Alex Jones and Jeremy Vine are joined by the stars of new superhero film Black Panther. John Simm chats to Alex and Jeremy as he prepares to venture into the world of politics.
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Hello and welcome to The One Show,
with me, Alex Jones,
and my superhero sidekick
for the night - faster
than a speeding autocue,
it's Jeremy Vine!
CHEERING. Thank you.
In true superhero style our guests
have all played their part
in the neverending struggle
between good and evil.
Cue the stirring music.
From the dark side, he played
one of Dr Who's most
The Master himself - it's John Simm
And our heroes tonight,
well they don't get much bigger
than this right now!
From the Marvel blockbuster
everybody is talking
about - Black Panther -
it's Chadwick Boseman
and Danai Gurira!
CHEERING. Great to see you both. I
mean, literally, where are you
getting your addresses from? You
look incredible. Hello to the three
of you. We know that the Premier
Black Panther was last night because
Jeremy here cycled past due in
Yeah. I know this is
not a very dramatic story but I
cycled past Hammersmith Apollo and
thought, it's not quite LA, is it?
Where the big world premiere was.
How was it?
It was fantastic. We had
a really good time. It was a cool
community of people coming together
to celebrate something. We felt very
welcomed. Kudos to you for keeping
it green and cycling.
Yeah, we had to stand out
there and take pictures.
was tough, man!
It is all about
superpowers. And superheroes. What
would your superpower be, John?
Probably teleportation. Is that a
I reckon it is.
tickets. Brilliant. We might return
We've got the professionals in,
but we're throwing the gauntlet
down to you at home.
We want to see your
homemade super heroes.
Grab whatever is lying around
the house - leggings,
goggles, kitchen stuff -
to create a new superhero costume.
Then send us a photo of you striking
a heroic pose, along
with the name of your new hero.
Jeremy, would you demonstrate?
Something like this.
We'll show some of
the funniest later.
I can see you are wondering what you
have got into.
Looking forward to meeting
Sofacushionman or Bagforlifewoman.
As far as superhero poses go,
you'd be hard pushed to find one
as powerful as this next guy's.
With a wingspan of 54 metres, and no
less than 200 tonnes of steel,
he's been standing proud
on the outskirts of Gateshead -
overlooking the A1 -
for nearly 20 years.
And he's become quite
the local celebrity.
I'm Antony Gormley. I made the Angel
of the North. 20 years ago. It is
hard to believe.
Designed and built
over the past four years, the Angel
Of The North took less than a day to
When the angel was made,
there was 27% unemployment here. For
a council to realise how important
it was for the spirit of a community
to make something that says, we are
here! We can move you. We believe in
ourselves and we are going to show
the world that we believe in our
future, even if you have written us
off. It was a very moving things.
Going to engineering shops all
around the area saying, how do we
make this? Can you make this? Can we
find all those people that knew how
to bend steel. It is made of steel
plates. This is the work of more
than 100 people.
My name is Graham. I worked on the
Angel Of The North. That is me
fitting the ribs to the back section
of the angel.
My name is Mark. It is
the first time I have stood
underneath the angel since she was
erected. It is a nice thing to do to
look up will stop A lot of people
come to see us knowing it is our
work and it is a quite proud
feeling. It was a new concept the
first time. Nobody was 100% sure how
we were going to put the wings on.
The size of a jumbo jet, it has not
been without controversy. Some have
questioned whether the £800,000 that
is being spent could not have been
People are much more
frightened of ideas than reality.
From the moment this arrived people
changed their minds. Or is changed
their mind. That was absolutely
incredible, the day of putting it
up. Everybody had been told to stay
away. People did not pay a blind bit
of notice. I breakfast there must've
been a couple of hundred people. I
lunchtime a couple of thousand. And
it was just incredible -- incredibly
It was designed to be a
tribute to the work in the
north-east, the shipbuilding
industry and the industry. A
reflection of their abilities.
feel a lot of pride, the fact I
worked on it.
I think 130 to 150
years she is supposed to stand. It
is nice to know that something I did
will be going to another generation.
I remember standing at the bottom of
the drive and seeing the enormity of
it and thinking it was just magical
and beautiful. Gorgeous.
always lovely to come home too. The
Angel Of The North is truly ours.
And so many people are said to me,
the angel tells me that I am home.
Hard to do that, that is the best it
can do. Turner, empty, windy
post-industrial site into a place
that people feel is theirs.
There we are. Beautiful. Happy 20th
birthday. John, tell us about your
thriller, Collateral, which is on on
Yes, for four weeks. It is
written by Sir David Hare. It is a
political thriller with some very
now, very state of the nation. I
play a Labour MP in the Shadow
Cabinet. It starts off with the
murder of a pizza delivery guy.
Carey Mulligan is the detective in
charge of the case. He is murdered
delivering a pizza to my former
wife, played by Billie Piper. He is
not the guy who was supposed to
deliver it. So there is a whole
strand that goes off in loads of
different angles. Yeah, it goes for
politics, religion, immigration, the
stuff that David Hare is really
Everything that is
relevant today. Let's see the moment
when you hear about the murder for
the first time.
I want say it again. It was me who
ordered the Peter.
Did Jia de shot?
Of course I heard it.
You were the
last person to speak to him?
You don't seem very upset?
I thought I had a bottle of wine. I
must have drunkard. Is that a new
search? -- I must have drunk it.
called me to come over here.
if that was a drag. I'm sure you are
Too busy for the mother of your
I've only seen the first
episode so far and I have a feeling
that your character is hiding
something. At the beginning he is
kind of the pillar of the community.
Butter wouldn't melt, really. But
underneath, is there something else
No. He is not The Master!
Really! He is like a Jeremy Corbyn
tight Labour MP. He is a good guy,
he fights for what he believes in.
His hands are tied because he get
into a lot of trouble with the
leader of the Labour Party because
he says the wrong things, he's
outspoken. He is essentially a good
He is married to her.
good. -- not for long.
It is your
first politician to play, isn't it?
When I saw him, I thought, buddy. He
has to be in jail by the end.
terrible. It is my first politician.
It is very like state of play. A
political thriller. I was the
journalist in that. I am the MP in
this. I need to play the police
Is it true that you
did not even read the script before
taking the part?
No. I was in LA. I
met the director. He directed life
on Mars, the defenders... She told
me about the script, Jessica Jones.
She said it was so good, you have to
do it. She was considering it. When
I was doing Doctor Who, she said we
would like to offer you the role of
the MP. I said, yes. And then I read
it and it was really good. A good
Somewhere in it is your
daughter for a second.
She is in
about three scenes. She plays mine
and Billy's daughter.
I said, just pretend I'm
your daddy. It was a surreal
experience. She was very good. It is
her birthday today. She is 11.
house is full of friends.
full of 11-year-old girls.
forward to seeing it. Four episodes,
one each week.
At the end of a week where we've
marked the centenary of women
winning the right to vote,
we're going back to school now.
Not just any school -
one that produced one of the UK's
most famous suffragettes.
Does her legacy still
inspire the young women
learning there today?
It was a moment in the suffragette
movement that changed everything. In
1913, Emily Davison School walking
out putting a scarf on the King's
horse in the Derby. She died for her
cause. She went to school here in
Kensington in 1885. 100 years on
from the moment when women over 30
were allowed to vote, Philippa,
Emily's first cousin three
generations down, is heading to the
school to meet the pupils.
know what they suffragette was?
Suffragette was someone who took
direct action to try to get women to
be able to vote.
So girls, what does
it feel like to know that you are at
the school that Emily Davison School
I feel it is really
inspirational but she broke rules
and the stereotypes. That makes me
feel I can do whatever I want when I
The school was founded by
the girl state -- the girls Day
School trust. It was setup in the
1900 to help girls like Emily get an
This is where Emily was
registered. 1885. Davison Wilding
Was their any sign back then
that she was going to become this
was always surprised she did better
in exams than expected. That says
something about her character.
can say with all confidence she was
earnest, diligent and conscientious
in any work she undertook. That is
lovely. What difference has it made
to your life having Emily as one of
My father always
insisted that my mother was the head
of the house. He always brought us
up, the girls can do physics and
chemistry, the boys can do cooking
and art if they want. That attitude
is a very strong influence on my
What would the girls
here like to see in the next 100
I'm great -- very grateful
that in Britain girls and women get
the vote. In some countries it is
different. In 100 years I would want
that to change.
The young people's
attitudes towards gender equality is
We have to embrace
that and move that forward.
You mentioned your 11-year-old
daughter. I also have an 11-year-old
daughter. I just wonder what they
take from the suffragette in the
Equality, equal pay,
everything. There is a big sea
change at the moment. That was the
beginning of a long time ago. It's
getting bigger now.
Have you been
talking to your daughter about it
I haven't seen much of
her because I have been at work and
she has been at school. My wife has.
She has been talking to her about
it. Yeah. It is a special week.
them to understand it was a period
when women did not have the vote. A
Danai, exploring equality
themes is nothing new to you. You
wrote it clips, the first all-female
Black cast. And now you have Love
Our Girls, your foundation.
Talk to us about the work you do?
Love Our Girls is like an awareness
hub. I created it in 2016 when it
clips went to Broadway. I really
wanted to signify the activism that
needs to happen around women and
girls. We look at those 100 years
ago, there is still so much
Love Our Girls was something I
created because I was born on
Valentine's Day. I have a confused
relationship with that holiday. I
wanted to read a dedicated it to
loving girls and women and if we
focus on loving them, can we really
continue to give them an equal
rights in so many sectors of
society? It is an awareness hub.
Better much astounding work being
done but a lot of times people don't
know. They don't know who to
support, they don't know how to
become activists themselves. Every
month on the 14th we put out a
newsletter and tried to disseminate
as much information as possible for
people to start to connect and
understand, and we showed them how
to plug in.
We'll talk more about
Black Panther later on but Chadwick,
it's a remarkable film. It's very
different because you go in the
cinema and its overwhelmingly a
Yes, I guess that is
because I'm used to it now, having
been on this film for over a year.
With this family of people for over
a year. We carried part of that
cars. -- that cast. I don't go to
work every day saying, wow, I'm
around all these black people!
LAUGHTER Did you think you're part
of a cultural change or not?
an extraordinary moment, and...
Maybe it shouldn't be extraordinary.
That's the point I'm making. I think
we have to see what happens as far
as black film goes. Every decade
there is a period of time where
there are film-makers making films
and we are excited about it and it
becomes a trend. We have some
amazing stuff happening on TV and
film. We had Selma. All of the
things that have happened over the
past few years, I hesitate to call
it a renaissance but we don't know
what's going to happen in the
future. We need ten more years to
look back and see if the industry
It's a stunning film to
watch, it must have been stunning to
work on as well.
One thing that certainly
unites us is music.
In the words of the great
philosopher Confucius -
"Music produces a kind of pleasure
which human nature
cannot do without".
Or as Harry Styles once said - "Can
you imagine a world with no music?
It would suck."
Here's Jim Moir - or Vic Reeves,
as he's better known -
looking at the art
of a great record.
The record. In bent it in the 1880s,
followed soon after by the invention
of the record cover. -- invented in
the 1880s. Record sleeves are there
practically to stop the record from
being scratched, like this. But the
real reason for record covers is to
create iconic art. Fairport
Convention, what we did on our
holidays. I would sit in my bedroom
looking at this for hours and hours
because there's always something new
that you can find in this. Forget
the Mona Lisa, stack them up in your
bedroom or your lounge. You can
flick through it and look at your
own fabulous bit of personal
artwork. Every day! In celebration
of Alba Mart, I've come to a shop in
Deal, Kent, to look at record covers
for the locals. His first?
first-ever British punk album. I'd
seen them play 516 times.
tracks are we going to go for.
are going to do New Rose.
But there's a twist. I have to
complete the sketches before the
chosen track ends.
It's only two
minutes and 43 seconds.
I need to
get a move on!
The first time I saw
them play was in Luton in 1976. It
was supposed to be 50p but I only
had 35p. The landlady let me end.
About 35 years later I met her at a
gig and I gave her the other 15p!
gig and I gave her the other 15p!
that your bag? Are you a copper?!
Two minutes 39, punk rock.
# Can anybody find me
# Somebody to love? #
The next album is A Day At The Races
by Queen. We have chosen Somebody to
My friend worked at a record
shop and I managed to get Freddie
Mercury's phone number. We went to
my friends house to find a number to
speak to Freddie. I said my name is
Ralph. He said where have you got my
number from? I said I just want you
to know that we think you're
fabulous and we really love the new
single Somebody to Love. He said
that's very nice and I appreciate it
but don't give this number to anyone
The song is
bittersweet because as we know
Freddie died from aids and my school
friend also died of aids. I perform
it live and it's always with a
I remember them,
which is the important thing.
# Need somebody to love... CHEERING
A fabulous four minutes 57 seconds.
Our last album is The Holy Bible by
We met in Charing Cross
library and she was looking for The
Holy Bible. I said hold on, I'll
tape it for you. I've bought three
copies since so it's OK!
There are policemen in the area!
What was the upshot of this?
22 years later we are still
We had the The Manics
playing at our wedding. This lovely
album of death, destruction and
misery brought us together.
3.55, these album covers clearly
mean a lot of people. It's been fun
but I'm all sketched out!
They were brilliant and amazing he
did them all in four minutes.
Incredible, all as the songs were
We are going to talk a bit
more about Black Panther. Your
character's dot was killed in the
If you see Civil War you
know he was killed. We pick up where
we left off essentially. He has to
take on the throne, so there is the
weight of the guilt of allowing his
father to be killed and returning
and having to answer for that. The
country is in disarray because we
don't have a king. It's the weight
of taking on the legacy of my father
and living up to that level of
I wondered if you felt
in some way it was fate that you
played Black Panther? I read you
saying there were certain things
that happened where you thought I
wonder if I'll do that one day.
little signs stop with the comic
book is one of those things as a
film-maker and storyteller and
actor, you say I would love to do
that one day.
I think on my travels
the first thing is that I was in
Peru and I saw a cross and there's a
puma which is a sort of Panther.
There are various animals that go
along with that cross and it made me
think of Wakanda because you have
this lost city of Michu Pichu. I
wanted the Black Panther movie and
what I wanted it to be like. I was
in Australia shooting another movie
and a security guard on the set
basically saw me one day sparring
with another security guard. He came
and the next day he put a black
panther comic book in my trailer. He
said I think you would be great if
you played this one day. Here we
Here we are chatting
about it. So you play Okoya who is
an incredible strong female
character. There are loads of very
strong female characters in this
film. Your daughter would love it
for that reason. She is incredibly
She's the head of the Armed
Forces and I think it's a wonderful
concept, a woman Army that protects
the throne. And consequently secures
the nation with him. I work
alongside him. He has a right-hand
woman which is a cool leadership
choice. She's very, very loyal to
him and to the nation. She deeply
loves Wakanda, and her role of
course involves protecting this
nation's legacy and what her for
mothers and forefathers setup.
got a clip which is where you debate
what to do your nemesis Claw with
the CIA agent Martin Freeman.
talk to him first...
After your questioning will take you
back to Wakanda.
He's in my custody
now, he's not going anywhere. I'm
doing you a favour by even letting
you be in here.
Does she speak English?
It's funny in places, isn't it?
Their resume there.
definitely a lot of humour in the
film. We got to explore these
African characters, right down to
the language which was really
exciting to do.
The films got it
all. It's out on the 13th of
February. That his next Tuesday. You
sent in some pictures of you dressed
This is Colin the man!
And she made
this outfit herself. Her superpowers
are making ice cream and her super
name is Agent Rainbow!
That's it for tonight -
thanks to our guests John,
Danai and Chadwick.
You can see Collateral
on Monday night at 9pm
on BBC Two, and Black Panther
is in cinemas on Tuesday.
And thanks of course to Jeremy -
always a pleasure!
Matt's back on Monday and we'll
be joined by Radio 1's
Clara Amfo and Billy Ocean.
When the going gets tough,
the tough get going.
Have a lovely weekend.
Alex Jones and Jeremy Vine are joined in the studio by the stars of Marvel's new superhero film Black Panther. Plus John Simm chats to Alex and Jeremy as he prepares to venture into the world of politics.