06/09/2017 The One Show

Welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker

Tonight we are joined by Indian movie star Ali Fazal and -

in her own words - "jobbing actor" Dame Judi Dench!

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE We are delighted to have you with us

this evening. Dame Judi, can you confirm

it is in fact you sat on the sofa? The reason I ask is

because of this headline It'sTracy Ullman doing

an impression of you! You are a fan of her impression? I'm

a huge fan. It gets me in trouble. As I was looking at vegetables a guy

said "watch it." Maybe you haven't seen this. Let us enjoy it together.

Here we go. Oi, I saw that. Do you want me to call the police? I don't

know what you mean. Oh, it's you, isn't it? If you mean, is it Dame

Judi Dench then, yes, it is. How nice to meet There must be you.

Something wrong with the security camera. They can be tempermental. I

loved you in James Bond. Oh, we tried to tell a good story and thank

you. What was I thinking. Dame Judi Dench wouldn't shoplift you're a

national treasure. Exactly! Oh, my word. That's so good. It's so good.

We will talk about your new film, Victoria and Abdul. We saw it this

morning and we loved it. We did. But first we turn to another member

of the Royal Family, Princess Diana. Her funeral, 20 years ago today,

was watched by 31 million people in the UK and an estimated

2 billion people worldwide. But the four people we're

about to meet all have a very special reason to remember

where they were on that day. You'd wave and you'd say good

morning and she would reply with a wave and a smile. The Royal funerals

are written and to a degree we can prepare, but obviously this was

totally unexpected. There was no second text, it was Sir Elton John

and the piano. The mobile went I said, "yes" the voice said "would

you tune the piano for Elton John." It was like any other job, "that's

fine, great." Then I sat down... It hit me like a thunder bolt - I was

worried actually at first because Sir Elton wanted the piano done on

the Saturday morning. Oh, that was the day of the funeral. If anything

unexpected had gone, there was no error of margin. Fortunately he had

a change of mind. I went there on the Friday, I wanted to look good

for Diana. I was walking up that long aisle and I seen the piano in

the distance, sitting there. I was really nervous. I kept going over it

and checking everything. I had to keep my emotions on hold until the

next day, when Elton had played. # Goodbye England's rose, may you

ever grow in our hearts... # Once everything was fine, no

comeback, no phone calls, nothing, then I could relax and grieve like

everybody else. Which I did. That was my day.

Diana used to use Kensington Gardens a lot. She would take the boys

around the park, we saw her push them in the pushchair and take them

up to the playground. She was part of the park community. People were

turning up in their thousands. There were more and more flowers, candles

appearing. We had to make plans for the funeral route coming from

Kensington Palace. The whole of the world was going to see this. I never

stopped. On the Saturday morning, I thought, well, before the funeral

starts, if there are any issues, I'll sit-in my car and I'll be able

to go to any point as quickly as possible. I listened to the funeral

on the radio. And the gun carrage with the coffin. As I did that, I

nodded off, I was exhausted. -- carriage. We rehearsed, we

practiced. We were feeling very nervous, anticipating what was to

come. We went down to Kensington Palace on the morning of the

funeral. We probably had that point three or four hours to prepare. It

was my responsibility to clamp the coffin on to the funeral board. It

was the one that had played on my mind throughout the week and the

rehearsals. As we exited the grounds of Kensington Palace and hit the

crowd for the first time, the wailing and the screaming started.

Physically I felt myself take a sharp intake of breath. Mark and I

marched behind the gun, I on the left hand side and Mark on the right

hand side of the horses. Personally the emotion, I found it quite

difficult. I thought a lot about the Princes behind and what they must be

going through. Once we arrived at the Abb why and the Welsh Guards

took the coffin off, it was a ept mo of big relief. It was a real feeling

of emotion, but also of almost satisfaction that we'd carried her

safely to the Abbey and we were proud of what we did.

A week after the funeral came the time for removing all the tributes

that had been laid. The soft toys were distributed amongst children's

hospitals and all the cards were taken up to Althorp. The flowers

were kept here in Kensington Gardens. We had them composted. We

ended up putting that back on to our flowerbeds. I think she would have

loved that because she did like the gardens and that would have been a

fitting tribute. It's hard to believe that it was 20

years ago. O Isn't it. Can you remember watching the funeral, Judi?

Yes. I remember most of all the day she died and thinking my daughter,

coming out into the garden where I was hanging out some clothes and

telling me the news. I'm sure for everybody it was so shocking. It is

that moment that everybody remembers where they were, don't they? Yes.

You said you were only ten? I remember my mum and my grandmother,

there was lots of noise in the house. The TV was on. We were back

in India. I was woken up. It was the middle of the night. I don't

remember the time. I remember being woken up. It was just tears in my

mother's eyes. I knew something was awfully wrong. Then of course I saw

the TV. We all knew who she was. We will move on to brighter things and

talk about the new film. In 1997 you were playing Victoria back then.

Here we are now, 20 years on, you are playing her again. The film

takes place in her Golden Jubilee year, with this very unexpected

meeting. Really when the film starts she's in a very dark place, it

seems? Yes. She's in a sad, dark place. She's, you know, in her 80s

and, she says in it, all her friends are dropping off all around her. She

has nobody, I think, to be a confidante and to talk to and to

laugh with and share things. Excuse me. It's four years after John Brown

has died. So she's kind of giving up a bit. When you hear all that she

has every day, it's like she has at the moment, so many things to do

every day. She doesn't have the luxury to think, I have two-days up,

put my feet up the chimney, you know! Her luck changes, in a sense?

It certainly does. By the arrival... By the arrival of the very handsome

Abdul. Ali, you play Abdul... Just tell us a bit about him. It's a

story not many people will know before they see the film? Yes, it's

shocking. History conveniently decided to sort of shove it aside.

On both sides. In India nobody seems to know about this. I knew very

little. This is 15 years the last phase of Queen Vic tore ya's life.

This man walked in, this wonderful friendship starting brewing. It

wasn't just friendship, it is was a weird one. There was something,

wasn't there, more than - Intimate, respect. It was a tender and

beautiful relationship that they had. Judi, did you know anything

about this. These diaries, Abdul's diaries were only discovered - They

were destroyed after he was uncertificate moaniously sent

packing after she died. So we know nothing - we knew nothing about it,

you know. They were found, a trunk was found with some letters in it.

So that's how we know that this existeded in anyway. Let us have a

look then at the film. Here is one of the moments that Victoria and

Abdul shared behind closed doors with the household in panic

wandering what was going on. Meh. Meh. Rani. Rani. Rani. Um. Oh. Um.

Um, um, um. He's teaching her Hindu. Is that allowed? Oh, my goodness me!

APPLAUSE You play a great character, Ali, you

really do. Isn't she so good. You picked it up so well. The way you

cut through all that somehow your character and everything that is

going around the pomp and ceremony and everything, somehow you come in

and cut through it all. Which is what Victoria seems to love so much.

How did you get this part, how did it all happen? Oh, God with, it was

like a video game. Lots of levels I had to cross. Right. Stephen Frears

is at the end of it somewhere, he's this haze. I was sitting with a

friend of mine, in India, she said the auditions were happening last

week, you're late are. Why don't you try it out. I remember we recorded

the scene, two scenes, on my phone. Right. I got a caught 30 days later

that Stephen Frears was am coulding to India to go through different

actors, Bollywood actors and everything. There was a series of

things that happened. I came to London, my, God, it was to the point

of becoming delusional about it. I don't know how I would react if I

didn't get the part. Really, really? It all worked out. How much did you

know about David -- Dame Judi before you got to London? Nothing. I would

stand in the mirror like that. There is great chemistry between you off

and on screen that works so well. It's lucky that happens. We met, I

think was it the day before. A couple of days before we had lunch.

Yes, we were quite nervous. There was no need to be nervous or anxious

or anything. You were nervous! I was. My God. Is that nervous! You

were pretty cool about it, I thought. That really comes across in

in the film. A lovely relationship between you. Was there apprehension

in playing her again, Judi, Victoria, obviously we had Mrs Brown

and here you are again We had a lovely time doing that with John

Madden. I think if we hadn't - if this was an episode that I had known

about, it would have been given. Not knowing about it and not many people

knowing about it, it seemed a wonderful chance. I thought Lee's

script was wonderful. I have worked with Stephen five times. It seemed

to take her life on a bichlt I think, I've done the homework about

this person already, so it's just a question of telling this bit of

story. I was very pleased to be asked to do it. You must be pleased

with the outcome? Well... Now I can't do anything about it. There's

no need to worry. It's brilliant. It's fantastic. We will chat more.

Time for a wildlife film now and everything's

connected on this show, because here's a film that wouldn't

be possible without the Victorians love for a small bird

that was originally brought to the UK from Ali's homeland.

Originally from the tropics, these parakeets were first brought over as

pets in the Victorian era. Over time many have escaped and have bred

successfully and now they are a common sight in the south-east of

England. During early spring they are in the mood for love and start

their courtship displays. Fascinating behaviour to watch, but

what really interests me is where these birds will choose to nest.

Normally the use holes entries but recently they have been using them

closer to home. I have seen them coming out of roof spaces so in a

wildlife first I have decided to try to film some parakeet checks in

someone's attic. Finding a wrist space I can get into with my

cameras, a whole other matter. I have teamed up with local bird

enthusiast Nick Mitchell, who has devised a custom-made camera that

should do the job. I like the reinforcement you have read the

cables. That will be important? Yes, to prove the Lee Mack protect

against the big sharp beak of the parakeet. And in the roof of a

pub... He has a quick look and, sure enough, a parakeet is nesting.

Landlady Dora is quite excited about her feathery tenants who have been

squatting here for the last couple of years. Any idea you had parakeets

nesting in Europe? When I came into work there was a load of wood on the

floor checked and I thought someone was hacking at the door to try to

get in -- did you have any idea you had parakeets nesting in your roof?

For the next few hours, they put cables around the pub and then try

to install the camera, but getting the correct angle proves difficult

as the nest is tucked behind one of the beams. He can't get the camera

in close enough. Guys, what does it look like? We do need to be quite a

bit closer. But the adult parakeet is getting agitated. Nick works

quickly to make a couple more adjustments. You can just see a

slight brownish white shape on the edge of the screen there, and that

is an egg, so we are on track for filming baby parakeets. Sadly a

couple of weeks later the nest feels and the chicks hatched don't

survive, but as parakeets can have another batch in the same season,

just over a month later it is second time lucky. A little baby! Dora, who

has been monitoring their activity for us, thinks she notices something

different in the parents' behaviour. Dad has not been coming in so much

and she has been left alone to do it all by yourself. The first time the

mail kept coming in and trying to get involved, and it didn't work.

The baby must have got smothered and died, quite sad. But this time he

stayed away and she has done a good job. The insight into that

relationship between the male and female is fascinating. We wouldn't

know it without the cameras. Yes, nice to see it. Dora wants to share

her excitement with the locals in the pub so everyone can see her new

regulars. Are you ready, Nick? Here we go! The parakeet certainly spark

interest with her punters. Will they be back next year? Dora say they

have been here three years in a row, so, yes, maybe longer. I reckon

these ones will be permanent residents. I think so. Are you

charging them rent? No! LAUGHTER

As the chicks become more settled and bigger, we move the camera and

slowly introduce a light, so we can see them in their full glory. The

light is pretty much bang on the nest and the great thing is you can

see the parakeet checks turning green, so it is the perfect time to

get that light on them. So we have success, I wildlife first, and in

colour! Wild parakeet checks in a nest. These four will stay here for

around a month and a half before they fledge, so for while you can

come down to the pub, have a paint and a parakeet.

STUDIO: What about that! They are cute. And there is an update,

because the littlest one actually fell out of the nest, but everything

is fine- don't worry! It is actually being looked after by Dora in the

pub, and there is the proof, nesting on her head! Quite a typical site,

though, when you were at school, Ali? Yes, and they would lock their

beaks together, like this. I was at a boarding school at the foothills

of the Himalayas, and we would see them around. Of course they would

destroy our fruit! LAUGHTER

And these noisy things. God forbid, humans start training them, and they

are the ones who also make a noise, aren't you?

are the ones who also make a noise, aren't they?

That is another business. We will get Richard on that, don't worry!

And earlier on we saw a very good clip, from Murder on the Orient

Express. We just have the picture here, not the clip. We saw a clip

earlier which we obviously can't play!

LAUGHTER I was just completely still.

LAUGHTER It was a 15 second clip, wasn't it?

But in that 15 seconds was yourself, Johnny Depp, Michelle Pfeiffer...

Ali, you need to get on board. Orient Express 2, you need to be in

it! A fantastic cast. Yes, it was. And it was nice to play someone

fictional? Yes, two dogs and Olivia Goldman.

LAUGHTER Did you embroider any interesting

phrases on any cushions for any of the cast members? I can't do that

any more, can't see to do it! Well, we didn't know that it was a thing,

but you used to make cushions with quite rude phrases on them. I did

make some quite polite ones as well! Did you? We were surprised at some

of the phrases. Quite. I'm not allowed to see them here... You

can't even... Ali, what will you be going back onto after this? We

understand there is a comedy series you work on? I am doing something

with Amazon in India which is very exciting. I have a film coming out

cold Fukrey, part two. The first one was a big hit back in India, so we

just finished filming it, so that is the comedy -- it

is called 's Fukrey and it comes out at the end of the year. And we have

heard that Daniel Craig is reprising his role as Bond. What would you

like to see, Dame Judi, happening to Bond in this one? The ghost of M to

walk in. LAUGHTER

Here is hoping! We would all like to see that. I just look forward to

seeing another Bond film. Well, we spoke about the orient Express. This

isn't that one, but the Midland Line from Redditch to Birmingham.

Dom's been riding it and he might not witness a murder,

but he does find some bad behaviour that's landing some

I am working with officers tasked with stamping out anti-social

behaviour. They will be enforcing little-known bylaws are some of

which date back to Victorian times. I am keen to see the reaction...

These have been around for years but are not enforced by many train

companies, suffer the past three months London Midland has been

running a scheme, issuing warnings to passengers displaying a range of

bad behaviours, and after today they can result in a fine or even

prosecution. Right, what sort of things are you looking for? People

with feet on the seats, smoking, loud music, swearing, being abusive

to anyone else. The 22 bylaws range from going up escalators the wrong

way, not allowing passengers to get off the train before you get on, and

even not having a valid ticket for your pet. In fact anything

considered anti-social. There is one very annoying by law being broken

more than any other. Kenny Britt your feet down, please? Almost half

of all the warnings given it so far have been to people with their feet

up -- can you put your feet down, please. That is actually classed as

anti-social behaviour. If you think someone has their feet on the sick,

do you think finding them is a bit over the top? No, because it causes

discomfort to other passengers because they may have to stand up

for their journey because they feel uncomfortable asking someone to take

it down. Secondly, you don't know what you're putting on the seat. As

for the next guy we come across, his feet on the seats are about to get

him into even more trouble. Brian takes off the train for failing to

purchase a ticket for his journey. Step over here, a second. I just

received a ticket from the officer. Jumping on the train without a

ticket. Do you know why he came during the first place? He spotted

you had your feet on the seats. A lot of people commit anti-social

behaviour do it willingly and a lot of the time they will not have

purchased tickets. But some people become across, they have tickets,

but they just fall into the bracket of doing something silly. Before

getting back on the train Brian spot somebody smoking on the platform.

Just about right in front of the card. -- he did that right in front

of the guard! Can you put that out for me, please? I am seeing how

little people adhere to these bylaws. It is the smoker from the

platform again. Get your feet down off the seats. He has only gone and

caught him with his feet on the seats. I tell you what, you'll be

out of pocket soon. Go on, tell him off. At the moment the scheme is

just on the Cross city south line which runs from Redditch to

Birmingham, but they say it will be expanded across all London Midland

lines by the end of the year, so do the passengers approve? Do you think

it is wrong to put your feet on the seats? Yes. Why did you do it? I

don't see the massive issue. It is not nice for other train passengers,

I suppose, so, yes, all for it. It is just human nature. People like to

be comparable. I feel a bit like a child getting told off, basically.

That is how I felt. Little misdemeanours, compared to other

things on the train, it is a bit daft. It has been a busy few months

for Brian and the team with more than 500 warnings handed out, but

they say they can already see a different customer satisfaction. One

bit of advice to passengers right now about what is happening, in one

sentence. Take you are travelling. It all seems pretty clear to me, if

you don't want a fine, don't do the crime. Is that right, Brian? Yes!

Midland Line they have a series there. -- yes, they have a series

there. Would you... No, you wouldn't, would you, Judi? Certainly

not, dear. You can bet your feet up and Yes because we are finished, out

of time. That's all we have time for -

thank you so much to Victoria Abdul is out

next Friday the 15th. Thanks for your company tonight.

Wonderful stuff. Tomorrow we're joined

by the new Strictly judge Shirley Ballas in her first TV

interview, and Neil Sedaka will be perfoming live -

see you at 7!