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06/07/2011

John Barrowman joins Matt Baker and Alex Jones on the sofa to talk Torchwood and Tonight's The Night. Plus Dom Littlewood looks at how viewers can curb their fuel costs.


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Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.

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Tonight's the night we're joined by two guests. The first is an all-

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singing, all-dancing Saturday night dream-maker. The second is an

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immortal, alien-chasing captain from the 51st century. Yes, two

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guests but only one man. Who else but John Barrowman. Captain Jack

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very good friends with before who, but you have become a doctor

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yourself? Yes. Yesterday I got my honorary degree from the Royal

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Scottish Academy of Music and Drama. There I am. Very smart. Look at

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that. APPLAUSE

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The only thing I was disappointed about was there was no bling on it

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or sparkles. I said you some dazzle this for me. You were in a kilt.

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Did you go Commando? I certainly did. I - obviously, people send you

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the pictures, but there is one of me showing my aunt and uncle that

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was true Commando underneath. Like you really wanted to know that

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before you had your dinner. We'll talk to a maths genius, Professor

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Marcus du Sautoy and to prepare we have a challenge for you. In this

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jar, well, the question is how many beans are in the jar? We need your

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help. Have a good look. We have been told if we take an average of

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all the guesses that you send in, we'll get within a whisker of the

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answer. Do we believe this can happen? What if I eat them? That

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will spoil it. Can I take a big handful? I think we can do this,

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Britain. Send in your guess to us. We'll use as many as we can count

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by the end of the show. Dave is poised and ready with his abacus.

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This is going to be the hardest sum you've ever done, Dave. Good luck

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with it, my friend. Fuel bills. Now, they may not be such a worry in the

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height of summer, but it looks like more consumers could soon face

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massive hikes which will start to bite come the autumn. We have the

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best bloke to turn to when it comes to good energy price advice. Never

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mind Torchwood, we've got The sunshine is finally here. The

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heating's turned off so the bills are low, but now is not the to

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think they'll stay that way. We are on the verge of the biggest hike in

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three years and if you don't act now, you could end up paying a lot

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more money. Four weeks ago, Scottish Power shocked consumers by

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hiking the gas prices by a huge 19%. Electricity by 10%. It's not going

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to end there. The other five big energy providers are likely to

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follow suit. This is going to hit hard. You tilt companies blame high

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wholesale prices and the need to invest. �30 billion in energy

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infrastructure. What do you think about the prices going up yet

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again? I think it's awful, because it will affect the poorer people.

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Heating for old people is particularly important. Around one

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third of us pay our bills as and when they arrive through the post,

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but it's one of the dearest ways to pay, costing the average household

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� 1,131 a year. If prices rise by 20% that would go up by �226. The

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energy regulator, Ofgem is planning to shake up the companies. It wants

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them to rein in their bills and to simplify their tariffs. If you want

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to take control, one way would be to fix your for several years.

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Fixed payment plans work like a fixed-rate mortgage, freezing your

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tariff for up to three years. It means no price rises for that

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period. You are gambling that prices won't fall, but it will save

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most people money. We are expecting price rises so fixing now is

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definitely the best option. In my opinion, we'll save in the long

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term. Mark Todd co-founded a website which is one of 13 sites.

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You need a postcode of someone you know personally. Put the Queen.

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friend of mine. SW1 A1 AA. watches the programme. If you pay

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the old-fashioned way, the average yearly spend for a large property

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in central London is �1600, though it's a safe best for the Palace is

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a bit more. By switching to an on- line tariff you could save �300

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straight away, but that's still a variable rate and liable to

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increase. If prices rise your saving could be wiped out. If she

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wants to fix? She could spend about �1400 a year and fix it for one

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year and she could also get longer fixed prices, about �1500 a year,

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she could get a two-and-a-half year fix. The saving now of �100 could

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become �400 because they won't go up in price. Fixing does have the

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down sides. You'll have to pay an exit fee if you cancel before the

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end of the term and you might have to switch suppliers which can take

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six weeks to go through. How do you pay your gas and electric bills?

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pick up a phone and phone it through to my bank and my bank does

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it for me. You just do a transfer? Yes. Do you realise that's one of

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the post expensive ways to pay the bills? No. We have been in the

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place for 45 years and I'm stuck in my ways. You could fix your tariff,

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normally up to two-and-a-half to three years and it won't go up.

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Would that interest you? That would be a very good system, yes,

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definitely. I'll listen to you and do something about it. I like that.

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However much you are enjoying the warm weather, now really is the

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time to take control of those bills and I mean before your next

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barbecue or camping trip, because as the prospect of the hikes

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becomes much more of a reality, mark my words, those attractive

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fixed-rate deals with disappear quicker than the British summer.

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Dom, we have had some big news today that lots of people are

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describing as being in fuel poverty. What is that? We used to always

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associate that with pensioners, but what is happening now is obviously

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with the recession there are a lot of people who are in that group.

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What is defined as fuel poverty is when you are spending more than 10%

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of your income on your energy bills and then you are classed as being

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in fuel poverty. There are over six million people in this country in

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that bracket. They rock on if the prices come in at more than 10%

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that will double to more than ten million. The bad news also this

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week, Beko fridge freezers? We saw that story about the fire in the

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tower block. A lot of people thought it was lightning. It wasn't,

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it was a freeze freezer. The condensation got inside the timer

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unit and caused a malfunction and there was a big fire. This is the

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dangerous thing. There are still 500,000 still in existence. Beko

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have written to all the people they sold them to, but they were sold

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between January 2000 and 2006, so a lot of people will have had them

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and ownership might have changed. People need to check these numbers.

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On the fridge door where the hinges are you will see the model numbers.

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P they start with any of these -- if they start with any of these,

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they are the ones to worry about. People won't remember all of those,

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so look on our website or the company's website or the freephone

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number: That helpline is available 9-5? Yes. It is fridge freezers?

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Yes. There is a Beko fridge in my dressingroom here. I'm not kidding

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you. Dave, go and check it. We have checked the serial number! Scott,

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check the fridge at home. If you have any consumer problems while

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Dom is here, you have been reading more e-mails? We have been

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reporting about high street brands going into administration and lots

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of people are going to want to know about warantees. We have had a note

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from Keith. He had a Moben kitchen with a 15-year guarantee. The

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company has gone into administration today. Maureen she

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emailed because she had a bathroom fitted by Dolphin three weeks ago.

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They've gone bust. Those two companies are owned by the same

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company called Home Form and they own another company They are called

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Sharpz Bedrooms. You have to contact them. As for somebody who

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might have a guarantee I would say to people, if it's one of the

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companies -- company's own guarantees it's gone with the

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company. If it's underwritten by an insurance company you have to

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comeback. You might be kissing your money goodbye. We have a letter

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from Peter from Exeter and he ordered a garden bench for �100 for

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Focus and they've gone bust. This is the bad thing. He paid by debit

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card so he's almost certainly done his money. Had he paid by credit

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card and it's over �100 he would have had a slight claim. If he paid

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by visa debit he could claim back under the charge-back system. He

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needs to check with his card provider. He might well have lost

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all his money. Dom, you are back busting builders aren't you on

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Channel 5? Tomorrow. One of the programmes we are showing some of

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the builders who have been prosecuted as a result. One of them

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is from series one. That's David goi mer. He went to court -- Goymer.

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He went to court in January. He was found guilty and got a one-year

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prison sentence suspended because of his health, but the judge

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ordered a consfaition -- confiscation order to pay back his

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customers. It's really worth watching. Super job. Channel 5

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tomorrow night. If you need further information about any of the topics

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there are links on the website. Both wizards and mugles alike will

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be getting excited about the premiere about the final Harry

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Potter film tomorrow. Tonight, we'll perform some show wizardary

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and send one of the stars of the film back in time so she can tell

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us all about her chaild hood in Oxford. Ready? Oldhomeium

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Reminiscium. -- childhood in Oxford. Ready? Oldhomeium Reminiscium. I'm

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Miriam Margolyes and in 1941 I was born on the Banbury Road. I

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remember in one of these houses, along here, our doctor used to live.

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Dr Gction illett. He -- Dr Gillett. He was a Communist. It was always

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said quietly because it was a shameful thing then. It used to be

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so quiet here. Not all these cars going up and down. Even though the

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house was mine was a horrible little house when we lived in it,

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I'm very glad it's still here. My goodness, it's been smartened up.

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My mother hated this house. She always called it the hovel. It's

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small. I can't believe how tiny it is. Yeah, maybe it was this small.

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I feel I want to push the walls back. How my mother would have

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loved to have had it like this. I used to help mummy when she fried

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fish. I would hold the fish, which had been smeared with egg and dip

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it in the meal and mummy used to put it into the frying pan. We used

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to have olive oil because my father was a doctor and it was ractioned

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but because he was a doctor rationed, but because he was a

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doctor we always got more. It was I was terribly close to my parents.

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It was like fortress family. It was mummy, and daddy and me and that

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was it. Nobody else counted. I was like my mother and so for me, she

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was the one that eats my heart that she is not here. I wish she was

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here just to remember it all with me, you know, because it was so -

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she was so gallant and brave and powerful. She was the sun and the

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moon. They really were not well off and they sacrificed so that I could

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go to the high school that was and still is the best school.

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The garden. This is really where I was a child. I thought of it as a

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wilderness to play in. Now, it seems so small. I was innocent, not

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anymore. I was spoilt, but it was because my mother wanted the best

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possible life for me and so I grew up confident and loved and feeling

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that I could do anything. When I come back here and I think this is

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what I came from and I'm, you know, I'm strong and well and wealthy and

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reasonably successful and I think mummy would be very happy about

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that. # You haven't looked at me that way

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Ah, I bet your mum was really proud. I love the little trips down memory

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lane. You grew up in Glasgow. John, do

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you recognise this house? That's the house I grew up in Glasgow. It

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is. And that room on the left-hand side was my brother and our room.

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Weirdly, we don't have to look at it from the outside, we went

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through the door and there's your room!

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LAUGHTER And the bed is still the same.

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Look at the pillows. LAUGHTER

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Isn't that great? That's fantastic. You seriously went in that house?

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We went through the window! What is it that you love doing

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about the show? The thing that I love about it and the thing that my

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business partner and Gavin got together, the reason I wanted to do

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it and this is going to sound cheesy, but it is the truth. I'm

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someone who is living the dreams that I always dreamt about as a kid.

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When I grew up in that sparkly bedroom...

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LAUGHTER I always wanted to do something. I

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wanted to be an entertainer. I wanted to be in show business. I

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wanted to give something back. I want to do something good for

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people that made my dreams come true. It is a fantastic show. It is

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a fantastic thing to see the expression on people's faces. To

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see they are living out that dream. We are not out to make stars, we

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are to give them that moment in time they have always dreamt about

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and it is a joy to do it. You do a lot of it in disguise. Has

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anybody recognised you? We had a hit where I was disguised as a tour

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guide and I thought I was brilliantly disguised in a wig and

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everything and the person that we called the hit, they walked up the

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staircase of the double-decker bus and I tried to put on a phoney

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accent and she turned and went, "It is John Barrowman."

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LAUGHTER Brilliant.

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The hair and make-up didn't work. I had to play the truth that I was

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discovered. You have got some celebrity faces

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helping you out. We do.

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See if you can guess who this is playing a radio DJ who gets his

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guests mixed up. You think the coastline and the

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beaches are windier now than they used to be? Oh Mr Richards, are the

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coastlines and beaches, are they more windier now? Have you noticed

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more wind? Hang on, yeah, we will be right

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back. It is the weather. It is coming in. Two seconds we will be

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right back on BBC Radio York. I'm not Mr Richards.

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I felt so awkward. He was on to talk about his charity work and his

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history. We have some celebrity guests doing

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hits for us now. They don't know that you are coming in to do this

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and they don't know that you are going to surprise them so they

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believe that you are somebody else and you still feel really bad and

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you are really worried about it because you were really nervous.

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Yes, really nervous. But you did a really nice job.

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A brilliant job. You are such a busy man, Torchwood

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returns. Correct.

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On Thursday. It returns on Thursday, July 14th.

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An event will happen to planet earth where no one will die.

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It is called Miracle Day. It sounds like a miracle, but it is

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not really of a lot of bad things come out of that and it is how we

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as a society deal with it. It is dark. If you are into the whole

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Torchwood thing and you love Torchwood on Radio 4, there are

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three new radio plays prior to the event on Thursday. That's a build-

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up? Yes. They are nothing to do with the event on Thursday, but you

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get a week of Torchwood. Thank you.

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Yesterday we spoke about the allegations that a private

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investigator working for the News of the World hacked into murder

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victims' phones. Today David Cameron promised to

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set-up a public inquiry into the affair and momentum is growing

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behind an online campaign to boycott the paper.

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We went ut to ask if readers will be leaving it on the shelf this

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After what I heard about them, I would stop buying the newspaper. I

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would boycott it and look for real news.

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I don't think that's enough reason or good enough reason to boycott

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because of a few incidents that happened.

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If you can't trust the people you are reading then it is not worth

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buying. I don't know if I would buy the

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News of the World in the future. think I will be changing the the

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paper I buy from the the News of the World to another paper P They

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are committing a crime and by paying for the newspaper you are

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condoning it and supporting it, aren't you? I feel strongly about

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the hacking, but it is something to read on a Sunday. No, I probably

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wouldn't boycott it, no. Some strong opinions there. What do

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you think, John? I don't read the News of the World so that's it.

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LAUGHTER It is easy for you then.

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Summer Holiday Wildlife Watch Day Three.

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During their stay on the Scillies aisles, Mike and Miranda have shown

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the Collins family seahorses and and shrews.

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Today it is time for bird life. The Isles of Scilly are important

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for seabirds with over 20,000 breeding pairs of 14 different

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species found throughout the islands, but there is one bird that

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likes to arrive by stealth during the night. There is an amazing bird

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called the shearwater and every year thousands fly from Argentina

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and Brazil in South America to breed on the the Scilly isles and

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today we are going to track them down. Are you up for that? Yeah.

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These birds have beautifully evolved to life at sea they

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struggle to walk well on land. During the breeding season, they

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nest underground. This gives Vickie Heaney opportunity to monitor their

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population. And she has got an unusual way of counting their

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numbers. Have a look below you. What can you

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see? It is a tunnel. It is. It is a tunnel and hopefully

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there is a shearwater nesting underneath. We have a clever way of

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working out if the birds are at home or not? This is a tape

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recording of their call. We will play it and see what happens.

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If there was a bird down there incubating its egg, it might take

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that as a challenge. They lay only one egg a year which makes

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estimating their numbers easy. Have a listen to see if they respond.

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LAUGHTER Yeah.

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Give me five! We have a Manx shearwater that

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responded to Vicky's recording. We have one lying under Neath Olivia.

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How about that? It is making weird noises. I thought for a minute it

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was your tummy! It is estimated there are 200 breeding pairs

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The the Scillies have one of the lowest crime rates in the country,

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but during the summer campsites suffer from food thefts. We set-up

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cameras by the Collins' tent and caught a a thief red clawed. We had

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a hunch. Let me show you who it was. Oh look at him. Oh look.

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Last night he was rummaging in the plastic because I woke you up. You

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said, "Why didn't you have a look?" It is spooky in the middle of the

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night. Hedgehogs have only been on the

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Scillies since 198 0s, their population has grown to the point

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that they could become a problem to other wildlife as well as tent

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owners. They like to live here because they have a plentiful

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source of food. They do it through the year because they don't

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hibernate because it doesn't get cold enough here. There we go, it

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is Hodge hogs in the dead of -- hedgehogs in the dead of night who

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steal your food. Wherever you go in the Scillies,

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even when crossing on a ferry from one island to another, there is

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always a chance you can witness a wildlife wildlife wild spectacle.

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Look at these birds rafting together.

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There are only two places in the world where shags gather today.

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They feel -- they feed on fish which shoal together. There is not

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a single one left and the wings propel them underwater after the

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fish. They could dive down to 40 meters

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and spend just over a minute underwater feeding before they all

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emerges in a different spot. I have never seen that. I'm really

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chuffed actually, Patrick. There they go. They are over here.

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Tomorrow, there are more surprises in the sea as I help tag a less

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than co-operative predator from the deep.

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It has ripped through that bag with Tune in tomorrow for more

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adventures. It is getting exciting. Yes.

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Earlier we asked you to guess how many jelly beans were in the jar.

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Here to tell us what it is about is Professor Marcus du Sautoy. The

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beans feature in your new project called The Code.

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The Code is my new series for BBC Two. It is all about mathematics.

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Mathematics is the code which underminutes nature and we can

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understand why nature makes things the way it does. We can build the

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world around us. Everything depends on maths even Torchwood, I guess.

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Sure! LAUGHTER

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He is not so sure. Now the idea, Mark, you want the public to get

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involved and they can help out with a massive treasure hunt? There will

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be an amazing prize which one person will win if they can solve

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the puzzles and to warm people up we have a challenge which is to

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find prime numbers amongst your environment.

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Stop there. You are an honorary doctor now, Dr John Barrowman. So

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what is a prime number? We all know Do you? I sing and dance. Something

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to do with division. Yeah, fair enough.

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Yeah, good. A prime number is a number which is

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only divisible by itself and one. 17 and a 53.

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I have got 3 because one of my friends have been eaten!

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What about 1753? We have to check. It is time for the results of this

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experiment. How should it work really? Well, people probably their

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guesses are off in either direction. If you take the average, the wisdom

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of the crowds will get us close to the number of jelly beans in the

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jar. I can't believe this. I can't

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believe this. Dave, bring the results in.

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What do The One Show viewers say? You said there were 3653 beans in

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the jar. What is the correct answer of how

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many beans were in the jar? The actual number of beans in the

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jar is 4,510. 857 off.

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There you go for your prime number. That's all for tonight.

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Actor and entertainer John Barrowman joins Matt Baker and Alex Jones on the sofa to talk Torchwood and Tonight's The Night. Plus Dom Littlewood looks at how you can curb your fuel costs and Miriam Margolyes takes a trip back to her childhood home in Oxford.