

phone. They were denied that, and that is a disgrace. Our reasons for

entering the war in Iraq is also called into question, particularly

the claim that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. What

was going through your mind when you found out that there was no weapons

of mass destruction found? I was already a very angry man when I

found out the nature of my son's death, and that the Army board of

enquiry has said that the deaths could not have been prevented. And

then there was the announcement that no weapons of mass destruction had

been found. Reg demanded answers from Tony Blair with no success. I

had met him earlier at a memorial service for the fallen in Iraq. I

had a brief chat before being ushered away by a minder. He owes me

at least a compensation. I gave my son. In the 2005 general election,

registered against Tony Blair in his Sedgefield constituency. I was an

angry man. Tony Blair, you misled me, you misled Parliament and you

misled troops who gave their lives. So I am coming after you. What was

the one thing that kept you going? Justice for Tom. I thought that that

that cannot lie in his grave. I thought it was a total injustice.

Tony Blair has consistently denied any... He lost the election in 2005,

but Reg had the opportunity to share the stage with the former Prime

Minister. Sent to war in extremely controversial circumstances. I hope

in my heart that one day the Prime Minister will be able to say sorry.

We are in front of the world's media. Now, he's got to listen.

Commissioned in 2009 and led by Sir John Chilcot, the Iraq Inquiry

report will finally be published on July the 6th. All eyes will be on

Tony Blair, or at least, Reg's. What would you like to find out? As far

as I'm concerned, Thomas died for nothing. He died for a false. And I

hope that Sir John... Although he cannot apportion blame, I hope he

can point the finger for accountability. As for the families

of the 179 military personnel to die in Iraq, Reg doesn't believe that

Sir John Chilcot's report will be the end of their story. It has been

very tiring for me and the other families involved, but I would like

to ask Sir John is it was deemed appropriate, if the families could

take any legal action. Maybe it isn't the final chapter. It will be

very interesting to see what the reaction will be after July the 6th.

That footage there, to see him standing in front of Tony Blair,

saying what he wanted to say. And he didn't flinch.

You can see Reg in a BBC drama called Reg, which will air

tonight at 9pm on BBC One, featuring Tim Roth and Anna Maxwell Martin.

I was driving into London last night, and I could see your face

plastered on a billboard! Your new TV project, Outcast, is all about

the supernatural. You are not quite a ghostbuster, but nearly. I am a

reverend. There I am. It is set in a fictional small town in West

Virginia, and it is about eight townsfolk who are sort of plagued by

this demonic possession going on within the town. The central

character is played by Patrick Fugit, called Karl Barnes. And he is

the Outcast? Yes, his mother was possessed when he was small, and I

was charged with performing the exorcism. We come together in the

series. We try to find out what is going on in this town. It is causing

problems with the townsfolk. We have the men, the chief of police, -- the

chief of police, and at first, you see me and the chief of police

having a game of cards in the back room of the church. As you do! That

is what appealed to you about the character. Yes, that is what

appealed to me. He has many layers. He is fascinating. He sees himself

as a soldier of God. He has given up everything for this cause, including

his own family. He is estranged from his wife and son. Through all this,

he is in denial of his own fault some problems. In many respects, he

is a broken person. This becomes obvious through the series. It is

set in the deep South and you filmed it in America. In South Carolina. It

was fun. I stayed in the accent while I was there, for the whole

time. You said you were quite cocky about the American accent. You said

that you could do it. I got slapped off by some person or newspaper who

was a dialect coach. I was doing a show in London playing an American

at the time, and I was in the middle of doing Gene Hunt, and what ever I

had done then, anybody would have said, no, he is Gene Hunt. When you

are surrounded by Americans and in America, it is easier to get,

particularly the regional accents. We all had to sound the same, so

even Pat trick, Reggie, and others in the show, we all had to have the

same dialect coach. We think it sounds brilliant. But everyone can

make their mind up. What ever happened to your mother, we should

have stopped it. My mother was sick. I didn't know much else about it. I

was just a kid. These things are everywhere. They are all around us.

You have no idea how bad it's gotten. You may not believe me, but

that doesn't make it any less true. Why don't we stick to what we know.

Before we blame the bogeyman again? What is behind the door? The body

man. You were living the part when you were there. Getting there was an

extra -- an interesting experience as well. Didn't you have to have an

on-screen chemistry test? With American casting, there is one

caster who does all of these films, and what you do is go on tapes for

the Americans and you send it across via e-mail and they have a look at

it. They liked what they saw, fortunately, so then I had a Skype

chat with Robert Kirkman, and Adam Wing guard, the director, and during

the course of the chat, I got a trip to LA! I said, why don't I just come

over for the weekend? They said, OK. Patrick was there being considered

for Kyle. I flew to LA and we did a chemistry test with Gabriel who

plays Josh were. He acted us both off the screen! That was it. Then

they said, do you want to do it? And I was like, all right. It is all

based on the supernatural world. Are you a believer? Have you had any

experiences? We had a brilliant story from Matt about his country

five filming. It was on Thursday night. I was up in a room up top,

and he went out to park the car, and there was a guy stood at the top of

the stairs. And then he put his car keys in the pocket and he walked up

the stairs and the man had gone. And there was only two of us there. And

then you picked up the bottle of whiskey and said, I've had too much

of this! And I used to do a milk round, and I saw a man sat under a

lamp post on a suitcase, and I said, mourning. And when I put the

meltdown, he was gone! And I've seen one in double denim, which didn't

look very threatening at the time! Double denim? It was our third date

and we nearly didn't get to our fourth. She was there. We pushed

through it! I wouldn't be seen with anybody in double denim! I can't

think that I've ever had. Back you have made me think now. I was

sitting on the fence. Who knows? Outcast starts tomorrow at 10pm on

Fox. Now a subject very close to my

heart. Figures released by Defra show that

milk prices are the lowest they've With 2,700 producers set to receive

just 19p per litre for the milk produced on their farm,

many have had to innovate I have come to a farm in the

Scottish Borders, where a fightback against cripplingly low milk prices

has begun. Jim has been farming dairy cows here all his life, like

his father and grandfather before him. It is a fantastic industry and

community to be involved in, but you cannot live it on fresh air. The

plummeting price of milk terrifies gym. The issue came to national

attention last year, when farmers started staging protests. Jim's deal

with the supermarket chain is better than most, but he was fearful that

prices can fetch could suddenly change. When you are a fifth

generation dairy farmer, it is terrifying. When you have the

failure will have to put the cows up. It is heartbreaking. Jim made a

radical decision and get this technology changing the family's

fortunes. Have a smell of that! What we do with that is collect it. There

is enough energy in there to fuel a village of 400 people.

The slurry is collected from the cows and goats into big tanks and

the bacteria works on it and the methane comes off. That is

disgusting! The methane fuelled an engine which turned a generator,

creating electricity which is fed into the grid. Job done. Now

presumably, to build this, you had to borrow a lot of money. You are

taking on a lot of debt so how much risk is involved? They want to know

your cash flows and due diligence that it will work and also security

so every million pounds that you borrow, they want ?1.5 million in

security. What about your family and your fellow farmers? Did they think

you were crazy? Yes, but that's not unusual! I'm not clever, I just

copied people, I went to Germany and I saw how it worked and I copied the

model that worked there and brought it here. The system also create

enough energy to power his run around! This is a Tesla and electric

car. Completely electric and it fits in well with what we're doing, we

produce a lot of liquidity so it is an extension to the system that we

can run this carb on almost free electricity and while it was

expensive, it is incredibly cheap to -- at this car. We do about 2500

miles per month, it adds up to about ?22,000 saving in a fuel in total.

Jim is making more money from muck than milk and hopes he will soon be

able to pay off his loan. Pay its self back in about six or seven

years but better than that, it is a good balance, if sustained jobs and

if you do that in a rural economy you sustain rural schools and post

office and the spin offs are endless. Certainly an interesting

idea but what a shame that it has come to that, for him to save those

cows that have been on his farm for generations. I believe it has got to

the point where it is utterly ridiculous and as a nation, we

should stand there and say, we are happy to spend a bit more on our

milk. I really do. APPLAUSE There are animals involved. You

explain this in detail to all of us in the meeting and I think if more

people heard the conversation we had, people would not mind paying a

bit extra. It is what we used to pay ten years ago. There is a recipe for

milk, it is for parts water makes one part milk. With that in mind,

how can water become more expensive? Anyway. Don't get me started! You

wanted to be a milkman? I did. I thought the hours were quite good. I

thought you would be finished by about ten in the morning and I would

have the rest of the day to go and play with my toys. It is an early

start. I didn't realise that. When you're young, you wake up early

anyway. We imagined it as we do here and this is what you might have

looked like. He only comes! I like the Dickie tie. That is a posh

milkman, where is that? Marlowe? Definitely Home Counties! We have to

say thank you to all of your pictures. We will look at them

before the end of the show. Tributes to Muhammad Ali have been

flooding in over the last few days, Those that actually knew him, he

really did touch their lives. Here are their stories. I have always

been a friend of Muhammad Ali. When I was living in Europe committee

came to Switzerland for a fight and I find out his hotel and I started

to take photographs from the outside. He was so glad to see me

because I was the only black photographer and he asked me where I

was from. I said Jamaica and he said, my name is Charlie! Of all the

time I spent with him, I never spoke to him about boxing. We spoke about

Jamaica. He is still a hero for me. I would write to him and put my

thoughts and feelings down on paper and send them to him. Occasionally

he would send a reply. He is one of my best friends. He invited me over

and he said, you don't need no hotel, I have room for you in my

home. I couldn't believe it. He stayed in my bedroom, I'm sleeping

on the couch! I would come down and have breakfast made, and he says,

you've got the Champ making new breakfast! He's the greatest fan of

all times! His hobby was the magic tricks. It didn't take long that the

Magic box came out and he showed as these disappearing handkerchiefs.

The greatest of all time! No, I will not go 10,000 miles

simply to continue the domination of white slave masters over the darker

people of the Earth. It was a complete injustice and he always

stood up for what he believed in. The title was taken because of my

religion. I received over 32,000 names and addresses, and I took

these letters to the American Embassy in London. The ambassador

ensured me that they would be on the desk of Nixon and they were. Thank

you for what you have done. That is what he said. He came round the

house and he asked if I wanted to do sparring. We went into the back car

in -- back garden and everybody is cheering, Ali! Ali! And somebody is

shouting Tyrone! He was wonderful, absolutely wonderful. Many of his

young fans sprinted miles to keep up with him. He came here to open the

Muhammad Ali Centre. I asked if I could make him the suit. When I was

fitting him, I said, Mr Ali, these sleeves are a bit short. We should

lengthen them both up he said to his security, he is no dummy, is he? He

told me I was the greatest! He was just leaving to go to the big

department store so I said, I got no transportation, so he let me share

his limousine with him will stop there were crowds of people, he just

took a liking to me and I was with him every day. In 1984, we haven't

to be watching a copy of Ali against former in the house and in the

middle of the fifth round, the phone went and it was my mother saying, it

is Muhammad Ali on the phone -- Ali against George Foreman. I thought

she was winding me up but it was him. There were tears in my eyes. I

says, you're not going to believe that, I'm watching you fighting

George Foreman on television. He said, who wins? Looking back, have

to pinch myself, it is fairy tale. It was very touching, very

emotional. Muhammad Ali was up there not just as a sportsman, as an icon,

because he did really motivate a lot of people like myself. You realise

he is a very truthful and honest person. Muhammad Ali had lived his

life in such a way, he deserves all the accolades he got because he is a

one-off Muhammad Ali is a one-off. We are joined now by the Mayor

of London, Sadiq Khan. We know that you are a huge fan of

his but why was he such a hero? All of us were smiling watching that.

You can't tell from my physique but I am into boxing! Do that with your

fist. I saw that! Both of us together. It's extraordinary. My

brothers are into boxing and my nephews, and he was a hero but not

just a boxer, a sportsman, an American, he was everything. A role

model, a poet, he was charismatic, charming. And we have to remember,

in the 1960s and 70s in America, it was not easy to be a black man. He

felt so strongly about the Vietnam War, at the time it was a popular

war but the said it was wrong and at the height of his prowess he did not

box for three years because he felt so strongly about it. He changed his

name. First joining the Nation of Islam and then become a mainstream

Muslim. He was a wonderful man. He touched people's lives and he was a

role model and he was the greatest. You want to put up a memorial?

People don't realise this but Muhammad Ali was in love with our

country. Outside of America, the city in which he fought the most was

London, Henry Cooper twice, Ryan London once. Henry Cooper put him on

the floor. Ali was shaken up and Angelo Dundee did at slip in his

glove to give him more time in between the rounds to recover, it

took two rounds for the next round to begin by which time he recovered

and knocked Cooper out. You can Google the famous Michael Parkinson

interviews as well. They were amazing. Towards the end when he got

really quite heavy with Parkinson, and Parkinson handled it amazingly.

Parkinson said it was the most amazing interview. And lovely

pictures of how he touched the lives of people. This has been sent in,

two brothers with Muhammad Ali in 1989. And this is lovely. David met

him when he was chairman of Basildon Council in 1986. And Leslie met him

and she frisked him! Dahmer's father-in-law met him in 1965 at an

exhibition fight in Glasgow -- Donna. And of course he was a Muslim

and would have been practising Ramadan. Today is the first day and

we are fasting, I notice you have four glasses of water! This isn't

ideal with the new job. You fast from dawn until dusk so you can't

drink, you cannot have any coffee, no food. Today the sun sets at

around 9:17pm. Is coffee the big thing? It is the thing I miss the

most. I used to have boring meetings but now they are exciting! But when

you have boring meetings, you need your caffeine. But nothing all day?

Nothing. How are you feeling? I was feeling a bit down but to be on this

fantastic show! It like a drug! We can give you some snacks to take

with you but then the sun goes down. A lot of people know that you are

fasting and they ask how you are doing and people take an interest.

The reason why I am miserable is because I'm fasting, what's your

excuse? LAUGHTER You can have a banter as well. But

you are settling in all right? I know you two love your job but I

have the best job in the world. London is a great city. And when you

go to America, they love our city. IMA preacher now. I thought your

accent was very good. It has been great to have you here.

Outcast is on tomorrow evening at 10pm on Fox.

And don't forget to tune in to Reg which is on tonight at 9pm

We'll be back tomorrow and we'll be talking to actress

Ashley Jenson and David Dimbleby.