09/02/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Angela Scanlon.

Tonight and offer you cannot refuse, a guest who has cornered the market

in investigating the Mafia, and boy, is this an encounter he wishes he

had had! My friend, what can I do feel? I wonder if I could begin by

asking you this, which crime family are you associated with? And never

discuss the family business. Do you think you are lucky to still be

alive? What have I ever done to make you take me so disrespectfully? You

don't offer friendship. You don't even think to call me Godfather.

Please welcome Sir Trevor McDonald! APPLAUSE

Good to see you Sir Trevor. Do you like what we did there? Thank you

for the Marlon Brando bit! You are welcome. You have given up reading

the news now but with everything happening at the moment does part of

you wish... I am not always up at that hour any more! I thought I

would miss it much, much, much more but I did it for a very long time

and then something happened, I was asked to come back and do a bit that

I was not sure about but I did and now No. I want my second loss of

wine! What if you got a chance to sit down with the Donald rather than

the Don? I don't have an interest in it now but if I was doing the news

when he was president, every journalist would want to do it. But

it is not an encounter I think much about these days. Stick with what

you know. I've got bad image in my mind now, it is so perfect. I will

stick to Marlon Brando! Trevor will announce some breaking stories at

the end of the show so we need headlines from you. Your personal

breaking news stories. It has to be big and we need to know who you want

to break the news too. Maybe you have finished roof felting the shed

or finished that scarf! Said us a picture and we will put them in

Trevor's bulletin later. The shortage of green stuff in the shops

is good news if you are a salad dodger like me or bad news if you

are a health nut. With warnings that the shortage might last several more

weeks we put Dan on a budget flight to Spain. With lettuce prices

leaping and courgette stocks cut I want to know what's going on. To get

to the root of the problem I'm going directly to the source. And that

means a trip to Spain. As we have seen on the news our produce problem

comes down to Europe's unusually wet, windy wild winter. So this is

not quite what I was expecting. It is warm, dry, so I think I need to

be to some of the locals to find out what's been happening. After

terrible weather kit Italy and Greece in December, this region

became one of the sole remaining sources of Europe's leafy greens.

But fender floods arrived here as well. One month later, this market

does not seem to be too badly. My Spanish force a bit flat with

stallholders but fortunately I found a couple of expats to fill me in on

what's been going on. There's plenty of local produce coming into the

market is now but it is the large operators like Tesco, Sainsbury's,

Morrisons, Waitrose, some of them owned the fields around this area

and we provide from those feels aided percent of the food that is

going to England in the winter, last winter they had three days of

nonstop torrential rain, thunder and lightning, 70 years since they'd had

anything like it. It was striking lightning pretty awful and the water

was up to hear! Helicopters were parked on the beaches. Meijer we

were one foot in the water throughout the house and we got

struck by lightning because they've got underground car parking and two

people lost their lives. The whole of the area was under water. It's

starting to become clear, this is not just about paying a bit more for

your weekly greens in the shop, what's happened here and across a

large part of Europe has been devastating. I have been told this

entire area should be dry but it's covered in thick sticky mud from the

flood. You can see how far we are from the beach. The devastation is

not restricted to the coast. I've heard about a farm in land that

would normally export these lettuces straight to the UK. The weather has

been so bad here that it has torn up the road. There are 1 million pieces

here on the farm, all the crop we can see has been destroyed. The

problem is that the water is still inside the soil. If we have this

situation we can't work the soil because the tractor will stop. By

putting a tractor through treacle, it's not going to work. Because this

takes a lot of work. And it's nothing. How bad is it for business?

50% after production in this area has been destroyed... McCarthy

production. It is impossible to sell and eat these. It's too damp. And

prices have been affected here as well, lettuce is now costing more

than ?1 in supermarkets. In some areas, the land has been dry so

production can now pick up but with crops lost so much through Europe

demand for those vegetables will be very high. The only area in Europe

where we can supply these lettuces. Could it happen again this year? We

don't know. I hope not, but it could happen. We are still in the winter.

How long before it gets back to normal? Normal situation, in March.

It's OK, you know. This is an eye-opener. Whole fields full of

these. Our prices may have gone up in the shops but livelihoods been

devastated here. That's the thing that, wherever you are in the world,

if you are a farmer with produce like that what can you do? You are

at the mercy of the weather. Absolutely. Greengrocer Chris Bavin

has spent the week unpicking the truth behind the headlines on Food:

Truth or Scare. Chris, we are hearing a lot about this crisis, the

lettuce crisis, the courgettes crisis, although you think this

rationing is a good thing. I don't think it is rationing literally, I

don't think supermarkets are trying to reduce the amount of letters that

the public are buying, I think they are trying to filter out the

businesses that are now going in and buying large amounts of iceberg

lettuce in this case. Because when you see incredibly high wholesale

prices, if you are a cafe owner or a restaurant it's cheaper to go to the

retailer and buy it but they not buying two or three, they are buying

in bulk. So they are trying to restrict that. So they don't feel

that we are going to overdose on ice pick lettuce! You don't need to buy

more than three of those, never have. I think we should make the

distinction, it is a big problem for the growers but for the consumer is

not necessarily a huge issue. And certain products make the most of

this situation with the lettuce. Perhaps we have been forced to be

more adventurous, sales of watercress have risen by 50% in some

cases. What this tells us is to lessen our reliance on one single

product and perhaps be more adventurous and try different

things. Mix it up. Tomatoes are in the news, ketchup, are you a fridge

man or a cupboard man? Traditionally I would have had them in the

cupboard! Serious, isn't it! Traditionally I would have had them

in the cupboard and once they were open, put them in the fridge. Sir

Trevor, are you a ketchup man? No. Occasionally in New York if you have

a hot dog on the street then they don't ask many questions and if you

have hot dog they just put it on. Just wanted to confirm that you have

none in the cupboard or in the fridge. I wait until I get to New

York! Very upmarket, the hot dog and a glass of wine. Living the dream.

Thank you, Chris, good luck with Food: Truth or Scare, honoured

tomorrow morning at quarter past nine. Four weeks we have been

hearing about funding for the health service, now that claims that

schools might face a similar problem. Kevin joins headteachers

taking their argument for more money to the very top. It is 530 on a

soaking wet morning in Horsham, West Sussex. And I am first to get on

board this school coach trip with a difference. Right, we are on our

wait to meet headteachers from West Sussex who believe we are in a

national crisis and they think the coach trip to Westminster is going

to be a make or Drake for their schools. -- make or break. Schools

in West Sussex are currently among those receiving the least amount of

funding from the government. Right here we are. The heads are going to

ask Minister for schools standards Nick Gibb for an emergency cash

injection of ?20 million which they say is needed to avoid a drop in

standards. One of the heads is Jules White of Tonbridge house School. He

says that here, as in many schools funding is not keeping pace with

rising pupil numbers. In the last five years we've risen from 150

pupils to 430. The money they want represents an extra ?200 per pupil

and would mean he could avoid further reductions in the number of

teachers. Most of all we would make sure we avoided the nightmare

scenario of a four-day week, the last thing any school would want.

Attention, everyone, and a half of all pupils in the UK it gives me

great pleasure to say, headteachers, sit up straight and keep the noise

down! Michael Ferry runs Saint Wilfrid 's Catholic School in

Crawley. A big day is this? Massive. The ?200 we are asking for would

mean we could fulfil the potential of our students. Last March the

government announced the new funding formula from which West Sussex will

benefit but the headteachers say it won't come close to covering rising

costs like national insurance and pensions, and school governors in

West Sussex like Cliff Purvis are threatening to strike in support of

them. The new funding formula will come into place in 2018. But until

then we have this huge gap. And it is the children who are at the

schools now that deserve the best that we can give them. Look at those

different artists, how would you take those different things and come

up with different ideas? In this school there's only one art teacher

of the entire school so supply teachers have to fill the gaps, it's

a worry for keen artists like Ryanair, 13. Having an art teacher

more experienced than a supply teacher, if they are given the class

to teach they give you something used to help you work with. Don't

worry, I won't start singing. Although I might still! Every

headteacher on the coach has concerns. We have already got down

to a base level of funding. I can only provide at the moment a

skeleton service. If the schools minister goes around individually

and says, in ten seconds, why should I give you the money, what is your

answer? Children, they are our future. We are down to the bare

bones, with ten efficiencies. It isn't just West Sussex, in London,

in Kingston, headteachers say they are struggling to keep staff, as

things stand in Cheshire East they might face a four day week and in

Devon some teachers are looking at bigger classes and fewer subjects.

This West Park primary teacher has already seen on a minister with more

success in touch with no success, this time she is determined. Is an

odd environment, very deferential and feels a bit like the Ministry

for magic way you must say, with respect, Minister, every time you

speak. If you don't do they send you out of the room? I don't know, we

all said it, we will say at this time. They are given hope because

the National Audit Office said the government should intervene quickly,

should problems arise. At first it looked promising, the meeting was

booked to be one hour, they were in for an

hour and a half. Funnily they emerged. Jules, how did it go? We

are not smiling. We asked the Minister six times and his implicit,

the budget has been set, which eventually we have to take as a No.

We asked the Minister, Nick Gibb, if we could talk to him but he did not

want to meet us. In a statement, his department said that school funding

was at a record level of over ?40 billion this year. So those

headteachers have faced the school minister, had their say, obviously

it did not work at the way they wanted at judging by what I've heard

on the coach and what they've said after the meeting

We have heard that the headteachers have been called back to the

Department for Education for a follow-up meeting, so we will keep

you updated. I can't guarantee Kevin will take them on the bus though!

Sir Trevor, we have got Mafia Women, your upcoming series, and you are

back in the States meeting the wives and daughters. Paint a picture of

growing up in a mafia household. Some of the people who grew up, some

of the daughters and sons, were obviously traumatised. The others,

rather strangely, difficult for us to understand or totally comprehend,

regarded it as part of a current of normal life. I think one of the

reasons for this is because, however steeped people were in the mafia as

a kind of criminal organisation, there was always a very strong

family element. One woman, whose father was called the Grim Reaper

because he killed so many people, even the FBI were not sure how may

people he actually killed, and she said to me, he always home at 530 PM

for dinner. So you go out in the day killing people or you might go out

at night, but you are for dinner. How nice! A lot of these women had

never been filmed all told their story before, so how did you get

them to open up? It isn't all my work, but my colleagues took a long

time. I think it took about two years to convince some of them.

There was another interesting aspect to this, which is that we did a

mafia series on the mend, concentrating just on the mend, and

I think some of these women felt that they wanted to be heard. Mafia

people are not by nature very kind of silent or coy about what they've

done. I think the reason for that is, although we see them as

essentially a criminal enterprise, they regard it as something about

which they are very proud. They talk about the fact that it dates back to

Sicilian families over 100 years ago, and they talk about the fact

that they live rather well. They all have big mansions in the boroughs,

Staten Island. One guy said to me, I walk into restaurants and I don't

have to look to see how much the bottle of champagne costs. They like

living well. I think that applies to some of the families. One woman said

to me, I said, when you go shopping, how much money do you get? And she

showed me... That lifestyle comes at a cost. Let's have a look at the

first episode. What was the moment like when you discovered who Anthony

was? I was shocked. When I typed in, once the image pulled up and I said

mafia, I typed in his name and "mafia", and it was just like

article after article, and I was reading through it and I went down

to the house, I knocked on his door and I just said, you know, can I

talk to you? Well, what is extraordinary is they explain to you

that the men take this blood oath which puts the mafia ahead of their

family. The mind boggles as to why you would want to enter into that

situation. I know, but it's what they do. And the mafia takes

precedence over wives and family. So the wise and family follow on. What

I found odd, especially in the first programme when you meet the

daughters, is that the father was saying, I don't want my daughter to

have anything to do with this, so they are pushing part of their

family away but welcoming other women into it. It seems quite

hypocritical. To them, it isn't hypocritical. They think, this is

the way this fraternity works, this is how we operate, and the operation

is key and everything else is subsidiary. Part of interest for in

doing this is that you only people away sort of layer by layer what

these people are really like and what motivates them. -- you peel

away the layers that it isn't easy. If you get them to talk, hopefully

you get them to explain how they feel about things. I can't wait for

the second one. Mafia Women with Trevor McDonald starts next Thursday

at 9pm on ITV. This week we discovered that, if you want to

complain about being overlooked for a knighthood, it's probably best not

to write an e-mail to your publicist. But could there be a way

to avoid disappointment? His Iwan Thomas OBE. Spot the odd one out,

Dame Judi Dench, Sir Trevor McDonald, me and so Rod Stewart.

They have all been knighted except me. I've just got a MBE, but I

wouldn't mind a knighthood. Sir Iwan . Yeah, got a nice wrinkled I'm

meeting a man who claims that his company improves the odds of getting

to kneel before the Queen. What does one have to do to get a knighthood?

You have to be in it to win it. People can't nominate themselves. If

you know somebody who is worthy of a honour, you have to put them

forward. How can your company help somebody like me? We will save the

nominator time, effort and deprivation. We typically spend 100

to 150 hours on a nomination. If I came to you with ?10,000 and said,

work some magic, what happens if I didn't get a good result? I get a

refund? We would only take somebody on if we felt they had a well above

average chance. What if somebody is really deserving but they don't have

2p to rub together? They can get friends and family to nominate them.

It's free to do it. All you have to do is go to the government website,

download the forms and take care of the process yourself. You didn't

happen to slay a dragon or rescue a damsel in distress to become what

began in childhood, and arduous training regime of swordsmanship and

chivalry until 18, when a religious ceremony turned you into a knight.

It's a knighthood really worth it these days? Do the public still sit

up and notice? I think it's a big deal. If somebody has gone out of

their way to do loads of good things for the community, they should be

respected for that and people should know. If somebody is recognised with

a MBE, OBE or knighthood, is it a good thing? It inspires kids. Are

they worth the fuss? Probably not. Possibly a bit outdated. I think a

lot of people do a lot of good work and don't get rewarded for the

people who get a phenomenal income and get a lot of exposure, be

grateful for what you have got. Don't whinge about. But my

nomination does get past the first hurdle, and how do I get selected by

committee and then the Prime Minister? Myles Pryce was a spin

doctor for Tony Blair and dealt with the Prime Minister's selection of

potential knights. When a nomination lands on the table, is it a done

deal? No, you have to be checked out. There are committees looking at

your background and there can be barriers in your way. It's not

automatic. If you get that far, you are a long way down the road. Do you

ever look at it and think, that would be good PR for us if that

individual was mated? It depends who they are. It is what looks good for

the country though. -- is that individual was knighted. How can I

get promotion? Keep your nose clean and you never know. To be honest, I

think a knighthood is years from me. But in the meantime, I'm going to

practice. James, take me home! Be happy with a MBE! Sir Trevor, is

it right that you thought your knighthood letter was a mistake?

First of all, it had been sent somewhere else and it never reached

me. I had a call saying I hadn't responded and I said, what letter? I

gradually got out of the person from Downing Street that it was about a

honour. I said, what honour? They said it was a knighthood and I was

suddenly interested. But it went the wrong place and I almost never got

it. I never believed... I kept it in my pocket for several days before

saying anything to anybody. I was quite sure another one would come

saying, we've made a terrible mistake and send this to the wrong

person. I was pleased but shocked. Brilliant! I have learned a tonne of

things from being on this show, not least that Sir Trevor may not have

been a sir at all. On top of that, an American present died because he

got a cold, basically, before he went into office at the inauguration

and he didn't wear a coat. And there are a lot of different breeds of

mice. There are. I like the sound of mouses. I bet I can name one that

you don't know. We are going to name mice? Dormouse, African pygmy mouse,

harvest mouse, Mickey Mouse. Meet the sea mouse, Matt. You didn't know

about him. Chocolate mouse? Deep in the coastal inlets of western

Scotland live some weird and wonderful animals. Seven armed

starfish, and enemies and brittle stars in their thousands but, in

amongst these waving arms is perhaps the most strange creature, a bizarre

marine worm known as a sea mouse. Under light, it becomes oddly

iridescent. Believe it or not, the secret behind this fascinating

creature could soon affect us all. They are usually incredibly

difficult to see because they spend most of their time buried in the

mud, deep on the sea bed. So, to get a closer look at the sea mouse's

incredible iridescent colours, scientists have caught some for us

and, with my torch, I can show you their most remarkable feature. Can

you see that iridescent is? The are so beautiful. When white light

shines on a sea mouse's pairs, they reflect a rainbow of colours. It is

something intriguing scientists, such as Oxford University's doctor

Andrew Parker. This is one of those individual hairs. As the structure

is curved, you get different angles presenting itself to the light so

you get different colours from both angles. Rather than a pigment, like

you would get in your clothes, this is totally transparent material. But

what is the use of such vibrant colours to a worm living on the sea

bed? Well, it is thought the iridescent material could be to

frighten off predators by drawing attention to their shop spines. And

the principle behind it could revolutionise the Internet, because

it can transmit light 50% faster than that used today for superfast

communication. The secret lies in its microscopic structure. Magnified

thousands of times, this image reveals layers of hexagonal cells

called photonic crystals. After decades of research, the

telecommunications industry was catching up with nature to create

its own version. A pity we didn't discover this first or we could have

saved a lot of time in physics labs. Since this extraordinary discovery

in sea mice, it's also been seen in other animals, peacocks, magpies and

butterflies, all of which display the same quality. In years to come,

don't be surprised to see the remarkable light reflecting

properties of the sea mice appearing in a variety of products from

high-tech clothing to iridescent pink. If you are going sea mouse

spotting, take a torch. It's important. We asked for your

breaking news story, so Trevor could announce it. Here goes. A trip down

memory lane. You guys are just testing what I can still read this

one is, Stuart assembles summerhouse all by himself. And this one,

Michelle makes a rug out of husband's old T-shirts. And

finally... And finally, Samantha and Mark from Haydock are expecting.

Great news. Lovely news. That reminds me... I am so relieved. And,

Alex and family, we send our love to you. Thank you to Sir Trevor

McDonald. You can now go home and get your glass of wine and your

hotdog. Mafia Women starts next Thursday at 9pm on ITV. I will be

back tomorrow with Richard Osman as we chat to sell reports -- national

project to Sara Cox, and there was music from Elbow. Good night.