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Alex Jones and Jeremy Vine are joined by the stars of new superhero film Black Panther. John Simm chats to Alex and Jeremy as he prepares to venture into the world of politics.


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Hello and welcome to The One Show,

with me, Alex Jones,

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and my superhero sidekick

for the night - faster

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than a speeding autocue,

it's Jeremy Vine!

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CHEERING. Thank you.

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In true superhero style our guests

have all played their part

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in the neverending struggle

between good and evil.

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Cue the stirring music.

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From the dark side, he played

one of Dr Who's most

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fearsome arch-enemies.

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The Master himself - it's John Simm

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And our heroes tonight,

well they don't get much bigger

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than this right now!

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From the Marvel blockbuster

everybody is talking

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about - Black Panther -

it's Chadwick Boseman

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and Danai Gurira!

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CHEERING. Great to see you both. I

mean, literally, where are you

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getting your addresses from? You

look incredible. Hello to the three

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of you. We know that the Premier

Black Panther was last night because

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Jeremy here cycled past due in

Hammersmith.

Yeah. I know this is

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not a very dramatic story but I

cycled past Hammersmith Apollo and

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thought, it's not quite LA, is it?

Where the big world premiere was.

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How was it?

It was fantastic. We had

a really good time. It was a cool

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community of people coming together

to celebrate something. We felt very

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welcomed. Kudos to you for keeping

it green and cycling.

Must've been

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freezing?

Yeah, we had to stand out

there and take pictures.

So hard!

It

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was tough, man!

It is all about

superpowers. And superheroes. What

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would your superpower be, John?

Probably teleportation. Is that a

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superpower?

I reckon it is.

No

tickets. Brilliant. We might return

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to this.

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We've got the professionals in,

but we're throwing the gauntlet

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down to you at home.

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We want to see your

homemade super heroes.

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Grab whatever is lying around

the house - leggings,

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goggles, kitchen stuff -

to create a new superhero costume.

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My gosh!

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Then send us a photo of you striking

a heroic pose, along

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with the name of your new hero.

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Jeremy, would you demonstrate?

Something like this.

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We'll show some of

the funniest later.

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I can see you are wondering what you

have got into.

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Looking forward to meeting

Sofacushionman or Bagforlifewoman.

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Absolutely.

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As far as superhero poses go,

you'd be hard pushed to find one

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as powerful as this next guy's.

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With a wingspan of 54 metres, and no

less than 200 tonnes of steel,

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he's been standing proud

on the outskirts of Gateshead -

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overlooking the A1 -

for nearly 20 years.

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And he's become quite

the local celebrity.

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I'm Antony Gormley. I made the Angel

of the North. 20 years ago. It is

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hard to believe.

Designed and built

over the past four years, the Angel

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Of The North took less than a day to

put up.

When the angel was made,

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there was 27% unemployment here. For

a council to realise how important

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it was for the spirit of a community

to make something that says, we are

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here! We can move you. We believe in

ourselves and we are going to show

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the world that we believe in our

future, even if you have written us

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off. It was a very moving things.

Going to engineering shops all

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around the area saying, how do we

make this? Can you make this? Can we

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find all those people that knew how

to bend steel. It is made of steel

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plates. This is the work of more

than 100 people.

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My name is Graham. I worked on the

Angel Of The North. That is me

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fitting the ribs to the back section

of the angel.

My name is Mark. It is

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the first time I have stood

underneath the angel since she was

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erected. It is a nice thing to do to

look up will stop A lot of people

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come to see us knowing it is our

work and it is a quite proud

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feeling. It was a new concept the

first time. Nobody was 100% sure how

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we were going to put the wings on.

The size of a jumbo jet, it has not

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been without controversy. Some have

questioned whether the £800,000 that

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is being spent could not have been

better used.

People are much more

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frightened of ideas than reality.

From the moment this arrived people

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changed their minds. Or is changed

their mind. That was absolutely

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incredible, the day of putting it

up. Everybody had been told to stay

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away. People did not pay a blind bit

of notice. I breakfast there must've

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been a couple of hundred people. I

lunchtime a couple of thousand. And

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it was just incredible -- incredibly

moving.

It was designed to be a

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tribute to the work in the

north-east, the shipbuilding

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industry and the industry. A

reflection of their abilities.

I

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feel a lot of pride, the fact I

worked on it.

I think 130 to 150

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years she is supposed to stand. It

is nice to know that something I did

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will be going to another generation.

I remember standing at the bottom of

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the drive and seeing the enormity of

it and thinking it was just magical

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and beautiful. Gorgeous.

She is

always lovely to come home too. The

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Angel Of The North is truly ours.

And so many people are said to me,

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the angel tells me that I am home.

Hard to do that, that is the best it

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can do. Turner, empty, windy

post-industrial site into a place

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that people feel is theirs.

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There we are. Beautiful. Happy 20th

birthday. John, tell us about your

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thriller, Collateral, which is on on

Monday?

Yes, for four weeks. It is

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written by Sir David Hare. It is a

political thriller with some very

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now, very state of the nation. I

play a Labour MP in the Shadow

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Cabinet. It starts off with the

murder of a pizza delivery guy.

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Carey Mulligan is the detective in

charge of the case. He is murdered

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delivering a pizza to my former

wife, played by Billie Piper. He is

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not the guy who was supposed to

deliver it. So there is a whole

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strand that goes off in loads of

different angles. Yeah, it goes for

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politics, religion, immigration, the

stuff that David Hare is really

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brilliant ad.

Everything that is

relevant today. Let's see the moment

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when you hear about the murder for

the first time.

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I want say it again. It was me who

ordered the Peter.

Did Jia de shot?

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Of course I heard it.

You were the

last person to speak to him?

I

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suppose.

You don't seem very upset?

I thought I had a bottle of wine. I

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must have drunkard. Is that a new

search? -- I must have drunk it.

You

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called me to come over here.

Sorry

if that was a drag. I'm sure you are

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busy.

Don't worry.

Too busy for the mother of your

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child.

Karen...

I've only seen the first

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episode so far and I have a feeling

that your character is hiding

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something. At the beginning he is

kind of the pillar of the community.

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Butter wouldn't melt, really. But

underneath, is there something else

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going on?

No. He is not The Master!

Really! He is like a Jeremy Corbyn

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tight Labour MP. He is a good guy,

he fights for what he believes in.

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His hands are tied because he get

into a lot of trouble with the

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leader of the Labour Party because

he says the wrong things, he's

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outspoken. He is essentially a good

guy.

He is married to her.

Not for

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good. -- not for long.

It is your

first politician to play, isn't it?

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When I saw him, I thought, buddy. He

has to be in jail by the end.

That's

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terrible. It is my first politician.

It is very like state of play. A

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political thriller. I was the

journalist in that. I am the MP in

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this. I need to play the police

officer next.

Is it true that you

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did not even read the script before

taking the part?

No. I was in LA. I

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met the director. He directed life

on Mars, the defenders... She told

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me about the script, Jessica Jones.

She said it was so good, you have to

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do it. She was considering it. When

I was doing Doctor Who, she said we

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would like to offer you the role of

the MP. I said, yes. And then I read

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it and it was really good. A good

thriller.

Somewhere in it is your

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daughter for a second.

She is in

about three scenes. She plays mine

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and Billy's daughter.

Acting

required?

I said, just pretend I'm

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your daddy. It was a surreal

experience. She was very good. It is

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her birthday today. She is 11.

The

house is full of friends.

The houses

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full of 11-year-old girls.

We look

forward to seeing it. Four episodes,

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one each week.

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At the end of a week where we've

marked the centenary of women

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winning the right to vote,

we're going back to school now.

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Not just any school -

one that produced one of the UK's

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most famous suffragettes.

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Does her legacy still

inspire the young women

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learning there today?

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Here's Carrie.

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It was a moment in the suffragette

movement that changed everything. In

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1913, Emily Davison School walking

out putting a scarf on the King's

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horse in the Derby. She died for her

cause. She went to school here in

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Kensington in 1885. 100 years on

from the moment when women over 30

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were allowed to vote, Philippa,

Emily's first cousin three

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generations down, is heading to the

school to meet the pupils.

Do you

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know what they suffragette was?

Suffragette was someone who took

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direct action to try to get women to

be able to vote.

So girls, what does

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it feel like to know that you are at

the school that Emily Davison School

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went to?

I feel it is really

inspirational but she broke rules

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and the stereotypes. That makes me

feel I can do whatever I want when I

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grow up.

The school was founded by

the girl state -- the girls Day

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School trust. It was setup in the

1900 to help girls like Emily get an

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education.

This is where Emily was

registered. 1885. Davison Wilding

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Emily.

Was their any sign back then

that she was going to become this

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amazing campaigner?

The headmistress

was always surprised she did better

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in exams than expected. That says

something about her character.

One

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can say with all confidence she was

earnest, diligent and conscientious

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in any work she undertook. That is

lovely. What difference has it made

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to your life having Emily as one of

your ancestors?

My father always

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insisted that my mother was the head

of the house. He always brought us

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up, the girls can do physics and

chemistry, the boys can do cooking

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and art if they want. That attitude

is a very strong influence on my

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upbringing.

What would the girls

here like to see in the next 100

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years?

I'm great -- very grateful

that in Britain girls and women get

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the vote. In some countries it is

different. In 100 years I would want

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that to change.

The young people's

attitudes towards gender equality is

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really positive.

We have to embrace

that and move that forward.

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You mentioned your 11-year-old

daughter. I also have an 11-year-old

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daughter. I just wonder what they

take from the suffragette in the

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21st century?

Equality, equal pay,

everything. There is a big sea

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change at the moment. That was the

beginning of a long time ago. It's

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getting bigger now.

Have you been

talking to your daughter about it

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this week?

I haven't seen much of

her because I have been at work and

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she has been at school. My wife has.

She has been talking to her about

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it. Yeah. It is a special week.

For

them to understand it was a period

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when women did not have the vote. A

century ago.

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Yeah.

Danai, exploring equality

themes is nothing new to you. You

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wrote it clips, the first all-female

Black cast. And now you have Love

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Our Girls, your foundation.

Talk to us about the work you do?

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Love Our Girls is like an awareness

hub. I created it in 2016 when it

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clips went to Broadway. I really

wanted to signify the activism that

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needs to happen around women and

girls. We look at those 100 years

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ago, there is still so much

inequality.

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Love Our Girls was something I

created because I was born on

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Valentine's Day. I have a confused

relationship with that holiday. I

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wanted to read a dedicated it to

loving girls and women and if we

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focus on loving them, can we really

continue to give them an equal

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rights in so many sectors of

society? It is an awareness hub.

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Better much astounding work being

done but a lot of times people don't

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know. They don't know who to

support, they don't know how to

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become activists themselves. Every

month on the 14th we put out a

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newsletter and tried to disseminate

as much information as possible for

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people to start to connect and

understand, and we showed them how

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to plug in.

We'll talk more about

Black Panther later on but Chadwick,

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it's a remarkable film. It's very

different because you go in the

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cinema and its overwhelmingly a

black cast.

Yes, I guess that is

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very striking!

LAUGHTER

It's weird

because I'm used to it now, having

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been on this film for over a year.

With this family of people for over

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a year. We carried part of that

cars. -- that cast. I don't go to

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work every day saying, wow, I'm

around all these black people!

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LAUGHTER Did you think you're part

of a cultural change or not?

This is

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an extraordinary moment, and...

Maybe it shouldn't be extraordinary.

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That's the point I'm making. I think

we have to see what happens as far

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as black film goes. Every decade

there is a period of time where

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there are film-makers making films

and we are excited about it and it

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becomes a trend. We have some

amazing stuff happening on TV and

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film.

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film. We had Selma. All of the

things that have happened over the

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past few years, I hesitate to call

it a renaissance but we don't know

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what's going to happen in the

future. We need ten more years to

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look back and see if the industry

did change.

It's a stunning film to

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watch, it must have been stunning to

work on as well.

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One thing that certainly

unites us is music.

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In the words of the great

philosopher Confucius -

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"Music produces a kind of pleasure

which human nature

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cannot do without".

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Or as Harry Styles once said - "Can

you imagine a world with no music?

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It would suck."

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Well said.

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Here's Jim Moir - or Vic Reeves,

as he's better known -

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looking at the art

of a great record.

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The record. In bent it in the 1880s,

followed soon after by the invention

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of the record cover. -- invented in

the 1880s. Record sleeves are there

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practically to stop the record from

being scratched, like this. But the

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real reason for record covers is to

create iconic art. Fairport

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Convention, what we did on our

holidays. I would sit in my bedroom

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looking at this for hours and hours

because there's always something new

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that you can find in this. Forget

the Mona Lisa, stack them up in your

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bedroom or your lounge. You can

flick through it and look at your

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own fabulous bit of personal

artwork. Every day! In celebration

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of Alba Mart, I've come to a shop in

Deal, Kent, to look at record covers

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for the locals. His first?

The

first-ever British punk album. I'd

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seen them play 516 times.

Which

tracks are we going to go for.

We

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are going to do New Rose.

Played a

record! MUSIC

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But there's a twist. I have to

complete the sketches before the

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chosen track ends.

It's only two

minutes and 43 seconds.

I need to

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get a move on!

The first time I saw

them play was in Luton in 1976. It

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was supposed to be 50p but I only

had 35p. The landlady let me end.

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About 35 years later I met her at a

gig and I gave her the other 15p!

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gig and I gave her the other 15p!

Is

that your bag? Are you a copper?!

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Not exactly!

CHEERING

Two minutes 39, punk rock.

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# Can anybody find me

# Somebody to love? #

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The next

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The next album is A Day At The Races

by Queen. We have chosen Somebody to

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Love.

My friend worked at a record

shop and I managed to get Freddie

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Mercury's phone number. We went to

my friends house to find a number to

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speak to Freddie. I said my name is

Ralph. He said where have you got my

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number from? I said I just want you

to know that we think you're

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fabulous and we really love the new

single Somebody to Love. He said

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that's very nice and I appreciate it

but don't give this number to anyone

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else!

LAUGHTER

The song is

bittersweet because as we know

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Freddie died from aids and my school

friend also died of aids. I perform

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it live and it's always with a

bittersweet feeling.

And you

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remember them.

I remember them,

which is the important thing.

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# Need somebody to love... CHEERING

A fabulous four minutes 57 seconds.

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Our last album is The Holy Bible by

The Manics.

We met in Charing Cross

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library and she was looking for The

Holy Bible. I said hold on, I'll

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tape it for you. I've bought three

copies since so it's OK!

LAUGHTER

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There are policemen in the area!

I

know!

What was the upshot of this?

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22 years later we are still

together.

We had the The Manics

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playing at our wedding. This lovely

album of death, destruction and

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misery brought us together.

APPLAUSE

3.55, these album covers clearly

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mean a lot of people. It's been fun

but I'm all sketched out!

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They were brilliant and amazing he

did them all in four minutes.

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Incredible, all as the songs were

playing.

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playing.

We are going to talk a bit

more about Black Panther. Your

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character's dot was killed in the

Civil War.

If you see Civil War you

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know he was killed. We pick up where

we left off essentially. He has to

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take on the throne, so there is the

weight of the guilt of allowing his

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father to be killed and returning

and having to answer for that. The

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country is in disarray because we

don't have a king. It's the weight

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of taking on the legacy of my father

and living up to that level of

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leadership.

I wondered if you felt

in some way it was fate that you

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played Black Panther? I read you

saying there were certain things

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that happened where you thought I

wonder if I'll do that one day.

Yes,

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little signs stop with the comic

book is one of those things as a

0:24:290:24:35

film-maker and storyteller and

actor, you say I would love to do

0:24:350:24:38

that one day.

I think on my travels

the first thing is that I was in

0:24:380:24:46

Peru and I saw a cross and there's a

puma which is a sort of Panther.

0:24:460:24:53

There are various animals that go

along with that cross and it made me

0:24:530:25:04

think of Wakanda because you have

this lost city of Michu Pichu. I

0:25:040:25:14

wanted the Black Panther movie and

what I wanted it to be like. I was

0:25:140:25:18

in Australia shooting another movie

and a security guard on the set

0:25:180:25:21

basically saw me one day sparring

with another security guard. He came

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and the next day he put a black

panther comic book in my trailer. He

0:25:280:25:35

said I think you would be great if

you played this one day. Here we

0:25:350:25:39

are!

LAUGHTER

Here we are chatting

about it. So you play Okoya who is

0:25:390:25:52

an incredible strong female

character. There are loads of very

0:25:520:25:55

strong female characters in this

film. Your daughter would love it

0:25:550:25:58

for that reason. She is incredibly

loyal.

She's the head of the Armed

0:25:580:26:09

Forces and I think it's a wonderful

concept, a woman Army that protects

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the throne. And consequently secures

the nation with him. I work

0:26:150:26:21

alongside him. He has a right-hand

woman which is a cool leadership

0:26:210:26:26

choice.

0:26:260:26:31

choice. She's very, very loyal to

him and to the nation. She deeply

0:26:320:26:39

loves Wakanda, and her role of

course involves protecting this

0:26:390:26:44

nation's legacy and what her for

mothers and forefathers setup.

We've

0:26:440:26:49

got a clip which is where you debate

what to do your nemesis Claw with

0:26:490:26:55

the CIA agent Martin Freeman.

I'll

talk to him first...

0:26:550:27:04

After your questioning will take you

back to Wakanda.

He's in my custody

0:27:170:27:23

now, he's not going anywhere. I'm

doing you a favour by even letting

0:27:230:27:27

you be in here.

0:27:270:27:34

Does she speak English?

When she

wants to.

APPLAUSE

0:27:350:27:45

It's funny in places, isn't it?

Their resume there.

There's

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definitely a lot of humour in the

film. We got to explore these

0:27:510:27:56

African characters, right down to

the language which was really

0:27:560:27:58

exciting to do.

The films got it

all. It's out on the 13th of

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February. That his next Tuesday. You

sent in some pictures of you dressed

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as superheroes.

0:28:150:28:23

This is Colin the man!

And she made

this outfit herself. Her superpowers

0:28:230:28:30

are making ice cream and her super

name is Agent Rainbow!

0:28:300:28:41

That's it for tonight -

thanks to our guests John,

0:28:410:28:43

Danai and Chadwick.

0:28:430:28:44

You can see Collateral

on Monday night at 9pm

0:28:440:28:47

on BBC Two, and Black Panther

is in cinemas on Tuesday.

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And thanks of course to Jeremy -

always a pleasure!

0:28:490:28:52

Matt's back on Monday and we'll

be joined by Radio 1's

0:28:520:28:54

Clara Amfo and Billy Ocean.

0:28:540:28:56

When the going gets tough,

the tough get going.

0:28:560:28:58

Have a lovely weekend.

0:28:580:29:00

Alex Jones and Jeremy Vine are joined in the studio by the stars of Marvel's new superhero film Black Panther. Plus John Simm chats to Alex and Jeremy as he prepares to venture into the world of politics.